Thursday, January 28, 2010
Gancho Thurs 1/28/10 #156 - If you say you're sorry and nobody hears you do you make a sound? WHAT???
Fasten your seat belts folks, it's a wild ride tonight.
We start right in with the worst, Beto is giving it to Coni, "You've lost me forever." Coni cries. No comment. As we noted earlier today, Beto has a support group and Moni takes him home for some TLC. Coni has Coni.
Gabi is in Caracas, Venezuela; she calls Mau to say Sal is dead. Nooooooooo!
Oh wow, it's Loriloca, remember her? Salvador's crazy wife? A sweet nurse is giving her meds in the manicomio and Lor takes them like a good girl, even opening her mouth in a wide grimace to prove it. NOT! Nursie leaves and Loriloca strolls over to some guy in a cage, holy crap it's Salvador! He looks drugged too and Lori tells him it's just the two of them forever and she's the happiest girl in the whole D of F. Did anyone see that coming? I sure as heck did not.
And another surprise. El Pepillo is telling his producer (real life Gancho Producer Angelli Nesma Medina) that he knows this chick who's a fab actress and can they give her a chance? Producer says Pepi never recommends anyone but he's got a good eye for talent so what the heck. Some little helper dude announces Estrella Falcon, actríz. "Speak of the devil," Pepi says.
Enter our shining star, she rushes over to Pepi and does heartbreak...you were the master of my heart, I never lied to you...Ta da!! They all look at each other and nod, not bad!
Time for some silliness. Lalu and Arnie, who has turned his wrap into a fulll pink pompom beard, enter a restaurant. Arni is incredulous that Lalu expects Arnie to pull his chair out for him. I guess since Arni has the beard he's the man. Arni tries to bring up the subject of Ximena and they discover they have something in common, neither think Xime and Rolu are a good couple. Things almost take a bad turn when Arni says Xime's stupid but Lalu changes the subject, tonight they just talk about themselves. A toast to the cute couple, coming out of the closet and burgeoning love.
Xime and Rolu are discussing the boys over their dinner. Xime thinks Lalu and Arni are adorable together with that look of happiness one gets with the first blush of love. She shudders with joy as she mentions the excitement of that first kiss. Rolu agrees but feels the important thing is to sustain love, like he and Xime do. She's all uh huh, whatever. Wow what a look she gives him, priceless! "I love you" he says like a sap. "You've said that 10 times" she points out, smiling, sort of. Enough of this dreck, she's gotta go to Sermeño Group for some biz, now eat your salad and get strong arms. Rolu is left slightly bewildered.
Back at the restaurant Lalu is trying to engage Arni in the when-did-you-know-you-were-gay game. He ends up calling brother Rolu a lout. Lalu tells Arni that Rolu was the love of Xime's life but he killed that love little by little and now Xime is trying to get rid of him.
Over at the studios the nice producer Angelii agrees to let Estrella do a screen test for her upcoming novela, if the cameras like her then she can have an itty bit part in something. They are all impressed by her enthusiasm and helper dude who I think is the cameraman seems particularly enchanted. He looks like Tano.
Let's move on to Sermeño Group where bad things are gonna happen. Hey I'm not throwing the soup, we all know this company is a hotbed of strife. Xime and Jero are in a conference room bickering, well Jero bickers, Xime is practicing meditation, ohmmmm. The notary guy from yesterday has called them in to tell them that due to the divorce Mau is no longer the owner. The company now belongs to Constanza. When Mau enters the room Jero cries crocodile tears and attempts a bit of brown-nosing but Mau shuts him down, cut the hypocrisy please. Xime sincerely comforts him but Mau says the bottom line is he's gotta get his stuff and scram. The notary tells the sibs that Mau is very down, what with losing his company and Salvador dying and all. WHAT??? Xime is bummed, what about Gabilu and her new ring? Jero can barely contain his joy but nobody pays attention to him anyway.
Odiously Oily Oski is somewhere enjoying a drink and congratulating his minion in Venezuela for doing a stupendous job of faking Sal's death, an airplane accident I think. He wants the perp to keep an eye on Gabi.
Back at SG Jero is about to bust with glee, with Mau and Sal out of the way he can run Sermeño Group into the ground, er I mean he can run Sermeño Group like he always wanted to as the prime shareholder. Ahem...interrups the notary, but all your shares were sold this morning by Oscar Cardenas with the power of attorney that you gave him. WHAT??? Jero has some sort of seizure or panic attack and Xime decides that with everyone dying and falling apart around her the best thing she can do is sit on the table and "channel positive energy" . She centers herself and finds her inner peace. Gotta love this girl.
Over at the vecindad Nieves and Alicia are washing clothes in the public basin and discussing poor Beto and how Mau will save the day for them. Nieves is still suspicious that the worm of the lawyer has something up his sleeve; she has a feeling in the pit of her stomach that something bad is about to happen. About a half second later Marcos slithers in and removes his sunglasses, Hola Nieves. "Marcos!" hisses Nieves and she's not looking too thrilled.
Could this day get any worse? Let's just say that somebody delivered a full pallet of anvils and we're not done unloading yet.
Mau is packing up his office and his memories, "I'll miss you Salvador" he tells a photo of his pal. The door opens and in comes the viper known as Isabel.
Back at the barrio Nieves has a hell of a time getting the nosy Alicia out of her house to run interference in case Don Cesar shows up. Marcos notes that Al is as much a kibitzer as always and that Nieves is as quirky a dresser. He loves it and says she looks more lovely than ever. He tells her he's been thinking about her a lot and wanted to look her up. "Ah, I didn't know you thought," she cheerfully jabs. He spies her menagerie of purses, thus finding her soft spot and almost derailing her. But Nieves gets back on track, "what do you really want Marcos?" After he left her at the altar in her white dress she never wanted to see him again and it's been over thirty years. What does he want now after breaking her heart? "Nieves, in spite of all that's happened I never stopped loving you." Hmmmm...
