Monday, August 30, 2010
El Clon, Mon., August 30 - Summary for Discussion
Daniel finds out that he is clone
Jadiya spoils Rania's birthday party
Marisa gets her money back
Jade tells Jadiya that she would never abandon her and Jadiya asks Jade to come home with her. Jade replies that she can't. Said won't take her back.
Jadiya says that Said told her that Jade loved a Westerner. Jade tells her to forget about the Westerner. He never loved her anyway. One of the maids in white shows up and is surprised to see Jade there.
Jadiya spoils Rania's birthday party
Marisa gets her money back
Jade tells Jadiya that she would never abandon her and Jadiya asks Jade to come home with her. Jade replies that she can't. Said won't take her back.
Jadiya says that Said told her that Jade loved a Westerner. Jade tells her to forget about the Westerner. He never loved her anyway. One of the maids in white shows up and is surprised to see Jade there. PSA Enrique - the same as Friday - drug addict stealing from family.
Nati confesses to Alej that she did take the money (Yo sí tomé el dinero). When Nati says, 'Soy la peor, ¿verdad?
'I am the worst, right?, Alej should say, no you're not but you need help from professionals. But he doesn't. He says that Nati should give the money back. Of course, she can't because she spent it on you know what. Alej says that he will give her the money from what his trainer gives him. He says that Nati made a mistake and once she admits to it, everything will be ok. Nati doesn't want to go and Alej the super enabler offers to return the money for her.
'I am the worst, right?, Alej should say, no you're not but you need help from professionals. But he doesn't. He says that Nati should give the money back. Of course, she can't because she spent it on you know what. Alej says that he will give her the money from what his trainer gives him. He says that Nati made a mistake and once she admits to it, everything will be ok. Nati doesn't want to go and Alej the super enabler offers to return the money for her. 
Jadiya wants Jade to come home with her but she refuses. She tells Jade not to tell anyone about their meeting and then they can meet in secret like this everyday. Jadiya says that she doesn't want Jade to go to Morocco. Jade replies that if that is what Allah decrees for her, she must accept it.
Lucas calls Marisa. This time it is he who is fighting back tears. He tells Marisa that, 'Natalia se está matando en frente de nosotros y no podemos hacer nada,' Natalia is killing herself before our eyes and we can't do anything. Marisa won't give up on Nati. She tells Lucas to man up and come home so that they can try and find a solution.
Alej comes to see Marisa. He tells her that Nati is very ashamed of what she did. Marisa asks if Nati admitted to taking the money. Alej says yes and that she asked him to return the money and assures her that it won't happen again. He hands her five $20's and we know Nati took a $100 dollar bill so Marisa also knows that this isn't the same money that Nati took.
He leaves. Marisa concludes that Nati took the money for Alej and that he became scared when Lucas came to the house. Rosa tries to defends Alej.
He leaves. Marisa concludes that Nati took the money for Alej and that he became scared when Lucas came to the house. Rosa tries to defends Alej.Wearing Jade's veil, Rania thanks Said for her birthday party.
A distraught Latifa begs Zoraida to help her. She tells Zoraida that Zamira is in love with a Westerner. She is sure that Mohamed will curse Zamira and throw her to the winds, conclude that Latifa wasn't a good wife and use that as an excuse to take a 2nd wife. Zoriada says they will make Zamira forget the Westerner.
Jadiya makes her appearance at the party with a big jingly gold bib necklace. 
Yamil tells Jadiya that her audible jewelry is embarrassing. [What is with this kid? Is he some kind of puritan moslem?] Jade says, 'Yo pienso que es hermoso que una muer haga sonar su oro,' I think that it is beautiful when a woman has her gold make noise.
Yamil tells Jadiya that her audible jewelry is embarrassing. [What is with this kid? Is he some kind of puritan moslem?] Jade says, 'Yo pienso que es hermoso que una muer haga sonar su oro,' I think that it is beautiful when a woman has her gold make noise. Mohamed and Said think that Jadiya has forgotten about Jade.
