Thursday, March 31, 2011
Teresa Thu 3/31/11 #2 No more humiliations
(Caray needs recappers for this telenovela; thanks to Aribeth for the title and screen caps! See briefs from Aribeth and Vivi below -- thank you!)
From Aribeth:
So. What we learned last night?
- Mariano was Teresa's first boyfriend and she's still in love with him.
- From the first episode: Mariano's mom died because they couldn't afford her medical treatments.
- Mariano used to study medicine but he had to drop out of school (because of his mother's illness). Teresa left him because she can't be with someone who doesn't have ambitions.
- Rosita loves her sister but she's jealous of her because Teresa's their father's favourite child.
- She has to forget her dreams, however, her sister encourages her to keep exercising. Teresa has no idea about Rosa's medical problem, but it's a tragic situation nevertheless.
- Teresa's classmates are snobbish jerks.
- Juana knows Teresa's darker side, though she doesn't know everything about her.
- Cutberto is cute.
- There was no hot prof in this episode. Qué pena.
I don't blame Aída for telling the truth about Teresa, but the way she did it and the way their friends and classmates reacted were disgusting. Fortunately I'm not poor, but when I meet people like them (born with a silver spoon in the mouth, they know nothing about reality), my inner bitch wants to slap them hard.
I loved when Mariano told Teresa that her beloved classmates, the rich kids are nobodies - they are where they are because their parents are important people.
From Vivi:
Yes, Teresa does have some memorable lines. I think we'll get lots of great put down lines from her, as well as a lot of "As God as my witness, I'll never go hungry again!" moments.
So it seems that at one point Teresa was two-timing Mariano. She and Mariano broke up a year ago after his mom died and he had to drop out of med school and become a taxi driver. But she has been dating Paulo for TWO years. Tsk, tsk Teresa.
I love how Mariano ran up the stairs after Teresa and her godmother when he saw her enter the vecinidad crying. But he didn't push it and try to go in and find out what happened. I kind of pictured him just sitting outside the door sending his moral support and love. I also loved how he took care of business with Paulo, told Teresa what he thought of her rich "friends", and then forced her into his cab and into her seatbelt. He's no pushover, but he's sweet and caring.
Did we find out who broke up with whom? I am assuming it's Teresa who did the breaking up. But she's the one who's always close to kissing him and giving him longing looks, while he tries to remain stoic. We also saw her looking at their photo.
We keep seeing how Teresa hardens herself little by little. Last night she made the decision to use her looks and youth to reach her goal. It's funny how her parents are worried that this professor will take advantage of their baby, when it's the other way around! Watch out Professor! :)
Poor Rosita. The future looks grim for our Tiny (Rythmic) Dancer. Especially from the show promos. I bet Teresa will feel guilty about encouraging little sis to keep dancing. It looks as if medical issues, and the debt poor people fall into because of medical bills, will be a recurring theme. Mariano's mom; the neighbor boy who's been running a fever; and now little Rosita. The topic is actually very relevant to an American audience too, as medical expenses are the number one reason why families fall into debt, and the main reason why so many have pushed for healthcare reform. Perhaps once she becomes a lawyer, Teresa will prosecute some huge malpractice case.
From Aribeth:
So. What we learned last night?
- Mariano was Teresa's first boyfriend and she's still in love with him.
- From the first episode: Mariano's mom died because they couldn't afford her medical treatments.
- Mariano used to study medicine but he had to drop out of school (because of his mother's illness). Teresa left him because she can't be with someone who doesn't have ambitions.
- Rosita loves her sister but she's jealous of her because Teresa's their father's favourite child.
- She has to forget her dreams, however, her sister encourages her to keep exercising. Teresa has no idea about Rosa's medical problem, but it's a tragic situation nevertheless.
- Teresa's classmates are snobbish jerks.
- Juana knows Teresa's darker side, though she doesn't know everything about her.
- Cutberto is cute.
- There was no hot prof in this episode. Qué pena.
I don't blame Aída for telling the truth about Teresa, but the way she did it and the way their friends and classmates reacted were disgusting. Fortunately I'm not poor, but when I meet people like them (born with a silver spoon in the mouth, they know nothing about reality), my inner bitch wants to slap them hard.
I loved when Mariano told Teresa that her beloved classmates, the rich kids are nobodies - they are where they are because their parents are important people.
From Vivi:
Yes, Teresa does have some memorable lines. I think we'll get lots of great put down lines from her, as well as a lot of "As God as my witness, I'll never go hungry again!" moments.
So it seems that at one point Teresa was two-timing Mariano. She and Mariano broke up a year ago after his mom died and he had to drop out of med school and become a taxi driver. But she has been dating Paulo for TWO years. Tsk, tsk Teresa.
I love how Mariano ran up the stairs after Teresa and her godmother when he saw her enter the vecinidad crying. But he didn't push it and try to go in and find out what happened. I kind of pictured him just sitting outside the door sending his moral support and love. I also loved how he took care of business with Paulo, told Teresa what he thought of her rich "friends", and then forced her into his cab and into her seatbelt. He's no pushover, but he's sweet and caring.
Did we find out who broke up with whom? I am assuming it's Teresa who did the breaking up. But she's the one who's always close to kissing him and giving him longing looks, while he tries to remain stoic. We also saw her looking at their photo.
