Saturday, January 22, 2011
El Mundo de Telemundo: Week of January 24 -- Discuss Amongst Yourselves
Last week’s comments were terrific. Thanks everyone!
NUEVO RICO, NUEVO POBRE
This is for real: Last Friday there was a piece in BBC Mundo about how Venezuelan authorities pulled the Colombian novela, Chepe Fortuna, off the air because:
…promueve la intolerancia política y racial, así como la xenofobia y la apología del delito.
(...it promotes political and racial intolerance as well as xenophobia and a rationale for crime.)
Here’s the article, if you’re curious: http://tinyurl.com/66qt9qa
It seems the novela features a minor character named Venezuela (and another, her sister, Colombia). Venezuela is characterized as a large, kind of vulgar, dark-skinned woman who, when told that her small dog, Huguito, is missing, cries out tearfully:
¿Qué va a ser de Venezuela sin su Huguito?
(What’s to become of Venezuela without her Huguito?)
Her less than sympathetic friend answers:
Va a ser libre, Venezuela...
(You’re gonna be free, Venezuela…)
… because lately that Huguito of yours has been sticking his nose in where it doesn’t belong.
Hugo Chavez didn’t see the humor, apparently. And we’re not likely to see SNL Venezuela any time soon.
I thought of this when I was watching the latest episode of the Colombian comedy, Nuevo Rico, Nuevo Pobre, in which the newly minted and totally unprepared executive of a major shipping company says in a televised speech: Yankees Go Home! The "Yankees" in question are empresarios who have given the Colombian firm an ultimatum: if they want their business, the Colombians will have to do some belt-tightening and lay off 200 employees. Talk about Ugly Americans.
I’m so glad we live in a country where we get to decide whether to laugh or switch the channel.
That’s it. Just had to get that off my chest.
HEREDEROS DEL MONTE – OR – All the Pretty Horses…and the People Ain’t Bad Either.
Lots of amor no correspondido (unrequited love), uncertain parentage, guapos y guapas. I’m happy to enjoy it vicariously through your comments. Have at!
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ALGUIEN TE MIRA – As of Friday
As we sit at home and gnash our teeth, Julián just keeps getting away with it. Arrrrrggggggggghhh!!! And while Matilde lies unconscious with the direst of prognoses, Julián and the ever-more odious Piedad make out in the waiting room. And Julían waits for an opportunity to get to Matilde – “I’m the father of her child! And I’m a doctor!” – and finish the job he started.
In what may have been the last phone call of Matilde’s life (remember how she frantically dialled Tatiana from the deserted gas station), she cried out Julián’s name. And now the moronic Tatiana is determined to hide that fact from the police. In that decision she is supported by the even more moronic Lola.
Mauricio’s gruesome remains – minus the head – are delivered to the police. The idiot Fiscal insists that Mauricio’s death is unrelated to el Cazador. Amador and Carvajal know better, but not much.
(Can anyone tell I'm getting a little impatient with these people?)
Only Rodrigo has hit upon the truth: the killer is Julián. Rodrigo is trying to keep Valeria from coming to Julián’s attention but she insists on taking risks in her efforts to prove his innocence. I wasn’t worried about her before, but I am now.
Camila is finally a success at something: with her deliberate overdose of ‘calmantes’, she is effectively punishing her sister and her brother-in-law.
Daniel Vidal is still out there lurking in the shadows. Back at the killing ground, he could have stopped Julián from harming Matilde; later he could have prevented the murder of the good samaritan at the gas station. At the very least, if he didn’t want to get his hands dirty, he could have alerted the police. But he is apparently interested in keeping Julián alive and at liberty so he can bleed him dry financially – murder victims past, present and future be damned!
We are waaaaaaaaaay past a possible happy ending. I only hope that the police recognize Julián’s guilt and they are able to stop him. And I’d rather see him dead than in jail because that’s the only way to stop him from hurting anyone else.
How do you think this is going to end?
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AURORA
I got nothin’. Your comments are welcome.
LA REINA DEL SUR
Like Urban Anthropologist, I’m assuming La Reina will be replacing Alguien. I’ve read that it is the most expensive Telemundo production to date and that Kate del Castillo was author Arturo Pérez-Reverte’s personal choice for the title role.
A few of you have read or are reading the novel. I’ve gone back to it and am trying to read a chapter a week. The prose is already very cinematic and I have a feeling that the script will often use the original literally.
I’ll leave you with this quote, something Teresa remembers:
Raimundo Dávila Parra aka el Guëro Dávila: Mejor, solía decir, cinco años como rey que cincuenta como buey. (p.50)
(Better, he used to say, five years as a king than 50 as an ox. buey: literally, ox but in Mexico = idiot, fool)
Okay, now it's your turn.
NUEVO RICO, NUEVO POBRE
This is for real: Last Friday there was a piece in BBC Mundo about how Venezuelan authorities pulled the Colombian novela, Chepe Fortuna, off the air because:
…promueve la intolerancia política y racial, así como la xenofobia y la apología del delito.
(...it promotes political and racial intolerance as well as xenophobia and a rationale for crime.)
Here’s the article, if you’re curious: http://tinyurl.com/66qt9qa
It seems the novela features a minor character named Venezuela (and another, her sister, Colombia). Venezuela is characterized as a large, kind of vulgar, dark-skinned woman who, when told that her small dog, Huguito, is missing, cries out tearfully:
¿Qué va a ser de Venezuela sin su Huguito?
(What’s to become of Venezuela without her Huguito?)
Her less than sympathetic friend answers:
Va a ser libre, Venezuela...
(You’re gonna be free, Venezuela…)
… because lately that Huguito of yours has been sticking his nose in where it doesn’t belong.
Hugo Chavez didn’t see the humor, apparently. And we’re not likely to see SNL Venezuela any time soon.
I thought of this when I was watching the latest episode of the Colombian comedy, Nuevo Rico, Nuevo Pobre, in which the newly minted and totally unprepared executive of a major shipping company says in a televised speech: Yankees Go Home! The "Yankees" in question are empresarios who have given the Colombian firm an ultimatum: if they want their business, the Colombians will have to do some belt-tightening and lay off 200 employees. Talk about Ugly Americans.
I’m so glad we live in a country where we get to decide whether to laugh or switch the channel.
That’s it. Just had to get that off my chest.
HEREDEROS DEL MONTE – OR – All the Pretty Horses…and the People Ain’t Bad Either.
Lots of amor no correspondido (unrequited love), uncertain parentage, guapos y guapas. I’m happy to enjoy it vicariously through your comments. Have at!
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ALGUIEN TE MIRA – As of Friday
As we sit at home and gnash our teeth, Julián just keeps getting away with it. Arrrrrggggggggghhh!!! And while Matilde lies unconscious with the direst of prognoses, Julián and the ever-more odious Piedad make out in the waiting room. And Julían waits for an opportunity to get to Matilde – “I’m the father of her child! And I’m a doctor!” – and finish the job he started.
In what may have been the last phone call of Matilde’s life (remember how she frantically dialled Tatiana from the deserted gas station), she cried out Julián’s name. And now the moronic Tatiana is determined to hide that fact from the police. In that decision she is supported by the even more moronic Lola.
Mauricio’s gruesome remains – minus the head – are delivered to the police. The idiot Fiscal insists that Mauricio’s death is unrelated to el Cazador. Amador and Carvajal know better, but not much.
(Can anyone tell I'm getting a little impatient with these people?)
Only Rodrigo has hit upon the truth: the killer is Julián. Rodrigo is trying to keep Valeria from coming to Julián’s attention but she insists on taking risks in her efforts to prove his innocence. I wasn’t worried about her before, but I am now.
Camila is finally a success at something: with her deliberate overdose of ‘calmantes’, she is effectively punishing her sister and her brother-in-law.
Daniel Vidal is still out there lurking in the shadows. Back at the killing ground, he could have stopped Julián from harming Matilde; later he could have prevented the murder of the good samaritan at the gas station. At the very least, if he didn’t want to get his hands dirty, he could have alerted the police. But he is apparently interested in keeping Julián alive and at liberty so he can bleed him dry financially – murder victims past, present and future be damned!
We are waaaaaaaaaay past a possible happy ending. I only hope that the police recognize Julián’s guilt and they are able to stop him. And I’d rather see him dead than in jail because that’s the only way to stop him from hurting anyone else.
How do you think this is going to end?
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AURORA
I got nothin’. Your comments are welcome.
LA REINA DEL SUR
Like Urban Anthropologist, I’m assuming La Reina will be replacing Alguien. I’ve read that it is the most expensive Telemundo production to date and that Kate del Castillo was author Arturo Pérez-Reverte’s personal choice for the title role.
A few of you have read or are reading the novel. I’ve gone back to it and am trying to read a chapter a week. The prose is already very cinematic and I have a feeling that the script will often use the original literally.
I’ll leave you with this quote, something Teresa remembers:
Raimundo Dávila Parra aka el Guëro Dávila: Mejor, solía decir, cinco años como rey que cincuenta como buey. (p.50)
(Better, he used to say, five years as a king than 50 as an ox. buey: literally, ox but in Mexico = idiot, fool)
Okay, now it's your turn.
Labels: alguien, aurora, herederos, reina-sur, telemundo
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I haven't read this novel, but have read several other Perez-Reverte novels (in English, of course) and like them very much. Don't have access to Telemundo, so can't watch.
La Paloma
La Paloma
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: Saturday, January 22, 2011 at 12:41:00 PM EST
: Saturday, January 22, 2011 at 12:41:00 PM EST
Thanks, Novelamaven. I've been surfing between Hererderos and TDA. I do love the ranch setting of Here and seeing familiar faces from Dona Barbara and Zorro. When I tuned in for the first time on Thursday, I thought that Paula [MF] was the villain. I was surprised because I knew that she was the spunky heroine of Zorro. Is Paula really the one who will end up with the MC character? Is her mother a villain ? Why are they on the ranch ? I've never seen Julieta before, but the actress seems to have only one expression. ~~~Susanlynn, late to the party and lost in cyberspace
Permalink posted by : Saturday, January 22, 2011 at 2:26:00 PM EST
: Saturday, January 22, 2011 at 2:26:00 PM EST
GENERAL
La Paloma, can you access their website? They upload their episodes the day after they air.
AURORA -- Viernes 1/22/11
These events may be out of order:
Natalia gave Nina hell for what she did to Martin and tried to give her a reality check (Like she doesn't need one herself). Cesar eavesdropped from the doorway. He packed his bag and informed Natalia and Nina that he was moving out, saying "I don't know who you are anymore."
Martin's deafness was temporary; he recovered his hearing in Gustavo's clinic. The timing coincided with Aurora having another identity crisis.
Elizabeth still is messing with Aurora's head (I don't think Gustavo realizes the extent of this) and we should be close to the revelation that there is only one Aurora.
Vanessa got down with that slimeball Federico in exchange for his silence about Cesar's illegal activities, but they got caught by Blanca, Vickie, and Nina. Cesar walked in on the confrontation and resigned his chauffeur job. Vickie is understandably freaked over this. Vanessa told Cesar why she did this and he went after Federico. With a handgun.
Despite Gustavo's efforts at getting Martin to stay in the clinic, he got up and went out, followed by Aurora just in time to prevent Cesar from blowing Federico away.
Rebeca insisted upon talking to Martin alone, but he wasn't having any. She then tried to tell him that she was dying.
The episode ended with Natalia admitting to Lorenzo that she isn't pregnant.
My take: Lorenzo and Martin are going to freak and possibly fight after they get over losing their lunches when they realize what this means.
Martin's unwillingness to believe Rebeca is understandable and I agree with him. If this were a Televisa novela she might be telling the truth, but who knows?
I nominate Federico as Elizabeth's next murder victim. He needs to die (or at least disappear).
La Paloma, can you access their website? They upload their episodes the day after they air.
AURORA -- Viernes 1/22/11
These events may be out of order:
Natalia gave Nina hell for what she did to Martin and tried to give her a reality check (Like she doesn't need one herself). Cesar eavesdropped from the doorway. He packed his bag and informed Natalia and Nina that he was moving out, saying "I don't know who you are anymore."
Martin's deafness was temporary; he recovered his hearing in Gustavo's clinic. The timing coincided with Aurora having another identity crisis.
Elizabeth still is messing with Aurora's head (I don't think Gustavo realizes the extent of this) and we should be close to the revelation that there is only one Aurora.
Vanessa got down with that slimeball Federico in exchange for his silence about Cesar's illegal activities, but they got caught by Blanca, Vickie, and Nina. Cesar walked in on the confrontation and resigned his chauffeur job. Vickie is understandably freaked over this. Vanessa told Cesar why she did this and he went after Federico. With a handgun.
Despite Gustavo's efforts at getting Martin to stay in the clinic, he got up and went out, followed by Aurora just in time to prevent Cesar from blowing Federico away.
Rebeca insisted upon talking to Martin alone, but he wasn't having any. She then tried to tell him that she was dying.
The episode ended with Natalia admitting to Lorenzo that she isn't pregnant.
My take: Lorenzo and Martin are going to freak and possibly fight after they get over losing their lunches when they realize what this means.
Martin's unwillingness to believe Rebeca is understandable and I agree with him. If this were a Televisa novela she might be telling the truth, but who knows?
I nominate Federico as Elizabeth's next murder victim. He needs to die (or at least disappear).
HEREDEROS – Viernes 1/22/11
José walked in on Paula when she was taking a bath. After a childish game of José trying to force her out of the tub and Paula insisting she won't talk until he gives her a towel, she threatened him that she would tell Efrain that the baby is his if he tried to stand in her way. Of course she smirked as he went out the door. I am really weary of her games.
When Sophia told Paula that Juan marrying Julieta is virtually a guarantee because of the baby, Paula told her she was in love with Juan. Hell hasn't frozen over yet.
She went after Juan, saying he shouldn't marry Julieta out of any sense of obligation and attempting to imply that Julieta's baby may not be his. He looked like he wasn't going to fall for this, but Paula just kept coming after him, like Kathleen Turner in Body Heat. It looks like she's succeeding with Juan, who seems less eager than ever to marry Julieta, This is not good news.
Paula chewed out the guys over Rosario coming to work on the ranch, saying for the 1234567th time that she is the boss.
Consuelo got Miguel to support her relationship with Johnny and said so in front of Rosa, who is not pleased that Rosario is working side by side with Lucas. She gave her an absurd lecture about washing up and dressing more feminine.
Honestly, she could do some work herself if they're so broke that Miguel couldn't pay the credit card bills. Is the pregnant Julieta supposed to support this family all by herself while Miguel digs them out of the hole?
Julieta had words with Paula who was as smug as ever.
Rosa and Sophia needled Guadalupe that she can't work and watch the baby at the same time. Several times during the episode they commented on how much Simón looks like his father. Cliffhanger for Monday was Sophia spilling the paternity beans to Efrain's dad. May she rot in hell.
José walked in on Paula when she was taking a bath. After a childish game of José trying to force her out of the tub and Paula insisting she won't talk until he gives her a towel, she threatened him that she would tell Efrain that the baby is his if he tried to stand in her way. Of course she smirked as he went out the door. I am really weary of her games.
When Sophia told Paula that Juan marrying Julieta is virtually a guarantee because of the baby, Paula told her she was in love with Juan. Hell hasn't frozen over yet.
She went after Juan, saying he shouldn't marry Julieta out of any sense of obligation and attempting to imply that Julieta's baby may not be his. He looked like he wasn't going to fall for this, but Paula just kept coming after him, like Kathleen Turner in Body Heat. It looks like she's succeeding with Juan, who seems less eager than ever to marry Julieta, This is not good news.
Paula chewed out the guys over Rosario coming to work on the ranch, saying for the 1234567th time that she is the boss.
Consuelo got Miguel to support her relationship with Johnny and said so in front of Rosa, who is not pleased that Rosario is working side by side with Lucas. She gave her an absurd lecture about washing up and dressing more feminine.
Honestly, she could do some work herself if they're so broke that Miguel couldn't pay the credit card bills. Is the pregnant Julieta supposed to support this family all by herself while Miguel digs them out of the hole?
Julieta had words with Paula who was as smug as ever.
Rosa and Sophia needled Guadalupe that she can't work and watch the baby at the same time. Several times during the episode they commented on how much Simón looks like his father. Cliffhanger for Monday was Sophia spilling the paternity beans to Efrain's dad. May she rot in hell.
ALGUIEN -
Thanks, NovelaMaven for the summaries and questions. I have no clue how this show will end, I keep hoping somehow Rodrigo will save Piedad from Julian. My wife, who doesn't watch the show, but dutifully listens to my wild commentaries, thinks Piedad will save Rodrigo from Julian! I'm also worried for Valeria now, and also for Tatiana. As for Daniel, I was thinking, why would he put those hearts in a box? Well, if Julian tries to pin everything on Daniel, and says the farm belongs to him, and the police go to the farm, they'd find.....nothing! Then maybe the hearts could show up somewhere else (bad for Julian).
I'm also hoping Matilde does recover. C'mon, it's a novela, miracles CAN happen.
I really do hope Julian doesn't end up getting away with his crimes. It was be so nice if the ghost (or vision) of Eva can get some justice.
Thanks, NovelaMaven for the summaries and questions. I have no clue how this show will end, I keep hoping somehow Rodrigo will save Piedad from Julian. My wife, who doesn't watch the show, but dutifully listens to my wild commentaries, thinks Piedad will save Rodrigo from Julian! I'm also worried for Valeria now, and also for Tatiana. As for Daniel, I was thinking, why would he put those hearts in a box? Well, if Julian tries to pin everything on Daniel, and says the farm belongs to him, and the police go to the farm, they'd find.....nothing! Then maybe the hearts could show up somewhere else (bad for Julian).
I'm also hoping Matilde does recover. C'mon, it's a novela, miracles CAN happen.
I really do hope Julian doesn't end up getting away with his crimes. It was be so nice if the ghost (or vision) of Eva can get some justice.
GENERAL
Thanks so much, NovelaMaven for your great opening salvo! I LOVED the dog named Huguito! I was just reading an article in the new New Yorker about Aung San Suu Kyi and her treatment by the horrible Burmese military junta. And then I looked up this familiar quote:
Lord Acton, expressed this opinion in a letter to Bishop Mandell Creighton in 1887:
"Power tends to corrupt, and absolute power corrupts absolutely. Great men are almost always bad men."
So, while on the face of it Chávez has done a lot for the poorest in Venezuela, the quote seems apt.
It's also interesting that Pérez-Reverte wanted Kate del Castillo for the role. I think she'll be very good. And, although she's moved on to roles in the US, I could also see Salma Hayek as Teresa.
ALGUIEN TE MIRA
Your comment about this one, NM, perfectly mirrored my own thoughts. Ye Gods, will no one catch on to Julián. For a moment there it looked like Tatiana was close to suspecting, having heard Mathilde shriek Julián's name. But no. Rodrigo has figured it out, but he's surely going to be a voice crying in the wilderness, especially with that seemingly bottom-of-his-law-school-class Fiscal in charge of things.
I'm also worried about Valeria. Also, from the day before, Lola's creeping Lucy's bedroom late at night was interesting. Are they leading up to her trying to bump her off herself?
How is this going to end? I predict Julián dies, not that he ends up in prison. Of course, Rod and Piedad get together. But I'd like to see him tell her to jump in the lake. I now have my doubts about Tati and Benja. Lucy will be revealed not to be preggers, although I can't figure out why she wants PP to go along to the OB/GYN, unless she's got one on her payroll.
HEREDEROS
Not liking anyone on this, except for Lucas, Rosario and Efraín. Does this writer truly hate women? I can't remember seeing that many scheming witches in one place. At times Sofía hasn't seemed that bad, actually giving decent advice to Paula. But last night, telling Modesto the child was not his biological grandchild and that nasty scene at the dinner table. I now despise her. I'm a bit ashamed to admit I loved José grabbing her that way in her bedroom. She seems to feel being a female gives her the right to hurt others without consequences.
And that nasty little brat Consuelo is intolerable. I certainly hope her Johnny catches on soon and dumps her like a hot potato. And Paula goes on being rotten as well. Juan looked at her last night like he was figuring out she wasn't worthy of polishing Julieta's shoes. But, of course, lust will win out, I'm sure. The one thing that's as sure as death and taxes is that when two people look at each other with those riveted expressions when they first meet, they'll be together at the end.
The one thing I'm curious about is the back story about Eleuterio's wife. I don't think she's dead. And I think his behavior is simply awful. He manipulates his child and seems to want to keep her as his lifelong companion, denying her an adult relationship with a man.
In short, I'm fed up with this one.
