Caray, Caray!

HEREDEROS -- Jueves 1/14

Paula deserves a few good kicks and I don't particularly care where they're applied. What's bothering me the most is that she will be ultimately be rewarded for her despicable actions by getting Juan.

He deserves better than a vain bitch who taunts Julieta with a smug "Don't hate me because I'm beautiful."

I've seen this in action because I'm the daughter of a woman like that.

Miguel will definitely be most of the comic relief in this story. His discomfort at having his wife and his harlot at the same table was nothing short of hilarious. I'm going to bet right now that one of his daughters figures it out soon and makes him pay.
 

ALGUIEN – Friday, Jan 14

The unresolved issues:

Will the police figure out that Julián is el cazador?

If so, will they do so before there are more victims?

Julián is talking aloud to Eva. Is he losing his grip on reality?

What the hell is wrong with Piedad? And will she pay for her stupidity with her life?

Will Matilde tell Luisa Carvajal what she knows about Mauricio’s suspicions and thus shift their focus to Julián? Or will Julián get to her first?

Will Daniel Vidal get out of this alive?

Will Lucía die of – oh, I don’t know, say, a burst cerebral aneurysm thus freeing Pedro Pablo and Lola from her tyranny? And will it turn out that the aneurysm was making her act like a crazy all along?

Will Camila move to another city, maybe Racine, and find happiness and lots of dollar bills as a pole dancer?

Will Tati and Benja reach a civilized accord so the children can have their father back?

Will Lola give Yoyita a raise?

Will Valeria survive her addiction, her depression and her scary underwear?

And finally:
Will Rodrigo get out of rehab in time to save Piedad? Or will he be another of Juliáns’ victims?
 

HEREDEROS -

Thanks for the summary, Jean. It's not really that important, but I'm pretty sure it's Gaspar and Guadalupe. Jose is the father of Beatriz's kid, the DNA having been positive.

The show's veering a bit into silly territory, with Paula building a little cabin in about 1 day for her office, thus infuriating everyone. Also, it got trashed by someone that very night. And when Julieta fainted (from sleeping pills) and Paula fainted (from cutting her hand) at the same time, we veered farther into silliness. But sometimes I like these novelas that don't always make sense, but have lots of dramatic closeups.

It was also funny to see Juan take Pedro up to the roof and threaten to throw him off if he didn't reveal his secret. He revealed it, he loves Julieta. I say let him have her (except that she doesn't love him :) Juan definitely has a screw loose kissing Paula and calling off the wedding.

I think one of the sisters (Consuelo?) advised Julieta that she wasn't dressing feminine enough. I'm hoping she decides to fight Paula with some new outfits. (I know, I'm a typical male :)
 

Alguien

NovelaMaven I was LOL thinking that Hombre and all of the guys watching Valeria pace back and forth in her Victoria Secrets were enjoying the show very much.

Exactly what is wrong with Piedad.

Yeah Julian is losing it and fast first Piedad over heard him talking to Eva now at the clinic he's talking to himself quite loudly.

I think Pedro Pablo is going to have to enlist Loca Lucia mother's help and get her daughter some professional help.

Benja is he for real it's too late for him trying to be territorial about his woman all of a sudden.

It looks like Tatiana isn't going to give him a second chance either, trying to force yourself on your soon to be ex is not the way to go about it.

Matilde it seems has finally accepted what Mauricio suspected and is ready to leave with her son on Monday.

Daniel did give Julian a time limit right so it's Julian no matter what who doesn't have a lot of time left to get him the money.I think he's going to get picked up by the cops.

Rodrigo is ready to escape from the rehabilitation clinic on Monday.
 

HEREDEROS

Thanks, Jean.

That Paula grated on my nerves with her screeching. ugh!

This is my first tn with rancheros, and have to say I just love their attire. the men especially.. yum yum.

Thought the 3men and a baby scene was cute.
 

ALGUIEN TE MIRA
Excellent Summary NovelaMaven! Very well done! Yes, indeed, those are all the burning questions. And THIS one is has me on the edge of my seat: "Will Matilde tell Luisa Carvajal what she knows about Mauricio’s suspicions and thus shift their focus to Julián? Or will Julián get to her first?"

On a someone lighter note - and I don't think I can stand to see any more of Valeria's anguish as she fights her addition - "Will Valeria survive her addiction, her depression and her scary underwear?"

Yeah - wow - all I could think was - No Way she's sleeping in that! Arrgh! Ridiculous! My husband just couldn't stop laughing at the "push-up" part of the ensemble.

It's a bit hard to take someone's anguish seriously when some body parts are so blatantly on display - LOL!

Friday seemed like all fluff/filler. I'm waiting anxiously for some progress here!

Audrey
 

ALGUIEN TE MIRA

Audrey, I don't remember seeing you comment here before. Maybe I missed it. In any case, welcome!

Yep, I liked Valeria at first, but I'm very tired of watching her pacing around either giving in to or resisting her addiction. I didn't say so before, but I didn't like her telling Rodrigo about Piedad living with Julián. For starters, she hasn't officially moved in; he's supposed to be helping her rest from the almost miscarriage. It was kind of ambiguous whether she was trying to get him away from Piedad for herself or whether she just thought she was helping him move on from a hopeless love.

Was Mathilde planning to visit her parents as well, or only send Emilio? I thought the latter.

Loca Lucy really is getting more and more loca. She was telling Yoyita that she'd replace Lola as PP's wife, if I'm not mistaken. It bothers me that PP has flashbacks of the way she looked in her undies. I don't think she'll succeed in seducing him, but they know how to ratchet up the suspense that she might.

HEREDEROS

I finally caught up with this one last night. I liked Marlene Favela in Zorro, but she sure is despicable in this one. I agree with Urban A that it's frustrating that she'll doubtless end up with Juan. I'm already sick to death of her smirking on the sidelines every time she discovers another weakness of los hermanos.

I can't decide whether to stick with this one or not. I like the relationship between Guadalupe and Gaspar a lot. I saw a few minutes of Elena and saw the actor as a very bad dude. He's kind of bitter at times in this one, but he's delightful in his love for Lupe.

I haven't been a big Cimarro fan, but I like him in this one. He has sort of a growl in his voice that I like. He's doing a good job as the stoic elder brother.

What would interest me is the back story that was hinted at when Gaspar told Jose how could he have his son experience what they did as unwanted children. I'd like to see how they all got adopted. Presumably the mother was the infertile one, unless Paula turns out to be a big liar.

And, yes, the stinky diaper baby scene was very cute.

In fact, every moment when Paula isn't around is a big improvement.
 

HEREDEROS

I wonder whether it would be possible for the guys to demand a DNA test at this late date. Is there a hair cutting or a medical specimen of any kind of the late Don Emilio that could be used to determine whether Paula really is his daughter?

Who's ready to bet that Juan will give her a good hard spanking within the next dozen episodes? Not that I favor such things, but Paula is just asking for it.

The "3 Cowboys and a Baby" scene was cute.
 

ALGUIEN -

NovelaMaven, your questions were hilarious!

I thought Tatiana looked amazing in her red dress, and it definitely produced a lot of interest from Angel. But she's not exactly ready to kiss him. And when Benja started fighting out of jealousy, maybe, just maybe, Tati was touched by that, and would be closer to forgiving Benja. Or maybe not.

Yes, I liked Valeria's underwear choices. I still think she needs some friend, or a hobby. She could go on the computer, do calisthenics, read, eat (I know, THAT's out), anything except just pace around and fight her drug cravings. She almost cut her wrists. Course, if she really wanted to kill herself, she has that balcony. BTW, I don't think she misrepresented the Piedad encounter, because Piedad didn't say her stay at Julian's was temporary. I think Valeria does feel sorry for Rod, and was just being honest (although, of course, she does want him for herself :)

Something has to stop Lucy. The idea that her Mom will intervene is a good one. I could also see someone from her past, from another city, show up to derail her train.