We keep seeing how Teresa hardens herself little by little. Last night she made the decision to use her looks and youth to reach her goal. It's funny how her parents are worried that this professor will take advantage of their baby, when it's the other way around! Watch out Professor! :)
Poor Rosita. The future looks grim for our Tiny (Rythmic) Dancer. Especially from the show promos. I bet Teresa will feel guilty about encouraging little sis to keep dancing. It looks as if medical issues, and the debt poor people fall into because of medical bills, will be a recurring theme. Mariano's mom; the neighbor boy who's been running a fever; and now little Rosita. The topic is actually very relevant to an American audience too, as medical expenses are the number one reason why families fall into debt, and the main reason why so many have pushed for healthcare reform. Perhaps once she becomes a lawyer, Teresa will prosecute some huge malpractice case.
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Good evening. :-) Thanks again to Aribeth for the title and screen caps!
Here are the You Tube links for Episode 2:
Part 1
Part 2
Part 3
Part 4
Here are the You Tube links for Episode 2:
Part 1
Part 2
Part 3
Part 4
Thank you Aribeth for the screencaps and Jeri for the links.
The outing was definitely awful. Poor Teresa, Aída was horrible for arranging it but the rest of their classmates where just as bad for standing there laughing at her.
I loved when Teresa told Aída "Para rogar estás tú". So true.
Jarocha
The outing was definitely awful. Poor Teresa, Aída was horrible for arranging it but the rest of their classmates where just as bad for standing there laughing at her.
I loved when Teresa told Aída "Para rogar estás tú". So true.
Jarocha
Permalink posted by 
: Thursday, March 31, 2011 at 11:31:00 PM EDT
: Thursday, March 31, 2011 at 11:31:00 PM EDT
Gawd, would that really happen? I've never seen anything like that in real life; but when I was in school, bullying was not an issue.
There is actually a page on Facebook for that phrase, under "Teresa" sayings:
Para rogar estás tú on Facebook
There is actually a page on Facebook for that phrase, under "Teresa" sayings:
Para rogar estás tú on Facebook
Thanks for the pics Aribeth and the YouTube links Jeri. Aída was cruel. I felt so bad for Teresa.
Unfortunately, I can relate to bullying because it has happened to me. My classmates would make fun of the way I talk and constantly teased me over the way I dressed. It wasn't pleasant.
Loved a determined and fierce Teresa confronting Aída and saying, "Para rogar estás tú." I was cheering her on.
Unfortunately, I can relate to bullying because it has happened to me. My classmates would make fun of the way I talk and constantly teased me over the way I dressed. It wasn't pleasant.
Loved a determined and fierce Teresa confronting Aída and saying, "Para rogar estás tú." I was cheering her on.
Permalink posted by : Friday, April 1, 2011 at 12:12:00 AM EDT
: Friday, April 1, 2011 at 12:12:00 AM EDT
Jeri: There's a spoiler in one of the phrases. I think (I can't remember if that was told in the summary).
But yeah, Teresa's phrases are famous. They even did a special on them in a couple of shows.
There's a trashy talk show called "Laura" (I think simmilar to what The Maury Show would be in the US) and they had an episode called "¡Soy Mas Mala Que Teresa!" and many girls went and introduced themselves with Teresa phrases and explaining why they where worse than our leading lady. So ridiculous, but yeah people went nuts for awhile thanks to this show.
Jarocha
But yeah, Teresa's phrases are famous. They even did a special on them in a couple of shows.
There's a trashy talk show called "Laura" (I think simmilar to what The Maury Show would be in the US) and they had an episode called "¡Soy Mas Mala Que Teresa!" and many girls went and introduced themselves with Teresa phrases and explaining why they where worse than our leading lady. So ridiculous, but yeah people went nuts for awhile thanks to this show.
Jarocha
Permalink posted by : Friday, April 1, 2011 at 12:29:00 AM EDT
: Friday, April 1, 2011 at 12:29:00 AM EDT
So. What we learned last night?
- Mariano was Teresa's first boyfriend and she's still in love with him.
- From the first episode: Mariano's mom died because they couldn't afford her medical treatments.
- Mariano used to study medicine but he had to drop out of school (because of his mother's illness). Teresa left him because she can't be with someone who doesn't have ambitions.
- Rosita loves her sister but she's jealous of her because Teresa's their father's favourite child.
- She has to forget her dreams, however, her sister encourages her to keep exercising. Teresa has no idea about Rosa's medical problem, but it's a tragic situation nevertheless.
- Teresa's classmates are snobbish jerks.
- Juana knows Teresa's darker side, though she doesn't know everything about her.
- Cutberto is cute.
- There was no hot prof in this episode. Qué pena.
I don't blame Aída for telling the truth about Teresa, but the way she did it and the way their friends and classmates reacted were disgusting. Fortunately I'm not poor, but when I meet people like them (born with a silver spoon in the mouth, they know nothing about reality), my inner bitch wants to slap them hard.
I loved when Mariano told Teresa that her beloved classmates, the rich kids are nobodies - they are where they are because their parents are important people.
- Mariano was Teresa's first boyfriend and she's still in love with him.
- From the first episode: Mariano's mom died because they couldn't afford her medical treatments.
- Mariano used to study medicine but he had to drop out of school (because of his mother's illness). Teresa left him because she can't be with someone who doesn't have ambitions.
- Rosita loves her sister but she's jealous of her because Teresa's their father's favourite child.
- She has to forget her dreams, however, her sister encourages her to keep exercising. Teresa has no idea about Rosa's medical problem, but it's a tragic situation nevertheless.
