Wednesday, January 05, 2011
Triunfo del Amor #2 1/4/11 Osvaldo's Hot. Alvaro's Not. Max is Hot. Alvaro's Still Not.
From yesterday: Bernarda demands to know the father of Victoria’s child and is impactada when Vicky says Juan Pablo is her baby daddy. Flashback over.
WOOT WOOT! Next we see the gorgeous, hot, beautiful, angelic, William Levy showering. Droool.
Tomasa tells Juan Pablo that she needs to tell him something about Victoria. He’s all ears.
Victoria is feeling guilty about not telling Osvaldo anything about her past. She thinks it’s too late to tell him now. Oscar comes in and says it’s never too late to tell the truth. Victoria looks nervous about what he knows.
Juan Pablo asks Tomasa to proceed, but she just ends up saying they’ll never see her again. They both hope she’s okay.
Victoria agrees with Oscar that it’s never too late for the truth. He starts laughing because he didn’t hear anything, and he has no idea what the heck they are talking about. Victoria has a haha, that’s SO not funny look. He kisses both women, and Antonieta tells him that they weren’t talking about anything important. Yeah, nothing important. Just about a relationship based on Victoria’s Secret. Others come into the office for a meeting, and Victoria asks if that’s everyone. Oscar says everyone minus Max. She looks disappointed.
Speaking of Max, the hottie is driving to work.
Victoria tells Oscar to close the office door. She’s talking about doubling the quantity of some clothes, and I don’t know why they all act like it was the best idea ever. Boring work talk.
An old woman gets robbed, and Max nearly runs the thieves over with his car as he tries to help her. He beats the crap out of the villains.
Fire department. Juanjo and his dad (?) are in the bathroom, washing hands and face by the sink. They’re talking about girls, I think.
The police come to arrest the thieves, and Max gives the pobrecita vieja back her purse. Oh, how brave! Lol what a typical hero. She thanks him, and he kisses her and leaves because he has to do something urgently.
Juanjo and his dad are talking about tortas and some girl. Juan Jo tells his dad to shave so his mom will think he looks nice.
Maximiliano has arrived at work. He’s putting his jacket on while running toward the building. He forgets his briefcase, retrieves it, runs inside, is distracted by MANY girls (why oh why couldn't I be one of them?!), but by the time he gets there, Victoria doesn’t let Oscar open the locked door for him. He’s knocking, yelling, and asking Antonieta to let him in through the glass door. Victoria mean mugs him.
Max goes into his office and talks to his friend Fabian. He was only ten minutes late, geesh. What’s the big deal? Fabian tells him that the señora likes punctuality. The señora is going to hear him, Maximiliano declares.
Oscar and Victoria talk about her plans. She likes women to feel confident and such. Oscar admires her. Max comes in, waving a white truce handkerchief. Oscar leaves, and Maximiliano begins to explain, but Victoria doesn’t want to hear it. She says he knows what he means to her, and he says yes, he does. He tries to sweet talk her. She thinks he needs to be responsible because he’s going to run this show some day. He thinks she needs to chill because he’s not just an employee. Yes, he is an employee just like all the others she says as she walks out. He can’t believe ten minutes is such a big deal.
The orphans and nuns are ready for Victoria’s show.
A gal comes in to give Max some papers that his mom sent. She flirts with him. Her name's Lucy, and she asks him out to dinner. They make a 9 o'clock date. She leaves, and Fabian does a you, stud kinda thing. Max says he's having fun, and when he's married, he plans on being faithful to his wife. Fabian is like what--no! really? Max thinks that when he meets the girl for him, he'll change. It sounds kinda like Hal's planned transformation in Henry IV. Anywho, he says there'll be a time when he'll dedicate all his love to one girl.
And now we see Ms. Right. María happily looks around the building. She's one of the orphans, and she looks like a doll. Really, Maite is very cute. The Madre asks María not to get too excited when she sees Victoria, but Marí's not too sure she can gaurantee that. She's always admired Victoria. She promises to be calm and not embarass Madre nonetheless.
Victoria's telling Antonieta that she had to put Maximiliano in his place. Then she goes on about how she should tell Osvaldo that she had a daughter. Antonieta thinks Victoria's tormenting herself. She knows about Victoria's past, and she knows Victoria has looked for her daughter all these years.
Victoria pulls out a doll from her drawer. Antonieta goes on about Victoria's struggles. She investigated, went to orphanages, and all looking for María. There's a picture of a cute little María too. Victoria cries that all her struggles are useless because her daughter's still lost, and she's never going to forget. She can't forgive everyone for all the wrong that they've done her. Antonieta consoles her and tries to change the subject. Why don't they prepare for today's event? Victoria can't get away from her pain. She hugs Antonieta.
