Friday, March 25, 2011
Triunfo del Amor #73-74 3/24/11 A triumph of fire safety PSAs
Buenos dias, mis amores. I'm up and at 'em, working on the recap right now. Watch this space for updates!
***This recap is now complete
Part I:
Max walks out of the restaurant, giving his flowers to some chick and getting in his plastic car.
Nathy cries that Juanjo will never love her. She's sure she wants to fight for his love. Maria D is happy to hear it. Maria wants to go out and look for a job, but Nathy, on PJP's orders, forbids her. The landlord comes to the door to harass them about the rent. Nathy begs for a few more days, then Maria adds her voice to the chorus. The guy relents, but if they don't pay up he'll throw them out. Maria uses this as ammo for her argument. She's going to get some sewing supplies. Nathy wants to go too, but she's been put on Juanjo duty. Maria D heads out the door, but this time, it's Max. He asks for the truth…actually, he demands it!
Victoria cries to PJP that he hasn't given back her daughter like he promised. She begs him to tell her who her daughter is, but he can't. She calls him a coward and says he'd rather see her die of pain than tell the truth. She bids him goodbye and hopes God can forgive him, but she can't. She never wants to see him again. Nunca! (never). PJP cries.
Max is upset that she wasn't at work. And that she won't let him support her. Maria D says she can go it alone. "What did Cruz mean about making you tell me the truth? What was he referring to?" Guilty face!
Ximena trips on the way into Gui's house. She was hoping to sneak in while he was out, but…busted! She wants her stuff. Gui's keeping it as snitch insurance. Ximena says she'll come back at some point, but he's like, "Oh, you think I'm stupid enough to keep them here?" Then he spills that it's all in his locker at Televisa. I wouldn't put it past him to rig that locker to blow up if you open it, Xi.
Max asks Maria if she would agree to be his wife. He wants to divorce Ximena right now. He can't take it anymore. He's sick of Ximena and misses Maria and can't stop thinking about her. "But your mom and your wife won't like it!" Eh, he doesn't care. She accepts. Oh, whatever. That won't last. Smoochies.
The first commercial is about the time change…I checked my DVR listings and they're all wacky. 8-10 on Monday, 9-10 on Tuesday, 9-11:30 on Wednesday, 10-11:30 on Thursday. Poor machine is all screwed up.
Part II:
Pipino is waiting for Vic downstairs. He compliments her for walking down the stairs. You should see her chew gum while she does it. Vic was talking to Rox…Pipino freaks. This lends credence to Rox's argument that she just tries to give helpful suggestions and Pipino freaks. "You've even accused her of stealing!" Oh, no he didn't! He did not ACCUSE…he said it outright. Lots of stuff has gone missing, including expensive jewels. "You don't have proof!" Well, he'll find it.
Gui wants some nookie, but Xi considers him an enemy. They fight over who's the Alpha Crazy in this pack. Gui's willing to let her live her life, but he's not going to let her go. She'll never get rid of him.
Pipino blames it all on Vic not coming to the office. They miss her too much and need her too much, but she's not in the mood to go in to work. She brought him in to tell him that his latest designs will be done in knits. Pipino screams it won't work! He's already done the designs! They don't go with knits! What's he supposed to do with them?! "Do you want me to eat them?!" Vic says she doesn't care what he does with the designs, but Europe's doing knit, so they've got to do knit. Pip says she's cruel, possessed by Rox, and he hates her. Max comes in and tells Vic he needs to have a serious talk with her about Maria D. Um, excuse me Max, but Vic just told Pipino that he's got to design knitwear. That far outweighs your self-created personal drama!
JP, sans P, hangs out at his Mom's house. He remembers the farewell party and Vic's ridiculous braids. And the party guest coming on to him. Bernarda thinks he's here to show he loves her more than his "bastard." JP says that "bastard" is her granddaughter and she needs help. Also, the bishop approved his leave of absence. Oh noes! Bernarda's lines. JP says he's no longer blinded by her will. "In the memory of my father, I ask you to relent!" He reminds her that his father questioned his vocation. Bernarda tells him not to ask in Octavio's name. She goes to the top of the stairs and dramatically announces that Octavio wasn't his father. And what does she expect to gain by that?
Part III:
JP asks for an explanation. "Is it true or are you trying to torment me?" She says Octavio married her knowing she was pregnant by someone else. Fausto stops to listen. Bernarda says a married man took advantage of her innocence. She says she punished him with her own hands. JP is confused. "No one mocks Bernarda de Iturbide!"
Pip sneaks out while Max tells Vic to be more respectful of Maria, since she doesn't speak disrespectfully of her. Ximena stops at the door to over hear this conversation. Vic tries to accuse Maria of being shirty when she ran into her at Bernarda's, but Max thinks Vic probably started it. Fine, whatever, what did you want to tell me? Max says he's going to divorce Xi and marry Maria.
JP now understands Bernarda's hate for Vic. "She lived your same story…." Bernarda says it was different. She didn't seduce anyone, but Victoria did. JP has finally realized that she's got a lot of accumulated hate. He tries to say it was no one's fault, but she loses it and kicks him out of the house until he's PJP again. "Who's going to save my soul?" Bernarda cries. OK, listen, lady, either you've done nothing wrong and therefore your soul doesn't need saving OR you have done some bad, bad shit, and if you admit it and repent you can be absolved according to the rules of your belief system. PICK ONE! Seriously. "I've done nothing wrong, so you gotta save me!" makes no sense. Sorry. Beanie back on firmly now.
Vic says Max is nuts if he thinks he's gonna marry Maria after she and Linda colluded to get Linda into Os's bed. If he insists, he'll have to choose between her and Maria. Gee. Tough call.
Xi won't let Max leave her. She goes to talk to Maria, but stops when she sees that Maria really is preggers…as evidenced by Maria walking down the steps with one hand on her belly. Xi won't let the baby be born. She tries to mow Maria down in the street, but chickens out a little and just grazes her. Nathy sees the whole thing. Even though Maria says she's fine and it wasn't on purpose, Nathy insists the car sped up. While the crowd is talking, a police car starts pursuing Xi. She hopes if she couldn't kill Maria, maybe she at least killed the baby. The police car behind her has sirens on and is honking its horn at Xi. She speeds up.
Padilla complains that Fed will never marry Fer now. Well, Fed's over it. Padilla says he's got to marry Fer or never come home. "You care more about the Sandoval's money than your own son." Padilla says heck yeah, and he also needs revenge on Vic. Plus Fed doesn't bring in any money of his own. So either marry Fer or don't come home--period, end of story.
Max accuses Vic of being full of hate and not loving him. She insists she loves him like her own son. "In exchange for what?" He asks if she's asking him to sacrifice his own happiness in payment. She says she just wants to protect him. He is practically screaming at her as he says all she's interested in is having her will done. "You don't know how to love! You're dry!" (seca). Max says he'll never speak to her that way again, because they'll never speak again. If she wants him to choose, then fine, he chooses Maria. She's his woman and he's going to marry her against Vic's will. "If you do, you can forget about me!" Max says he can't. He loves her and sees her as his mother, but obviously she's never loved him or she wouldn't want to see him unhappy at the side of a crazy woman instead of with the woman he loves. I'd call that harsh but fair.
Nathy is furious with Maria for going out after she told her not to. If Maria gets her silly ass run over, how are they going to survive?! Nathy wants to call Max and tell him, but Maria begs her not to. She doesn't know how to keep Max from finding out she's pregnant. Nathy has had it and insists it's time for him to know.
Max says his heart belongs to Maria. He gets a call and says he's on his way over. Maria had an accident. Vic tries to stop him from going, but Max tells her not to talk that way about his future wife or she'll never see him again. Max leaves and Vic turns to see that Fer heard the whole thing. She's looking at her mother accusingly. "What? Are you going to tell me I don't love you? That I'm an officious dictator?" "No. Just that you're going to end up alone, because I do plan to support my brother and if Maria makes him happy, then I'll help him separate himself from Ximena…YOUR Ximena."
Fausto goes back to the kitchen with the coffee. Eva asks him what's up. "I know why Doña Bernarda killed my parents. My father deceived her and left her pregnant. Padre Juan Pablo is my father's son. He's my half-brother." Eva says she has to tell him something--he's not Gonzalo's son. When Rosalia met him, he had already been born. "But he always treated me like a son." Because he loved your mother.
Bernarda looks at the picture of Gonzalo and Rosalia. "You paid dearly for your betrayal. Fire purified the sin you obligated me to commit with your deception. Fire purified my soul. Fire. Fire." Flashbacks. "Fire has to finish off all the sinners. All the dishonest women who give themselves to forbidden men." A light bulb of evil just went off.
JP cries to Padre Jer that his mother's not the person he thought she was. He didn't realize she was so full of rancor and hate. He thinks she's on the verge of losing her soul and he has to help her come back to God.
Bernarda summons Padilla. Flashbacks. Her ire will consume the sinners, blah, blah, blah.
Padre Jer is hurting for JP, but there's no way to save someone who doesn't repent. And since Bernarda thinks she's doing the right thing…. JP doesn't know what to do. Well, calm down, for starters, and pray she comes to her senses. Oh, Padre Jer, so young, so innocent, so naïve…there ain't enough prayer in the world gonna bring that bat to her senses! He asks JP what the bishop had to say. "He approved my vacation request." JP's going to take care of Maria for as long as she needs him. Padre Jer says the doors of God's house are always open to him.
Max comes over to the apartment. Maria says she just wasn't paying attention when she was crossing the street. And no, she doesn't want to go to the doctor. Maria insists nothing can happen to her, because she has Max's love. Smoochies. Well, since they're not going to the doctor, Max tells her he already talked to Vic and told her he's divorcing Xi. And no, she didn't take it well. Maria doesn't want Max to…. He shushes her. All she's guilty of is showing him real love. Smoochies. Max will talk to Ximena today. Good luck with that.
Fabian remembers his serenata to Fer. Xi comes in looking for Max and accuses Fabian of being his "alcahuete" (pimp, go-between, procurer, dude who's helping his friend cover up an affair). And BTW, "no me tutees" (don't address me with the familiar "you") because Fabian is not her equal. Aw, gee, Ximena. Thank you for showing me that yes, I really can hate you even more than I already do. Fabian mockingly addresses her as "Mrs. Sandoval," but Xi misses the sarcasm. Xi wants to pump him for info about Max and Maria, but Fab plays dumb. Then he says he can't divulge a confidence and she'll have to talk to her husband if she wants more details. "Well, I'm pregnant with his baby and I can't let another bitch steal him!" she warns. Whatever. She leaves and Fab thinks about Fer.
Part IV:
Fer goes outside, limping, and Cruz comes to see how she's doing. He was worried about her. He knows he's a brute, but she's stubborn…not that he's blaming her. He thinks it's his fault. Fer says it was just an accident. "See, see! I told you! You're beautiful when you smile!" Fer thanks him for the serenata. She really liked it. Frickin' Fed interrupts potential smoochies. He wants to reconcile, but Fer's having none of it. "You can't break up with me because we love each other and we're going to get married." Cruz takes a look and says it doesn't look like Fed is pregnant, so…. "She wants nothing more to do with you, isn't that right?" Fed tries to insist, but when he lays hands on Fer, Cruz pulls him off. Fed punches Cruz in the mouth, but even though it knocks him down, he's amused. Cruz gets up, provokes Fed some more, punches him a couple of times in the face, and scares Fed off. Every time Cruz comes closer, Fed runs off. Fer is worried about Cruz, but he says it doesn't hurt. Damnit, people! I can handle the smoochies! Give me the smoochies!
