Tuesday, September 22, 2009
Tuesday Sept. 22, '09 The More Things Change, The More They Stay The Same
That title is from a rather cynical French saying. Although, mind you, I'm not complaining when it comes to Gancho. I love the endless rounds of comical crises, fast resolutions and hysterically funny bits by these comedic actors. We did have something decidedly new tonight. Someone actually got killed.... and oily Oscar was injured (not badly enough, alas) but still....it didn't seem quite real. The comic book character of this telenovela manages to gloss over some pretty horrendous stuff. So with no further ado, let's get down to tonight's carnage.
Of course an alternate title could have been: HELL HATH NO FURY LIKE A WOMAN SCORNED...AND WE'VE GOT AT LEAST A COUPLE OF 'EM HERE TONIGHT
Our rehash was the painful public humiliation of Gaby as she forces a reluctant Sal to tell her all the dirt on Fernando in front of the whole office. Connie fakes compassion and even excuses herself to "go home" because she's so undone by Gaby's pain. If she's upset by anything, it's actually Beto's clueless announcement that he and Monita are now engaged. On her way out, she manages to whack him in the shoulder. The only genuine emotion we've ever seen her express is in her reactions to Beto. Clearly they are meant for each other.
But are we wrong about Fernando at least? He's calling Gaby. It's all a mistake!.... Nope. Just as Sal predicted. Start the party without him. He's heading for the border. Sal found out about him and he's scramming. With the money, natch. But he'll "send it back". Love ya'. Kiss, kiss.
Riiiiiight.
Well, Mauricio's out some money too and he assures Gaby he'll pursue Fernando till the ends of the earth. This brings on a deluge of kisses which startles Mau, worries Sal and Gaby...heck, there's pleasure to be found even in the worst of times, no? I like the way this gal operates. Ximena, oblivious to social signals, is filming all this, claiming Gaby can watch it later to lift her spirits. Gaby doesn't need a film, she needs a weapon, and finds one in Mau's letter opener which she stabs fiercely into the desk a number of times. Woman Scorned no. 1. Armed and Dangerous.
Woman Scorned no. 2 is our feisty little Monita. Mau has the gall to sneer at her engagement, saying that she made an "eleccion a tu altura" (that makes me so mad I'm not even going to translate it! grrrrrr) She fends off Beto, tries to hide in the coffee room but her two gal pals Estrella and Paula barge in and basically ask WTF?
Okay, Woman Scorned No. 3. Constanza is getting it from both sides. The memory of her forced coupling with Jerry and some dissing from Ximena, as in....Oooh did you see Mau's face when Beto announced his engagement!? And YOUR face, Connie. You were just turning" verde de coraje" (lit. green with rage...we'd say purple with rage, I suppose). Our anti-heroine vows that the "maldita gorilla" (Moni) won't end up with either Mau or Beto.
Back at the office, Gaby is trying to make life miserable for the staff. Sal tries to intervene with some tila tea but she's having none of it. Triple vodka maybe. But not ALL men are bad, he whimpers. No, only 80 per cent are scoundrels, she concedes. The rest are swindlers, lechers, wife-beaters, bums....well, you get the picture. Gaby's a little down on menfolk right now.
And speaking of....now really! I didn't see this coming. Fernando is smooching his cash when there's a knock at the door of his hotel room. The police? Nope. It's oily Oscar, his cohort, come to collect his share of the booty. Suave gentleman that he is, though, he suggests they have a drink first. And while they do, they chuckle over the low I.Q's of Jeronimo and Ximena, and the easy pickins' that Gaby turned out to be. Swine swine swine!!!
Now we're back in the coffee room. Mau has cornered Monita asking the very reasonable question: Why do we hurt each other when we both know we can't live without each other!? The lovers' quarrel continues right where they left off before. I'm gonna come to your wedding and watch you marry the mummy while still wanting me. And I'll be in the front row at yours, watching you marry Beto while still in love with ME! So there!
And then our sexy macho boss grabs her and plants some cruel, possessive, lip-grinding kisses on her before stomping out. I've had a few kisses like that and they feel awful on the receiving end. Maybe for guys they really work. Dunno. Time for a study group?
Now here's a subject worthy of study. Constanzia's revenge on Jerry. He's all confident, sliding his hand up to her knee, her thigh and she's pretending to love it. Let's put on the tape, she purrs, and relive the fabulous moment. Do it, do it! She even throws in a couple of low growls. Gotta say, the actress played this scene to perfection. They're all snuggled up, gazing into the camera and aha! Jerry finally realizes that all his blackmail material has been erased by Gaby's unfortunate going-away party footage. Connie wastes no time, letting him know that both he and Oscar make her sick and neither of them will ever get another cent from Mau or any more nookie from her. We know it won't last but it's a great moment. Never thought I'd be cheering Connie on.
Jerry wastes no time getting starting on a little ponytail abuse of Ximena, vowing to shake her eyes out and lamenting the fact that their parents didn't give her away to the circus or donate her body to science. What a great family. Ximena manages to stop the mayhem by coming up with a plan to expose Connie for the harpy she is. But Xime will be the brains of course. Our choice exactly.
Meanwhile, Gaby has organized the barrio gals to wreak vengeance on Fernando. He's been located at the hotel, room no. 343 and she wants no men involved. This is "una cosa de mujeres". The gals are on board, although Paula has a little hissy fit when Moni chooses Estrella to scout out the spa, while Paula is left to check the bar and Gaby , presumably, the rooms. I mean, Paula has the cop boyfriend has she not!? Why is she always chopped liver?
The film editors dilute the tension of the Fernando chase with a little side trip to Mau's house. He's cuddling Dani and the kids are still trying to talk him out of marrying Constanza. But no matter what, they love him and he's the best dad in the world. Awwww.....now let's get back to the fun stuff.
Oscar appears in the hotel lobby and Gaby wants to know what he's doing there. "¿Qué haces aqui?" Mientras tanto, Moni and Estrella are heading into the spa. Estrella is momentarily distracted by a guy wrapped in a robe but Moni keeps her on task. They investigate the sauna. Fernando appears, bars the door shut, turns the temperature up to killer levels and leaves. (And to think I once found him attractive!) The ads come on. Are we waiting with bated breath? Nah, we know the girls will get out of it, but I am wondering what slick lie Oscar will spout.
