Tuesday, May 10, 2011

Teresa Mon 5/9/11 #47-48 Discussion

I'm away for the next month so this and the next Monday's recaps will have to be discussion pages.  SandyTN will be doing the recaps for the last two Mondays I'll be out --TKS mucho, amiga!  If anyone has bullet points/hi-lites, I will be happy to post them. (I haven't even had a chance to watch the episodio myself yet. ) Since I'm unable to post this to the side while I'm gone, will somebody do that for me?  Thanks!  Enjoy!



Highlights by Anon. 207, ViviDC and Emarie follow--with appreciation:


CANCUN


Teresa flies to Cancun 1st class and books fancy hotel room.


Arturo charges after Fernando for getting with his sister. Fernando calms him down.


Arturo talks with Luisa about Fernando.

Teresa & Fernando meet on the beach, sparks fly. She thoughtbubbles about teaching Arturo that he's not the only man around, especially since she's only with him for money.

Later Teresa & Fernando formally meet each other with the de la Barrera siblings.

Paloma shows up and reveals she's part of Luna Turchesa. Arturo is mad & calls Ruben, who is like "I ain't know & besides, it's business."

Teresa finds out Paloma is in the mix and demands Arturo throw her out of the business or forget about being with her.

Later on Teresa gets all up in Paloma's face and Paloma gets back up in Teresa's face telling her she will work with Arturo if she wants and be whatever he wants her to be. Teresa fumes.
MEXICO CITY:



Debbie Downer is upset Teresa is in Cancun. Juana tells her not to worry.


Hector visits Aurora at the clinic. Juana stops by, they make a date.


Mariano is all happy that Teresa is in Cancun thinking about ditching Arturo & coming back to him. Aurora gets uncomfortable & leaves.

Pedro comes by Debbie Downer's house and sees Espe there. He's mad to learn Espe now lives there, tells her she's only his step-daughter and orders her not to see her brothers again.

Juana & Hector have a date. She tells him she can't have kids & that's why she's so close to Teresa.

Aurora runs into Aida who is talking about wedding plans. Aida badmouths Teresa per usual, and Aurora finds out that Arturo is also in Cancun.

Aurora runs straight to Mariano and tells him Arturo is also in Cancun. Mariano starts flipping up tables and destroys the rooftop.
MEXICO CITY:



Aurora gets Mariano to calm down. Dario invites them out to dance. 


Ruben tells Genoveva that Arturo called him up all mad that Paloma is part of the project and who Paloma is to Arturo. Genoveva deduces Paloma is a thorn in Teresa's side.


Ruben grills Paolo over his drug problem and tells him if he's a drughead Ruben will be his worst nightmare. He then grills Aida to see if she knows about Paolo's problem.

Aida then grills Paolo over the drugs and he's all like "you don't trust me so lets break up." Aida gives him a bunch of bebes FF>>>>>>>>

Mariano & Aurora go to the club and clearly cannot dance. But they have fun. Paolo & Aida are also at the club and make fun of Mariano (I guess they don't know he's a doctor now). Mariano wants to throw blows. Aurora stops him. Aida tells Paolo she can't believe Aurora wants the taxista now.

Mariano tells Aurora for the first time he sees her as his friend and not just Teresa's friend and hopes he can have her as a friend forever.

Pati is hanging out with Johnny in the garage when Grumps comes by. She lies and says she was waiting for Aurora & Mariano (who just happened to be walking by) to take her to volunteer at the clinic.

Johnny & Mariano make up.

Johnny finds out Espe is pregnant. They make up.

Dr. Ledesma comforts Espe.


Mariano and Aurora:

-Mariano gets his hopes up that Teresa will choose him, after her solo soul searching (he should know by now that she doesn’t have a soul).

-Mar’s hopes are dashed when he finds out Teresa lied to him from Aurora. Aida mentioned in casual conversation to Aurora that Arturo is in Cancun. They are both smart enough to add one plus one and get two.

-Mariano has a huge hissy fit when he finds out and he and Aurora come the closest to kissing than they ever have as she tries to calm him. They get invited to a club for a party by the other young doc and have a great time dancing with each other.

-Paulo and Aida nearly ruin the mood by taunting the “taxista”, but Aurora defends he friend Mariano. Mar is really touched and the two affirm that they are bffs, apart from Teresa.
-Aurora relates this progress to Proud Papa Hector the Director. They speak about why he never dated. He didn’t want to bring a woman into his house that might mistreat his baby, and he was holding out hope that her mother would return to them. Aurora encourages to date Juana. Sweet hugs all around.