Dora invites Daniel to come to the bar with her but he replies that his father, Father Andres and Ali are coming. Sarcastically, Dora asks which 'father' is Daniel talking about. Daniel replies, 'Mi padre es Albieri, así como tú eres mi mamá, aunque no nací de ti,' Albieri is my father just like you are my mother even though you didn't didn't give birth to me. Dora is furious. She cancels her plan to go out and says that she will keep those men from filling Daniel's head up with nonsense.
Daniel is fiddling with a veil and saying, 'Jade'. He reminds Dora of his dream and tells her that how now he can see the woman's face. She is the love of his life and he will marry her. 'You're going to marry a woman you've barely met? asks Dora skeptically.
Jade prays to Allah to protect her from Lucas and all the memories that ruined her life.
Jadiya tells Said that she saw her mother. She says that she wants Jade to come back and Jade does, too. She tells Said that Rania lied; Jade doesn't love the Westerner anymore. Said replies that Jadiya is too young to understand these things.
Little Jadiya can't leave well enough alone. She tells Rania that Jade is coming back and that Rania won't be first wife anymore.
The Chump calls Malicia demanding that she sign the transfer document. 
She blows him off and lies to Pablo about the call. She asks Pablo to take her out for dinner.
She blows him off and lies to Pablo about the call. She asks Pablo to take her out for dinner.The Chump has an infinite power to rationalize what Malicia tells him. He tells Anita that Malicia is refusing to sign to hurt Clara and doesn't realize it is hurting him, too. After he has left the room, Anita tells Julio about how she saw Malicia on the beach with young, hunky Pablo. She doesn't know whether to tell the Chump or not. Julio tells her that a man may forgive an infidelity but he never forgives the friend who told him about it.
Roberto tells Clara that the Chump and Malicia aren't living together in the apartment. That zorra is in the apartment that Escobar bought with my savings? says Clara. Yup, replies Roberto Clara is furious that the Chump would get involved with a woman who is taking him to the cleaners when he calls her stupid. Roberto is called into Leo's office.
Leo asks Roberto what he will do to bring Daniel to him. Roberto suggests getting Dora to agree to an adoption. Leo says that won't be possible. Roberto pretends that he is working on a solution but there is no legal precedent and he needs some time to work out the details. He says that if they go public, Albieri will certainly go to jail and there is no guarantee what the judge would do about Daniel [Listen to what Daniel wants, maybe? He's not a minor.] Leo is not interested in anything but results.
Roberto goes to Enrique for help.
Said finds Rania crying. She asks if it is true that Jade is coming back. Jadiya demands that Said tell Rania that Jade is coming back. Said replies that he hasn't decided yet. Rania reminds Said that he promised that Jade wouldn't return to their house. Said escapes from the confrontation. Jadiya isn't finished. She tells Rania that Jade will come back and all will be as it was before Rania came. She goes further and hopes that Rania has an ugly girl who is an exhibitionist. She also hopes that Allah shortens Rania's days and looks forward to dancing at Rania's funeral. Nice.
Zoraida goes to see Said. He tells her that Jade preferred anything to living with him and now that, 'Alá si la tiene agarrada por el pelo, ahora sí se acuerda de mí,' Allah has grabbed her by the hair, and now she remembers me. Zoraida tells him that Zein wants Jade back.
Cristina can't believe the change in Zein now that he is in love. We need a picture of Zein.
She can't believe that he is waiting around for a woman's decision. At first Cristina says that she is sure that Jade is done with Lucas but then she admits that she isn't sure. She can't predict the end of a romance. Just when you think that it's over, it starts up again.
She can't believe that he is waiting around for a woman's decision. At first Cristina says that she is sure that Jade is done with Lucas but then she admits that she isn't sure. She can't predict the end of a romance. Just when you think that it's over, it starts up again.Marisa tells Leo that Nati stole money from her.
Clara reams out Fernando for blowing his internship opportunity. She tells him to do the report he was assigned and bring it to Carolina with an apology. Fernando screams at her that he is tired of her sermons and of her giving him orders. He leaves.
The three not-so-wise men, Ali, Father Andres and Albieri arrive at Dora's. She warns them that if they have come to tell Daniel that he is a clone, they can turn around and leave. Daniel overhears, '¿Qué dijiste, Mama?' What did you say, Mama? he asks. Oops.