Well, he's a slick one. He pretends he learned of Fernando's whereabouts and came to pounce on the scoundrel. Gaby's all aglow, thinking how Oscar tried to warn her of Fernando's dubious credentials and now he's here to rescue her honor and her money. Oh Gaby...still clueless, but so endearing.
Back at the sauna (how often do you get to say that?) Monita and Estrella are succumbing to heat prostration. Moni still has enough energy to call for help though. And in the barrio, mother hen Nieves is confronting Connie, aka Michaela, who's come to scout out Beto. Nieves is doing her best to run her off but Beto appears and has other ideas. In fact he has a little mouse in his pocket he wants to show her and he and Con rush off to Moni's room (again!? qué grosera!) to explore this further.
Drama coming up. Mau rescues Moni and a policeman drags out Estrella. Tender cupping of Moni's chin as Mau-Mau tries to revive her. Down in the lobby, Paula spots Fernando. Oscar, taking on the role of hero, punches Fer. But suddenly, Fernando pulls out a gun, a big one! and shoots Oscar in the shoulder (lower, lower damnit!). The police pump several bullets right into Fernando's chest and he falls to the ground. The scene ends with a dramatic overhead shot of his body sprawled on the hotel lobby floor. Rest in peace Retrete Pullido.
Lest we become too dismayed by this turn of events, we immediately return to the Connie/Beto lecherous tussle. In between heaves and gropes, they're each complaining about the others' wedding plans. Finally Beto says, do you want to just remain with this desire or get down to it. Remain with the desire, snaps Connie. And leave me with this pain!? Okaaaaaay, let's get down to it!
And they do.
But will it be coitus interruptus? Because Monita, Mau , Estrella and Paula are now right outside. Estrella's telling Mau for the 81st time what a prince he is to have rescued them. Moni's getting cranky. Estrella wisely vanishes. And Paula, noting Mau's goofy lovelorn look, discreetly fades away as well. Mau wants to talk. Moni wants to fight. She flounces off. He follows, wailing Monita! Our hot to trot couple hears him and hops off the bed. What now? Of course we break for ads.
When we come back, there's more shilly-shallying outside the door. Maul wants to have a heart to heart in Moni's room. No way. His only place is in church...with his mummy fiancée. He argues that everytime he sees Monita, something happens in his body and he can't help it. (Not the most romantic statement, in my opinion, but honest...that's for sure) Nieves shows up and throws a damper on things, plus scares the bejesus out of Beto who's more afraid of being found out by his mom than he is of Mauricio or Monita. Interesting. The best part of this scene was Connie getting irritated with him and Beto responding by saying.... You need to treat me with tenderness, "me dañas, me dañas!" (I love these comic refrains).
Nieves shoos Mauricio away, drags Moni off to her house (Mom knows darned well her criatura is up to no good in Moni's room) and Beto lauds his mother by telling Connie her "suegra" is a genius....but while they only have a couple of minutes, they can pull off a "rapidin" or a qweekie.... and Connie seems to agree.
Nieves meanwhile is giving Moni the third-degree. What are you two doing with each other? Don't give me that guff about saunas and rescues (no me chupo el dedo). I see the way you look at each other and eat each other up with your eyes. Tough if you don't believe me, Monita retorts and does another flounce. This time they meet up with Beto, belt unhooked and fly open. (Connie and he have already tenderly kissed good-bye, her head covered in a towel for anonymity.)
Monita wants to check out Beto's nether regions for signs of betrayal, particularly since he reeks of expensive perfume! Fortunately, at this point the scene shifts. We're at the hospital, with Gaby tenderly hovering over Oscar and proclaiming that no one has ever "given his life for her before". In passing, she also acknowledges that Sal has been very protective of her. Was the money recovered? Well, only half. Clearly he had an accomplice. But who? At this pivotal moment, Jerry enters and throws himself on the stricken Oscar (not stricken enuff, sez I), shakes him and slaps him and wails "don't die!". That Jerry....always knows the right thing to do.
More ads and then we come back to a next morning- decidedly glum Mau, stirring his coffee and trying to explain to Teresa why he's marrying the mummy. Because I know her (not true) and she doesn't lie (also not true). Well, you know ME, ventures Teresa, and I don't lie...but you're not marrying me! Why not Moni? Because she's marrying the Fantasma Vengador. They love each other deeply, sighs Mauricio, and I just want to die, he adds. Oh my. If he weren't so D.U.M.B. I might feel bad for him right now.
And later, at the office, Gaby wants to send Monita (who's tardy for work again) to the car show with some kind of document for Mau. At first she refuses. Beto's the messenger. Send him. Sal doesn't trust Beto. Okay, she'll do it. She's looking fetching in some little green shrug shoulder sweater and Mau's looking fetching as well. Heck, even Rolu and Connie look good. And the cars....wow. Okay, everybody's lovely but Rolu's already drunk and ready to hit on Monita. He presses a drink on her. She turns and accidentally hurls it at Connie. Con's enraged and throws a glass of red wine (stains! stains!) back at Monita. They're on each other like feral cats, shrieking, pulling hair, strangling each other and poor Mau's risking his life trying to separate them. And that's where we end for the evening.
Previews:
Mau's at the hospital to visit Oscar and overhears Jerry gloating about his sex romp with Connie.
Beto and Estrella are holding a newspaper that says Moni's mother is back and looking for her.
Mau also seems to learn about Connie and Beto's hookup.
And Connie comes to Nieves for help.
Goodness....I can hardly wait for tomorrow night, can you!?