I'm also getting worried for Matilde, who doesn't seem to have the strength to stand up to, or outsmart Julian (although he's losing it, too).
 

UA: LOL on the spanking. I sometimes feel as if Juan would like to do just that. I hope you're right, and it's a-coming.
 

ALGUIEN
I have never waited with full anticipation as to the end of a novela. I'm not going to lie I have watched some of the original and I am anticipating one upcoming event, only to me it doesn't make sense and want to see how it develops. This novela has me on my knees with anticipation.

HEREDEROS
I have to say I love looking at all those men/boys. I feel like I'm an old geezer at 57, but boy they do make my heart flutter. But I have to admit Paula is getting on my nerves like Ivana did in the beginning STuD. I hope she improves on me like Ivana did. But HEREDEROS, thanks for the men candy. I hate to say am not really following the storyline, I seem to get a glazed look when I see these men. I give a round of applause to the casting director.
 

HEREDEROS

ITA, Nellie. the men are scintillating. stature, wardrobe, and all. I also love the fact that there'll possibly be 5 love stories with 5 hot men to boot. the women aren't too shabby either.
 

ALGUIEN

Hombre, I agree that Benja showing up and fighting with Ángel probably pleased Tatiana, even though she pretended the exact opposite.

I have noticed that ALL telenovelas portray all men, whether heroes or villains, as very jealous of the woman who's the object of their love/obsession. I personally think this is deliberate by the writers. I think the majority of viewers of telenovelas are female and Hispanic. Whether true or not, the stereotype is that women are flattered by their man's being jealous of them.

I'm leaning toward the theory that someone from Lucy's past might show up and that she's pulled this before. Absolutely not a spoiler.
 

Alguien

Pedro Pablo did do some sort of investigating and found out about Loca Lucia past and she has done something like this before and he found out about her lovers claiming he's not the father of her child. At that time we saw a panicked look on Loca Lucia face especially when Pedro Pablo demanded she take her blood test to prove the paternity of her child. She refused saying he had to wait 9 months if he wanted one, and that was the end of it. He stopped putting pressure on her thinking she was indeed pregnant. He also was holding over her head being drugged by her to have sex with him. I think he did discover something in her past that's why she was very frighten.

Right now i think they're at a stalemate because she has Lola hiring someone to assault her and she can prove it. But i do think he needs to go back to what he found on her to get her out of his house and their lives. That's why i believe he should try and recruit her mother and lay out to her all she has done to him and his family and that she isn't pregnant and that she needs some professional help.
 

Hi NovelaMaven - thanks for your welcome.

No - I haven't posted over on "El Mundo de Telemundo" before, but I did post some over on STuD a few times. I didn't watch much of the TN, but the recaps were so highly entertaining that I followed them! Now I post pretty regularly on the Lleno De Amor recap - I ended up getting hooked on that silly show - it's just so funny!

I pretty much follow the Telemundo Novelas. I've watched Alguien te Mira from the beginning. It's been really impressive albeit painful. I also watched all of Fantasma de Elena which was ridiculous but had some nice eye candy and a few memorable performances. I got totally sick of the Montecristo character, so it is a relief that Fabian Rios was able to transform so much for Los Herederos.

Don't know about Los Herederos. It hasn't engaged my interest yet even though there are some very nice looking men on display and I love the setting.

Audrey
 

Hi Audrey,

I'm very glad to see you posting here but I can't take credit for the original welcome. That came from Novelera, not me.

By the way, I'm not watching Herederos. I'm holding out for La Reina del Sur and over on Univision, I'm watching the marvellously overblown Triunfo del Amor.
 

Herederos has not really engaged me yet. I am hoping that Paula is going to have the smirk taken off her face by some misfortune that will turn her into a better person. At least it's a nice change from the girl from humble circumstances who falls in love with the guy from the rich family that is the story staple of so many novelas, especially on Univisión. But as Shallowgal said, 5 hot guys, their romances and the rest of the nice scenery are pleasant to watch.
 

GENERAL

NovelaMaven, have you read the book "La Reina del Sur"? I've started it a couple of times in both English and Spanish, but I'm in two book groups that meet monthly and keep having to put it down. I hope to have read it before the novela starts.

The promos for La Reina are fun to watch; i.e. seeing our smooth serial killer Rafael Amaya portraying a Mexican narco calling himself el mero mero.
 

GENERAL

Novelera, I did read "La Reina del Sur" in Spanish a couple of years ago after my daughter's friend recommended it. I'm planning to reread the story, at least in part, as it unfolds on the screen. It's fascinating and disturbing but the most interesting thing to me is how much of an impact the book made on the reading public in Mexico. Pérez-Reverte's dance card has been full in recent years.

And yes, it will be fun to see Rafael Amaya as el Güero, the closest thing to a hero in this story.
 

I'm also looking forward to La Reina del Sur. I've enjoyed several other Telemundo shows about druglords, so this should also be good (especially as the main character is a woman). I'm trying to read the book in Spanish, but it's over 500 pages long, and has lots of slang. It's much rougher going than what I had been reading (Harry Potter in Spanish), but I'm going to keep trying.
 

REINA

I will probably try this one because of the cast, but I personally don't like drug stories. TM had a long affair with them that I found a major turnoff.

What I wouldn't mind seeing from either network are miniseries based on books. But I guess they've concluded that it isn't cost-effective to put sets together for anything longer than 100 episodes.
 

If properly done, a 100 episode novela based on a novel can be very good. The novela made from the Venezuelan novel, Doña Bárbara, necessarily contained a lot more plot than the novel but it kept the spirit of the novel and was so well written that it was a pleasure to watch.
 

Oops - confused Novelera and NovelaMaven!

Thanks for correcting me NovelaMaven.

And Novelera - thanks for the welcome - the 2nd message from me applies to you!

Audrey
 

Herederos

Don't know if I'll succeed in trying to use this new system for commenting . . .

But I am in agreement with Urban Anthropologist. Paula is such a basic rat that I don't feel like going through whatever process they will use to redeem her and make a the appropriate mate for Juan.

I've deleted the episodios that I have recorded, and will hope for better things with Victoria, which started today, but which I haven't seen yet.
 

GENERAL (Victoria)

Anon 7:24- I saw Victoria today as well (day off and plenty of time to watch novelas). Victoria Ruffo playing another character named Victoria (I found that funny considering her current character in TdA), Arturo Peniche, Tati from Alguien, and Mauricio Ochman playing the younger man who will eventually be Victoria's lover. It looks good so far, with lots of familiar faces of stars from Televisa and Telemundo. I'll decide tonight if I want to set the dvr to record it. I have no idea when I'd actually watch it.
 

HEREDEROS- Monday: Things got a little more interesting in last night's episode.

Pedro announces in front of everyone that he is in love with Juliéta and had a relationship with her four years ago when Juliéta and Juan had a fight. Juan is furious to learn about this and accuses Pedro of betraying him.

Miguel is so broke from a bad harvest that he hasn't paid Rosa's credit cards or this daughter's school fees. He has borrowed money from Juan.

Gaspar & Guadalupe- Closing the cafe and heading out for love in the afternoon doesn't seem like a very good way to keep Lupe's father, Eleuterio, from finding out about their relationship.

Jose and Beatrice - Jose tells Beatrice that he has fallen for his son, Simón and gives her money for the child. Beatrice tells Efraín that she doesn't want Jose to be Simón's godfather but of course, she can't tell him why.

Gaspar lets Sofía use a car that has mechanical problems. She goes out with Miguel and they get in a minor car accident. Johnny and Consuelo find them. Consuelo keeps out of sight and discovers her father's secret.

Paula is still running around blaming all the brothers for destroying her office. When she finds out that Gaspar gave her mother a defective car, she orders him out of the house.

Consuelo continues to tell her mother that she is going out with Lucas when she is with Johnny.