Dora refuses to let them speak to Daniel. They are about to leave when Dora tells Albieri that she came to his clinic to have a baby and what did he do? He ruined her life. He pursued her for 20 years and never gave her the chance to be a mother. She won't let them hurt her son. Dora almost faints from the intensity of her emotion and Daniel has to help her sit down.
Dora refuses to let them speak to Daniel. They are about to leave when Dora tells Albieri that she came to his clinic to have a baby and what did he do? He ruined her life. He pursued her for 20 years and never gave her the chance to be a mother. She won't let them hurt her son. Dora almost faints from the intensity of her emotion and Daniel has to help her sit down.
Anita tries to make Luisa understand how a woman without much education would react to being told that, in spite of getting pregnant and giving birth, she isn't the child's mother. Anita asks Luisa who Daniel's mother is. Luisa doesn't know how to answer.
Ali tells Dora that as far as he is concerned, she is Daniel's mother. He says that if Albieri was able to create Daniel in a laboratory, it was because Allah permitted it as a warning to humanity. Dora asks what she did to deserve this. She never harmed anyone. Ali replies that this is a test from Allah for her. Meanwhile Father Andres is telling Estela that Dora will get in her reward in heaven and Ali is telling Dora that at the final judgment, Allah will give her credit for her tears. Dora replies that this isn't about God, it's about Dr. Albieri. Like the rest us, Dora is fed up with the theology. She announces that she believes God made a miracle with her son. She doesn't want to hear anything more. She says that she is Daniel's mother and she vows that no one will take him from her.
Enrique complains that Leo prefers Roberto's counsel to his and he has been stigmatized for being a former drug addict. Carolina tells him that she is there for him. Enrique tells her that he prepared the documents for the case [did we miss something here?] and Roberto only signed them. Carolina thinks that it is unfair that Roberto is getting credit for work that Enrique did. Enrique drones on about how he should be punished or some such thing. Clara calls Carolina about what has happened with Fernando. She says that it is affecting her relationship with Rogelio. Meanwhile Enrique is showing why he shouldn't be trusted by taking a hit on his flask. Carolina realizes that for Leo to prove that he is Daniel's father, he will have to show that Dora is not the mother.
Outside, Albieri is trying to explain to Daniel how he was conceived and put it in a good light - it's a new way of being born (es una forma nueva de nacer) he says. [That's wrong, of course. It's a new way of being conceived. Daniel was born the usual way.] As usual, Daniel is interested in paternity. Albieri tells him that if a DNA test were done, Leonardo would be his father and his dead wife, his mother. Daniel is destrozado.
'No tengo padre. No tengo madre. No tengo familia, I have no father. I have no mother. I have no family, says Daniel. Albieri says that isn't true. 'Soy sólo una copia de una persona que tú querías mucho,' I am only a copy of a person that you loved a lot, says Daniel. 'I thought you were my father but you made me a laboratory like the scientists in movies who make monsters. Albieri protest that Daniel isn't a monster.
Daniel says that he thought that Dora and Albieri had had a fling and that Albieri was his father. 'No soy hijo de nadie,' I'm not anyone's son, says Daniel sadly. 
He shakes off Albieri and runs away.
Daniel says that he thought that Dora and Albieri had had a fling and that Albieri was his father. 'No soy hijo de nadie,' I'm not anyone's son, says Daniel sadly. 
He shakes off Albieri and runs away.The credits roll.
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To Jean:
I found this picture from Sandra's twitter collection showing that episode #160 is the last one.
Here's the link:
http://twitpic.com/27g1hu
I found this picture from Sandra's twitter collection showing that episode #160 is the last one.
Here's the link:
http://twitpic.com/27g1hu
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: Tuesday, August 31, 2010 at 9:40:00 AM EDT
: Tuesday, August 31, 2010 at 9:40:00 AM EDT
Thanks very much, Jean, for another great recap. I especially appreciated the Spanish, since it included a couple of phrases that had puzzled me.