- Teresa's classmates are snobbish jerks.
- Juana knows Teresa's darker side, though she doesn't know everything about her.
- Cutberto is cute.
- There was no hot prof in this episode. Qué pena.
I don't blame Aída for telling the truth about Teresa, but the way she did it and the way their friends and classmates reacted were disgusting. Fortunately I'm not poor, but when I meet people like them (born with a silver spoon in the mouth, they know nothing about reality), my inner bitch wants to slap them hard.
I loved when Mariano told Teresa that her beloved classmates, the rich kids are nobodies - they are where they are because their parents are important people.
I love those phrases people have picked out. Yes, Teresa does have some memorable lines. I think we'll get lots of great put down lines from her, as well as a lot of "As God as my witness, I'll never go hungry again!" moments.
So it seems that at one point Teresa was two-timing Mariano. She and Mariano broke up a year ago after his mom died and he had to drop out of med school and become a taxi driver. But she has been dating Paulo for TWO years. Tsk, tsk Teresa.
I love how Mariano ran up the stairs after Teresa and her godmother when he saw her enter the vecinidad crying. But he didn't push it and try to go in and find out what happened. I kind of pictured him just sitting outside the door sending his moral support and love. I also loved how he took care of business with Paulo, told Teresa what he thought of her rich "friends", and then forced her into his cab and into her seatbelt. He's no pushover, but he's sweet and caring.
Did we find out who broke up with whom? I am assuming it's Teresa who did the breaking up. But she's the one who's always close to kissing him and giving him longing looks, while he tries to remain stoic. We also saw her looking at their photo.
We keep seeing how Teresa hardens herself little by little. Last night she made the decision to use her looks and youth to reach her goal. It's funny how her parents are worried that this professor will take advantage of their baby, when it's the other way around! Watch out Professor! :)
Poor Rosita. The future looks grim for our Tiny (Rythmic) Dancer. Especially from the show promos. I bet Teresa will feel guilty about encouraging little sis to keep dancing. It looks as if medical issues, and the debt poor people fall into because of medical bills, will be a recurring theme. Mariano's mom; the neighbor boy who's been running a fever; and now little Rosita. The topic is actually very relevant to an American audience too, as medical expenses are the number one reason why families fall into debt, and the main reason why so many have pushed for healthcare reform. Perhaps once she becomes a lawyer, Teresa will prosecute some huge malpractice case.
So it seems that at one point Teresa was two-timing Mariano. She and Mariano broke up a year ago after his mom died and he had to drop out of med school and become a taxi driver. But she has been dating Paulo for TWO years. Tsk, tsk Teresa.
I love how Mariano ran up the stairs after Teresa and her godmother when he saw her enter the vecinidad crying. But he didn't push it and try to go in and find out what happened. I kind of pictured him just sitting outside the door sending his moral support and love. I also loved how he took care of business with Paulo, told Teresa what he thought of her rich "friends", and then forced her into his cab and into her seatbelt. He's no pushover, but he's sweet and caring.
Did we find out who broke up with whom? I am assuming it's Teresa who did the breaking up. But she's the one who's always close to kissing him and giving him longing looks, while he tries to remain stoic. We also saw her looking at their photo.
We keep seeing how Teresa hardens herself little by little. Last night she made the decision to use her looks and youth to reach her goal. It's funny how her parents are worried that this professor will take advantage of their baby, when it's the other way around! Watch out Professor! :)
Poor Rosita. The future looks grim for our Tiny (Rythmic) Dancer. Especially from the show promos. I bet Teresa will feel guilty about encouraging little sis to keep dancing. It looks as if medical issues, and the debt poor people fall into because of medical bills, will be a recurring theme. Mariano's mom; the neighbor boy who's been running a fever; and now little Rosita. The topic is actually very relevant to an American audience too, as medical expenses are the number one reason why families fall into debt, and the main reason why so many have pushed for healthcare reform. Perhaps once she becomes a lawyer, Teresa will prosecute some huge malpractice case.
Jarocha- I am sorry to say that the show Laura has now come to the US as well. Univision began showing it the last couple of months, and I saw a promo for that "bad girl" show. I had a feeling it had to do with Teresa, but it was before Teresa had started here, so I'm not sure if the audience in the States would have gotten the references.
I have a feeling that many of Teresa's classmates reacted so cruelly to her outing because they have always been jealous of her and her success, not just because they are snobs. It's a mixture of the two. The guy she was flirting with (who just died in TDA and was the scuzzy/tatooed guy) was not laughing. He didn't run after her to comfort her either, but he did look a bit horrified at what was happening.
I had to laugh at Aida when Paulo kept rejecting her advances and told her flat out they were pretend novios, not real novios. But she seems to have the support of his snobbish mom, now that she knows Teresa is poor (oh, the horror!).
I had to laugh at Aida when Paulo kept rejecting her advances and told her flat out they were pretend novios, not real novios. But she seems to have the support of his snobbish mom, now that she knows Teresa is poor (oh, the horror!).
Well shoot! I may be the Lone Ranger here but I was fairly disappointed in Teresa’s “pobre” outing last night. A slide program with photos of her parents and then a round of applause from her school friends? WAY too ridiculously staged for me. I’m sure the writers feel that they need to set up a scenario for a very revengeful comeback, but couldn’t they have handled it with a little more skill? That would have been easy to do, whispering word of mouth, an “open mike”, “accidental on purpose" comment .......too bad the writers used a sledgehammer when a mallet would have done!