Looks like the appearance of Isabel has turned our placid Golden Retriever into a snarling Doberman, i.e. Mau is not happy to see her. He made the worst deal of his life with her and now, to top it all off, she reappears. He suggests she keep her word and get her toxic tuckus outta town pronto before Valentina catches sight of her. He won't allow her to break Moni's heart again. He appeals to her sense of decency in regards to Moni, "she saved your life!" "And I gave her life, so that makes us even." (Thanks to Vivi for pointing out this last bit. WOW is right.)
Isabel is on a mission. No she doesn't want to see Moni or money, she wants to warn Mau to get Moni out of town, out of Mexico, because a powerful and dangerous man is interested and she doesn't want him in Moni's life. (OK, I'll bite, what in the heck does Marcos have to do with Valentina?)
Jero is still in his apoplectic state with Xime trying to get some water down his throat to revive him. She has three things to tell him. Una, he's starting to scare her. Dos, it's not good for the human body to stop breathing. Tres, if he doesn't breathe she'll have to give him mouth to mouth and that would be like incest, gross!! Pau takes a shortcut and throws the water in his face. Nice job! Jero jumps up and threatens (still with a nervous tic) the notary who, in response, reveals that Oski sold Jero's stocks to Marcos. WHAT?????
Arni scampers back home to his brother and angrily relates the indignities of the worst date of his life. The entire world turned around to stare at him. The waiters gave him a rose, a rose! He puts his own glasses back on, sighs in relief and adds he'll change for nobody! But he does have results of the recon and Rolu won't like it. "Your wife has already stopped loving you."
All this back and forth is making me dizzy, and it's back to Sermeño Group where Jero is still in a daze. Jero supposes that Marcos has found out about him an Jacqueline and is exacting some sort of revenge to destroy him. Xime figures out that she is part owner and Jero is not, he'll have to make appointments to see her, neener neener neener. Xime's taunts are too much for Jero so he calls her taradùpida and proceeds to strangle her. When the lawyer tries to break them up they both push him away. Xime asks for a pillow, why? Family, go figure. Oh, I forgot to say earlier that Xime tells the lawyer she's a Señora but very soon when she divorces her husband she'll be a Señorita again. Oh, and I just remembered why Xime wants the pillow. It's so Jero can smother her, remember he's always trying to do that?
Now we have another weird and practically unintelligible (to me) conversation between Isa and Mau. She wants Mau to get Moni out of the DF but she won't give him any details about this supposedly powerful and dangerous man. She says Mau isn't in any position to ask questions (why??) and didn't Salvador Ulloa give Mau the message she was looking for him? Oops, he's dead? How unfortunate, now hurry up and get Valentina away from this undefined danger.
Mientras tanto, Nieves is agonizing over the sudden reappearance of Marcos who is only too happy to remind her that she gave him pain too. She lied to him about the child she was carrying. He was ready to give everything up for her and the child. Fine you're right now get the hell out, she tells him. She doesn't need anything, least of all him. He asks one final thing, did she ever stop loving him?
They are interrupted (naturally) by Monita (naturally) and Marcos smiles at her like a spider to a fly, if spiders smiled.
Back at Sermeno Group...
Mau: I need an explanation.
Isa: I don't have to give one. If you love Moni you'll do it. Oh and beware of the Mummy, she knows all about our deal. She said she'd keep quiet but, eh, who knows? So long and I hope this is the last time we see each other.
And back to the barrio where Nieves introduces Marcos, her lawyer, to Monita. Moni's all out of breath about Beto so Marcos splits but not before leaving his card with Nieves, "call me any time, heh heh". Moni can't wait to tell Nieves that Coni's not pregnant after all, it was all a lie. Nieves is as destroyed as Beto...
...who is finding solace in a tequila bottle. Many, in fact, and they are all over his head as part of the decor. "No vale nada, she's not worth it," he grunts with each downed shot. Grunt, urp, slosh, sufro sufro sufro.
Nieves can't believe she heard that worm (her fave word of the day) sobbing in the hospital telling Beto he was going to be a father. However she's sure that Coni WAS pregant, she knows it! Moni convinces Nieves to go with her to the cantina to retrieve drunk Beto...
...who, drunk, sees a couple of guys looking at him and decides to pick a fight with them. He kicks their feet, insults their mother and they remain cool until Beto cold cocks one of them. The other jumps up and punches Beto. Beto punches back then begs them to beat him up so they do. One hits and the other holds and still Beto begs for more. It's as if he thinks they can beat the despair and sadness out of him.
Speaking of which, Coni, friendless and alone as we all discussed today, begs Beto to forgive her...but she's talking to air.
Mañana: It looks like Dani is sick, Xime tells Pau that Salvador is dead, Isabel figures out that Coni is La Momia and she tells Marcos his daughter is The Mummy who wants to destroy Valentina.
Vocabulary:
Cerrar con broche de oro = and to top it all off (Lit. to close with a golden broche)
Guácala de perro = gross! (Lit. dog doo)
Lameculos = suck-up, toady, boot-licker (what Jero does to Mau)
Lombriz = worm (Coni and the Lawyer)
Metiche = kibitzer, meddler (Alicia)
Patán = lout (Rolando)
Peculiar = quirky, peculiar (Nieves)
Taradùpida = combo of tarada (defective) and estùpida (said of Xime but true of Jero)
Dicho of the day, an oldie but a goodie:
Hablando del rey de Roma, por la puerta asoma= speak of the devil (Lit. speak of the kind of Rome and he comes through the door)
We start right in with the worst, Beto is giving it to Coni, "You've lost me forever." Coni cries. No comment. As we noted earlier today, Beto has a support group and Moni takes him home for some TLC. Coni has Coni.