Juan shows Paula that he had her office rebuilt. He tells her that he has never had such feelings for a woman before. Paula uses her newfound power over Juan to get him to make her co-administrator of the ranch.

We see that not only do the brothers have cellphones, they have blackberries. They all get an urgent message from Juan. When they assemble at Paula's office, Juan gives them the news about Paula's new position. They are impactados.
 

GENERAL

I wish we could correct our posts; I just realized I typed "longer" when it should have been "shorter."


HEREDEROS -- Lunes

Paula is using any pretext to attempt to oust Juan's brothers. Juan just lost about half of his IQ unless he's following Victoria's rule about keeping enemies close. But I think that's probably too much to hope for.

Rosa is in no position to advise any of her daughters about how to attract and keep men. I'm sure Miguel has cheated on her before.

And while we're at it, since when do women have to get married to be successful in the 21st century? Does Rosa think it's still 1950?

Jose is being a jerk to Beatriz. I'm really disappointed in him.
 

HEREDEROS- I forgot to mention the shirtless woodchopping. I guess the brothers get rid of their frustrations by chopping wood. Both Juan and Lucas were doing that and Gaspar was sort of taking a shower shirtless. I thought maybe he was pantless as well but it wasn't so.
 

ALGUIEN (Monday)

Wowsers! That was some hot make-up/breakup sex Tati and Benja had. Tati feels ashamed about giving in to Benja, showing how hard she has been working to maintain this hard/angry exterior. I wonder if this will help give her some closure and let go of so much of that anger? At least it showed Benja what he's been missing. He and Tati never had issues in the bedroom.

Matilde now has the photo, but why didn't she take it to the cops immediately? I know she was concerned about getting her son out of there, but frankly, her son is in the LEAST danger from Julian. He would kill everyone else, including his precious Piedad, before he would hurt his son. She's also given Rod a cryptic, un-helpful message that Piedad is in danger. How will that help anybody? It will just cause Rod more anxiety, prompt him to escape, and get him in more trouble with the police. And since he has no idea what/who the danger is, he's fighting blind.
 

ALGUIEN -- Monday

Vivi, I agree with everything you said. I found last night's show so angst-producing, I could hardly stand to watch. I'm at the point where I can't wait for it to be over but I can't seem to look away. Matilde's behavior last night was SO frustrating. And instead of escaping from danger, it looks like she put herself right in the crosshairs.

NUEVO RICO, NUEVO POBRE

This is such a wonderful little gem of a comedy. I just wish Telemundo would give it the 7pm slot and banish poor, floundering AURORA to the daytime ghetto. But I guess you can't feed Colombian fare to a largely Mexican American audience. Or that's the conventional wisdom. Too bad. Now that Los Exitosos Gome$ is over, it's the only real comedia on either Telemundo or Univisión.
 

HEREDEROS

I'm just not buying Juan's immediate attraction towards Paula. maybe cuz I dislike her so much. Plus I'm not a fan of 'love at first sight' stories.

I am really fond of Fabian Rios in this tn; he was detestable in Fantasma. what a turnaround.

'wonder who destroyed Paula's office? could it have been either Gaspar or Jose? or both?
 

HEREDEROS - Monday

I learned a new word. Dirección, which I knew meant someone's address, is also the word for a car's steering system. That's what was wrong with the vehicle Gaspar gave Miguel to drive with Sofía.

I think Paula was truly moved by Juan's rebuilding the office. Her Mom feels that Paula's losing sight of her goal, she should stay cool and calm, but apparently Juan's heating her up (and she him).
 

ALGUIEN - Monday

That first 15 minutes, with Tati/Benja fighting and loving, and Matilde trying to escape from having to tell Piedad too much (while trying to hide the picture she stuffed inside her dress!), were gripping. The show just keeps increasing the tension.

Daniel's nervous, and he knows Julian is ratting him out to the police (which was actually a stroke of luck for Julian, to have used that name with Daniela, and now to have Daniel show up).

The only one who's calm is Julian himself, still playing all the angles. But all the little cracks in his plan are starting to add up. I can't wait to see what happens next.
 

Alguien

Vivi great point on Tatiana i think or at least she's gotten most of her anger out of her system and she's ready to move on.

It seems that Camila is getting her lesson in life as well and has to grow up quickly and live on her on. She also has to find a new place to live since she was kick out from her apartment from her mad partying and lifestyle.

I'm glad i wasn't the only one frustrated with Matilde and her stupidity.Last time i checked Rodrigo is locked up in a rehabilitation facility what exactly can he do he's not a trained policed officer. Go to the police with the evidence you have, granted they're not the smartest cops but hey you can't be picky in a situation like this.

Daniel was correct in saying that Julian is setting him up to take the downfall. That's why i see him double crossing him and turning in those pictures he took. Hopefully during the times Julian killed those women he'll have a alibi.

Finally Benja said and did something right for a change beside recognizing how he messed up his marriage. Telling off Piedad she doesn't have the right to keep asking about Rodrigo or upsetting him if she is going to marry Julian.Her excuse he's the father of her child is weak also, while it's true she didn't think about how much she has hurt him by what she has said to him over the phone.

Apparently you can go to sleep in that uncomfortable looking underwear get up Valeria was wearing who knew?

Rodrigo is going to try to escape not good and with Matilde's help, which is even worst?
 

ALGUIEN: Ditto on all the comments.
I guess Matilde is a sort of hysterical character. She keeps telling everyone how nervous she is, and it is not surprising --although frustrating-- that her thinking is so faulty. Also, I think it is hard for her to come out and directly accuse Julian -the father of her child-- which explains her behavior and also explains why she is telling Rod that Piedad is on danger, without telling Piedad directly about her suspicions of Julian.Although another reason might be that she doesn't want to shock or upset Piedad because of her difficult pregnancy.

Re Tatiana and Benjamin -- I still think they are going to reconcile. As usual, Benjamin couldn't think with his head, and used sex to resolve his problem. Possibly if he had talked to her from his heart, she could have forgiven him. By "seducing" her, he only made her feel shame. I was really impressed with the actress playing Tatiana (who to me resembles a young Barbra Streisand in looks). Without saying a word, she really communicated the shame and sorrow she felt after the sexual encounter. She has been able to make the character complex with her acting.

Julian -- I still think in the end, he is going to outsmart Daniel. He must feel secure that he can do it, because he keeps showing up and staring down Daniel's shotgun.

Am really looking forward to seeing what Matilde does with the picture.
 

ALGUIEN—Monday

I so agree with everyone’s comments last night/today. The love/hate scene was perfect in every way, with superlative acting. And at the previews, I was like “OMG, Matilde, what are you doing?” The tension is incredibly intense now. (“gritando-a-la-pantalla” intense)
...Estoy yendo a comprar una botellita de Skin-So-Soft aceite—I’ll need it after all the hand wringing tonight.
 

ALGUIEN

Agree with all earlier comments. That was a very exciting episode. Camilla is definitely between the rock and the hard place. I have some sympathy for her because she did try - twice - to support herself, only to have Tatiana get her fired. Considering the age she's supposed to be, it's not that out of the norm for her to resort to wild parties with her friends when she sees Benja pulling away from her.

I also think, in spite of how much she cooled off after lovemaking, that Tatiana will reconcile with Benja.

And, yes, Mathilde has made all the wrong moves. She knows her ex is El Cazador, but she can't bring herself to go to the police. It did look like her phony excuse about her father's being ill has somewhat mollified Julián. But she's still in terrible danger. The call to Rodrigo was imbecilic. I hope something interferes with his escape plans. That will convince everyone he's guilty. And to attempt his escape with a complete wet-brain like Baltazar! This is the dumbest thing about the novela so far. Why would an intelligent man like Rodrigo believe an anonymous caller saying Piedad was in danger? Especially when he thinks she's living with Julián so why does she need protection?