Thanks so much, NovelaMaven for your great opening salvo! I LOVED the dog named Huguito! I was just reading an article in the new New Yorker about Aung San Suu Kyi and her treatment by the horrible Burmese military junta. And then I looked up this familiar quote:
Lord Acton, expressed this opinion in a letter to Bishop Mandell Creighton in 1887:
"Power tends to corrupt, and absolute power corrupts absolutely. Great men are almost always bad men."
So, while on the face of it Chávez has done a lot for the poorest in Venezuela, the quote seems apt.
It's also interesting that Pérez-Reverte wanted Kate del Castillo for the role. I think she'll be very good. And, although she's moved on to roles in the US, I could also see Salma Hayek as Teresa.
ALGUIEN TE MIRA
Your comment about this one, NM, perfectly mirrored my own thoughts. Ye Gods, will no one catch on to Julián. For a moment there it looked like Tatiana was close to suspecting, having heard Mathilde shriek Julián's name. But no. Rodrigo has figured it out, but he's surely going to be a voice crying in the wilderness, especially with that seemingly bottom-of-his-law-school-class Fiscal in charge of things.
I'm also worried about Valeria. Also, from the day before, Lola's creeping Lucy's bedroom late at night was interesting. Are they leading up to her trying to bump her off herself?
How is this going to end? I predict Julián dies, not that he ends up in prison. Of course, Rod and Piedad get together. But I'd like to see him tell her to jump in the lake. I now have my doubts about Tati and Benja. Lucy will be revealed not to be preggers, although I can't figure out why she wants PP to go along to the OB/GYN, unless she's got one on her payroll.
HEREDEROS
Not liking anyone on this, except for Lucas, Rosario and Efraín. Does this writer truly hate women? I can't remember seeing that many scheming witches in one place. At times Sofía hasn't seemed that bad, actually giving decent advice to Paula. But last night, telling Modesto the child was not his biological grandchild and that nasty scene at the dinner table. I now despise her. I'm a bit ashamed to admit I loved José grabbing her that way in her bedroom. She seems to feel being a female gives her the right to hurt others without consequences.
And that nasty little brat Consuelo is intolerable. I certainly hope her Johnny catches on soon and dumps her like a hot potato. And Paula goes on being rotten as well. Juan looked at her last night like he was figuring out she wasn't worthy of polishing Julieta's shoes. But, of course, lust will win out, I'm sure. The one thing that's as sure as death and taxes is that when two people look at each other with those riveted expressions when they first meet, they'll be together at the end.
The one thing I'm curious about is the back story about Eleuterio's wife. I don't think she's dead. And I think his behavior is simply awful. He manipulates his child and seems to want to keep her as his lifelong companion, denying her an adult relationship with a man.
In short, I'm fed up with this one.
Permalink posted by : Saturday, January 22, 2011 at 3:26:00 PM EST
: Saturday, January 22, 2011 at 3:26:00 PM EST
GENERAL - NOVELERA'S TECHNICAL PROBLEM
I hereby confess to posting comments on company time. Doubt my boss visits this site, so I'm safe. However, because of economic problems like many companies, we have ANCIENT computers.
What's happening is that I cannot access El Mundo de Telemundo using the link "Experimental" that currently shows up on the new novelas. It works fine on my home computer. I sent Jean and NovelaMaven some panic emails about this.
While Delicious still seems to work, I can use that other link at work: Discussions.
By the time I get home from my long commute, it's too late to post anything using the "Experimental" link.
As a favor, as long as Delicious seems to work, would it be OK to continue to tag both places?
I hereby confess to posting comments on company time. Doubt my boss visits this site, so I'm safe. However, because of economic problems like many companies, we have ANCIENT computers.
What's happening is that I cannot access El Mundo de Telemundo using the link "Experimental" that currently shows up on the new novelas. It works fine on my home computer. I sent Jean and NovelaMaven some panic emails about this.
While Delicious still seems to work, I can use that other link at work: Discussions.
By the time I get home from my long commute, it's too late to post anything using the "Experimental" link.
As a favor, as long as Delicious seems to work, would it be OK to continue to tag both places?
Permalink posted by : Saturday, January 22, 2011 at 4:50:00 PM EST
: Saturday, January 22, 2011 at 4:50:00 PM EST
GENERAL
Novelera -- Happy to do it. I'm sorry. I didn't realize it was still a problem for you.
I just went back and tagged my last two 'Triunfo del Amor' recaps on Delicious as well although there's no link on the CarayCaray main page. Is that useful to you?
Novelera -- Happy to do it. I'm sorry. I didn't realize it was still a problem for you.
I just went back and tagged my last two 'Triunfo del Amor' recaps on Delicious as well although there's no link on the CarayCaray main page. Is that useful to you?
For Susanlynn on Los Herederos:
5 adopted brothers inherit their father's hacienda. But it turns out their father has a blood daughter, Paula, by his mistress Sofia, and so she gets an equal share too. Sofia and Paula show up with a videotape from the father claiming paternity and specifying Paula be treated equally and a lawyer. Juan tries to buy them off - Sofia wants to take the money and leave, but Paula, being the only blood relative of her father, thinks she can take it all. She has a chip on her shoulder anyway - because it appears the father cared more about his adopted sons than her. Problem is, she needs the brothers around to run the ranch. In the meantime, she gets her jollies from pitting the brothers against each other, sowing discord and making other people's lives miserable.
And then she develops this (annoying to her) attraction to Juan which is returned and becomes more interested in seducing him and making him her own then her original goal. When he decides he has to marry his fiance after all (she's pregnant), even though he and Paula have dallied a bit, Paula turns into a raging virago. (Actually - she was a raging virago before, but she's actually managed to turn up the volume!!!!)
Will Paula really end up with Juan? She is billed as the protagonista, even though she acts like a villain - so I suppose so.
This novela is a remake. I think the original was called Los Hermanos del Monte or something like that.
When it comes down to it - this is a very unlikeable novela. Great scenery, beautiful setting, nice horses and definite male eye candy. But I don't know how many more of Paula's bitchy fits I can take. The Juan character seems half asleep most of the time (but looks great with his shirt off), and it's really slow and clichéd. I have it on but I don't pay much attention unless we are in a serious eye candy moment.
Audrey
5 adopted brothers inherit their father's hacienda. But it turns out their father has a blood daughter, Paula, by his mistress Sofia, and so she gets an equal share too. Sofia and Paula show up with a videotape from the father claiming paternity and specifying Paula be treated equally and a lawyer. Juan tries to buy them off - Sofia wants to take the money and leave, but Paula, being the only blood relative of her father, thinks she can take it all. She has a chip on her shoulder anyway - because it appears the father cared more about his adopted sons than her. Problem is, she needs the brothers around to run the ranch. In the meantime, she gets her jollies from pitting the brothers against each other, sowing discord and making other people's lives miserable.
And then she develops this (annoying to her) attraction to Juan which is returned and becomes more interested in seducing him and making him her own then her original goal. When he decides he has to marry his fiance after all (she's pregnant), even though he and Paula have dallied a bit, Paula turns into a raging virago. (Actually - she was a raging virago before, but she's actually managed to turn up the volume!!!!)
Will Paula really end up with Juan? She is billed as the protagonista, even though she acts like a villain - so I suppose so.
This novela is a remake. I think the original was called Los Hermanos del Monte or something like that.
When it comes down to it - this is a very unlikeable novela. Great scenery, beautiful setting, nice horses and definite male eye candy. But I don't know how many more of Paula's bitchy fits I can take. The Juan character seems half asleep most of the time (but looks great with his shirt off), and it's really slow and clichéd. I have it on but I don't pay much attention unless we are in a serious eye candy moment.
Audrey
Permalink posted by : Saturday, January 22, 2011 at 5:33:00 PM EST
: Saturday, January 22, 2011 at 5:33:00 PM EST
GENERAL - NOVELERA'S TECHNICAL ISSUE
Mil gracias, NovelaMaven!! Tagging on Delicious will be great when I go back to the salt mines on Tuesday (I'm on a four-day work schedule).
I can usually see Triunfo recaps because they appear daily, and are thus near the top of the site each day. And I don't need to click a link to see them. The Telemundo ones are the problem, since it's a whole week's worth of comments. Although I must say my interest in Triunfo is flagging, especially since I saw El Privilegio de Amar, which I thought was better.
Mil gracias, NovelaMaven!! Tagging on Delicious will be great when I go back to the salt mines on Tuesday (I'm on a four-day work schedule).
I can usually see Triunfo recaps because they appear daily, and are thus near the top of the site each day. And I don't need to click a link to see them. The Telemundo ones are the problem, since it's a whole week's worth of comments. Although I must say my interest in Triunfo is flagging, especially since I saw El Privilegio de Amar, which I thought was better.
Permalink posted by : Saturday, January 22, 2011 at 6:28:00 PM EST
: Saturday, January 22, 2011 at 6:28:00 PM EST
Alguien
NovelaMaven you're spot on in your assessment with this novela.
I really don't know why Loca Lucia is insisting that Pedro Pablo goes with her to her ob-gyn unless it's to get his sperm so she can finally be pregnant. I really don't believe for one minute she's pregnant, i also believe if Pedro Pablo doesn't hurry up and find a solution for this that Lola just might take matters into her own hands.
Angel needs to be fired when this is all over now Luisa and Amador are certain that Rodrigo isn't the killer but this idiot wants to keep insisting he is. I like that Luisa told him and the other guy last night they will be responsible for in other deaths if they don't listen to them.
Yeah i think Tatiana is on Julian's radar did you see how he was hovering over her to hear what she was saying to Lola about what Matilde told her on the phone before her accident.Valeria needs to be careful too in her quest to prove Rodrigo's innocence she's setting herself up for another target.
NovelaMaven you're spot on in your assessment with this novela.
I really don't know why Loca Lucia is insisting that Pedro Pablo goes with her to her ob-gyn unless it's to get his sperm so she can finally be pregnant. I really don't believe for one minute she's pregnant, i also believe if Pedro Pablo doesn't hurry up and find a solution for this that Lola just might take matters into her own hands.
Angel needs to be fired when this is all over now Luisa and Amador are certain that Rodrigo isn't the killer but this idiot wants to keep insisting he is. I like that Luisa told him and the other guy last night they will be responsible for in other deaths if they don't listen to them.
Yeah i think Tatiana is on Julian's radar did you see how he was hovering over her to hear what she was saying to Lola about what Matilde told her on the phone before her accident.Valeria needs to be careful too in her quest to prove Rodrigo's innocence she's setting herself up for another target.
Permalink posted by : Saturday, January 22, 2011 at 7:05:00 PM EST
: Saturday, January 22, 2011 at 7:05:00 PM EST
HEREDEROS
Audrey: I agree that Cimarro (Juan) doesn't seem to be convincing a lover as he should be, to either women. As for the cliché, it seems most tns are; some less so than others, and this for me is less. at least the lead female (even though I dislike her at the moment) is not your typical damsel in distress. and so far, no evil villain/s, so I'm not wishing anyone dead yet. remains to be seen.
Audrey: I agree that Cimarro (Juan) doesn't seem to be convincing a lover as he should be, to either women. As for the cliché, it seems most tns are; some less so than others, and this for me is less. at least the lead female (even though I dislike her at the moment) is not your typical damsel in distress. and so far, no evil villain/s, so I'm not wishing anyone dead yet. remains to be seen.
Permalink posted by : Saturday, January 22, 2011 at 7:19:00 PM EST
: Saturday, January 22, 2011 at 7:19:00 PM EST
Alguien
I'm still sticking with it was Julian who sent the other body parts to the police. My theory is his ego is like that he has taunted the police in the past with his actions. He's a good actor remember how he acted after he killed Eva and Daniela so i'm not buying how he reacted when the police ask him last night how he got to the hospital so quickly and them not letting him have access to Matilde.My reason on why he would send those body parts to the police to implicate his step father Daniel Vidal. If Daniel had sent it wouldn't he have sent the hearts and the head? The police only talked about the decomposed body parts of Mauricio.
Will Julian kill again yes i believe he will Valeria and Tatiana i'm guessing look like the two next targets but we could be surprised.
Rodrigo remembering it's about time someone was using their brain in this. But like it's been said they might not believe him but Luisa does ask him on Monday who he thinks the killer is so maybe we have some progress here.
Piedad she doesn't deserve to end up with Rodrigo have the baby but have joint custody. He doesn't need someone so wishy washy with her feelings in his life. I'm so done with her stupidity.
Julian i don't see how he survives after all he's done he has to die but it's how he will be killed and who will do it?
Finally i don't see a happy ending for the main characters,i don't see Tatiana being with Benja last night she said it's his fault what happen to her sister and their relationship. Benja i believe is realizing this.
Pedro Pablo and Lola don't see how she is going to continue with Loca Lucia under her roof going after her husband on purpose. She just might kill her being pushed to her limit with Lucia.
Piedad and Julian she'll find out that the man she has decided to marry is the serial killer. How will she find out i don't know she also realize what he has done to Rodrigo. Really i don't want her ending up with Rodrigo he deserves someone who supports him no matter what and doesn't go running to another man simply because he can stroke your ego and make you feel better for a moment.
Luisa will find out the truth that the guy she has suspected from the very beginning who killed her BF Eva is Julian.
Angel will have to resign for continuing to go forward with his charges against Rodrigo when both Luisa and Amador told him that the new evidence supports that Rodrigo isn't "El Cazador".
Valeria if she survives Julian will get her act clean but she won't end up with Rodrigo but will be a great friend for him.
Matilde wakes up but is paralyzed she have to deal with this as a reminder of keeping her silence about Julian.Emilio therapy upon learning his father was a serial killer who wouldn't need therapy for that?
Camila survives and grows up finally she tries to make peace with her sister. She gets a new job in another city or state and stays away from Benja.
I'm still sticking with it was Julian who sent the other body parts to the police. My theory is his ego is like that he has taunted the police in the past with his actions. He's a good actor remember how he acted after he killed Eva and Daniela so i'm not buying how he reacted when the police ask him last night how he got to the hospital so quickly and them not letting him have access to Matilde.My reason on why he would send those body parts to the police to implicate his step father Daniel Vidal. If Daniel had sent it wouldn't he have sent the hearts and the head? The police only talked about the decomposed body parts of Mauricio.
Will Julian kill again yes i believe he will Valeria and Tatiana i'm guessing look like the two next targets but we could be surprised.
Rodrigo remembering it's about time someone was using their brain in this. But like it's been said they might not believe him but Luisa does ask him on Monday who he thinks the killer is so maybe we have some progress here.
Piedad she doesn't deserve to end up with Rodrigo have the baby but have joint custody. He doesn't need someone so wishy washy with her feelings in his life. I'm so done with her stupidity.
Julian i don't see how he survives after all he's done he has to die but it's how he will be killed and who will do it?
Finally i don't see a happy ending for the main characters,i don't see Tatiana being with Benja last night she said it's his fault what happen to her sister and their relationship. Benja i believe is realizing this.
Pedro Pablo and Lola don't see how she is going to continue with Loca Lucia under her roof going after her husband on purpose. She just might kill her being pushed to her limit with Lucia.
Piedad and Julian she'll find out that the man she has decided to marry is the serial killer. How will she find out i don't know she also realize what he has done to Rodrigo. Really i don't want her ending up with Rodrigo he deserves someone who supports him no matter what and doesn't go running to another man simply because he can stroke your ego and make you feel better for a moment.
Luisa will find out the truth that the guy she has suspected from the very beginning who killed her BF Eva is Julian.
Angel will have to resign for continuing to go forward with his charges against Rodrigo when both Luisa and Amador told him that the new evidence supports that Rodrigo isn't "El Cazador".
Valeria if she survives Julian will get her act clean but she won't end up with Rodrigo but will be a great friend for him.
Matilde wakes up but is paralyzed she have to deal with this as a reminder of keeping her silence about Julian.Emilio therapy upon learning his father was a serial killer who wouldn't need therapy for that?
Camila survives and grows up finally she tries to make peace with her sister. She gets a new job in another city or state and stays away from Benja.
Permalink posted by : Saturday, January 22, 2011 at 7:26:00 PM EST
: Saturday, January 22, 2011 at 7:26:00 PM EST
@shallowgirl - you're right that the female lead being a right royal bitch right out of the gate is very anti-typical-novela. So in that way this is not cliched and quite a spin on the traditional novela. But her general bad and super annoying self is very cliched - for a villainess.
Julieta is the one in what would be the traditional female lead - under appreciated, stomped on by the female villain, victim of underhanded plots to ruin her life. But apparently she will not be the winner in the end.
Actually - I don't think many of us watchers want Julieta to "win" surly Juan. Some of us think Pedro is a better match - or really anyone who really loves her. So - if she realizes Juan is not worth it - then maybe she ends up being the winner.
There are so many episodes to suffer through before we begin to get resolution on this I'm sure!!!!
Oh well - mute the sound, watch the eye candy, occasionally read the captions if I want to catch up on what is actually happening.....
Audrey
Julieta is the one in what would be the traditional female lead - under appreciated, stomped on by the female villain, victim of underhanded plots to ruin her life. But apparently she will not be the winner in the end.
Actually - I don't think many of us watchers want Julieta to "win" surly Juan. Some of us think Pedro is a better match - or really anyone who really loves her. So - if she realizes Juan is not worth it - then maybe she ends up being the winner.
There are so many episodes to suffer through before we begin to get resolution on this I'm sure!!!!
Oh well - mute the sound, watch the eye candy, occasionally read the captions if I want to catch up on what is actually happening.....
Audrey
Permalink posted by : Saturday, January 22, 2011 at 8:38:00 PM EST
: Saturday, January 22, 2011 at 8:38:00 PM EST
ALGUIEN TE MIRA
I don't have much to add to what has already been posted.
I thought it was interesting that the police got the body parts, yet we saw Daniel Vidal packing the hearts (and supposedly Mauricio's head) preserved in jars. If the police had received the latter, there would have been no doubt for them that the Cazador was Mauricio's murderer. Up until now the district attorney (fiscal) has been able to argue that the murders might not be linked.
When will the package with hearts and head arrive?
I am looking forward to Rodrigo telling the police why he suspects Julian.
I am really looking forward to seeing Piedad find out that the man she keeps praising for his wonderful loving behavior is the deranged serial murderer.
I think this is supposed to wrap up next week - so 5 episodes to go as far as I know.
Audrey
I don't have much to add to what has already been posted.
I thought it was interesting that the police got the body parts, yet we saw Daniel Vidal packing the hearts (and supposedly Mauricio's head) preserved in jars. If the police had received the latter, there would have been no doubt for them that the Cazador was Mauricio's murderer. Up until now the district attorney (fiscal) has been able to argue that the murders might not be linked.
When will the package with hearts and head arrive?
I am looking forward to Rodrigo telling the police why he suspects Julian.
I am really looking forward to seeing Piedad find out that the man she keeps praising for his wonderful loving behavior is the deranged serial murderer.
I think this is supposed to wrap up next week - so 5 episodes to go as far as I know.
Audrey
Permalink posted by : Saturday, January 22, 2011 at 8:44:00 PM EST
: Saturday, January 22, 2011 at 8:44:00 PM EST
Audrey~~Thanks for that excellent summary. I think I'll keep surfing between Trifuno and Hererderos. I get a big kick out of the actors playing Julieta and Juan. They both seem to always have the same sleepy expression on their faces. Novelera~~~I can't access the new sidebar either.
Permalink posted by : Saturday, January 22, 2011 at 9:57:00 PM EST
: Saturday, January 22, 2011 at 9:57:00 PM EST
ALGUIEN TE MIRA
Ahhhh I don't have much to add either except I want to thank Novelamaven for her great recap. I agree with most of your comments.
Im just biting my nails waiting to see the developments of this show. I just know I want a good ending. I dislike Julian, but the truth is I am not so interested in seeing him "pay". I see him as a psychopath, devoid of feelings or any ability to feel remorse (as I understand it) so any kind of "lesson" for him would be futile. People like him need to be locked up, separated from society and that is all.
I do hope that we see the other characters learn their lessons in life but I don't know if we will see that. Rodrigo confronting issues instead of running away from them (he has progressed in that respect), Benjamin owning up to his bad actions, realizing how much he has hurt the women in his life, Tati, realizing she also made mistakes and I was really hoping she became a little more humble but I don't know if there is time for that. Piedad, ayyyyy could she ever change? She is they way she is! and she always blames someone else or the situation for her problems! What could she possibly learn from her experience with Julian? Only that she is a dunce! but that will only make her feel even more like a victim ugh!