Vocabulary:
picones = little jabs of jealousy
pelos de muñeca = Beto's nickname for Mau. lit. doll's hair
trancar la puerta = bar the door (what Fernando did to Estrella and Monita in the sauna)
apañarlo =fix him up, rig him up. but in tonight's episode Monita said it and it seemed to me "nab him"
hecho una eleccion a tu altura = made a choice appropriate to your (social) level. Mauricio, sneering at Monita about her engagement to Beto.
lacayo =lackey Jerry, fantasizing about his hookup with princess Constanzia
sentir de la patada = feeling rotten , Ximena crowing about Connie's reaction to Mau's horror at Monita's engagement.
verde de coraje= green with rage, red or purple with anger in our lingo
Dicho of the Day:
Del dicho al hecho hay mucho trecho. It's a long way from the word to the deed. (And it's going to be a long way before Mauricio and Monita actually marry...but we know they will...don't we?)
Of course an alternate title could have been: HELL HATH NO FURY LIKE A WOMAN SCORNED...AND WE'VE GOT AT LEAST A COUPLE OF 'EM HERE TONIGHT
Our rehash was the painful public humiliation of Gaby as she forces a reluctant Sal to tell her all the dirt on Fernando in front of the whole office. Connie fakes compassion and even excuses herself to "go home" because she's so undone by Gaby's pain. If she's upset by anything, it's actually Beto's clueless announcement that he and Monita are now engaged. On her way out, she manages to whack him in the shoulder. The only genuine emotion we've ever seen her express is in her reactions to Beto. Clearly they are meant for each other.
But are we wrong about Fernando at least? He's calling Gaby. It's all a mistake!.... Nope. Just as Sal predicted. Start the party without him. He's heading for the border. Sal found out about him and he's scramming. With the money, natch. But he'll "send it back". Love ya'. Kiss, kiss.
Riiiiiight.
Well, Mauricio's out some money too and he assures Gaby he'll pursue Fernando till the ends of the earth. This brings on a deluge of kisses which startles Mau, worries Sal and Gaby...heck, there's pleasure to be found even in the worst of times, no? I like the way this gal operates. Ximena, oblivious to social signals, is filming all this, claiming Gaby can watch it later to lift her spirits. Gaby doesn't need a film, she needs a weapon, and finds one in Mau's letter opener which she stabs fiercely into the desk a number of times. Woman Scorned no. 1. Armed and Dangerous.
Woman Scorned no. 2 is our feisty little Monita. Mau has the gall to sneer at her engagement, saying that she made an "eleccion a tu altura" (that makes me so mad I'm not even going to translate it! grrrrrr) She fends off Beto, tries to hide in the coffee room but her two gal pals Estrella and Paula barge in and basically ask WTF?
Okay, Woman Scorned No. 3. Constanza is getting it from both sides. The memory of her forced coupling with Jerry and some dissing from Ximena, as in....Oooh did you see Mau's face when Beto announced his engagement!? And YOUR face, Connie. You were just turning" verde de coraje" (lit. green with rage...we'd say purple with rage, I suppose). Our anti-heroine vows that the "maldita gorilla" (Moni) won't end up with either Mau or Beto.
Back at the office, Gaby is trying to make life miserable for the staff. Sal tries to intervene with some tila tea but she's having none of it. Triple vodka maybe. But not ALL men are bad, he whimpers. No, only 80 per cent are scoundrels, she concedes. The rest are swindlers, lechers, wife-beaters, bums....well, you get the picture. Gaby's a little down on menfolk right now.
And speaking of....now really! I didn't see this coming. Fernando is smooching his cash when there's a knock at the door of his hotel room. The police? Nope. It's oily Oscar, his cohort, come to collect his share of the booty. Suave gentleman that he is, though, he suggests they have a drink first. And while they do, they chuckle over the low I.Q's of Jeronimo and Ximena, and the easy pickins' that Gaby turned out to be. Swine swine swine!!!
Now we're back in the coffee room. Mau has cornered Monita asking the very reasonable question: Why do we hurt each other when we both know we can't live without each other!? The lovers' quarrel continues right where they left off before. I'm gonna come to your wedding and watch you marry the mummy while still wanting me. And I'll be in the front row at yours, watching you marry Beto while still in love with ME! So there!
And then our sexy macho boss grabs her and plants some cruel, possessive, lip-grinding kisses on her before stomping out. I've had a few kisses like that and they feel awful on the receiving end. Maybe for guys they really work. Dunno. Time for a study group?
Now here's a subject worthy of study. Constanzia's revenge on Jerry. He's all confident, sliding his hand up to her knee, her thigh and she's pretending to love it. Let's put on the tape, she purrs, and relive the fabulous moment. Do it, do it! She even throws in a couple of low growls. Gotta say, the actress played this scene to perfection. They're all snuggled up, gazing into the camera and aha! Jerry finally realizes that all his blackmail material has been erased by Gaby's unfortunate going-away party footage. Connie wastes no time, letting him know that both he and Oscar make her sick and neither of them will ever get another cent from Mau or any more nookie from her. We know it won't last but it's a great moment. Never thought I'd be cheering Connie on.
Jerry wastes no time getting starting on a little ponytail abuse of Ximena, vowing to shake her eyes out and lamenting the fact that their parents didn't give her away to the circus or donate her body to science. What a great family. Ximena manages to stop the mayhem by coming up with a plan to expose Connie for the harpy she is. But Xime will be the brains of course. Our choice exactly.
Meanwhile, Gaby has organized the barrio gals to wreak vengeance on Fernando. He's been located at the hotel, room no. 343 and she wants no men involved. This is "una cosa de mujeres". The gals are on board, although Paula has a little hissy fit when Moni chooses Estrella to scout out the spa, while Paula is left to check the bar and Gaby , presumably, the rooms. I mean, Paula has the cop boyfriend has she not!? Why is she always chopped liver?
The film editors dilute the tension of the Fernando chase with a little side trip to Mau's house. He's cuddling Dani and the kids are still trying to talk him out of marrying Constanza. But no matter what, they love him and he's the best dad in the world. Awwww.....now let's get back to the fun stuff.