Osvaldo's having lunch with Álvaro when a woman comes and asks for an autograph. Of course, Corazon. He tells her not to forget to get Álvaro's autograph. She gets a kiss from Osi, and uncomfortably waits to get Álvaro's autograph. Other girls surround Osvaldo.
Fabian is really confused by what Maximiliano said. He doesn't think Max is capable of falling in love. Max tells him to relax because--he stops and checks out the chick by Fabian's desk. When she's gone, he resumes. Anyways, he's not getting married soon. The girl has to be really special. Fabian doesn't think Maximiliano is ever going to change. Max thinks that hope is something you should never lose.
Max says he needs to catch up on what happened this morning. Fabian doesn't think he's going to like it. Maximiliano looks at a file and says it's absurd. Why is the cloth cheap? He's going to talk to his mom. She's not here, Fab tells him. Well, I'm going to find her; this is is absurd, Max repeats.
Back to Osvaldo and Álvaro. The girls are gone. Álvaro asks if all the attention bothers Osvaldo. Osi loves it. The attention. The kisses. The hugs. It's part of the profession. Álvaro hates it. He thinks his privacy should be respected.
Osvaldo gets a call from a girl in a bikini. He promises that they'll spend time together. She says he's abandoned her, and he gives her kisses over the phone. Álvaro, who was just talking about privacy, looks all up in his business.
The nun points Victoria out to María, and María excitedly calls her name and rushes to talk to her. She tells her how she's always admired her, and she feels lucky to be here with her. She's trembling because she's so excited. She feels incredible, and she has a favor to ask. Victoria looks like she understands why the girl approached her now, but she's wrong. She looks really surprised when María asks to let her kiss and hug her. She doesn't even wait for a response. She just throws her arms around her, smiling in that sweet, innocent, orphan smile that Maite is so good at doing. Victoria is moved, and she looks above with tears in her eyes, and she hugs María.
The nun pulls María back and tells her to give Victoria space. María Desamparrada, Victoria repeats after the nun. That's what they call me, María says. Why we call her that is a long story. We'll tell you one day, says the other nun. Victoria agrees since she has no time today. They thank her as she turns to leave. María says, do not to forget about me. Victoria turns around, and María grabs her hand and tells her it's her dream to be a model. Victoria looks at Antonieta, puts her hand on María's, and promises the girl that they'll talk later.
Bernarda slaps Tomasa across the face for reminding Juan Pablo about Victoria. Tomasa defends Victoria and says everything wasn't her fault. Bernarda tells her to scram because she doesn't know what she's capable of. She wants her never to bring up Victoria again. Tomasa has guts and says she doesn't care about being kicked out; she'll leave on her own, but not before telling Juan Pablo the truth. Bernarda warns her that she's nice when she's good and can be evil when she's bad. Muhaha.
The priest is welcoming Juan Pablo. He's glad JP is young because you need lots of energy for this job. A guy named Domingo runs in. He kisses JP's hands when he's told that Juan Pablo's a priest. He's there to answer any questions JP has. The other priest is ready to leave, and Juan Pablo assures him that he'll help people and serve God.
Álvaro thanks Osvaldo for accompanying him. This audition is very important to him. Os is just glad his telenovela is over, and he can rest.
Álvaro asks about Os's relationship with Victoria, and Osvaldo starts blurting out how he needs attention, and Vicky doesn't have time for him. He mentions that she said she'll change. Ál apologizes for butting in, but he adds that Osvaldo was very suspicious at lunch. Osvaldo smiles.
Victoria tells Antonieta that she felt something strange when María Desampparada hugged her. Antonieta thinks Victoria always feels that way toward orphans, but Vicky tells her that with María it was different. It felt like her heart was coming out of her body. Then she tells herself that maybe she just misses her daughter.
Ál and Os are introduced to a dude named Pedro. Everyone's given a script. Osvaldo protests that he's not auditioning. He just came to accompany his friend. He's told to read anyways.
Max is asking Vicky about her choice in vendors or something. She tells him that poor people deserve a chance too. It's good quality for a cheap price. Plus, she's not embarassed of her humble origins. She's very proud, and these girls deserve a chance. He looks like he gets it, but Victoria tells him that they'll talk later. He says he'll wait for her there. Max winks at some girls, and Victoria tells him to wait in the salón. He reluctantly agrees.
Domingo is so excited that Padre (JP) is here. Whoa. A group of guys comes, and one of them punches the other. Fight! Fight! Fight! Padre and Domingo intervene. JP tells them that if they want to fight, they'll go to the gym.
Now we're in the gym where JP is explaining that one needs to be patient and respect another.
