Tuesday, November 30, 2010

Eva Luna #18 Mon 11/29/10 Eva Come Back!


Daniel’s extravagant display of mea culpa has left Eva's boarding house a regular botanical garden. Alicia reads the note that came with the bouquetsand tells Eva and the others it all came from Daniel.

Over at Dan’s, Laurita tells Daniel that she overheard him talking with Leonardo earlier and knows that Eva left Victoria's house after a fight with her daddy. After scolding her for listening to other people's conversations, he explains that he didn't send Eva the flowers because they are dating. He's still dating Icky-Vicky, much to Laurita's (and Viewerville’s) well-known dismay. Dan notes the momentary nose squinch and sighs.

All of Justa’s boarders agree that Daniel is crazy-- crazy in luuvvv with Eva. She begins to read the note he sent along just as Justa answers the doorbell and finds Beatriz there to return her driver's license she forgot the other day. They make a date to meet for coffee later. Justa confides to Bea that nobody there knows her past and that she wants to keep it that way.

Eva’s eyes are moist and she chokes up (could be due to allergic reaction to Dan’s memory) as she reads the note on the card:

"These flowers aren't flowers. They're apologies from me because it’s my fault you decided to leave the house and your job. That's your decision and I suppose the healthiest thing is for us not to see each other again. But I only suppose so because I am not sure of it. Because I didn't know which flowers you liked I decided to send you all of them and hope I hit upon one at least that you like. I'm giving you my cell number if you should need it for anything. Right now I'm feeling a terrific sense of nostalgia, nostalgia over you.
--Daniel."

Meanwhile, Laurita tells Dan that she knows he's interested in Eva as well as Ick-toria and that Eva is the one he should be dating. (Whatever this little girl has you need to bottle it and sell it, bud! You might get a clue if your brain hadn’t apparently short-circuited somewhere below the waist recently.) Dan frowns cuz deep down he agrees but can’t bring himself to accept it.

Icky Vicky and Claudia are toning up their skeleton frames at the gym by working out. They try giving their pea brains a work-out also as Claw asks what Icky thinks made Eva quit all of a sudden. Icky says she doesn't know or care, but she is upset that now she doesn't have Eva to do all the little things for her she used to. Icky asks Claw how things are going with Leo. Claw says fine cuz they aren't fighting anymore. Ick says that's because she's reconciled to a semi-relationship. Claw takes exception and says she's going slowly and letting things develop. Claw changes the subject and asks if there's still a problem with Maritza. Icky says there was, but the problem's taken care of.

At Marcela's, Renata and she are discussing their relief that “order and discipline” have returned to the house. Yep. They’re happy a pigs in slop now that Eva's gone. Marcy says she's going to find a regular nurse for Don Julio now. Renata continues talking trash about Eva as Leo appears. He corrects her and finishes her statement: “—The girl made the house more enjoyable.” Renata sniffs and says she's well aware of the masculine opinion around there. Leo asks his mama if she really is sure she wants to get a nurse and forget about Eva because his daddy doesn't want that. Marcy says she doesn't care a whit what D.J. wants. She'll do it her way and that is that! D. Julio surprises everyone just then by walking in using his cane and having the last word. "--We'll see about that, Marcela!"

Back at Eva's, Alicia is telling her that if this isn't LOVE she doesn't know what is. Marisol adds that if she were in Eva's shoes she wouldn't think twice of running after this guy and sticking to him like glue. "--Guys like that one aren't born every day!" Eva goes momentarily ballistic. "--Flowers or not, the guy doesn't exist as far as I'm concerned!" She storms out of the room. Justa comes back in and asks what's up. The other two tell her Eva's just “hopelessly in love”.

Back at the manse, Leo and Mad Malevolent Mama exclaim that they can't believe Julio’s actually walking by himself. Julio warns them that there'll be a lot more surprises around there if Eva doesn't come back again. Leo offers to look for her but D.Julio says nothin' doin'!! He wants Marcela to do it herse’f. Of course, Mad Marcy refuses. He threatens her and says she will or else he'll close down the publicity agency. She tells him she can't believe” a simple employee would turn him against her this way.” He says it's Marcela herself who has done it by always doing the opposite of what he wants. So, she will get Eva back because she knows what he's capable of if she doesn't! (Bravo! About time somebody puts the broad in her place! Might as well make the b!tch as unhappy as possible if he can’t get her to sign those damned divorce papers.) He leaves.