Oscar appears in the hotel lobby and Gaby wants to know what he's doing there. "¿Qué haces aqui?" Mientras tanto, Moni and Estrella are heading into the spa. Estrella is momentarily distracted by a guy wrapped in a robe but Moni keeps her on task. They investigate the sauna. Fernando appears, bars the door shut, turns the temperature up to killer levels and leaves. (And to think I once found him attractive!) The ads come on. Are we waiting with bated breath? Nah, we know the girls will get out of it, but I am wondering what slick lie Oscar will spout.
Well, he's a slick one. He pretends he learned of Fernando's whereabouts and came to pounce on the scoundrel. Gaby's all aglow, thinking how Oscar tried to warn her of Fernando's dubious credentials and now he's here to rescue her honor and her money. Oh Gaby...still clueless, but so endearing.
Back at the sauna (how often do you get to say that?) Monita and Estrella are succumbing to heat prostration. Moni still has enough energy to call for help though. And in the barrio, mother hen Nieves is confronting Connie, aka Michaela, who's come to scout out Beto. Nieves is doing her best to run her off but Beto appears and has other ideas. In fact he has a little mouse in his pocket he wants to show her and he and Con rush off to Moni's room (again!? qué grosera!) to explore this further.
Drama coming up. Mau rescues Moni and a policeman drags out Estrella. Tender cupping of Moni's chin as Mau-Mau tries to revive her. Down in the lobby, Paula spots Fernando. Oscar, taking on the role of hero, punches Fer. But suddenly, Fernando pulls out a gun, a big one! and shoots Oscar in the shoulder (lower, lower damnit!). The police pump several bullets right into Fernando's chest and he falls to the ground. The scene ends with a dramatic overhead shot of his body sprawled on the hotel lobby floor. Rest in peace Retrete Pullido.
Lest we become too dismayed by this turn of events, we immediately return to the Connie/Beto lecherous tussle. In between heaves and gropes, they're each complaining about the others' wedding plans. Finally Beto says, do you want to just remain with this desire or get down to it. Remain with the desire, snaps Connie. And leave me with this pain!? Okaaaaaay, let's get down to it!
And they do.
But will it be coitus interruptus? Because Monita, Mau , Estrella and Paula are now right outside. Estrella's telling Mau for the 81st time what a prince he is to have rescued them. Moni's getting cranky. Estrella wisely vanishes. And Paula, noting Mau's goofy lovelorn look, discreetly fades away as well. Mau wants to talk. Moni wants to fight. She flounces off. He follows, wailing Monita! Our hot to trot couple hears him and hops off the bed. What now? Of course we break for ads.
When we come back, there's more shilly-shallying outside the door. Maul wants to have a heart to heart in Moni's room. No way. His only place is in church...with his mummy fiancée. He argues that everytime he sees Monita, something happens in his body and he can't help it. (Not the most romantic statement, in my opinion, but honest...that's for sure) Nieves shows up and throws a damper on things, plus scares the bejesus out of Beto who's more afraid of being found out by his mom than he is of Mauricio or Monita. Interesting. The best part of this scene was Connie getting irritated with him and Beto responding by saying.... You need to treat me with tenderness, "me dañas, me dañas!" (I love these comic refrains).
Nieves shoos Mauricio away, drags Moni off to her house (Mom knows darned well her criatura is up to no good in Moni's room) and Beto lauds his mother by telling Connie her "suegra" is a genius....but while they only have a couple of minutes, they can pull off a "rapidin" or a qweekie.... and Connie seems to agree.
Nieves meanwhile is giving Moni the third-degree. What are you two doing with each other? Don't give me that guff about saunas and rescues (no me chupo el dedo). I see the way you look at each other and eat each other up with your eyes. Tough if you don't believe me, Monita retorts and does another flounce. This time they meet up with Beto, belt unhooked and fly open. (Connie and he have already tenderly kissed good-bye, her head covered in a towel for anonymity.)
Monita wants to check out Beto's nether regions for signs of betrayal, particularly since he reeks of expensive perfume! Fortunately, at this point the scene shifts. We're at the hospital, with Gaby tenderly hovering over Oscar and proclaiming that no one has ever "given his life for her before". In passing, she also acknowledges that Sal has been very protective of her. Was the money recovered? Well, only half. Clearly he had an accomplice. But who? At this pivotal moment, Jerry enters and throws himself on the stricken Oscar (not stricken enuff, sez I), shakes him and slaps him and wails "don't die!". That Jerry....always knows the right thing to do.
More ads and then we come back to a next morning- decidedly glum Mau, stirring his coffee and trying to explain to Teresa why he's marrying the mummy. Because I know her (not true) and she doesn't lie (also not true). Well, you know ME, ventures Teresa, and I don't lie...but you're not marrying me! Why not Moni? Because she's marrying the Fantasma Vengador. They love each other deeply, sighs Mauricio, and I just want to die, he adds. Oh my. If he weren't so D.U.M.B. I might feel bad for him right now.
And later, at the office, Gaby wants to send Monita (who's tardy for work again) to the car show with some kind of document for Mau. At first she refuses. Beto's the messenger. Send him. Sal doesn't trust Beto. Okay, she'll do it. She's looking fetching in some little green shrug shoulder sweater and Mau's looking fetching as well. Heck, even Rolu and Connie look good. And the cars....wow. Okay, everybody's lovely but Rolu's already drunk and ready to hit on Monita. He presses a drink on her. She turns and accidentally hurls it at Connie. Con's enraged and throws a glass of red wine (stains! stains!) back at Monita. They're on each other like feral cats, shrieking, pulling hair, strangling each other and poor Mau's risking his life trying to separate them. And that's where we end for the evening.
Previews:
Mau's at the hospital to visit Oscar and overhears Jerry gloating about his sex romp with Connie.
Beto and Estrella are holding a newspaper that says Moni's mother is back and looking for her.
Mau also seems to learn about Connie and Beto's hookup.
And Connie comes to Nieves for help.
Goodness....I can hardly wait for tomorrow night, can you!?