Ál does his lines and gets an applause. Osvaldo shows him the thumbs up. Pedro says both men were great, but he can only choose one. He puts his hand on Ál's arm and says the protagonist for this series is Osvaldo. BURN!
Osvaldo repeats that he wasn't trying out for the part. They say they need him, but Os says he wants to rest. Guilleremo (Ál's last name) is the guy they need. Ál says he understands; that's the profession. They tell Osvaldo this is in international project, and he can't say no. He's congradulated.
At Victoria's event, Antonieta is on stage, welcoming the crowd. The show starts. A model walks.
Antonieta asks Victoria where Maximiliano is. She says she told him to wait in the salón. Antonieta asks if she's still thinking of her daughter. Yes, she is. What about Juan Pablo? With the same magnitude that she loved him, Victoria now hates him. She wants to see him dead. Eee. Talk about bitter. Someone woke up on the wrong side of the ramp.
Juan Pablo feels dead. He's tired, that is. Domingo keeps talking about how cool JP was boxing. He thinks it's important to be a teacher in order to be a priest. He always liked helping people.
Flashback. JP's telling a crying Victoria that she has the potential to overcome all challenges. Victoria says she'll neer forget his words.
Domingo snaps Padre out of his memory. He wonders where Padre was for a second. JP tells him he was remembering someone he once knew and will one day find so he can ask forgiveness.
Victoria says one day, she'll have to tell Osvaldo the truth. Like Oscar said, never too late for the truth. There should never be secrets between two people who are in love, Antonieta says.
Osvaldo walks into his home where the girl from the phone awaits him. She jumps into his arms and says he promised they'd spend time together, but he says they'll have to postpone because he needs to go to Victoria's event. Strangely enough, I think she's his daughter. Ew. She gets all upset and says it's always Victoria and her events. She hates the events and is not going with Osvaldo. She storms off.
Max is looking hot. What's new about that tho? María offers her spot to some photographer who is taking pics of the models. She's standing on one side of a TV screen, and Max is on the other side. They don't see each other. Maximiliano looks at the stage, while María is staring at the ceiling.
Some kids play soccer with Juan Jo.
More models. Antonieta runs to María and asks her to get some white roses asap. She gives her some money, and María happily goes.
Osvaldo arrives for the show. María rushes the lady preparing the flowers and misses Olvaldo pass the hall.
Juan Jo helps Milagros with her stuff. A girl says hi to him and calld Milagros mother in law. Milagros thinks he should go out with her. He doesn't like her. His mom doesn't understand why.
María sees Osvaldo but doesn't notice it's him because she's in a hurry to get the flowers to Antonieta. When she's closing the elevator door, he comes in, and she's super excited to see him.
Bernarda says she always wondered where this cross (the one from Victoria) came from. It was a gift, JP says. He wants to talk about his father's death, which Victoria says they talked about. It pains her to think about it because she loved him so much. She's not kidding anyone--oh wait, Juan Pablo believes her. 0_O
She runs to her room, closes the door, and says Octavio deserved to die. She closes the curtains and makes her room all dark and creepy. She says Victoria and Octavio paid for betraying her.
María stares at Osvaldo in the elevator. It gets stuck, and she grabs Os's arm because she's scared. She drops her wallet.
Antonieta tells Victoria that she sent María Desamparrada to get flowers. Vicky wants to thank her personally, and she remembers that María said she wants to be a model.
María and Osvaldo make small talk. Os comments that he notices she's with the group that came with the nuns, and she comments that Victoria's very good to do this event yearly. She tells him the flowers need to reach Victoria asap.
The nun ensures Victoria that María is very responsible. Victoria is pissed that she's late.
The elevator starts working. They thank God.
Victoria grabs some flowers out of a vase and gives it to the nun to give to Antonieta. Right then, she sees María exit from the elevator with Osvaldo. There's an innocent kiss on the cheek, and Victoria is enraged. Osvaldo tells María she's an innocent girl, and she should never change.
María runs to Victoria and begins to apologize, but Victoria cuts her off. She doesn't want any explanations. María has proven that she's good for nothing. Osvaldo tries to defend the girl, but Victoria says she doesn't have time to talk to him. She takes the bouqet from María's hands and throws it on the ground before leaving.
Osvaldo apologizes for what just happened, and he says he'll talk to Victoria and explain. María is near tears but says that's not necessary. She doesn't want to cause any more problems. She walks off sadly. A woman asks Osvaldo if he dropped whatever it was that María dropped in the elevator. He says it's not his, but he knows who it belongs to. He takes it.
Maria is sitting in the front by the nun again. She says she has a headache and wants to go back to the internado. The nun tells her to wait, and Maria says she'll go wait in the back.