I'm am so ready for this TN to come to an end. The writers seem to be using the module method of writing. "OK, let's insert Module A [Enrique's rant] here." "Let's put Module B [Jade blames Lucas for everything] here." "Time for Module C [Enrique's PSA] here." "Let's throw in Module D [Latifa's fear that Mohamed will take a second wife]." Etc. etc. etc. Sigh.
Jean, I think we did have an indication that Enrique prepared the documents for Roberto. Didn't Roberto go to Enrique asking for help? I remember the very smug look of pleasure on Enrique's face when this occurred.
Earlier in the TN, I found Jadiyah cute but somewhat insufferable. When she was so unhappy, I wasn't so aware of her insufferability, but last night's episode made it clear that she hasn't lost her talent. On the one hand, I understand that she's acting as she is because she misses her mother and resents Rania, but still....Jade better watch out what she wishes for: I can see Jadiyah as a really obnoxious teenager making her mother's life miserable when she (Jadiyah) doesn't get her way.
I'm am so ready for this TN to come to an end. The writers seem to be using the module method of writing. "OK, let's insert Module A [Enrique's rant] here." "Let's put Module B [Jade blames Lucas for everything] here." "Time for Module C [Enrique's PSA] here." "Let's throw in Module D [Latifa's fear that Mohamed will take a second wife]." Etc. etc. etc. Sigh.
Jean, I think we did have an indication that Enrique prepared the documents for Roberto. Didn't Roberto go to Enrique asking for help? I remember the very smug look of pleasure on Enrique's face when this occurred.
Earlier in the TN, I found Jadiyah cute but somewhat insufferable. When she was so unhappy, I wasn't so aware of her insufferability, but last night's episode made it clear that she hasn't lost her talent. On the one hand, I understand that she's acting as she is because she misses her mother and resents Rania, but still....Jade better watch out what she wishes for: I can see Jadiyah as a really obnoxious teenager making her mother's life miserable when she (Jadiyah) doesn't get her way.
Fabulous job, as always, Jean! I especially like the "three not so wise men" swooping down on Dora's apartment.
Juanita, I also thought Roberto's asking Enrique for help was the marker for Enrique's later reference to his doing work without getting credit. But I suspect there was a scene or two cut out that would have shown him doing this work. "Menos mal", you say? Well, yeah, but they could have done it in a few seconds-- the two together in a book-lined study, a line or two of dialogue -- just for clarity's sake.
Daniel's scene with Albieri was beautifully written and played, I thought -- simple and stark and sad.
Rania's Unhappy Birthday Party reminded me of Marisa's years ago. Remember when Marisa took Lucas's "Jade talisman" (the jade necklace) and wore it defiantly at her party? Didn't work out too well for her, did it? Well Rania was tempting fate by flaunting Said's "Jade talisman" (the gold veil) at her party.
Yes, Jadiya was horrible to Rania but no more horrible than Rania has been to her. Jadiya has good reason to feel as she does.
Jean, Jamil did sound prudish last night when he scolded Jadiya about her clinking gold. But I see him more as a Zein in the making. He seems to know very little about Islam; his point of view is strictly occidental. Maybe his parents keep up appearances in the local Muslim community for the sake of business (apparently Said is important in his invisible negocios). I wouldn't be surprised if Jamil somehow led the truly prudish Jadiya astray.
Juanita, I also thought Roberto's asking Enrique for help was the marker for Enrique's later reference to his doing work without getting credit. But I suspect there was a scene or two cut out that would have shown him doing this work. "Menos mal", you say? Well, yeah, but they could have done it in a few seconds-- the two together in a book-lined study, a line or two of dialogue -- just for clarity's sake.
Daniel's scene with Albieri was beautifully written and played, I thought -- simple and stark and sad.
Rania's Unhappy Birthday Party reminded me of Marisa's years ago. Remember when Marisa took Lucas's "Jade talisman" (the jade necklace) and wore it defiantly at her party? Didn't work out too well for her, did it? Well Rania was tempting fate by flaunting Said's "Jade talisman" (the gold veil) at her party.
Yes, Jadiya was horrible to Rania but no more horrible than Rania has been to her. Jadiya has good reason to feel as she does.