Vocabulary:
picones = little jabs of jealousy
pelos de muñeca = Beto's nickname for Mau. lit. doll's hair
trancar la puerta = bar the door (what Fernando did to Estrella and Monita in the sauna)
apañarlo =fix him up, rig him up. but in tonight's episode Monita said it and it seemed to me "nab him"
hecho una eleccion a tu altura = made a choice appropriate to your (social) level. Mauricio, sneering at Monita about her engagement to Beto.
lacayo =lackey Jerry, fantasizing about his hookup with princess Constanzia
sentir de la patada = feeling rotten , Ximena crowing about Connie's reaction to Mau's horror at Monita's engagement.
verde de coraje= green with rage, red or purple with anger in our lingo
Dicho of the Day:
Del dicho al hecho hay mucho trecho. It's a long way from the word to the deed. (And it's going to be a long way before Mauricio and Monita actually marry...but we know they will...don't we?)
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Judy, wow,I was discussing with Variopinta the book the two of you were discussing earlier. Turns out that Adriana had me read it a couple of years or so ago. It's absolutely great. Anyway, I found that you've already posted this fabulous recap. As usual, you nailed it.
As you were, I was greatly troubled by his snide statement to Moni about her choice of spouses. Couple that with his refusal to tutear with Beto, well...what a pompous snot. I still hope that they get together, but he needs some serious humbling.
Once again I thought of Lucy and Ethyl as Moni and Estrella ventured into the spa.
Ximena, once more was, well, Ximena. She is always at the top of her game.
I know that we say this over and over, but this show just gets better and better. It's a pity that more Caray Caray folks aren't enjoying this with us. I feel like at times we are witnessing something truly innovative an unique. Much the sameway tha I felt with Alborada and Ramona.
Thanks for putting a tasty cap on a pleasant evening. It's raining...por fin.
Carlos
As you were, I was greatly troubled by his snide statement to Moni about her choice of spouses. Couple that with his refusal to tutear with Beto, well...what a pompous snot. I still hope that they get together, but he needs some serious humbling.
Once again I thought of Lucy and Ethyl as Moni and Estrella ventured into the spa.
Ximena, once more was, well, Ximena. She is always at the top of her game.
I know that we say this over and over, but this show just gets better and better. It's a pity that more Caray Caray folks aren't enjoying this with us. I feel like at times we are witnessing something truly innovative an unique. Much the sameway tha I felt with Alborada and Ramona.
Thanks for putting a tasty cap on a pleasant evening. It's raining...por fin.
Carlos
Too bad Fernando turned out to be such a bad guy. What a waste of packaging. Also I'm kind of bummed he got offed; I like the actor and would have liked to see more of Mr. Tidy Bowl. Oscar may have slipped through this time but there is at least one big fat anvil hanging over his head.
Carlos, I truly believe quite a few folks are watching this show and reading the recaps, it's just that many don't comment. Also, I agree with you that Mau can be quite the putz.
I very much liked Coni's handling of Jeronimo. She pretty much put to rest the theory that he physically forced himself on her. Last night she reluctantly agreed to give it up because he was blackmailing her. She could have said no and been truthful, but instead she chose the other path. Tonight she didn't have to use herself as a bargaining chip and she rebuffed Jero.
Judy, thanks so much for the superb recap. Your title is quite perfect for this show, and I think we will have lots more changing and staying the same before we're done. Your recap was clever and funny, your vocab words were fantastic, and your dicho is one of my favorites. Gracias amiga!!
Carlos, I truly believe quite a few folks are watching this show and reading the recaps, it's just that many don't comment. Also, I agree with you that Mau can be quite the putz.
I very much liked Coni's handling of Jeronimo. She pretty much put to rest the theory that he physically forced himself on her. Last night she reluctantly agreed to give it up because he was blackmailing her. She could have said no and been truthful, but instead she chose the other path. Tonight she didn't have to use herself as a bargaining chip and she rebuffed Jero.
Judy, thanks so much for the superb recap. Your title is quite perfect for this show, and I think we will have lots more changing and staying the same before we're done. Your recap was clever and funny, your vocab words were fantastic, and your dicho is one of my favorites. Gracias amiga!!
Nothing better than coffee and breakfast with my two buddies Carlos and Sylvia.
Carlos...glad to now your tutor had you read that book. I'm going to have to pace myself or otherwise no housework or cooking (or yardwork) is going to get done! It's a big tome but very readable. POMPOUS SNOT. Perfect. Your Lucy and Ethyl call also. And it's raining here too!
Carlos...glad to now your tutor had you read that book. I'm going to have to pace myself or otherwise no housework or cooking (or yardwork) is going to get done! It's a big tome but very readable. POMPOUS SNOT. Perfect. Your Lucy and Ethyl call also. And it's raining here too!
Sylvia...your "waste of packaging" quip deserves a separate posting. Indeed! I loved him while he was playing a charmer, although the look on his face as he bolted the girls in was truly cold and evil. And hey...who knows?..maybe he's not really dead and will come back to haunt the nefarious Oscar and company.
Connie's tease of Jeronimo is one of my favorite comedic scenes. It was so well played. She knew she was going to come out on top this time and she reeled him in to perfection. Admired and liked her style....for once.
By the way...in one of the closing scenes, Beto's little "Goodbye Towel" as Connie left the barrio just cracked me up, but somehow I couldn't work it into the paragraph.
So many delicious moments in this one.
Connie's tease of Jeronimo is one of my favorite comedic scenes. It was so well played. She knew she was going to come out on top this time and she reeled him in to perfection. Admired and liked her style....for once.
By the way...in one of the closing scenes, Beto's little "Goodbye Towel" as Connie left the barrio just cracked me up, but somehow I couldn't work it into the paragraph.
So many delicious moments in this one.
Aha...found your book discussion with Variopinta, Carlos. Yes, my hardcover library copy is dated...written in the mid-eighties....so politically it's not up to snuff, but cultural attitudes don't change that fast (seems to take CENTURIES, no?) so I'm finding it fascinating reading and it really helps me understand the themes and sub-themes of these telenovelas a lot better. Also has some great translations of typical Mexican expressions.
For anybody on this line who's interested it's DISTANT NEIHBORS....A Portrait of the Mexicans by Alan Riding.