I, on the other hand, love the way that they are setting up Teresa’s ambition, giving her realistic needs; healthcare, schooling and the welfare of her loved ones....viewerville has something to respect her for. I also like the setup between Mariano and Teresa, realistic as well, they still have a huge physical attraction, but are worlds apart on viewpoint. Hmmmmmm, will it be Aurora or Teresa for our Mariano????
Aribeth, thanks for the quick summary, you too Vivi!
I, on the other hand, love the way that they are setting up Teresa’s ambition, giving her realistic needs; healthcare, schooling and the welfare of her loved ones....viewerville has something to respect her for. I also like the setup between Mariano and Teresa, realistic as well, they still have a huge physical attraction, but are worlds apart on viewpoint. Hmmmmmm, will it be Aurora or Teresa for our Mariano????
Aribeth, thanks for the quick summary, you too Vivi!
Sandy- Aida is too stupid to do anything subtly. I'll leave it to Teresa to get revenge in more subtle and effective ways. I'm sure Aida's sledgehammer approach to humiliating the "poor girl" will continue, and the others will enjoy the show.
Aribeth: Thank you for the intro recap. I just caught up and have to say it was masterfully done. I especially liked the clever references to many of the villanas we love to hate! LOL!
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Jeri: Thanks for posting and all the reference links you so often give us. I've missed a number of you who are here for this telenovela.
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Jarocha: I've got to say that you were correct. There is something intriguing about this story and its heroine. Darn it, too! I swore I'd never watch 3 telenovelas at one time, but honestly, I'm hooked already.
I may be alone, but I admire the spunk and drive in Teresa. It's not based on deranged and unhealthy sociopathic traits, but an honest desire to escape a social milieu she wants no part of. Neither does Teresa hate or despise her family and friends, just the strata of society they're a part of. How many of us wouldn't do exactly the same thing if we had the opportunity and the foresight to strategize similarly? I would say that that's very much an ingrained part of the American psyche: changing social strata and wanting our children to always have the chance to go as far in life as their talent and brains/cunning will take them. Perhaps that's why the "outing" and the attitudes expressed by Aida and Geneveva seemed way over the top.
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Now, as for Aaron Diaz and that ridiculous "look" of his.....I'm sorry--I realize he's from the vecindad, but does he have to look like a barrio version of a wimpy Bowry Boy? I mean, how are we supposed to take him seriously as Teresa's "one true love" when he looks like a walking Brill Cream commercial?
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Jeri: Thanks for posting and all the reference links you so often give us. I've missed a number of you who are here for this telenovela.
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Jarocha: I've got to say that you were correct. There is something intriguing about this story and its heroine. Darn it, too! I swore I'd never watch 3 telenovelas at one time, but honestly, I'm hooked already.
I may be alone, but I admire the spunk and drive in Teresa. It's not based on deranged and unhealthy sociopathic traits, but an honest desire to escape a social milieu she wants no part of. Neither does Teresa hate or despise her family and friends, just the strata of society they're a part of. How many of us wouldn't do exactly the same thing if we had the opportunity and the foresight to strategize similarly? I would say that that's very much an ingrained part of the American psyche: changing social strata and wanting our children to always have the chance to go as far in life as their talent and brains/cunning will take them. Perhaps that's why the "outing" and the attitudes expressed by Aida and Geneveva seemed way over the top.
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Now, as for Aaron Diaz and that ridiculous "look" of his.....I'm sorry--I realize he's from the vecindad, but does he have to look like a barrio version of a wimpy Bowry Boy? I mean, how are we supposed to take him seriously as Teresa's "one true love" when he looks like a walking Brill Cream commercial?
Good morning, noveleros! Aribeth and Vivi, thank you for the very helpful summaries, and I hope you don't mind if I edit in your comments to the front page. I'm sure people will find them useful while caray is still looking for recappers on this.
Pirate Babe, I'm so sorry to hear the situation is all too real; I don't think I'd be up for that in today's world. I can see why people do charter schools or home schooling so much.
Jarocha, thank you for the heads up! I would edit in a spoiler warning on the link, but I don't have comment editing capability.
Aribeth, I so agree -- I wanted to see Herr Professor last night! Luckily, he seems to be on the docket for tonight in the previews.
Sandy, I'm with you; I am buying Teresa's motivation, wrong headed as it may be. I remember people saying about Rubí that they kept watching to see what she would do next; and I think I might be doing that here, too.
Although I also really love seeing so many of the cast again, and I like the other characters as well. If this keeps up, I'm also hooked, Jardinera! So nice to see you here!
Enjoy seeing Alejandro Ávila again (the doctorcito from CS), whom I liked all the way back from La Otra. He's a favorite, and I hope he gets to do stuff -- which he might, since he seems to have a crush on Cynthia's character, who gets a top billing.
Pirate Babe, I'm so sorry to hear the situation is all too real; I don't think I'd be up for that in today's world. I can see why people do charter schools or home schooling so much.
Jarocha, thank you for the heads up! I would edit in a spoiler warning on the link, but I don't have comment editing capability.
Aribeth, I so agree -- I wanted to see Herr Professor last night! Luckily, he seems to be on the docket for tonight in the previews.
Sandy, I'm with you; I am buying Teresa's motivation, wrong headed as it may be. I remember people saying about Rubí that they kept watching to see what she would do next; and I think I might be doing that here, too.