Victoria's on stage. Maximiliano cheers for her. The crowd claps. She thanks everyone and calls the nun on stage. Victoria hands her a check I think. More applause. Maximiliano and María are on opposite sides of the room, but their eyes lock. They look mezmorized by one another and smile. Maximiliano looks intrigued by her reaction to him.
End of episode.
We see William Levy in the kayak again. Totally random, but hey, it's hot. :D
Feel free to add/correct anything.
Labels: triunfo
Not happy with William's short hairstyle or Sorti leftover a day and half beard look it covers up too much of his beautiful face.
I don't understand why they didn't use Maite as a young Victoria and Young actor as Juan Pablo but then again this is a Mejia production right. iI'm thinking too much i know suspend all logic it's a novela:)
Fernanda that's Osvaldo's young daughter with Victoria what a little drama queen.
Victoria it seems is very insecure and to automatically jump to a conclusion like she did with Maria when she saw her with her husband. She does realize he a TV star right?Fans asking for autographs and pictures and even a small kiss is part of his profession.Geez.
I've met two of my favorite singers, both of whom routinely kiss their female fans, and I agree that it would have to be very difficult to be married to someone like that. Even is he's faithful you'd always be suspicious of the temptations these guys face.
My suspicions about Bernarda are already being confirmed. Tomasa will be her next victim.
Fernanda looks older than Maria, so she must be from Osvaldo's previous marriage. This is different.
Victoria was a total bitch to Maria over the bouquet and Os. This is the same.
The problem with Maite being the young Victoria is that Victoria would recognize her immediately as her daughter. She isn't meant to know for a while.
1. As always another fine recap. I can't tell you how much I admire all the recappers here.
2. "Strangely enough, I think she's his daughter. Ew."...That's exactly what I thought.
3. Bernarda is ee-bul. Pure ee-bul. Like, really creepy ee-bul. The whole close-the-curtains to make it creepy dark made me shudder. This is going to be one heck of a ride.
4. Blusamurai- I had the same thoughts about using at least Maite as a young Victoria. And you're so right Victoria had a major mood swing regarding María.
5. Alicia Rodríguez is one of my fave actresses. She has such a perfect face for playing the benevolent granny type.
6. Cantú looked so familiar to me that I had to look him up. He was pretty good in the few eps of FELS that I saw.
Final thoughts
*The whole scene with Max rushing to get to work was hilariously "quesísimo". I loved every minute.
* I hope we don't have a lot of "this is an excuse to let Juan Jo show off his soccer skills" scenes.
*And I'm just wondering-did STuD start this fad of hot guys showering, or is this an often used TN ratings grab?
Victoria was such a beyotch about the flowers and it was such a 180 that it makes it a little hard for me to like her.
"Victoria’s Secret", "With the same magnitude that she loved him, Victoria now hates him" and "BURN" were my favorite lines.
I was shocked that Victoria didn't tell Osvaldo about her daughter. They seemed so close and loving. I can't understand her hesitation, he seems like the perfect man in every way - certain to understand and support her.
While I agree Levy is hot, I had to laugh at Blu's "Sorti leftover a day and half beard look".
Sara, yes: "Bernarda is ee-bul. Pure ee-bul". Urban, I also fear Tomasa is not long for this world.
Maite lights up the screen and of course I totally agree that "Osvaldo's Hot".
Really enjoying this.
Diana
Not to mention that novelas are all about secrets and the fallout from their revelation.
One of my favorite scenes from EPDA is when Andres found out that Padre Juan is the father of Luciana's "missing" daughter. He took it very well and it led to one of the best confrontations I've ever seen (Andres confronting Ana Joaquina).
Sara:
And I'm just wondering-did STuD start this fad of hot guys showering, or is this an often used TN ratings grab?
No, it's an old tradition, and Mejía mastered and upgraded it in FELS (three naked male butts in the lake) and CS (one naked male butt in the sea). :)
I also find Osvaldo hot - despite the obvious botox and other surgeries he had.
@Sara Yes, Fernanda and Osvaldo were awkward. I had to settle for mentally barfing so I wouldn't miss anything important while recapping.
@Judy thank you. It means a lot. I've missed you all dearly through everything.
@Diana glad to see you again!
@Urban Anthropologist gracias! What a cool blogger name you have. I like.
@Aribeth I agree on Osvaldo. :)
Thanks all! It feels good to be back.
Now…. THAT was a nice shower scene. It's always good to know our galan values personal hygiene.