One of the more interesting discussions was on the conflictive view of women. Wives, girlfriends seen as treacherous betrayers...harking back to the Spanish conquistadors taking of the indigenlous women. But reverence of the Holy Mother and one's actual mother.
Upshot, unhappy marriages, with neglected wives, unfaithful husbands, and moms who hopelessly spoil their sons and are revered by them. (My friends from Italy tell me there's a lot of this in their culture as well.)
For anybody on this line who's interested it's DISTANT NEIHBORS....A Portrait of the Mexicans by Alan Riding.
One of the more interesting discussions was on the conflictive view of women. Wives, girlfriends seen as treacherous betrayers...harking back to the Spanish conquistadors taking of the indigenlous women. But reverence of the Holy Mother and one's actual mother.
Upshot, unhappy marriages, with neglected wives, unfaithful husbands, and moms who hopelessly spoil their sons and are revered by them. (My friends from Italy tell me there's a lot of this in their culture as well.)
I also loved the sad little "adios toalla" quip by Beto. That scene struck me because Beto and Coni had such a heartfelt goodbye. They are getting more and more obvious in their relationship. They must want to get caught, right? Otherwise why do they keep meeting in Monita's room?
I just checked my library's site and they have the book you mention. I'll have to check it out.
I just checked my library's site and they have the book you mention. I'll have to check it out.
I think the death of Freddie the Freeloader last night may ultimately bode ill for Jero. Even though this is a light-hearted romp, bad guys are held to account for their crimes. If he wants to survive to the end of this show, Jero has some serious atonement to see to.
Carlos
Carlos
Yep, and as one given to endless "examens de conscience" I'm all for atonement scenes. Always good practice to do one's own inventory and pare out the little rotten spots. And Jeronino, you've got mucho!
Great recap Judy! I was laughing all the way through with your scorned women.
It was fun seeing Jeronimo so exited only to discover that he didn't have anything on Coni anymore.
I also didn't like Mauricio's comment to Moni. It sounded like something that usually would come from one of the bad guys. Actually, it sounded like something Constanza would say so Mau, I'm glad you also found someone "a tu altura".
I like the friendship between Gabriela and Paula, their interactions always make me smile.
Judy It sounds like you are reading an interesting book, I'm intrigued with the content.
Jarocha
It was fun seeing Jeronimo so exited only to discover that he didn't have anything on Coni anymore.
I also didn't like Mauricio's comment to Moni. It sounded like something that usually would come from one of the bad guys. Actually, it sounded like something Constanza would say so Mau, I'm glad you also found someone "a tu altura".
I like the friendship between Gabriela and Paula, their interactions always make me smile.
Judy It sounds like you are reading an interesting book, I'm intrigued with the content.
Jarocha
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: Wednesday, September 23, 2009 at 10:38:00 AM EDT
: Wednesday, September 23, 2009 at 10:38:00 AM EDT
Well, we'd love it if you could come across a copy and give us your take on it, Jarocha. As I noted, Variopinta on the MEPS line recommended it and so did Carlos' Spanish tutor.
The author was born in Brasil, educated in England and since 1971 was a correspondent in Latin America, based chiefly in Mexico City. I think he's currently living in Rio de Janeiro (one of my favorite cities) but he spent quite some time living and working in Mexico.
The author was born in Brasil, educated in England and since 1971 was a correspondent in Latin America, based chiefly in Mexico City. I think he's currently living in Rio de Janeiro (one of my favorite cities) but he spent quite some time living and working in Mexico.
Thanks for the terrific recap, Judy. In answer to your question from yesterday (about Las Vegas), my room does not have mirrors on the ceiling (thank God!). Last night we saw David Copperfield's magic show, and I can think of a few characters in our novela I like him to make disappear!
Oscar, for one. It's so frustrating how he gets away with so much. Mauricio still thinks he's a loyal attorney, even after 5 or 6 evil plans (mostly foiled, fortunately). And he still has Gabi snowed, too.
Another little scene I enjoyed was when Connie was talking to Nieves. Nieves accused her of maybe taking a liking to some of the earthier types (like Beto). All the while, Connie's entranced expressions showed how true this is, but of course, when Nieves directly questioned her, she denied it all.
Oscar, for one. It's so frustrating how he gets away with so much. Mauricio still thinks he's a loyal attorney, even after 5 or 6 evil plans (mostly foiled, fortunately). And he still has Gabi snowed, too.
Another little scene I enjoyed was when Connie was talking to Nieves. Nieves accused her of maybe taking a liking to some of the earthier types (like Beto). All the while, Connie's entranced expressions showed how true this is, but of course, when Nieves directly questioned her, she denied it all.
Thanks for the terrific recap, Judy. In answer to your question from yesterday (about Las Vegas), my room does not have mirrors on the ceiling (thank God!). Last night we saw David Copperfield's magic show, and I can think of a few characters in our novela I like him to make disappear!
Oscar, for one. It's so frustrating how he gets away with so much. Mauricio still thinks he's a loyal attorney, even after 5 or 6 evil plans (mostly foiled, fortunately). And he still has Gabi snowed, too.
Another little scene I enjoyed was when Connie was talking to Nieves. Nieves accused her of maybe taking a liking to some of the earthier types (like Beto). All the while, Connie's entranced expressions showed how true this is, but of course, when Nieves directly questioned her, she denied it all.
Oscar, for one. It's so frustrating how he gets away with so much. Mauricio still thinks he's a loyal attorney, even after 5 or 6 evil plans (mostly foiled, fortunately). And he still has Gabi snowed, too.
Another little scene I enjoyed was when Connie was talking to Nieves. Nieves accused her of maybe taking a liking to some of the earthier types (like Beto). All the while, Connie's entranced expressions showed how true this is, but of course, when Nieves directly questioned her, she denied it all.
Wow...can't think where I heard that gossip about the mirrored ceilings. Oh well....
Thanks for recalling that scene between Connie and Nieves. It will be interesting to see if our Con can get Nieves on her side. Seems unlikely given Nieves' views on romance between the haves and have nots, but we'll see.