At the boarding house Tony looks around the living room and takes the ever-present Tootsie Pop out of his mouth long enough to make some crack to the others about the house looking like a jungle or a funeral parlor or something. Nobody seems to appreciate his sense of humor though.

Back at Marcy Manor, Icky and Leo are chatting now that she's back from the gym-trim. Leo tells her that Dan's about to set a date for their wedding. “—Why do you say that?” Because everything comes in time, Leo answers. Icky isn't so sure, she says, since Dano hates to even discuss the subject with her. Leo promises to help her with that problem. (Viewerville knows where this is leading. Tony, call your office!)

At the same time, Don Ricardo and Adrian are walking together either to or from school. Suddenly Adrian thinks he sees his father further down the street and nearly gets run over running across the street to catch up to him. By the time he and Don Ricky get to the spot, the man's gone.

That evening at the strip club, Marisol tries to make a payment on the debt she owes to Damian but he refuses to accept anything but payment in full. They grouse with each other over Francisco and she tells Damian that Franc wasn't a client. He was just a friend. Damian sneers cuz, I guess, hookers don’t have “friends”.

Speaking of Franc, he sees Dano knocking down whiskey in the den; he decides to have another heart-to heart with his boozing boss to see how it went with Eva. Dan tells him what a fiasco it was and that as much as he tried to clear things up, the only thing she made clear was that she wanted him to leave her alone. He admits he can't forget her even though he knows he should. Anyway, he couldn't help acting like a fool in front of her. Franc politely suggests that when somebody keeps acting like an idiot it's because you're more in love than you thought. (Tell Dan something he doesn't know, Franc! ‘Course we probably should cut Dano some slack since it’s obviously been a couple or so decades since he was bit by the Love Bug thingy.)

Back in the dressing room at the strip club, Damian threatens Marisol with telling the truth about her if she doesn't continue to remember that he’s still gives the orders around there. He makes the point by knocking her around again.

Eva, meanwhile, takes another look at the card from Daniel and goes into pining and whining mode.

Ictoria stops by at Dan’s after dinner. First thing out of her mouth is the reason he seems so distant and whether it’s due to some female horning in on her again. Ictoria asks if there was something between him and Maritza or not. He assures her there was never anything between Maritza and him, and neither is it due to somebody he might have met at the Country Club. Dan is a bit miffed but he keeps the miff muffled. All of a sudden his cell rings. It's Eva. She is almost too frightened to speak but eventually does. She tells him to forget about flowers and letters. It was a nice gesture and the flowers are pretty, but like always, she does not believe him. "--If you want to be forgiven, then you are, but please don't send a single flower more! What's it going to take to make you understand? Just please forget about me! Well, That's it. Good-night." Click.

As if Daniel wasn't already down in the dumps, now Eva slams him with this. He lies to Ictoria when the female hound dog starts sniffing at his tail again. He tells a half-truth about the call being “unfinished business”. Ok. Her frown melts away and she hints that she wants them to make love upstairs in his bedroom since she knows that Laurita is spending the night at a friend's house. (I wouldn’t expect too much. The guys been slurping down Scotch all evening, but he’s got a point to make to himself now that Eva’s lowered the hammer on him.)

Speaking of Eva, she still sitting alone in the living room weeping to herself about having fallen in love with the dapper Daniel. “--Why did it have to happen? Why?” (Viewerville sheds half a tear-drop for her cuz it figures Marisol pretty much got it right and the meek always come in last.)

Across town, Tony and Leo are meeting in the office of the casino. Leo tells him he was thinking of having him follow somebody, but he's not sure yet that he can trust Tony. Leo who still seems uncomfortable playing Don Corleone, will take care of it himself for now since it's something personal anyway. Tony smiles and teases Leo about personal business generally being someone with a great pair of legs. Leo says she's more than a pair of legs: she's divine and very difficult to win over.