Burnie wants Padilla to punish someone tonight. Details to come, one assumes.
Xi complains about Maria to her mom. "Instead of making a scene, use your brains. You can't lose Max now that they're about to take our house! So deal with the situation." Xi decides to deal with it by whining at Vic. She says she hopes Maria doesn't have the baby, after what she just did. "I ran her over. I hope she loses her baby." Rox tells her to be careful. "I'm always careful. Anyone who gets into it with me will pay. Like Linda." "Linda? You mean?" "Yes. I killed her." Rox is surprised. "She knew too much. She found out it's Gui's baby and tried to extort money from me. What else could I do?" Rox is horrified.
Gui looks at the disguise and says it's good to have a crazy chick around. They know how to get things done. "If Xi dares to betray me, she'll pay for her osadia." (impudence).
Burnie is just punishing sinners. If JP wants to suffer for that girl, then let him suffer. Fausto overhears.
Xi whines to Vic. Vic has changed her tune now. Xi has failed to win Max's love, so too bad. "But I'm pregnant! That's proof that I did win his love!" Vic says if Max loved her, he wouldn't want to leave her so badly. "I don't know what you did to get yourself knocked up, but obviously it had nothing to do with love." "I just did what you told me to do." Vic says too bad. She can't make Max stay. "What do you want me to do? Make him sacrifice his happiness? I can't do that." "Oh, so you're going to accept Linda's accomplice into your home?" More whining. Vic says she's got to accept that she lost Os and Xi has to accept that Max doesn't want her. "That doesn't mean I'll abandon you to your fate. I promise you'll never lack for anything. Neither you nor my grandson. You'll live with all the luxuries you're used to, but you have to accept Max's decision." Sounds like a win-win to me.
Max and Maria look at their pictures. I just realized I'm bored with them. They're being all lovey and making each other promises that won't be kept until the very end and I'm so over it. Even the theme song isn't saving their scenes for me.
Xi wants Vic to convince Max not to divorce her until after the baby's born. Vic won't do it. Xi's whining is probably the one thing I'm enjoying less than the Max/Maria mess. Fine, Vic relents. Xi's going to go rest. And eat. For the baby.
Xi goes into the room and curses everyone, including Max. She throws a tantrum.
Max puts Maria into bed in a completely non-sexual way. Bo-ring. The phone rings. It's Vic. He won't come to the house. She knows he's not at work. He hangs up on her.
Xi crazies. Vic's a betrayer. Nobody messes with Xi.
Max fills Maria in on the phone call, but says he's not going anywhere. Little Miss Goody Two Shoes tells him to go talk to his mommy and promises she'll take care of herself. OK, fine, Little Mr No Balls says he'll go, but only because she's telling him to. And I had such hope for him earlier.
Xi starts calming herself down, channeling Ivana. She has to think. She's sure the cockroach will lose her baby. Max has to support the baby. And her mommy and her will live like queens. Because they ARE queens. Not like Vic and Max…those traitors!
JP and Milagros talk to JuanJo. He has to be strong. He's a brave guy, dedicated to helping people and saving lives, so he's gotta save his own life now! For his mother's sake, and everyone else's. JP needs JuanJo's help to save the guys at the church. "Or are you going to prove that you have a cowardly heart instead of a heroic one?"
Fer sits outside while Cruz tends to the flowers. She can't stop thinking that it's her mom's fault that her dad left. Cruz tells her she can't stay mad at her mom. Parents are sacred. And yes, she did seriously like the serenata. Smoochies! Smooooooooochies! Interrupted by a jealous Fabian. I'm sorry Fab, but you need to go back to Nathy, because I need some relationships on this show that I can actually root for. Sad Sack Fab is so stupid he actually has to ask Cruz if he has feelings for Fer. Cruz admits he's in love with her and supposes Fab is as well. "Don't worry about me, though. I'm just a gardener and she's a faraway star who will never take me seriously." Fab tells him to buck up. "I'm just an employee too. We've got even chances. Let's be gentlemen about this. We'll fight it out, but we'll fight clean." Cruz likes that idea. "Whoever loses just has to deal with it." They shake on it. Let the bromance commence!
JP gives Maria a hard time about leaving the house. She says she needs a job. Not just for herself, but for the baby. JP says he'll support her financially. "I don't get it. What are you saying?" "I'm going to be around a lot more to take care of you. I'm not a priest anymore." "Say what? Why?" "For you, daughter. Because you need the help." "You can't do that! Thanks, but I'm not anyone you should sacrifice your vocation for. Why are you doing this? I don't think I deserve it." "I swore I'd protect and care for you and that's what I'll do. Now, no more questions, just accept it. I'll take care of you until you can do it yourself. Now, if you'll excuse me, I have something very important to do." Maria is confused.
Padilla and Alacran scope out Maria's apartment. Padilla reminds him that Burnie doesn't like mistakes, so they have to follow her instructions precisely. Alacran says, fine, they'll do just what the old hag wants. "Hey, that's Doña Bernarda to you!"
But to me, it's the Crazy Old Bitch, and she's busy kissing the bishop's ring. She blasts him for allowing JP to leave his vocation. The bishop says it's just a vacation. Deal with it. He disapproves of her calling Maria a bastard. Bernie denies the blood ties. He tells her sinners need understanding. She says they need punishment. "You're the one who deserves punishment, for keeping your mouth shut. You're the one who's responsible for this mess! You should repent and support your son and granddaughter when they need you!" "I don't support sinners. Let them suffer and pay for their mistakes." "Then sadly, madam, I can see your soul is black." "You're no one to condemn me." "No, of course not, but my obligation is to incite you, obligate you, invite you to rectify your mistake. While you don't do it, while there isn't in your heart the smallest bit of mercy, I forbid you from receiving communion. Not until you have compassion and understanding for your fellows." OH, SNAP! Now that's 2 sacraments she's being denied! "There's no doubt you've also been seduced by evil. Soon, you'll realize that I'm the only one who's in the right." She leaves and he's angry, but I think he fails to recognize the threat.
Max talks to Vic at the house. She asks forgiveness for trying to run his life. Even though she doesn't agree, she accepts his decision to divorce Ximena. She doesn't want him to blame her for his unhappiness later. Max is impressed and thanks her. He knows it's difficult to admit one's mistakes, but she's made great strides. She does have a favor to ask--she wants him to wait until after the baby is born. Max says no. He won't budge on that. He's made up his mind and he's doing it as soon as possible, to marry Maria, the woman he loves. Ok, ok, he's got his balls back. Max leaves. Vic says "Sorry, son, but you're not leaving me any other option."
Oscar is on the phone. Rox overhears him telling someone that he's the man holding the purse strings now. She waits for him to get off the phone, then comes in and lays on the charm. "Why don't you invite me out for a drink sometime?" He tries to get away, but she's like a black hole. She forces a kiss on him and he freezes just long enough for Toni to see. He shoves her off and she saunters out of his office.
Pip sees the green Rox has picked out and goes all chipmunk. Toni comes in and cries on his shoulder, though she has a hard time getting the story out. Time for a three-martini lunch.
He knew it! Rox is bad news. Yes, he says it more colorfully. Toni says it wasn't all Rox's fault. Oscar let her kiss him. But hey, they're not officially in a relationship, so it's no big. She feels ridiculous. She'd gotten her hopes up over something that wasn't really serious. It's better if she forgets him, and if she ends up alone…Pip will still be there, right? Gui is in the restaurant and hears the conversation. He realizes he can use Toni to get to Vic. He calls the waiter over and sends champagne to their table. Toni and Pip are surprised.
OK, so the new time starts on Wednesday?
Part V:
JuanJo is back at the firehouse. The guys cheer.
Ave Maria plays as Milagros thanks the Virgen for getting JuanJo out of his funk.
Vic goes to Maria's. Nathy is not going to put up with Vic insulting her again. Maria gets her to agree to let them talk. I kind of like Nathy's jacket, but it's a disaster with the rest of that outfit. Vic won't come in. She tells Maria she won. "I hope that makes you feel good about yourself. You got what you wanted--Max." Maria tells her it was never a war, they're in love. "I'm not interested in your romantic drivel. All I care about is Max. I already lost Os because of you. I'm not going to lose my son too." "Your husband leaving you is not my fault, that was Linda. And you." Vic doesn't want to talk about the past. "Max wants to leave everything to be with you. Whatever his reasons, I've come to humble myself before you. Something I thought I'd never do for someone like you." "Please quit insulting me and just say what you have to say."
Part VI:
JP finds Domingo in an alley. Another druggie jokes about Domingo calling him "Padre." Domingo explains that JP is a priest and he used to be his sacristan. JP takes him by the arm and tries to drag him away. Another druggie objects and drags him back. Yet another druggie suggests that if he wants Domingo, he should fight for him. Domingo says they shouldn't hurt the Padre, he's a nice guy. JP says he doesn't solve problems with violence. Domingo gets shoved into the wall and hits his head. Druggie #3 pulls out a switchblade.
Vic asks Maria to convince Max to stay with Xi until the baby is born. Maria asks her to sit down. "What you want is for me to delay my happiness?" "No, I'm asking you for some humanity. A little time. If you're ever a mother, you'll understand my position. I want him to stay with Xi until she gives birth, and then he can do what he wants." "Ma'am, can you please explain why you've dedicated your life to destroying mine?" Vic admits she doesn't know. Maria says if Vic had looked at her differently, a lot of hurt could have been avoided. She asks if maybe there's time to do things differently, but Vic says she'll never accept Maria, even if Maria is Max's wife.
JP fights the druggies. He offers to show them self-defense, but if they want to keep wasting their lives, that's their business. He tries to take Domingo again, but Domingo says he can't go.
Padilla and Alacran pour gasoline around the building. Burnie pulls up to watch the action.
Domingo is too ashamed. He failed JP and his friends. He stole. He betrayed JP's confidence. He asks JP to forget about him.
Vic needs an answer. "Can you sacrifice a little time for Max's child?" Maria says she can sacrifice anything, unlike Vic, if it means seeing Max happy. Vic tells her not to let Max know that she was there. "Of course. You want to let someone else take the fall for you, like always. Don't worry. Things will be done the way you want. I'm a woman of my word." Vic heads out of the apartment. Nathy comes in to ask what happened.
Burnie is pissed that Vic is there. "Does she know that Maria Desamparada is her daughter? If she does, she'll lose her again anyway."
Padilla and Alacran hide while Vic goes to her SUV and drives away. Burnie sees them come around and splash the sidewalk and the front porch. In plain sight of the street. Where no one is around. Conveniently.
Milagros brought dinner over again. She tells Maria and Nathy that JuanJo went back to work.
Padilla tells Burnie that everything is ready and they're sure "the young lady" is insude. Burnie gets out of the car and holds out her hand for the box of matches. She strikes a match and stares for a moment, flashing back to previous fires. "Juan Pablo, you don't have to worry anymore. You won't quit the priesthood. For you…." She throws the match and the fire spreads across the street to the building.
Part VII:
Fire.
The guys give Napo a hard time for saying he loves JuanJo. Amid the homophobia, he has to clarify that he loves him like a son. JuanJo appears and asks Napo when he's gonna marry Milagros. More cheering, since Napo didn't know JuanJo was back.