Juana and her men:
-During a date Juana tells Hector her sad story. She’s a widow and when her husband died, her circumstances were reduced. She and Refugio were pregnant at the same time and became close then. Juana had a difficult pregnancy and lost her baby. She fell into a deep depression and only came out of it when Refugio had Teresa and placed Teresa in her arms. This snapped her out of her depression and for this she loves Teresa like a daughter. She is Teresa’s baptism godmother, not the godmother of her first communion. The consequences of her difficult pregnancy left her unable to have more children.
-Cutberto declares his love and desire to marry and have BABIES with Juana. In order not to deceive him and encourage his hopes, she cruelly tells him to bug off.



Esperanza Embarasada:
-Esperanza has moved into Teresa and Rosita’s old room. Rasario refuses payment and tries to plead Espe’s case to her dad. He points out that he is her STEP-dad (cold) and that now Espe is nothing to him.
-Espe cries on the shoulder of sweet Doc Ledesma (the Younger), and then faints. She reveals all to him about the family ostracism, the dumping by the married bf, and the pregnancy. He gives words of encouragement about her strength and ability to raise the baby, gives her prenatal vitamins, a referral to an OBGYN, and pledges to be the baby’s pediatrician. Open your eyes to the fine (single) man in front of you Epse!
-Espe’s mom hugs and kisses her and tells her she will always be her baby. Espe does not tell her about being preggers.
-Johnny overhears Espe on the phone with Teresa speaking about the pregnancy. His initial anger turns into brotherly concern and love. Espe explains how Mariano tried many times to talk her out of her relationship with Ruben and even came to blows with him. Johnny eats humble pie and apologizes to Mariano and takes up him night taxista duties once more.
Rubigote and Family:


-Rube and Geno realize who Paloma is after Art calls. Geno thinks she can use this to get at Teresa. Rube doesn’t want to rock the money boat by ticking off Tere, and in turn ticking off Art.


Lovers, Cheaters and Exs in Cancun:

-Arturo nearly breaks Fernando’s face as soon as he sees him. Although he has many doubts, he is assured and supportive of the two after Luisa and Fernando have heart to heart talks with him.

-During the Art/Luisa talk, Teresa (who is super excited to finally see the ocean and be staying in a fancy hotel) has an encounter with Fernando at the beach. They both check out each other’s assets and like what they see. But the flirting is left to just their eyes and knowing smiles as she says she’s waiting for her fiancé, and he says he’s waiting for his girlfriend. 

- They are pleasantly surprised to learn the identity of the other later during a cozy lovers’ dinner for four. The lovey dovey kissing and cooing continue throughout the trip on a spectacular yacht, at the pool, on the beach, etc. (with Ter and Fer slyly checking each other out). Ter is even more impressed when she learns from Art that Fer will inherit a massive inheritance from his mom. 
-Art wants to take the lovey dovey action even further in Teresa’s hotel room. We get some hot, insistent kissing from the Hot Prof, but Teresa can’t get herself fired up or get Mariano out of her mind. She temporarily puts off the really frustrated Prof by claiming she wants to go to her wedding bed a virgin. I would gladly help Ter out here by stepping in for her. I’m unselfish like that.
-Paloma shows up at the same hotel and runs into Art. They realize that they both invested in the same beach condo development. After the initial shock, they both seem ok about being co-investors. Teresa, however, is NOT ok about it. Teresa tries to intimidate Paloma into backing away. Paloma is not having it. Teresa tries to browbeat Art into backing out of the deal. He is not willing to sever a legal contract or drop out of such a deal because Ter is jealous. Teresa thought bubbles that she will make him pay for not bending to her every whim.

here are some highlights not necessarily in order

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Comments:
My DVR flaked on me last night. I had too many shows and apparently there wasn't room to record. I'll be looking for the eps on Youtube, then I will come back here to discuss!
 

Sorry, for the reduntant entry, didn't see Vivi's two posts...
Really good Anon 207, and Vivi.
Missed the part about Tere's thoughts of punishing Arturo for having Paloma in the project... and we know how vindictive she can be.
 

No worries Emarie. We all had the same impulse. I enjoyed these episodes because they showed that things don't always go Teresa's way. I will also really enjoy seeing her reaction when Mariano snubs her when she returns. I hope this is the last straw for him. I will lose all respect for him if he goes back to being her puppy dog when she tries to spin some new lie.