It seems poor, wimped-out Carlos, in the meantime, has decided to drink away his sorrows at the strip club Marisol works at. She tries to hit him up for a drink and then realizes it's Carlos. They start chatting and Marisol wonders if it's just her or doesn’t Carlos really have a thing for Alicia? He doesn't want to admit it, but they sort of come to an understanding about it. She notices the broken arm and asks if that was courtesy of Tony, considering he has a thing for Alicia also. Marisol then buys him a drink and gives him a little bit of advice. It’s to tell Alicia how he feels --and the sooner the better; but Carlos admits that he always feels like such a fool around Alicia and has the worst time putting anything into words. (Carlos really does wimpy well, ya know?) Marisol takes pity on him and says to think of something special to win her over, whatever that might be, because Alicia’s a really good girl and deserves a guy like Carlos “much more than trash like Tony.” She than tells him that nobody at the boarding house knows she works there, especially Alicia and she’s hoping he will stay quiet about it. He agrees not to say a word to anybody. They become fast friends and the working girl leaves to attend to business.

Back at the manse, the malicious Marcy, still upset with Julio's earlier threats, is now mixing a double dose of medicine into Julio's bedtime tea and expecting this will kill him once and for all. "--And tomorrow morning I will do exactly what I want with your money!" She takes him the tea. First thing he wants to know is if she's sent for Eva. Marcy says she will first thing in the morning. He ribs her about how quickly she can get to things when cutting off her finances is involved. She hands him his medicinal tea. He takes the cup from her and proceeds to dump it onto the carpet. Marcy screams bloody murder at him for dumping out his medicine. (In fact she goes so bonkers screaming about how necessary it is for him to take his medicine that D. J. has got to be getting suspicious by now.) Don Julio tells her he doesn't want to take anything coming from her --or from Renata, for that matter. In fact, he’s on strike and refuses to take anymore medicine until Eva is back and gives it to him personally.

Meanwhile, Adrian is crying his eyes out and refusing to eat his supper. Ricardo tells Justa about the incident earler that day. Rick has developed a deep affection for Adrian, he admits, and he can't imagine what he would do if his father reappeared and took the boy away from him.

Up in Dano's bedroom, Ictoria starts a sexy strip for Dan. Dan tries to get into the mood but he begins to imagine Eva undressing for him instead of Icky Vicky. Suddenly he realizes what's happening and that he just can't get it to stand to attention for Ictoria no matter what. He begs off. Ictoria flies into a rage. “—You can’t treat a woman like this! How can you humiliate me this way?” She swears that it has to be another woman. He actually comes out and asks so what if it was? Icky icily reminds him that she won't allow another woman to come near him. "--I'd kill both you and her because nobody makes a fool of me!" He gripes at her for always thinking of herself and that her only concern is that somebody's trying to make a fool of her when instead she should be telling him how much she loves him as the reason. (Get a clue Dano. You’ve got a paper-doll cut-out for a girlfriend.)

The next morning Justa and Bea meet for coffee. It seems they are good friends again. Bea asks what ever happened to her and Julio Arismendi's baby she was carrying. (Duhn-duhn-duhnnn!)

At the same time, Eva heads out to look for work. Marcela's driver drives up just as Eva walks out the gate; he tells her Marcela wants her to come back to work for her that very day. She tells him to tell Marcy to forget she exists. No way she is going to return to work for that woman again.

At the cafe, Justa explains to Bea that Julio didn't know she was pregnant and that her sister convinced her that it would be best if she just went away. She didn't tell Julio any of this because she knew he'd decided to marry Marcela and Justa didn't want him to feel obligated. “—Ah! He was the love of my life.....” Anyway, she went off and had her little girl. However, the baby was stillborn.

At the manse again, Bruno tells Vicky and Marcy that Vicky’s going to be on the front cover of the first issue of their magazine and that they’ve got a terrific photography team. Icky complains about not having Eva to help her now, but add that Claw agreed to help her today and that she's asked her to work there for the (new) modeling company. Marcy of course turns up her nose at any mention of Eva's name.