Milagros feels a disturbance in the force…oh, no, she sees smoke. The hallway outside her apartment is burning. She calls JuanJo.
Napo wants to throw a party, but with no alcohol. JuanJo picks up the phone and Milagros tells him the 'hood is burning. She can't get out and the hallway is in flames. The guys head out.
Eva can't understand why he didn't help Burnie with the burning. He says he couldn't help her do the same thing she did to his parents. She reminds him that it's their plan to gain her confidence, so they can finish her off when she least expects it.
Burnie and the gang are in the car, watching the fire. She's letting Alacran smoke in her car? I don't believe it. She decides it's time to leave, so they drive away.
Milagros is using wet towels to cover the crack under the door so smoke can't get in.
JuanJo is anxious about his mom as they drive over in the fire engine. Milagros starts praying.
The cops arrive and help a few people get away from the building.
Nathy looks out the window and wakes up Maria to tell her they've got to get out. But the hallway is in flames.
The cops try to calm everyone down. JP tries to get past them.
Nathy shoves Maria back into the apartment. She grabs the tablecloth and uses it to cover the crack under the door. Maria throws water on it and on the door and they go into the bedroom to repeat the treatment with a blanket and another convenient pitcher of water. They lie down on the floor and cover their mouths and noses with wet cloths.
JuanJo and crew roll up.
Milagros passes out from smoke inhalation.
The girls are coughing. Maria passes out.
Sweet William Levy in a Kayak!
I'm not worried. JuanJo will save them all and Maria won't be able to get out of going to the hospital, where a doctor will conveniently mention "the baby" in front of Max.
Official previews: Burnie says she had to do it; Vic senses a disturbance in the force; Xi tries to convince Max not to leave her by getting whiny and violent; Xi swears vengeance and attempts suicide again, giving Vic another opportunity into guilting him; Max tries to convince the firefighters to let him in so he can save his woman.
***This recap is now complete
Part I:
Max walks out of the restaurant, giving his flowers to some chick and getting in his plastic car.
Nathy cries that Juanjo will never love her. She's sure she wants to fight for his love. Maria D is happy to hear it. Maria wants to go out and look for a job, but Nathy, on PJP's orders, forbids her. The landlord comes to the door to harass them about the rent. Nathy begs for a few more days, then Maria adds her voice to the chorus. The guy relents, but if they don't pay up he'll throw them out. Maria uses this as ammo for her argument. She's going to get some sewing supplies. Nathy wants to go too, but she's been put on Juanjo duty. Maria D heads out the door, but this time, it's Max. He asks for the truth…actually, he demands it!
Victoria cries to PJP that he hasn't given back her daughter like he promised. She begs him to tell her who her daughter is, but he can't. She calls him a coward and says he'd rather see her die of pain than tell the truth. She bids him goodbye and hopes God can forgive him, but she can't. She never wants to see him again. Nunca! (never). PJP cries.
Max is upset that she wasn't at work. And that she won't let him support her. Maria D says she can go it alone. "What did Cruz mean about making you tell me the truth? What was he referring to?" Guilty face!
Ximena trips on the way into Gui's house. She was hoping to sneak in while he was out, but…busted! She wants her stuff. Gui's keeping it as snitch insurance. Ximena says she'll come back at some point, but he's like, "Oh, you think I'm stupid enough to keep them here?" Then he spills that it's all in his locker at Televisa. I wouldn't put it past him to rig that locker to blow up if you open it, Xi.
Max asks Maria if she would agree to be his wife. He wants to divorce Ximena right now. He can't take it anymore. He's sick of Ximena and misses Maria and can't stop thinking about her. "But your mom and your wife won't like it!" Eh, he doesn't care. She accepts. Oh, whatever. That won't last. Smoochies.
The first commercial is about the time change…I checked my DVR listings and they're all wacky. 8-10 on Monday, 9-10 on Tuesday, 9-11:30 on Wednesday, 10-11:30 on Thursday. Poor machine is all screwed up.
Part II:
Pipino is waiting for Vic downstairs. He compliments her for walking down the stairs. You should see her chew gum while she does it. Vic was talking to Rox…Pipino freaks. This lends credence to Rox's argument that she just tries to give helpful suggestions and Pipino freaks. "You've even accused her of stealing!" Oh, no he didn't! He did not ACCUSE…he said it outright. Lots of stuff has gone missing, including expensive jewels. "You don't have proof!" Well, he'll find it.
Gui wants some nookie, but Xi considers him an enemy. They fight over who's the Alpha Crazy in this pack. Gui's willing to let her live her life, but he's not going to let her go. She'll never get rid of him.
Pipino blames it all on Vic not coming to the office. They miss her too much and need her too much, but she's not in the mood to go in to work. She brought him in to tell him that his latest designs will be done in knits. Pipino screams it won't work! He's already done the designs! They don't go with knits! What's he supposed to do with them?! "Do you want me to eat them?!" Vic says she doesn't care what he does with the designs, but Europe's doing knit, so they've got to do knit. Pip says she's cruel, possessed by Rox, and he hates her. Max comes in and tells Vic he needs to have a serious talk with her about Maria D. Um, excuse me Max, but Vic just told Pipino that he's got to design knitwear. That far outweighs your self-created personal drama!
JP, sans P, hangs out at his Mom's house. He remembers the farewell party and Vic's ridiculous braids. And the party guest coming on to him. Bernarda thinks he's here to show he loves her more than his "bastard." JP says that "bastard" is her granddaughter and she needs help. Also, the bishop approved his leave of absence. Oh noes! Bernarda's lines. JP says he's no longer blinded by her will. "In the memory of my father, I ask you to relent!" He reminds her that his father questioned his vocation. Bernarda tells him not to ask in Octavio's name. She goes to the top of the stairs and dramatically announces that Octavio wasn't his father. And what does she expect to gain by that?
Part III:
JP asks for an explanation. "Is it true or are you trying to torment me?" She says Octavio married her knowing she was pregnant by someone else. Fausto stops to listen. Bernarda says a married man took advantage of her innocence. She says she punished him with her own hands. JP is confused. "No one mocks Bernarda de Iturbide!"
Pip sneaks out while Max tells Vic to be more respectful of Maria, since she doesn't speak disrespectfully of her. Ximena stops at the door to over hear this conversation. Vic tries to accuse Maria of being shirty when she ran into her at Bernarda's, but Max thinks Vic probably started it. Fine, whatever, what did you want to tell me? Max says he's going to divorce Xi and marry Maria.
JP now understands Bernarda's hate for Vic. "She lived your same story…." Bernarda says it was different. She didn't seduce anyone, but Victoria did. JP has finally realized that she's got a lot of accumulated hate. He tries to say it was no one's fault, but she loses it and kicks him out of the house until he's PJP again. "Who's going to save my soul?" Bernarda cries. OK, listen, lady, either you've done nothing wrong and therefore your soul doesn't need saving OR you have done some bad, bad shit, and if you admit it and repent you can be absolved according to the rules of your belief system. PICK ONE! Seriously. "I've done nothing wrong, so you gotta save me!" makes no sense. Sorry. Beanie back on firmly now.
Vic says Max is nuts if he thinks he's gonna marry Maria after she and Linda colluded to get Linda into Os's bed. If he insists, he'll have to choose between her and Maria. Gee. Tough call.
Xi won't let Max leave her. She goes to talk to Maria, but stops when she sees that Maria really is preggers…as evidenced by Maria walking down the steps with one hand on her belly. Xi won't let the baby be born. She tries to mow Maria down in the street, but chickens out a little and just grazes her. Nathy sees the whole thing. Even though Maria says she's fine and it wasn't on purpose, Nathy insists the car sped up. While the crowd is talking, a police car starts pursuing Xi. She hopes if she couldn't kill Maria, maybe she at least killed the baby. The police car behind her has sirens on and is honking its horn at Xi. She speeds up.
Padilla complains that Fed will never marry Fer now. Well, Fed's over it. Padilla says he's got to marry Fer or never come home. "You care more about the Sandoval's money than your own son." Padilla says heck yeah, and he also needs revenge on Vic. Plus Fed doesn't bring in any money of his own. So either marry Fer or don't come home--period, end of story.
Max accuses Vic of being full of hate and not loving him. She insists she loves him like her own son. "In exchange for what?" He asks if she's asking him to sacrifice his own happiness in payment. She says she just wants to protect him. He is practically screaming at her as he says all she's interested in is having her will done. "You don't know how to love! You're dry!" (seca). Max says he'll never speak to her that way again, because they'll never speak again. If she wants him to choose, then fine, he chooses Maria. She's his woman and he's going to marry her against Vic's will. "If you do, you can forget about me!" Max says he can't. He loves her and sees her as his mother, but obviously she's never loved him or she wouldn't want to see him unhappy at the side of a crazy woman instead of with the woman he loves. I'd call that harsh but fair.
Nathy is furious with Maria for going out after she told her not to. If Maria gets her silly ass run over, how are they going to survive?! Nathy wants to call Max and tell him, but Maria begs her not to. She doesn't know how to keep Max from finding out she's pregnant. Nathy has had it and insists it's time for him to know.
Max says his heart belongs to Maria. He gets a call and says he's on his way over. Maria had an accident. Vic tries to stop him from going, but Max tells her not to talk that way about his future wife or she'll never see him again. Max leaves and Vic turns to see that Fer heard the whole thing. She's looking at her mother accusingly. "What? Are you going to tell me I don't love you? That I'm an officious dictator?" "No. Just that you're going to end up alone, because I do plan to support my brother and if Maria makes him happy, then I'll help him separate himself from Ximena…YOUR Ximena."
Fausto goes back to the kitchen with the coffee. Eva asks him what's up. "I know why Doña Bernarda killed my parents. My father deceived her and left her pregnant. Padre Juan Pablo is my father's son. He's my half-brother." Eva says she has to tell him something--he's not Gonzalo's son. When Rosalia met him, he had already been born. "But he always treated me like a son." Because he loved your mother.
Bernarda looks at the picture of Gonzalo and Rosalia. "You paid dearly for your betrayal. Fire purified the sin you obligated me to commit with your deception. Fire purified my soul. Fire. Fire." Flashbacks. "Fire has to finish off all the sinners. All the dishonest women who give themselves to forbidden men." A light bulb of evil just went off.
JP cries to Padre Jer that his mother's not the person he thought she was. He didn't realize she was so full of rancor and hate. He thinks she's on the verge of losing her soul and he has to help her come back to God.
Bernarda summons Padilla. Flashbacks. Her ire will consume the sinners, blah, blah, blah.
Padre Jer is hurting for JP, but there's no way to save someone who doesn't repent. And since Bernarda thinks she's doing the right thing…. JP doesn't know what to do. Well, calm down, for starters, and pray she comes to her senses. Oh, Padre Jer, so young, so innocent, so naïve…there ain't enough prayer in the world gonna bring that bat to her senses! He asks JP what the bishop had to say. "He approved my vacation request." JP's going to take care of Maria for as long as she needs him. Padre Jer says the doors of God's house are always open to him.
Max comes over to the apartment. Maria says she just wasn't paying attention when she was crossing the street. And no, she doesn't want to go to the doctor. Maria insists nothing can happen to her, because she has Max's love. Smoochies. Well, since they're not going to the doctor, Max tells her he already talked to Vic and told her he's divorcing Xi. And no, she didn't take it well. Maria doesn't want Max to…. He shushes her. All she's guilty of is showing him real love. Smoochies. Max will talk to Ximena today. Good luck with that.