Gabi is in Caracas, Venezuela; she calls Mau to say Sal is dead. Nooooooooo!
Oh wow, it's Loriloca, remember her? Salvador's crazy wife? A sweet nurse is giving her meds in the manicomio and Lor takes them like a good girl, even opening her mouth in a wide grimace to prove it. NOT! Nursie leaves and Loriloca strolls over to some guy in a cage, holy crap it's Salvador! He looks drugged too and Lori tells him it's just the two of them forever and she's the happiest girl in the whole D of F. Did anyone see that coming? I sure as heck did not.
And another surprise. El Pepillo is telling his producer (real life Gancho Producer Angelli Nesma Medina) that he knows this chick who's a fab actress and can they give her a chance? Producer says Pepi never recommends anyone but he's got a good eye for talent so what the heck. Some little helper dude announces Estrella Falcon, actríz. "Speak of the devil," Pepi says.
Enter our shining star, she rushes over to Pepi and does heartbreak...you were the master of my heart, I never lied to you...Ta da!! They all look at each other and nod, not bad!
Time for some silliness. Lalu and Arnie, who has turned his wrap into a fulll pink pompom beard, enter a restaurant. Arni is incredulous that Lalu expects Arnie to pull his chair out for him. I guess since Arni has the beard he's the man. Arni tries to bring up the subject of Ximena and they discover they have something in common, neither think Xime and Rolu are a good couple. Things almost take a bad turn when Arni says Xime's stupid but Lalu changes the subject, tonight they just talk about themselves. A toast to the cute couple, coming out of the closet and burgeoning love.
Xime and Rolu are discussing the boys over their dinner. Xime thinks Lalu and Arni are adorable together with that look of happiness one gets with the first blush of love. She shudders with joy as she mentions the excitement of that first kiss. Rolu agrees but feels the important thing is to sustain love, like he and Xime do. She's all uh huh, whatever. Wow what a look she gives him, priceless! "I love you" he says like a sap. "You've said that 10 times" she points out, smiling, sort of. Enough of this dreck, she's gotta go to Sermeño Group for some biz, now eat your salad and get strong arms. Rolu is left slightly bewildered.
Back at the restaurant Lalu is trying to engage Arni in the when-did-you-know-you-were-gay game. He ends up calling brother Rolu a lout. Lalu tells Arni that Rolu was the love of Xime's life but he killed that love little by little and now Xime is trying to get rid of him.
Over at the studios the nice producer Angelii agrees to let Estrella do a screen test for her upcoming novela, if the cameras like her then she can have an itty bit part in something. They are all impressed by her enthusiasm and helper dude who I think is the cameraman seems particularly enchanted. He looks like Tano.
Let's move on to Sermeño Group where bad things are gonna happen. Hey I'm not throwing the soup, we all know this company is a hotbed of strife. Xime and Jero are in a conference room bickering, well Jero bickers, Xime is practicing meditation, ohmmmm. The notary guy from yesterday has called them in to tell them that due to the divorce Mau is no longer the owner. The company now belongs to Constanza. When Mau enters the room Jero cries crocodile tears and attempts a bit of brown-nosing but Mau shuts him down, cut the hypocrisy please. Xime sincerely comforts him but Mau says the bottom line is he's gotta get his stuff and scram. The notary tells the sibs that Mau is very down, what with losing his company and Salvador dying and all. WHAT??? Xime is bummed, what about Gabilu and her new ring? Jero can barely contain his joy but nobody pays attention to him anyway.
Odiously Oily Oski is somewhere enjoying a drink and congratulating his minion in Venezuela for doing a stupendous job of faking Sal's death, an airplane accident I think. He wants the perp to keep an eye on Gabi.
Back at SG Jero is about to bust with glee, with Mau and Sal out of the way he can run Sermeño Group into the ground, er I mean he can run Sermeño Group like he always wanted to as the prime shareholder. Ahem...interrups the notary, but all your shares were sold this morning by Oscar Cardenas with the power of attorney that you gave him. WHAT??? Jero has some sort of seizure or panic attack and Xime decides that with everyone dying and falling apart around her the best thing she can do is sit on the table and "channel positive energy" . She centers herself and finds her inner peace. Gotta love this girl.
Over at the vecindad Nieves and Alicia are washing clothes in the public basin and discussing poor Beto and how Mau will save the day for them. Nieves is still suspicious that the worm of the lawyer has something up his sleeve; she has a feeling in the pit of her stomach that something bad is about to happen. About a half second later Marcos slithers in and removes his sunglasses, Hola Nieves. "Marcos!" hisses Nieves and she's not looking too thrilled.
Could this day get any worse? Let's just say that somebody delivered a full pallet of anvils and we're not done unloading yet.
Mau is packing up his office and his memories, "I'll miss you Salvador" he tells a photo of his pal. The door opens and in comes the viper known as Isabel.
Back at the barrio Nieves has a hell of a time getting the nosy Alicia out of her house to run interference in case Don Cesar shows up. Marcos notes that Al is as much a kibitzer as always and that Nieves is as quirky a dresser. He loves it and says she looks more lovely than ever. He tells her he's been thinking about her a lot and wanted to look her up. "Ah, I didn't know you thought," she cheerfully jabs. He spies her menagerie of purses, thus finding her soft spot and almost derailing her. But Nieves gets back on track, "what do you really want Marcos?" After he left her at the altar in her white dress she never wanted to see him again and it's been over thirty years. What does he want now after breaking her heart? "Nieves, in spite of all that's happened I never stopped loving you." Hmmmm...