HEREDEROS

In a way I sort of believe Paula's offer to help with the administration. Sure, she still hopes to quedarse con todo, but in the meanwhile her economics degree may prove useful. I don't quite believe Juan is THAT dumb. I don't think he's doing it 100% because he's falling for her. He feels the responsibility of being the eldest brother, who's been mostly in charge for a long time. I don't think he'd risk the hacienda if he didn't believe Paula could manage the finances well.
 

HEREDEROS

Of course, if Paula is looking to steal it all it would be in her best interests to insure its profitability first.

Is Juan smart enough to know that? I hope so.

In the meantime I hope he can keep his hormones in check. I want him to catch her coming on to any of his brothers.
 

Alguien

Thank you Luisa now she really believes that Rodrigo is not the killer. The evidence is leading them to the killer eventually. Like she pointed out Mauricio must have discovered who the killer was and got murdered and his apartment was wiped cleaned by the killer and they all know Rodrigo was locked up at the time.That guy with the beard must be related to Angel with his stupidity he still wants to claim that Rodrigo has a accomplice.

Piedad getting jealous at seeing Valeria in the magazine sorry i don't feel sorry for her.

Valeria being accosted by the paparazzi in the hospital what kind of security do they have there?

Benaj and Camila dealing with consequences and repercussions from their low down dirty behavior. Doesn't look good for either one of them seems like Benja is trying to wash his hands for once and for all with Camila.Too bad he came to this realization too late to save his marriage.I don't think his daughter catching him with Camila is going to help him get back with Tatiana.

This is just not believable scared as cat Matilde goes to ask Rodrigo about the woman in the picture still not wanting to believe it's Julian. Rodrigo proves to her he he doesn't know who that is and even urges her to go to the police with this info. So now all of a sudden she wants to play Nancy Drew with a serial killer? Sorry if i discovered my ex was a serial killer i be real quick dialing up the cops to investigate.As the saying goes curiosity killed the cat,looks like it's bye bye Matilde.
 

ALGUIEN--Tuesday

Exactamente. I mean, really, Matilde? Why, oh why, couldn't she at least have submitted the photo to Carvajal before embarking on estupidez/locura?

I don't have a very good feeling about this... And I think we're all beyond the virtues of Skin-So-Soft.
 

HEREDEROS- Tuesday
I made the mistake of lying down to watch last night's episode and I think I dozed off.

I did see sex in the pond. I guess the heat of Juan and Paula's desire kept them warm.

It's really not clear whether they have any feelings for each other besides lust.

Jose is being a jerk to Beatrice and now he's told Juan about the baby. Meanwhile, Beatrice has told Efrain that she doesn't love him anymore.

Consuelo tells Rosario about her father's infidelity with Sofia.

Gaspar proposes to Guadalupe but she doesn't want to hurt her father.

Julieta agrees to go back and work on the farm until she finds out that Paula is going to be in charge.

Pedro agrees to work with Paula to split up Juan and Julieta.
 

HEREDEROS -- Martes

I want to knock some sense into Juan, but I don't think he'd listen to anyone.

I don't blame the other brothers for riding away from that meeting in the opening scene.

The whole Sophia/Miguel/Rosa triangle is hilarious, but Rosa should not be talking about Miguel's infidelities with their daughters. This is a generational boundary violation.

But then again, women like Rosa, Sophia, and Paula don't really have friends.

Rosa has one more screw loose than I thought at the idea of all three of her daughters marrying into the del Montes. They deserve careers and the right to choose their own men. It's the 21st century, idiota!

Pedro as Paula's accomplice is only going to end badly.
 

HEREDEROS - Tuesday

Gradually, more and more people are learning the secret, that Jose is the father of Beatríz and Efraín's little boy, Simón. I expect Modesto (Efraín's father) to find out next. Also Pedro, Gaspar and Lucas. And Eleuterio. The absolutely last person to find out will be Efraín, and that's not gonna be pretty.

It's so funny with all the unrequited love. Julieta loves Juan, but he's not so sure he loves her. Pedro loves Julieta, but she doesn't love him. Lucas loves Paula (I think), and she definitely doesn't love him. Rosario loves Lucas, and I don't think he loves her. Efraín loves Beatríz, who doesn't love him. And even the ones who DO love each other have impediments to happiness. What a mess! Let's see if by the end of this novela, everyone has finally settled down with someone who really loves them back. There's a long way to go, but somehow this love mess has to be straightened out.
 

ALGUIEN - Tuesday

How to get yourself killed in 3 easy steps:

1) Find out who you think the assassin is.
2) Follow him to his hideout, without telling anyone else where you're going, or whom you suspect.
3) Pay the price.

This was true for Eva, Mauricio, and apparently now Matilde.
 

ALGUIEN - Tuesday

Doesn't anyone believe in raincoats, or umbrellas anymore? Rodrigo, Matilde, Julián, stop messing up those perfect hairdos! (not sure about Julián here).

I agree how terrible it was that the press were able to harass Valeria at the clinic.

The dinner table at Pedro Pablo's was ridiculous (but cute). They all have to sit on one side of the table for the camera angle. And Benja just does not know how to say no. Camila said if he didn't come out, she'd cause a scene. I was yelling at the screen "let her do that!" It would have been bad for her, but by his coming out and having little Isadora see Camila kissing him, it was much worse.
 

ALGUIEN -- Tuesday

One bright spot last night -- Pedro Pablo getting his priorities straight when faced with a family crisis: a traumatized little girl.

First, he brushes off Luci like a pesky gnat buzzing around his face.

Then, he dismisses Benja's objection to calling Tatiana because it might cause custody problems for him. PP realizes that the only important thing now is a child who needs her mother.
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As for the rest, I could only watch by reminding myself that they grotesque thing in the jar was a rubber prop. I also have hopes that Daniel Vidal may have been able to intervene on Matilde's behalf. Even though she, along with just about every female character, seems to be on a steady diet of stupid pills, I DO NOT want her story to end like this.
 

ALGUIEN

Hombre- LOL at your steps for getting killed. So true. It will be a miracle if Matilde comes out of this alive, but Daniel Vidal could save her. I would feel really bad for their son if his dad kills his mom. Although, that kid has always rubbed me the wrong way- the way he's quick to criticize and rat out his mom, and forgive his dad everything.

Yes, all the women seem to be taking their stupid pills.

NovelaMaven- I also loved the way Pedro Pablo forced the adults to behave like adults. Matilde's last smart move was to stop Tati from making the childish move of calling Camila to gloat about making love to Benja. I can not even imagine how nuclear Tati will get when she hears Isabela saw her dad and aunt kissing and has locked herself in the bathroom. Yikes! I hope there are no knives or guns present.
 

ALGUIEN
I missed a lot last night, I did see Mathilde get out of her car in the rain. I have one question, was Julian already gone from the premises or was he still there? I feel the same way about the son, what a smarmy kid! I wonder if he will follow in his father's footsteps. Now I realize I have another question, I thought I saw in a promo that Julian tells the police he has no idea about the photo, did that already happen? Thanks
 

ALGUIEN-->Hombre de Misterio

Gritando a la pantalla, Hombre? Ah, so it’s not just me…
I was so stirred/upset that I almost forgot to label my post. :-(

I know TN’s follow a rubric for estupidez, but…… I get beside myself while watching these intense scenes.
 

AURORA

Is anyone watching Aurora? I know I said I wasn't going to watch it anymore, but my friend insisted I watch to discuss with her and now I don't understand what is happening (I missed a few episodes). I got that Aurora has a split personality but I am totally confused about which Aurora is in love with Martin- didn't she tell him she was the mother Aurora before she ran into Lorenzo's arms?
 

Alguien

NovelaMaven i loved that scene last night with Pedro Pablo too bad Benja still doesn't get it what being a father and a real man is all about. He should takes notes from Pedro Pablo and apply to himself.

I don't want Matilde end to come either but it doesn't look good for her. They really did a great job with Mauricio's head prop it really did look like him.

The question is will Daniel and Matilde survive tonight?