Jean, Jamil did sound prudish last night when he scolded Jadiya about her clinking gold. But I see him more as a Zein in the making. He seems to know very little about Islam; his point of view is strictly occidental. Maybe his parents keep up appearances in the local Muslim community for the sake of business (apparently Said is important in his invisible negocios). I wouldn't be surprised if Jamil somehow led the truly prudish Jadiya astray.
to Anonymous 9:40 - Ojalá
I didn´t express myself clearly in the recap. I saw the scene where Roberto asks Enrique for help but as NovelaMaven pointed out, there were probably some omitted scenes of them discussing the issue or whatever before we have Enrique complaining that he did all the work and Roberto signed the documents.
I agree that the scene with Daniel and Albieri was done very well.
I wish Marisa had taken the opportunity to at least talk to Alej when he came to the house. Her desire to help Nati should have overcome her dislike of Alej at least a little bit. She should realize that she, Lucas and Alej are going to have to work together to bring Nati out of this.
I thought Jadiya was behaving exactly the way a spoiled little girl would.
You may be right that Yamil is going to convince Jadiya to adopt a more secular or Western attitude. I´m just not sure that a Westernized 10 or 11 year old kid would think that wearing a lot of gold jewelry was so offensive. After all, he was wearing the hat thingy and a robe, I believe. Qué verguenza!
I didn´t express myself clearly in the recap. I saw the scene where Roberto asks Enrique for help but as NovelaMaven pointed out, there were probably some omitted scenes of them discussing the issue or whatever before we have Enrique complaining that he did all the work and Roberto signed the documents.
I agree that the scene with Daniel and Albieri was done very well.
I wish Marisa had taken the opportunity to at least talk to Alej when he came to the house. Her desire to help Nati should have overcome her dislike of Alej at least a little bit. She should realize that she, Lucas and Alej are going to have to work together to bring Nati out of this.
I thought Jadiya was behaving exactly the way a spoiled little girl would.
You may be right that Yamil is going to convince Jadiya to adopt a more secular or Western attitude. I´m just not sure that a Westernized 10 or 11 year old kid would think that wearing a lot of gold jewelry was so offensive. After all, he was wearing the hat thingy and a robe, I believe. Qué verguenza!
Jean, you're right that Jamil is off-kilter. Now I may be giving the writers too much credit, but his words sounded like he was parroting an adult. Also, remember his absurdly world-weary bitter response to Amin's expressed desire to get married and cover his wife with gold? He said something like: "Oh yeah, she'll take your gold and then she'll leave you!" I suspect Jamil's father has had an unfortunate Princess Experience.
Yes, Marisa's reaction to Alej was shocking, but it shouldn't have been. She is the same self-centered snob she has always been; only now she's in pain.
By the way, I felt Clara's worry that her problems with Fernando were interfering with her relationship with Rogelio was foreshadowing their break-up. Malicia is not finished torturing Clara. Somehow she is going to turn Rogelio against her, telling him she's a bad mother or something. And then Malicia will then be his dance partner (for a while). Pablo doesn't yet know how fortunate he is that his days with Malicia are numbered. And as for Rogelio, after he fired Cris he lost my sympathy so I won't be too sad to see him Maliciated.
Yes, Marisa's reaction to Alej was shocking, but it shouldn't have been. She is the same self-centered snob she has always been; only now she's in pain.
By the way, I felt Clara's worry that her problems with Fernando were interfering with her relationship with Rogelio was foreshadowing their break-up. Malicia is not finished torturing Clara. Somehow she is going to turn Rogelio against her, telling him she's a bad mother or something. And then Malicia will then be his dance partner (for a while). Pablo doesn't yet know how fortunate he is that his days with Malicia are numbered. And as for Rogelio, after he fired Cris he lost my sympathy so I won't be too sad to see him Maliciated.
Finally, someone (Jade) told Jadiya what I wanted her to hear. Sheesh, writers!
Daniel’s enlightenment was indeed necessary, but it was like a nightmare come true; I’ve been super-preocupada about his feelings for some months now. Pues, me dolió mucho para ver esa escena última. I’m wringing my hands over what he might do now, tan nerviosa para él.