Back at the café, Justa tells Bea that she had a nervous breakdown after her baby was born and that she was interned in a mental hospital for years, completely alone, where they kept her fully drugged. Bea asks her then what about her sister?

We beam back to the manse as Renata serves D. Julio his lunch. He asks her if Marcy has sent for Eva yet. Renata says yes, she's in the middle of working on it. He notices that Renata doesn't care much for Eva either. Renata answers that she can't understand how he allowed himself to be won over by her so easily. He mentions it is just that it's been years since he met somebody so decent and who would genuinely care for him that way. He adds that she almost reminds him of her sister who, we learn seconds later, is--duhn-duhn-duhnnnn--Doña Justa!

Justa now answers bea’s question about her sister, saying that Renata never returned for her. It was as if she was dead to her or something. The whole experience was like a long nightmare and even to this day the memories of that time in her life torment her.

Renata now answers Julio’s question by saying that Eva and her sister both left him high and dry. Julio says nope, two different situations. He was the one who ran off, not Justa. He became emotionally involved and then left her high and dry. Renata tells him it was just something he did to forget about the death of his first wife and that marrying Justa would have been a disaster. Julio accuses her of possibly having been jealous of Justa. He asks if Renata never heard from her again. Renata says she only knows what he knows: that she died in the ruins of the place she was living in during a terrible earhquake.

Justa is apparently telling Bea the same story, but with a different ending. Nothing happened to her, but there she was, homeless, peso-less, walking the streets.

Claw, meanwhile is at the photo shoot helping Icky out. She leaves to get her some water. Vicky calls out a few minutes later for help with her dress but Claw's nowhere around. Vicky tries zipping it up but only gets it on half-way. Suddenly Bruno is there behind her to zip it up, which he does with a very provocative touch. Icky feels icky having him paw her this way and tells him next time to let her know when he's coming in. Bruno gives her an oily smile. Claw returns and Vicky mentions to Bruno she's asked her to come work there with them now. Bruno tells Claw he thinks that's great. (Hmm. Seems Bruno must think this modeling company idea was a whale of a winner and should be a great place to work--with plenty of babe bennies for a lech like him.)

Leo enters work and sees Dan's red Ferari parked outside again. He immediately thinks back to the accident he had with it when he killed Eva's father.

Meanwhile, Eva lands a trial for the day as a waitress; Leo goes to chat with Dan in his office; Marcy's driver informs her that Eva refuses to work for her again.

Leo mentions the car being back to Dan. Dan's just riding it around to keep the battery charged per Franc’s suggestion. Leo notices that Dan still seems preoccupied and asks if it's due to Eva.

Marcy sits in front of her bedroom mirror and plans her strategy to deal with the Julio and Eva problem.

Leo advises Dano to forget about Eva. Sure they shared a passing fancy for her, but she split and they'll never see her again now. So they might as well both forget about her. “She played the two of us and got the better of us.” They almost lost their friendship over it, explains Leo. Naw, best to forget her and leave her in the dust, he adds. --And Dan needs to “start concentrating on his relationship with Vicky” and set a date for their wedding cuz it’s obvious Dan realizes the only real woman for him is his sister.

A bit later, Dan parks the car in the parking lot right outside the restaurant window where Eva started working. He goes into another place; a couple minutes later he jumps in the car and starts to drive off. Eva notices the car just as it pulls out of the parking lot and she races outside after it but it's already sped off down the road.

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Terrific recap, Jardinera! You covered everything with flair and snark. I especially enjoyed "You might get a clue if your brain hadn’t apparently short-circuited somewhere below the waist recently" and "Icky Vicky and Claudia are toning up their skeleton frames." Skeleton except for Icky's butt, of course, though I didn't notice her bountiful butt as much as usual. You think she had a buttectomy?

And ITA with your remarks about Daniel. How can he stay with IV when he realizes that she cares only about herself and wants him only because she's afraid of being laughed at, rather than because she loves him.