Fabian remembers his serenata to Fer. Xi comes in looking for Max and accuses Fabian of being his "alcahuete" (pimp, go-between, procurer, dude who's helping his friend cover up an affair). And BTW, "no me tutees" (don't address me with the familiar "you") because Fabian is not her equal. Aw, gee, Ximena. Thank you for showing me that yes, I really can hate you even more than I already do. Fabian mockingly addresses her as "Mrs. Sandoval," but Xi misses the sarcasm. Xi wants to pump him for info about Max and Maria, but Fab plays dumb. Then he says he can't divulge a confidence and she'll have to talk to her husband if she wants more details. "Well, I'm pregnant with his baby and I can't let another bitch steal him!" she warns. Whatever. She leaves and Fab thinks about Fer.
Part IV:
Fer goes outside, limping, and Cruz comes to see how she's doing. He was worried about her. He knows he's a brute, but she's stubborn…not that he's blaming her. He thinks it's his fault. Fer says it was just an accident. "See, see! I told you! You're beautiful when you smile!" Fer thanks him for the serenata. She really liked it. Frickin' Fed interrupts potential smoochies. He wants to reconcile, but Fer's having none of it. "You can't break up with me because we love each other and we're going to get married." Cruz takes a look and says it doesn't look like Fed is pregnant, so…. "She wants nothing more to do with you, isn't that right?" Fed tries to insist, but when he lays hands on Fer, Cruz pulls him off. Fed punches Cruz in the mouth, but even though it knocks him down, he's amused. Cruz gets up, provokes Fed some more, punches him a couple of times in the face, and scares Fed off. Every time Cruz comes closer, Fed runs off. Fer is worried about Cruz, but he says it doesn't hurt. Damnit, people! I can handle the smoochies! Give me the smoochies!
Burnie wants Padilla to punish someone tonight. Details to come, one assumes.
Xi complains about Maria to her mom. "Instead of making a scene, use your brains. You can't lose Max now that they're about to take our house! So deal with the situation." Xi decides to deal with it by whining at Vic. She says she hopes Maria doesn't have the baby, after what she just did. "I ran her over. I hope she loses her baby." Rox tells her to be careful. "I'm always careful. Anyone who gets into it with me will pay. Like Linda." "Linda? You mean?" "Yes. I killed her." Rox is surprised. "She knew too much. She found out it's Gui's baby and tried to extort money from me. What else could I do?" Rox is horrified.
Gui looks at the disguise and says it's good to have a crazy chick around. They know how to get things done. "If Xi dares to betray me, she'll pay for her osadia." (impudence).
Burnie is just punishing sinners. If JP wants to suffer for that girl, then let him suffer. Fausto overhears.
Xi whines to Vic. Vic has changed her tune now. Xi has failed to win Max's love, so too bad. "But I'm pregnant! That's proof that I did win his love!" Vic says if Max loved her, he wouldn't want to leave her so badly. "I don't know what you did to get yourself knocked up, but obviously it had nothing to do with love." "I just did what you told me to do." Vic says too bad. She can't make Max stay. "What do you want me to do? Make him sacrifice his happiness? I can't do that." "Oh, so you're going to accept Linda's accomplice into your home?" More whining. Vic says she's got to accept that she lost Os and Xi has to accept that Max doesn't want her. "That doesn't mean I'll abandon you to your fate. I promise you'll never lack for anything. Neither you nor my grandson. You'll live with all the luxuries you're used to, but you have to accept Max's decision." Sounds like a win-win to me.
Max and Maria look at their pictures. I just realized I'm bored with them. They're being all lovey and making each other promises that won't be kept until the very end and I'm so over it. Even the theme song isn't saving their scenes for me.
Xi wants Vic to convince Max not to divorce her until after the baby's born. Vic won't do it. Xi's whining is probably the one thing I'm enjoying less than the Max/Maria mess. Fine, Vic relents. Xi's going to go rest. And eat. For the baby.
Xi goes into the room and curses everyone, including Max. She throws a tantrum.
Max puts Maria into bed in a completely non-sexual way. Bo-ring. The phone rings. It's Vic. He won't come to the house. She knows he's not at work. He hangs up on her.
Xi crazies. Vic's a betrayer. Nobody messes with Xi.
Max fills Maria in on the phone call, but says he's not going anywhere. Little Miss Goody Two Shoes tells him to go talk to his mommy and promises she'll take care of herself. OK, fine, Little Mr No Balls says he'll go, but only because she's telling him to. And I had such hope for him earlier.
Xi starts calming herself down, channeling Ivana. She has to think. She's sure the cockroach will lose her baby. Max has to support the baby. And her mommy and her will live like queens. Because they ARE queens. Not like Vic and Max…those traitors!
JP and Milagros talk to JuanJo. He has to be strong. He's a brave guy, dedicated to helping people and saving lives, so he's gotta save his own life now! For his mother's sake, and everyone else's. JP needs JuanJo's help to save the guys at the church. "Or are you going to prove that you have a cowardly heart instead of a heroic one?"
Fer sits outside while Cruz tends to the flowers. She can't stop thinking that it's her mom's fault that her dad left. Cruz tells her she can't stay mad at her mom. Parents are sacred. And yes, she did seriously like the serenata. Smoochies! Smooooooooochies! Interrupted by a jealous Fabian. I'm sorry Fab, but you need to go back to Nathy, because I need some relationships on this show that I can actually root for. Sad Sack Fab is so stupid he actually has to ask Cruz if he has feelings for Fer. Cruz admits he's in love with her and supposes Fab is as well. "Don't worry about me, though. I'm just a gardener and she's a faraway star who will never take me seriously." Fab tells him to buck up. "I'm just an employee too. We've got even chances. Let's be gentlemen about this. We'll fight it out, but we'll fight clean." Cruz likes that idea. "Whoever loses just has to deal with it." They shake on it. Let the bromance commence!
JP gives Maria a hard time about leaving the house. She says she needs a job. Not just for herself, but for the baby. JP says he'll support her financially. "I don't get it. What are you saying?" "I'm going to be around a lot more to take care of you. I'm not a priest anymore." "Say what? Why?" "For you, daughter. Because you need the help." "You can't do that! Thanks, but I'm not anyone you should sacrifice your vocation for. Why are you doing this? I don't think I deserve it." "I swore I'd protect and care for you and that's what I'll do. Now, no more questions, just accept it. I'll take care of you until you can do it yourself. Now, if you'll excuse me, I have something very important to do." Maria is confused.
Padilla and Alacran scope out Maria's apartment. Padilla reminds him that Burnie doesn't like mistakes, so they have to follow her instructions precisely. Alacran says, fine, they'll do just what the old hag wants. "Hey, that's Doña Bernarda to you!"
But to me, it's the Crazy Old Bitch, and she's busy kissing the bishop's ring. She blasts him for allowing JP to leave his vocation. The bishop says it's just a vacation. Deal with it. He disapproves of her calling Maria a bastard. Bernie denies the blood ties. He tells her sinners need understanding. She says they need punishment. "You're the one who deserves punishment, for keeping your mouth shut. You're the one who's responsible for this mess! You should repent and support your son and granddaughter when they need you!" "I don't support sinners. Let them suffer and pay for their mistakes." "Then sadly, madam, I can see your soul is black." "You're no one to condemn me." "No, of course not, but my obligation is to incite you, obligate you, invite you to rectify your mistake. While you don't do it, while there isn't in your heart the smallest bit of mercy, I forbid you from receiving communion. Not until you have compassion and understanding for your fellows." OH, SNAP! Now that's 2 sacraments she's being denied! "There's no doubt you've also been seduced by evil. Soon, you'll realize that I'm the only one who's in the right." She leaves and he's angry, but I think he fails to recognize the threat.
Max talks to Vic at the house. She asks forgiveness for trying to run his life. Even though she doesn't agree, she accepts his decision to divorce Ximena. She doesn't want him to blame her for his unhappiness later. Max is impressed and thanks her. He knows it's difficult to admit one's mistakes, but she's made great strides. She does have a favor to ask--she wants him to wait until after the baby is born. Max says no. He won't budge on that. He's made up his mind and he's doing it as soon as possible, to marry Maria, the woman he loves. Ok, ok, he's got his balls back. Max leaves. Vic says "Sorry, son, but you're not leaving me any other option."
Oscar is on the phone. Rox overhears him telling someone that he's the man holding the purse strings now. She waits for him to get off the phone, then comes in and lays on the charm. "Why don't you invite me out for a drink sometime?" He tries to get away, but she's like a black hole. She forces a kiss on him and he freezes just long enough for Toni to see. He shoves her off and she saunters out of his office.
Pip sees the green Rox has picked out and goes all chipmunk. Toni comes in and cries on his shoulder, though she has a hard time getting the story out. Time for a three-martini lunch.
He knew it! Rox is bad news. Yes, he says it more colorfully. Toni says it wasn't all Rox's fault. Oscar let her kiss him. But hey, they're not officially in a relationship, so it's no big. She feels ridiculous. She'd gotten her hopes up over something that wasn't really serious. It's better if she forgets him, and if she ends up alone…Pip will still be there, right? Gui is in the restaurant and hears the conversation. He realizes he can use Toni to get to Vic. He calls the waiter over and sends champagne to their table. Toni and Pip are surprised.
OK, so the new time starts on Wednesday?
Part V:
JuanJo is back at the firehouse. The guys cheer.
Ave Maria plays as Milagros thanks the Virgen for getting JuanJo out of his funk.
Vic goes to Maria's. Nathy is not going to put up with Vic insulting her again. Maria gets her to agree to let them talk. I kind of like Nathy's jacket, but it's a disaster with the rest of that outfit. Vic won't come in. She tells Maria she won. "I hope that makes you feel good about yourself. You got what you wanted--Max." Maria tells her it was never a war, they're in love. "I'm not interested in your romantic drivel. All I care about is Max. I already lost Os because of you. I'm not going to lose my son too." "Your husband leaving you is not my fault, that was Linda. And you." Vic doesn't want to talk about the past. "Max wants to leave everything to be with you. Whatever his reasons, I've come to humble myself before you. Something I thought I'd never do for someone like you." "Please quit insulting me and just say what you have to say."
Part VI:
JP finds Domingo in an alley. Another druggie jokes about Domingo calling him "Padre." Domingo explains that JP is a priest and he used to be his sacristan. JP takes him by the arm and tries to drag him away. Another druggie objects and drags him back. Yet another druggie suggests that if he wants Domingo, he should fight for him. Domingo says they shouldn't hurt the Padre, he's a nice guy. JP says he doesn't solve problems with violence. Domingo gets shoved into the wall and hits his head. Druggie #3 pulls out a switchblade.
Vic asks Maria to convince Max to stay with Xi until the baby is born. Maria asks her to sit down. "What you want is for me to delay my happiness?" "No, I'm asking you for some humanity. A little time. If you're ever a mother, you'll understand my position. I want him to stay with Xi until she gives birth, and then he can do what he wants." "Ma'am, can you please explain why you've dedicated your life to destroying mine?" Vic admits she doesn't know. Maria says if Vic had looked at her differently, a lot of hurt could have been avoided. She asks if maybe there's time to do things differently, but Vic says she'll never accept Maria, even if Maria is Max's wife.
JP fights the druggies. He offers to show them self-defense, but if they want to keep wasting their lives, that's their business. He tries to take Domingo again, but Domingo says he can't go.
Padilla and Alacran pour gasoline around the building. Burnie pulls up to watch the action.