If Nati doesn’t get some professional help this week, I’ll eat my hat. Ya me cansé de su toxicomanía. Las escenas están como “plot molasses.” ¡Que esas PSAs de Enrique se paren también! Oh my gosh…
Daniel’s enlightenment was indeed necessary, but it was like a nightmare come true; I’ve been super-preocupada about his feelings for some months now. Pues, me dolió mucho para ver esa escena última. I’m wringing my hands over what he might do now, tan nerviosa para él.
If Nati doesn’t get some professional help this week, I’ll eat my hat. Ya me cansé de su toxicomanía. Las escenas están como “plot molasses.” ¡Que esas PSAs de Enrique se paren también! Oh my gosh…
Excellent recap, Jean.
Yes, there was a lot of repetitive stuff last night. It doesn't appear that Alej is ever going to get the memo that the only thing that will save Nati is rehab. He's gone long past his earlier "this is the last time" and isn't even saying that any more.
I was disappointed in Marisa's conclusion about Alej. For one thing, it makes no sense. She knows Nati is doing drugs. Does she really think an addict would give $100 to someone else? It was much more logical to conclude that Alej made up the $100 from his own funds.
Jadiya should stop taunting Rania, but, after all, she is a child. And Rania has been cruel to her.
I think of Jamil as someone who is trying to get Jadiya off her gold obsession. After all, I've wished she'd not be so grasping. So maybe Jamil is trying to wake her up to how this appears. But it seems to be falling on deaf ears.
Zoraida can be very foxy. She wants Jade back with Said and her child. So she knew exactly what to say to Said. The thought of Jade married again, perhaps for good, to another man, will drive Said nuts.
NovelaMaven: excellent word coin: maliciated. I hadn't thought of the witch breaking Clara up with Rogelio. I just thought that was Clara fussing and was unlikely to happen. I hope I'm right. Poor Clara doesn't deserve any more pain than she's already had.
Yes, there was a lot of repetitive stuff last night. It doesn't appear that Alej is ever going to get the memo that the only thing that will save Nati is rehab. He's gone long past his earlier "this is the last time" and isn't even saying that any more.
I was disappointed in Marisa's conclusion about Alej. For one thing, it makes no sense. She knows Nati is doing drugs. Does she really think an addict would give $100 to someone else? It was much more logical to conclude that Alej made up the $100 from his own funds.
Jadiya should stop taunting Rania, but, after all, she is a child. And Rania has been cruel to her.
I think of Jamil as someone who is trying to get Jadiya off her gold obsession. After all, I've wished she'd not be so grasping. So maybe Jamil is trying to wake her up to how this appears. But it seems to be falling on deaf ears.
Zoraida can be very foxy. She wants Jade back with Said and her child. So she knew exactly what to say to Said. The thought of Jade married again, perhaps for good, to another man, will drive Said nuts.
NovelaMaven: excellent word coin: maliciated. I hadn't thought of the witch breaking Clara up with Rogelio. I just thought that was Clara fussing and was unlikely to happen. I hope I'm right. Poor Clara doesn't deserve any more pain than she's already had.
Permalink posted by : Tuesday, August 31, 2010 at 3:09:00 PM EDT
: Tuesday, August 31, 2010 at 3:09:00 PM EDT
Thanks Jean, that was fun, especially the pictures. You even got one of Escobar eating the station logo. And the picture of Marisa holding the money is funny out of context---"Andrew What-son? These things come in 20s? I'll have to remember that for tips."
I also can't quite figure out this Yamil, or more precisely, can't figure out what he's doing around Jadiya. They have nothing in common except the culture, and Yamil isn't even that into it. And I agree with NovelaMaven, he's suspiciously cynical for a kid. He's really pressing his luck to greet his hostess with an insult.
Loved the Albieri/Daniel scene. We're starting to see the real payoff of the clone story. I also thought the preceding scene with Alí and Andrés was fairly good, with those guys being appropriately sympathetic. I don't think it worked much for Dora though, because (understandably) she sees almost everyone as her enemy now.