I always said it was Eva's arrogance and her lack of objectivity that got her killed. If i remember correctly she did call Luisa about going to the area where the heart was buried that the four friends buried. Luisa who has warned her repeatedly before to start suspecting Julian. She didn't want to listen to that warning about her boyfriend. Luisa did ask her to wait for back up but Eva didn't listen and went by herself and told Luisa her location. Luisa once again cautioned her and warned her to wait for backup. At this time Eva was suspended and she wanted to prove to everybody she was still a good cop and she wasn't the one leaking info about the case to Mauricio it turned out later to be Amador. Eva did at one time for a little bit try to cool off her relationship with Julian. Julian was a master at manipulating and did manage to get back on her good side.

In her haste to prove her innocence and to let her fellow co-workers see she was a good cop still. She tried unsuccessfully to capture the killer all by herself. Never suspecting that her boyfriend was manipulating her and getting inside info from her at the time.

At times i would say Eva was like Angel any little evidence she started to suspect and wanted to call that person the killer.

I do wonder now how much of this show we have left since now Matilde knows whether she is killed or not. We know Rodrigo is escaping and he if hears something happen to Matilde hopefully he'll suspect Julian.
 

HEREDEROS - Tuesday

Hombre: when you put it that way, about all the unrequited loves, it is very confusing, laughable, and fun.

UA: yes, it is absurd that Rosa would want all her hijas to marry a del Monte.

matilda1: I am still sort of watching Aurora, mostly >ff>. I believe the real Aurora was hypnotized into wanting Martin. but I'm not too sure of this. I'm hanging in til the ridiculousness is resolved.
 

AURORA

Shallowgal, she was. However, it may still be a while before she realizes it.
 

ALGUIEN -- Tuesday

Worst case scenario:
Rodrigo escapes.
Matilde is killed that same night. The idiot police consider that irrefutable evidence of Rodrigo's guilt.
Julián goes scott free.
 

ALGUIEN

Wow, what a suspenseful episode! Agree with the rest of you that it's very much not in character for fraidy-cat Mathilde to follow Julián. Plus, it looked like she was right behind him. Wouldn't he have noticed her when he got out of the vehicle? Somehow I think she will survive, but I can't say exactly why I believe that.

Boy, every episode seems to knock my theories about Benja and Tati reconciling to one side! I also loved PP telling Lucy to butt out. When oh when will there be retribution for this scheming critter?

Wonder if Camila's suicide attempt (if she actually does it) will soften Tati up any?

And, speaking of stupid pills, Rodrigo breaking out of the rehab center indicated he took a whole bottle. For one thing, it's practically a lead pipe cinch that if he shows up at Julián's place Piedad will reject him. And all he would have accomplished would be making himself look guilty.
 

HEREDEROS - Tuesday

Yes, the whole Sofía/Miguel/Rosa thing is meant to be comic relief. It's not doing it for me because all I want to do is hit the mute button every time Rosa opens her mouth. She's the worst shrew I've seen in a long time. Shrieking at her husband at the dinner table that she isn't prepared to sacrifice any of her luxuries in the face of a bad crop: priceless. He needs to just cut up all her credit cards! In fact, what Miguel needs to do is demonstrate some huevos and put this shrew in her place once and for all.

I'm not liking Beatriz very much. This is sort of a stale plot where the rico playboy toys with the affections of the humble woman. What's ridiculous is that goofy smile she got when she told José that she'd told Efraín that she didn't love him any more. She seems dumb enough to think that will cause him to fall at her feet and tell her he loves her. All she's accomplished by telling him about his paternity is getting him to love Simón. This could bite her you-know-where if he decides down the road to figure out a way to take the child from her and Efraín.
 

HEREDEROS

Jose has a dark side, so this is possible. However, I don't think Juan would approve of such an action.

I really want to know the guys' backstories. Here's hoping we get that soon.
 

Alguien

Well it's a race now to see those catching on that Julian is "El Cazador".

Tatiana had every right to be upset with what was wrong with her daughter. Lola trying to cover up what had happens means she still has learned that's not the right way to go with Tatiana.Surprise that Benja later went to Tatiana and confessed the truth what had upset their daughter he realizes now how much he screwed up and is accepting his marriage is over. I did love Lola grabbing Loca Lucia by the hair and taking out of there listening on family business. I just Pedro Pablo comes up with a plan quick to get her out of their lives once and for all.

Piedad and Rodrigo he had every right to call her out on her betrayal of their love. I was shocked that she did manage to sneak him back in to the rehab clinic. That was a surprising turn of events but it works out the best for Rodrigo first he does have a alibi Piedad if they do discover he escaped from the rehab clinic.Considering last night's events he's going to need it.

Camila sorry she made her bed grow up and deal with the consequences of your actions. No i can't see Tatiana shedding a tear for her if she over doses even though they are sister she already told her she is dead to her from her actions.Tatiana has a type of personality that she gives her all for those she loves she made be hard some time and plain and rude with her straight talk of the obvious. But what you see is what you get she's a good friend and loves those she is close to but betray her trust there's no forgiveness. Some people may not understand or get that but some people are like that in life. That's why i understand where she is coming from with both Benja and Camila crossing a line that i consider unforgivable but that doesn't mean others in the same situation can't forgive this type of offense but a personality like Tatiana's can't.
 

Alguien

Now for the AAAAAaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaarrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrgggggggggggghhhhhhhhhhhh! Moment that would be Matilde and Daniel and the writers for this episode.

Matilde now you beyond a shadow of any type of doubt your ex-husband is a serial killer. He taunts you with the head of your ex-lover Mauricio in a jar. He attacks your mini van with a shovel breaking out the front window and goes Jack Nicholson on you and chokes you as your mini-van stalls. You bite and run him over but not like you should unless you starred in a episode of Mujeres Asesinas then you would have at least done this part right.

So you escaped driving away crazily away from this psycho and stop at what we all in the audience want a local police station or at least get on a major highway keep honking your horn until you get someone to call the highway police for you.

No you stop at the nearest gas station where the store is locked an no one is there. You see change at the outside phone first option who do you call?At this moment please tell me i wasn't the only one saying WTF are you doing idiot you call Tatiana? Is she the damn police be for real no one could be that stupid?

I was so disgusted with that i just said kill her already.
 

Alguien

Julian catches up to Matilde and grabs her roughly hangs up after listening to see who she was talking to. But the gas attendant comes up to them asking what's going on?Julian tries to talk his way out of it calling it a domestic dispute as he puts Matilde in his suv.The gas attendant decides he's doesn't believe Julian and decides to call 911 instead. Julian tries to talk to him to stop him as he gets closer to him he stabs him as Matilde escapes from his suv and gets back into her minivan.

The second WTF moment Daniel comes running up to this scene training his rifle on Julian but he doesn't shoot him.He did have a opportunity to shoot him too, so after Julian kills the gas attendant and he goes wild on him after Matilde escapes again from him.Julian chases after her again in his suv as Daniel gets on the gas attendants motorcycle. Ok first how did he follow both Matilde and Julian on foot and we're supposed to believe he jumps on a motorcycle with a rifle slung across his back and he's not seen or stop by anyone?

The writers really out did themselves with too many WTF moments in this episode.

Don't be mislead by what we've seen we saw the episode ending with Daniel having his rifle trained on Julian. Don't be surprised if he's shot or arrested remember they're not too far from Matilde's accident.

The camera at the gas station did it capture Julian killing the gas attendant we all hope so but we've all have seen plenty of Law and Order shows to know that plenty places like that don't have a working surveillance camera or tape in it.


The cops get a package and they look surprise and some look like they're going to lose their lunch from what's inside of the box. Julian is desperate to see Matilde if she has woken up from her accident but is denied access.
 

ALGUIEN

Blusamurai, I couldn't agree with you more. How do writers who are good enough to develop this sharp, suspenseful story screw up so badly in the most crucial episode of the novela? What in the world was going on with Matilde? I can only hope she was in shock and didn't know what she was doing. And Daniel, the ghost rider, hiding in the bushes and then just appearing in each scene and we don't know how, was almost laughable.

