Caray, Caray!

HEREDEROS - GRAN FINAL

Thanks, Jean. Your very snarky recapette of the end of this exactly mirrored my own reaction.

I can only add a couple of estupideces that I noticed. Julieta is in the car with the whimpering baby, José driving, when she tells Paula she'll give her back the baby if she leaves Juan forever. Say what? She thinks she'll get Juan back after kidnapping his baby?

Another disappointing thing: Why didn't they ever have her take off the black wig? Even in prison? I was really looking forward to seeing wisps of hair on a mostly bald head. Guess the actress isn't a Method Actress, willing to go all the way for a role.

The other majorly dumb thing was all the scenes of guys on horseback, apparently also chasing a car moving about 60 mph.

Why the heck didn't they show Consuelo's baby? She wasn't even in the final, happy compromiso party scene. Or did I miss it?

I actually thought they were going to end it when the woman in red arrives and says she's Juan's sister. And I thought: perfect!
 

CORAZÓN - VIERNES

After the "circo" outside Lola's house, Apolo and Lola snap at each other. She doesn't want him touching her, and makes it clear this was only an act. Apolo and Agapito begin to realize they may have bitten off more than they can chew. Lola Volcán is not exactly manageable.

Marcelo Santacruz is one of the most bad-tempered villains I've seen. Usually, they have moments of demonstrating oily charm. All he does is snarl at everyone.

Ramón tells him the cargo has arrived safely. And shows Marcelo a briefcase full of money. Either I was wrong, and the cargo is not women, or Marcelo and Ramon don't really know what Tiberio is using their company for. Ramón tells Marcelo it was some stuff used in producing drugs.

Soledad is demonstrating a wonderful personality change. She takes charge of making Etelvina part of the household. She chides Lola for her disparate in telling the whole world she'd marry Apolo.

We see another side of Apolo. Agapito has to pitch a fit to keep him from hiring a prostitute to relieve his tension over his failure with Lola. Agapito warns him how disastrous this could be for his career.

At least Andrés, unlike many dumber galanes, understands completely that Lola is doing this to drive him away, at this point mostly because of Debora's suicide threat.

For some reason, they've done a complete personality change with Adela. She's very rude to Lola, who took her into her home, along with her disabled abuelito. I'm not exactly sure what happened to her with that guy. Did he slip her a "date rape" drug? Or was she just drunk? And why did the guy leave her money?

Sofía, discouraged by Rod and Sole's closeness, decides to sell her Palacio company shares and move back to NY. She tries to talk Andrés into doing the same. With Deb and Vicki eavesdropping, he says: ¡Nunca! ¡Jamás!

Andrés goes to Danny's room, gets him out of bed and re-affirms he'll never sell his shares. He also warns Danny he might have to visit him in jail someday if he follows in his fther's footsteps.

After being threatened by Marcelo, Deb tries feebly to get Andrés to sell, then begins to have pain and bleeding.

Soledad and Rodrigo finally make love on the boat (which turns out to be his, and not a charter). Lola has another fortune telling dream. She awakes in the night, calls Soledad, worried. Then Sole gives us a big foreshadowing scene in seeming to tell Lola she'll always watch over her even if she's not around. Rod wakes up and finds her missing from the boat.
 

HEREDEROS

Novelera - there was about a 2 second view of Johnny and Consuelo with babe in arms at the party. Cute kid - curly hair - kind of like Nacho's. Ugh.

I'm glad it's over. I'll admit I watched every episode, more or less. (I ff through alot!).
I mean, really, Jose trying to escape with the Julieta and the kidnapped baby just doesn't know which road to take?? I doubt they got more than 20 miles anyhow!
And they offer no resistance when blockaded? LAME,LAME,LAME.

At least there were quite a few guapos in the show, and many actors/actresses I hadn't seen before and enjoyed.

I'll probably skip "Flor.." - I'm sick of novelas with the main character a prostitute. I wish every actress on earth would refuse those roles. Maybe then we'd get more creative writing for women's roles.
 

HEREDEROS

I meant Jose didn't know what road (not the baby) - if that wasn't clear. :)
 

HEREDEROS:
Novelera: There is a picture of Johnny, Consuelo and the baby on the Herederos forum of Telenovela World. It was posted by deb and is pretty easy to spot. Cute baby.
 

HEREDEROS

Thanks, Jean, for alerting me to the photo on Telenovela World. It was a very cute photo. I have always liked the actor portraying Johnny. He was great in his scenes where he finds out Consuelo was raped and tells her the truth about his inability to father children. I kept expecting there'd be a miracle and the kid would be his, but no.
 

Los Herederos del Monte

Hi Jean!

btw, if you would ever want to just repost any of the pics I post at TW, here, I would actually be honored, well, they really belong to Telemundo anyway.

I don't post much here because I don't have english captions and I don't speak spanish, so what I would have to say would be mostly a guess. But I read everyones posts here everyday and I am very greatful for them. I love you guys! Plus the time that you (Jean) put in on La Traicion and Dona Barbara, wow, I am forever in your debt.
...................................

Flor Salvaje

as far as I know Telemundo has not released a date when this will be shown. The latest rumors, from Indhira Serrano twitter, http://twitter.com/#!/IndhiraSerrano, are saying august. I was going to skip this one, but, now I think it might be worth a look. I wrote up what I have found here,
http://foro.telenovela-world.com/n4/read-t.php?f=787&i=24587&t=24511#reply_24587

thanks again Jean!
 

LA CASA - Friday

Last night was interesting --because we now know from Ignacia's sleuthing and Lida's confirmation that that there are 3 brothers - although I'm not sure they're triplets.

Some new developments: Javier gets his old job back and Rebecca is out of the office, but brought in by Don R. to do some sleuthing. It seems as though Eva might have a lover, because she is making a clandestine appointment. (Please Writers, please don't make her lover Javier!! How many women can he be servicing, including the hookers he frequents?)I am thinking that somehow Eva's lover will connect with the Igor Mora family. We also learned that although Ignacia seems upset about Gonzalo's attentions to Pilar and that he called her Pilar by mistake when they were kissing, she is realy crying crocodile tears, and doesn't care about him. And now about Pilar -- I think our psychologist is pretty close to a total nervous breakdown now that even Carola has rejected her and pointed out what everyone else knows about her and her relationship with Javier.

Good for Hilda --who packed her bag and left. Emilio's inability to pay her the slightest attention because he is so hooked into the Conde family makes him deserve it. She seems to be the only healthy person. Yolanda is a bit less likeable now, and Karen has wormed her way back to Pilar's house.