Looks like the appearance of Isabel has turned our placid Golden Retriever into a snarling Doberman, i.e. Mau is not happy to see her. He made the worst deal of his life with her and now, to top it all off, she reappears. He suggests she keep her word and get her toxic tuckus outta town pronto before Valentina catches sight of her. He won't allow her to break Moni's heart again. He appeals to her sense of decency in regards to Moni, "she saved your life!" "And I gave her life, so that makes us even." (Thanks to Vivi for pointing out this last bit. WOW is right.)
Isabel is on a mission. No she doesn't want to see Moni or money, she wants to warn Mau to get Moni out of town, out of Mexico, because a powerful and dangerous man is interested and she doesn't want him in Moni's life. (OK, I'll bite, what in the heck does Marcos have to do with Valentina?)
Jero is still in his apoplectic state with Xime trying to get some water down his throat to revive him. She has three things to tell him. Una, he's starting to scare her. Dos, it's not good for the human body to stop breathing. Tres, if he doesn't breathe she'll have to give him mouth to mouth and that would be like incest, gross!! Pau takes a shortcut and throws the water in his face. Nice job! Jero jumps up and threatens (still with a nervous tic) the notary who, in response, reveals that Oski sold Jero's stocks to Marcos. WHAT?????
Arni scampers back home to his brother and angrily relates the indignities of the worst date of his life. The entire world turned around to stare at him. The waiters gave him a rose, a rose! He puts his own glasses back on, sighs in relief and adds he'll change for nobody! But he does have results of the recon and Rolu won't like it. "Your wife has already stopped loving you."
All this back and forth is making me dizzy, and it's back to Sermeño Group where Jero is still in a daze. Jero supposes that Marcos has found out about him an Jacqueline and is exacting some sort of revenge to destroy him. Xime figures out that she is part owner and Jero is not, he'll have to make appointments to see her, neener neener neener. Xime's taunts are too much for Jero so he calls her taradùpida and proceeds to strangle her. When the lawyer tries to break them up they both push him away. Xime asks for a pillow, why? Family, go figure. Oh, I forgot to say earlier that Xime tells the lawyer she's a Señora but very soon when she divorces her husband she'll be a Señorita again. Oh, and I just remembered why Xime wants the pillow. It's so Jero can smother her, remember he's always trying to do that?
Now we have another weird and practically unintelligible (to me) conversation between Isa and Mau. She wants Mau to get Moni out of the DF but she won't give him any details about this supposedly powerful and dangerous man. She says Mau isn't in any position to ask questions (why??) and didn't Salvador Ulloa give Mau the message she was looking for him? Oops, he's dead? How unfortunate, now hurry up and get Valentina away from this undefined danger.
Mientras tanto, Nieves is agonizing over the sudden reappearance of Marcos who is only too happy to remind her that she gave him pain too. She lied to him about the child she was carrying. He was ready to give everything up for her and the child. Fine you're right now get the hell out, she tells him. She doesn't need anything, least of all him. He asks one final thing, did she ever stop loving him?
They are interrupted (naturally) by Monita (naturally) and Marcos smiles at her like a spider to a fly, if spiders smiled.
Back at Sermeno Group...
Mau: I need an explanation.
Isa: I don't have to give one. If you love Moni you'll do it. Oh and beware of the Mummy, she knows all about our deal. She said she'd keep quiet but, eh, who knows? So long and I hope this is the last time we see each other.
And back to the barrio where Nieves introduces Marcos, her lawyer, to Monita. Moni's all out of breath about Beto so Marcos splits but not before leaving his card with Nieves, "call me any time, heh heh". Moni can't wait to tell Nieves that Coni's not pregnant after all, it was all a lie. Nieves is as destroyed as Beto...
...who is finding solace in a tequila bottle. Many, in fact, and they are all over his head as part of the decor. "No vale nada, she's not worth it," he grunts with each downed shot. Grunt, urp, slosh, sufro sufro sufro.
Nieves can't believe she heard that worm (her fave word of the day) sobbing in the hospital telling Beto he was going to be a father. However she's sure that Coni WAS pregant, she knows it! Moni convinces Nieves to go with her to the cantina to retrieve drunk Beto...
...who, drunk, sees a couple of guys looking at him and decides to pick a fight with them. He kicks their feet, insults their mother and they remain cool until Beto cold cocks one of them. The other jumps up and punches Beto. Beto punches back then begs them to beat him up so they do. One hits and the other holds and still Beto begs for more. It's as if he thinks they can beat the despair and sadness out of him.
Speaking of which, Coni, friendless and alone as we all discussed today, begs Beto to forgive her...but she's talking to air.
Mañana: It looks like Dani is sick, Xime tells Pau that Salvador is dead, Isabel figures out that Coni is La Momia and she tells Marcos his daughter is The Mummy who wants to destroy Valentina.
Vocabulary:
Cerrar con broche de oro = and to top it all off (Lit. to close with a golden broche)
Guácala de perro = gross! (Lit. dog doo)
Lameculos = suck-up, toady, boot-licker (what Jero does to Mau)
Lombriz = worm (Coni and the Lawyer)
Metiche = kibitzer, meddler (Alicia)
Patán = lout (Rolando)
Peculiar = quirky, peculiar (Nieves)
Taradùpida = combo of tarada (defective) and estùpida (said of Xime but true of Jero)
Dicho of the day, an oldie but a goodie:
Hablando del rey de Roma, por la puerta asoma= speak of the devil (Lit. speak of the kind of Rome and he comes through the door)
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Sylvia, what a great job. We were forced to take a dose of castor oil tonight but your recap is that spoonful of sugar that we so desperately needed. Like Judy yesterday, you made the painful, well... fun.