Domingo is too ashamed. He failed JP and his friends. He stole. He betrayed JP's confidence. He asks JP to forget about him.
Vic needs an answer. "Can you sacrifice a little time for Max's child?" Maria says she can sacrifice anything, unlike Vic, if it means seeing Max happy. Vic tells her not to let Max know that she was there. "Of course. You want to let someone else take the fall for you, like always. Don't worry. Things will be done the way you want. I'm a woman of my word." Vic heads out of the apartment. Nathy comes in to ask what happened.
Burnie is pissed that Vic is there. "Does she know that Maria Desamparada is her daughter? If she does, she'll lose her again anyway."
Padilla and Alacran hide while Vic goes to her SUV and drives away. Burnie sees them come around and splash the sidewalk and the front porch. In plain sight of the street. Where no one is around. Conveniently.
Milagros brought dinner over again. She tells Maria and Nathy that JuanJo went back to work.
Padilla tells Burnie that everything is ready and they're sure "the young lady" is insude. Burnie gets out of the car and holds out her hand for the box of matches. She strikes a match and stares for a moment, flashing back to previous fires. "Juan Pablo, you don't have to worry anymore. You won't quit the priesthood. For you…." She throws the match and the fire spreads across the street to the building.
Part VII:
Fire.
The guys give Napo a hard time for saying he loves JuanJo. Amid the homophobia, he has to clarify that he loves him like a son. JuanJo appears and asks Napo when he's gonna marry Milagros. More cheering, since Napo didn't know JuanJo was back.
Milagros feels a disturbance in the force…oh, no, she sees smoke. The hallway outside her apartment is burning. She calls JuanJo.
Napo wants to throw a party, but with no alcohol. JuanJo picks up the phone and Milagros tells him the 'hood is burning. She can't get out and the hallway is in flames. The guys head out.
Eva can't understand why he didn't help Burnie with the burning. He says he couldn't help her do the same thing she did to his parents. She reminds him that it's their plan to gain her confidence, so they can finish her off when she least expects it.
Burnie and the gang are in the car, watching the fire. She's letting Alacran smoke in her car? I don't believe it. She decides it's time to leave, so they drive away.
Milagros is using wet towels to cover the crack under the door so smoke can't get in.
JuanJo is anxious about his mom as they drive over in the fire engine. Milagros starts praying.
The cops arrive and help a few people get away from the building.
Nathy looks out the window and wakes up Maria to tell her they've got to get out. But the hallway is in flames.
The cops try to calm everyone down. JP tries to get past them.
Nathy shoves Maria back into the apartment. She grabs the tablecloth and uses it to cover the crack under the door. Maria throws water on it and on the door and they go into the bedroom to repeat the treatment with a blanket and another convenient pitcher of water. They lie down on the floor and cover their mouths and noses with wet cloths.
JuanJo and crew roll up.
Milagros passes out from smoke inhalation.
The girls are coughing. Maria passes out.
Sweet William Levy in a Kayak!
I'm not worried. JuanJo will save them all and Maria won't be able to get out of going to the hospital, where a doctor will conveniently mention "the baby" in front of Max.
Official previews: Burnie says she had to do it; Vic senses a disturbance in the force; Xi tries to convince Max not to leave her by getting whiny and violent; Xi swears vengeance and attempts suicide again, giving Vic another opportunity into guilting him; Max tries to convince the firefighters to let him in so he can save his woman.
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Full disclosure: I have not seen or read any of this week. Blah, blah, blah, life in the theater, exhausted, etc. Open dress rehearsal was last night and the show opens tonight! I promised pictures, right? We'll see if I get around to it today...the makeup and hair and costumes are to die for!
Does anyone out there watch Eva Luna and TdA back to back? I do...and I am a nervous wreck! WAAAAY to much evilness! I think poor Laurita will be traumatized for life!
Sharon
Sharon
Permalink posted by 
: Friday, March 25, 2011 at 9:51:00 AM EDT
: Friday, March 25, 2011 at 9:51:00 AM EDT
Oh...and when Juan Jo went back to the fire dept..and was routing throw his bag...I thougth he was looking for some booze!
Sharon
Sharon
Permalink posted by : Friday, March 25, 2011 at 9:53:00 AM EDT
: Friday, March 25, 2011 at 9:53:00 AM EDT
Well both Victoria and Maria share the same "dummy" genes. Maria has accepted Max's marriage proposal, so why won't she tell him about the baby? Just stoopid!
ScuzzBoy looked like a leprechaun running away in the woods after Cruz. I think Cruz told him he looked pregnant. LOL
LMAO at Fausto's WTH? look when he heard Bernarda telling Juan Pablo that he was Gonzalo's kid not Octavio's. I wonder if Fausto really is Gonzalo's kid and Eva was just telling him he wasn't to keep him on the mission. If she knew that Maria was JP's kid she would have kept her mouth shut on that, b/c then Fausto would have to get over his crush on Maria b/c she'd be his sobrina.
ScuzzBoy looked like a leprechaun running away in the woods after Cruz. I think Cruz told him he looked pregnant. LOL
LMAO at Fausto's WTH? look when he heard Bernarda telling Juan Pablo that he was Gonzalo's kid not Octavio's. I wonder if Fausto really is Gonzalo's kid and Eva was just telling him he wasn't to keep him on the mission. If she knew that Maria was JP's kid she would have kept her mouth shut on that, b/c then Fausto would have to get over his crush on Maria b/c she'd be his sobrina.
Permalink posted by : Friday, March 25, 2011 at 10:01:00 AM EDT
: Friday, March 25, 2011 at 10:01:00 AM EDT
No prob. I'll start with what comes to mind first:
Victoria may be seeing the light about controlling Max or she is just looking to buy time. What is blowing my mind is that while she hasn't seen Ximeana's worst tantrums she has seen her extreme neediness. When she herself is very proudly self-reliant, how could she insist that Max marry and be happy with such a weakling and a leech?
I don't think Padre Hottie will actually give up his vows, but the fact that the bishop allowed him to take a sabbatical from them should have been enough to convince Bernarda that this is neither improper nor unusual. Except that the only reality Dona Dementa knows is her own.
How evil does it get that she torches a building to kill a defenseless pregnant girl and possibly a hundred other people as well?
The business about Fausto not being the child of Gonzalo was unnecessary and stretches our already tenuous hold on credibility in this series.
I watch Eva Luna and TdA back to back. Followed by Hombres de Honor on Late. That could be described as Romeo and Juliet meets The Godfather. I have to catch up to Telemundo's programs the morning after.
Victoria may be seeing the light about controlling Max or she is just looking to buy time. What is blowing my mind is that while she hasn't seen Ximeana's worst tantrums she has seen her extreme neediness. When she herself is very proudly self-reliant, how could she insist that Max marry and be happy with such a weakling and a leech?
I don't think Padre Hottie will actually give up his vows, but the fact that the bishop allowed him to take a sabbatical from them should have been enough to convince Bernarda that this is neither improper nor unusual. Except that the only reality Dona Dementa knows is her own.
How evil does it get that she torches a building to kill a defenseless pregnant girl and possibly a hundred other people as well?
The business about Fausto not being the child of Gonzalo was unnecessary and stretches our already tenuous hold on credibility in this series.
I watch Eva Luna and TdA back to back. Followed by Hombres de Honor on Late. That could be described as Romeo and Juliet meets The Godfather. I have to catch up to Telemundo's programs the morning after.
Kat: Thank you for the wonderful recap. I always enjoy your snark and insight. "They fight over who's the Alpha Crazy in this pack" was my favorite (of many) line.
I give you and all of the recappers tremendous credit for summarizing all 2 hours.
Congratulations and "break a leg" tonight. Look forward to seeing the pictures.
I like both Maite and William but they exhibit none of the sizzling chemistry they had in CCEA.
Hate that Nathy and Fabian aren't together and the fact she is pining for JJ is even more loathsome.
Xi looks like she is sleep walking through her scenes. Ack.
That said, I am trying to watch most of the first hour mostly because of Victoria Ruffo and of course, the always villianous Cantu.
Diana
I give you and all of the recappers tremendous credit for summarizing all 2 hours.
Congratulations and "break a leg" tonight. Look forward to seeing the pictures.
I like both Maite and William but they exhibit none of the sizzling chemistry they had in CCEA.
Hate that Nathy and Fabian aren't together and the fact she is pining for JJ is even more loathsome.
Xi looks like she is sleep walking through her scenes. Ack.
That said, I am trying to watch most of the first hour mostly because of Victoria Ruffo and of course, the always villianous Cantu.
Diana
Permalink posted by : Friday, March 25, 2011 at 11:27:00 AM EDT
: Friday, March 25, 2011 at 11:27:00 AM EDT
Thank you for recap.
I must admit going into this novela not being a william levy fan, I have done a 360 degree turn. I think his acting has lifted this TN, to me he is so believable in his heart wrenching performance of a man who wants to be with his love.
But I have to agree chemistry not there for both william and maite as their first novela. I guess they are used to each other now, or has all the crazyness of the other characters not allowed us to experience it.
BTW, I just read an article that the character of Linda was written out because droves of women objected to her. Televisa had no choice but to kill her off. So I guess we can't tolerate sexual adulterour characters but we can tolerate one that commits murders to save her soul?
I must admit going into this novela not being a william levy fan, I have done a 360 degree turn. I think his acting has lifted this TN, to me he is so believable in his heart wrenching performance of a man who wants to be with his love.
But I have to agree chemistry not there for both william and maite as their first novela. I guess they are used to each other now, or has all the crazyness of the other characters not allowed us to experience it.
BTW, I just read an article that the character of Linda was written out because droves of women objected to her. Televisa had no choice but to kill her off. So I guess we can't tolerate sexual adulterour characters but we can tolerate one that commits murders to save her soul?
Permalink posted by : Friday, March 25, 2011 at 11:36:00 AM EDT
: Friday, March 25, 2011 at 11:36:00 AM EDT
....I don't know what to say but ETDA is starting to annoy me....what will really convince Maria to tell Max that she's preggers??,,..and Max, why haven't u gotten the clue?..Cruz already almost spilled the beans to u...u just have to look deeper...on the first place, something happened already to u and Maria...wen u reconciled with Maria, she said she have a surprise 4 yah...just few days ago, maria almost vomit in front of u...and maybe ysterday, Cruz gave u a big hint...why didn't u get that??..just "connect the dots"...
i think i'm gonna have a debate with Meija on this, hahahahahha...
Im really glad PJP is helping MD...i like him there...not lyk Victoria!..!.coz in CCEA, cecelia, the mom, is kind to MC from the start...and now, it's the other way around...hehhehe..
i think i'm gonna have a debate with Meija on this, hahahahahha...
Im really glad PJP is helping MD...i like him there...not lyk Victoria!..!.coz in CCEA, cecelia, the mom, is kind to MC from the start...and now, it's the other way around...hehhehe..
Permalink posted by : Friday, March 25, 2011 at 11:47:00 AM EDT
: Friday, March 25, 2011 at 11:47:00 AM EDT
Kat: We are all so happy that your theatrical career is thriving! We would dearly love to see fotos, etc. In the midst of your most busy life, thank you so much for your continued excellent recaps! All of our recappers are such gems! Gracias!
X-Factor: Certifiably nuts. She literally enjoyed running over Maria E! What I am not clear about is what happened with the police chase? One minute they are chasing her and the next minute?