In the coming attractions we are getting a new character. Renato Conde has brought in the guy who played the cop in DONDE ESTA ELISA? Jose Luis Pila - or something like that. Maybe he is Eva's lover. Or the third brother --if he's not a triplet. (I think it would be funny if Gonzalo turns out to be the third brother --except that there is nothing in his behavior to indicate that).

Finally, I'm not sure, but I think when Ignacia saw the film of Emilio and Gonzalo digging up Adolfo, she realized it wasn't him because of a scar???? Did I understand that correctly.
 

HEREDEROS -- Final Remarks

I hate to say this but Aurora had a better finale than this. There was no suspense and there was inadequate time to resolve a number of issues on the way to the end of the story.

If you're going to do a kidnap story, you need to start earlier. You also need to provide an opportunity for the hero to live up to that title. The whole thing fell flat.

Gaspar's personality change after the wedding was inadequately explained and inadequately handled to get him back to being a normal person.

Miguel and Rosa visiting Julieta in the prison was badly handled. The actor playing Miguel still sounded like a clown when asking about Julieta's obsession with Juan when that moment should have been ultra-serious.

The helicopter thing at the end was a cheap fake-out. I agree with an earlier post that it could have been interestin to leave it at that moment, but who needs a sequal to this series?

Finally, I'm sure Marlene Favela felt cheated out of the bridal gown.
 

LA CASA DE AL LADO – viernes

NJ Sue, thanks for getting the discussion going with your excellent summary.

Did Ignacia say something about a scar when she looking at the video of Adolfo’s open grave? I missed that completely.

About the identity of the man in the wheelchair – it was interesting that when Lidia saw him, she blurted out: That’s NOT Leonardo! She DIDN’T say: That’s Adolfo!

Could Gonzalo be – if not the third brother – in cahoots with the brothers Acosta? He shows up on the Conde doorstep just after Adolfo’s death. Nobody knows anything about his past. He has every reason to walk away from this malevolent bunch, including his unstable and habitually unfaithful wife and yet there he is still living in the house. He is close enough to Leonardo’s room to pick up on his suspicious comings and goings and yet he never does. He allies himself with the enemy, as far as the Acosta boys are concerned, and yet he has never been an object of their attacks.


GENERAL

When I was watching El Clon, I was struck by the fact that the main characters seemed like Anglos speaking Spanish. That is, they had no cultural links to the Latino world.

In my experience, Spanish-speaking Latinos in this country hold on to their regional roots. They are, like almost all of us in this land of immigrants, hyphenated Americans: Mexican-, Colombian-, Cuban-, Dominican- , etc. But in this and in other Miami-based stories, the actors work hard to achieve a neutral spoken Spanish that can’t be identified with any particular region. Only minor characters (in this case, Hilda and Nibaldo) have story lines leading back to a specific country. Nothing in the way they dress or choose to decorate their homes, nothing in the cars they drive – nothing at all, really, leads us back to their Latino roots.

So who cares, right? Well, consider the fact that the adult Conde children live in their parents’ house and even bring their spouses to live there; that Emilio is reluctant to leave the house for Hilda’s sake; and that Eva is allowed to get away with swanning over everyone (even if, in the end, everyone ignores her). From a Latino perspective, this is all perfectly normal and acceptable. From an Anglo perspective, it is, to say the least, neurotic.

A Latino family living in the Anglo world would be expected to show some generational conflicts as the children struggle to fit in with the dominant culture and the parents hold on to a different set of norms and values. That doesn’t seem to be the case here.

So I repeat: Anglos who just happen to speak Spanish. Maybe that’s Telemundo’s unspoken formula for reaching second and third generation Hispanics, especially when you throw in readily-available English closed captioning.

But it’s also what keeps me going back to RCN and Televisa productions where stories are populated by authentically Colombian and Mexican characters and perspectives. I like the Telemundo shows very much but at times they feel so ... ungrounded.
 

HEREDEROS -

I agree, one of the worst gran finales ever. Most of my observations have been covered (the black wig, the horses in the ridiculous chase, the absence of ANY personnel in that hospital). But I do want to thank the people, Jean and others, who have helped with summaries, so that even while I didn't watch this show faithfully, I was able to keep up with the characters and plot developments. Thank you.

Maybe Decisiones Extremas will only be on for 3 or 4 weeks, like a miniseries, and then they'll go to Flor Salvaje.
 

MI CORAZON INSISTE:

Excellent summary, Novelera. As for what Exportex is doing, I got the impression that they do a variety of illegal smuggling. The latest job is for some substances that do something with drugs. But I think the trafficking in women is still one of their specialties.

As for Adelita, I felt that she was just drunk, and slept with the guy because she was too drunk to know what she was doing. He had assumed she was a prostitute, and left her money. She realized that in a way, she WAS acting like a prostitute (though not intentionally), and I hope this wakes her up to her lack of caution. I might be wrong, and maybe it was a date rape drug, but I didn't see him slip anything in her drink. He just asked if she wanted another martini, and she agreed.

But doesn't it seem frustrating that almost all the rich guys are pigs, and the poor guys are nice? Of course Andres is nice, but in general, it's almost as if the writers are saying to Adelita, don't try to meet a rich guy, because they're all bad. In real life, there are plenty of nice rich guys who would treat Adela like a princess. But not in this show.
 

LA CASA DE AL LADO:

Great comments, NJ Sue and NovelaMaven. After Gonzalo and Ignacia had their little argument, the camera first showed up Gonzalo's face, later Ignacia's. I though Gonzalo was going to smile, thus giving away that he's doing something sneaky. But he had no change. Ignacia, though, DID have a little sneaky smile, so she has to be hiding something. I'm sure she knows who "killed Adolfo", although it probably wasn't Adolfo who was killed.

And Gonzalo? Yes, I could see him secretly being in with Adolfo and crew. Unlike every other character, he never has ANY interaction with "Leonardo", so maybe he's working with him.

And at least we now know there were 3 brothers, but that's right, we don't know for sure they were triplets.

I still think Leo/Adolfo's plan is to kill various people in both families, and have the Condes and Ruiz's blame each other.

It should be interesting to see who the new guy is, and who Eva's mystery person is (maybe they're the same).
 