Poor Matilde, she is essentially a good woman, only a little nervous. As I think more and more about these characters I feel sorrier for each of them. It seems they will remain as screwed as when the story started :( (except for Rodrigo and hopefully Valeria)
Anyway, here is hoping that this novela ends well :)
Ahhhh I don't have much to add either except I want to thank Novelamaven for her great recap. I agree with most of your comments.
Im just biting my nails waiting to see the developments of this show. I just know I want a good ending. I dislike Julian, but the truth is I am not so interested in seeing him "pay". I see him as a psychopath, devoid of feelings or any ability to feel remorse (as I understand it) so any kind of "lesson" for him would be futile. People like him need to be locked up, separated from society and that is all.
I do hope that we see the other characters learn their lessons in life but I don't know if we will see that. Rodrigo confronting issues instead of running away from them (he has progressed in that respect), Benjamin owning up to his bad actions, realizing how much he has hurt the women in his life, Tati, realizing she also made mistakes and I was really hoping she became a little more humble but I don't know if there is time for that. Piedad, ayyyyy could she ever change? She is they way she is! and she always blames someone else or the situation for her problems! What could she possibly learn from her experience with Julian? Only that she is a dunce! but that will only make her feel even more like a victim ugh!
Poor Matilde, she is essentially a good woman, only a little nervous. As I think more and more about these characters I feel sorrier for each of them. It seems they will remain as screwed as when the story started :( (except for Rodrigo and hopefully Valeria)
Anyway, here is hoping that this novela ends well :)
Permalink posted by : Saturday, January 22, 2011 at 10:14:00 PM EST
: Saturday, January 22, 2011 at 10:14:00 PM EST
Thanks Novelamaven for your summary and interesting question.
I agree that Julian will die --and in some bizarre way-- rather than go to jail. Maybe Hombre is right that Piedad will be involved and it will happen as she is protecting Rod. Maybe finally she will decide where her loyalty really lies. (But we mustn't forget that they've been close friends for many, many years and have a bond based on the fact that they were both motherless, etc. So although we're all annoyed with Piedad, we shouldn't forget her history with Julian which makes her blind to him).
I am now wavering about Benja and Tatiana. But the writers have really shown his coming to terms with the truth about himself. He really seems ripe for redemption. Maybe he will jeopardize his life protecting Tatiana, and prove to her that he really loves her and they will get back together. The last shot of Julian looking at Tatiana was chilling! Tatiana seems to be forgiving Camila --or at least she did show up at the hospital and was upset about C's attempted suicide. I think Camila will survive and grow up.
I can't help but dislike Valeria, who is always petulant and to me annoying. But I agree with everyone that she's the next mark for Julian...after Matilde, who is #1 on his hit list.
Interesting how Tatiana and Lola agreed that Julian is such a great person. It seems as though women are much more taken in by him than men.
Finally, all the stuff about who has sent what to the police is now confusing to me. At first I didn't think Julian sent Mauricio's remains, but now it looks like it is possible...although I still can't see why he would --except out of perversion.
I agree that Julian will die --and in some bizarre way-- rather than go to jail. Maybe Hombre is right that Piedad will be involved and it will happen as she is protecting Rod. Maybe finally she will decide where her loyalty really lies. (But we mustn't forget that they've been close friends for many, many years and have a bond based on the fact that they were both motherless, etc. So although we're all annoyed with Piedad, we shouldn't forget her history with Julian which makes her blind to him).
I am now wavering about Benja and Tatiana. But the writers have really shown his coming to terms with the truth about himself. He really seems ripe for redemption. Maybe he will jeopardize his life protecting Tatiana, and prove to her that he really loves her and they will get back together. The last shot of Julian looking at Tatiana was chilling! Tatiana seems to be forgiving Camila --or at least she did show up at the hospital and was upset about C's attempted suicide. I think Camila will survive and grow up.
I can't help but dislike Valeria, who is always petulant and to me annoying. But I agree with everyone that she's the next mark for Julian...after Matilde, who is #1 on his hit list.
Interesting how Tatiana and Lola agreed that Julian is such a great person. It seems as though women are much more taken in by him than men.
Finally, all the stuff about who has sent what to the police is now confusing to me. At first I didn't think Julian sent Mauricio's remains, but now it looks like it is possible...although I still can't see why he would --except out of perversion.
Permalink posted by : Saturday, January 22, 2011 at 10:17:00 PM EST
: Saturday, January 22, 2011 at 10:17:00 PM EST
ALGUIEN TE MIRA
Some other folks are saying their DVRs say 8 episodes left which would put the final episode on Feb 2nd.
Then La Reina del Sur starts on Feb 3rd?
I plan to get the novel for La Reina del Sur and try to read it in Spanish (gulp!). But it is such a highly acclaimed novel, I figure it's worth it.
Audrey
Some other folks are saying their DVRs say 8 episodes left which would put the final episode on Feb 2nd.
Then La Reina del Sur starts on Feb 3rd?
I plan to get the novel for La Reina del Sur and try to read it in Spanish (gulp!). But it is such a highly acclaimed novel, I figure it's worth it.
Audrey
Permalink posted by : Saturday, January 22, 2011 at 10:41:00 PM EST
: Saturday, January 22, 2011 at 10:41:00 PM EST
Alguien
I didn't know it was ending that quickly it does keep saying ultimas semanas after every episode maybe this week it will be saying Capituos Finales.if that's the case i think it's going to be hard to write a happy ending for most of these characters.
What i found interesting about Rodrigo coming to the conclusion that the killer is Julian is the writers didn't include the scene in his flashback of his conversation with Julian about the picture. I think the writers should have included this part here because when he had they conversation with Julian about the picture taken with him and Benja at the area where they buried heart.Julian let slip before he even knew about it Eva being abducted from there.Only the killer would know about that maybe the writers will include this part eventually so Rodrigo is firm and very sure in his belief.
I think Valeria is a loyal friend who is fierce and very supportive of those she cares about. I think she did make a very big mistake in telling Rodrigo about Piedad's new living arrangements. But she has a kind of love hero worship for Rodrigo and remember how close she was to Daniela she was ready to fight for her when she thought Rodrigo wasn't treating her right or misleading her. until Daniela cleared that up with her.
As for Julian he is perverse everything he has done is psychotic and beyond what a normal human being would do.
Audrey great point about the hearts and Mauricio head they would all tie in to "El Cazador being Mauricio's murder that's why i think Julian sent M are we Mauricio's remains. His ego is like that are we forgetting how he like that are we forgetting how he taunted the police when they put Matilde at the safeway house. Or how he went after Eva when she was blind temporarily going into her apartment and threatening her with a knife? She even had police guards protecting her and he got by them.Julian ego is that big he enjoys taunting the police as well as getting rid of his victims.
Another reason why i think it's Julian's we only saw the head of Mauricio in the jar remember Julian keeps the hearts of his victims. So with Mauricio his first murder that wasn't a woman he kept his head.He usually dumps and gets rids of the remains of his victims but this time i think he buried or put Mauricio remains in area where they wouldn't be found. But he dug them back up or got them from where he had hidden them to implicate Daniel Vidal.
I didn't know it was ending that quickly it does keep saying ultimas semanas after every episode maybe this week it will be saying Capituos Finales.if that's the case i think it's going to be hard to write a happy ending for most of these characters.
What i found interesting about Rodrigo coming to the conclusion that the killer is Julian is the writers didn't include the scene in his flashback of his conversation with Julian about the picture. I think the writers should have included this part here because when he had they conversation with Julian about the picture taken with him and Benja at the area where they buried heart.Julian let slip before he even knew about it Eva being abducted from there.Only the killer would know about that maybe the writers will include this part eventually so Rodrigo is firm and very sure in his belief.
I think Valeria is a loyal friend who is fierce and very supportive of those she cares about. I think she did make a very big mistake in telling Rodrigo about Piedad's new living arrangements. But she has a kind of love hero worship for Rodrigo and remember how close she was to Daniela she was ready to fight for her when she thought Rodrigo wasn't treating her right or misleading her. until Daniela cleared that up with her.
As for Julian he is perverse everything he has done is psychotic and beyond what a normal human being would do.
Audrey great point about the hearts and Mauricio head they would all tie in to "El Cazador being Mauricio's murder that's why i think Julian sent M are we Mauricio's remains. His ego is like that are we forgetting how he like that are we forgetting how he taunted the police when they put Matilde at the safeway house. Or how he went after Eva when she was blind temporarily going into her apartment and threatening her with a knife? She even had police guards protecting her and he got by them.Julian ego is that big he enjoys taunting the police as well as getting rid of his victims.
Another reason why i think it's Julian's we only saw the head of Mauricio in the jar remember Julian keeps the hearts of his victims. So with Mauricio his first murder that wasn't a woman he kept his head.He usually dumps and gets rids of the remains of his victims but this time i think he buried or put Mauricio remains in area where they wouldn't be found. But he dug them back up or got them from where he had hidden them to implicate Daniel Vidal.
Permalink posted by : Saturday, January 22, 2011 at 11:39:00 PM EST
: Saturday, January 22, 2011 at 11:39:00 PM EST
HEREDEROS
Let's not forget that Leticia Calderon got top billing in ENDA, so Marlene Favela could actually be a first-time villainess in this one. It looks like she's enjoying herself being an uberbitch.
I'd rather see Pedro stop drinking. He was described as a womanizer and I don't see this at all.
Let's not forget that Leticia Calderon got top billing in ENDA, so Marlene Favela could actually be a first-time villainess in this one. It looks like she's enjoying herself being an uberbitch.
I'd rather see Pedro stop drinking. He was described as a womanizer and I don't see this at all.
ALGUIEN -
I also agree that Julian sent Mauricio's body parts to the police. I was just saying that maybe Daniel is going to take the hearts and head and plant them in Julian's apartment (after the cops search the farmhouse).
We're debating if Benja and Tatiana will get back together, but of course if Tatiana is another victim, I guess not. I agree with NJ Sue that maybe Benja will try to save Tatiana, just as I think Rodrigo will try to save Piedad (or vice versa).
I still think this novela is going to last at least 3 or 4 more weeks, since they haven't said ultimos capitulos, and they haven't announced the gran estreno of La Reina del Sur. But we shall see.
I also agree that Julian sent Mauricio's body parts to the police. I was just saying that maybe Daniel is going to take the hearts and head and plant them in Julian's apartment (after the cops search the farmhouse).
We're debating if Benja and Tatiana will get back together, but of course if Tatiana is another victim, I guess not. I agree with NJ Sue that maybe Benja will try to save Tatiana, just as I think Rodrigo will try to save Piedad (or vice versa).
I still think this novela is going to last at least 3 or 4 more weeks, since they haven't said ultimos capitulos, and they haven't announced the gran estreno of La Reina del Sur. But we shall see.
Alguien
I don't know Hombre i think it's going to be very hard for them to try to stretch this out for another 3 to 4 weeks but we'll see.They do have a lot of stories to clear up but i just don't want this to get draggy like some other novelas.
I think Daniel is sending the hearts and Mauricio's head to Piedad now if she is still at Julian's apartment so much the better for him. I think this is his way of paying back Julian because he knows the cops are looking for him from the waiter who showed him the picture. It wasn't hard for him to guess that Julian is setting him up as "El Cazador". He already set him up as the killer of his mother.
Daniel knows that Julian's weakness is Piedad so i think he wants to show her, even if she doesn't believe him at first to put that suspicion of doubt in her mind about Julian.
Urban i'm quite fond of ENDA when it began Victoria Ruffo got top billing as the lead star which most of us didn't agree with. After her character was killed off Leticia Calderon got the top billing as she rightly deserved.
I don't know Hombre i think it's going to be very hard for them to try to stretch this out for another 3 to 4 weeks but we'll see.They do have a lot of stories to clear up but i just don't want this to get draggy like some other novelas.
I think Daniel is sending the hearts and Mauricio's head to Piedad now if she is still at Julian's apartment so much the better for him. I think this is his way of paying back Julian because he knows the cops are looking for him from the waiter who showed him the picture. It wasn't hard for him to guess that Julian is setting him up as "El Cazador". He already set him up as the killer of his mother.
Daniel knows that Julian's weakness is Piedad so i think he wants to show her, even if she doesn't believe him at first to put that suspicion of doubt in her mind about Julian.
Urban i'm quite fond of ENDA when it began Victoria Ruffo got top billing as the lead star which most of us didn't agree with. After her character was killed off Leticia Calderon got the top billing as she rightly deserved.
Permalink posted by : Sunday, January 23, 2011 at 2:42:00 PM EST
: Sunday, January 23, 2011 at 2:42:00 PM EST
LA REINA DEL SUR
OK, I'm about half finished with the novel. Gotta confess I'm reading it in English, although I ordered the Spanish version, used, from Amazon. I tried it in Spanish from the library, and thought it was going to take too long to finish; i.e. not be able to finish before the estreno of the TN. I read Spanish more slowly than English.
It's a terrific book, and I hope Telemundo does as well with this novel as they did with Doña Bárbara. Doña Bárbara, the telenovela, was very different from the book, adding many characters that were not in the novel. But they managed to keep the spirit of the novel - the triangle between DB, her daughter Marisela, and Santos Luzardo - intact. I have high hopes for La Reina del Sur.
OK, I'm about half finished with the novel. Gotta confess I'm reading it in English, although I ordered the Spanish version, used, from Amazon. I tried it in Spanish from the library, and thought it was going to take too long to finish; i.e. not be able to finish before the estreno of the TN. I read Spanish more slowly than English.
It's a terrific book, and I hope Telemundo does as well with this novel as they did with Doña Bárbara. Doña Bárbara, the telenovela, was very different from the book, adding many characters that were not in the novel. But they managed to keep the spirit of the novel - the triangle between DB, her daughter Marisela, and Santos Luzardo - intact. I have high hopes for La Reina del Sur.
Permalink posted by : Sunday, January 23, 2011 at 6:35:00 PM EST
: Sunday, January 23, 2011 at 6:35:00 PM EST
ALGUIEN TE MIRA
I think they've already been saying ultimas semanas for 2 weeks, so IMO we have another 2 weeks max. Things are really coming to a head and we're running out of victims! I suspect they start saying capitulos finales starting tonight.
Ewww! Daniel sending the jars to Piedads! What a freaky idea! (of course all of this is totally freaky)
Does anyone know how the President's State of the Union address (25th of Jan 2011) affects the telenovelas? Do they get delayed? Or is that night skipped?
Audrey
I think they've already been saying ultimas semanas for 2 weeks, so IMO we have another 2 weeks max. Things are really coming to a head and we're running out of victims! I suspect they start saying capitulos finales starting tonight.
Ewww! Daniel sending the jars to Piedads! What a freaky idea! (of course all of this is totally freaky)
Does anyone know how the President's State of the Union address (25th of Jan 2011) affects the telenovelas? Do they get delayed? Or is that night skipped?
Audrey
Permalink posted by : Monday, January 24, 2011 at 10:44:00 AM EST
: Monday, January 24, 2011 at 10:44:00 AM EST
GENERAL
Audrey, I think as to the State of the Union address, it's usually from about 8-9. Univision carries it, and their 8 o'clock Eastern show is not on that day. I think Telemundo keeps showing it's regular programs. But we'll find out!
Audrey, I think as to the State of the Union address, it's usually from about 8-9. Univision carries it, and their 8 o'clock Eastern show is not on that day. I think Telemundo keeps showing it's regular programs. But we'll find out!
ALGUIEN
I noticed that wikipedia took off their end date and now has dates up until february 3rd, previously they stated the show would end on
3lst, so I guess we have two more weeks. I'm exhausted, am ready for this novela to be resolved. Have hated the way Piedad seems to have disolved in character. Tatiana stating the Julian was a good man, I nearly fell off my chair.
HEREDEROS
Juan looks like he's bored, he always has a blank stare in his eyes. It's like he's saying let me read my next line so I can get out of here. Paula is a one note character they forgot that in Dona Barbara we had a sense of what happened to her and we somewhat cared for her. Paula and her mother give me the creeps, I feel like I have to take a shower after their scenes. But give me the men eye candy, and I am happy. Would like Julieta to get it all. But one thing I don't understand and I can't remember, the father's video, did he ever mention Paula by name?
I noticed that wikipedia took off their end date and now has dates up until february 3rd, previously they stated the show would end on
3lst, so I guess we have two more weeks. I'm exhausted, am ready for this novela to be resolved. Have hated the way Piedad seems to have disolved in character. Tatiana stating the Julian was a good man, I nearly fell off my chair.
HEREDEROS
Juan looks like he's bored, he always has a blank stare in his eyes. It's like he's saying let me read my next line so I can get out of here. Paula is a one note character they forgot that in Dona Barbara we had a sense of what happened to her and we somewhat cared for her. Paula and her mother give me the creeps, I feel like I have to take a shower after their scenes. But give me the men eye candy, and I am happy. Would like Julieta to get it all. But one thing I don't understand and I can't remember, the father's video, did he ever mention Paula by name?
Permalink posted by : Monday, January 24, 2011 at 11:56:00 AM EST
: Monday, January 24, 2011 at 11:56:00 AM EST
Alguien
Unless it's a crucial State of The Union commentary say like 9/11 then Telemundo maintains it's regular broadcasting schedule. They then show the State of the Union by the President after 11:00 pm. Univision like Hombre said shows it like on the regular American channels.
I'm kind of laughing because were now guessing when this novela will end? I'll say this if it's longer than two weeks how many characters will be left alive?
Unless it's a crucial State of The Union commentary say like 9/11 then Telemundo maintains it's regular broadcasting schedule. They then show the State of the Union by the President after 11:00 pm. Univision like Hombre said shows it like on the regular American channels.
I'm kind of laughing because were now guessing when this novela will end? I'll say this if it's longer than two weeks how many characters will be left alive?
Permalink posted by : Monday, January 24, 2011 at 12:51:00 PM EST
: Monday, January 24, 2011 at 12:51:00 PM EST
HEREDEROS
Nellie: yes, Paula's name was mentioned in her bio father's video. I'm w/you... I prefer Julieta to end up w/Juan. I read that Mario Cimarro is being extremely difficult on set; that's possibly the reason he's not acting well.
Nellie: yes, Paula's name was mentioned in her bio father's video. I'm w/you... I prefer Julieta to end up w/Juan. I read that Mario Cimarro is being extremely difficult on set; that's possibly the reason he's not acting well.
Permalink posted by : Monday, January 24, 2011 at 2:24:00 PM EST
: Monday, January 24, 2011 at 2:24:00 PM EST
Shallowgal
Wow, cool, he looks so bored like he does not want to be there. Thanks for replying. I rarely get a chance to come back to this site two times in one day.
Wow, cool, he looks so bored like he does not want to be there. Thanks for replying. I rarely get a chance to come back to this site two times in one day.
Permalink posted by : Monday, January 24, 2011 at 3:22:00 PM EST
: Monday, January 24, 2011 at 3:22:00 PM EST
Herederos
Well that explains Mario's i don't care what i'm saying or how i'm supposed to act for this novela look.Maybe Telemundo should replace him if he's being that difficult.
Well that explains Mario's i don't care what i'm saying or how i'm supposed to act for this novela look.Maybe Telemundo should replace him if he's being that difficult.
Permalink posted by : Monday, January 24, 2011 at 6:41:00 PM EST
: Monday, January 24, 2011 at 6:41:00 PM EST
Alguien
Last night episode was kind of slow.
Valeria tries to convince Pedro Pablo that someone working at the clinic is "El Cazador". He tells her he doesn't believe her but lets her know what she told Rodrigo was very upsetting to him about Piedad and he escaped the rehab clinic just to see Piedad. Valeria realizes now how much Rodrigo loves Piedad.
Rodrigo is antsy and tries to escape again but is caught.
Tatiana talks to Lola about Camila suicide attempt and blames Benja for this also. As Lola ask her not to say that it's not her brother's fault for what happened with Camila. Tatiana looks in on Camila and sees Benja sleeping beside her holding her hand. Tatiana gets upset and angered by this and leaves unnoticed as Lola tries to calm her down good luck with that.
Rodrigo convinces the female attendant to let him make a phone call, he phones Piedad and warns her that she and their baby are in danger from Julian.
Piedad thinks he's saying because he is jealous she ask him to stop annoying her like this and accept their relationship. In the background Julian listens in.Piedad hangs up on Rod in a fit of exasperation.
Rodrigo goes back to his room bothered and unhappy.
Julian pretends he didn't hear anything comes into the room talking happily. As Piedad snaps at him he ask who called he heard the phone ring. Piedad tells him it was Rodrigo who is jealous and not to concern himself with what he has to say.
Luisa and Amador discuss having Mauricio's remains as they both think it's "El Cazador" who killed him. Luisa is planning to find evidence to prove this whether Angel likes it or not.