Although I also really love seeing so many of the cast again, and I like the other characters as well. If this keeps up, I'm also hooked, Jardinera! So nice to see you here!
Enjoy seeing Alejandro Ávila again (the doctorcito from CS), whom I liked all the way back from La Otra. He's a favorite, and I hope he gets to do stuff -- which he might, since he seems to have a crush on Cynthia's character, who gets a top billing.
Am I correct that Esperanza doesn't even really have a nursing job? She just dresses up that way, and gets money from Ruben? If so, things are bound to go wrong for her.
I thought it was so funny when Rosa was practicing for "the world championships". Yes, that gold medal is just around the corner with that twirling sash. And then, right before we got to see some tumbling, she fainted. I feel sorry for her, but I did want to see some tumbling.
I think the guy who plays Jonny was in Fuego en la Sangre, as a minor character (Rigo?) who was in love with a beautiful poor girl who of course had a crush on some rich guy.
It seems that Teresa is angrier at Paolo then at Aida, even though Aida is the one who set up that slide show.
I thought it was so funny when Rosa was practicing for "the world championships". Yes, that gold medal is just around the corner with that twirling sash. And then, right before we got to see some tumbling, she fainted. I feel sorry for her, but I did want to see some tumbling.
I think the guy who plays Jonny was in Fuego en la Sangre, as a minor character (Rigo?) who was in love with a beautiful poor girl who of course had a crush on some rich guy.
It seems that Teresa is angrier at Paolo then at Aida, even though Aida is the one who set up that slide show.
Aribeth, thanks for the recap of the premiere. A lot of folks introduced but your recap helped me keep up. Jeri, thanks for the links. Vivi, thanks for the plot points. LVOers, Cheers!
I’m glad Paulo looked uncomfortable with Aida’s cruelty. Maybe it’s a sign that the bad guys won’t be one-dimensional. At first I didn’t have much sympathy for Teresa. She comes from working-class poor, not dirt poor, and gets a lot of emotional support from loving family and friends. Plus, who in their right mind would dump Mariano? He’s a keeper, after a style makeover. But the health care issues and Teresa’s aim for power through brains, and not just beauty, is reeling me in. Looking forward to a Juana- Cutberto romance.
I’m glad Paulo looked uncomfortable with Aida’s cruelty. Maybe it’s a sign that the bad guys won’t be one-dimensional. At first I didn’t have much sympathy for Teresa. She comes from working-class poor, not dirt poor, and gets a lot of emotional support from loving family and friends. Plus, who in their right mind would dump Mariano? He’s a keeper, after a style makeover. But the health care issues and Teresa’s aim for power through brains, and not just beauty, is reeling me in. Looking forward to a Juana- Cutberto romance.
Sincere thanks to our talented trio - Aribeth and Vivi for the summaries and Jeri for posting.
Aribeth, as usual, you cleverly dissected all the backstories and emotions perfectly. Loved your but "when I meet people like them (born with a silver spoon in the mouth, they know nothing about reality), my inner bitch wants to slap them hard". :) But, I am a little confused as to why you said you "don't blame Aída for telling the truth about Teresa". Can you expound on that? Aside from the fact it was done in the cruelest, most malicious way possible, it wasn't Aida's truth to tell.
Vivi, I love the picture you painted, particularly regarding Mariano: "I kind of pictured him just sitting outside the door sending his moral support and love". I did too! I love his character. Completely agree that Teresa's "hardening herself bit by bit" is palpable and very sad.
Pirate Babe, thank you for sharing your story. God Bless. Children who bully simply morph into older, harsher adult versions. Nothing more pathetic.
I have never seen Cynthia Klitbo before but I really like her! She has such an interesting face and I sense she is an excellent actress.
Jeri, I also loved seeing the good doctor from CS. On the first night, one of the parents looked like Colunga's friend from Amor Real. I don't know his name but I don't recall seeing him in anything recently and I liked him.
This is good. I'm in...
Diana
Aribeth, as usual, you cleverly dissected all the backstories and emotions perfectly. Loved your but "when I meet people like them (born with a silver spoon in the mouth, they know nothing about reality), my inner bitch wants to slap them hard". :) But, I am a little confused as to why you said you "don't blame Aída for telling the truth about Teresa". Can you expound on that? Aside from the fact it was done in the cruelest, most malicious way possible, it wasn't Aida's truth to tell.
Vivi, I love the picture you painted, particularly regarding Mariano: "I kind of pictured him just sitting outside the door sending his moral support and love". I did too! I love his character. Completely agree that Teresa's "hardening herself bit by bit" is palpable and very sad.
Pirate Babe, thank you for sharing your story. God Bless. Children who bully simply morph into older, harsher adult versions. Nothing more pathetic.
I have never seen Cynthia Klitbo before but I really like her! She has such an interesting face and I sense she is an excellent actress.
Jeri, I also loved seeing the good doctor from CS. On the first night, one of the parents looked like Colunga's friend from Amor Real. I don't know his name but I don't recall seeing him in anything recently and I liked him.
This is good. I'm in...
Diana
Permalink posted by : Friday, April 1, 2011 at 12:30:00 PM EDT
: Friday, April 1, 2011 at 12:30:00 PM EDT
But, I am a little confused as to why you said you "don't blame Aída for telling the truth about Teresa". Can you expound on that?