Also, while Albieri was wrong that cloning is a new way of being born, I'm not sure it's a new way of being conceived, either. If conception is when a sperm and egg combine, then Daniel's conception was about 40 years ago, and he shares it with Lucas and Diego. On the other hand, conception might be the production of the first cell of the organism, in which case cloning is a new way to do it. I'm assuming Albieri transplanted only a nucleus from Lucas's cell into Dora's egg. This means Daniel has Dora's mitochondria (which have their own DNA), and so is part-Dora after all.
I also can't quite figure out this Yamil, or more precisely, can't figure out what he's doing around Jadiya. They have nothing in common except the culture, and Yamil isn't even that into it. And I agree with NovelaMaven, he's suspiciously cynical for a kid. He's really pressing his luck to greet his hostess with an insult.
Loved the Albieri/Daniel scene. We're starting to see the real payoff of the clone story. I also thought the preceding scene with Alí and Andrés was fairly good, with those guys being appropriately sympathetic. I don't think it worked much for Dora though, because (understandably) she sees almost everyone as her enemy now.
Also, while Albieri was wrong that cloning is a new way of being born, I'm not sure it's a new way of being conceived, either. If conception is when a sperm and egg combine, then Daniel's conception was about 40 years ago, and he shares it with Lucas and Diego. On the other hand, conception might be the production of the first cell of the organism, in which case cloning is a new way to do it. I'm assuming Albieri transplanted only a nucleus from Lucas's cell into Dora's egg. This means Daniel has Dora's mitochondria (which have their own DNA), and so is part-Dora after all.
Thank you due to Jean, of course, and thoughtful commenters as well. I thought Dora was splendid last night. Daniel too. Saw comment in Telenovela World forum from Samuel Cordero, who watched both Clons. I pass ir on here because I heartedly agree:
"As for Mauricio, there's no doubt that he's pound for pound the best actor in the whole novela. Mauricio's participation will go down as one of the best casting coupes off all time."
"As for Mauricio, there's no doubt that he's pound for pound the best actor in the whole novela. Mauricio's participation will go down as one of the best casting coupes off all time."
Permalink posted by : Tuesday, August 31, 2010 at 4:09:00 PM EDT
: Tuesday, August 31, 2010 at 4:09:00 PM EDT
Thanks all for the great comments! Loved the Module method of writing,, Maliciated..
Andrew What-son?..greeting your hostess with an insult and Dora's mitochondria!!!!
Andrew What-son?..greeting your hostess with an insult and Dora's mitochondria!!!!
Jean great recap and thanks so much.
Juanita i like how you think about the writers maybe they shouldn't have extended this if they were going to do this.
Great scene with Dora and Ali and the father and Estella, but it was definitely topped by the Albieri and Daniel scene and knowledge of how he was created.
NovelaMaven great point about Jadiya being horrible to Rania like Rania has been to her.Also loved your new made up word Maliciated.
Let's hope that Clara has had enough of the malicious one and tells all her troubles to Rogelio about that nasty little skank. I hope she doesn't get off lightly with what she has done either.
Juanita i like how you think about the writers maybe they shouldn't have extended this if they were going to do this.
Great scene with Dora and Ali and the father and Estella, but it was definitely topped by the Albieri and Daniel scene and knowledge of how he was created.
NovelaMaven great point about Jadiya being horrible to Rania like Rania has been to her.Also loved your new made up word Maliciated.
Let's hope that Clara has had enough of the malicious one and tells all her troubles to Rogelio about that nasty little skank. I hope she doesn't get off lightly with what she has done either.
Permalink posted by : Tuesday, August 31, 2010 at 7:00:00 PM EDT
: Tuesday, August 31, 2010 at 7:00:00 PM EDT
Anon 4:09: Yes, Mauricio Ochmann is great. He's the reason I started watching this show, and I continue to enjoy his scenes. On a show where an actor plays multiple roles, you really need somebody talented, and he pulls off both of them very well (he also did well with Diego). It's too bad one of the main stories in this novela (the Lucas/Jade love romance) is hard for many of us to enjoy, because if not for that, I think we'd be singing Mauricio's praises more often. (Probably likewise for Sandra Echeverría, who is clearly also talented).
Jean: and thanks to you (and NovelaMaven) for the hard work that helps foster these fun conversations!
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Jean: and thanks to you (and NovelaMaven) for the hard work that helps foster these fun conversations!
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