Last night episode was kind of slow.
Valeria tries to convince Pedro Pablo that someone working at the clinic is "El Cazador". He tells her he doesn't believe her but lets her know what she told Rodrigo was very upsetting to him about Piedad and he escaped the rehab clinic just to see Piedad. Valeria realizes now how much Rodrigo loves Piedad.
Rodrigo is antsy and tries to escape again but is caught.
Tatiana talks to Lola about Camila suicide attempt and blames Benja for this also. As Lola ask her not to say that it's not her brother's fault for what happened with Camila. Tatiana looks in on Camila and sees Benja sleeping beside her holding her hand. Tatiana gets upset and angered by this and leaves unnoticed as Lola tries to calm her down good luck with that.
Rodrigo convinces the female attendant to let him make a phone call, he phones Piedad and warns her that she and their baby are in danger from Julian.
Piedad thinks he's saying because he is jealous she ask him to stop annoying her like this and accept their relationship. In the background Julian listens in.Piedad hangs up on Rod in a fit of exasperation.
Rodrigo goes back to his room bothered and unhappy.
Julian pretends he didn't hear anything comes into the room talking happily. As Piedad snaps at him he ask who called he heard the phone ring. Piedad tells him it was Rodrigo who is jealous and not to concern himself with what he has to say.
Luisa and Amador discuss having Mauricio's remains as they both think it's "El Cazador" who killed him. Luisa is planning to find evidence to prove this whether Angel likes it or not.
Permalink posted by : Tuesday, January 25, 2011 at 12:07:00 AM EST
: Tuesday, January 25, 2011 at 12:07:00 AM EST
Alguien
The media ask the guy about Mauricio he tells them that they don't have any evidence to prove he was murder by "El Cazador". Valeria comes in as he leaves and is accosted by the media they ask about her relationship with Daniela she says yes they were the best of friends.
She knows with out a shadow of doubt that Rodrigo is definitely innocent and tells them that " El Cazador killed Mauricio and the police aren't doing anything but trying to pin the murders on Rodrigo.Luisa and Amador come in and take Valeria away from the media.
Luisa warns Valeria about hindering a police investigation, but she ask her for any info she has to help them. Luisa asks her if she ever saw Daniela's boyfriend. Valeria answer no all she knows is that he was a lawyer and his name was Daniel Vidal. Amador ask if he was young or old and Valeria tells them that Daniela said he was young. This makes Luisa and Amador look at each other with a light going on in their thoughts.
Loca Lucia confronts Pedro Pablo about her appointment with her Ob-Gyn he tries to blow her off but Lucia panics and says he must come with her.
Lola ask where Pedro Pablo is and is told he is out.
At the doctors office Pedro Pablo once again tries to leave Lucia by herself and we see a frighten and panicked look again on her face.
Rodrigo ask the guard to call Luisa but the guard at first doesn't want to help him. Rodrigo ask the guard if he has kids and the guard responds yes he does. Rodrigo plays upon his sympathy as a parent asking him wouldn't he do everything in his power to protect his children? The guard relents and tells Rodrigo he'll call Luisa for him.
The media ask the guy about Mauricio he tells them that they don't have any evidence to prove he was murder by "El Cazador". Valeria comes in as he leaves and is accosted by the media they ask about her relationship with Daniela she says yes they were the best of friends.
She knows with out a shadow of doubt that Rodrigo is definitely innocent and tells them that " El Cazador killed Mauricio and the police aren't doing anything but trying to pin the murders on Rodrigo.Luisa and Amador come in and take Valeria away from the media.
Luisa warns Valeria about hindering a police investigation, but she ask her for any info she has to help them. Luisa asks her if she ever saw Daniela's boyfriend. Valeria answer no all she knows is that he was a lawyer and his name was Daniel Vidal. Amador ask if he was young or old and Valeria tells them that Daniela said he was young. This makes Luisa and Amador look at each other with a light going on in their thoughts.
Loca Lucia confronts Pedro Pablo about her appointment with her Ob-Gyn he tries to blow her off but Lucia panics and says he must come with her.
Lola ask where Pedro Pablo is and is told he is out.
At the doctors office Pedro Pablo once again tries to leave Lucia by herself and we see a frighten and panicked look again on her face.
Rodrigo ask the guard to call Luisa but the guard at first doesn't want to help him. Rodrigo ask the guard if he has kids and the guard responds yes he does. Rodrigo plays upon his sympathy as a parent asking him wouldn't he do everything in his power to protect his children? The guard relents and tells Rodrigo he'll call Luisa for him.
Permalink posted by : Tuesday, January 25, 2011 at 12:19:00 AM EST
: Tuesday, January 25, 2011 at 12:19:00 AM EST
Alguien
Benja comes from the hospital with Lola and she tells him that Tatiana saw in Camila's hospital room holding her hand and she wasn't happy about it. Benja is upset and ask Lola why she didn't warn him, Lola lets him know he's out of line first of all he was sleeping right next to Camila and Tatiana was right next to her. Benja whines how much of mess everything is and how Tatiana is blaming him for this also she'll never forgive me now. Lola tries to keep his spirits up by saying maybe she'll forgive him. At this point i have to ask Lola what novela has she been in if she doesn't know how her sister-in-law is?
The Dr. shows Pedro Pablo the sonogram announcing it's a boy, as crazy Lucia beams and smiles crazily at him saying see i told you i was pregnant.
Luisa tells Amador that Rodrgo is asking to speak to her and Amador ask if she's going to go she says yes. She wants to hear what he has to say.
Pedro Pablo sits in a restaurant with Loca Lucia in shock as Lucia babbles about their expectant baby boy. She leaves as Pedro start to like the idea that he will have a son.
I'm still sticking with this heifer isn't pregnant until i see her pop out a baby. I think she paid that Dr. off to show Pedro a false sonogram. She look to scared and frighten when Pedro twice tried not to go and leave her at the office. I don't believe she's pregnant.
Lola ask Yoyita if Pedro has come home yet and is told he hasn't as Lola gets mad at this news.
Benja comes from the hospital with Lola and she tells him that Tatiana saw in Camila's hospital room holding her hand and she wasn't happy about it. Benja is upset and ask Lola why she didn't warn him, Lola lets him know he's out of line first of all he was sleeping right next to Camila and Tatiana was right next to her. Benja whines how much of mess everything is and how Tatiana is blaming him for this also she'll never forgive me now. Lola tries to keep his spirits up by saying maybe she'll forgive him. At this point i have to ask Lola what novela has she been in if she doesn't know how her sister-in-law is?
The Dr. shows Pedro Pablo the sonogram announcing it's a boy, as crazy Lucia beams and smiles crazily at him saying see i told you i was pregnant.
Luisa tells Amador that Rodrgo is asking to speak to her and Amador ask if she's going to go she says yes. She wants to hear what he has to say.
Pedro Pablo sits in a restaurant with Loca Lucia in shock as Lucia babbles about their expectant baby boy. She leaves as Pedro start to like the idea that he will have a son.
I'm still sticking with this heifer isn't pregnant until i see her pop out a baby. I think she paid that Dr. off to show Pedro a false sonogram. She look to scared and frighten when Pedro twice tried not to go and leave her at the office. I don't believe she's pregnant.
Lola ask Yoyita if Pedro has come home yet and is told he hasn't as Lola gets mad at this news.
Permalink posted by : Tuesday, January 25, 2011 at 12:29:00 AM EST
: Tuesday, January 25, 2011 at 12:29:00 AM EST
Alguien
Luisa visits Rodrigo she ask belligerent what he wants as he tries to be a nice host asking if she wants to sit. Luisa tells him to cut it out and get to what he wanted here for. Rodrigo tells her about Mauricio being killed by the killer and Matilde being her accident by the killer. In his conversation with Piedad she told him how she was at the hospital because of Matilde's accident. Rodrigo tells Luisa that Matilde had a picture of a woman in the dress the same black dress that Eva was wearing when they found her.Luisa perks up at this how do you know this she ask him? Rodrigo tells her that Matilde was here to see him. Luisa then ask Rodrigo who does he suspect is the killer, Julian Garcia says Rodrigo to her.
Lola sits at the breakfast table glaring at Pedro and Lucia as the kids get ready to go to school. Lola ask where he was as Lucia tells Lola he went with her to find out about his baby we're expecting a son. Lola sits there in anger and shock as Pedro looks sheepish and guilty.
Luisa tells Amador about her conversation with Rodrigo as another cop comes in and tells them about the victim from the gas station was killed with a knife and might be another victim of "El Cazador". Luisa asks where did Matilde make her phone call from and shows the cop a map he points to the place where the gas station attendant was killed.Luisa and Amador exchange glances again.
Rodrigo comes into the cafeteria whiny to the guard as he sits to eat Balaztar comes running in calling him. He turns the channel on the TV to the news showing Valeria defending Rodrigo and declaring him innocent.Rodrigo has a look of being impressed by someone still believing in him and his innocence.
Piedad and Benja are with Emilio as Benja leaves them alone for awhile. Piedad gives Emilio a present but he wants to talk to his mom.Benja comes in with Julian as he and Piedad stand on the side,Julian delivers the bad news to his son that his mother was in a terrible car accident.
It still says Ultimas Semanas so i don't know maybe Hombre you were right this might last another 3-4 weeks. I could be right also by the time the end gets here we might not have a lot of characters left alive. I went on the Telemundo site and doesn't say anytthing yet about when this ends and Reina De Sur starts. I hope we're being mislead about Matilde but it doesn't look for her in the next episode.
Luisa visits Rodrigo she ask belligerent what he wants as he tries to be a nice host asking if she wants to sit. Luisa tells him to cut it out and get to what he wanted here for. Rodrigo tells her about Mauricio being killed by the killer and Matilde being her accident by the killer. In his conversation with Piedad she told him how she was at the hospital because of Matilde's accident. Rodrigo tells Luisa that Matilde had a picture of a woman in the dress the same black dress that Eva was wearing when they found her.Luisa perks up at this how do you know this she ask him? Rodrigo tells her that Matilde was here to see him. Luisa then ask Rodrigo who does he suspect is the killer, Julian Garcia says Rodrigo to her.
Lola sits at the breakfast table glaring at Pedro and Lucia as the kids get ready to go to school. Lola ask where he was as Lucia tells Lola he went with her to find out about his baby we're expecting a son. Lola sits there in anger and shock as Pedro looks sheepish and guilty.
Luisa tells Amador about her conversation with Rodrigo as another cop comes in and tells them about the victim from the gas station was killed with a knife and might be another victim of "El Cazador". Luisa asks where did Matilde make her phone call from and shows the cop a map he points to the place where the gas station attendant was killed.Luisa and Amador exchange glances again.
Rodrigo comes into the cafeteria whiny to the guard as he sits to eat Balaztar comes running in calling him. He turns the channel on the TV to the news showing Valeria defending Rodrigo and declaring him innocent.Rodrigo has a look of being impressed by someone still believing in him and his innocence.
Piedad and Benja are with Emilio as Benja leaves them alone for awhile. Piedad gives Emilio a present but he wants to talk to his mom.Benja comes in with Julian as he and Piedad stand on the side,Julian delivers the bad news to his son that his mother was in a terrible car accident.
It still says Ultimas Semanas so i don't know maybe Hombre you were right this might last another 3-4 weeks. I could be right also by the time the end gets here we might not have a lot of characters left alive. I went on the Telemundo site and doesn't say anytthing yet about when this ends and Reina De Sur starts. I hope we're being mislead about Matilde but it doesn't look for her in the next episode.
Permalink posted by : Tuesday, January 25, 2011 at 12:46:00 AM EST
: Tuesday, January 25, 2011 at 12:46:00 AM EST
HEREDEROS -- Lunes 1/24/11
The most important thing that happened is the confrontation about Simon's paternity. Efain caught Jose and Beatriz kissing (I thought they were history) so his suspicions have been confirmed as to why she was no longer interested in their marriage. He hasn't done the math yet or is avoiding doing so so he hasn't yet figured out that Jose is Simon's father.
He's decided to leave and take the child with him, declaring Beatriz an unfit mother.
The domino effect of this is on the brothers as Juan and Jose duke it out to the consternation of their brothers and the amusement of Paula and Sofia. After the fight ended (mercifully quickly due to somebody's intervention) everyone went about his business until later.
Paula starting coming on to Juan, but he resisted this time.
Later Juan told his brothers that he was going to investigate a way out of this intolerable situation.
Paula had previously informed him that if he marries Julieta she's throwing them both out.
Comic Relief: Sofia and Rosa now jointly own the store and Rosa talked about how Rosario had surprised her and Miguel with a romantic dinner the night before. Sofia asked what happened afterward and Rosa told her "Nada." Furthermore that she is no longer interested in sex. Sofia looked rather self-satisfied behind her back.
It takes a lot of cold blood to do what Sofia is doing.
Later when Consuelo tried to bring Johnny to dine with the family Rosa was such a snob and a bitch that he not only departed, he broke up with Consuelo. Which is exactly what Rosa wanted. Miguel seems to be caving to Rosa on this.
Poor fool.
The most important thing that happened is the confrontation about Simon's paternity. Efain caught Jose and Beatriz kissing (I thought they were history) so his suspicions have been confirmed as to why she was no longer interested in their marriage. He hasn't done the math yet or is avoiding doing so so he hasn't yet figured out that Jose is Simon's father.
He's decided to leave and take the child with him, declaring Beatriz an unfit mother.
The domino effect of this is on the brothers as Juan and Jose duke it out to the consternation of their brothers and the amusement of Paula and Sofia. After the fight ended (mercifully quickly due to somebody's intervention) everyone went about his business until later.
Paula starting coming on to Juan, but he resisted this time.
Later Juan told his brothers that he was going to investigate a way out of this intolerable situation.
Paula had previously informed him that if he marries Julieta she's throwing them both out.
Comic Relief: Sofia and Rosa now jointly own the store and Rosa talked about how Rosario had surprised her and Miguel with a romantic dinner the night before. Sofia asked what happened afterward and Rosa told her "Nada." Furthermore that she is no longer interested in sex. Sofia looked rather self-satisfied behind her back.
It takes a lot of cold blood to do what Sofia is doing.
Later when Consuelo tried to bring Johnny to dine with the family Rosa was such a snob and a bitch that he not only departed, he broke up with Consuelo. Which is exactly what Rosa wanted. Miguel seems to be caving to Rosa on this.
Poor fool.
ALGUIEN - Monday
I sort of thought that with the sonogram, Lucy was actually pregnant, but I'm hoping that Blusamurai is right, and Lucy's faking it with the help of the doctor.
So many little things are adding up for the police. But so far, they could point to either Daniel Vidal or Julian. One good point is that Valeria said Daniela's novio was young, although that's not really strong evidence. Still, the fact that Julian or Daniel Vidal must be the killer has to be good for Rodrigo. Too bad Piedad not only thinks he's jealous, she's thinks he's starting to lose his mind. WE know that JULIAN is starting to lose his mind, but poor Piedad still has her blinders on.
I'm still hoping Matilde recovers (and of course, doesn't get killed by Julian).
I sort of thought that with the sonogram, Lucy was actually pregnant, but I'm hoping that Blusamurai is right, and Lucy's faking it with the help of the doctor.
So many little things are adding up for the police. But so far, they could point to either Daniel Vidal or Julian. One good point is that Valeria said Daniela's novio was young, although that's not really strong evidence. Still, the fact that Julian or Daniel Vidal must be the killer has to be good for Rodrigo. Too bad Piedad not only thinks he's jealous, she's thinks he's starting to lose his mind. WE know that JULIAN is starting to lose his mind, but poor Piedad still has her blinders on.
I'm still hoping Matilde recovers (and of course, doesn't get killed by Julian).
HEREDEROS - Monday
This show is so silly, I find myself rooting for the bad guys (sort of). Here are the people I like:
Paula, Sofia, Miguel, Johnny, Consuelo, Guadalupe, the horses.
Here are the people I don't like:
Pedro, Julieta, Rosa, Gaspar, Jose, Eleuterio, Efrain, Beatriz
Here are the people I'm neutral on:
Juan, Lucas, Rosario, Berta, Modesto
I know, it's a strange list. But it must have something to do with the show that I'm rooting FOR the "bad guys", because I usually hate them.
This show is so silly, I find myself rooting for the bad guys (sort of). Here are the people I like:
Paula, Sofia, Miguel, Johnny, Consuelo, Guadalupe, the horses.
Here are the people I don't like:
Pedro, Julieta, Rosa, Gaspar, Jose, Eleuterio, Efrain, Beatriz
Here are the people I'm neutral on:
Juan, Lucas, Rosario, Berta, Modesto
I know, it's a strange list. But it must have something to do with the show that I'm rooting FOR the "bad guys", because I usually hate them.
ALGUIEN
Thanks for the update Blu. I was shocked that a baby showed up on Lucy's sonogram!
One of the important take aways from tati seeing Banja holdinf Camila's hand at her bed side was that although it upset her, she said that Camila needed him more than she did. Lolo said it surprised her to hear Tati say that. So this was softening, NOT hardening and more hate on Tati's part. It's understandable that she couldn't stay in the same room and look at it, but is says a lot that she understood it. And Benja thought that because Tati didn't show up in Camila's room it meant that she no longer loves Camila. But Lola and the audience know that isn't true. Tati is on the road to letting go her anger and hate. I still don't think that means she will get back together with Benja though.
So glad that Rod told Luisa without hesitation what Julian is the killer. Now that seed is firmly planted in her brain, but the eveidence still mostly points to Daniel. They even said that the road where Matilde had the accident was close to the area where Daniel was spotted. I guess they haven't found that farm house registered to him yet. Maybe the house is in Julian's name and now that they may be looking at him as a suspect, it will be easier for them to find the house.
Thanks for the update Blu. I was shocked that a baby showed up on Lucy's sonogram!
One of the important take aways from tati seeing Banja holdinf Camila's hand at her bed side was that although it upset her, she said that Camila needed him more than she did. Lolo said it surprised her to hear Tati say that. So this was softening, NOT hardening and more hate on Tati's part. It's understandable that she couldn't stay in the same room and look at it, but is says a lot that she understood it. And Benja thought that because Tati didn't show up in Camila's room it meant that she no longer loves Camila. But Lola and the audience know that isn't true. Tati is on the road to letting go her anger and hate. I still don't think that means she will get back together with Benja though.
So glad that Rod told Luisa without hesitation what Julian is the killer. Now that seed is firmly planted in her brain, but the eveidence still mostly points to Daniel. They even said that the road where Matilde had the accident was close to the area where Daniel was spotted. I guess they haven't found that farm house registered to him yet. Maybe the house is in Julian's name and now that they may be looking at him as a suspect, it will be easier for them to find the house.
Alguien
Hombre i can't remember who bought it up before that Loca Lucia could have bought off a doctor to help her with her fake pregnancy. I do remember her reactions when Pedro Pablo wanted to her to take a paternity test to prove he's the father. She was very panicky then and then came up with the excuse they had to wait until the baby was born to take it. She's still drinking alcohol like it's nothing i remember how Pedro Pablo mentioned that too her when they had dinner one time and how much she was drinking.
Lola either is going to do something to her to get her out of the way if Pedro Pablo doesn't act quickly to find out for real whether she is really pregnant or pulling a scam just to get him for herself.
Hombre i can't remember who bought it up before that Loca Lucia could have bought off a doctor to help her with her fake pregnancy. I do remember her reactions when Pedro Pablo wanted to her to take a paternity test to prove he's the father. She was very panicky then and then came up with the excuse they had to wait until the baby was born to take it. She's still drinking alcohol like it's nothing i remember how Pedro Pablo mentioned that too her when they had dinner one time and how much she was drinking.
Lola either is going to do something to her to get her out of the way if Pedro Pablo doesn't act quickly to find out for real whether she is really pregnant or pulling a scam just to get him for herself.
Permalink posted by : Tuesday, January 25, 2011 at 2:40:00 PM EST
: Tuesday, January 25, 2011 at 2:40:00 PM EST
ALGUIEN
Count me as also surprised that there seemed to be a baby on Lucy's sonogram. I suppose the doctor could show a "recording" of someone else's sonogram. But they didn't give us any clues. Often when a sneaky thing is being pulled, they show the face of the perpetrator. That doctor looked very honest and sincere. I don't know how Lola controls herself. I would have slapped her silly when she crowed about her varoncito
Piedad doesn't deserve Rod. Julián was testing her when he asked who called. He heard her end of the conversation so he has a pretty good idea Rod is onto him. But instead of pretending he didn't hear, he comes up with hearing the phone ring to see if she'd fess up. This is good for her safety that she did trash Rod, although it drives me nuts.