I do think the actors who play Tati and Benjamin deserve major cudos for the acting they have done in the breakup of their marriage. Wow, I have felt every minute of bitterness, revenge, heartbreak and remorse- it has been a complex of feelings and actions that I think are very real and very human even if they are also very disturbing. A great writing and acting job.
 

ALGUIEN

Blu- You perfectly described my feelings while watching the Julian/Matilde/Daniel chase. I was like, what stupidity! But then I realized that I was on the edge of my seat the entire time, and that this was the stuff of horror films. The writers were just indulging in that genre, and it got the reaction they wanted. There's a reason why horror films are written that way (despite the fact that the audience thinks the characters are being immensely stupid).

That being said, I actually don't think people behave as we think they would in real life horror situations. I went to sleep last night listening to NPR and a survivor of the UVA shooting was speaking about the event- how he and his classmates reacted, a what was going through his mind. We think that people start screaming and ducking immediately. That doesn't happen. People don't scream out (the folks in AZ also said this); they are transfixed staring at the killer. This guy's mind kept making up reasonable excuses for why this was happening instead of acceptoing that a crazy man was shooting them up. He explained how his mind went from thinking this man standing there with a gun is a cop, to thinking the school was doing some kind of drill, to even thinking that the classmate who lay dead on top of him was "in on" the drill (acting). It wasn't until he was shot himself that his brain finally accepted what was really going on.

Matilde's brain refused to accept that her ex husband, father of her child, is a serial killer who was about to kill her.
 

AURORA -- Miercoles

I can't believe I'm still watching this, but we finally get to meet Martin's mother. While we don't know everything she's been up to in the past 28 years she seems to be every bit the selfish bitch Lorenzo said she was.

Martin's deafness has to be temporary.

Aurora's split personality has to end as well. I'm hoping that it will be Elizabeth's undoing, but that's overly optimistic.

Federico will get what's coming to him, but Cesar could potentially pay the highest (non-cash) price for it.


HEREDEROS

Paula needs to be kicked over the state line no matter how far away it is.

I'm wondering whether Julieta is actually pregnant. I'm sure Paula will accuse her of faking it.

Jose is still a jerk, but he still doesn't deserve what Efrain threatened to do. Since he hasn't had sex with Beatriz for a long time and suspects that Simon isn't his, he'll be finding out very soon.

WTH could be the issue about Gaspar and Guadalupe?

Miguel is still the village idiot. He will absolutely deserve the consequences of his infidelity.

Rosa's snobbery is hilariously absurd.
 

HEREDEROS - Wednesday

I think the problem with Gaspar and Guadalupe is that Eleuterio, Lupe's Dad, hates the Del Monte family, because the father (Emilio?) had an affair with Eleuterio's wife. Since I think she's dead, maybe he also blames the family for that. So he doesn't want Lupe marrying anyone from that family.

Julieta being pregnant is a fun, typical novela surprise. As usual, the "good" girls get pregnant immediately, the "bad" girls have all sorts of sex, but usually have to fake their pregnancies or steal the good girl's baby. Let's see if that happens this time. Paula's definitely capable of it.
 

ALGUIEN

Wow, just wow! I didn't reflect on any failings by the writers. I was just absolutely on the edge of my seat completely gripped by last night's episode. And how they tortured me - breaking away from Mathilde in that car to Tati and Benja. Hurry up, get back to Mathilde! Although I do acknowledge excellent acting by Tati and Benja.

I was also screaming "No! Not the phone booth at the deserted gas station!" But I thought the final upshot of the scene was perfect. Maybe Mathilde will be in a coma for a while. I had said yesterday that I thought she'd survive. But my conviction was hard to maintain last night. And how about that "Helloooo" from Julián as he reaches through the shattered windshield!

It's too soon for Mathilde to have told the police. They're only in últimos semanas, not capítulos.

And, NovelaMaven, you gave me a cold chill with your worst case scenario. That Mathilde would be killed with Rodrigo escaped - and thus accused of killing her.

Piedad was cool as a cucumber getting him back into the hospital.

Anyway, I loved last night's episode, every minute of it.
 

ALGUIEN - Wednesday

ITA was all of Blusamurai's (and everyone else's comments). It was a super exciting episode, though, with surprises, one after the next. Julian has a bunch more problems now (his injuries have to be explained, possible security camera, Tatiana heard Matilde say "Julian, no", police are monitoring his phone so he has to be careful with his alibi, since he spoke to Piedad, and of course, what if Matilde wakes up and tells all?). It's interesting that all 3 boys were out last night, Rodrigo, Benjamin and Julian, and no one can account for all the time, although they all have partial alibis.

I think Matilde left her purse (and the famous photo) back at Julian's lair, so maybe that bit of evidence is shot. Except that Rod saw it. Maybe his description will mean something, but who believes him, anyway?

I love all the twists and turns.
 

ALGUIEN
Last night's episode was not what I expected, have to rewatch it tonight, but it partially answered my question about an upcoming event on the novela. I now understand how it can take place, and I have to say I give credit to the writers. So sorry for my intrigue, but I know on this site you can't give things away but it was killing me trying to figure out how this upcoming "event" will happen. My apologies if anyone is getting annoyed with me. What I find interesting on the wikipedia website it says this novela ends on the 28th of January, and if so I think that next week's episodes will be the quickest. The acting by Tati and Benja were superb last night. While I loved this novela, I am not ready to see one of this genre again for quite a while.
 

HEREDEROS
I have to ask is Paula really the legitimate daughter. The mother seems to sleep with anyone, was there actual proof of Paula being the daughter? I don't know why but I keep thinking Gaudalupe is the actual daughter and her father knows it. I now fastforward through every scene with Paula unless she's with Juan. She's become a one note character, I kind of feel sorry for Julieta and if she's pregnant I would love to see her with Juan. Juan looked a bit scared of Paula in one scene yesterday that surprised me.
 

HEREDEROS

HdM, isn't the fact that the brothers are adopted general knowledge in that area? If that is truly the case, there is no risk of incest if Guadalupe is actually the daughter of Don Emilio.

It is not reasonable to blame a son for the sins of his father.

We could also, of course, have a plot twist saying that one or more of the boys is the actual illegitimate son of Don Emilio, conceived in adultery or a test tube and gestated by a surrogate. I can see Juan, Jose, and Gaspar being related to each other and I think these actors were cast for that reason. It's a better casting job then in PDG.

I definitely can imagine Paula stealing Julieta's baby. She takes far too much pleasure at the pain she inflicts on others.
 

AURORA

UA: I too am still watching Aurora. I'm a sucker for beautiful people. I really like Cesar, and have been hoping since the start that he'll end up with Vanessa's daughter, since she seems to be the most virtuous of the lot.


HEREDEROS

HdM: you're right about Eleuterio's wife's affair w/ del Monter father, hence his anger toward that family.

Julieta seems to be a decent/honest woman, so I hope she's not faking the pregnancy. I too would prefer her to end up w/Juancho.
 

Alguien

Vivi i think i was transported back into watching a horror movie last night watching this episode.If you notice our Nancy Drew was wearing high heels like the women who are getting chased by the killer in horror do.

I was yelling at my TV for the whole hour.

First run Matilde run oh no the car the mini-van is stalling. Run him over now do it again you didn't run him over good enough. Do it like the woman did last week in the episode of Mujeres Asesinas.

Call 911 Matilde nooooooooooooooooooo why are you callling Tataiana you idiot where's something i need to throw it at my TV screen but not break it. Say it Julian is the killer he's Cazador.


Ok how in the world did you get here chasing them on foot?
Shoot him Daniel, shoot him you got a clear shot go ahead and shoot him.

I didn't say i wasn't riveted but just so darn frustrated,this close to getting him caught. I needed to drink some of my Jamaican rum after watching that episode.