;o)
Max's little sports car reminded me of the Green Hornet. Nice touch, that he had to stop, on his way to work, to catch some purse snatchers, beat them up, and return the purse to a sweet little old lady. And then he gets in trouble for being late to work. Gheesh... being a superhero is hard on one's daytime job. Telenovela rule #1 --- lack of communication. Victoria would forgive him if she new he'd been playing Green Hornet and whupping up on bad guys.
re: SPOILERS - I have not seen EPDA, and so many of you have, and it is all to easy to make comparisons. Please, may I give a gentle remember of the no spoilers rule Melinama has here, so that we newbies to the story are left to anticipate the plot.]? We're all human, and things slip out. Unfortunately, we cannot mark them as such here, like we can over at TelenovelaWorld. Millones de gracias. :o)
I'm trying to get into this TN, but could only watch about 15 minutes last night...most of it the boring fashion show and flower dash. Thanks for filling everything else in for me.
Having said that we can expect that there will be differences between TDA and EPDA, just as there were major differences between PDG and FELS.
http://urbananthropologist001.blogspot.com/2007/10/gender-wars-i-entertainment-and-laws-of.html
[How do you make a link live?]
I'm here for WL and MP because I love them both and the chemistry between them. I liked VR in La Madrastra. I thought Daniela R
was excellent in Sortilegio, but
I don't think I can tolerate her character here. I'll probably skip a lot and read the recaps.
Why does WL appear to be wearing lipstick? - bright red lips.
I noticed that in the promos, and
it continues... I find it very annoying although I do admire
his lips greatly.
Sondie
I can't deny that WL's back --as well as his backside--is a marvel to behold. Rios is a bit meaty for me, but he's still a fine looking specimen. I love his smile -"refreshed" or not --and his sparkling eyes. He was a terrific choice to play this character IMHO. Glad to see Erika Buenfil back in something again as well as Guillermo Garcia Cantú and of course, Daniela Romo. Marco Méndez as Fabián Duarte is a hottie also. I wish he'd get a lead sometime soon. Anyway, it's a great troup of actors so no matter how Mejia screws it up, I figure they'll be able to carry the load pretty well.
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I appreciate the comparisons but may I also make a request to those who are familiar with the earlier version to wait until the segment they want to compare has already aired? It would make more sense to me anyway because then I can at least understand the references. Thanks in advance. : ? )
Doris, I watched el Privilegio de Amar, but about all I remember is that I had to struggle to stay with it and that the models seemed better fed, so I doubt that I'll be dropping any spoilers.
Victoria seems a bit mentally unstable. So far, her character doesn't seem to have any emotional consistency at all. Did I hear her say that now she hates Juan Pablo? Does she think he knows about her pregnancy? Maybe I need to pay closer attention.
Carlos
I've been watching "Eva Luna" in addition to "Triunfo," and when I first saw today's "Triunfo" title, I thought "Max is hot?? No, Max is dead!" Ooops, wrong Max.
I interpreted Victoria's response to Maria somewhat differently from what's been said here. I didn't think she was jealous of Osvaldo's kissing Maria on the cheek, I thought Victoria was simply pissed that Maria was late. We already saw earlier in the same episode how annoyed she was when Max (the live one, not the dead one) arrived 10 minutes late to the meeting. The point was made that she values punctuality. So I thought that was why Victoria responded as she did when Maria was late with the flowers.
I find that I'm not hating this TN like I thought I would, but we already have typical Mejia, "mi hija, mi hija".
TG Victoria's doll doesn't look like the one from CS.
Osvaldo Rios-Alonso
DOB 10/25/68
Puerto Rico
I mostly forwarded first epi due to WL's absence.
CdL: it's time to drool again!!
WL's the only reason I'm watching. Everytime he's on the screen, I am simply transfixed.
Floridia: it didn't seem to me like WL had on lipstick. the whole time I was transfixed on him, I just thought he has the most kissable/perfect lips I've ever seen on any man.
Juanita: good point on Victoria's pet-peeve - punctuality.
Yes, I did notice Helena Rojo on first epi. I want to grow up to be just like her, as far as physical appearances go. She is beautiful and elegant.
As for TdL's storyline... zzzzzzzzzz. I'll be watching it til the bitter end, though.
I'm still on the sidelines watching and waiting.
Aside from Ruffo and Garcia-Cantu, none of the other actors have really interested me. So, am waiting for the story to grab my attention.
I have to say that when I first saw a close up of Osvaldo, my thought was that he looked like a bobble head doll.
When I look at Garcia-Cantu's face, I like it because it shows so much emotion and believable reactions.
I am glad that Julio Aleman has not done anything to his face. I find him to be a most attractive and distinguished looking gentleman.
I think one could have a buff bod and a natural face, but I am not in this business, so what do I really know?
I was a tad stunned at Victoria's response to the Maite character (is it Maria?). How in the world could she think that Osvaldo would have an interest in a teenager type?!