Count me as also surprised that there seemed to be a baby on Lucy's sonogram. I suppose the doctor could show a "recording" of someone else's sonogram. But they didn't give us any clues. Often when a sneaky thing is being pulled, they show the face of the perpetrator. That doctor looked very honest and sincere. I don't know how Lola controls herself. I would have slapped her silly when she crowed about her varoncito
Piedad doesn't deserve Rod. Julián was testing her when he asked who called. He heard her end of the conversation so he has a pretty good idea Rod is onto him. But instead of pretending he didn't hear, he comes up with hearing the phone ring to see if she'd fess up. This is good for her safety that she did trash Rod, although it drives me nuts.
Permalink posted by : Tuesday, January 25, 2011 at 3:41:00 PM EST
: Tuesday, January 25, 2011 at 3:41:00 PM EST
HEREDEROS
Barely hanging onto this one. I don't like anyone very much. I kind of agree with your lists, Hombre, although I do like Julieta so far.
I think the fact that she slept with Pedro is forgiveable. It sounds like she and Juan had a big fight and broke up, and that it was rebound sex, something she later regretted.
I can't STAND Sofía. I hope Modesto doesn't decide to give in to her plan to plot with her.
Barely hanging onto this one. I don't like anyone very much. I kind of agree with your lists, Hombre, although I do like Julieta so far.
I think the fact that she slept with Pedro is forgiveable. It sounds like she and Juan had a big fight and broke up, and that it was rebound sex, something she later regretted.
I can't STAND Sofía. I hope Modesto doesn't decide to give in to her plan to plot with her.
Permalink posted by : Tuesday, January 25, 2011 at 3:45:00 PM EST
: Tuesday, January 25, 2011 at 3:45:00 PM EST
Thanks Novelera for identifying Consuelo as Victorino Manjarréz's fiancé who got murdered. She looked familiar but I couldn't place her.
I started reading La Reina del Sur in English and it is good. I will at least give the novela a try but if it is too violent, I'm bailing.
So far, Herederos is kind of boring but the eye candy is nice.
I started reading La Reina del Sur in English and it is good. I will at least give the novela a try but if it is too violent, I'm bailing.
So far, Herederos is kind of boring but the eye candy is nice.
HEREDEROS
What in the world is wrong with Mario Cimarro? He seems to be in a trance- I have not seen one legitimate emotion on his face since this novela began- maybe he lost his passion along with the 30 lbs he took off for the role. Eye candy is not enough for me- I think a little acting is not too much to ask of our novela stars.
What in the world is wrong with Mario Cimarro? He seems to be in a trance- I have not seen one legitimate emotion on his face since this novela began- maybe he lost his passion along with the 30 lbs he took off for the role. Eye candy is not enough for me- I think a little acting is not too much to ask of our novela stars.
have to agree Mario is in a trance, probably did not like the scripts. But I have to admit, am going through pains as Herederos was not on last night (or somehow I missed out), and I need my Mario. But I'm beggin' Mario snap out of it and please wake up! Maybe Telemundo should do a novela where all these hunks just show up for an hour take their shirts off and pose, probably better than any novela. LOL
Permalink posted by : Wednesday, January 26, 2011 at 8:30:00 AM EST
: Wednesday, January 26, 2011 at 8:30:00 AM EST
ALGUIEN - Tuesday
I had to stay up late since they started the show at 10:40 after the State of the Union, but I'm glad I did. Another chilling episode. First Tatiana and Lola are visiting the unconscious Matilde, and when they mention Mauricio, she goes into cardiac arrest. The doctors rush in and save her, say of course she couldn't hear you, but Tati's not so sure.
Later, Matilde wakes up when just Julián is in the room, and he promises to "take care" of her, including making sure he controls who visits and who doesn't, and he's gleeful, she's terrorized (although she only has her eyes to show it). Julián also snows everyone else into thinking he's Mr. Perfect.
But who's that sneaking through the hospital? None other than Daniel Vidal, in sunglasses and a hat, not saying a word, but making sure Julián sees him. And we also saw Daniel deliver his package to the local Post-It Center, although we don't know where it's going.
And we don't know where Camila is going, either. She woke up, and has "escaped" from the hospital.
Rodrigo doesn't want to involve Valeria, so won't tell her he suspects Julián. She sort of thinks it could be "Daniel Vidal", but she agrees to stop pressing. She also admitted her feelings for Rod, which unfortunately aren't returned as much. Given Piedad's recent behavior, I almost think Rod should forget about her and accept Valeria. But that's unlikely.
The police keep getting little clues, such as they'll interview the driver of the car which hit Matilde. Did he see another car?
BTW, I know fiscal is prosecutor. But do we have a word for Prefecto (and don't tell me it means prefect, because I don't know what that is either :)
I had to stay up late since they started the show at 10:40 after the State of the Union, but I'm glad I did. Another chilling episode. First Tatiana and Lola are visiting the unconscious Matilde, and when they mention Mauricio, she goes into cardiac arrest. The doctors rush in and save her, say of course she couldn't hear you, but Tati's not so sure.
Later, Matilde wakes up when just Julián is in the room, and he promises to "take care" of her, including making sure he controls who visits and who doesn't, and he's gleeful, she's terrorized (although she only has her eyes to show it). Julián also snows everyone else into thinking he's Mr. Perfect.
But who's that sneaking through the hospital? None other than Daniel Vidal, in sunglasses and a hat, not saying a word, but making sure Julián sees him. And we also saw Daniel deliver his package to the local Post-It Center, although we don't know where it's going.
And we don't know where Camila is going, either. She woke up, and has "escaped" from the hospital.
Rodrigo doesn't want to involve Valeria, so won't tell her he suspects Julián. She sort of thinks it could be "Daniel Vidal", but she agrees to stop pressing. She also admitted her feelings for Rod, which unfortunately aren't returned as much. Given Piedad's recent behavior, I almost think Rod should forget about her and accept Valeria. But that's unlikely.
The police keep getting little clues, such as they'll interview the driver of the car which hit Matilde. Did he see another car?
BTW, I know fiscal is prosecutor. But do we have a word for Prefecto (and don't tell me it means prefect, because I don't know what that is either :)
Alguien
What a frustrating episode last night what happened to the police making sure they were there when Matilde woke up. Or at the very least keeping people out of her room.
Julian is no longer Matilde's husband he shouldn't have a say on who comes and goes to visit her.
I know Rodrigo wasn't receptive to Valeria's declaration but i at least hope when he gets out he totally rejects Piedad.Valeria was guessing right Julian is the killer she did mention that Daniela said she saw him at the clinic. But Rodrigo is right in trying to warn her to stop investigating he guessed right that Julian is eliminating those who have found out the truth.
I just wish he would remember the pictured taken with him and Benja and mentioned that to Luisa.
Luisa is hot on the trail now she has confirmed that Matilde's accident was near where the gas station attendant was murdered. She believes that "El Cazador" is either Daniel Vidal or Julian.
Tatiana better be careful with her speculations with Julian hovering around her.
Pedro Pablo bought some paper work to get Rodrigo released but stubborn Angel is sticking with his charges so i think Pedro Pablo is going to get a judge to declare Rodrigo innocence of the charges against him. Pedro Pablo insist that because of Mauricio's murder who was investigating who the killer could be the media is now saying "El Cazador" is still out there. Angel looked very worried when Pedro Pablo left his office it seems like all his visions of cracking the case have gone up in smoke with the latest developments.
What a frustrating episode last night what happened to the police making sure they were there when Matilde woke up. Or at the very least keeping people out of her room.
Julian is no longer Matilde's husband he shouldn't have a say on who comes and goes to visit her.
I know Rodrigo wasn't receptive to Valeria's declaration but i at least hope when he gets out he totally rejects Piedad.Valeria was guessing right Julian is the killer she did mention that Daniela said she saw him at the clinic. But Rodrigo is right in trying to warn her to stop investigating he guessed right that Julian is eliminating those who have found out the truth.
I just wish he would remember the pictured taken with him and Benja and mentioned that to Luisa.
Luisa is hot on the trail now she has confirmed that Matilde's accident was near where the gas station attendant was murdered. She believes that "El Cazador" is either Daniel Vidal or Julian.
Tatiana better be careful with her speculations with Julian hovering around her.
Pedro Pablo bought some paper work to get Rodrigo released but stubborn Angel is sticking with his charges so i think Pedro Pablo is going to get a judge to declare Rodrigo innocence of the charges against him. Pedro Pablo insist that because of Mauricio's murder who was investigating who the killer could be the media is now saying "El Cazador" is still out there. Angel looked very worried when Pedro Pablo left his office it seems like all his visions of cracking the case have gone up in smoke with the latest developments.
Permalink posted by : Wednesday, January 26, 2011 at 1:19:00 PM EST
: Wednesday, January 26, 2011 at 1:19:00 PM EST
HEREDEROS
I too sorely missed not having the show on last night. at least this show (and others on T-mundo) does not have the crying and over-the-top melodrama that goes on too much on Univision novelas.
I too sorely missed not having the show on last night. at least this show (and others on T-mundo) does not have the crying and over-the-top melodrama that goes on too much on Univision novelas.
Permalink posted by : Wednesday, January 26, 2011 at 2:54:00 PM EST
: Wednesday, January 26, 2011 at 2:54:00 PM EST
ALGUIEN-Tuesday
Was it last night that Julian was looking at a photo of Matilde, Emilio and him, and crying? I think that in spite of everything he will do to save himself, he has remorse regarding Matilde --or at least what this development means for Emilio. Also, I wasn't sure, but we saw a shot of a child scrunched up crying in a corner. At first I thought it was Julian, but then it morphed into Emiliano.
Did anyone else perceive it that way?
I couldn't believe that when the psychiatrist talked to Camila, who was uncooperative and said she only wanted to leave this world, that she didn't do any follow-up. Why didn't she put Camila on a suicide watch? For Camila to be able to just leave the hospital the way she did seems unreal to me. She certainly had a fast recovery!!But somehow I dont think Camila will try to kill herself again.
I find Tatiana a really complex and interesting character. While she told Camila she would always love her because she was her sister, she could not forgive her and wanted nothing to do with her. On the one hand, she is really tough, but on the other hand she is caring (Matilde and her children)and vulnerable. I am really impressed with the way this actress plays all the shades of her character.
Dr.Gibson is a caring and good-looking young doctor. I am wondering whether Matilde will recover and wind up with him. In a less conventional telenovela, that would happen. With Alguien, Im not sure. But it would be nice, after all she's been through, that Matilde winds up alive, well, and with a caring partner.
Does anyone know when this will end? I'm going away on Feb. 8th and hope I dont miss the ending.
Was it last night that Julian was looking at a photo of Matilde, Emilio and him, and crying? I think that in spite of everything he will do to save himself, he has remorse regarding Matilde --or at least what this development means for Emilio. Also, I wasn't sure, but we saw a shot of a child scrunched up crying in a corner. At first I thought it was Julian, but then it morphed into Emiliano.
Did anyone else perceive it that way?
I couldn't believe that when the psychiatrist talked to Camila, who was uncooperative and said she only wanted to leave this world, that she didn't do any follow-up. Why didn't she put Camila on a suicide watch? For Camila to be able to just leave the hospital the way she did seems unreal to me. She certainly had a fast recovery!!But somehow I dont think Camila will try to kill herself again.
I find Tatiana a really complex and interesting character. While she told Camila she would always love her because she was her sister, she could not forgive her and wanted nothing to do with her. On the one hand, she is really tough, but on the other hand she is caring (Matilde and her children)and vulnerable. I am really impressed with the way this actress plays all the shades of her character.
Dr.Gibson is a caring and good-looking young doctor. I am wondering whether Matilde will recover and wind up with him. In a less conventional telenovela, that would happen. With Alguien, Im not sure. But it would be nice, after all she's been through, that Matilde winds up alive, well, and with a caring partner.
Does anyone know when this will end? I'm going away on Feb. 8th and hope I dont miss the ending.
Permalink posted by : Wednesday, January 26, 2011 at 2:56:00 PM EST
: Wednesday, January 26, 2011 at 2:56:00 PM EST
ALGUIEN -- Tuesday
Hombre, thanks for the excellent resumé of last night's show. "Chilling" is a good description.
NJ Sue, I also thought the image of the boy morphed from past to present, from Julián to Emilio. I had the disturbing thought (actually, it's occurred to me before) that Emilio's trauma is the crucible in which the next generation's Cazador is being forged. There has always been something a little off about Emilio... others have mentioned this here. I hope I'm wrong.
I'm also feeling a little cranky about all of the medically improbable things going on. As NJ Sue pointed out, a suicidal patient like Camila would have been monitored very closely; in fact she probably would have been transferred to a locked ward as soon as she was out of intensive care. It's pretty silly that she was just able to waltz out of the hospital.
And why didn't anyone notice that Matilde could blink and was clearly responsive to her surroundings? Why didn't they test her ability to communicate by blinking?
And while I'm being cranky, I found the Lucía ultrasound thing absurd. If she's in cahoots with the doctor, they should have given us some hints to that -- a fleeting look, a nod -- something. And if she's not, well, it makes no sense that a pregnancy advanced enough so that fetal sex can be seen on an ordinary ultrasound is physically undetectable. Put another way, the skinny naked belly of Luci is completely flat, even concave. If she were 18 weeks pregnant (give or take a couple of weeks), she would have a baby bump -- even if her pregnancy weren't detectable when she was dressed.
Hombre, thanks for the excellent resumé of last night's show. "Chilling" is a good description.
NJ Sue, I also thought the image of the boy morphed from past to present, from Julián to Emilio. I had the disturbing thought (actually, it's occurred to me before) that Emilio's trauma is the crucible in which the next generation's Cazador is being forged. There has always been something a little off about Emilio... others have mentioned this here. I hope I'm wrong.
I'm also feeling a little cranky about all of the medically improbable things going on. As NJ Sue pointed out, a suicidal patient like Camila would have been monitored very closely; in fact she probably would have been transferred to a locked ward as soon as she was out of intensive care. It's pretty silly that she was just able to waltz out of the hospital.
And why didn't anyone notice that Matilde could blink and was clearly responsive to her surroundings? Why didn't they test her ability to communicate by blinking?
And while I'm being cranky, I found the Lucía ultrasound thing absurd. If she's in cahoots with the doctor, they should have given us some hints to that -- a fleeting look, a nod -- something. And if she's not, well, it makes no sense that a pregnancy advanced enough so that fetal sex can be seen on an ordinary ultrasound is physically undetectable. Put another way, the skinny naked belly of Luci is completely flat, even concave. If she were 18 weeks pregnant (give or take a couple of weeks), she would have a baby bump -- even if her pregnancy weren't detectable when she was dressed.
Alguien
NovelaMaven thank you for putting into words what's annoying me with this novela the absurd a suicide patient can get up and walk so easily out of the hospital. While Piedad did point out that Matilde did look panicky Julian had a ready quick answer for that but the doctor should have done some follow up test as soon as they were alone.
Yes NovelaMaven i agree with you on the morphing of Emilio who i don't seem to have some type of affection for as a child. He's too bratty and maybe it's because he's Julian's son i see Julian in him when he's on the screen. Yes i can see him becoming the next generation's "El Cazador".
Another disturbing scene for me was the formed family unit that Emilio,Julian and Piedad looked like standing in Matilde's hospital room. Please tell me i wasn't the only saying shut up to Piedad when she was assuring her not to worry about Emilio that she would think of him like her own child since is becoming a mother herself. That is one sick and twisted family.
I can't wait to find out where Daniel Vidal sent his box of gruesome goodies too.
NovelaMaven thank you for putting into words what's annoying me with this novela the absurd a suicide patient can get up and walk so easily out of the hospital. While Piedad did point out that Matilde did look panicky Julian had a ready quick answer for that but the doctor should have done some follow up test as soon as they were alone.
Yes NovelaMaven i agree with you on the morphing of Emilio who i don't seem to have some type of affection for as a child. He's too bratty and maybe it's because he's Julian's son i see Julian in him when he's on the screen. Yes i can see him becoming the next generation's "El Cazador".
Another disturbing scene for me was the formed family unit that Emilio,Julian and Piedad looked like standing in Matilde's hospital room. Please tell me i wasn't the only saying shut up to Piedad when she was assuring her not to worry about Emilio that she would think of him like her own child since is becoming a mother herself. That is one sick and twisted family.
I can't wait to find out where Daniel Vidal sent his box of gruesome goodies too.
Permalink posted by : Wednesday, January 26, 2011 at 4:16:00 PM EST
: Wednesday, January 26, 2011 at 4:16:00 PM EST
ALGUIEN -
Blu, good point about that photo of Benja and Rod that everyone forgot about. They also forgot about following the doctors. A few months ago, the police were following them, I think. It sure would be helpful if they'd kept following Julian. I also wish they put a secret tape recorder in Matilde's room, which could capture Julian's threats. But the police seem more reactive than proactive, and they're always one (or more) steps too late.
Blu, good point about that photo of Benja and Rod that everyone forgot about. They also forgot about following the doctors. A few months ago, the police were following them, I think. It sure would be helpful if they'd kept following Julian. I also wish they put a secret tape recorder in Matilde's room, which could capture Julian's threats. But the police seem more reactive than proactive, and they're always one (or more) steps too late.
ALGUIEN-
Great comments everyone! Yes, the child did merge from Julian to Emilio. Creepy. Enilio has always rubbed me the wrong way. I mentioned this before. Julian has instilled some of his twisted views about women and their role in his son.
I also thought "Shut up Piedad!" as she stood there babbling to poor Matilde about how she would basically take her place, and how she understands because she's a mother. Sorry Piedad. You have not yet experienced motherhood. You have barely experienced pregnancy.
The actress playing Matilde was communicating so much with her eyes. She's very good. Yes, Piedad picked up on the fact that Matilde looked terrified, but Julian managed to wave off her observation. The doctors should have been paying more attention and the cops should be there. It burns me up that Piedad's ex husband and his girlfriend are allowed so much more time with her than her parents or best friends. Grrr...
Great comments everyone! Yes, the child did merge from Julian to Emilio. Creepy. Enilio has always rubbed me the wrong way. I mentioned this before. Julian has instilled some of his twisted views about women and their role in his son.
I also thought "Shut up Piedad!" as she stood there babbling to poor Matilde about how she would basically take her place, and how she understands because she's a mother. Sorry Piedad. You have not yet experienced motherhood. You have barely experienced pregnancy.
The actress playing Matilde was communicating so much with her eyes. She's very good. Yes, Piedad picked up on the fact that Matilde looked terrified, but Julian managed to wave off her observation. The doctors should have been paying more attention and the cops should be there. It burns me up that Piedad's ex husband and his girlfriend are allowed so much more time with her than her parents or best friends. Grrr...
ALGUIEN
Oh yes guys, my frustration level with the police is rising! and I actually didnt think this would be possible
I believe TM wants the audience to feel some compassion for Julian. (It is not working with me, I feel it forced) They have been suggesting for a while that Julian projects his mother into other women (Eva, Matilde, Piedad and the victims) It seems he projects different aspects of his mother or his relationship with her. In the same form, he projects himself into his son. To me he is a psychopath incapable of feeling real remorse or anything beyond "himself". It is all about him, his past own "pain" and the projections of himself. I don't buy the tears (they annoy me), but I get the impression that this is what Telemundo is communicating in this version (in the original Julian didn't cry. He was a more chilling, textbook psychopath, killing machine) I guess it is a matter of taste, but I found the original killer more scary but at the same time without forcing it or TM hammering in my head I got the message that he did harbor a deep pain inside and interestingly without him having to sob, I felt "sorry" for him. the miserable monster.
Let's see how and when they end this. Right now I am very curious about what role Daniel Vidal will play in all of this
Ditto on the SHUT UP PIEDAD sentiment
I also feel sorry for Tatiana. A complex character and a very good performance. I feel like forgiving her and I hope the writer does too. Although now I fear that she is going to implicate Rodrigo again, but telling Julian that Rodrigo escaped the same day that Matilde was assaulted. How did she find out and why oh why does she have to tell Julian? What is he going to do with this info? Dangggg
Oh yes guys, my frustration level with the police is rising! and I actually didnt think this would be possible
I believe TM wants the audience to feel some compassion for Julian. (It is not working with me, I feel it forced) They have been suggesting for a while that Julian projects his mother into other women (Eva, Matilde, Piedad and the victims) It seems he projects different aspects of his mother or his relationship with her. In the same form, he projects himself into his son. To me he is a psychopath incapable of feeling real remorse or anything beyond "himself". It is all about him, his past own "pain" and the projections of himself. I don't buy the tears (they annoy me), but I get the impression that this is what Telemundo is communicating in this version (in the original Julian didn't cry. He was a more chilling, textbook psychopath, killing machine) I guess it is a matter of taste, but I found the original killer more scary but at the same time without forcing it or TM hammering in my head I got the message that he did harbor a deep pain inside and interestingly without him having to sob, I felt "sorry" for him. the miserable monster.