Julian took Matilde's purse from her with his mother's picture i do believe he left it behind when he went to go chase after her.He does have a noticeable limp but i'm sure he's going to lie and say he fell in some way.
 

HEREDEROS -

Urban Anthropologist, ITA that it's not reasonable to blame a son (Gaspar) for the sins of his father (Emilio). But when has that ever stopped telenovela characters from holding grudges? :)
 

ALGUIEN -

I know it VERY unlikely, but maybe Piedad could notice that every time someone disappears or gets killed or hurt, Julian has some minor injury. He had that bump on the head when Mauricio disappeared, and how he's got some sort of limp he has to explain to Piedad. But of course she'll trust him totally.
 

HEREDEROS

HdM: Never.

Yes, it would be interesting if Paula is proven to not be Don E's daughter and Guadalupe is. But that would provoke courtroom proceedings for months unless the guys' lawyers tell Paula "Take $1 million to forget this and go away forever or your name will be dragged through the mud." and she accepts. Which she wouldn't, of course.
 

ALGUIEN
I agree --WOW!!! What an episode.

Some additional comments: I saw Julian look at the security camera. It seemed as though he made a decision not to do anything about it. But that could definitely contribute to his downfall.

Daniel: It seemed to me that he wanted to shoot Julian, but couldn't bring himself to do it --at least that's what I thought the actor was playing. Don't forget he didn't kill Julian's mother, and maybe the rifle is a defensive protection, but like most of us he can't bring himself to kill. But why didn't he shout or do something to help Matilde? He seems a bit wierd. It struck me funny when he told Julian that he was screwed now that Matilde knew, and what was he going to do --send her on a trip to the Caribbean?

I found it interesting that Julian told Matilde that the reason he initially almost ran he over was to scare her. He felt she was sliding toward becoming a bad mother because of her relationship with Mauricio and he hoped the near-miss would change things. I am hoping --and looking forward to more info about Julian and his past come out as this winds down.

Is there any chance that Matilde will live, but will have amnesia and be unable to implicate Julian? I guess this depends on how long the ultimas semanas go on.

Finally, I still think there is a chance Tatiana and Benja will reconcile.

Does anyone know what a "Fiscal" is in the american police system?

Really looking forward to tonight's episode.
 

Fiscal=District Attorney
 

NJ Sue and others, I'm racking my brain about why Daniel didn't shoot Julián. Could it be because he has not yet received all of the money? Didn't Julián say he'd brought part in that paper bag with handles, but couldn't get all of it together so quickly. Daniel, I think, jumped to the same conclusion I did - he's stalling on the money hoping the cops will grab up Daniel.

He may not have wanted to kill the goose that lays golden eggs! Maybe the gun was to be used, as before, to threaten Julián but not really shoot him. Although, of course, it did look like he was trying to get him in the crosshairs outside the filling station (shades of Sarah Palin!).
 

Herederos:

Been away for a week and have been trying to catch up...so many new faces/characters to remember/get to know.

Could somebody help in providing some sort of "cheat sheet" for the 5 brothers and their potential counterparts? Names, good/evil, occupation and stuff like that would help a lot...

I'm enjoying the scenery a lot! Makes me wanna go out west!!

Thanks
 

HEREDEROS-

CanuckFan, if you go back to last week's World of Telemundo recaps (January 10th), there was a big summary of the story and all the characters, spread out over several comments.
 

CanuckFan, Telemundo posts their novelas on their website. Can you play them in Canada?
 

Herederos:

Hombre: thanks for that tip...I'll go check out that post.

UA: surprisingly, yes...I can view the videos at Telemundo.com -- I discovered this over the summer as I automatically assumed I wouldn't be able to view them (being that T is owned by NBC and I cannot view those videos) ... the only novelas I watch are on Telemundo simply because I can easily access everything at their site (granted, there are other ways to watch shows but it's just easier when you use the official sites)!

EFDE was my "first" novela I watched from start to beginning during it's actual run....and I have my fingers crossed that hopefully some of my fave actors/actresses from EFDE will continue on Telemundo for that exact reason--so I can watch!
 

HEREDEROS -

Rosa continues to be the pushy Mom, trying to corner Juan into agreeing to marry Julieta, now that the pregnancy has been confirmed (Juan later told Juli he would, but she hasn't replied yet), buying all sorts of baby things, then trying to shame Juan into paying for them (he did, with a blank check).

Sofia was a bit mean in telling Beatriz to dress better, and not to bring her little boy to the shop (since Sofia and Rosa are now partners).

Paula keeps trying to force spineless Pedro to do her bidding, somehow sabotage Juan and Julieta, which Pedro keeps grudgingly going along with.

Rosario seems to be making some headway in her quest for Lucas, looks as if she'll get a job at the ranch working with him, but of course, Lucas only has eyes for Paula (good luck on that one, buddy!)

And Eleuterio (Guadalupe's Dad, Modesto's brother, Miguel's friend) now has eyes for Bertha, the super organized employee of the Miguel-Rosa family. And maybe she'll like him back.

Yes, this is the kind of story you almost need a chart to keep track of everyone, even though not much is actually happening.
 

ALGUIEN - Thursday

Ugggg. After the previous episode's excitement, all the air has been let out of the balloon. Most of Julian's problems are solved. Security camera at the gas station? He somehow uses a key to get in, rips out the entire recorder, takes it away. Check. Matilde could talk? Nope, she's paralyzed and is incapable of speech. Check. Piedad noticing Julian's minor injuries? Are you kidding? Of course not, they're hugging, he's doing everything he can to stop smirking.

Of course there's still Daniel Vidal.

On the Lucy front, Pedro Pablo is doing a yeoman effort in resisting the nearly naked naiad sleeping just a few feet from him. Benja urged him to keep being "the only faithful man left in the world". I personally beg to disagree about this, but it's fun to watch.
 

ALGUIEN

And Tatiana discovering her sister unconscious from a suicide attempt with sleeping pills. She may have been mad at Camila, but this really knocked her for a loop. And Camila's not out of the woods, she could die, have brain damage, they don't know yet.
 

ALGUIEN - THURSDAY

Hombre, yes, Julián manages so far to skate on the attacks on Mathilde. It's maddening!

One thing that struck me about Julián's conversation with Mathilde in the Murder Cellar was that he had followed her and made her seem like a target for El Cazador in order to scare her into being a better mother. Say what? The sick puppy was venting at her for having a job instead of being his warped idea of the perfect mother.

Usually in TNs suicide attempts are spiteful acts by the obsessed "other woman" who wants the galán back. In this case it seemed almost understandable. Camila is a bit of a lost soul right now. I doubt she and Benja would work out even if he were up for it, but she can't let go. And, if it somehow heals some of the wound between the two sisters, it could be a good thing. I think she'll be OK, insofar as the pills she took.

I was expecting Julián to somehow find out Piedad had seen Rodrigo and for there to be an explosion, but no.

Also, I guess no one picked up on how fast he got to the hospital, right after the ambulance. I don't think anyone at the hospital called him, although everyone assumed they had.

Valeria isn't looking too stable right now. I hope she manages to stay off drugs.
 

HEREDEROS - THURSDAY

I'm about ready to bail on this one. I can't stand Paula. Of course, it would be too good to be true if he ended up with Julieta. So far she seems very nice. It does seem she really is expecting Juan's child. Unless there's a miscarriage, this would be a very unusual thing - for a galán to NOT end up with the mother of his child

I also can't stand Rosa. She's too over the top. And, another weird thing is the way Berta is present at every discussion family members have about their personal lives - and chimes in with her opinion! Please.

I wish the actor who played the adored husband in El Clon and now is Eleuterio would shave for God's sake. That's a poor excuse for a beard he has. Also, it's ridiculous in a 21st Century novela that a father insists he can blackball a young woman's boyfriend.
 

Alguien

Hombre i'm feeling ya after Wednesday episode this was kind of flat.