I'm delighted to see that the telenovela writers are making me eat crow for complaining that this novela was so formulaic and predictable. Well, it IS formulaic, but I was surprised and happy with the development between Justa and Beatriz and, of course, Justa's history with Don Julio. So do you think Justa's baby was really stillborn? Just about every time someone makes such a claim, it turns out that either they're trying to cover up what really happened or else other people deceived them about their baby's fate. I'm betting her daughter is still alive and is....but I won't tell :-) .
 

Jardinera654,
Great recap you got every little juicy bit from this TN. ?'s I have is Leo going to have Tony following Eva (b/c he wanted him to follow a beautiful women but not yet, b/c maybe he couldn't trust Tony yet.) Last nite was very informative such as Don Julio knows Marecla and Renata(more M than R) are working together to try and off him. Also what's up the Dano, it looks like little Laurita has more common since than old Dano,at least where Eva is concerned. Ok I 've got ?'s again is Marcela Eva & Alicia's mother, and if so that's makes Leo & Icky Vicky there siblings. Marecla and Renata stole Vicky!! WOW BRAVO to Don Julio for finally getting Marcela to bend to his will, be threatening to cut her money off. Michele in PA
 

Jardinera- Wonderful recap! Things are finally starting to happen in this novela, so much so that I had a hard time deciding between it and Aurora last night. I did a lot of flipping back and forth and had difficulty leaving one for the other. That has not been a problem the last few weeks, and Aurora has won out almost every time.

Eva saw the car again. Yay! Eva will soon think Dan killed her papa. Boo!

Good on Don Julio for fighting back against Marcy and Renata. But Eva really shouldn't return to that house. I could see Marcy accusing her of the crime once she finally succeeds in killing Julio. Although with only Eva prepping his food and drink, he will stop ingesting poison and being so sick and will continue to get stronger. Plus, that just puts her back in the middle of the Dan-Vicky-Leo mess. I can totally understanding her running away from that situation. Anyway, I would much rather she get a good job in the ad agency if she's going to be part of that messy triangle, than some lowly maid that can be bossed around, even by Renata. I'm sure that's where this is all going eventually.

Juanita- It was already revealed in a conversation a few episodes ago between Marcy and Renata that they stole Vicky as a baby, and then the very next scene was of Justa. So now it's pretty evident that Vicky is really Julio's blood child by Justa. That must mean redemption is in the cards for Vicky right? They wouldn't have Justa find her daughter, only to have that daughter turn out to be a witch.
 

Michele- Vicky and Leo are not blood siblings, although they think they are half sibs I believe. Marcy came into the marriage with Leo, who knows Julio is his step father who adopted him. Vicky is Justa's and Julio's blood child.

What I don't know, and maybe someone saw an episode that cleared this up, does Julio think Marcy was pregnant with Vicky, or did they "adopt" Vicky together and just never told her she was adopted. The other option is that Marcy faked a pregnancy and then stole Justa's baby to pass it off as hers and Julios.

We still don't know who Eva and Alicia's mom is. They hinted it was someone in that house. The ages of Leo, Vicky, Eva and Alicia would make that all very convoluted. Why would she take Leo to her new life and not the girls? Plus, Alicia at least, is younger than Vicky, so that doesn't make sense. She would have taken Vicky, ahving already started her life with Julio, and then gone back and had Alicia? I'm leaning towards Renata being their mom, since Eva's and Alicia's dad knew Justa and took them to her specifically, and the two of them kept talking about the girls' mother and the secret. It would make sense that Justa is their aunt. Renata seems like the type would would give up her whole life and family to be near the man she's obsessed with/loves- Julio.
 

I saw your title and immediately the 1980's song "Baby Come Back" started going through my head, but with Eva thrown into the Baby line. Now I can't make it go away!

Thanks for the fun recap Jardinera. Love how you dish on Icky and Claw. The work-out at the gym was hysterical - not a drop of sweat to be seen!

I agree with Junaita - such fun to see the new development with Justa, Renata (these two as sisters boggles the mind) and Don J. He must have been some stud once upon a time. So now we play the guessing game of who's the bambino - I'm sort of leaning to Icky Vicky.