I think that had Aurora loudly proclaimed ther Mariano is a DOCTOR, it would have come off wrong. It would have seemed that she is only hanging out with him because he has moved up the food chain. The truth is that she would be with him whether he was still a taxista or a doctor. And she and he don't need to justify themselves to Aida and Paulo. Let them find out Mar is a doctor when they are bleeding in the street and he's the only one capable of saving them.

I'm really worried for Luisa. When Ter eventially breaks Art's heart, Paloma will be there to pick up the pieces. Aurora will be there for Mariano. But when Fernando eventually breaks Luisa's heart (and likely because of Ter), who will be there for her? Where was that nice boyfriend she had a few years ago? He needs to come back. I don't think he had a chance before when he was competing with the memory of her childhood crush Fernando. But I think he would after she has experienced the reality of having her heart broken by Fer.
 

Yeah, what happened to that guy? Was his name Ramon? He was very nice.
ITA, Vivi, so want to see Mariano snub Tere...need ringside seats to that! You are right, glad Aurora didn't make an issue of Mar being a doctor, that will come later.
Aida is a hopelessly snobby.
 

Okay, so I think I saw most of the two episodes--muchas gracias for the recaps!
Ooh, things are getting interesting. Fernando is in fact richer than Arturo, and now Teresa knows this.
I liked the scenes of Mariano and Aurora in the club! They looked like normal people, very very far away from the Tiburoncita and her carnage--well, until DRUNK Aida and Paulo showed up.
I was surpised thatt Rubigote was willing to quietly get him into rehab. I understand it was for selfish, scandal-less reasons, but it was still a surprise to hear. And nice to hear.
Ah, Paloma is back. It seems in the last few years she has grown more of a backbone, probably because her guilt isn't as strong? Plus she knows there is something fishy about the Tiburoncita.
 

Anon207, Vivi, and Emarie thank you all for providing the summary of what happened in last night’s show.

Teresa is finding out that she doesn't have Arturo wrapped around her finger like she thought. Paloma is definitely showing that she will fight for Arturo and Mariano's eyes are finally opened to who Teresa really is. Maybe now he will start to see Aurora in a completely new way. The sparks definitely flew when Teresa and Fernando met. I'm worried that Luisa will be hurt since Fernando couldn't really conceal his attraction for Teresa and she was definitely interested when she found out he's got more money than Arturo.

Looking forward to watching Mariano diss Teresa. That will be a Kodak moment for sure.

Teresa really told a whopper telling Arturo that she was a virgin. I felt sorry for him. He was truly hot and bothered. I bet he took the world's longest cold shower with all that pent up tension.
 

Just started watching Teresa this week! So. . .how many years ago was it that Paloma and Arturo were together? And if Teresa was also in the mix, how old is Teresa supposed to be now?
 

Thank you so much Anon207, Vivi and Emarie for helping me out. I was channel surfing again so I missed bits here and there so I do appreciate being filled in with your snappy recaps. I did see Fern and Luisa and Art and Tere on that yacht smooching. There were so many hormones in the air, if they had been in an enclosed space it would have exploded. Pooor Art ain't getting any soon or never from Teresa. Fernando maybe cause he has mucho dollars. Didn't know Teresa flew first class but saw her reveling in that beautiful ocean front room in Cancun. She is soo horrible. Hopefully, Hot Prof will be dumped soon and he will get back his credit card but with that humongous balance on it.

Emarie, I would like to read part 2 if it is ready or you have the time. All the recaps are entertaining and informative. Love them. Thanks.

GinCA
 

I would like that, too, GinCA, but I am sitting at my job and I think they will notice if I actually watch TV now.
I think most of episode 2 has been included, but I also missed about the last 20 minutes and want to know what happened. By the time I get home I'll bet someone else will have posted the last 20 minutes. Anyone up for that?
 

auglaize county,

Paloma ditched Arturo just before they were supposed to get married; I think it was 14 years ago now. Teresa wasn't on the scene back then; Luisa was only 11 years old and their parents had just been murdered.

Arturo hadn't even seen Paloma for many years, then she reappeared and Teresa told her that she and Arturo were married and expecting a baby to keep her away from him. This was way before Arturo and Teresa were even dating, she was just his assistant and student.
 

Thanks for summarizing, everyone. I don't remember the details of what happened at the end. The big thing in my mind is that Mariano REALLY needs to work on controlling his anger. Aurora's right to be afraid when he gets ragey. I'm glad he's finally talking about moving on but I wonder how long that will last.