St. Bernard: Agree. What in the world was her point in telling JP that Octavio was not his father? Is this somehow supposed to make him cling to her? At one time, I thought that Gui was the only sociopath in this TN and that St. Bernard was merely (ha!) a narcissist, but she now clearly falls into the sociopath category as do Padilla and Alacran for their absolute willingness to burn innocent people!
@ Nellie: SO ITA with you! I certainly don't condone adultery, but it's ok to see women continually abused on the TN!? What kind of logic is that? Has no one complained about how Gui so proudly despises and uses women?!
Someone help me here to understand this. Is this a cultural phenomena?
If one thinks about it, Linda was too abruptly removed from the story. There was so much more that could have been done with her story line.
I am stunned...absolutely stunned. So...you women out there who complained. Please explain this double standard. Please explain why a man can 'order' a woman to have an abortion and it's ok. Please explain why it was OK for Gasoline Pants Ros in STuD to rape a young girl and continue his evil trail of deeds.
I tell you...I am absolutely mystified.
In any event, Padre JP is becoming more adorable as the days go by. Even he acknowledged to Padre Jer that Octavio had told him that he knew nothing of the world. JP is waking up to reality!
I also very much liked the scene with St. Bernard and the cardinal (I assume he is a cardinal because of the red skull cap, yes?). It was like a scene right out of the Inquisition. That Cardinal would have given me the fright of my life, but good old St. Bernard stood right up to him. I was amazed at her tenacity during that conversation, but the cardinal really gave her the old one two punch! I loved it!!
...and Maximiliano! Oh yes! Dear Sweet William in a Kayak...I am loving your character more and more, too! Bravo to you for your 'discussion' with your self centered mother! BRAVO!
Gracias, Kat!
Susanita
X-Factor: Certifiably nuts. She literally enjoyed running over Maria E! What I am not clear about is what happened with the police chase? One minute they are chasing her and the next minute?
St. Bernard: Agree. What in the world was her point in telling JP that Octavio was not his father? Is this somehow supposed to make him cling to her? At one time, I thought that Gui was the only sociopath in this TN and that St. Bernard was merely (ha!) a narcissist, but she now clearly falls into the sociopath category as do Padilla and Alacran for their absolute willingness to burn innocent people!
@ Nellie: SO ITA with you! I certainly don't condone adultery, but it's ok to see women continually abused on the TN!? What kind of logic is that? Has no one complained about how Gui so proudly despises and uses women?!
Someone help me here to understand this. Is this a cultural phenomena?
If one thinks about it, Linda was too abruptly removed from the story. There was so much more that could have been done with her story line.
I am stunned...absolutely stunned. So...you women out there who complained. Please explain this double standard. Please explain why a man can 'order' a woman to have an abortion and it's ok. Please explain why it was OK for Gasoline Pants Ros in STuD to rape a young girl and continue his evil trail of deeds.
I tell you...I am absolutely mystified.
In any event, Padre JP is becoming more adorable as the days go by. Even he acknowledged to Padre Jer that Octavio had told him that he knew nothing of the world. JP is waking up to reality!
I also very much liked the scene with St. Bernard and the cardinal (I assume he is a cardinal because of the red skull cap, yes?). It was like a scene right out of the Inquisition. That Cardinal would have given me the fright of my life, but good old St. Bernard stood right up to him. I was amazed at her tenacity during that conversation, but the cardinal really gave her the old one two punch! I loved it!!
...and Maximiliano! Oh yes! Dear Sweet William in a Kayak...I am loving your character more and more, too! Bravo to you for your 'discussion' with your self centered mother! BRAVO!
Gracias, Kat!
Susanita
Permalink posted by : Friday, March 25, 2011 at 11:54:00 AM EDT
: Friday, March 25, 2011 at 11:54:00 AM EDT
Chiming in briefly about Linda:
My guess is that the writers were trying to make us like Linda and the viewers objected to that. She cheats, uses, men, sleeps around, etc, but then turns around and buys baby gifts and springs to Maria's defense. They're not trying to make Gui or Burnie a loveable villain. They were going for a variation of "hooker with a heart of gold" for Linda and failing miserably. I don't think it was so much the lying cheating skankiness itself that was the problem with her, but that they were trying to make us like the lying cheating skank. Maybe they were covering their own asses because they realized they'd written a horribly inconsistent character and no longer had any idea what to do with her.
My guess is that the writers were trying to make us like Linda and the viewers objected to that. She cheats, uses, men, sleeps around, etc, but then turns around and buys baby gifts and springs to Maria's defense. They're not trying to make Gui or Burnie a loveable villain. They were going for a variation of "hooker with a heart of gold" for Linda and failing miserably. I don't think it was so much the lying cheating skankiness itself that was the problem with her, but that they were trying to make us like the lying cheating skank. Maybe they were covering their own asses because they realized they'd written a horribly inconsistent character and no longer had any idea what to do with her.
Good point, Kat and thanks for addressing my confusion with the issue.
Susanita
Susanita
Permalink posted by : Friday, March 25, 2011 at 12:15:00 PM EDT
: Friday, March 25, 2011 at 12:15:00 PM EDT
Kat- I'm really enjoying the recap so far. Can't wait for the rest.
So the Mexican female audience hated the Linda character so much that they wrote her out. I didn't mind at all that Linda had these two sides to her personality-- loyal to her female friends, but a user of men. What's wrong with that? I prefer that over the ho is a witch to everyone and anyone.
I don't get why Fausto has to all of a sudden be someone else's bio child. Why not have him channel his growing feelings for Maria into an uncle-like protective relationship? She needs all the protectors she can get as she keeps falling into harm's way. I also think it would add more emotional heft to the whole revenge scheme if Fausto and JP are brothers and Fausto knows it. I keep tightening my beannie to reconcile the fact that Fausto should be a few years (3-6) older than JP but looks way younger.
I just cannot believe that Maria continues to refuse to tell Max about the baby. She's already accepted his marriage proposal! There is no reason not to tell him. It's not like she can hide it forever, especially with all that making out they're doing.
Someone asked on a late comment last night if it doesn't bother anyone else that Maria and Max are going around making love and smooching while he is married. Yes, it bugs me. It bugged me from the start when he kept going over to her house and calling her after he got married. He finally broke her down and now she's basically his mistress. I don't care what he says about divorcing Xi. Until he actually does it, he should RESPECT Maria by maintaining a chaste relationship with her.
So the Mexican female audience hated the Linda character so much that they wrote her out. I didn't mind at all that Linda had these two sides to her personality-- loyal to her female friends, but a user of men. What's wrong with that? I prefer that over the ho is a witch to everyone and anyone.
I don't get why Fausto has to all of a sudden be someone else's bio child. Why not have him channel his growing feelings for Maria into an uncle-like protective relationship? She needs all the protectors she can get as she keeps falling into harm's way. I also think it would add more emotional heft to the whole revenge scheme if Fausto and JP are brothers and Fausto knows it. I keep tightening my beannie to reconcile the fact that Fausto should be a few years (3-6) older than JP but looks way younger.
I just cannot believe that Maria continues to refuse to tell Max about the baby. She's already accepted his marriage proposal! There is no reason not to tell him. It's not like she can hide it forever, especially with all that making out they're doing.
Someone asked on a late comment last night if it doesn't bother anyone else that Maria and Max are going around making love and smooching while he is married. Yes, it bugs me. It bugged me from the start when he kept going over to her house and calling her after he got married. He finally broke her down and now she's basically his mistress. I don't care what he says about divorcing Xi. Until he actually does it, he should RESPECT Maria by maintaining a chaste relationship with her.
I think the women viewers got tired of Linda flaunting her fake hair and fake body, although that's very common in the TN world.
Permalink posted by : Friday, March 25, 2011 at 12:36:00 PM EDT
: Friday, March 25, 2011 at 12:36:00 PM EDT
Thank you for the recap, Kat, and break a leg!
When will JP wake up and smell the sulphur? Hopefully he'll realize his mother is BSC beyond help.
I was worried Burn-arda was going to take out the Bishop, right then and there.
Nice PSA on what to do if your building catches fire. Keep pitchers of water handy at all times.
When will JP wake up and smell the sulphur? Hopefully he'll realize his mother is BSC beyond help.
I was worried Burn-arda was going to take out the Bishop, right then and there.
Nice PSA on what to do if your building catches fire. Keep pitchers of water handy at all times.
Doris: I am LAUGHING re St. Bernard taking out the Bishop or Cardinal or whatever he is! It was some scene, wasn't it?
Vivi: Agreed that Max does some good things (like finally standing up to his mother) and some bad things (his current 'relationship' with Maria E). I'm more surprised that Maria E has accepted the relationship the way it is. I still don't understand why she refuses to tell Max about this child.
Susanita
Vivi: Agreed that Max does some good things (like finally standing up to his mother) and some bad things (his current 'relationship' with Maria E). I'm more surprised that Maria E has accepted the relationship the way it is. I still don't understand why she refuses to tell Max about this child.
Susanita
Permalink posted by : Friday, March 25, 2011 at 12:44:00 PM EDT
: Friday, March 25, 2011 at 12:44:00 PM EDT
BTW, I just read an article that the character of Linda was written out because droves of women objected to her. Televisa had no choice but to kill her off. So I guess we can't tolerate sexual adulterour characters but we can tolerate one that commits murders to save her soul?
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I don't think that's it, because if that were the case we should also be killing Maria Desamparada and Ximeana off too.
I think the character of Linda was too over the top with all of her writhing and cooing and pawing and fake boobs a'popping and a$$ a'wrigglin'. Ivana from STUD didn't even do all of that.
And then, there was no good reason Linda should have even consented to marrying Juanjo in the first place and she wasn't even that good of a friend to Maria and Nati.
Now Juanjo needs to follow Linda and everything will be all good again.
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I don't think that's it, because if that were the case we should also be killing Maria Desamparada and Ximeana off too.
I think the character of Linda was too over the top with all of her writhing and cooing and pawing and fake boobs a'popping and a$$ a'wrigglin'. Ivana from STUD didn't even do all of that.
And then, there was no good reason Linda should have even consented to marrying Juanjo in the first place and she wasn't even that good of a friend to Maria and Nati.
Now Juanjo needs to follow Linda and everything will be all good again.
Permalink posted by : Friday, March 25, 2011 at 12:44:00 PM EDT
: Friday, March 25, 2011 at 12:44:00 PM EDT
Good Morning, folks!
I am on the west coast, so it is still morning here. It is cold @ 36degrees here in Flagstaff, AZ.
All I can say is Poor, Poor Maria, however, she seems to be tough. First, she knock her head on the counter of the vintage in the restroom while cleaning the mirror. She made it through that without a hospital trip.
Now we will witness the attacks of the two wolves - first, Ximena gets a crack at running Maria over with her running SUV. This wolf didn't succeed because Maria was still standing. Like I said she is tough - another example.
The other mother wolf and her evil doers are torching the building where Maria lives. I somehow know that Maria will survive through this. It seems that her character is tough and strong.
Maria needs to be tough and strong because she seems to have many enemies and people that don't like her.
We will see what happens tonight. Who will be heros? What will happen to the evil doers and wolves?
I am on the west coast, so it is still morning here. It is cold @ 36degrees here in Flagstaff, AZ.
All I can say is Poor, Poor Maria, however, she seems to be tough. First, she knock her head on the counter of the vintage in the restroom while cleaning the mirror. She made it through that without a hospital trip.