Two things to the writers:
- enough with the whiney, lip pouting Eva. Want her gutsy, strong and up for the challenge of fighting for Dan.(before he turns into an alcholic)
- before Tootsie-pop sues as people start turning off buying these things for their kids, neices and nephews( as I caught myself doing this weekend), deep-six the Tony with a constant pop. The beer swishing with said item was the last straw for me last night.
 

Vivi, thanks so much for this info about Marcy and Renata having stolen Vicki. (I think this probably was revealed while I was away for a long weekend. Or perhaps I simply dozed off for a few key moments?) Anyway, that certainly points to Vicki's being Justa's daughter, and yes, it's almost certain that Vicki will therefore be redeemed. There have always been a few signals that she's not hopelessly a perra, such as her seemingly genuine affection for Don Julio. But often those signals get drowned out by all her insufferable qualities.
 

Great recap. Fun read.

So the previews suggest Dan is going to set a wedding date with Icktoria? Qué the heck? He can't stand her so much that he envisions Eva in her place in private moments. Get a clue, Dan. I did like the seduction music much better than the typical telenovela sexophone music.

Tony dipping his lollipop in the beer made me gag. How does he still have teeth?
 

That was getting pretty darn steamy there with the Evan fantasy trip! It was enjoyable seeing Eva dolled up rather than in her humble maid's outfit. And she was a knockout!

Love the description of Victoria as a paper doll - Perfect!

I'm afraid I'm totally unimpressed with the Daniel character. Do you think he'll actually grow a spine? Or even just grow up? I don't have high hopes for this character.

Thanks for the recap - it makes the show much more enjoyable.

"Eva Come Back" LOL! I caught the tune immediately.

Audrey
 

Oh my goodness, Jardinera, what a hoot your recap is! Thank you!

I confess that through the mixed blessing of my new -- and incompletely mastered -- DVD, I have been watching both Aurora and Eva Luna. And alas, I am now hooked on both. (In fact, if you ever need a sub recapper over here, let me know).

This novela is so bad that I can't look away! There's Guy el Guapo just being Guy. And there's the gorgeous Blanca Soto with her unpleasantly high-pitched voice, still in the early classes of Emotional Expression 101; and the nasty Marcela, a malevolent refrigerator of a woman (emotionally and physically)...

And of course there's Victoria:
I have always been somewhat sympathetic to poor little Vicki Bimbutt -- raised by a murderous mama who's not her mama beside a slimeball of a brother who's not her brother; strung along for a 5-year noviazgo by a man who doesn't have the stones to break up with her, even when he develops a strong attraction for someone else. And to top it all off, she has to drag that enormous trasero everywhere she goes, like some sort of weird birth defect. If Justa is really her mother, it would be the first piece of true good fortune in her pathetic life!

Yes, this is real stuff! :)
 

Thanks for the recap Jardinera. I too got that old song in my head.

I'm glad things are getting interesting. I really do hope Don Julio survives Malicious Marcy.

Michele - are you along the northeast extension? I used to work for Bell Atlantic now Verizon and visited offices up in that area.
 

Jardinera. I really enjoyed the scenario you set. It all came back so vividly.

This episode seems to be all about Justa/Julio/Renata and the "hija que nacio muerta." What a tragic story to tell over a cup of coffee out al aire libre.

I'm still holding out for more proof that Eva isn't Justa's daughter.

Point for Eva to be Justa's: She doesn't know her baby survived; her sister left her in the asylum for years; she was penniless on the streets (how did she manage to have a nice building to run a pension with a fountain in the courtyard and suuuch nice furniture--I guess it must have been her blogging skills.) Also, isn't Icky-V is older than Eva? I got from the conversation between Bea and Justa that her pregnancy was about 20 years ago--Eva's age.

Point for either girl to be Justa's: Did we learn whether Justa is really a tia, or just a play aunt to Eva and Alicia. If just a play aunt, then all bets are off. Also, Justa knew Eva's daddy's secret and had been urging him to tell her.