Let's see how and when they end this. Right now I am very curious about what role Daniel Vidal will play in all of this
Ditto on the SHUT UP PIEDAD sentiment
I also feel sorry for Tatiana. A complex character and a very good performance. I feel like forgiving her and I hope the writer does too. Although now I fear that she is going to implicate Rodrigo again, but telling Julian that Rodrigo escaped the same day that Matilde was assaulted. How did she find out and why oh why does she have to tell Julian? What is he going to do with this info? Dangggg
Permalink posted by : Wednesday, January 26, 2011 at 9:52:00 PM EST
: Wednesday, January 26, 2011 at 9:52:00 PM EST
HEREDEROS- Efraín finally finds out the whole truth when Beatriz shames Jose into telling him about Simón's paternity. Efraín runs off with the baby with all the del Monte brothers and Paula in pursuit. (Juan lets Paula drive the pursuit car?!?!) She manages to stop Efraín's jeep without incident.
Julieta arrives too late and misses all the excitement. She is really pi**ed at Juan for not taking her along. "But you weren't there," he says reasonably. Julieta gives in to her inner bitchiness but she's no match for Paula and she just makes Juan angry.
Juan tells Paula that he is going to hire an architect to build a house for him and Julieta. Paula clearly doesn't like the idea but since she has told Juan that if he marries Julieta, they can't live in the house, she can't really complain.
Miguel works very hard to get out from under Consuelo's blackmail. When Rosa demands to know 'the truth' that Consuelo was threatening to tell, he pretends to have chest pains. Rosa is taken in. Rosario confronts Sofia who tells her that Consuelo misunderstood what she saw and denies having a relationship with Miguel. Meanwhile Miguel 'confesses' to Rosa that he was with Sofia and abandoned her at the scene of the car accident. Rosa thinks that it is hysterical that anyone could think that a classy broad like Sofia would be interested in Miguel.
This was first time I have seen Viagra mentioned in a novela. The doctor asks Miguel if he used 'the little blue pill.' He denies it, of course.
The episode closes with Jose and Efraín struggling for possession of a gun.
Concerning Mario Cimarro's preformance, I think he is supposed to be a super calm, controlled guy who doesn't express his emotions. Presumably will loosen up during the novela. He certainly isn't helped by the writers. He hardly gets any dialog in these emotional confrontations.
Julieta arrives too late and misses all the excitement. She is really pi**ed at Juan for not taking her along. "But you weren't there," he says reasonably. Julieta gives in to her inner bitchiness but she's no match for Paula and she just makes Juan angry.
Juan tells Paula that he is going to hire an architect to build a house for him and Julieta. Paula clearly doesn't like the idea but since she has told Juan that if he marries Julieta, they can't live in the house, she can't really complain.
Miguel works very hard to get out from under Consuelo's blackmail. When Rosa demands to know 'the truth' that Consuelo was threatening to tell, he pretends to have chest pains. Rosa is taken in. Rosario confronts Sofia who tells her that Consuelo misunderstood what she saw and denies having a relationship with Miguel. Meanwhile Miguel 'confesses' to Rosa that he was with Sofia and abandoned her at the scene of the car accident. Rosa thinks that it is hysterical that anyone could think that a classy broad like Sofia would be interested in Miguel.
This was first time I have seen Viagra mentioned in a novela. The doctor asks Miguel if he used 'the little blue pill.' He denies it, of course.
The episode closes with Jose and Efraín struggling for possession of a gun.
Concerning Mario Cimarro's preformance, I think he is supposed to be a super calm, controlled guy who doesn't express his emotions. Presumably will loosen up during the novela. He certainly isn't helped by the writers. He hardly gets any dialog in these emotional confrontations.
HEREDEROS -- Miercoles
The whole incident with Efrain taking the baby would not have happened if not for Paula and Sofia's manipulations. It will be interesting to see how this develops.
Unfortunately Sofia might win Modesto over because of this.
Miguel can't have his Viagra... Funny. What makes me think that Rosa doesn't give a tinker's curse over sex with him and her "outrage" at his dalliance with Sofia suits her as long as nobody knows (and Rosa has all of Miguel's money)?
The whole incident with Efrain taking the baby would not have happened if not for Paula and Sofia's manipulations. It will be interesting to see how this develops.
Unfortunately Sofia might win Modesto over because of this.
Miguel can't have his Viagra... Funny. What makes me think that Rosa doesn't give a tinker's curse over sex with him and her "outrage" at his dalliance with Sofia suits her as long as nobody knows (and Rosa has all of Miguel's money)?
HEREDEROS-
Urban Anthropologist, you just may be right about Rosa not caring if Miguel had an affair, as long as she had the money. I did really enjoy her hearty laughter at how ridiculous it would be for Miguel to have an affair. Yeah, right!
Urban Anthropologist, you just may be right about Rosa not caring if Miguel had an affair, as long as she had the money. I did really enjoy her hearty laughter at how ridiculous it would be for Miguel to have an affair. Yeah, right!
ALGUIEN -
Tatiana overheard Pedro Pablo and Benja talking about Rod being out the night of Matilde's accident. It was terrible of her to blab this Julian, and she'll also probably tell Angel. Of course she has no idea how wrong she is. I'm thinking Julian is royally po'ed at Piedad for helping Rod that night. And as we saw, the ghost of Eva asked Julian if Piedad might be his next victim. He had told Eva that Piedad was the love of his life. But Eva coolly pointed out that Julian's obsession can't be stopped, and he might have to physically "possess" the heart (of Piedad) which she never gave him willingly!!!!
Another intense moment was when Camila went into (I think) Tati's house, and beg little Isadora for forgiveness. I was moved, but Isadora wanted no part of her, saying she had robbed her Daddy from her Mommy, and caused her Dad to leave, and them to get divorced. However, her little brother doesn't know all this, and was happy to see Camila.
Lola cut up Lucy's clothes again. Not a great idea.
Tatiana overheard Pedro Pablo and Benja talking about Rod being out the night of Matilde's accident. It was terrible of her to blab this Julian, and she'll also probably tell Angel. Of course she has no idea how wrong she is. I'm thinking Julian is royally po'ed at Piedad for helping Rod that night. And as we saw, the ghost of Eva asked Julian if Piedad might be his next victim. He had told Eva that Piedad was the love of his life. But Eva coolly pointed out that Julian's obsession can't be stopped, and he might have to physically "possess" the heart (of Piedad) which she never gave him willingly!!!!
Another intense moment was when Camila went into (I think) Tati's house, and beg little Isadora for forgiveness. I was moved, but Isadora wanted no part of her, saying she had robbed her Daddy from her Mommy, and caused her Dad to leave, and them to get divorced. However, her little brother doesn't know all this, and was happy to see Camila.
Lola cut up Lucy's clothes again. Not a great idea.
ALGUIEN -
I know, last time Yoyita cut up the underwear, not Lola. But I guess Lola's coming around to where Yoyita was earlier. Pedro Pablo also had fun at the clinic with a little boy and a soccer ball, as Lucy looked on appreciatively, asking if he was practicing for his upcoming boy baby.
I know, last time Yoyita cut up the underwear, not Lola. But I guess Lola's coming around to where Yoyita was earlier. Pedro Pablo also had fun at the clinic with a little boy and a soccer ball, as Lucy looked on appreciatively, asking if he was practicing for his upcoming boy baby.
Herederdos
Well last night i got to see what everyone is talking about concerning Paula and i agree she doesn't deserve to end up with Juan at all.
Does anyone know the law on a child being born during marriage whether the father is his biological dad or not he still belongs to the father. So i don't know where this town is supposed to be but I do believe Efrain has a right to the child regardless whether he's the child biological father or not. Why should Beatriz be rewarded for her skank behavior.
Jose is no better i would laugh if it turns that Efrain is their father's real son.It did seem like his uncle when he found out why Efrain came to him and about Beatriz behavior he was definitely reminded of the same behavior that had happened in his past.
Well last night i got to see what everyone is talking about concerning Paula and i agree she doesn't deserve to end up with Juan at all.
Does anyone know the law on a child being born during marriage whether the father is his biological dad or not he still belongs to the father. So i don't know where this town is supposed to be but I do believe Efrain has a right to the child regardless whether he's the child biological father or not. Why should Beatriz be rewarded for her skank behavior.
Jose is no better i would laugh if it turns that Efrain is their father's real son.It did seem like his uncle when he found out why Efrain came to him and about Beatriz behavior he was definitely reminded of the same behavior that had happened in his past.
Permalink posted by : Thursday, January 27, 2011 at 1:10:00 PM EST
: Thursday, January 27, 2011 at 1:10:00 PM EST
Alguien
Vivi i was thinking of you when i was watching Camila call Tatiana's house and speak to Isadora she's a little Tatiana in the making isn't she?
Really Angel needs to stop sticking to that lie that Mauricio's murder is not by "El Cazador" him telling Tatiana that makes her still believe Rodrigo is the murderer.
Camila i don't care what shape she was in confronting her very young niece like that was not a good idea at all.
Luisa and Amador listen in onto one of the guys in the accident with Matilde telling the other cop he did remember seeing another car on the road at the time.
Daniel tells Julian at the hospital to hurry up and get his money ready, he's running out of time.
Tatiana picks the perfect time to show up at the office and overhear Pedro Pablo and Benja discuss Rodrigo escaping and seeing Piedad that night of Matilde's accident.
I get the feeling that Pedro Pablo, Lola and Loca Lucia triangle is coming to a head real soon.
Naturally Tatiana aka Nancy Drew without a clue gets it into her head it was Rodrigo who attacked Matilde that night. Hello he doesn't drive idiot. When she finds out about him seeing Piedad she wants to hear Piedad's side of the story.
Julian is taunted by Eva i loved that scene and yeah i think he might blow up with Piedad for not telling him about Rodrigo. Maybe this might make Piedad see that he's not the man she thinks he is.
I thought that was Piedad's office that Julian was in because as Tatiana came charging into it she was calling out Piedad's name and ask why Julian was there.
Benja doesn't succumb to what a female patient if offering him so very freely as a matter of fact he even goes so far to transfer the patient over to Piedad.
Love seeing the look of envy on Piedad's face when she saw Valeria's face plastered on the front page of the paper. Speak of the devil she shows up at the clinic, facing off with Piedad.
It seems Valeria tells Piedad since she doesn't want or appreciate Rodrigo she'll take him off of her hands. Julian confronts Piedad about Rodrigo escaping that night. Rodrigo tells Pedro Pablo his suspicions.
By the time this novela ends every single character will know from Rodrigo he suspects Julian is the killer but they will all still want to blame Rodrigo because it couldn't be Julian he's such a sweet and noble guy.
Vivi i was thinking of you when i was watching Camila call Tatiana's house and speak to Isadora she's a little Tatiana in the making isn't she?
Really Angel needs to stop sticking to that lie that Mauricio's murder is not by "El Cazador" him telling Tatiana that makes her still believe Rodrigo is the murderer.
Camila i don't care what shape she was in confronting her very young niece like that was not a good idea at all.
Luisa and Amador listen in onto one of the guys in the accident with Matilde telling the other cop he did remember seeing another car on the road at the time.
Daniel tells Julian at the hospital to hurry up and get his money ready, he's running out of time.
Tatiana picks the perfect time to show up at the office and overhear Pedro Pablo and Benja discuss Rodrigo escaping and seeing Piedad that night of Matilde's accident.
I get the feeling that Pedro Pablo, Lola and Loca Lucia triangle is coming to a head real soon.
Naturally Tatiana aka Nancy Drew without a clue gets it into her head it was Rodrigo who attacked Matilde that night. Hello he doesn't drive idiot. When she finds out about him seeing Piedad she wants to hear Piedad's side of the story.
Julian is taunted by Eva i loved that scene and yeah i think he might blow up with Piedad for not telling him about Rodrigo. Maybe this might make Piedad see that he's not the man she thinks he is.
I thought that was Piedad's office that Julian was in because as Tatiana came charging into it she was calling out Piedad's name and ask why Julian was there.
Benja doesn't succumb to what a female patient if offering him so very freely as a matter of fact he even goes so far to transfer the patient over to Piedad.
Love seeing the look of envy on Piedad's face when she saw Valeria's face plastered on the front page of the paper. Speak of the devil she shows up at the clinic, facing off with Piedad.
It seems Valeria tells Piedad since she doesn't want or appreciate Rodrigo she'll take him off of her hands. Julian confronts Piedad about Rodrigo escaping that night. Rodrigo tells Pedro Pablo his suspicions.
By the time this novela ends every single character will know from Rodrigo he suspects Julian is the killer but they will all still want to blame Rodrigo because it couldn't be Julian he's such a sweet and noble guy.
Permalink posted by : Thursday, January 27, 2011 at 1:27:00 PM EST
: Thursday, January 27, 2011 at 1:27:00 PM EST
ALGUIEN - Tues & Wed
I finally got caught up. My DVR didn't catch the delayed Tuesday broadcast, so I saw it online and then watched Wednesday as well.
I sure hope Julián's plan to keep Mathilde from indicating his guilt in any way by threatening that Emilio won't have any functioning parent doesn't work. The blinking idea sounds good, but how would it work? They'd have to ask her if he was guilty and do the "blink once if yes and twice if no". No one of Mathilde's friends and family would even THINK to accuse him.
I wasn't bothered by Piedad telling Mathilde she'd be a mother to Emilio. Other things about Piedad bother me, but not that. Assuming Mathilde believes she's never going to get out of a hospital bed again, any mother would want her child to have a loving stepmother to take her place, at least that's the way I'd feel.
Yes, our beanies all need relining with an extra coat of tinfoil to accept Lucy's flat stomach and the ultrasound of a child big enough to detect the sex.
I had high hopes that the man who was in the crash with Mathilde would remember the car that pursued her and then pulled up ahead to see if she lived or died. Apparently not.
Tatiana is definitely a complex and interesting character. I guess it's just her perfectionistic personality that makes her so against Rodrigo. She believes that because he abused drugs in the past, he's capable of anything. And she stubbornly clings to this.
Just when I was liking her a bit in the scene with Camila, she upsets the applecart by giving Julián the opportunity to blame what happened to Mathilde on Rodrigo.
I'm kind of looking forward to Lucy and Lola going at it hammer and tongs when the cut up undies are discovered. I wish PP would display a little backbone and stop letting her embarrass him at work and con him into undie buying sprees.
I agree, Blu, I enjoyed seeing Piedad's face when she saw the newspaper article and when Valeria told her that it was the least a woman who loved a man could do.
I finally got caught up. My DVR didn't catch the delayed Tuesday broadcast, so I saw it online and then watched Wednesday as well.
I sure hope Julián's plan to keep Mathilde from indicating his guilt in any way by threatening that Emilio won't have any functioning parent doesn't work. The blinking idea sounds good, but how would it work? They'd have to ask her if he was guilty and do the "blink once if yes and twice if no". No one of Mathilde's friends and family would even THINK to accuse him.
I wasn't bothered by Piedad telling Mathilde she'd be a mother to Emilio. Other things about Piedad bother me, but not that. Assuming Mathilde believes she's never going to get out of a hospital bed again, any mother would want her child to have a loving stepmother to take her place, at least that's the way I'd feel.
Yes, our beanies all need relining with an extra coat of tinfoil to accept Lucy's flat stomach and the ultrasound of a child big enough to detect the sex.
I had high hopes that the man who was in the crash with Mathilde would remember the car that pursued her and then pulled up ahead to see if she lived or died. Apparently not.
Tatiana is definitely a complex and interesting character. I guess it's just her perfectionistic personality that makes her so against Rodrigo. She believes that because he abused drugs in the past, he's capable of anything. And she stubbornly clings to this.
Just when I was liking her a bit in the scene with Camila, she upsets the applecart by giving Julián the opportunity to blame what happened to Mathilde on Rodrigo.
I'm kind of looking forward to Lucy and Lola going at it hammer and tongs when the cut up undies are discovered. I wish PP would display a little backbone and stop letting her embarrass him at work and con him into undie buying sprees.
I agree, Blu, I enjoyed seeing Piedad's face when she saw the newspaper article and when Valeria told her that it was the least a woman who loved a man could do.
Permalink posted by : Thursday, January 27, 2011 at 3:05:00 PM EST
: Thursday, January 27, 2011 at 3:05:00 PM EST
HEREDEROS
Gosh that Rosa is a seriously annoying woman. Miguel finally used his head and told her about he and Sofía being in a crash together. Bratty little Consuelo has seemingly lost her ability to blackmail her father. But of course she said she'd keep trying for more "evidence".
José's character isn't making much sense right now. He doesn't really love Beatriz, but he's 100% in favor of grabbing the child from Efraín, who by any measure IS the child's father. Of course, grabbing him from his mother was not good and could be traumatic. But if they hadn't insisted on telling him he had no right to the child, I believe Efraín would have come around.
Every time Sofía wanders into the store and reams out Beatriz for having a personal errand I long to slap her. It doesn't appear Sofía does one thing in that store except rag on Beatriz. She's waaaay to busy causing trouble for los hermanos del Monte.
Not liking Mario Cimarro one bit in this one. He passed stoic a long time ago and moved on to wooden. And the character of Juan needs to stick up for his brothers once in a while instead of taking snotty Paula's side all the time.
Gosh that Rosa is a seriously annoying woman. Miguel finally used his head and told her about he and Sofía being in a crash together. Bratty little Consuelo has seemingly lost her ability to blackmail her father. But of course she said she'd keep trying for more "evidence".
José's character isn't making much sense right now. He doesn't really love Beatriz, but he's 100% in favor of grabbing the child from Efraín, who by any measure IS the child's father. Of course, grabbing him from his mother was not good and could be traumatic. But if they hadn't insisted on telling him he had no right to the child, I believe Efraín would have come around.
Every time Sofía wanders into the store and reams out Beatriz for having a personal errand I long to slap her. It doesn't appear Sofía does one thing in that store except rag on Beatriz. She's waaaay to busy causing trouble for los hermanos del Monte.
Not liking Mario Cimarro one bit in this one. He passed stoic a long time ago and moved on to wooden. And the character of Juan needs to stick up for his brothers once in a while instead of taking snotty Paula's side all the time.
Permalink posted by : Thursday, January 27, 2011 at 3:25:00 PM EST
: Thursday, January 27, 2011 at 3:25:00 PM EST
ALGUIEN
Blu- Thanks so much for the mini recap. I am both cheering on Valeria, and holding my breath that soon she will be in Julian's murderous sights.
Tati is a very complex character, and I think you're exactly right that it's her perfectionism that doesn't allow her to easily accept weakness in other people- like drug addiction, sex addiction or betrayal. She sees these people as being capable of anything (including murder). Remember she was even willing to consider Benja the murderer after his betrayal. LOL Blu about Isabela being a mini Tati. So true. But it's understandable why she would be ticked- from the kids' point of view, it was Tati who was being mean to their daddy by throwing him out. Now Isabel knows the reason and understands all too well why her mom threw Benja out. And she agrees with her.
Blu- Thanks so much for the mini recap. I am both cheering on Valeria, and holding my breath that soon she will be in Julian's murderous sights.
Tati is a very complex character, and I think you're exactly right that it's her perfectionism that doesn't allow her to easily accept weakness in other people- like drug addiction, sex addiction or betrayal. She sees these people as being capable of anything (including murder). Remember she was even willing to consider Benja the murderer after his betrayal. LOL Blu about Isabela being a mini Tati. So true. But it's understandable why she would be ticked- from the kids' point of view, it was Tati who was being mean to their daddy by throwing him out. Now Isabel knows the reason and understands all too well why her mom threw Benja out. And she agrees with her.
HEREDEROS
I'm not watching this, but have seen the comments about Mario C. He is great eye candy, but I have been wondering about his acting skills because I have caught a few episodes of Mar del Amor, on during the day. In that novela he is wooden and looks like he's in a daze most times. Forget an emotional scene! It's like the actress is in a scene all by herself-- she might as well be. All of this is to say, I am not surprised. But why continue to accept roles if you're not going to put in the effort?