Now we will witness the attacks of the two wolves - first, Ximena gets a crack at running Maria over with her running SUV. This wolf didn't succeed because Maria was still standing. Like I said she is tough - another example.
The other mother wolf and her evil doers are torching the building where Maria lives. I somehow know that Maria will survive through this. It seems that her character is tough and strong.
Maria needs to be tough and strong because she seems to have many enemies and people that don't like her.
We will see what happens tonight. Who will be heros? What will happen to the evil doers and wolves?
Narcissism and sociopathy are frequent bedfellows.
Narcissists are incapable of feeling anything for anyone else; all other people exist to serve them or reflect them to others. Fail to do this and you are less than nothing to them.
Sociopathy is defined as "a pervasive pattern of disregard for, and violation of, the rights of others that begins in childhood or early adolescence and continues into adulthood." See the following:
"http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antisocial_personality_disorder"
Dona Dementa displays at least half of these traits; we don't know about her childhood, but it couldn't have been good.
While JP might be an exemplary priest, I am betting that his "calling" came after his ordination. Octavio called it perfectly when he said that JP had been essentially locked away from the normal life of a young gentleman. He had never been permitted to make choices of his own and was still a virgin at 24 years old. This is way abnormal.
He should do what Padre Alberto did and become Episcopalian. More life choices for him and more hissy fits from his madre from hell. [snerk]
Nobody expects The Spanish Inquisition! Amongst our weaponry are such diverse elements as: fear, surprise, ruthless efficiency, an almost fanatical devotion to the Pope, and nice red uniforms - Oh damn! The bishop (or cardinal) was a cool guy. Dona Dementa should go through a time warp and actually face the Inquisition; her hubris would get her burned at the stake.
Narcissists are incapable of feeling anything for anyone else; all other people exist to serve them or reflect them to others. Fail to do this and you are less than nothing to them.
Sociopathy is defined as "a pervasive pattern of disregard for, and violation of, the rights of others that begins in childhood or early adolescence and continues into adulthood." See the following:
"http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antisocial_personality_disorder"
Dona Dementa displays at least half of these traits; we don't know about her childhood, but it couldn't have been good.
While JP might be an exemplary priest, I am betting that his "calling" came after his ordination. Octavio called it perfectly when he said that JP had been essentially locked away from the normal life of a young gentleman. He had never been permitted to make choices of his own and was still a virgin at 24 years old. This is way abnormal.
He should do what Padre Alberto did and become Episcopalian. More life choices for him and more hissy fits from his madre from hell. [snerk]
Nobody expects The Spanish Inquisition! Amongst our weaponry are such diverse elements as: fear, surprise, ruthless efficiency, an almost fanatical devotion to the Pope, and nice red uniforms - Oh damn! The bishop (or cardinal) was a cool guy. Dona Dementa should go through a time warp and actually face the Inquisition; her hubris would get her burned at the stake.
Genevieve- Teflon Maria is also not getting enough food to feed herself and her growing baby. The Doc mentioned malnourishment.
Kat, thanks so much for your recap filled with snark. Break a leg on your production and please post pics when you can.
I finally viewed the Wed. episode and must admit that I'm with those of you who were swooning over Padre Hottie. He is attractive to me but I guess shaving made all the difference b/c last night I was saying, "who is that incredibly handsome man on my screen?" Yeah more male eye candy!
I finally viewed the Wed. episode and must admit that I'm with those of you who were swooning over Padre Hottie. He is attractive to me but I guess shaving made all the difference b/c last night I was saying, "who is that incredibly handsome man on my screen?" Yeah more male eye candy!
In CCEA didn't the WL and MP characters spend most of the novela apart with her hating him? I think I saw a bit of an episode where they danced together and she was in a sexy red dress trying to make him jealous. Then they have a sexy I hate you/I love you dance and she runs off. I admit, I saw the chemistry there, but I saw just as much, and more, chemistry in many of the WL/JB scenes in Sortilegio. And they were together for pretty much all of that novela. I know the wrath of the CCEA loyal viewers will rain down on me. :) I think the only prblem I have with Max and MD is that they do a lot of smooching, but not enough talking. And they haven't really worked together to solve a common problem yet (Alex and MJ had a lot of working together/joint adventure moments), so the relationship doesn't really feel like it's built on anything other than mooning at each other and making out (and more) on her couch and his car. She hasn't even been to his house! I have faith that the writers will give us more dimensions to their relationship as the show evolves.
UA: ITA!!!!! Honestly, I found myself thinking that I would absolutely not want to face that Cardinal either now or in a time warp to the Inquisition!
Susanita
Susanita
Permalink posted by : Friday, March 25, 2011 at 2:10:00 PM EDT
: Friday, March 25, 2011 at 2:10:00 PM EDT
Anon207:
"BTW, I just read an article that the character of Linda was written out because droves of women objected to her. Televisa had no choice but to kill her off. So I guess we can't tolerate sexual adulterour characters but we can tolerate one that commits murders to save her soul?"
5ft Latina:
"My guess is that the writers were trying to make us like Linda and the viewers objected to that. "
I don't believe that was the case because at th same time this novela was on, Teresa was being a ratings hit.
There's been lots of characteres in novelas before where the characteres making wrong choices, being "easy", acting spiteful and being manipulative can and have been redeemed with the audience's approval.
And let's remember successful novelas like "Salomé" where the main character was a night dancer who falls inlove with a married man and they have an adulterous relationship (and in the original "Colorina" she was actually a prostitute).
I think this was just a failure on the side of the production of TDA to make the character connect with the audience thanks to several factors (actress, writing, directing, etc.) not the idea of the character itself.
Jarocha
"BTW, I just read an article that the character of Linda was written out because droves of women objected to her. Televisa had no choice but to kill her off. So I guess we can't tolerate sexual adulterour characters but we can tolerate one that commits murders to save her soul?"
5ft Latina:
"My guess is that the writers were trying to make us like Linda and the viewers objected to that. "
I don't believe that was the case because at th same time this novela was on, Teresa was being a ratings hit.
There's been lots of characteres in novelas before where the characteres making wrong choices, being "easy", acting spiteful and being manipulative can and have been redeemed with the audience's approval.
And let's remember successful novelas like "Salomé" where the main character was a night dancer who falls inlove with a married man and they have an adulterous relationship (and in the original "Colorina" she was actually a prostitute).
I think this was just a failure on the side of the production of TDA to make the character connect with the audience thanks to several factors (actress, writing, directing, etc.) not the idea of the character itself.
Jarocha
Permalink posted by : Friday, March 25, 2011 at 2:11:00 PM EDT
: Friday, March 25, 2011 at 2:11:00 PM EDT
Another fun ride, 5 Ft.! Thanks!
"Who's going to save my soul?" Bernarda cries. OK, listen, lady, either you've done nothing wrong and therefore your soul doesn't need saving OR you have done some bad, bad shit, and if you admit it and repent you can be absolved according to the rules of your belief system. PICK ONE!" ITSA!!!LOLOL!
~~Break a leg!
"Who's going to save my soul?" Bernarda cries. OK, listen, lady, either you've done nothing wrong and therefore your soul doesn't need saving OR you have done some bad, bad shit, and if you admit it and repent you can be absolved according to the rules of your belief system. PICK ONE!" ITSA!!!LOLOL!
~~Break a leg!
Jarocha- Thanks for clarifying why Linda was written out. I'll accept bad writing/directing/acting (although I'd say JuanJo should have remained dead for those very reasons), over the ladies of Mexico suddenly deciding a tn character was too much of a ho to live. 80% of tn character would be killed off if that were the case!
Anon 207, I was LMAO at your description of Linda. I think you are so right...!!!
By the way, what does BSC stand for...???
Ann-NYC
By the way, what does BSC stand for...???
Ann-NYC
Permalink posted by : Friday, March 25, 2011 at 2:44:00 PM EDT
: Friday, March 25, 2011 at 2:44:00 PM EDT
5ft: Thanks for a fine recap. I've watched almost all episodes but have only managed to lurk here.
When does this TN end?
When does this TN end?
Sweet smoochies in the Fer--Cruz scenes! I loved the conversation between Cruz & Fabian AND the 'gentleman's challenge' for Fer. It reminds me of a P.G. Wodehouse short story I read years ago.
Let's hope Telerisa doesn't mess up this subplot. It's the only part worth watching in Triunfo del Error. Hopefully the boys will fight fair.
If anyone in Victoria's office would take time to check online, I'll bet Rox has the stolen goods listed for sale on eBay, CraigsList D.F., or Etsy.
"I think this was just a failure on the side of the production of TDA to make the character connect ..... not the idea of the character itself."
Jarocha---Her hair did it for me. Really, though, possibly different 'directing' or a different actress may have led to a different outcome.
Let's hope Telerisa doesn't mess up this subplot. It's the only part worth watching in Triunfo del Error. Hopefully the boys will fight fair.
If anyone in Victoria's office would take time to check online, I'll bet Rox has the stolen goods listed for sale on eBay, CraigsList D.F., or Etsy.
"I think this was just a failure on the side of the production of TDA to make the character connect ..... not the idea of the character itself."
Jarocha---Her hair did it for me. Really, though, possibly different 'directing' or a different actress may have led to a different outcome.
5ft Latina thanks for the recap and good luck with your production.
The LindaHo character was the same in EPDA so i don't get what the problem is with the women audience in Mexico unless they were so turn off by the string that disappeared into the crack and all we saw were the cheeks on the beach with Pimp Daddy Os?
Like Vivi if someone had to go they should have made it Vivi.
I love last niight's parallel scenes of both selfish mothers making their son's lives miserable it was well played. Bravo to Max for finally standing up to Victoria and telling her he had it with her moods and her selfishness.
Icing on the cake was Fer telling mommy dearest she would be left alone and all she would have is her and her XXX-factor.Hahahahaha Fer is really starting to grow on me now.
Vivi in CCEA there was at least a building up of JM and MC relationship and the reason why they broke up. In this their relationship has been under developed and i agree Max needs to keep the relationship chaste until he is divorced from XXX-factor.
That is one tough baby Maria E is carrying first she falls and hits her stomach cleaning the womens bathroom. The Dr. lets them know the baby and mother are malnourished and their health is at risk. Then XXX-factor tries to run her over. How the cops didn't mange to chase her down i don't know.Then her grandmother tries to burn her alive.
C'mon Victoria are the rooms sound proof in your house that you don't hear your daughter in law going crazy in your step sons room?
The LindaHo character was the same in EPDA so i don't get what the problem is with the women audience in Mexico unless they were so turn off by the string that disappeared into the crack and all we saw were the cheeks on the beach with Pimp Daddy Os?
Like Vivi if someone had to go they should have made it Vivi.
I love last niight's parallel scenes of both selfish mothers making their son's lives miserable it was well played. Bravo to Max for finally standing up to Victoria and telling her he had it with her moods and her selfishness.
Icing on the cake was Fer telling mommy dearest she would be left alone and all she would have is her and her XXX-factor.Hahahahaha Fer is really starting to grow on me now.
Vivi in CCEA there was at least a building up of JM and MC relationship and the reason why they broke up. In this their relationship has been under developed and i agree Max needs to keep the relationship chaste until he is divorced from XXX-factor.
That is one tough baby Maria E is carrying first she falls and hits her stomach cleaning the womens bathroom. The Dr. lets them know the baby and mother are malnourished and their health is at risk. Then XXX-factor tries to run her over. How the cops didn't mange to chase her down i don't know.Then her grandmother tries to burn her alive.