GENERAL:

NovelaMaven, good point about how the Telemundo dramas have very little to do with Latino culture. I think you're right. La Casa isn't too different from Dallas, just that they all speak in Spanish (except Karen :)

I'm glad that there are a variety of types of telenovelas, from the historical dramas, to the smaltzy, predictable Univision shows, to the edgy Colombian shows. Although my original reason to watch these shows was to improve my Spanish, I was getting bored with the ones on Univision, and was happy to find some differences on the other networks.
 

LA CASA
Novelamaven: I think I was away when lidia saw Leonardo and said, "That's not Leonardo." I would still like to know whether Leonardo was disabled before or after the Adolfo "murder." Do you know?
I think your comments are "right on" about the lack of an ethnic feeling in this, and also in ALGUIEN and DONDE ESTA ELISA? which were the other two i watched. Sometimes it is funny how in a court scene, for example, they will start off with a litle English and then the judge switches to English. Or how some characters throw in some English phrases. You are probably right about Telemundo's trying to get a younger, more Latino/American viewer. I can't see how younger latino/Americans would enjoy TDF or the Televisa throwbacks. But in any case, I am happy to have something that's not ridiculous and can improve my Spanish comprehension (forget about speaking!!!) I was so proud when the "old" Mexican manicurist I go to told the new one that I understood Spanish.

Hombre, it seems like we're in agreement about Gonzalo. Maybe he, the new guy, and "Leonardo" are in it to ruin the Conde/Ruiz families.I think it's interesting how they never present any back story or any info about Gonzalo, except what we see him doing. By the way, do you hear Ignacia say it was not Adolfo because of the "cicatriz?" Perhaps I misunderstood, but when I heard the word i was surprised that I understood it's meaning (scar).

It will be interesting to see what this week brings.
 

LA CASA

NJ Sue, You asked:
Was Leonardo disabled before or after Adolfo's "murder"?

Actually, the guy in the wheelchair is just faking a disability. That's one reason some of us suspect HE is Adolfo.

Is that what you are asking?

There WAS someone who looked like "Leonardo" treated at a clinic under the name of "Ivan". Nurse Teresa was murdered when she tried to steal his records for Carola. Was Ivan a separate person? Was he truly disabled? Was he perhaps the person killed and buried in Adolfo's grave? Maybe, but we don't know.

We saw Lidia, a young woman who supposedly knew the brothers Acosta intimately, say with great certainty that the man in the wheelchair was not Leonardo. And then we saw Lidia run over by a car we think was driven by one of the Acosta boys.

Hombre, I'm grateful for the variety too. As for the Colombian novelas, some are indeed edgy; but others are gentle comedies (Like Nuevo Rico, Nuevo Pobre or Betty la Fea); and then there's the brilliant historical novel now being aired: La Pola.

Until recently, the only Spanish language channel I had access to was Univisión which airs Mexican shows almost exclusively. So I was very excited to discover the wide world beyond Televisa :)
 

NJ Sue:

I don't think they've ever told us this directly, but to me, it's been implied that Leonardo was ALWAYS disabled, that one twin was completely mobile and the other wasn't, from birth. There have been various conversations about taking care of Leonardo, some seeming to go back pretty far. As far as I know, there's been no hint that any event caused the disability of Leonardo.

As for Ignacia saying there was a scar, what I heard was that Adolfo gave LYDIA that scar (on Lydia). He probably slashed her face a few years back. I didn't hear Ignacia say one of the twins had a scar. But I could easily have missed it. And I've been wrong on many, many things. Oh well :) We'll see.
 

GENERAL

NovelaMaven - again, I agree with you about Telemundo novelas being 'Anglo.' in past postings/comments, I would always say 'Americanized.' it's actually one of the reasons I enjoy them. they're not cut from the same cloth as Univision's, where there's always heavy, heavy drama, crying. I guess coming from a culture like that, like I did, ughh... I prefer a little civility/ sophistication.
 

GENERAL

I have some issues with Telemundo productions, but these are the biggest ones:

"Americanization" -- It's not done properly because there are key elements missing. Nobody appears to have Anglo friends, romantic partners, or colleagues. There should be social situations involving Anglos, as the more educated and wealthier Hispanics would have Anglos in their social circle.

This would also involve some use of English. If Telemundo wants to get a younger audience this would not offend them.

Courtroom action in Spanish. This would not happen in any US city. If this is too difficult to handle, don't bother with trial scenes.

Actors who talk too fast. I don't have CC because my TV set is about a year too old for it.

Somewhat OT:

I've been watching about 8 series for a while and I have to cut back. I won't be watching Flor Salvaje and when FELS ends its current rerun showing I won't be tuning in to its replacement (I watch this one if I'm home; I've seen it before). I'm a week behind on both CASA and Alborada. When the latter is over I will resist its replacement.

I have to keep up with Hombres de Honor because Latele shows 7 episodes per week instead of 5. I wish you guys could see that one. It has about 4 weeks left by my current calculations.
 

HEREDEROS -

All I can say is "what was that". The posts on this board are more inspiring than the final episode. Now I'm glad I was talked into seeing Harry Potter (with all those co-workers screaming kids), I think I would have been kicking myself.

I record Zacatillo so I think instead of saving up the recordings for saturday mornings, I will now have time to start seeing them in the evening. Someone posted about prostitute telenovelas - I have to agree am tired of those and of drug smuggling innocents.

On Herederos, I wonder what would have happened if they had kept Julieta sane and the conflict for Juan would have been something to watch. I hope one day the writers will explain the Gaspar situation, that was a big fat zero and made no sense at all.

It felt like the actor portraying Julieta's father just gave up, and couldn't bear to utter his final lines.

Corazon

Wow, cute hostess, drinks with customers, next thing wakes up, wonders where she's at, finds a note, and finds money. Who would have thunk it? Please do not let this novela sink into cliches. What will be next for her - either she's pregnant, or has a disease?

Hate to say it but I'm glad Soledad was kidnapped, I prefer Sofia.
 

GENERAL

Interesting discussion about the "Americanization" of Telemundo's novelas. This doesn't bother me at all.

There is a tiny bit of English spoken. In Más Sabe el Diablo, Jencarlos' character spoke English on quite a few occasions. Of course, he's American born and has a perfect accent in English so maybe that's why they wrote his role that way.

Of course, I've noticed that courtrooms, hotels, etc., all have Spanish speaking people that the characters address. I guess I just suspend disbelief about that. People who are tuning in to Spanish language television are doing it because they prefer that. Either Spanish is their more comfortable language or they're like those of us here who want to polish our Spanish and add vocabulary.