I'm not watching this, but have seen the comments about Mario C. He is great eye candy, but I have been wondering about his acting skills because I have caught a few episodes of Mar del Amor, on during the day. In that novela he is wooden and looks like he's in a daze most times. Forget an emotional scene! It's like the actress is in a scene all by herself-- she might as well be. All of this is to say, I am not surprised. But why continue to accept roles if you're not going to put in the effort?
HEREDEROS
I think this story is supposed to be happening in Texas or someplace similar; the money being handled is US currency and they talk about "dollars".
To answer a previous question, any child born to a married woman is legally presumed to have been sired by her husband. This only changes if there is DNA evidence that another man did and if this goes anywhere near a courtroom.
I think this story is supposed to be happening in Texas or someplace similar; the money being handled is US currency and they talk about "dollars".
To answer a previous question, any child born to a married woman is legally presumed to have been sired by her husband. This only changes if there is DNA evidence that another man did and if this goes anywhere near a courtroom.
General comment
Vivi i agree if a actor isn't going to give it his all then why accept the role and it's obvious maybe these networks are desperate by giving him these roles instead of going with someone who may be less popular or not well known instead.
Alguien
As for Isadora i wasn't saying it as a criticism i mean i get why she was acting that way towards Camila from her child's perspective. I was thinking along the line that the night before we saw Julian morphed into Emilio. Then last night we see Tatiana and having a fit at the hospital and then her daughter having one first over the phone with her aunt and then at home when her aunt came to talk to her.No that little girl has every right to feel like she does it's just too funny not pass up the comparison between the two kids.
Novelera i think right now Pedro Pablo is buying into the idea of having a son and he's liking the idea more and more. As for Lola i thought she was cutting up more than Loca Lucia undies i thought she was cutting up her all of her clothes as well.I think Lola is ready to blow her stack so Pedro Pablo better make up his mind and get his act together real quick.
Valeria heck yes i was cheering her on while she may not end up with Rodrigo by the time this ends at least she gets to stick it in Piedad's face and let her stew in her jealous envy in her imagination that Rodrigo has replaced her with Valeria for now.I am definitely looking forward to that confrontation between the two tonight.
Vivi i agree if a actor isn't going to give it his all then why accept the role and it's obvious maybe these networks are desperate by giving him these roles instead of going with someone who may be less popular or not well known instead.
Alguien
As for Isadora i wasn't saying it as a criticism i mean i get why she was acting that way towards Camila from her child's perspective. I was thinking along the line that the night before we saw Julian morphed into Emilio. Then last night we see Tatiana and having a fit at the hospital and then her daughter having one first over the phone with her aunt and then at home when her aunt came to talk to her.No that little girl has every right to feel like she does it's just too funny not pass up the comparison between the two kids.
Novelera i think right now Pedro Pablo is buying into the idea of having a son and he's liking the idea more and more. As for Lola i thought she was cutting up more than Loca Lucia undies i thought she was cutting up her all of her clothes as well.I think Lola is ready to blow her stack so Pedro Pablo better make up his mind and get his act together real quick.
Valeria heck yes i was cheering her on while she may not end up with Rodrigo by the time this ends at least she gets to stick it in Piedad's face and let her stew in her jealous envy in her imagination that Rodrigo has replaced her with Valeria for now.I am definitely looking forward to that confrontation between the two tonight.
Permalink posted by : Thursday, January 27, 2011 at 4:57:00 PM EST
: Thursday, January 27, 2011 at 4:57:00 PM EST
AURORA
Yes, Elizabeth absolutely needs to take out Federico. He has to go!
Does Vanessa know that Cesar was involved in Blanca's kidnapping?
Is Vicki really dying or is it a sympathy lie to reconcile with Martin?
HEREDEROS
Please Elizabeth(Aurora), make Paula disappear. This character is so unlikeable, it's hard to believe she's a protagonist.
Elena Calcano(La Fantasma de elena)
& Ivanna (Soy tu dueno) were way more likable.
I'm glad Julieta cheated on Juan. He doesn't deserve her, she should be with someone who appreciates her.
Tika
Yes, Elizabeth absolutely needs to take out Federico. He has to go!
Does Vanessa know that Cesar was involved in Blanca's kidnapping?
Is Vicki really dying or is it a sympathy lie to reconcile with Martin?
HEREDEROS
Please Elizabeth(Aurora), make Paula disappear. This character is so unlikeable, it's hard to believe she's a protagonist.
Elena Calcano(La Fantasma de elena)
& Ivanna (Soy tu dueno) were way more likable.
I'm glad Julieta cheated on Juan. He doesn't deserve her, she should be with someone who appreciates her.
Tika
Permalink posted by : Thursday, January 27, 2011 at 5:35:00 PM EST
: Thursday, January 27, 2011 at 5:35:00 PM EST
HEREDEROS - Many of the Telemundo novelas like Herederos are made to be distributed all over the world. Unlike the self-consciously Mexican novelas on Univisión, they do not take place in any particular country. The characters use dollars and refer to 'the capital' but there is no other reference to where the action is taking place.
As for Mario Cimarro, he can act. He was great in PdG and I thought he was fantastic in La Traición where he played identical twins with different personalities and even voices. Mar de Amor was one of those ghastly over-the-top Univisión novelas that they are not even showing in prime time here. If he isn't giving his best for this big budget Telemundo production, he is crazy and will kill what is left of his career.
As for Mario Cimarro, he can act. He was great in PdG and I thought he was fantastic in La Traición where he played identical twins with different personalities and even voices. Mar de Amor was one of those ghastly over-the-top Univisión novelas that they are not even showing in prime time here. If he isn't giving his best for this big budget Telemundo production, he is crazy and will kill what is left of his career.
Herederos
I was asking about where the town was located for the novela based on the laws of the country. I've seen in novelas no matter who the child father is if he's born during the marriage he remains the child of the father born in that marriage. That's why i was asking the question in reference to Efrain because i don't like how everyone expects him to give up what he considers his child because plainly speaking his wife is a slut. Why should she be rewarded for her low down behavior, if she didn't have the courage to tell Efrain hey guess what i'm not in love with you anymore let's get a divorce now. But sneaked around his back and had a affair with Jose and the child might be Jose or it could be Efrain i think it's kind of arrogant of everyone to expect Efrain to give up the child so easily.
There hasn't been a DNA test taken yet to prove the actual paternity of who Simon's real father is.Unless Beatriz is trying to imply that she never slept with Efrain during the time of conception at all. Still Efrain does love him and maybe it doesn't matter to him if Simon isn't his or not or he could be using at a way to get back at them both.
I was asking about where the town was located for the novela based on the laws of the country. I've seen in novelas no matter who the child father is if he's born during the marriage he remains the child of the father born in that marriage. That's why i was asking the question in reference to Efrain because i don't like how everyone expects him to give up what he considers his child because plainly speaking his wife is a slut. Why should she be rewarded for her low down behavior, if she didn't have the courage to tell Efrain hey guess what i'm not in love with you anymore let's get a divorce now. But sneaked around his back and had a affair with Jose and the child might be Jose or it could be Efrain i think it's kind of arrogant of everyone to expect Efrain to give up the child so easily.
There hasn't been a DNA test taken yet to prove the actual paternity of who Simon's real father is.Unless Beatriz is trying to imply that she never slept with Efrain during the time of conception at all. Still Efrain does love him and maybe it doesn't matter to him if Simon isn't his or not or he could be using at a way to get back at them both.
Permalink posted by : Thursday, January 27, 2011 at 6:03:00 PM EST
: Thursday, January 27, 2011 at 6:03:00 PM EST
ALGUIEN; WEDNESDAY
Alot of interesting comments about Wednesday's show.
I was glad to read the comment that the writers are obviously trying to manipulate the viewer to feel sorry for Julian. Sometimes I do feel sorry for him, and I was wondering what was wrong with me.
In thinking about his "conversations" with Zanetti, I am always surprised that in his imagination she is much warmer, more seductive, and almost softer than she was when she was alive. (Another good acting job). Even though she is saying things that he doesn't want to hear (or in reality he is thinking things he doesn't want to think),she doesn't do it in a hostile or tough way --which she would have when she was alive. I think it's a subtle/nuanced touch of writers/director/actress.
Re Benjamin: the fact that he was able to reject the sexy patient who was coming on to him makes me think that his character is growing/maturing, and maybe there is still the chance that he and Tatiana will get together.
Still have no idea and am wondering how the Camila plot will unfold.
I'm with the people who think Lucy bribed the doctor. Remember that she seems to have some underwrold connections. I don't think in the end she will be pregnant.
Alot of interesting comments about Wednesday's show.
I was glad to read the comment that the writers are obviously trying to manipulate the viewer to feel sorry for Julian. Sometimes I do feel sorry for him, and I was wondering what was wrong with me.
In thinking about his "conversations" with Zanetti, I am always surprised that in his imagination she is much warmer, more seductive, and almost softer than she was when she was alive. (Another good acting job). Even though she is saying things that he doesn't want to hear (or in reality he is thinking things he doesn't want to think),she doesn't do it in a hostile or tough way --which she would have when she was alive. I think it's a subtle/nuanced touch of writers/director/actress.
Re Benjamin: the fact that he was able to reject the sexy patient who was coming on to him makes me think that his character is growing/maturing, and maybe there is still the chance that he and Tatiana will get together.
Still have no idea and am wondering how the Camila plot will unfold.
I'm with the people who think Lucy bribed the doctor. Remember that she seems to have some underwrold connections. I don't think in the end she will be pregnant.
Permalink posted by : Thursday, January 27, 2011 at 6:23:00 PM EST
: Thursday, January 27, 2011 at 6:23:00 PM EST
HEREDEROS -
Blu, I think there WAS a DNA test. Beatriz told Jose she suspected he was the father. He said no way. They went to the doctor, did the DNA test, and the results were positive. He is the father.
I totally agree that Beatriz and Jose have been terrible about this, but a) it's more that they don't want Efrain to take the child away from THEM, than they want to take Simon away from Efrain, and b) Beatriz supposedly strayed out of love, which is a big thing in these novelas. Of course, Jose didn't love her. But he's willing to be responsible for the child's upbringing, which I think he has to, legally.
Blu, I think there WAS a DNA test. Beatriz told Jose she suspected he was the father. He said no way. They went to the doctor, did the DNA test, and the results were positive. He is the father.
I totally agree that Beatriz and Jose have been terrible about this, but a) it's more that they don't want Efrain to take the child away from THEM, than they want to take Simon away from Efrain, and b) Beatriz supposedly strayed out of love, which is a big thing in these novelas. Of course, Jose didn't love her. But he's willing to be responsible for the child's upbringing, which I think he has to, legally.
Herederos
Thanks for clearing things up Hombre i would say still even if Efrain isn't the father if he wants access to the child he still has a right it was born during their marriage. But i guess they will have to fight that out in the courts.
I'm agreeing with Tika that they need to borrow Elizabeth from Aurora to take out Paula in this one:)
Thanks for clearing things up Hombre i would say still even if Efrain isn't the father if he wants access to the child he still has a right it was born during their marriage. But i guess they will have to fight that out in the courts.
I'm agreeing with Tika that they need to borrow Elizabeth from Aurora to take out Paula in this one:)
Permalink posted by : Thursday, January 27, 2011 at 7:12:00 PM EST
: Thursday, January 27, 2011 at 7:12:00 PM EST
GENERAL
Televisa's novelas are also seen all over the world. Some years ago I had a Russsian colleague who was into them and arranged his class schedule around Los Ricos Tambien Lloran. On YouTube you can find uploads of familiar novelas in other languages as well.
HEREDEROS
Ditto on getting Elizabeth from Aurora to finish off Paula. She is a nasty piece of work.
AURORA
This latest development should -- we hope -- be the beginning of the end of the story. Aurora now knows what a snake Vanessa is and now Rebeca will be out of the way. However, Martin will have to learn the truth. It's not right for him not to know, but somehow I don't think he will until Elizabeth's hypnosis scheme is fully disclosed.
Televisa's novelas are also seen all over the world. Some years ago I had a Russsian colleague who was into them and arranged his class schedule around Los Ricos Tambien Lloran. On YouTube you can find uploads of familiar novelas in other languages as well.
HEREDEROS
Ditto on getting Elizabeth from Aurora to finish off Paula. She is a nasty piece of work.
AURORA
This latest development should -- we hope -- be the beginning of the end of the story. Aurora now knows what a snake Vanessa is and now Rebeca will be out of the way. However, Martin will have to learn the truth. It's not right for him not to know, but somehow I don't think he will until Elizabeth's hypnosis scheme is fully disclosed.
I actually like Aurora! The jello-blood shootings on Tuesday and the catfight today were comic gold. Glad the whole Stockholm syndrome thing worked out for Cesar and Blanca.
I missed Wednesday though- how did Martin come back after being shot?
I hope Aurora and Martin and Lorenzo will be a secret incestual polygamist family together, and somehow never let Martin find out.
I missed Wednesday though- how did Martin come back after being shot?
I hope Aurora and Martin and Lorenzo will be a secret incestual polygamist family together, and somehow never let Martin find out.
Permalink posted by : Friday, January 28, 2011 at 12:36:00 AM EST
: Friday, January 28, 2011 at 12:36:00 AM EST
Alguien
Valeria lays into Piedad of her non support of Rodrigo and how she's going to marry someone else. She lets Piedad know don't worry i'll be there for Rodrigo i believe in his innocence and i will will help get him freed. Oh by the way i'll also help him with being happy again.Piedad doesn't appreciate being talked to by Valeria this way and blames her for the reason why Rodrigo escaped that night she had no right to tell him that.
She tells Valeria go ahead and be happy with Rodrigo as Valeria takes in this.
Lola shows up with a black plastic bag she asks Veronica to call Loca Lucia for her. Lucia happens to walk out just then as Lola announces she has a surprise for her in the bag. Loca Lucia is happy until she sees the contents dumped in the middle of the floor of the reception room are her clothes all cut up by Lola. She cries as Lola announces to everyone present that Lucia is her husband's lover and she should go another shopping spree with him to replace everything she cut up.
Benja comes out and breaks up the scene chastising his sister for causing a scandal at work he drags her into his office.
Tatiana is still there with Julian who is upset with learning about Rodrigo's escape. Benja tells them what just happened with Lola as Julian leaves.
Loca Lucia is crying over her destroyed clothes as Julian ask Veronica where's Piedad she tells him she is with Rodrigo's friend.Lucia is angered by what happen as a another nurse is telling her she is messing with a married man. Lucia vows to bring more pain to Lola.
Valeria then asks Piedad changing the subject about Daniel Vidal and if he works there as Piedad says no he's Julian's step father as Valeria almost ask more about Daniel Vidal Julian walks in.He's introduced to Valeria as she is Rodrigo's friend he greets her shaking her hand. As we see a repulsed Valeria not to happy being touched by him. He ask if she can excuse them because he has something private to discuss with Piedad.
Valeria lays into Piedad of her non support of Rodrigo and how she's going to marry someone else. She lets Piedad know don't worry i'll be there for Rodrigo i believe in his innocence and i will will help get him freed. Oh by the way i'll also help him with being happy again.Piedad doesn't appreciate being talked to by Valeria this way and blames her for the reason why Rodrigo escaped that night she had no right to tell him that.
She tells Valeria go ahead and be happy with Rodrigo as Valeria takes in this.
Lola shows up with a black plastic bag she asks Veronica to call Loca Lucia for her. Lucia happens to walk out just then as Lola announces she has a surprise for her in the bag. Loca Lucia is happy until she sees the contents dumped in the middle of the floor of the reception room are her clothes all cut up by Lola. She cries as Lola announces to everyone present that Lucia is her husband's lover and she should go another shopping spree with him to replace everything she cut up.
Benja comes out and breaks up the scene chastising his sister for causing a scandal at work he drags her into his office.
Tatiana is still there with Julian who is upset with learning about Rodrigo's escape. Benja tells them what just happened with Lola as Julian leaves.
Loca Lucia is crying over her destroyed clothes as Julian ask Veronica where's Piedad she tells him she is with Rodrigo's friend.Lucia is angered by what happen as a another nurse is telling her she is messing with a married man. Lucia vows to bring more pain to Lola.
Valeria then asks Piedad changing the subject about Daniel Vidal and if he works there as Piedad says no he's Julian's step father as Valeria almost ask more about Daniel Vidal Julian walks in.He's introduced to Valeria as she is Rodrigo's friend he greets her shaking her hand. As we see a repulsed Valeria not to happy being touched by him. He ask if she can excuse them because he has something private to discuss with Piedad.
Permalink posted by : Friday, January 28, 2011 at 1:43:00 AM EST
: Friday, January 28, 2011 at 1:43:00 AM EST
Alguien
Luisa,Amador and the other cop who interviewed the witness discuss the latest developments of the case. They are sure it was "El Cazador" who was attacking Matilde that night.
Benja tells Lola she needs to calm down and she can't be coming here acting like this. As Lola tries to compare his actions with Pedro Pablo. Tatiana gets a phone call from her maid telling her sister is at the house trying to speak to Isadora. Tatiana isn't happy with this and tells her to keep her sister away from her kids. Once again she blames Benja for the mess he created with his affairs.
Pedro Pablo tells Rodrigo that he needs to wait until they released him and don't pull anymore stunts like escaping like he did last time. Rodrigo tells Pedro Pablo who he suspects is the killer he tells him Julian. Pedro Pablo says he doesn't have any proof of that and he sounds like he is jealous because Piedad is going to marry Julian. Pedro Pablo lets Rodrigo know because of Matilde's accident on the night he escaped he could be blamed for that.
Julian confronts Piedad over helping Rodrigo when he escaped as Piedad tells him he only came to the apartment. Julian tries to insinuate and lay blame on Rodrigo as the killer and he's responsible for Matilde's accident. Piedad defends Rodrigo to Julian telling him he doesn't have a car and it's not possible for him to do that. Julian let's slip his jealousy of Rodrigo coming to his apartment to be with Piedad as she looks at him with a concerned look.
Daniel Vidal is at a internet cafe tracking the boxes of gruesome goodies he sent online he says out loud they should be arriving today.
Valeria is having a photo shoot and the girl is working it and doing her thing.
Luisa,Amador and the other cop who interviewed the witness discuss the latest developments of the case. They are sure it was "El Cazador" who was attacking Matilde that night.
Benja tells Lola she needs to calm down and she can't be coming here acting like this. As Lola tries to compare his actions with Pedro Pablo. Tatiana gets a phone call from her maid telling her sister is at the house trying to speak to Isadora. Tatiana isn't happy with this and tells her to keep her sister away from her kids. Once again she blames Benja for the mess he created with his affairs.
Pedro Pablo tells Rodrigo that he needs to wait until they released him and don't pull anymore stunts like escaping like he did last time. Rodrigo tells Pedro Pablo who he suspects is the killer he tells him Julian. Pedro Pablo says he doesn't have any proof of that and he sounds like he is jealous because Piedad is going to marry Julian. Pedro Pablo lets Rodrigo know because of Matilde's accident on the night he escaped he could be blamed for that.
Julian confronts Piedad over helping Rodrigo when he escaped as Piedad tells him he only came to the apartment. Julian tries to insinuate and lay blame on Rodrigo as the killer and he's responsible for Matilde's accident. Piedad defends Rodrigo to Julian telling him he doesn't have a car and it's not possible for him to do that. Julian let's slip his jealousy of Rodrigo coming to his apartment to be with Piedad as she looks at him with a concerned look.
Daniel Vidal is at a internet cafe tracking the boxes of gruesome goodies he sent online he says out loud they should be arriving today.
Valeria is having a photo shoot and the girl is working it and doing her thing.
Permalink posted by : Friday, January 28, 2011 at 1:54:00 AM EST
: Friday, January 28, 2011 at 1:54:00 AM EST
Alguien
Benja and Tatiana arrive at the house with Benja cautioning Tatiana not to cause another scandal please. Tatiana charges into the house with Benja on her heels following.
The cop who interviewed the witness of Matilde's accidents warns Luisa of harassing anyone else. As of right now until they get more evidence the main person of interest is Daniel Vidal. He leaves her and Amador alone. Amador says to Luisa to don't bother Julian Garcia there's no evidence to prove he's the killer you're just going on what Rodrigo suspects.Luisa vows to keep a close eye on him anyway and she will find the proof.
Tatiana is told by the maid what happened with Camila as she tells her to watch over the kids. Tatiana and Benja search the house for Camila.
Valeria is still at her photo shoot doing her thing as she remembers Rodrigo warning her to stay away from the clinic and how dangerous it would be for her snooping there.She pauses it looks like she is beginning to understand why Rodrigo warn her to stay away from the clinic.