Yes, our Smart Woman Stupid Choices Gabriela is still under Oscar's sway, but if Salvador ever makes headway on his divorce (usually not in favor of divorce but in this fictional case....)well, I'm sure she'll see her way to a future with him.
Wonder what the actor playing Salvador really looks like. He seems to be wearing a hairpiece.
Thanks for recalling that scene between Connie and Nieves. It will be interesting to see if our Con can get Nieves on her side. Seems unlikely given Nieves' views on romance between the haves and have nots, but we'll see.
Yes, our Smart Woman Stupid Choices Gabriela is still under Oscar's sway, but if Salvador ever makes headway on his divorce (usually not in favor of divorce but in this fictional case....)well, I'm sure she'll see her way to a future with him.
Wonder what the actor playing Salvador really looks like. He seems to be wearing a hairpiece.
PS Glad you're taking in some shows, Hombre and not spending all your time losing money at the tables. LOL>
Brilliant, Judy.
It was great watching Coni stick it to Jero, although I think in that battle she still has a long way to go to get ahead...I don't know how she could stand to be around him long enough to play out that scene.
Mauricio is sexy but what a jerk. It's a little hard to see him as the hero at the moment...I mean Jero is also a handsome guy, but a jerk. Way to go Monita, trying to clue Mau in to Coni's lies (although trying to clue him into anything is a hopeless chore). The Pinocchio line was funny.
It was great watching Coni stick it to Jero, although I think in that battle she still has a long way to go to get ahead...I don't know how she could stand to be around him long enough to play out that scene.
Mauricio is sexy but what a jerk. It's a little hard to see him as the hero at the moment...I mean Jero is also a handsome guy, but a jerk. Way to go Monita, trying to clue Mau in to Coni's lies (although trying to clue him into anything is a hopeless chore). The Pinocchio line was funny.
Julia, yeah, we seem to be knee deep in jerks right now.
I wish Paula H were on board here to keep track of the number of times the Mauricio / Monita "casarme" switch has been toggled.
Is Teresa the housekeeper the only grown up on this show who really is one? Although I can't help but like Paula, Estrella and, of course, Ximena.
Hombre, stay sane out there in Lost Wages!
Thanks Judy for another great one!
I wish Paula H were on board here to keep track of the number of times the Mauricio / Monita "casarme" switch has been toggled.
Is Teresa the housekeeper the only grown up on this show who really is one? Although I can't help but like Paula, Estrella and, of course, Ximena.
Hombre, stay sane out there in Lost Wages!
Thanks Judy for another great one!
Pinnocchio's nose has come up a couple of times in this novela, Julia. The story must be as popular in Mexico as it is here. Or do we credit Walt Disney?
Yes, Mau and Jeri are both jerks, but at least Mau does have some noble sentiments (his attempts to adopt the 3 kids is one) whereas Jeri has no redeeming qualities (other than attractiveness) that I can see.
Yes, Mau and Jeri are both jerks, but at least Mau does have some noble sentiments (his attempts to adopt the 3 kids is one) whereas Jeri has no redeeming qualities (other than attractiveness) that I can see.
Judy I'll try to find the book. I'm always intrigued about the way people see Mexicans outside of our country. When I was in Toronto I was asked by a girl from Taiwan if we used big hats like in the old movies, wich made me laugh. Also while having a conversation with a teacher I got the idea that she thought all parts of Latinamerica were dangerous and she was a little surprised when I told her that I could walk around in my city without much care or in fear of someone robbing me.
Also, I agree with you in that if Salvador divorced Lorenza and asked Gaby on a date she would surely say yes. She is looking for love in the wrong places because her Mr. Right is not available at the moment.
Also, I agree with you in that if Salvador divorced Lorenza and asked Gaby on a date she would surely say yes. She is looking for love in the wrong places because her Mr. Right is not available at the moment.
Permalink posted by : Wednesday, September 23, 2009 at 3:05:00 PM EDT
: Wednesday, September 23, 2009 at 3:05:00 PM EDT
Hi Mike...thought of you and Emilia yesterday because I was trying out a new recipe, incorporating Southern style greens into a custard base (no sugar, just flour, milk and eggs) and then topped with a cornbread crust. Not bad, and the cornbread, staying on top, remained crispy. But a lot of eggs in the recipe...not one I could recommend as a heart-healthy diet.
Teresa is indeed the voice of wisdom. As soon as Mau finally figures that out, he will marry Moni. Should only be about 6 more months, right?
Teresa is indeed the voice of wisdom. As soon as Mau finally figures that out, he will marry Moni. Should only be about 6 more months, right?
By the way, that was me: Jarocha.
Permalink posted by : Wednesday, September 23, 2009 at 3:06:00 PM EDT
: Wednesday, September 23, 2009 at 3:06:00 PM EDT
Jarocha, I am not sure where you are living right now, but most public libraries in the US would have that book and I presume a number in Mexico also, translated into Spanish.
I tend to find the historical parts and the endless rebellions and change of power confusing (same for US politics) so now am going to focus on the social aspects of the book. It IS interesting.
I tend to find the historical parts and the endless rebellions and change of power confusing (same for US politics) so now am going to focus on the social aspects of the book. It IS interesting.
I live in Veracruz City (or Port of Veracruz depending on who you ask), it's very big so I think they will probably have it but in spanish. Hopefully nothing will be lost in the translation.
Jarocha
Jarocha
Permalink posted by : Wednesday, September 23, 2009 at 3:37:00 PM EDT
: Wednesday, September 23, 2009 at 3:37:00 PM EDT
Two great expressions above I cannot let pass...
Carlos - "Pompous Snot", boy howdy, I've known some of them! Great way of putting it.
Judy - "Lecherous Tussle" stands for itself!
Question: can women be lechers? Usually that's only applied to men.
Carlos - "Pompous Snot", boy howdy, I've known some of them! Great way of putting it.
Judy - "Lecherous Tussle" stands for itself!
Question: can women be lechers? Usually that's only applied to men.
Of course we are not lechers - we observe, we contemplate the scenery, we may even have 'imaginings' but, lechers? never, my dear!!