Of course. :) Here's what I think about these kind of situations:
Teresa's secret wasn't a simple, private thing. For example, there are shameful or uncomfortable memories that one would like to keep in secret like:
- "Five years ago I hit a man by my car. It was an accident, even the police said it wasn't my fault, he didn't die, but I'm very sorry about it and I'm still angry at myself. I don't want others to find this out."
- "I was raped on a date. Though it's that disgusting bastard's shame, and I'm completely fine sexually, we know how our hypocrite society treats rape victims, so thanks, I'd rather keep it secret."
- "A family member of mine is a cruel murderer/alcoholic/drug addict."
- "I had an accident and I can't have a child anymore."
- Whatever. "I'm into S/M orgies." "Hundred years ago, when I was young and stupid, I made a sex tape with a boyfriend of mine and that douchebag kept it."
But Teresa was fooling people around. We in Viewerville know why she did it and we understand her motives but don't forget the golddigger part. Yes, Aída is jealous at Teresa and her anger blinds her, but all she sees is a hypocrite, a liar who was using the boy she loved and she was playing with his heart. (And even we know that although Teresa liked Paulo, she wasn't that mad about him. Of course others would assume she never loved him.) So, from Aída's point of view Teresa's lying is a dangerous threat.
What could've Aída done in a situation like that?
1. Be a lady and keep her mouth shut.
2. Be a lady but tell Teresa she knows about her lies. She could even warn her: if she dares hurting people she'll tell her secret everyone.
3. Tell about it to one or two friend of hers. Again, it wasn't a painful memory, a completely private secret that should be hidden, but a big fat lie that broke a boy's heart. (Even if the boy was a huge douchebag.)
For example, I also had secrets (still have some :)), and I wouldn't have been happy if someone had told the world the whole truth, but after all, I would've thought I deserved it. I shouldn't have lied in the first place.
So I understand Aída's wish to tell the truth. However. The way she did it was cruel, low and disgusting. She didn't mock Teresa because of her lie (which was T's fault) but because of her poverty (which wasn't her fault). I hated that scene. Vivi, you're right that her classmates were jealous at Teresa. However, many of them were ugly, rude snobs, too - some boys even showed her their money. Like she was a whore on the market.
***
Bullying: I'm sorry about that, Pirate Babe. :( Bullying wasn't such a big deal in my schools, yeah, kids mocked each other, but it wasn't awful, and I never saw people trying to humiliate and destroy others. The teachers protected every student.
Therefore when I see shows like Glee my blood boils. It makes easier to understand those crazy kids' motives who massacred their classmates.
Of course. :) Here's what I think about these kind of situations:
Teresa's secret wasn't a simple, private thing. For example, there are shameful or uncomfortable memories that one would like to keep in secret like:
- "Five years ago I hit a man by my car. It was an accident, even the police said it wasn't my fault, he didn't die, but I'm very sorry about it and I'm still angry at myself. I don't want others to find this out."
- "I was raped on a date. Though it's that disgusting bastard's shame, and I'm completely fine sexually, we know how our hypocrite society treats rape victims, so thanks, I'd rather keep it secret."
- "A family member of mine is a cruel murderer/alcoholic/drug addict."
- "I had an accident and I can't have a child anymore."
- Whatever. "I'm into S/M orgies." "Hundred years ago, when I was young and stupid, I made a sex tape with a boyfriend of mine and that douchebag kept it."
But Teresa was fooling people around. We in Viewerville know why she did it and we understand her motives but don't forget the golddigger part. Yes, Aída is jealous at Teresa and her anger blinds her, but all she sees is a hypocrite, a liar who was using the boy she loved and she was playing with his heart. (And even we know that although Teresa liked Paulo, she wasn't that mad about him. Of course others would assume she never loved him.) So, from Aída's point of view Teresa's lying is a dangerous threat.
What could've Aída done in a situation like that?
1. Be a lady and keep her mouth shut.
2. Be a lady but tell Teresa she knows about her lies. She could even warn her: if she dares hurting people she'll tell her secret everyone.
3. Tell about it to one or two friend of hers. Again, it wasn't a painful memory, a completely private secret that should be hidden, but a big fat lie that broke a boy's heart. (Even if the boy was a huge douchebag.)
For example, I also had secrets (still have some :)), and I wouldn't have been happy if someone had told the world the whole truth, but after all, I would've thought I deserved it. I shouldn't have lied in the first place.
So I understand Aída's wish to tell the truth. However. The way she did it was cruel, low and disgusting. She didn't mock Teresa because of her lie (which was T's fault) but because of her poverty (which wasn't her fault). I hated that scene. Vivi, you're right that her classmates were jealous at Teresa. However, many of them were ugly, rude snobs, too - some boys even showed her their money. Like she was a whore on the market.
***
Bullying: I'm sorry about that, Pirate Babe. :( Bullying wasn't such a big deal in my schools, yeah, kids mocked each other, but it wasn't awful, and I never saw people trying to humiliate and destroy others. The teachers protected every student.
Therefore when I see shows like Glee my blood boils. It makes easier to understand those crazy kids' motives who massacred their classmates.
A telenovela example: in Destilando amor Gaviota created a new personality and started to work at Rodrigo's company. We know why she did it and we were on her side, but from Aarón's point of view it was an ugly betrayal (and the love affair with Rod was a threat), so of course he tried to get rid of her.
Aribeth: thank you so much for the recaps, so elegantly done, you have set the bar very high!