Julian follows Piedad into his apartment still not happy she kept Rodrigo's escape away from him he ask her to promise not to keep anymore secrets from him. Piedad fed up says to him and what about you and the money you took out from the practice what are you hiding from me she ask him?
Julian quickly thinking on his feet told her it was going to be a surprise but he was going to use the money to buy a big house for him,Emilio and her and the baby. Piedad the dumb dope is touched by this lie as Julian then tells her of course he can't do that now because he has to use the money to pay for Matilde's hospital bills.
You have to give it to him he's good and slick.
Benja and Tatiana arrive at the house with Benja cautioning Tatiana not to cause another scandal please. Tatiana charges into the house with Benja on her heels following.
The cop who interviewed the witness of Matilde's accidents warns Luisa of harassing anyone else. As of right now until they get more evidence the main person of interest is Daniel Vidal. He leaves her and Amador alone. Amador says to Luisa to don't bother Julian Garcia there's no evidence to prove he's the killer you're just going on what Rodrigo suspects.Luisa vows to keep a close eye on him anyway and she will find the proof.
Tatiana is told by the maid what happened with Camila as she tells her to watch over the kids. Tatiana and Benja search the house for Camila.
Valeria is still at her photo shoot doing her thing as she remembers Rodrigo warning her to stay away from the clinic and how dangerous it would be for her snooping there.She pauses it looks like she is beginning to understand why Rodrigo warn her to stay away from the clinic.
Julian follows Piedad into his apartment still not happy she kept Rodrigo's escape away from him he ask her to promise not to keep anymore secrets from him. Piedad fed up says to him and what about you and the money you took out from the practice what are you hiding from me she ask him?
Julian quickly thinking on his feet told her it was going to be a surprise but he was going to use the money to buy a big house for him,Emilio and her and the baby. Piedad the dumb dope is touched by this lie as Julian then tells her of course he can't do that now because he has to use the money to pay for Matilde's hospital bills.
You have to give it to him he's good and slick.
Permalink posted by : Friday, January 28, 2011 at 2:04:00 AM EST
: Friday, January 28, 2011 at 2:04:00 AM EST
Alguien
Tatiana and Benja wonder where Camila went as Tatiana says she'll call the police to look for her. They hear a noise and discover Camila hiding in the clothes closet.
Camila sits there as Tatiana blames them both again for the mess that they made and she is tired of them both. She is also done with them both as Tatiana tells them to leave Camila shouts out she has no where to go she lost her apartment and everything of hers was thrown out on the street.
Daniel Vidal walks through the internet Cafe a woman looks at him and he smiles at her. The woman doesn't smile back but looks scared as Daniel sees what she's looking at on her computer he leaves the cafe quickly as the woman calls the cops.
Rodrigo gets another visitor it's Tatiana she lays into for escaping being judgmental and her Tatiana way and accusing him of causing Matilde's accident.Rodrigo looks back at her in shock.
Piedad is taking a bubble bath as Valeria's words reverberate in her mind. She doesn't look to happy and she looks like she has some regret for the way things are between her and Rodrigo.
Julian opens a safe he takes something out of it, we see it's Matilde's black purse he takes out the picture of his mother and puts that into his pocket folded up. As he puts Maltide's purse back into the safe, he walks quietly to spy on Piedad taking her bath. He seems mesmerized by her the creepy pervert.
Rodrigo tells Benja now he suspects that Julian is the killer. Piedad gets two big boxes and opens them up she is terrorized by the contents. I suspected that Daniel Vidal would send those boxes to Piedad.
Julian did ask Piedad again about Valeria and her relationship to Rodrigo so she could be next on his hit list.
Also Rodrigo told Pedro Pablo about the picture Matilde had and the dress the woman was wearing was the same one they found on Eva's body. Pedro ask Rodrigo if he saw the picture and of course he told him no so Pedro says if they don't have the evidence then what you're saying doesn't have any meaning until the evidence is discovered.
So let's see who Rodrigo hasn't told he suspects that Julian is the killer.
Tatiana and Benja wonder where Camila went as Tatiana says she'll call the police to look for her. They hear a noise and discover Camila hiding in the clothes closet.
Camila sits there as Tatiana blames them both again for the mess that they made and she is tired of them both. She is also done with them both as Tatiana tells them to leave Camila shouts out she has no where to go she lost her apartment and everything of hers was thrown out on the street.
Daniel Vidal walks through the internet Cafe a woman looks at him and he smiles at her. The woman doesn't smile back but looks scared as Daniel sees what she's looking at on her computer he leaves the cafe quickly as the woman calls the cops.
Rodrigo gets another visitor it's Tatiana she lays into for escaping being judgmental and her Tatiana way and accusing him of causing Matilde's accident.Rodrigo looks back at her in shock.
Piedad is taking a bubble bath as Valeria's words reverberate in her mind. She doesn't look to happy and she looks like she has some regret for the way things are between her and Rodrigo.
Julian opens a safe he takes something out of it, we see it's Matilde's black purse he takes out the picture of his mother and puts that into his pocket folded up. As he puts Maltide's purse back into the safe, he walks quietly to spy on Piedad taking her bath. He seems mesmerized by her the creepy pervert.
Rodrigo tells Benja now he suspects that Julian is the killer. Piedad gets two big boxes and opens them up she is terrorized by the contents. I suspected that Daniel Vidal would send those boxes to Piedad.
Julian did ask Piedad again about Valeria and her relationship to Rodrigo so she could be next on his hit list.
Also Rodrigo told Pedro Pablo about the picture Matilde had and the dress the woman was wearing was the same one they found on Eva's body. Pedro ask Rodrigo if he saw the picture and of course he told him no so Pedro says if they don't have the evidence then what you're saying doesn't have any meaning until the evidence is discovered.
So let's see who Rodrigo hasn't told he suspects that Julian is the killer.
Permalink posted by : Friday, January 28, 2011 at 2:22:00 AM EST
: Friday, January 28, 2011 at 2:22:00 AM EST
AURORA -- Miercoles
Anonymous 12:36A: There was no explanation about Martin's recovery. We are left to assume that Cesar was smart enough to not go into this OK Corral situation without making sure they all had Kevlar vests.
AURORA -- Jueves
Best development is the discovery of Elizabeth's hypnosis. I hope Aurora and Lorenzo can copy the video before Elizabeth finds out that they know.
In true narcissistic fashion Vanessa, Natalia, and Federico project their own evil onto Aurora. Of the three Vanessa is the last one who should be doing this; she is the most successful of them. Sick bitch.
Anonymous 12:36A: There was no explanation about Martin's recovery. We are left to assume that Cesar was smart enough to not go into this OK Corral situation without making sure they all had Kevlar vests.
AURORA -- Jueves
Best development is the discovery of Elizabeth's hypnosis. I hope Aurora and Lorenzo can copy the video before Elizabeth finds out that they know.
In true narcissistic fashion Vanessa, Natalia, and Federico project their own evil onto Aurora. Of the three Vanessa is the last one who should be doing this; she is the most successful of them. Sick bitch.
AURORA -- Wednesday
I thought there was a little flashback scene showing César hastily providing Martín with a bullet-proof vest before he entered the fray.
ALGUIEN -- Thursday
Thanks for the recap, Blu. Let me just say that I hate hate hate creepy bath/shower scenes
ALGUIEN -- Wednesday
Novelera, I meant that Matilde's blinking, if it is under voluntary control, could be used as a binary code. It could be a simple yes=one, no=two in response to a verbal question. It could also be a response to an image: Is this the person who was chasing you? The blinking could also be used to spell out words and sentences (excruciatingly slowly, perhaps) as someone holds an alphabet board in front of her and points at each letter in turn.
I thought there was a little flashback scene showing César hastily providing Martín with a bullet-proof vest before he entered the fray.
ALGUIEN -- Thursday
Thanks for the recap, Blu. Let me just say that I hate hate hate creepy bath/shower scenes
ALGUIEN -- Wednesday
Novelera, I meant that Matilde's blinking, if it is under voluntary control, could be used as a binary code. It could be a simple yes=one, no=two in response to a verbal question. It could also be a response to an image: Is this the person who was chasing you? The blinking could also be used to spell out words and sentences (excruciatingly slowly, perhaps) as someone holds an alphabet board in front of her and points at each letter in turn.
ALGUIEN - Thursday
Thanks, Blu for the summary. I agree with your observations, too, and you were right about Rodrigo telling everyone, but no one believing him. I think Valeria has also now figured out that Rodrigo suspects Julian.
That look of revenge in Lucy's eyes reminded us how crazy she really is.
NovelaMaven, although lots of times they use blinking in novelas, we don't know if Matilde can actually control her eyes, since she's "totally paralyzed", whatever that means. I hope she can, though.
Piedad keeps getting signals that she's making a mistake by abandoning Rodrigo (sort of) and going with Julian. And she keeps vacillating back and forth. Trust your heart, Piedad! You know you still love Rod, and he loves you.
I was glad that Luisa, out of all the cops, insisted on put a tail on Julian, even though the Prefect said it was a waste of resources. She's one of the few hopeful signs in the police, even better than Eva was, since she's not letting herself get personally or emotionally involved.
Thanks, Blu for the summary. I agree with your observations, too, and you were right about Rodrigo telling everyone, but no one believing him. I think Valeria has also now figured out that Rodrigo suspects Julian.
That look of revenge in Lucy's eyes reminded us how crazy she really is.
NovelaMaven, although lots of times they use blinking in novelas, we don't know if Matilde can actually control her eyes, since she's "totally paralyzed", whatever that means. I hope she can, though.
Piedad keeps getting signals that she's making a mistake by abandoning Rodrigo (sort of) and going with Julian. And she keeps vacillating back and forth. Trust your heart, Piedad! You know you still love Rod, and he loves you.
I was glad that Luisa, out of all the cops, insisted on put a tail on Julian, even though the Prefect said it was a waste of resources. She's one of the few hopeful signs in the police, even better than Eva was, since she's not letting herself get personally or emotionally involved.
HEREDEROS - Thursday
Bad girls Sofia and Paula keep using their sex appeal to wrap the boys around their little fingers. Paula has a nice little bathing scene, and Sofia first came on to Miguel in his own bedroom while the family was eating, then in the stable, where they proceeded to get caught by Juan. Whoops!
Juan continues to have that sleepy look. Can someone please light a fire under the guy?
Poor Rosario dared to declare her feelings to Lucas, who declined, because he's pining for Paula. I still have hopes for these two, though.
And the creep Eleuterio! He's been telling Guadalupe her Mom was dead. But really her Mom's been writing, and he's been intercepting the mail. Bad Eleuterio!
As for the Jose - Beatriz - Efrain thing, to me, it's booorrrinnng.
Bad girls Sofia and Paula keep using their sex appeal to wrap the boys around their little fingers. Paula has a nice little bathing scene, and Sofia first came on to Miguel in his own bedroom while the family was eating, then in the stable, where they proceeded to get caught by Juan. Whoops!
Juan continues to have that sleepy look. Can someone please light a fire under the guy?
Poor Rosario dared to declare her feelings to Lucas, who declined, because he's pining for Paula. I still have hopes for these two, though.
And the creep Eleuterio! He's been telling Guadalupe her Mom was dead. But really her Mom's been writing, and he's been intercepting the mail. Bad Eleuterio!
As for the Jose - Beatriz - Efrain thing, to me, it's booorrrinnng.
ALGUIEN
Piedad just can't stop putting her foot in her mouth. Now she's put Valeria at risk talking with Julián about her. I did like it when she got exasperated and turned the tables on Julián, bringing up the sale of stock. But, of course, he wiggled out.
I rather enjoyed the modeling photo shoot with Valeria. Maybe the actress really is a model. It was nice to see her with a different expression on her face than anxious!
I was cheering when Lola dumped the cut up undies on the floor. But it looks like there's going to be major payback.
Piedad just can't stop putting her foot in her mouth. Now she's put Valeria at risk talking with Julián about her. I did like it when she got exasperated and turned the tables on Julián, bringing up the sale of stock. But, of course, he wiggled out.
I rather enjoyed the modeling photo shoot with Valeria. Maybe the actress really is a model. It was nice to see her with a different expression on her face than anxious!
I was cheering when Lola dumped the cut up undies on the floor. But it looks like there's going to be major payback.
Permalink posted by : Friday, January 28, 2011 at 1:48:00 PM EST
: Friday, January 28, 2011 at 1:48:00 PM EST
HEREDEROS
Yes, indeed, I have been fed up with Eleuterio since day one. Keeping those letters from his daughter was beyond rotten and selfish. It's all about him and his wounded masculine ego because his wife was unfaithful. I really hope Guadalupe turns out not to be his. I keep yelling at the screen: Lupe, tell him you're going to marry Gaspar (whom I love) and to stuff it! Lupe, tell him Beatriz is your friend and butt out! Maybe now she'll be able to break his hold on her.
I could not believe the stupidity of Beatriz. She's just mortally wounded her husband and possibly created a psychiatrist's couch moment for her child, and what does she do? She gets a stupid smile on her face and tries to hook José as her pareja. I now have NO sympathy for her.
Juan is a dunce. He sits there on his horse watching Paula in the scuzzy water giving her more ammunition to keep trying to break up his wedding plans with Julieta.
Jean, I didn't see either Pasión de Gavilanes nor La Traición, so I guess I haven't seen Cimarro act. I've only seen him in El Cuerpo del Deseo and this one. In both these novelas he seems like a boring piece of beefcake.
Yes, indeed, I have been fed up with Eleuterio since day one. Keeping those letters from his daughter was beyond rotten and selfish. It's all about him and his wounded masculine ego because his wife was unfaithful. I really hope Guadalupe turns out not to be his. I keep yelling at the screen: Lupe, tell him you're going to marry Gaspar (whom I love) and to stuff it! Lupe, tell him Beatriz is your friend and butt out! Maybe now she'll be able to break his hold on her.
I could not believe the stupidity of Beatriz. She's just mortally wounded her husband and possibly created a psychiatrist's couch moment for her child, and what does she do? She gets a stupid smile on her face and tries to hook José as her pareja. I now have NO sympathy for her.
Juan is a dunce. He sits there on his horse watching Paula in the scuzzy water giving her more ammunition to keep trying to break up his wedding plans with Julieta.
Jean, I didn't see either Pasión de Gavilanes nor La Traición, so I guess I haven't seen Cimarro act. I've only seen him in El Cuerpo del Deseo and this one. In both these novelas he seems like a boring piece of beefcake.
Permalink posted by : Friday, January 28, 2011 at 1:57:00 PM EST
: Friday, January 28, 2011 at 1:57:00 PM EST
HEREDEROS
PDG was a good story and MC gave a good performance in it. Lots of good shirtless scenes in the opening week, too. Also, the development of his relationship with Norma was handled well by the writers.
Juan del Monte isn't thinking with his brain and it really amazes me how hormones can trump poison.
PDG was a good story and MC gave a good performance in it. Lots of good shirtless scenes in the opening week, too. Also, the development of his relationship with Norma was handled well by the writers.
Juan del Monte isn't thinking with his brain and it really amazes me how hormones can trump poison.
Herederos
I have to ask don't they have indoor plumbing in the house or do they have to wash outside and the scuzzy looking lake?
So let me get this straight Beatriz thought she was going to become Jose woman by cheating on Efrain like that and getting pregnant?
Alguien
Hombre i was LOL of course when we saw Rodrigo tell Pedro Pablo and from the previews for tonight's episode Benja is next. Who hasn't he told yet that's all i'm asking.
That's why Loca Lucia is one serious dangerous and crazy chick, i really do believe something terrible might happen between the two of them if Pedro Pablo doesn't find a solution for getting her out of their lives.
You definitely hit it what the problem was when Eva was in charge of the case she was too personally and emotionally involved. She couldn't be objective anymore especially when Luisa bought up suspecting Julian she wouldn't hear of it at first.
I have to ask don't they have indoor plumbing in the house or do they have to wash outside and the scuzzy looking lake?
So let me get this straight Beatriz thought she was going to become Jose woman by cheating on Efrain like that and getting pregnant?
Alguien
Hombre i was LOL of course when we saw Rodrigo tell Pedro Pablo and from the previews for tonight's episode Benja is next. Who hasn't he told yet that's all i'm asking.
That's why Loca Lucia is one serious dangerous and crazy chick, i really do believe something terrible might happen between the two of them if Pedro Pablo doesn't find a solution for getting her out of their lives.
You definitely hit it what the problem was when Eva was in charge of the case she was too personally and emotionally involved. She couldn't be objective anymore especially when Luisa bought up suspecting Julian she wouldn't hear of it at first.
Permalink posted by : Friday, January 28, 2011 at 5:29:00 PM EST
: Friday, January 28, 2011 at 5:29:00 PM EST
ALGUIEN-
Blu, as always, thanks for the mini recap. All the comments have been great. One more thing I'd like to add about the Tati-Benja-Camila situation is that Benja asked Tati to let Camila stay with her while she finds a place. Camila wanted to know why Camila can't live with him and he gave her two answers: 1) He doesn't have his own place and is staying in an already full house; and 2) He doesn't, nor will he ever, want to live with Camila. They are no longer in a relationship. The idea of Camila living in her house was very hard for Tati to swallow, but since we didn't see the end of that scene, I assume she gave in.
Valeria did look great in her shoot, and I was cheering her on since we've seen her spiral in her previous jobs. She looked on top of her game-- until her brain worked overtime and she started putting the pieces together about who the murderer is. I really don't want her to die, but I suspect that since we're not done with the murders before this show wraps up, she'll be on the hit list. It will also get her out of the way so that Rod and Piedad can be together with no complications. Although, right now, Piedad doesn't deserve Rod.
Blu, as always, thanks for the mini recap. All the comments have been great. One more thing I'd like to add about the Tati-Benja-Camila situation is that Benja asked Tati to let Camila stay with her while she finds a place. Camila wanted to know why Camila can't live with him and he gave her two answers: 1) He doesn't have his own place and is staying in an already full house; and 2) He doesn't, nor will he ever, want to live with Camila. They are no longer in a relationship. The idea of Camila living in her house was very hard for Tati to swallow, but since we didn't see the end of that scene, I assume she gave in.
Valeria did look great in her shoot, and I was cheering her on since we've seen her spiral in her previous jobs. She looked on top of her game-- until her brain worked overtime and she started putting the pieces together about who the murderer is. I really don't want her to die, but I suspect that since we're not done with the murders before this show wraps up, she'll be on the hit list. It will also get her out of the way so that Rod and Piedad can be together with no complications. Although, right now, Piedad doesn't deserve Rod.
AURORA
Urban Anthro - I agree it's great that Elizabeth has been caught on tape doing one of her session with Aurora. Who do you think secretly taped her? Maybe Vanessa? Vanessa seems to want everyone under her thumb.
As for Blanca, I expected her hate Cesar after he exposed himself as her kidnapper.
Now that these two are engaged, I bet Vanessa will try to ruin their
wedding.
HERERDEROS
Unbelievable, Beatriz is already trying to snare Jose. She could of at least waited until things were resolved a bit with Jose.
Now i'm refering to the actress who played the character Latiffa in El Clon, I can't remember her character's name at the moment.
Anyways, since Gasper rejected her
I wonder if she'll try to do a makeover on herself as an atempt to catch his eye.
Urban Anthro - I agree it's great that Elizabeth has been caught on tape doing one of her session with Aurora. Who do you think secretly taped her? Maybe Vanessa? Vanessa seems to want everyone under her thumb.
As for Blanca, I expected her hate Cesar after he exposed himself as her kidnapper.
Now that these two are engaged, I bet Vanessa will try to ruin their
wedding.
HERERDEROS
Unbelievable, Beatriz is already trying to snare Jose. She could of at least waited until things were resolved a bit with Jose.
Now i'm refering to the actress who played the character Latiffa in El Clon, I can't remember her character's name at the moment.
Anyways, since Gasper rejected her
I wonder if she'll try to do a makeover on herself as an atempt to catch his eye.
Permalink posted by : Friday, January 28, 2011 at 7:19:00 PM EST
: Friday, January 28, 2011 at 7:19:00 PM EST
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Tika
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Tika
Permalink posted by : Friday, January 28, 2011 at 7:22:00 PM EST
: Friday, January 28, 2011 at 7:22:00 PM EST
HEREDEROS-
Tika, I think you mean Rosario, who was rejected by Lucas. I also would like to see her (or any of the gals) with a makeover. Especially Guadalupe and Beatriz, who are actually great looking, but dress so boring on this show.
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Tika, I think you mean Rosario, who was rejected by Lucas. I also would like to see her (or any of the gals) with a makeover. Especially Guadalupe and Beatriz, who are actually great looking, but dress so boring on this show.
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