Daniel lets the murderer get away with a warning if the mother of his son dies he turn him in? What about the gas station attendant and all of his other victims? I agree Daniel just wants to get paid.

Piedad sorry i'm not sympathetic with her at all she is just so frustrating and confusing.Rodrigo was right in telling her off having his baby but on the verge of marrying Julian.

Loca Lucia tries to seduce Pedro Pablo he better work fast and get her out of his house. I got the feeling from last night when Lola went to her room she is ready to explode again and do something to Miss crazy.

I don't know if that was the keys he used to get into the gas station or a tool to open the door. But sometimes those places do have another surveillance camera there. What i want to know is the other rider who drove up and saw a man lying face down on the ground if he got Julian's license plate number and report it to the cops?

Luisa thinks it's no coincidence that Matilde has this accident and she has info on knowing who Cazador is. She's correct but with her paralyzed and unable to talk and perhaps in a coma she's no help.

Tatiana goes to confront Camila and discovers her sister tried to commit suicide, seems she may still care ever so reluctantly for her little sis.She correctly calls 911 instead of calling Benja or Lola and everyone except the right people.

Piedad calls Benja who's having a little pow wow with Pedro Pablo trying to give him some advice on getting Loca Lucia out of his house before he is tempted by temptation. Piedad comes over and informs them about Rodrigo escape from the rehab clinic, Benja ask Piedad if she's told Julian this yet she said no.

Pedro Pablo tells them both about Julian asking for a loan against their practice which leaves them both in shock.

The police are at the hospital where Matilde is at trying to find out what happen. Julian is hanging around trying to make sure Matilde doesn't talk.

Luisa gets a special delivery at the police station, the box is check to make sure it's not a bomb. it's open by Luisa and everyone where they discover the decomposed body parts of Mauricio.

Julian calls Piedad about Matilde's accident as the other two follow her to see him.He informs them what has happened as Piedad consoles him.

Baltazar is surprised that Rodrigo is in his room.

Daniel packs up the incriminating evidence the hearts and put them in a box. I have no clue what or where he's going to send them too. The police no that's too easy probably too Piedad.

Valeria goes to see Pedro Pablo telling him that it has to be someone from their clinic who is doing this. Rodrgio says it's Julian but maybe this is misleading whether he's connecting the dots that Julian is the killer. The cops want to talk to a scared and panic looking Julian.
 

Alguien

The hospital did call Julian when he was driving away from going back to the gas station to get the surveillance camera. The called him on his cell and told him about Matilde's accident and he asked if she was awake yet? What i'm curious about is how they knew to call him and where did they get that info because he took her purse from her when they were down in the cellar? Maybe she had some other info in her mini-van so they could make these calls?
 

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novelera: Don't give up on this tn yet. I too hope Juan ends up w/Julieta. She seems to be upstanding, unless Paula's actions inadvertently turns her into a not-so-nice gal. Paula is detestable.

I'm looking forward to the Lucas/Rosario development. I loved how she expressed her feelings to Lucas on how he handled her sister Consuelo.
 

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Shallowgal, one of the things that keeps me watching is the fascinating change of personalities in SO many characters I've recently seen in other novelas.

Pablo was a closeted gay man in Más Sabe el Diablo. Rosario was Latifa in El Clon and appears MUCH younger in this one. Guadalupe was Genoveva in Doña Bárbara and Consuelo was Victorino Manjareés' fiancé in Victorinos.
 

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novelera: siii, Pablo was Cristian in MSED (loved this tn) and even though his role then was that of a weak brother, I nevertheless thought him attractive. And I always thought Latifa was beautiful in El Clon; they just made her look older to play the mommy part. 'did not watch the other two tns.
 

ALGUIEN

Great updates on last night's show everyone. It burned me up that not only is Julian getting away with his latest crime, he is also getting sympathy and shoulders to cry on, left and right. Arrrgggg!!

So did Julian send the box of the remains to the cops earlier? Did we see that? And indeed, where is Daniel sending the hearts and head?

The other thing that burned me up last night-- Piedad telling Benja and PP that Rod is losing his mind. WTF? Why? Because he's freaking out that the mother of his child on the way, the love of his life, is all of a sudden shacking up with and engaged to one of his supposed best friends?! I think she was have freaked out even more if the shoe was on the other foot. I thought his reaction was rather restrained, considering. Quit putting the blame on Rod and his issues Piedad. Deal with your own issues.
 

Vivi, AMEN!!

Piedad is becoming more and more unlikeable. I agree completely that that conclusion that Rod is mentally ill was totally from left field.

The only thing that made me wonder if she had a tiny bit of justification was Rod asking for calmantes, apparently out of the usual for him. And he seems very depressed, not reacting to people coming into his room.

But Piedad hasn't seen that - only, as you say, his rather restrained reaction to discovering that ring on her finger. This is a big contrast to the way she went ballistic when she thought he was seeing Daniela - after she'd already broken up with him, no less!
 

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On Wednesday I wrote that I thought Matilde would survive and maybe have amnesia. I'm so glad they didn't use that old telenovela chestnut. But to not be able to talk or move?? The not moving part of course means she can't even write any messages. These writers certainly follow-up on the details --also Julian going back for the camera.

Vivi, I can't believe Angel is a District Attorney. I'm glad I'm not in his district.

novelera: You are probably right about Daniel not killing Julian because of the money. Besides the hearts, did we see what Daniel sent? I couldn't figure out exactly what was in the box when the police opened it; just saw their reaction. Somehow I don't think Julian would have sent them anything. He is not toying with them at this point and it would not take suspicion off him or point to anyone else. Since Rod is
in the Rehab, it could not point to him. I think whatever is in the box probably came from Daniel. Also, I don't think Julian was angry with Matilde for having a job. It was because she was hopping into bed with Mauricio Ostos.

Re Piedad thinking Rod was crazy --that did seem to come out of left field, but she might have been responding to the fact that he escaped from the rehab center which put him in more jeopardy, and maybe she was thinking he was crazy because he did such a stupid thing.
 

Vivi you're so right with your comments concerning Piedad.

What Rod is crazy? So what are you when you went sand confronted Blanca Gordon in the hospital? Or how about how you were so jealous of Rod's relationship with Daniela you were stalking him? Now you get upset because Valeria is standing by him like everyone said he has the right to react that way you're carrying his child. Considering his past violence with you i do believe he's been more than restrained with his emotions.

If anyone needs to be locked up you need to check your own self into some facility on how you keep sending both of these guys mix signals.If anyone caught after she told Benja and Pedro Pablo escaping the rehab clinic she told them that Valeria told Rodrigo that's why he did it. When she said this you could just hear how jealous she is that he has someone else a female who cares about him.
 

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I think Mathilde being unable to speak or move (but her mind will function perfectly) is going to set up scenes where Julián keeps coming to the hospital and threatening her or maybe even trying to kill her off. Plus we'll get to see wide, terrified eyes from Mathilde as she's being badly scared by him. It's novela lengthening that she can't even move at all - or she could write what she knows on a sheet of paper or small blackboard.
 

I forgot to add if we go to early in the show when Piedad was in some sort of relationship with Julian then it may not have been intimate. But they were supposed to go away together to Haiwaii, they have a little get together and guess who came to the party Rodrigo. He makes Piedad recall their past and then she starts to waver she cancels her trip with Julian who was mad and frustrated i believe he was going to propose to her on the trip.

Rodrigo is cleaned up and begs Piedad to forgive him and would like to start up again but Piedad has her doubts but she eventually forgives him and sleeps with him.Julian soon learns this and his resentment and anger toward grow especially when she dump him for Rodrigo.

So it sounds like this is a pattern with Piedad between the two men.
 

OFF-TOPIC

I thought the mature Latifa was more beautiful than when she was young. She looked more confident and sophisticated (even if she didn't really feel that way).

I suspect that Reina will replace Algien; that seems the right time slot for it.