Thank you Jeri for your links and comments.
I am so glad to hear all the Gone with the Wind allusions-I love that book, I thought I was the only one.
Jardinera: THANK YOU! I thought I was the only one who thought Aaron Diaz's hair looked like Gumby's.
ITA with Jeri and Sandy re: the outing. Less is more.
Thank you Jeri for your links and comments.
I am so glad to hear all the Gone with the Wind allusions-I love that book, I thought I was the only one.
Jardinera: THANK YOU! I thought I was the only one who thought Aaron Diaz's hair looked like Gumby's.
ITA with Jeri and Sandy re: the outing. Less is more.
Aribeth: Thank you! My head understands your well presented opinions. My heart...well..
To me, an unforgiveable andinexcusable lie would be anyone taking money on the pretense of an illness they don't have. To tell what I consider a "white" lie of non-existent wealth isn't. It's wrong and yes, hurtful but the lie in and of itslf isn't an egregious one.
Hmmm. So far, I have to admit I'm very sympathetic to Teresa. I'll see if that changes though! :)
Happy Friday all!
Diana
To me, an unforgiveable andinexcusable lie would be anyone taking money on the pretense of an illness they don't have. To tell what I consider a "white" lie of non-existent wealth isn't. It's wrong and yes, hurtful but the lie in and of itslf isn't an egregious one.
Hmmm. So far, I have to admit I'm very sympathetic to Teresa. I'll see if that changes though! :)
Happy Friday all!
Diana
Permalink posted by : Friday, April 1, 2011 at 3:18:00 PM EDT
: Friday, April 1, 2011 at 3:18:00 PM EDT
Hombre de Misterio, yes, IIRC Esperanza does not have a nursing job.
She just tells people she does; and I think Teresa was scolding her with the notion that one day someone's going to show up at her supposed workplace and get a nasty shock that no one has heard of her.
Really glad to see Fabiola again, though; she's one of the things I liked about Tontas. I'd never seen her before that, and she was good.
She just tells people she does; and I think Teresa was scolding her with the notion that one day someone's going to show up at her supposed workplace and get a nasty shock that no one has heard of her.
Really glad to see Fabiola again, though; she's one of the things I liked about Tontas. I'd never seen her before that, and she was good.
Jardinaria, I too noticed the “Brill Cream” look of Mariano, in fact, I spent a lot of time in the episode trying to look under the stubble and hair to see if there was any cuteness hiding underneath. I will say that his seat belt insistence helped me overcome my lack of enthusiasm for his look, what a nice guy.
*****Situations in which an ordinary person would have to lie to survive harsh conditions: captured in Afghanistan, captured in Iraq, captured in Libya, a resident of the Hanoi Hilton.........a poor student in Lord Byron School in Mexico City, Mexico!!! Aribeth, after seeing the student body’s reaction to her “poverty”, I think Teresa had a sixth sense about her classmates, she wanted to survive/graduate, therefore her “lies”.
*****Situations in which an ordinary person would have to lie to survive harsh conditions: captured in Afghanistan, captured in Iraq, captured in Libya, a resident of the Hanoi Hilton.........a poor student in Lord Byron School in Mexico City, Mexico!!! Aribeth, after seeing the student body’s reaction to her “poverty”, I think Teresa had a sixth sense about her classmates, she wanted to survive/graduate, therefore her “lies”.
Excellent analysis, Aribeth. I have one more thing to add to it: Aida and the others were embarrassed that Teresa had fooled them. They are expressing the stereotypical paranoia of the Haves not wanting the Have Nots to invade their milieu and steal their status, success, or whatever else.
Because if someone can climb the social ladder by any means, they can fall off their perches.
I have long suspected that the reason actors were socially marginalized in past centuries is because of their ability to pass for anything they choose to... and the possibility that they might use this ability in other arenas than the entertainment stage.
However...as the daughter of a woman who used her looks to get what she wanted from men, I find that aspect of Teresa's personality disgusting.
Because if someone can climb the social ladder by any means, they can fall off their perches.
I have long suspected that the reason actors were socially marginalized in past centuries is because of their ability to pass for anything they choose to... and the possibility that they might use this ability in other arenas than the entertainment stage.
However...as the daughter of a woman who used her looks to get what she wanted from men, I find that aspect of Teresa's personality disgusting.
Hot Damn! I can see we're going to have one mellovahellova good time with this eclectic group of Viewerville aficianados! We've got opinions from all parts of the spectrum--AND the world. Yep, this is gonna be a fun ride!
In all fairness to brill cream, I believe in was a white cream that was marketed in the late 50's and the early 60's as the answer to how to control your hair without grease. Mariano has enough grease in his hair to cause another oil crisis. He does have a cute little face, though.
Vivi:
The topic is actually very relevant to an American audience too, as medical expenses are the number one reason why families fall into debt, and the main reason why so many have pushed for healthcare reform.
That's a topic I always found very interesting. And difficult. And often heartbreaking.
You know, there are many problems with my country, like corruption, nepotism and depression, but I'm extremely greatful for it's health care system. If I pay a minimal amount of insurance (or a large amount, it depends on one's salary), I'll get medical treatments for free. If I want high-quality service I can look for the best (private) doctor and pay for it, but at least I don't have to fall into debt just to get decent help. I hope this system will never change drastically. Social security/protection is very expensive for a country but it's a wonderful thing. While the puritan work ethic is admirable and the principle of "everyone for himself" is very close to the human nature, many people desperately need social welfare services.