I don't think it would make sense for the characters to speak English a lot, even though they show them living in LA, Chicago, Miami, NYC. People are tuned to Telemundo to hear Spanish language programming, even if it seems unrealistic at times.

Right now I'm only watching Telemundo because I was very tired of the same old, same old on Univisión. There's usually a poor girl, often dark haired, who becomes involved with a rich family. There's an evil blonde antagonist. The poor girl ALWAYS gets pregnant. And on and on.
 

GENERAL

Novelera, I agree with every word you wrote. Unlike Urban, I'm not bothered at all by courtroom scenes in English (although I am confused by the muddled legal system they often portray -- If they are going to spend so much time in the judicial system, maybe it's time for Telemundo to spring for an American legal consultant.)

What I'm saying is that at times I feel confused about WHO these people are. Any fictional character comes with a set of background assumptions, sometimes explicit, sometimes not. We infer from certain cues -- among them, where they live, how they dress, how old they look, how they speak -- their world view. In the case of the Conde family, they look like an impossibly wealthy family of secular Protestants who vote a straight Republican ticket. They have three children who have coasted through life and are inappropriately stuck in a state of adolescent dependence on their parents.

But they are speaking Spanish. A "neutral" Latin American Spanish. We're not sure where they are from. We don't know what set of cultural assumptions they come with. Now most of the time that doesn't matter. But occasionally, at least for me, it does.

For example when you try to understand why the Conde children live with their parents and even bring their spouses home: Is that culturally appropriate or not? Well that depends on who these people are.

I'm just saying that not knowing who these people are makes me slightly uneasy. There is a dissonance, a disconnect between the way they sound and the way they live.

Anyway...just tell me it was written in English and translated into Spanish and I promise to shut up about it. :
 

CORAZON

Nellie - OMG!! i too prefer Sofia. lol!
 

GENERAL

I see what you mean, NovelaMaven. This is especially true of the Condes. They don't attend church of any kind. We don't see any ethnic habits or references at all. Since Renato's money comes from hotels, he could just as easily be named Hilton!

I wonder if the large Cuban population of Miami could have anything to do with how Latinos appear in Telemundo novelas. The ones who left Cuba after Fidel's government took power were the "elite". Many Cuban-Americans are fairly well off. Until recently, they received automatic green cards and a route to citizenship because of the historic negativity about the Castro government. If they got here on a raft, they were welcomed with open arms. Not having undocumented status has certainly made the lives of these immigrants easier. Just a wild speculation.
 

GENERAL

Novelera, That's an intriguing thought about a possible Cuban influence.

It would be fun to know what kind of guidelines the writers are given, you know, the Telemundo "Do's and Don't's" for aspiring scriptwriters.
 

GENERAL;
Interesting comments about the americanization of the Telemundo characters. I agree with all that has been written. Although there was the same kind of 'Americanization' in DONDE ESTA ELISA,there were more cultural resonances: extended family (The Condes seem to have no other family); a religious connection,(right about their seeming like republican Protestants)and the sense of keeping the nuclear family intact.the Condes pay lip service to this, but one wonders.
Last night, I watched Masterpiece Mystery on PBS- a British show about an Italian detective that takes place in Rome. It was acted by British actors with plummy accents and reminded me of what Telemundo does. (By the way, it is good, but there needs to be a lot of suspension of disbelief because of the Englishness of it all).

LA CASA: I know that Leonardo is not disabled. So obviously he is not Leonardo who as Hombre pointed out is always known to have been disabled --unless it was Ivan who was always disabled but called Leonardo. Somehow I am back to my initial theory that "Leonardo" is Adolfo; that the man who was "killed" was Leonardo/Ivan. (Maybe he was already dead when they decided to use the opportunity to push him off the balcony).

I also think that Hombre is right on about Gonzalo being involved. He always seems to appear at the "right" time. It seems that Ignacia didn't trust him. So why did she cave and give him the info about her mother, and then make him swear not to tell anyone what she was doing?

So now we know that Eva doesn't have a lover, but is involved in the Acosta plot. Somehow I don't think she's on their side though. (Do I remember correctly that she somehow was involved in taking Igor Mora down?)There are so many twists and turns in this plot that I can't remember the details that went before.
 

LA CASA -- lunes

Anyone else have a Stanley Kowalski moment at the sight of Javier in his undershirt?
 

MI CORAZON INSISTE - Lunes

¿Donde está Soledad? Rodrigo and the cops have very little to go on. He was asleep, heard nothing (he thinks that's strange, he's usually a light sleeper). They comb the waters in vain. The bottle of wine is missing, but what does that mean? Of course, WE know she was kidnapped. The only person who has a clue to who might harm Soledad is Sofía, who knows about Tiberio, but doesn't want to talk because of "patient confidentiality".

Everyone wants to help, from Apolo, to Andres, to Adelita (who doesn't want anyone to know about her embarrassing night).

Meanwhile, Débora's Dad Ramón loses about $600,000.00 in Vegas, and needs a quick infusion of cash from Marcelo to avoid being roughed up or worse. Dumb Ramón.

Marcelo wants to know just what cargo Tiberio is transporting this time (it's probably women). Tiberio warns him, if I tell you, you're locked in, and there's no turning back.

Fortunately, Débora's bleeding was no real problem, this can happen in the first trimester, and the baby's okay.

Lola is sure Soledad is alive, because she just "knows" these things, as she did with Chabela. There's a connection. Chabela points out that Lola doesn't even really know if Chabela is just in her head. Hmmmm.
 

LA CASA DE AL LADO - Lunes

NJ Sue, what we know about Eva is 1) She convinced Renato that Igor Mora was embezzling, which caused Renato to prosecute, which caused Igor Mora to lose everything (but which wasn't even true); 2) She "betrayed" Renato somehow years ago - no details on this; 3) she's been talking to someone on the phone. I'm not sure we know it wasn't an amante. She did turn up at Lydia's hospital bed, but how could she have been talking to Lydia, if Lydia couldn't talk? Eva, like everybody else, has lots of secrets.

Hilda's off for Mexico, with Emilio in hot pursuit.

Javier's being his usual pompous self. Pilar says things are going to change (yeah, right), and Diego sort of catches Javier almost kissing Rebeca.

Renato has a new brilliant plan (?) to trap Javier by hiring a younger, ambitious lawyer, whom Javier will take into his confidence, but who will really be working for Renato. This does not seem too wise to me.

Carola has moved out, now is living in Gonzalo's vacant bachelor pad. Can someone tell that girl to stop drinking? Everytime she does, we think Adolfo/Leo/Ivan has revealed himself, but it's always a dream!
 