The scene with Beto in the bar, we've seen before. Don Fernando (LFMB) in an Acapulco bar. That went on painfully longer than necessary, but the message was the same, love hurts.
I truly believe that Coni wishes that things were different. She has hit bottom. She will train hard, probably cheat, and... lose. Destino.
The music told us that Marcos is Moni's dad. I always trust the music. I'm guessing that Isabel was embarrazada when the gang rape took place, Nieves... no. In fact I'll venture that Nieves was a virgin when that happened. Asi que, Coni and Moni... hermanas. Whoa!
Carlos
The scene with Beto in the bar, we've seen before. Don Fernando (LFMB) in an Acapulco bar. That went on painfully longer than necessary, but the message was the same, love hurts.
I truly believe that Coni wishes that things were different. She has hit bottom. She will train hard, probably cheat, and... lose. Destino.
The music told us that Marcos is Moni's dad. I always trust the music. I'm guessing that Isabel was embarrazada when the gang rape took place, Nieves... no. In fact I'll venture that Nieves was a virgin when that happened. Asi que, Coni and Moni... hermanas. Whoa!
Carlos
Hi Carlos. Really? Moni and Coni sisters? Really? Trusting the music is usually a good bet because the music rarely lies. Wow, what a twist that would be.
What about Loriloca and Sal? He's right where she's always wanted him, in the nuthouse. Gosh that surprised me. Will Gabi give up or will she seek him out? She seems to have a sixth sense where he is concerned.
Spoonful of sugar...thank you, I love the reference!
What about Loriloca and Sal? He's right where she's always wanted him, in the nuthouse. Gosh that surprised me. Will Gabi give up or will she seek him out? She seems to have a sixth sense where he is concerned.
Spoonful of sugar...thank you, I love the reference!
Sylvia, if Gabi has the least suspicion (and she will) that he is alive, she will track Sal down. She looks like a Springer Spaniel, but she is a Bloodhound. I think the quest to liberate Salvador will be fun and exciting.
I'm in the contingent that is pulling for Ximena and Rolu to work things out. I'm betting that he just needs to work on his magic. However (sorry all my gay friends), if Lalo is contention... my money is on him.
Carlos
I'm in the contingent that is pulling for Ximena and Rolu to work things out. I'm betting that he just needs to work on his magic. However (sorry all my gay friends), if Lalo is contention... my money is on him.
Carlos
It makes me feel better that you think Gabi will track Sal down. Thank goodness he's alive, but I when I saw him in the cage with Loriloca I almost put my fingers in my ears and sang la la la la la again. However, they are separated and that's a good thing.
Jeronimo lost his shares in the company and that's a good thing.
Estrella got a job maybe, good thing.
Xime's not crying over Rolu any more, good thing. (I want them to get together to.)
Jeronimo lost his shares in the company and that's a good thing.
Estrella got a job maybe, good thing.
Xime's not crying over Rolu any more, good thing. (I want them to get together to.)
Oh wow, how could I have forgotten Estrella and Pepillo, another glaring reason to watch this show. And Sylvia, knowing the producer is a producer of this show... I stand in awe.
Pepillo's motives? Hmmm.
Carlos
Pepillo's motives? Hmmm.
Carlos
Knowing the producer? Not that hard. I could tell she wasn't an actress, she was playing a producer, I looked up the name of the Gancho producer and did a Google image search on the name, voila!
Yes, Pepillo's motives...why was he so impressed by Estrella? (Besides the obvious that she is indeed impressive.) There could be more than one reason.
Yes, Pepillo's motives...why was he so impressed by Estrella? (Besides the obvious that she is indeed impressive.) There could be more than one reason.
Wow! Sylvia, sly, sagacious sleuth. I would have figured that they casted someone who looks like a producer. Very well done. Impressive... and fun to know.
Isn't Beto all the more tragic because he is always the clown?
Carlos
Isn't Beto all the more tragic because he is always the clown?
Carlos
Definitely. First he was like a wise child, then he got drunk and went on a terribly self-destructive bender. It was funny at first then it was just awful. It's always sadder when the ones we rely on to cheer us up have tears in their eyes. I really do hope that he and Coni can find their way back to each other. So far they have been the most passionate couple by a long shot.
Sylvia this was a very fine recap an it filled in anumber of blanks in my understanding.
Coni and Moni, hermanas?? Lordy, lordy, is there any woman 'of a certain age" in DF with whom Marcos did NOT have congress? That man got around.
Y pobrecito Beto, payaso triste.
Coni and Moni, hermanas?? Lordy, lordy, is there any woman 'of a certain age" in DF with whom Marcos did NOT have congress? That man got around.
Y pobrecito Beto, payaso triste.
Good monring Sylvia, Carlos and Elna June.
I'm always grateful for the unexpected things in life that bring happiness. Yesterday, an outside appointment ended early, allowing me to rush home and see this pivotal episode. I was transfixed by these wonderful characters - this show is a masterpiece.
Sylvia, you infused life, energy and heart into this packed episode. You crystalized every word and action so that they are indelibly etched in our memory. Spectacular recap and title and the vocabulary and dicho wonderful and greatly appreciated.
"pompon beard", "hotbed of strife" and my favorite "toxic tuckus" were great.
I loved Lalu and Arnie's in sync motions - polishing their knives and wiping off their wine glasses. What chemistry! I was laughing out loud...