By the way, Judy, loved the recap and your writing, as always. Sorry I've been more of a lurker than participant. Everybody is just so clever, and it's so much fun reading every day, I just sometimes forget to add my tuppence worth.
Judy and Jarocha, When I was in high school I had the same English teacher for three years with basically the same students each year. She had us read Democracy in America by Alexis de Toqueville, which you probably know as a classic evaluation of the US by a Frenchman. She took a few of us(including the lovely Timothy O') with her each Wed. for a number of weeks to participate in a group of adults who all were reading the book. It was called Great Books Discussions or something like that,a it was a great experience. Anyway, Vecinos Distantes remind s be a great deal of that book, a view of the country through the eyes of a knowledgeable, erudite outsider. Even though it was written many years ago, it captures the spirit of the country and it's people. Perhaps not always flattering, but always sympathetic and with affection. Last night I was able to order a new copy(I still have Adriana's copy, but it is in tatters)from Amazon. They have both the English original as well as the Spanish translation. For many weeks it was the topic of numerous lively discussions between her and me. I also see many of the observations in the book reflected in the TNs.
Carlos
Carlos
Carlos your experiences in highschool sound fantastic, your teacher seems to be one of those that try to leave a good lasting impression on her students. I'm very curious now about this book and what you found reflected on telenovelas. Your friend Adriana also sounds very intelligent and I can imagine you having interesting conversations.
Jarocha
Jarocha
Permalink posted by : Wednesday, September 23, 2009 at 6:26:00 PM EDT
: Wednesday, September 23, 2009 at 6:26:00 PM EDT
Hi Emilia...thanks for adding your "tuppence worth"...it's always appreciated.
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Mike, don't want to disagree with your better half but I know women can be lechers. Not as consistently or with as much energy as men, I suppose. One marriage counselor writer said that when women were treated with the hormone testosterone, they suddenly understood the frustration men dealt with daily. We probably should all have that experience.
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Jarocha...I'll have to learn more about Veracruz now that I know you live there. I'm sure it's beautiful.
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And that Carlos! well, he could probably have interesting conversations with a rock..... That mind of his is always going. But I'm sure Adriana is as bright as she is beautiful. He is doubly blessed. And so is she.
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Mike, don't want to disagree with your better half but I know women can be lechers. Not as consistently or with as much energy as men, I suppose. One marriage counselor writer said that when women were treated with the hormone testosterone, they suddenly understood the frustration men dealt with daily. We probably should all have that experience.
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Jarocha...I'll have to learn more about Veracruz now that I know you live there. I'm sure it's beautiful.
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And that Carlos! well, he could probably have interesting conversations with a rock..... That mind of his is always going. But I'm sure Adriana is as bright as she is beautiful. He is doubly blessed. And so is she.
If Nieves really is helping Beto look for a meal ticket she might warm up to Coni.
Who in the heck knows where this is all going? Except for our two mains the rest is a bit of a mystery to me.
Who in the heck knows where this is all going? Except for our two mains the rest is a bit of a mystery to me.
Judy the story of Corazón Salvaje is situated in Veracruz so now that they actually used the city for taping I'm hoping they mention something about it's history :), it is the main reason I'm actually looking forward to this novela but I'm not getting my hopes up yet.
Jarocha
Jarocha
Permalink posted by : Wednesday, September 23, 2009 at 9:51:00 PM EDT
: Wednesday, September 23, 2009 at 9:51:00 PM EDT
Sylvia I agree with you. Coni has money and Beto would be financially secure with her. I think she prefers Moni because she is a much better person, however sometimes I wonder if Coni actually treats him better because at least she doesn't hit him and he seems to have a better effect on her, of course Nieves doesn't know this.
Jarocha
Jarocha
Permalink posted by : Wednesday, September 23, 2009 at 9:55:00 PM EDT
: Wednesday, September 23, 2009 at 9:55:00 PM EDT
I don't know if it's famous for its cousine but I find it delicious. I think the most popular food from Veracruz is the seafood and of course the coffee wich is considered by many the best coffee in México. In terms of food the only other states where I like theirs as much as ours are Oaxaca, Chiapas and Yucatán. But I don't really like northern food so that must make me a bit biased.
Jarocha
Jarocha
Permalink posted by : Wednesday, September 23, 2009 at 10:42:00 PM EDT
: Wednesday, September 23, 2009 at 10:42:00 PM EDT
Well I love love love fresh seafood so I'm sure I would be a big fan. I've been in the Yucatán and I did enjoy the food. I liked how the tamales were wrapped in banana leaves, it gave them an unusual and tasty flavor. And yes, lots of seafood there, too. I gave up regular coffee a few years ago but I occasionally enjoy an occasional cup "for medicinal purposes", or if the coffee is particularly good, or after a Scandinavian smorgasbord because that is how I was raised.
Yes the banana leaves is how you should wrap a tamal. It is not the same if you don't do that. Its okay if you don't like coffee, I don't care much for it either but there's a place here called La Parroquia where they serve what they call a "Lechero" wich is basically a latte, but the taste is so particular and delicious. I've never tasted anything like it anywhere else.
I was looking for some good english pages about food from Veracruz, this one is good because it explains how we have a mix of cultures affecting the cuisine given that we were sort of the entrance for the Spanish (and other cultures) to México for many years. They don't have pictures though.
Jarocha
I was looking for some good english pages about food from Veracruz, this one is good because it explains how we have a mix of cultures affecting the cuisine given that we were sort of the entrance for the Spanish (and other cultures) to México for many years. They don't have pictures though.
Jarocha
Permalink posted by : Wednesday, September 23, 2009 at 11:12:00 PM EDT
: Wednesday, September 23, 2009 at 11:12:00 PM EDT
What a great link! I am an avid fan of how food can reflect culture and cultural changes. The recipes look excellent too. I especially like the ones for stuffed chiles and the caldo de mariscos. I'm going to save that link and try some of the recipes. Thanks so much!
I'm glad you liked the link. I just didn't like info I found in many of the others that did contain photographs. I wish you the best with the food. I'm sure it will be delicious :).
Jarocha
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