C'mon Victoria are the rooms sound proof in your house that you don't hear your daughter in law going crazy in your step sons room?
Permalink posted by : Friday, March 25, 2011 at 4:08:00 PM EDT
: Friday, March 25, 2011 at 4:08:00 PM EDT
Thanks Kat. As usual, super-funny.
A favorite line:
Um, excuse me Max, but Vic just told Pipino that he's got to design knitwear. That far outweighs your self-created personal drama!"
I always adore your clever interjections.
I've no doubt that Maria and Nathy will survive the fire as well as the little Mini-Max, but I'm worried about Milagros.
Why in the world would Maria agree to any deal with Victoria. I don't see a single advantage to that agreement for Maria.
Carlos
A favorite line:
Um, excuse me Max, but Vic just told Pipino that he's got to design knitwear. That far outweighs your self-created personal drama!"
I always adore your clever interjections.
I've no doubt that Maria and Nathy will survive the fire as well as the little Mini-Max, but I'm worried about Milagros.
Why in the world would Maria agree to any deal with Victoria. I don't see a single advantage to that agreement for Maria.
Carlos
Blusamari - Vic's house is probably large enough, that she can't her Ximena's crazy "Winning" rants, especially depending on the floor plan. There are some houses in our area that are 10k+ sq. ft. A small family could probably live at one end before the owners ever discovered them. Really.
Great 5ft as always
There must be some reason for NOT having JP & Fausto related, what could that be?
They do a really good makeup job on Fausto.
Just what the vecino needs a drunkard for a bombero.
I think Mejia should become a new adjective for dumb, stupid. That mejia persona, mi mejia perro, I feel so mejia.
Max to the rescue.
I think WL & Maite have lost the spark that you all have said they had in Cuidado, because they have no more interest in each other.
But hey that's what acting is all about, Vivian Leigh & Clark Gable couldn't stand each other.
There must be some reason for NOT having JP & Fausto related, what could that be?
They do a really good makeup job on Fausto.
Just what the vecino needs a drunkard for a bombero.
I think Mejia should become a new adjective for dumb, stupid. That mejia persona, mi mejia perro, I feel so mejia.
Max to the rescue.
I think WL & Maite have lost the spark that you all have said they had in Cuidado, because they have no more interest in each other.
But hey that's what acting is all about, Vivian Leigh & Clark Gable couldn't stand each other.
Doris ita with what you're saying but the last time XXX-factor was ranting and raving at Max everyone in that house heard her from Victoria to Os and i believe even er showed up too.
It took all this time for it finally to get through to Victoria that Max doesn't love XXX-factor? How about her role and the part she played in setting him up to be married to the odious one? When is she going to realize that Max is a adult not a teenager or a child.
She wants to blame Maria E. for siccing LindaHo's on Os but she doesn't want to own up to her own mistakes with her own step son?
I don't get it where she has the nerve to say Maria E. betrayed her about Os. Os is a grown man and what loyalty should Maria E. give her by the way she treated her. This was before she fired her and started getting her fired from her jobs.
It took all this time for it finally to get through to Victoria that Max doesn't love XXX-factor? How about her role and the part she played in setting him up to be married to the odious one? When is she going to realize that Max is a adult not a teenager or a child.
She wants to blame Maria E. for siccing LindaHo's on Os but she doesn't want to own up to her own mistakes with her own step son?
I don't get it where she has the nerve to say Maria E. betrayed her about Os. Os is a grown man and what loyalty should Maria E. give her by the way she treated her. This was before she fired her and started getting her fired from her jobs.
Permalink posted by : Friday, March 25, 2011 at 5:13:00 PM EDT
: Friday, March 25, 2011 at 5:13:00 PM EDT
Variopinta LOL yeah i do feel so Mejia today bleh!
Victoria she didn't smell any gasoline coming out of Maria E.'s apartment complex?
Victoria she didn't smell any gasoline coming out of Maria E.'s apartment complex?
Permalink posted by : Friday, March 25, 2011 at 5:16:00 PM EDT
: Friday, March 25, 2011 at 5:16:00 PM EDT
Blusam: You are right! I almost forgot! That wonderful scene where Fer tells Victoria she is going to end up alone was great. Fer was slowly coming down the stairs just taking the 'discussion' between Max and Victoria one step at a time. Rip! Another veil lifted off of her eyes!
Yes...that was a darn good scene and it left Victoria speechless. A good thing!
Susanita
Yes...that was a darn good scene and it left Victoria speechless. A good thing!
Susanita
Permalink posted by : Friday, March 25, 2011 at 5:31:00 PM EDT
: Friday, March 25, 2011 at 5:31:00 PM EDT
Susanita the best part was when she said you'll be alone with XXX-factor implying you love her so much you end up by yourself with her. Which in part is true she already has a failed marriage and now her family the last one will be her place of business. I think her not listening to Oscar who warned her about selling Os's shares and now Pepino about dingy teeth Rox is going to be her downfall. Why would Pepino lie to her about Rox anyway?
Permalink posted by : Friday, March 25, 2011 at 5:42:00 PM EDT
: Friday, March 25, 2011 at 5:42:00 PM EDT
Kat, a wonderful recap, studded with so many gems of laughter. Here's to your impressive career on the stage (and the chorus risers.) Would love to see you perform in person.
I like to think of this episode as Defeat of the Ultimatums. Why was everyone drawing lines in the sand and expecting compliance with them?
So many crazy people in this one.
The expulsion of LindaHo? Possibly large numbers of female Mexican viewers were as nauseated as we were by the vulgar display of bare butt cheeks and rose up in united fury and disgust.
Loved the line about Pipino having to design knitwear, among many others. Especially loved the either/or challenge to Dona Dementa. Not that she'd recognize any attempt at logic.
You go, Cruz. Scuzzy Feddy was so easily overcome. Enjoyed the gentlemanly concord between Cruz and Fabian. Maybe they can sing a duet serenata! The bromance we DO NOT need--Papa Padilla and Alacrane. Blecch!
Come on, Maria! If you survive the fire, get some sense and confess the pregnancy to Max. Vicki has dug her hole so deep, I don't know that Maria can ever forgive her.
I'll be happy to see this go back to one hour. Can't take this much Mejia in two hours.
La Paloma
I like to think of this episode as Defeat of the Ultimatums. Why was everyone drawing lines in the sand and expecting compliance with them?
So many crazy people in this one.
The expulsion of LindaHo? Possibly large numbers of female Mexican viewers were as nauseated as we were by the vulgar display of bare butt cheeks and rose up in united fury and disgust.
Loved the line about Pipino having to design knitwear, among many others. Especially loved the either/or challenge to Dona Dementa. Not that she'd recognize any attempt at logic.
You go, Cruz. Scuzzy Feddy was so easily overcome. Enjoyed the gentlemanly concord between Cruz and Fabian. Maybe they can sing a duet serenata! The bromance we DO NOT need--Papa Padilla and Alacrane. Blecch!
Come on, Maria! If you survive the fire, get some sense and confess the pregnancy to Max. Vicki has dug her hole so deep, I don't know that Maria can ever forgive her.
I'll be happy to see this go back to one hour. Can't take this much Mejia in two hours.
La Paloma
Permalink posted by : Friday, March 25, 2011 at 5:43:00 PM EDT
: Friday, March 25, 2011 at 5:43:00 PM EDT
What a fab recap, 5ft!! "Alpha Crazy" LOL And yes, Xi was definitely channeling Ivana (Tho I think Gaby Spanic does BSCGJ (bat sh*t crazy guilty/jealous) better than anybody.
Burnie, Scorpion, Creepy Padilla= BSC (Just plain Bat Sh*t Crazy.)
I thought the bishop's Spanish was just beautiful. No problems understanding him. I was pleased that Burnie was banned from taking communion. Not, that it will help her see the light....just piss her off more.
LIST!
Awesome terms Doris has coined:
1. llorathon
2. Telerisa
3. Error de Amor
Vario- LMAO re mejia as a new adjective. Mejia Univision for messing with scheduling; mejia Mejia for bringing back JuanJo; mejia Nati for dissing Fab; Mejia Fab for dissing Nati; mejia mejia mejia!
My abfab scene was Fer telling Vic "you'll be alone with TU Ximena."
Burnie, Scorpion, Creepy Padilla= BSC (Just plain Bat Sh*t Crazy.)
I thought the bishop's Spanish was just beautiful. No problems understanding him. I was pleased that Burnie was banned from taking communion. Not, that it will help her see the light....just piss her off more.
LIST!
Awesome terms Doris has coined:
1. llorathon
2. Telerisa
3. Error de Amor
Vario- LMAO re mejia as a new adjective. Mejia Univision for messing with scheduling; mejia Mejia for bringing back JuanJo; mejia Nati for dissing Fab; Mejia Fab for dissing Nati; mejia mejia mejia!
My abfab scene was Fer telling Vic "you'll be alone with TU Ximena."
Hahaha i second that please mejia Victoria asap.
Wouldn't it be more easier and just tell Bernie she can't come to church anymore until she repents?
Wouldn't it be more easier and just tell Bernie she can't come to church anymore until she repents?
Permalink posted by : Friday, March 25, 2011 at 6:50:00 PM EDT
: Friday, March 25, 2011 at 6:50:00 PM EDT
Sara: I completely forgot about the Cardinal/Bishop/Whatever telling St. Bernard she could not take communion! Say...is that one step removed from excommunication? Does anyone know? ITA that the Cardinal's Spanish was beautiful, but he still reminded me of someone straight out of the inquisition!
Susanita
Susanita
Permalink posted by : Friday, March 25, 2011 at 7:53:00 PM EDT
: Friday, March 25, 2011 at 7:53:00 PM EDT
One more for the list of Doris-isms:
4. Llamada de la muñeca
Plus I forgot to chime in on the Linda write off.
I was annoyed not by Linda, but by Dorismar as Linda. I got tired of seeing her *ahem* assets and hair. I didn't think she was a good actress, either. So it wasn't the character, it was the way Linda played her.
I do agree it was way too sudden.
4. Llamada de la muñeca
Plus I forgot to chime in on the Linda write off.
I was annoyed not by Linda, but by Dorismar as Linda. I got tired of seeing her *ahem* assets and hair. I didn't think she was a good actress, either. So it wasn't the character, it was the way Linda played her.
I do agree it was way too sudden.
So far the changes made in this version LindaHo' got killed off and she didn't in EPDA. JJ didn't have a cousin named Cruz and Fabian at this point in the story was gone.I don't think there was a Eva replacing the Tomasa housekeeper. MM didn't leave to make a new life for herself elsewhere.
Permalink posted by : Friday, March 25, 2011 at 8:44:00 PM EDT
: Friday, March 25, 2011 at 8:44:00 PM EDT
Sara - I wish I could take credit for coining "Telerisa", but alas, I cannot. The rest are mine, though. ;o)
They showed that Eva Luna will be ending on April 11 so i guess the regular schedule will go back to the same at 10pm. TDA will probably be moved to 8pm replacing Eva Luna.
Permalink posted by : Friday, March 25, 2011 at 10:02:00 PM EDT
: Friday, March 25, 2011 at 10:02:00 PM EDT
Blu- Go to the main page for an explanation of what's happening with the schedule: http://caraycaray.blogspot.com/
TDA is being moved to 10pm.
TDA is being moved to 10pm.
...Maria, why are u that kind??..i mean, THAT KIND,..??..why????
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