Carlos, appreciate your noting what may have happened with Isabel and Nieves. If Moni and Coni are sisters, I'm wondering if it is at all possible for them to somehow salvage their relationship?
While happy to see Sal is still with us, it was horrible to see him so defeated and the fact he's imprisoned along side of Loriloco was chilling.
Perhaps Jero should not have trusted his better half, Oscar. No sympathy there.
Marcos and Isabel seem the perfect pair. He is cold and calculating and to me Isabel is completely "cringworthy", devoid of any kindness or compassion. Blech.
Elna June, roared at your comment wondering if there was anyone of "a certain age" Marcos didn't have congress with!
Diana
I'm always grateful for the unexpected things in life that bring happiness. Yesterday, an outside appointment ended early, allowing me to rush home and see this pivotal episode. I was transfixed by these wonderful characters - this show is a masterpiece.
Sylvia, you infused life, energy and heart into this packed episode. You crystalized every word and action so that they are indelibly etched in our memory. Spectacular recap and title and the vocabulary and dicho wonderful and greatly appreciated.
"pompon beard", "hotbed of strife" and my favorite "toxic tuckus" were great.
I loved Lalu and Arnie's in sync motions - polishing their knives and wiping off their wine glasses. What chemistry! I was laughing out loud...
Carlos, appreciate your noting what may have happened with Isabel and Nieves. If Moni and Coni are sisters, I'm wondering if it is at all possible for them to somehow salvage their relationship?
While happy to see Sal is still with us, it was horrible to see him so defeated and the fact he's imprisoned along side of Loriloco was chilling.
Perhaps Jero should not have trusted his better half, Oscar. No sympathy there.
Marcos and Isabel seem the perfect pair. He is cold and calculating and to me Isabel is completely "cringworthy", devoid of any kindness or compassion. Blech.
Elna June, roared at your comment wondering if there was anyone of "a certain age" Marcos didn't have congress with!
Diana
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: Friday, January 29, 2010 at 8:03:00 AM EST
: Friday, January 29, 2010 at 8:03:00 AM EST
I was so happy to actually get to SEE this episode yesterday. But Sylvia did such a masterful job at the recap (as have all of the other Gancho recappers) that it would have been easy to visualize.
The most chilling line of the episode to me was Mau trying to appeal to Isabel's sense of decency in regards to Moni. "She saved your life!" "And I gave her life, so that makes us even." Wow! HER name should have been Nieves. That's how cold she is.
The most chilling line of the episode to me was Mau trying to appeal to Isabel's sense of decency in regards to Moni. "She saved your life!" "And I gave her life, so that makes us even." Wow! HER name should have been Nieves. That's how cold she is.
Wow Vivi, I totally missed that exchange between Mau and Isa. I'm going to add it to the recap, hope I get it in the right place.
Hi Sylvia...let me join in the chorus of "greats" because this was a wonderful recap.
First of all, the title. Just so great. Reminds me of all those philosophical rants we used to go on as pompous undergraduates in philosophy class (or in coffee houses).
And as always, love your prose. In addition to what Diana mentioned (we're switching roles, amiga) I loved "Somebody delivered a full load of anvils and we're not done unloading yet". So delicious I could taste it.
Haven't seen this yet. I'm "processing a lot of negative energy" in my body after taking a bad fall on black ice carrying out the recycling bin. After scuttling all over the neighborhood to pick up the stuff (wind was blowing too dammit) I drove to the studio, taught class and then scuttled back home to bed. Pretty much hurt all over but particularly in tailbone. Would love to talk back injuries with Evan Turner but he's probably busy practicing. Back to bed and Mr. Advil for me now. But thanks, Sylvia. Just awesome!
First of all, the title. Just so great. Reminds me of all those philosophical rants we used to go on as pompous undergraduates in philosophy class (or in coffee houses).
And as always, love your prose. In addition to what Diana mentioned (we're switching roles, amiga) I loved "Somebody delivered a full load of anvils and we're not done unloading yet". So delicious I could taste it.
Haven't seen this yet. I'm "processing a lot of negative energy" in my body after taking a bad fall on black ice carrying out the recycling bin. After scuttling all over the neighborhood to pick up the stuff (wind was blowing too dammit) I drove to the studio, taught class and then scuttled back home to bed. Pretty much hurt all over but particularly in tailbone. Would love to talk back injuries with Evan Turner but he's probably busy practicing. Back to bed and Mr. Advil for me now. But thanks, Sylvia. Just awesome!
Oh dear Judy, I'm so sorry to hear you took a fall. Tailbone injuries are the worst! Please take care amiga, a couple of Mother's Little Helpers and lots of rest will help I hope. Oh, and Xime's trick of finding inner peace couldn't hurt either.
Thanks for all the encouraging words y'all. I quite enjoyed this episode because it had few conversational bogs and Ximena was in it a lot. Elna June's observations got a huge laugh out of me too. EJ, you obviously are a professional in matters of the mind, I'm always curious about your take on the happenings in Gancholandia.
Diana, I just know Gabi will somehow rescue Salvador! They are destined to be together.
Thanks for all the encouraging words y'all. I quite enjoyed this episode because it had few conversational bogs and Ximena was in it a lot. Elna June's observations got a huge laugh out of me too. EJ, you obviously are a professional in matters of the mind, I'm always curious about your take on the happenings in Gancholandia.
Diana, I just know Gabi will somehow rescue Salvador! They are destined to be together.
Judy, so sorry to hear you fell! Knowing how dedicated you are, I'm not at all surprised you soldiered on to teach class. But, how did you manage to work through the pain to conduct the class? Is there anything more painful than the tailbone? Ack.
Please rest and take care of yourself. Sending hugs to warm and heal.