DECISIÓNES EXTREMAS -

I watched this show, sort of. It doesn't seem like a novela, just a series of one episode vignettes about people making bad choices. And the young girl last night made tons of them. She wanted to get into a high school club, "The Chosen", and they had drinking, stripping, girls fighting in their underwear, taking pictures of her Mom undressed and posting them, sex, all culminating in stealing the teacher's care and driving at 180 kph. Of course the results were horrific. But I'm not sure this show will hold my interest. I think it'll only be on for a few weeks, until Flor Salvaje is "ready".
 

The teacher's CAR, not care!
 

DECISIONES EXTREMOS

I watched this as well, Hombre, after I had vowed not to!

It's pretty similar to Decisiones which has been running for years on Telemundo. I guess the Extremos part is meant that the plots involve more danger or maybe more sex. The virtue of Decisiones was that each one was a complete story by itself, so you could watch one once in a while and not get hooked!

It also looks like it's aimed at a younger audience, judging from the ubiquitous promos for next week's episode. That's it for me. The episode was just not that exciting for me.
 

MI CORAZÓN INSISTE - LUNES

Great recap of last night's show. It definitely took a turn toward being darker and less humorous and light last night.

Kudos to the actor playing Rodrigo. He was excellent in last night's episode. He really made me feel how awful it would be to wake up on a boat and find the person you loved gone. I also liked that Andrés gently shut down Debora's selfish griping and went straight to try to comfort his father.

It's pretty definite that Daniel and Vero are using drugs. Sofía zeroed in on their behavior, but Daniel was rude and sarcastic when she confronted him.

When Marcelo tried to reach Debora in the hospital, Andrés took her phone and told him to bug off and that it wouldn't do any good for him to pressure Debora. He's not selling the shares.

There was a bit of a funny part of the episode: Ramón with a hooker on each arm, gambling away his ill-gotten gains. Actually, I don't think any leg breakers are after him. He asked Marcelo for $160K because he might lose his house. He apparently put up the deed to his house to keep gambling. Can you really do this in Las Vegas?

Apolo is cycling rapidly between 100% jerk and maybe a guy who has some decency in him. He showed up, interrupting Andrés who was embracing Lola and comforting her in the police station. But then he snarked to Andrés that HE, Andrés was taking advantage of Soledad's disappearance to get closer to Lola. Andrés shut him up, and quick. But Apolo has paid for helicopters to search for Soledad, and appears very genuinely concerned for Lola. He also told Agapito he wanted to marry her!

I'm pretty sure the champagne was drugged, somehow. Because one of Tiberio's thugs showed up and had a talk with an employee at the harbor after Rod left. I think someone was bribed to put drugged wine there, although I don't know how you drug a bottle of champagne with the cork in there.

They've definitely softened Etelvina. She cried when she heard about Sole.

I don't like Rodrigo's boss. He's always thinking of appearances and trying to pull Rod off cases, despite his good career record. He did that when Lola was being accused of killing Rugeles.

It looks like there's going to be a container of women coming from Panama. Tiberio's thug shows up and tells Marcelo and Ramón they have to cover this with a legit shipment. Not sure how that would work, but oh well. Tiberio himself tells Marcelo he has to do it.

They told us Soledad was dead, but somehow I think it's a red herring.
 

LA CASA DE AL LADO – martes

Eva claims she was following Ignacia and knows nothing about the clinic. Everyone in the house but Renato knows about her secret friend. Even Gonzalo defends himself by throwing her “secret lover” in her face. She counterattacks by calling him a social climber who married Ignacia for her money. Is this true?

Yolanda seems to know Eva’s actual secret. It most likely has nothing to do with the trillizos.

Meanwhile, Lidia’s family has moved her out of harm’s way.

Ignacia consults a fortune-teller. The Tarot reading predicts her death at the hands of a dangerous man, very close to her -- is he a twin? -- who both loves and hates her.

Pilar’s second therapy session with Carola is rudely interrupted by the increasingly insoportable Ignacia. (Is there anyone that Ignacia has NOT offended?)

Leonardo spies on the household and has stealthy phone conversations about carrying out his plan to murder the family one by one. He holds a Spanish translation of the Agatha Christie classic, And Then There Were None. Seriously? He’s using Agatha to plot his murders?

Later, when Yolanda is tucking Leonardo into bed, she stubs her toe on the hefty book just under the bed. She’s so intrigued, she takes it down to the kitchen and becomes engrossed in the story. Ignacia, whose bad conscience and fears are keeping her awake, finds her there and in her usual obnoxious fashion, snatches away the book before Yolanda can find out who done it.

Jorge Luis Pila, as Javier’s new assistant and Renato’s trojan horse, smiles a sharky smile which Javier returns. I wouldn’t buy a used car from either of these guys. New guy puts the moves on Rebeca but she shoots him down: he’s not her type.

Karen – who just can’t seem to help herself -- makes a point of telling Javier that Gonzalo was in the house talking to Pilar. For some time.

Emilio catches up with Hilda in Zacatecas and persuades her to return to Miami with him. Renato is so thrilled at the news, he throws a party. Since he has no friends, he invites his enemies, the familia Ruiz.

Javier sees Pilar getting ready for the Conde party in a pink, boobs-on-a-platter dress and orders her to change.

New guy shows up at the Conde party and he and Eva are impactados when Renato introduces them. Is new guy Eva’s secret?
 

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NovelaMaven, you had me laughing out loud with your recap, especially the part about Renato having no friends, so he invites his enemies!

My wild guess on the new guy, Matias, is that he's Eva's son.

It's so hard to tell the "real" fortune tellers from the frauds. In several recent shows, we had fraud fortune tellers. But I think the lady last night was supposed to be real, so she really could predict Ignacia's future. Of course the card of Death could be someone else's death, and she didn't mention triplets, just twins. Hasn't she been watching the last few episodes? :)
 

MI CORAZON INSISTE - Martes

Turns out that Rodrigo IS a super cop, like CSI. He remembers the CUP from which he drank the champagne, and sure enough, it had sleeping pill residue. And when confronted with a body that has no teeth, hands or feet, making ID very difficult, he does a quick DNA test, and finds that lady was NOT Soledad. His reward for this police work? You're off the case, says his mean boss, Mario (I think that's his name). So Rodrigo turns in his placa (badge) and will keep up the case on his own.