Point against Eva being Justa's: Renata could have paid off Eva's daddy to take the infant. But, how would she have known this guy.

We know that Vicky was brought into the family after Marcella and Julio were married. I think Julio knows she's an adopted child and not Marci's.

The only thing we really know is that Marci brought her son Leo into the marriage. Julio said very recently that he raised Leo and has always treated him as his own.

The scene between Bruno and Vicky was sick-y for Viewerville, but take another look at Vicky's face. After not being able to congress with Dan for awhile, I think Bruno's touch got her interested.
Una Norteamericana
 

I agree that BimButt has it coming... and that Dan should grow a spine half the size of his own daughter's.
Can you guys imagine the drop from a high place that BimButt will have to go through when she learns she is adopted?
My guess as the timeline is Marcela and Renata were on a trip after Marce had come to marry Julio, and that Marce is Eva and Alicia's mom. Their dad gave me the impression that his wife, Eva/Ali's mother, abandoned him to marry a rich guy... so that matches with what we know.
I hope Julio will love long enough to see Justa again. Those two deserve a little time together before it is all over.
That still leaves the mystery of Marce doing away with Dano's parents and wife (maybe she got the wife out of the way to get him to marry Vicky?, but why Dano's parents? because they knew her past or perhaps they were associates/partners in Julio's company?
 

bimbutt the paper doll... LOVE IT!!
 

It seems that Eva and Vicky are around the same age.

If Marcy is Eva and Alicia's mom, then how can Alicia be younger than Vicky, who was stolen/adopted as soon as she was born? Why would she only take Leo to her new life of riches and not her two other daughters too? Why would she go to the trouble to get another daughter to better win Julio's love, instead of just using Eva and/or Alicia?

If Justa is Eva's mom, then who is Alicia's mom? Why would Justa think her one and only child was still born/dead? Why/How would she have a relationship with E&A's dad? Why would she encourage him to tell them about the truth of their mother?

It looks to me like Renata is the only of the three ladies that makes sense. I don't think Eva's dad said she left to "marry" a rich man, just that she left him for a rich man. Plus, that would mean getting a divorce from him first, which I don't think he would have approved and it would have taken some time. Seems like the mother of the girls just up and left him, with no follow-up.
 

Karen Yup Northeastern part of the state 55 miles from NY State.

Is Icky-Vicky younger than Eva?I think Yes she is. I thought the age of all the ninos and ninas were Eva,Vicky,Leo then Alicia.

Una Norteamericana your right about Vicky's face when Bruno was zipping her dress. She was interested in him. LOL

So tonite Dano set's the date (Arrrrrrrrrrgh)(MEN ***SIGH**** & hanging shaking head) that's Leo (the cold blooded Lizzard for you)putting that in Dum Dan's head that everything was going to be ok between him and Icky-Vicky.
 

Leo is older than Vicky, and definitely older than the other girls. He was a little boy when Marcy married Julio. Julio adopted him and has treated him as his own son. Much has been made of this by everyone, including Leo.
 

Alicia is just barely starting college and is likely between ages 18 and 21. They play up how young she is. Leo is not anywhere near that young.
 

Martaivett, your question "Can you guys imagine the drop from a high place that BimButt will have to go through when she learns she is adopted?" I mentally saw her falling, landing on her extraordinary butt, and bouncing back high in the air, as if her butt were a trampoline. Now I can't get that picture out of my head!
 

Juanita LOL now I have the image of bimbutt bouncing, and bouncing on her fake bottom.
michele in PA
 

Jardinera and NovelaMaven, you ladies have me LOL this afternoon. Some of your remarks are priceless.

I get a headache thinking about the possible parentage of the characters. I am going to play Scarlett and think about it tomorrow.

Yes, I think BimButt takes after her mother, she is definitely interested in Bruno.

Rosemary
 

Ah I just had a thought, that is bimbutt is interested in Bruno and Marcela is interested in Bruno. Then the two of them (M &V) will have to kill each other off to have Bruno. Ah that's Bruno plan LOL. Michele in PA
 

Hi y'all! Glad you got a few smiles out of this one.