I'm looking forward to Mariano dissing Teresa, and also to Arturo ripping that credit card out of Terror's greedy claws. I'll probably have to wait awhile for that one, though.
 

LOL, Emarie, I don't want you in trouble. Thanks for the recap and Anon207 and Vivi have been terrific in filling in the rest.

GinCA
 

And another thing: Luisa is rich. Why was she wearing the SAME bathing suit on the yacht as in the tabloid pictures? Glad to see she FINALLY bought another one later on in the episode.
 

LOL! Anon207, she actually has three of them: a turqouis, a red, and a purple. They all are a similar syle- one piece halter. They can't compete with Teresa' itsy bitsy teeny weeny striped bikini. I did like Teresa's who beach ensemble- striped bikini, matching off the shoulder top, white linen wrap pants, and sun hat.
 

Luisa just isn't quite the clotheshorse Teresa is. I'm sure three bathing suits is plenty for her...she'd generally always have a dry one available to put on, so why buy more? Back in the city, she seems to favor simple dresses and probably doesn't mind wearing the same ones repeatedly; in fact that makes for less clutter, so all the better. It suits her simple, nongreedy character. I like how Luisa is looking at the beach; she really has a glow. The only thing I don't like is the terrible pants they keep putting her in. They really don't flatter her, which is a shame because she's so pretty.
 

Samantha, love your line " there is something fishy about the Tiburoncita." Ha, ha.

GinCA
 

Thanks so much Anon207, Vivi, and Emaire for your recaps. Things are really heating up.

Welcome auglaize county!

Vivi - ITA w/you regarding Luisa. I hope her old bf comes back or they bring someone new one to help her heal. Also thanks for the laugh about you sacrificing yourself and taking Ter's place with el Profe.
 

I did get some names wrong in my mini-cap; me culpa.
Does anyone else think that Luisa and Arturo's parents being murdered will turn out to be the work of someone in our cast of characters, there is not too many old enough, but I can think of one candidate...
 

We saw the murder in flashback. I didn't recognize the guy but maybe he will turn up again, or will have been hired by someone we know. I can think of a few candidates.
 

Arturo/Luisa's parents were killed "11 or 12 years ago" when the show first started.

Luisa is older than Teresa but not by much. Luisa was 11 when everything went down and I heard Arturo was 24, so Luisa was probably 22 when the show first started and Arturo around 35.

Teresa was just graduating from high school, and Teresa, Aurora, Aida, Raul and Paolo were all in the same class so all of them were around 18.

Mariano had quit college so he's probably around the same age as Luisa.

Three years have gone by since the beginning of the show so:

Teresa, Aida, Aurora, Raul & Paolo = around 21/22 years old.

Luisa/Mariano: around 25, 26 years old

Arturo/Paloma/Fernando: around 38 years old.

What cracks me up is when people discuss Arturo's age (Teresa included) they act like he is 75 years old going after Teresa. I am pretty sure the age gap between Teresa/Arturo was no greater than the age gap between Ruben/Esperanza and quite frankly there seems to be a similar age gap between Esperanza and Dr. Ledesma the Younger.
 

Everyone was great filling in. Nice eye candy moments last night, so I would personally like to thank the writers, driectors and producers for those moments of gratuitous shirtless hunks across my screen. I had had a bad day at work, and that was definite pick me up.

And Vivi, "I would gladly help Ter out here by stepping in for her. I’m unselfish like that." - Right there with you. Of course, if Tere really wanted Arturo rapped around her little finger...he's already getting exasperated with her.

But then again, she may play both sides of the coin and make a side play for Fer as well. We know she has no scruples, and friendships only go so far with her if her own goals are in the way. Poor Luisa. I agree with everyone - but we always have that very trusting woman who's heart get stamped on, but does often get someone in the end. Who knows, it may even be Fer after all is said and done.

So want Mariano to move on with Aurora. (Those flashbacks wer interesting - he even looked thinner and younger.) But I agree with the temper...hope it doesn't come back to haunt him somehow. And for that matter, Artie has a pretty nasty one himself. Must be Teresa bringing out the worst in our galans. :)
 

I'm there with you Emarie. I think the haunting deaths will come back and the real reason for it will be revealed...
I agree with Karen, Vivi, you're "I'm unselfish like that" line was awesome and made me chuckle, right after I called next in line.
 