He suspects (correctly) that Soledad was kidnapped. Sofia grudgingly plays him a tape from Soledad's sessions, naming Tiberio as the guy she fears (and as we know, he also wants revenge for her pouring acid on his face). Rod won't tell Lola, but he's going after the guy.

Debora was very insensitive to Soledad's "death", further alienating Andres.

Ramon now lives in their house (the house with Andres, Debora, Vicki and also Daniel and Sofia, I think), having lost his at the gaming table.

At the other house, we have Lola, Adelita, Pepe, Etelvina, Rosa Francia and of course Chabela.

Apolo is still in LA, working the press, but at least halfway sincere in wanting to help Lola.

At the end of the episode, Marcelo found out just what cargo evil Tiberio wanted him to transport - a bound, gagged and bleeding Soledad!
 

MI CORAZÓN INSISTE - MARTES

Excellent recap, Hombre.

I KNEW Sole wasn't dead. For one thing, this novela has a light, often funny vibe to it. Killing her off would not have been in keeping with that.

Daniel is living with Tía Sofía in the former Marcelo Santacruz house.

I loved it when Rodrigo slapped Apolo down on his wish to go along to view the body, telling him it was not a "circo".

Hombre, I also thought Deb put a foot wrong with her insensitivity to Soledad's body supposedly being found.

I was glad Andrés put his foot down about Ramon living there. The guy is 100% scum. He grins and gloats when Andrés loses control of HIS MOTHER'S family business, and then expects to move in with his yerno!

Apolo has the cojones to tell the press there will be a press conference later about the situation with Soledad. I wouldn't mind someone throwing some acid at him!

That boss Mario is right out of a standard plot of many US cop movies and TV shows. The hero is a rebellious super sleuth, and his boss is a careerist, constantly getting in the way of the crime being solved.
 

LA CASA-Tuesday
Hombre; Thanks for your summary of what we know about Eva. Interesting supposition that Matias might be her son. I didn't think Matias looked impactada when she came down the stair. She was the one who dropped her glass in shock.

Am suffering with a summer virus, so i'll comment another time.
 

HEREDEROS
Sorry, late to the party, but I just found this discussion site. Does anyone know:
Who kidnapped Emilio the first time? And why? Who was in his grave at the Arboleda? Where did Lucas' puppy go? Where did Juan's giant wolf dog go (first two episodes)?
Meanwhile I will be following along with Mi Corazon...
Cheers!
J in Oregon
 

Welcome J in Oregon! Good questions that we would ask the writers if we had a chance. It was never explained whether anyone, besides Gustavo, kidnapped Emilio or why he was kidnapped in the first place. Maybe Gustavo wanted to get a hold of Paula's share of the inheritance and didn't have the cojones to kill Emilio.

Who might have been buried in Emilio's grave or how the wrong person could have been buried was never explained or even raised.

Dogs came and went without any explanation. Juan's dog might have been Mario Cimarro's dog but the Lucas' puppy story disappeared without a trace.

Just more evidence of the sloppy writing on this show. Have fun with Mi Corazon.
 

MI CORAZON INSISTE - Miércoles

Rodrigo's boss Mario is moved at Soledad's funeral, and reinstates him. Rod says we have to check containers from Panama. The cops go to check, but are just too late, as someone in customs tipped off Tiberio, who had his henchmen move Soledad. Correa, the cop we don't like, might also be involved.

Marcelo wants to kill Soledad, because she recognized him and Ramón, but Tiberio says HE wants to kill Soledad, with his own hands, VERY SLOWLY! Veronica overhears Marcelo and Ramón, and now can use this tidbit to get somewhere with Daniel (who is pretty drugged out at this point).

It looks as if Sofía will sell her stock to Andrés, which should help him fight Marcelo and Ramón.

Adelita is being charmed by some guy with a gold tooth who promises lots of money, jewels, etc. Could he be a front man for Tiberio's slavery ring, and they're trying to get Adelita into it?

Meanwhile, Apolo's losing endorsements, due to the gay thing, and Vicki begs Lola to have pity on Débora and the baby. So, to solve everything, Lola proclaims she WILL marry Apolo, cuanto antes!
 

LA CASA DE AL LADO – miércoles

The Conde’s sure know how to throw a party. Not.

Eva orders sharky New Guy to leave and tells him to quit his new job. Guess what? He ignores her.

Renato embraces the newlyweds. Eva sneers to New Guy that Hilda isn’t part of the family.

Hilda shows her claws. Emilio is mine, she says, and when we move to our new place, Eva won’t see her son unless she gets on her knees to beg Hilda’s forgiveness.

Javier and Ignacia tug on the leashes of their respective spouses when they appear to be sniffing around one another.

Carola sits alone and broods.

Upstairs, Leonardo prepares for a night-time foray, first locking his door and leaving rolled-up bedding under his blanket to suggest a human form. (Or so I assume. For all I know, there’s a tag team of Leonardo’s.)

Over at the Ruiz house, Karen and the kids come downstairs to find that someone has painted – in large, bold letters -- the word “Asesino” on the wall.

Gonzalo steps outside the stifling Conde house and sees or hears someone. Who’s there? he calls out. And then he goes off in pursuit.

Inside, people are disappearing. No one knows where Eva, Javier, Ignacia or Gonzalo have gone.

The lights go out. A shot rings out. Renato and Nibaldo (I think. Can’t remember exactly) follow the direction of the sound to Ignacia’s studio. And there she stands, smoking gun in hand over Gonzalo’s supine, bleeding body. He’s dead!

They are followed by new guy, Javier and Emilio (with camera, of course). Ignacia is waving the gun in the air until Renato finally convinces her to drop it. Renato orders Javier to wipe the apparent murder weapon clean. Javier looks at him as if he had been asked to wipe an apparent murder weapon clean. But New Guy doesn’t hesitate to follow the boss’s order.

The word reaches the big house – Gonzalo is dead! Nooooooo! Pilar nearly collapses. The Ruiz women head home.

Renato calls 911 and announces self-righteously that the shooting will be investigated thoroughly, wherever that investigation may lead.

The next morning, Pilar learns the news of Gonzalo’s death has been greatly exaggerated. When she tries to see him in the hospital, Gonzalo’s “black widow”, Ignacia, stakes her claim and sends Pilar away in tears.

New Guy’s show of willingness to follow orders has earned him major cred with Javier.

So was Gonzalo collateral damage in the war of the gang who couldn’t shoot straight?

Is New Guy Eva’s son, as Hombre suggested yesterday?

Were there two bad guys loose last night, one leaving accusatory messages in the Ruiz house and the other out for target practice?
 