Manohman! I am dizzy with all the possibilities of who birthed whom and whose mama is really whose and how. This is proving to be a great mystery, guys!

I was pleased to see that Justa and Bea hit it off again--especially so we'd have a way to find out what happened and to confirm Don Julio and D. Justa were definitely an item.

I still am considering Eva as Justa's hija. (Try saying that five times fast! LOL!) My reason is that Eva triggered Julio's memories of Justa and he says her attitude was so similar. "Esta es por verse" I guess.
 

Jardinera, great recap. We sure got alot of information last night, and you captured it all with great witt. Thanks for the fun read.

I am not really certain who birthed who at this point. I am thinking Marcella might have had the stillbirth and her and Renanta swapped the babies out. Don't they do that quite often in these TNs?

I thought that the Eva shower scene/Vicky Danielscene/substitute Eva/Daniel scene was quite the scene. Holy spit!!

The Bruno Vicky deal was sort of wierd but maybe they are going to have a mother/daughter(maybe dayghter?) fight over the same man plot. That should be interesting.

Thanks again Jardinera, for a great recap. All the comments today were so much fun to read.
 

somehow your picturing Bimbutt falling and bouncing around made me remember something. Is it me or does Witchy-mom marce have huge hips and thighs? she reminds me of my aunt (recently passed) who had that feature too lol.
 

my vote is still Justa and Julio are Vicky's natural parents, Eva and Ali are Marce's daughters (which happens to make them Leo's half sisters ... interesting).
 

Thank you for a wonderfully funny and informative recap. I laughed out loud several times. Thank you!

Wow, lots of revelations in this episode!

I am thinking that the writers want us to think that Icky is Justa's daughter, stolen by Renata. The hints are strong in that direction. But who knows, that could be just to throw us off the scent.

I always thought Eva was mid-late 20s. Icky seems mid-late 20s. Or maybe it's just the makeup that makes Icky look at least mid-20s. Eva has a maturity to her that makes her look mid-20s (though I think late 20s maybe—after all the actress is likely in her early 30s).

Plus, I love Guy Ecker and thinks he looks pretty good most of the time, but he looks in his 40s. It's just too icky to have him pairing up with women who are early 20s. The closer to 30 they are, the better, in my mind.

I too wonder how Tony has any teeth left with all that lollypop sucking. Where does he keep them all? His pockets must be stuffed full of spare lollypops, so he won't go through lollypop withdrawal.

I am getting sick of Danno's ambivalence about dumping Vicky. If they don't have him make at least SOME gesture in that direction soon, it's going to be really pushing it. I have a feeling that they are leading in that direction, but it's already dragged on long enough. Daniel, sh*t or get off the pot already!
 

Pata, I agree...Daniel may be wishy-washy, but he does know how to fantasize! It was pretty steamy, and not just from the shower. Kind of fun to see Eva not so timid and withdrawn, even if only in his imagination.
 

so now mad malevolent mama (Love that one!) is in a lose lose situation... Julio won't take his 'medicine' unless it is Eva who spoon feeds it to him, so Madame Cruella will need to go fetch Eva back herself... in order to be able to kill Don J to get his money... and bringing Eva back is not what she had in mind... because if she is right, then Dano and Bimbutt's marriage is in jeopardy if Eva comes back to the house... hmmm!!
 

Yeah! Hmmmm! Love all these various possible scenarios!!!!!!!!!

BTW, yeah, the first thing I thought of when making up the title was the song. Couldn't get it out of my mind, either!

Sorry I can't answer everyone this time personally since I have too much on the activity plate, but your comments are much appreciated and they've all been fun to run with! I definitely want to see that bimbutt bounce from off the hoity-toity pedestal! We can all sing along and follow the bouncing bimbutt. What song do you think it should be?
 

Great post NovelaMaven. ROTFLOL!

Audrey
 

"sing along and follow the bouncing bimbutt"... ha ha ha ha! Hmmm, what song? "You're So Vain"? "Another One Bites the Dust"? "Baby Got Back"?
 

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