Just saying what I felt ladies... ;-)

I would like to take a moment to truly appreciate Dr. Ledesma (the Younger). What a great guy! He and Hector the Director are my favorite men in this. Ok, so they aren't eye candy, (I also thanked the tn gods for all that shirtless hunkiness last night), but I far prefer a nicely put together, smart, kind, levelheaded (listen up Mariano and Arturo) man.
 

Was it in one of the Anne of Green Gables books that one of the characters said, "It's too bad you can't have two husbands; one to look at and one to talk to" or something like that? I agree with you, though, Vivi. Looks fade but destructive rage episodes can last forever.
 

Anon, I think Tere, et al were finishing college not high school. You need a college degree to get into law school. So I think you need to add 4 years to everyone's age.

Thanks to all that have filled in the blanks today. A lot of things happened last night.

I hope Luisa doesn't end up in Esparanza shoes. I can just see Fer flying off to his next conquest.

Now we know why Juana will not marry Cutie, too bad she will not tell him.

Aida is just plain mean and probably has been her whole life. Everyone is beneath her or so she thinks. Just wait until the big fall. Mariano will probably be the one to save Paulo from a drug OD.

Rosemary
 

In Mexico, law is an undergraduate program. You don't need another degree first. Teresa et al were just finishing prep school when we met them.
 

No, at the beginning of the show Teresa & Crew were just finishing HIGH SCHOOL. There was much angst and hand wringing about where Teresa would go to college:

The gov't school she could afford

or

Universidad del Sur, where all the rich folks went to school, where shoulders are rubbed, backs scratched but offered no scholarships

I don't know how it works in Mexico but I haven't heard Mariano, Teresa, Aida etc. say a thing about med school or law school.

Aurora is apparently a freshman b/c she went to Paris for 3 years.
 

Rosemary- I wish Juana would tell Cutberto too about her inability to have children and let him decide for himself. By courting a woman in her late 30s, early 40s, he's got to know the chances are slimmer anyway.
 

Cutberto wants children, and it seems Juana would like to have them, too, but I don't think we've ever heard him insist that they produce them themselves. Why wouldn't they consider adoption? Juana really should at least tell him what is holding her back. Maybe she's just afraid to hear him say that it's a dealbreaker, but I don't think he would.
 

Julia, Wiki states that a law degree (Licenciado en Derecho) is a 5 year program. When my in-house counsel gets home, I will check with him. This group needs to be older or my beanie needs a new lining.

Rosemary
 

Jarocha told us that it's typically a five-year program, but can be done in four years by taking summer classes. If we assume Teresa and her frenemies did that, then we either had more time before and after the three-year jump than it seemed like, or that 3-year number was well rounded off, or we need to tighten our beanies. Anyway, I don't think Teresa is older than 22 or so.

BTW my word verification is "realcara"...i.e. what Arturo is going to see on Tiburoncita one of these days, and it's going to give him a real scare.
 

@ Samantha - "Plus she knows there is something fishy about the Tiburoncita." LOL! Great line!

OK - who decided Sebastian needed to remove his chest hair!?!! The man has gorgeous chest/ab hair. Denuded like that he looked he has a teenager's belly.

The scene where Teresa got a first class ticket was hilarious. She loudly protested at the ticket counter when some man "cut in line". The clerk explained that it was his privilege because he was flying first class. Her reaction - "Oooooo! Well then, give me the best ticket you've got!" LOL!

Audrey
 

Guys with physiques like that look better without body hair. Eugenio Siller is the only reason I'm still watching Aurora.

How many bikini bathing suits did Tiburoncita acquire during this trip? It looked like she had three new ones per day.

If she decides to jilt Arturo for Fernando for any reason she is not only out of her mind she will be risking her life. Arturo's hair-trigger temper can only take so much.

Let's see how much it's provoked by the credit card bill he'll get in another few episodes. The fish odor will be intense.

Fernando is un hijo de puta for his behavior.

Juana should definitely aim for Hector the Director. She deserves a break. And I'm totally on board with Esperanza and Dr Ledesma.
 

Thanks for the hilights and minicaps. Loved the comments. Sorry that the print of the edit didn't show up perfect, but I'm at a disadvantage where I am. Can't wait for tonight's emotithon.
 

Thanks for the recaps everyone. What a great group effort. It's fun hearing the different takes on last night's antics.

I was shocked that in the boat scene they actually had the sails up and they looked fairly well trimmed. They almost never do that in these shows.
 

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