LA CASA DE AL LADO - Miércoles

Agatha Christie's story, And then there were none, is also called Ten Little Indians. Although the book jacket on the show said Y Quedo Ningun (something like that), the translation on Amazon is Diez Negritos. I bet they changed it due to political correctness. But the show is really starting to resemble the story.

You've got your big party, to celebrate the return of Hilda and Emilio. Just in the middle of the (somewhat tense) celebration, the lights go out. A shot is heard. Renato goes to Ignacia's workshop, and she's standing over Gonzalo's body, a gun in her hand!

Turns out he wasn't dead, but he's in grave condition. When the lights went out, I noticed that Eva, Gonzalo, Ignacia and Javier were not in the living room. Renato announces that one of the people at the party must be the culprit!

But we know that Leo/Adolfo was not in his little bed. And that the word "assassin" also appeared written in huge red letters on Pilar's wall. And that Leo/Adolfo had a smug smile on his chiseled face as he slipped back under the covers. Oh what a night!
 

LA CASA DE AL LADO

Hombre, I just found this site where you can download a free PDF of Diez Negritos:

http://literatura.itematika.com/descargar/libro/66/diez-negritos.html

I guess the text is in the public domain now.
 

MI CORAZÓN INSISTE

Thanks, Hombre, for your recap. Lots happened last night.

Verónica listening to Marcelo and Ramon discussing their involvement with drug lords might pay off, but certainly not in the short term. In the near term it only moved her to push Daniel for marriage because she thinks his papí is going to be muy, muy rico. Ms. V definitely has zero morals.

Interesting that Pepe was standing up at the "funeral". Looked perfectly fine and the last time we saw him try it he was very shaky.

Oh how I wanted someone to slap Debora's face when she kept rolling her eyes at everything that happened at Soledad's "funeral", including Lola's very moving remarks.

Correa had Rod's office all scoped out and was disgusted to find out that Rod had his job back. Actually, the person in the aduana (customs office) is a crooked contact of Marcelo's, not Tiberio's. But Tiberio was alerted to the fact that all Panamanian embarkations were being checked and sent his thugs in the nick of time.

I LOVED the scene where Andrés tells Ramon off, but good. He accuses him of being part of Lola being framed and sent to jail. He calls him a thief. He tells him he's just a pawn for Marcelo and he throws him out over Debora's objections.

The scene with Vicki asking Lola to back off was well acted, but it turned out it was Debora's plan all along. She knows Lola has a kind heart and would fall for it.

It might be an interesting plot development, but I don't think the guy trying to get Adelita into prostitution (Boy Mercado!) is part of Tiberio's crew. The prosti that was murdered early on said that the women came from all over Latin America. Adela appears to have been born in the US.

I'll really be disgusted if Lola actually marries Apolo. The guy is a big-time jerk, and they already went to the well with that keep-the-novios-apart gambit.
 

LA CASA

Slight correction to the above: The text of "Diez negritos" is in the public domain in Argentina, according to the PDF I found. The law may not be the same in the US which would explain why there don't seem to be any free English versions online.
 

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NovelaMaven, thanks for the link to the pdf, whether it's in the public domain or not. That site also had radio stations in Spanish and other things that will help my Spanish learning.

Also thanks for all the details you provided. BTW, the new guy is Matias. And he thinks he's got it made in trapping Javier. But Rebeca is already questioning Eva about her relationship with Matias, and I have a feeling things will be just as mixed up for him as they are for everyone else.

And yes, there were AT LEAST 2 guys roaming around last night!
 

MI CORAZON:

Novelera, thanks for clarifying. I sometimes only half listen, and gloss over things when I post, so your extra level of detail is very welcome.
 

LA CASA

De nada, Hombre. I was so excited about finding the PDF that I hardly paid any attention to all the other riches on that site. You're right -- lots of goodies, including a whole bunch of other books.

About Matias, who knows what his agenda is? Nothing is as it seems... :)

By the way, my nomination for funniest scene last night was Ignacia waving the gun around and Renato ducking and bobbing while trying to get her to drop it. I'm impressed that the actors were able to keep a straight face.
 

Novelera

Have to 100% agree with you on the scene when Andres tells Ramon off - I did not expect that to happen and boy was I glad it did.

While I know Vicki went to Lola on Deborah's orders, I still saw a bit of a twinge of regret on Vicke's face from Deborah's glee.

How much longer is Veronica going to live?

Will there be a romantic pairing of Etelvina and Pepe?

I hope telemundo is not going to mess this novela up by having Lola marry again, it just does not make sense.
 

LA CASA - MIÉRCOLES

Rats! I'm probably hooked on this. I just haven't felt much like commenting about it.

I will say that there are more red herrings in this than in the Atlantic Ocean.
 

LA CASA - Wednesday

Given the way Eva talks to her kids who always ignore her, I would say that Matias is her son. She talks to him the same way; he ignores her the same way. And there are no sexual vibes between them. Maybe that is the secret Yolanda is protecting. And it's intresting that she's loyal to Eva, given the fact that Eva would not get rid of Karen when Yolanda begged her to....

I am always amazed when the acting on telenovelas are good. Jorge Luis Pila is a totally different character than the brooding, dark cop on DONDE ESTA ELISA? He even looks 10 years younger. The only other time I ever saw Miguel Varoni was in the film LADRON QUE ROBA UN LADRON, and his acting was so understated as he played a senstive, good crook. By the way, NovelaM., I also thought of Stanley Kowalski when I saw him in his undershirt. We seem to have the same cultural references.

Re last night's event: I am thinking that Javier shot Gonzalo and Leonardo wrote "Asesino" on the wall of the Ruiz house.
 

LA CASA - Thursday
I just saw my last comment, and realized how wrong I was. I was quite shocked that Matias is Eva's
(somewhat recalcitrant, it would seem)amante. And young amante, at that. I'm back to thinking he must be the third brother and getting revenge by this affair...

And as Novelera says, there are more red herrings in this...so now I am wondering whether Adolfo's lighter is another red herring, or whether it was Leonardo/Adolfo who tried to kill Ignacia and got Gonzalo instead. Then who wrote "asesino" on the wall?

I thought it was funny that when Pilar accused Javier of shooting Gonzalo, he said (laughing) that someone got there before he did.

Well although I still don't like any of the characters, I am hooked on the whodunnit aspects.
 