Diana
Please rest and take care of yourself. Sending hugs to warm and heal.
Diana
Permalink posted by : Friday, January 29, 2010 at 9:04:00 AM EST
: Friday, January 29, 2010 at 9:04:00 AM EST
Judy, ouch! Use some ice. I'm impressed that you taught your class. Are you sure you didn't play for the Iron Ovaries along side Sylvia?
I found Jero's cataplectic fit fascinating. It was very well executed. As good as just about any that I've seen in the emergency room over the years. Pau certainly had the right idea to revive him, though perhaps a little heavy-handed.
Diana, you and I have the same opinion of this show. I think that it is something very special. I'm so glad you got to see this episode. I quibble with you on one point, I would not wish the gloomy, one might even say (so I shall) lugubrious husk of a woman on such a lively, and yes, rascally, bon vivant as Marcos. Not to mention (but I shall) her failed audition in bed, or maybe the backseat of Marcos' Mercedes. No, he and Nieves are destined for each other, or why else would she have told him to get right back out of her life?
Carlos
I found Jero's cataplectic fit fascinating. It was very well executed. As good as just about any that I've seen in the emergency room over the years. Pau certainly had the right idea to revive him, though perhaps a little heavy-handed.
Diana, you and I have the same opinion of this show. I think that it is something very special. I'm so glad you got to see this episode. I quibble with you on one point, I would not wish the gloomy, one might even say (so I shall) lugubrious husk of a woman on such a lively, and yes, rascally, bon vivant as Marcos. Not to mention (but I shall) her failed audition in bed, or maybe the backseat of Marcos' Mercedes. No, he and Nieves are destined for each other, or why else would she have told him to get right back out of her life?
Carlos
Carlos, I can see I am in the minority on Marcos. Charming? Suave? Sophisticated? I'm marking my checkbox "none of the above".
My mind was fairly made up when I read his decidedly ungallant criticism of Isabel. I did try to give him the benefit of the doubt, searching in vain for some (any?) appealing quality - kindness, heart or soul and found nothing. Thus far, his charms elude me.
Perhaps he has been more appealing in other episodes. While I fear he is simply not good enough for our beloved Nieves, if he makes her happy, then I will be happy for her!
Diana
My mind was fairly made up when I read his decidedly ungallant criticism of Isabel. I did try to give him the benefit of the doubt, searching in vain for some (any?) appealing quality - kindness, heart or soul and found nothing. Thus far, his charms elude me.
Perhaps he has been more appealing in other episodes. While I fear he is simply not good enough for our beloved Nieves, if he makes her happy, then I will be happy for her!
Diana
Permalink posted by : Friday, January 29, 2010 at 10:30:00 AM EST
: Friday, January 29, 2010 at 10:30:00 AM EST
Diana, I think that you are spot on about Marcos' character. I think that deep down, you still won't find much goodness. I understand your reluctance to pair him with our Nieves, but I get the feeling we're going to see a lot of him for awhile. It should be good when he meets Beto again, this time as Nieves' wastrel son.
Poor Sal, first he was poisoned, then an MI, and now held prisoner with Loriloca as his (almost) cellmate. He probably thinks that he's died and cone to Hell.
Carlos
Poor Sal, first he was poisoned, then an MI, and now held prisoner with Loriloca as his (almost) cellmate. He probably thinks that he's died and cone to Hell.
Carlos
I do NOT wish for a Nieves/Marcos pairing. Allow me to rant...he thinks that after all this time he can just waltz back into Nieves' life as if she has been waiting for him? I think not. I can't help comparing him with Don Cesar who is lively, honest and peppy. Would I rather hang out with dapper but dour and detestable Marcos or the adorable porcupine in airplane jammies? I think you know my answer.
Also, how dare Marcos tell Isa she's a bore in bed. It takes two to tango, turkey. Harrumph!
Go Don Cesar!!!!
Also, how dare Marcos tell Isa she's a bore in bed. It takes two to tango, turkey. Harrumph!
Go Don Cesar!!!!
JudyB:
I am SO sorry about your fall.Please take good care of yourself. I broke my tailbone once and it was not fun.
You know the drill, but don't forget your arnica. It really helps me with bruising and inflammation. I am sure our Dr. Carlos will have some excellent advice for your healing.
EJ off to a long day of work.
I am SO sorry about your fall.Please take good care of yourself. I broke my tailbone once and it was not fun.
You know the drill, but don't forget your arnica. It really helps me with bruising and inflammation. I am sure our Dr. Carlos will have some excellent advice for your healing.
EJ off to a long day of work.
Sylvia, Maah-velous!! Being a nasty guy, I particularly like the phrase "toxic tuckus"! I'll have to use that one in public when Emilia's around.
One of the guys I work with just held forth for five mins or so about his pregnant daughter's hemorrhoids, so I'll have to inquire on Monday about her toxic tuckus, I suppose.
Agree with you 100% that Don Cesar is a much better guy for Nieves than this arrogant clown Marcos.
One of the guys I work with just held forth for five mins or so about his pregnant daughter's hemorrhoids, so I'll have to inquire on Monday about her toxic tuckus, I suppose.
Agree with you 100% that Don Cesar is a much better guy for Nieves than this arrogant clown Marcos.
Final note:
Couldn't agree more with all of you who are over Marcos. This man is slick and slippery. Sylvia, thanks for the earlier compliment.
Don't have time to write more, but suffice it to say that if Isabel ended up with Marcos it would be fine by me.
Nieves deserves a GOOD person.
Couldn't agree more with all of you who are over Marcos. This man is slick and slippery. Sylvia, thanks for the earlier compliment.