I thought that the woman Osvaldo went to see was his mistress! However, I see where she could be his daughter as he really did not hide his conversation with her from the Garcia-Cantu character.
Sorry...the names of the characters have not yet stuck in my head.
Bernie is definitely much more evil and creepier than Helmet Head Leonor in STuD. My oh my...we are in for a ride with this one!
As for Juan Pablo...he needs a bath, a shave, and clean hair.
Thank you, Cielo!
Susanita
Sondie glad to see you joining this one sorry i didn't want to watch Llena de Amor i couldn't stomach Armando Ariaza(Carmelo) after Mi Pecado anymore.I missed seeing your comments.
Juanita let's say even if that's why Victoria acted that way still that was extremely rude and out of line because the very reason why she was late because the flower woman was bust ogling Osvaldo and taking her sweet time. Just like she did with Max she didn't wait around to hear why he was late she just got upset.
The actors in EPDA were fantastic but it was a much cooler and emotionally reserved version than I sense that this will be. It worked, but I'm now yielding to gooiness.
Thanks to all who are doing summaries. This was a great one.
Osvaldo doesn't look old enough to be Max's father. And that young girl at his house can't possibly be his daughter. The way she jumped on him, etc., I thought they were going to do the horizontal tango right there. Ack.
Why did it take Bernarda veinte años to notice and ask JP about that crucifix?
Juanita - your avatar cracks me up.
The whole "Max showers and goes to work" sequence was such a cheesefest. I loved it. Maybe I'm okay with Mejía's typical boatloads of queso as long as it's funny instead of La Llorona for hours and hours.
Do priests ever join in the "hot guys in the shower" tradition? Because I agree, Padre Hottie Juan Pablo needs a good rinse.
I think Victoria was jealous of Maria walking in with Osvaldo (along with being slightly late from being stuck in the elevator)Her pet peeve and moine as well is tardiness. But I think seeing her with Osvaldo was what made her more upset.
If Maximilian said that he saved and old lady from muggers while waiting at a stoplight and that he may be called as a witness by the cops sometime, then he would have a slightly better chance of being off the hook.( I know he won't be called to testify but it may better sell his alibi to Victoria)
Regarding the possible incest situation, If I remember correctly from the sypnosis Maximilian is Osvaldo's son with another woman and Victoria treats him as her own. Maria is the daughter of Victoria and Padre Juan Pablo. So there is no genetic relation at all. Feel free to correct the info it it is wrong.
Guillermo Garcia-Cantu's character Alvaro is not as evil as Fernado Escandon fromm FELS.
2 slaps in 2 nights. Will Bernarda match Gabby's slaps in Fels? One thing though,She is taller and better looking than Gabby. Gabby is old enough to be her mother. ;)
So will tonight's episode see Maria leave the orphanage and 'sally forth' on her own?
Ps. can someone tag this to the links please?
Ibarramedia
I got that on the whosdatedwho site
I don't know if I'm going to get invested in Triunfo, William or no William. I'm not a fan of themes involving religiosity and the hi-fashion industry.
So I will be watching from time to time and reading the recaps and checking out the comments.
Have a good time everybody.
Newbie-One-Kanobe
(formely known as Newbie in Md)
Welcome back amiga! You came back with a bang, and a great recap. How’s school and life?
I watched last night's episode. WL still looks good, glad to see. Hated Fabian R's hairstyle, like the rest of you. He is typically hot, but in this tn he looks dopey with that hair. Maite is cute as ever, and there are no silly wigs in site for the older actresses. A good sign. :)
All in all, it's not been a bad start so far, especially given all the preceding put downs of the novela. I find the music a bit too sappy and overbearing at times, and hope they tone it down eventually. I hope the story gets better and more interesting as it goes on. (fingers crossed)
Last night the same thought struck me as during En Nombre de Amor. When the 20-somthing galans see the pretty girl in the school uniform and instantly become smitten, why don't they ever consider that this girl might be 14 or 15? Way, too, young, for, them. They always luck out and she turns out to be in her last year of high school (age 17-19), but they never seem to consider the high school uniform as a stop sign. Creepy.
Since my Spanish is not the best, the scene most difficult for me to understand was the discussion between Juanjo and Don Nacho when they were washing up after coming from a fire. It may be partly the barrio accent and the idioms like "cuerpo de bola" among others that I can't find anywhere. And what is a tortita ahogada (drowned pancake?).
I taped the show, so I went back and replayed that discussion several times. Even though he called Juanjo "hijo" Don Napo is not his father. Later in the discussion they are talking about why Don Napo doesn't get himself a lady friend. He says he was married, is a widower and has a daughter. He also says he prefers to stay single. I'm not really sure about this, but I think he spends a lot of time at Juanjo's house eating Dona Milagro's cooking. Maybe they were discussing her "tortitas ahogadas".