UA:
They are expressing the stereotypical paranoia of the Haves not wanting the Have Nots to invade their milieu and steal their status, success, or whatever else.
Great observation!
The topic is actually very relevant to an American audience too, as medical expenses are the number one reason why families fall into debt, and the main reason why so many have pushed for healthcare reform.
That's a topic I always found very interesting. And difficult. And often heartbreaking.
You know, there are many problems with my country, like corruption, nepotism and depression, but I'm extremely greatful for it's health care system. If I pay a minimal amount of insurance (or a large amount, it depends on one's salary), I'll get medical treatments for free. If I want high-quality service I can look for the best (private) doctor and pay for it, but at least I don't have to fall into debt just to get decent help. I hope this system will never change drastically. Social security/protection is very expensive for a country but it's a wonderful thing. While the puritan work ethic is admirable and the principle of "everyone for himself" is very close to the human nature, many people desperately need social welfare services.
UA:
They are expressing the stereotypical paranoia of the Haves not wanting the Have Nots to invade their milieu and steal their status, success, or whatever else.
Great observation!
I never had to endure any sort of bullying in school but I studied only in public schools, now that I'm attending a private University for my Master's degree I'm disappointingly seeing certain snobbish behaviors from the undergrads (thankfully not from the graduate students).
I imagine a very expensive and exclusive high school would have worse kinds of attitudes.
Mariano's hair is what people here call "pelo naco". Two or three tons of gel that helps it to try to reach the sky. At least it's not spiky.
Jarocha
I imagine a very expensive and exclusive high school would have worse kinds of attitudes.
Mariano's hair is what people here call "pelo naco". Two or three tons of gel that helps it to try to reach the sky. At least it's not spiky.
Jarocha
Permalink posted by : Friday, April 1, 2011 at 5:45:00 PM EDT
: Friday, April 1, 2011 at 5:45:00 PM EDT
Aribeth, Jeri and Vivi, thank you for posting the recaps. I really tried not to get sucked into this TN but the three of you has made it impossible. So now I am tied to Uni for four hours every evening. Maybe all of Uni's double-headers was a way of preparing us for the extra hour every evening.
Ladies, you are awesome.
Rosemary
Ladies, you are awesome.
Rosemary
Permalink posted by : Friday, April 1, 2011 at 6:00:00 PM EDT
: Friday, April 1, 2011 at 6:00:00 PM EDT
Mariano's hairstyle reminds me of this comic:
http://epantiras.deviantart.com/art/Mess-Perfect-048-192764429?q=gallery%3Aepantiras%2F26672451&qo=48
It's a funny fanart based on one of my favourite video games. There's a thing called omnigel that can solve many problems (for example, I don't have to try to hack security doors). And there's a character called Kaidan who has Mariano's greasy hairstyle - maybe he secretly used omnigel. Actually, Díaz could play that character in the movie version. :)
Diana:
I have never seen Cynthia Klitbo before but I really like her! She has such an interesting face and I sense she is an excellent actress.
Oh, I like that woman much. People call her ugly as hell, but I prefer describing her with the word you also used: "interesting". By the way, she played in the original versions of the last three primetime telenovelas:
- Corazón salvaje 2009 - in Yo compro esa mujer she played the original Eloisa (Effie)
- Soy tu duena - Gaby Spanic got her role from El duena (Laura)
- Triunfo del amor - in El privilegio de amar she was Jimena (Tamara) - and her acting (+ her bald head) was legendary
She was married to Francisco Gattorno.
Jardinera, Emarie, Rosemary: thank you. :)
http://epantiras.deviantart.com/art/Mess-Perfect-048-192764429?q=gallery%3Aepantiras%2F26672451&qo=48
It's a funny fanart based on one of my favourite video games. There's a thing called omnigel that can solve many problems (for example, I don't have to try to hack security doors). And there's a character called Kaidan who has Mariano's greasy hairstyle - maybe he secretly used omnigel. Actually, Díaz could play that character in the movie version. :)
Diana:
I have never seen Cynthia Klitbo before but I really like her! She has such an interesting face and I sense she is an excellent actress.
Oh, I like that woman much. People call her ugly as hell, but I prefer describing her with the word you also used: "interesting". By the way, she played in the original versions of the last three primetime telenovelas:
- Corazón salvaje 2009 - in Yo compro esa mujer she played the original Eloisa (Effie)
- Soy tu duena - Gaby Spanic got her role from El duena (Laura)
- Triunfo del amor - in El privilegio de amar she was Jimena (Tamara) - and her acting (+ her bald head) was legendary
She was married to Francisco Gattorno.
Jardinera, Emarie, Rosemary: thank you. :)
My favorite Cynthia Klitbo is "La Casa en la Playa," where she and Sergio Goyri actually starred as the protagonists.
Brilliant cast in LCelP, which crew also included Mónica Miguel. See part 1 of the first episode on You Tube here:
La Casa En La Playa 1.1.3
Brilliant cast in LCelP, which crew also included Mónica Miguel. See part 1 of the first episode on You Tube here:
La Casa En La Playa 1.1.3
Both Teresa and Aida's motives for their actions are understandable. The lying Teresa did was not right. However, this does not justify what Aida did. Aida isn't the one to judge which lies are acceptable and those which are not, much less punish her. After all, isn't Aida a hypocrite herself for doing all the things that she accused Teresa of?
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