Don't have time to write more, but suffice it to say that if Isabel ended up with Marcos it would be fine by me.
Nieves deserves a GOOD person.
Great recap, Sylvia! Everyone else already listed some of the wonderful lines, so I'll just say, ITA.
I don't like Marcos at all. Didn't he have 4 people killed? Paid off the judge? Broke into Mau's place? Secretly bought Grupo Sermeno shares? Called Isabel bad in bed? Otherwise, he's Mr. Perfect. Not.
I like Carlos's guess than Coni and Moni are sisters, although they'd actually be half sisters, since Coni's Mom is Jacqui. BTW, I'm hoping Jacqui will help the side of good.
It's possible Gabi will feel she should notify Lorenza about Sal's death, and maybe then she'd find Sal.
I hope Xime gets to use her shares in the company to shake things up a bit.
Sylvia, I agree that cameraman in the producer's office looked like Tano, and that maybe Estrella and he will hit it off.
This show sure isnt' boring!
I don't like Marcos at all. Didn't he have 4 people killed? Paid off the judge? Broke into Mau's place? Secretly bought Grupo Sermeno shares? Called Isabel bad in bed? Otherwise, he's Mr. Perfect. Not.
I like Carlos's guess than Coni and Moni are sisters, although they'd actually be half sisters, since Coni's Mom is Jacqui. BTW, I'm hoping Jacqui will help the side of good.
It's possible Gabi will feel she should notify Lorenza about Sal's death, and maybe then she'd find Sal.
I hope Xime gets to use her shares in the company to shake things up a bit.
Sylvia, I agree that cameraman in the producer's office looked like Tano, and that maybe Estrella and he will hit it off.
This show sure isnt' boring!
Sylvia,
Great recap! So informative and I appreciate that b/c I had a hard time staying awake during the 12am showing. I'm interested to see how the Marcos/Isa"B"/Coni/Moni story unfolds. I can really see Moni and Coni being sisters. The sibling rivalry is already there. I'm just saying...
~Rockz (roxy)
Great recap! So informative and I appreciate that b/c I had a hard time staying awake during the 12am showing. I'm interested to see how the Marcos/Isa"B"/Coni/Moni story unfolds. I can really see Moni and Coni being sisters. The sibling rivalry is already there. I'm just saying...
~Rockz (roxy)
Let me clarify my position on Marcos. I am definitely not pulling for Marcos and Nieves to reunite. I merely noted that by Nieves telling him to get back out of her life, she has virtually assured that he will be seriously sniffing back around for some time. No doubt he can be a charmer, so I would not be surprised (actually I expect) for them to get back together, at least for awhile. They definitely have unfinished business, at least as far as he's concerned.
Now Coni is a very different matter.
Carlos
Carlos
Now Coni is a very different matter.
Carlos
Carlos
Don't worry Carlos, I didn't ever think you wanted Marcos and Nieves to END UP together. I agree that there is bound to be some strife before Nieves works things out for herself. Just the idea of Marcos interrupting Nieves' life was enough to set me off.
One more interesting thing is that we don't know if Isabel is really a little bit good now, or just totally bad. Does she really want Mau and Moni to leave town to protect Moni? Is she really fighting for or against Marcos? For or against Coni? Or just looking out for her own interests? And what would they be? She's an enigma.
Carlos, no, even I understood your point about what happens in TNs and that further interaction between Marcos and Nieves is guaranteed.
Now I'm wondering if Porni and Monita were Switched At Birth. Not hard to imagine Marcos and Jacqueline producing someone like Valentina and a pairing of Isabel and, say, any random incubus could produce a Porni.
Now I'm wondering if Porni and Monita were Switched At Birth. Not hard to imagine Marcos and Jacqueline producing someone like Valentina and a pairing of Isabel and, say, any random incubus could produce a Porni.
Oh man Mike, you come up with some great ones - "random incubus" I like that and that seems very logical to me, I could totally see the switcheroo!!!
Great recap Syl, I liked "Let's just say that somebody delivered a full pallet of anvils and we're not done unloading yet." for one of many great lines....including the title. Wonderful!
Poor Sal... :)
Great recap Syl, I liked "Let's just say that somebody delivered a full pallet of anvils and we're not done unloading yet." for one of many great lines....including the title. Wonderful!
Poor Sal... :)
Great recap Silvya. Love your title.
The scene with Salvador in the hospital with Loriloca was fantastic and chilling.
Poor Gabi. I hope she finds the truth.
Loved when Jerónimo was choking Xime and he threatened her with the pillow and she was all: NOOO, not the pillow! and then she asked the other guy to bring the pillow. Hehe.
Jarocha
The scene with Salvador in the hospital with Loriloca was fantastic and chilling.
Poor Gabi. I hope she finds the truth.
Loved when Jerónimo was choking Xime and he threatened her with the pillow and she was all: NOOO, not the pillow! and then she asked the other guy to bring the pillow. Hehe.
Jarocha
Permalink posted by : Friday, January 29, 2010 at 2:17:00 PM EST
: Friday, January 29, 2010 at 2:17:00 PM EST
Sylvia just one thing. I'm sure it was just a typo but the spelling for "Rey" uses a y.
Jarocha
Jarocha
Permalink posted by : Friday, January 29, 2010 at 2:57:00 PM EST
: Friday, January 29, 2010 at 2:57:00 PM EST
Sorry im a teen. Whats the DF? Please explain.
Permalink posted by : Friday, February 5, 2010 at 2:41:00 PM EST
: Friday, February 5, 2010 at 2:41:00 PM EST
DF stands for Distrito Federal or Federal District because it is the seat of the Mexican Government. Mexico city is commonly known as the DF and also just Mexico.
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