He used the word for leftovers, so maybe he takes a doggy bag home. LOL
Vivi exactly this must be a fantasy of these male writers or producers falling in love with a young looking girl in her Catholic School Uniform never mind like you said the girl could actually be 14-15 years old perverts and way creepy.
Blusamurai, I agree with you about Victoria's behavior re Maria being rude and out of line. I think I preferred the Ruffo character in En Nombre del Amor, though there she was probably a bit too much of a wuss.
Doris, I'm delighted you like my avatar.
It fits, because Dona Milagro and Juanjo are from Guadalajara. And it makes me more sure that it is her tortitas they are talking about.
If so, how in the world did I miss him?!
Susanita
I think I'm going to like this Tn, especially with WL in it.
I don't see what's all the fuss about Osvaldo. WL has him beat in my book, altho Oswaldo looks good for his age. But then he has had plastic surgery.
I hope we won't have to endure Victoria's bawling. I think she is so annoying. She's as bad as Adela Noriega in that department.
I can't wait for Maria and Max to get together. Looks like it might be soon....great!!!
Ann-NYC
we're talking about, not Fabian. They are both in La Verdad Oculta. Marco was also in Querida Enemiga.
http://www.seriesnow.com/mexican-telenovelas/triunfodelamorel.html
If I'm counting correctly, Maria should be 19 right now.
Ibarramedia
Carlos
Thanks also to NovelaMaven for your recap on Monday.
Need to run but still in shock that Osvaldo was meeting his DAUGHTER. That scene was way too creepy. Similar to Vivi's comment about these 20 something men falling for school girls.
Carlos/Vivi/Blusamurai/Newbie/Julia: I am very happy to be back. I've been meaning to drop in for the last several months, but life's been crazy. My dear mother passed away in September so that's why I was MIA. A big loss. I'm okay though, please don't worry.
School is good. I'm on vacation right so working full-time. Fun. NOT. Lol, no it's not that bad. I <3 my coworkers.
Nice to see those who I haven't had the chance to meet too--Floridia (I noticed the lipstick, too. I'll admit), Anons, and Susanita!
Happy New Year to all. Sorry about your mom Cielo. Glad you're ok. Connie may or may not do the thursday recap. Stay tuned.
I guess it is implied that Bernarda killed her husband who was already very sick. Maybe we will see it happen tonight via flashbacks. I may have to make a deathlist later, it is still too early though Tomasa could be #3.
Ibarramedia
@doris- "Why did it take Bernarda veinte años to notice and ask JP about that crucifix?" LOL
@Juanita- thanks for your spin on Victoria's reaction. It makes sense with her punctuality obsession. Also, I tried to get into Eva Luna after STuD and I realize I probably should have given it more time. But Max's death last night really upset me...so I won't be watching again.
To add insult to injury, Comcast my cable provider, bless their black tiny hearts, has moved Telemundo to another tier, so I can't watch it in my kitchen anymore. Just had to rant about that. Sorry.
I have difficulty believing that any man who isn't himself a religious fanatic accepting the idea of his son becoming a priest after never having experienced life. Starting with girlfriends. I have even greater difficulty believing that his objections haven't been stronger all along.
I, too, am annoyed at all of Victoria´s crying, and how in the world could they have the same actress playing the younger Victoria and the present one. Also, I might be wrong, but US movies or TV shows would RARELY put a normal weight woman(if not a bit above normal) in a starring role. Also, nor would they have senior citizens being in love, like Isabel and Federico and then Ernesto, or Benita and Federico, from STuD.
I also was stunned to find out that the girl Osvaldo visited was his daughter. I seemed as if she was all over him and vice versa. That´s why I´couldn´t understand why he asked her to go to the fashion show with him. Plus, other comments he made suggested that she is his mistress, too. Referring to a daughter to substitute for a wife not being attentive¨ enough is very strange, to me.
And speaking of Osvaldo, at first I thought he looked sort of like Mr. Big from Sex and the City, but the more I looked at him, the more grossed out I became. Now he reminds of of a young Boris Karloff in a horror movie. (I´m showing my age!)I think it´s the sunken cheeks, scultped chin and irregular shaped angular face. I hope he didn´t spend too much on the plastic surgery, because he looks VERY freakish. I have trouble looking at him. I even find Guy Echert more satisfying to look at than him.
But I must admit WL is classic, but too cute, with his boyish face AND is a womanizer. FC was more mature and kinder looking, and more respectful of women, which mades him irresistable, besides his gleaming wet 6 pack in the shower. WL just can´t compare, at least for me.
Anyway, I like looking at him, so I´ll stay with him!
SSoS, formerly SOS formerly anonagainhere. SSOS means STILL Stuck on STuD!
dpd
I forgot..I agree with those of you who think Victoria was out of line to María. I think maybe she was suffering from longing of her daughter and was so stressed that she needed someone to snap at to quell her frustsration and desperation...maybe wishing that María WAS her daughter and was angry at herself and for this young girl stirring up these emotions...and then seeing her with Osvaldo just was too much. But I agree that she is a bit unstable. Not as bad as Marcela in Eva Luna, nor Leonora in STuD, but she is definitely someone to be reckoned with, especially with her ¨puncutality¨ fetish. Maybe this has a root in her past that we´ll find out about later.
And someone commented that Bernarda is worse the Leonora...at least they are both in the same league! And what is it with these matronly women who want to kill there husbands, ie Marcela and Bernarda? It seems as if TN´s have this thing against successful older women. How Freudian are these similarities with the ¨mom¨figureS. And what´s with ALL THREE, STuD, Eva, AND TdA having the ¨whose the child´s biological parent?¨ thing going? Do ALL the TN´s have the same themesaaa?
And finally, (I promise this is the last)..could someone please explain to me the comments about Mejía? Did he do StUD and Eva Luna, too?
YIKES! It´s 8pm.. EVA LUNA is on!!!!
SSoS
Apparently baby swapping and 'lost' kids to be found again are a staple of TN plots. I found this out when I was watching FELS and was questioning all the baby swapping goin on.
Ibarramedia
* Triunfo del amor (2010/11)
* Corazón salvaje (2009/10)
* Fuego en la sangre (2008)
* Mundo de fieras (2006)
* La esposa virgen (2005)
* La madrastra (2005,07) & La madrastra... años después (2005)
* Mariana de la noche (2003/04)
* Entre el amor y el odio (2002)
* Abrázame muy fuerte (2000/01)
* Rosalinda (1999)
* La usurpadora (1998) & Más allá de... La usurpadora (1998)
* Esmeralda (1997)
La madrastra was laughable
La ursurpadora was horrible
Abrazame muy fuerte was unwatchable
Fuego en la sangre, what can I say?
Corazón Salvaje was moved to midnight
Fortunately I missed the rest
Thanks, Ibarramedia.
Hi, Dipity! Are you recapping?
I will plan on recapping Thursday, unless someone else wants to.
Sorry about your Mom Cielo.
dpd
Back to the show. Looks like Bernarda is doing a Gabby getting a can of gasoline and setting a house on fire wearing a black leather treanch coat. Another Mejia signature touch.
Ibarramedia
(This is one of those weeks when real life trumps novelas, so I may not say much, but will try to follow...)
However, the most intense villains are female control freaks and the best embodiment of that is the Maternal Monster. The woods are full of them:
Bernarda of TDA
Ana Joaquina of EPDA
Gabriela of FELS
Marcela of EL
Bernarda of La Otra
Carlota of ENDA (in loco parentis)
Lucrezia of Salome
Leonarda of CS 2009
Aurelia of La Esposa Virgen
Catalina of Cuna de Lobos
Raquel of Inocente de Ti
Augusta of Amor Real
Sofia of CS 1993
Victoria of Gitanas
Jacinta of Barrera de Amor She hurts two generations
They Probably don't outnumber controlling fathers, but they certainly do a lot more damage.
Victoria has more power and clout now so she should have no problems facing Bernarda. Shouldn't Juan Pablo and Bernarda also know about what a success Vicotria has made for herself unless they were living under a rock?
Another thing, she is married to an actor so that is double income and influence. I guess we will find out in later episodes how all this will work out.
Ibarramedia
SSoS
Both Univision and Telemundo have been struggling with the Late Fringe daypart for years. Telemundo tried introducing a talk show with a Cuban Jerry Seinfeld, but that didn't work, so now they do reruns of Decesiones. Univision then pulled back its previously-announced plan to do a Tonight Show-style program. They had been doing rerun novelas for some time from 1-3AM and probably decided that a first-run novela at midnight would work.
Hence, Gancho got moved after it began building an audience.
There is another factor involved, which is that their agreement with Televisa gives them a limited broadcast window in which to run a first-run novela. This is the reason that YAAJQ and ENDA had weekend finales. Their window for STuD may have dictated that they needed to run it when they did.
Also, when we consider the sexual content of CS 2009, the midnight time slot made sense for it. Trust me, its prime time ratings weren't bad or it would have ended up in daytime instead.
Not that time slots matter that much in the age of VCRs, DVRs, and TiVOs.
I wasn't going to watch any of this, but got tempted into the first week, mostly to compare with El Privilegio de Amar, my first TN.
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