MI CORAZON INSISTE - Jueves

One thing leads to another. After Andres chastises Marcelo for allowing Daniel to be a druggie, Marcelo gets rough with Veronica. He slaps her, saying I told you to give him a good time, not get him hooked on drugs! He fires her from the company, and doesn't ever want to see her around him or Danny again.

She's not happy about this, and follows him to the shipyard, where she sees him grilling Soledad (!), what's your connection to Tiberio?! Sole is defiant, and now realizes Marcelo's working with Tiberio, to enslave women (which Marcelo denies).

Veronica doesn't exactly save Soledad, but she tells Vicky and Debora about her, which should start things rolling.

Just about no one approves of Lola's wedding (at the justice of the peace, Lola wearing a tight, short mauve dress, her hair also tightly wrapped), and I think only Pepe went. But Andres shows up, begging Lola not to do it. The judge asks do you accept Apolo as your husband, and Lola hedges, hedges, and we'll see her answer tonight (I think she'll say yes, unless someone bursts in with news of Soledad).

BTW, in her car, Lola put on her seatbelt, but Chabela didn't. What kind of example is that to set for other young ghosts who might be watching? :)
 

LA CASA DE AL LADO - Jueves

NJ Sue, I was also shocked that Eva DOES have an amante, and it's Matias! He apparently couldn't "function", she wonders if he's got another lady on his mind (he does - Rebeca).

The lighter does make it look as if Leo/Adolfo shot at Ignacia. But I STILL think Gonzo could be working with him, and actually took a bullet to preserve the illusion that he's not connected with Leo/Adolfo. Or maybe he's fallen for Ignacia despite the plan. Or maybe he has nothing to do with Leo/Adolfo, and I'm barking up the wrong tree!

As for who wrote asesino, I'm stumped, although maybe Leo/Adolfo could have written that first, then gone back and knocked out the lights, then gone to shoot Ignacia...

It's funny that Nibaldo is totally loyal to Renato and his wife Yolanda is totally loyal to Eva. She knew about the affair, but didn't tell Nibaldo, but he's working on discovering it. Renato is not a happy camper at this point.

I also think Matias is way too overconfident, and that Javier, while generally a dunce, might realize it's all a setup.

DECISIONES EXTREMAS: Our little Hilda was the star last night, playing a split personality, one of which was VERY different from her chaste character on Casa! She was both Claudia, a sexy prostitute who got pregnant and tried a home abortion; and Julieta, a typical nice teenager. But neither one knew about the other personality. I think they announced Flor Salvaje starts Aug. 2nd, so that'll be it for these decisiones.
 

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More observations: The fortune teller must be real, she really scared those neighborhood kids, and that plastic necklace definitely has the correct mojo to protect Ignacia.

It was funny how Pilar, the therapist, was so screwed up that she went to alkie/druggie Carola for support. Carola said she wasn't licensed or anything, but she'd try to help!

I also like the brother/sister sleuth team of Emilio and Carola, sort of like the Hardy Boys and Nancy Drew.

I love this show!
 

LA CASA DE AL LADO -- jueves

Thanks Hombre and NJ Sue for the great comments. I was on the fence for a long while but now I am officially smitten too.

Anyone want to bet that the bruja is the next victim? Leo/Adolfo/Ivan has to kill her before she reveals the "truth" to Ignacia.

(I'm also hooked on the Spanish language Agatha Christie. Ha!)
 

MI CORAZÓN INSISTE

Thanks, Hombre, great recapette and LOVED the bad example to younger ghosts comment!

I really think the actor portraying Apolo is doing an excellent job. He has great comic timing. And he's portraying clueless very well. When Lola agrees to marry him, he talks only about how this will drive Jenny nuts and how his fans will react.

Andrés tells Lola if she does this, he'll never pursue her again. And moves back into Debora's bedroom.

Marcelo is worried about Andrés suing him for embezzling company funds and tells Ramón to get some of his "contacts" to get rid of the two witnesses, an accountant, I think, and maybe the IT guy.

After leaving Marcelo, Andrés goes right to Rodrigo and tells him he wants to change his name to Rod's. Another excellent acting moment as Rod looks choked up and near tears. Andrés' new surname will be Suarez.

I'm pleased that Soledad is being so tough. She hasn't gone back into her shell. She tells Marcelo to tell Tiberio she doesn't fear him any more. I thought the thug she said this to had some respect for her in his eyes.

Andrés had a good point when he told her she's chosen all the times they've been separated. After a visit from Andrés' mother, she agreed to refuse to see Andrés while she was in prison. She stayed with Rugeles when he was willing to leave Debora (before the pregnancy). She has now done the exact same thing, listened to a mother plead for her to give up the love of her life - and does it.

Apolo tells Andrés outside Lola's house that he won. And smirks about having her in his bed. Andrés threatens him if he ever puts a finger on her.

Verónica is a constant disappointment. She overhears the conversation about enslaving women and all she does is tell Debora, who doesn't seem like the type to me to try to help Soledad.

I wonder if another way of stopping the wedding could be Etelvina rushing in with the letter from the IRS that Apolo is about to be jailed for income tax evasion. While Agapito was in the process of re-decorating Lola's living room, mostly with large photos of Apolo, he apparently dropped a letter about that.
 

LA CASA - JUEVES

I think I might actually like this novela if it weren't for the portrayal of the relationship between Javier and Pilar. It drives me insane. At one point she supposedly got a backbone and said she was leaving if he did not. She scared the crap out of him. Now she's wimping out again. She lets him drag her out of the clinic by force and bully her into
going home with him. Why the #$^& didn't she dig in her heels and start screaming right there in front of everyone? Mr. Important Corporate Lawyer would have backed off fast.
 

LA CASA -- jueves

Novelera, Excellent point about Pilar and Javier. I personally only started enjoying this novela -- really enjoying it -- when I stepped back and realized that everyone in it is a two-dimensional stereotype, just like the characters in an Agatha Christie novel. The plot's the thing! Too bad there's no Hercule Poirot equivalent here. We could use a few grey cells on the case.
 

Corazon

Thanks for the recap, while I had it on last night, I was too busy to watch it so only read heard it. I look forward to reviewing all the great acting tonight.

So Veronica told both, I thought she only told Deborah. I wonder what Deborah is going to do with the information. Somehow I hold on to hope that Vicky would have said to call the cops or to tell Andres.

Didn't Andres tell the accountant or IT guy to go someplace where he could not be found, until Andres called him back?
 

MI CORAZÓN - JUEVES

Nellie, I hope you're right about Andrés telling the two guys who have the goods on Marcelo and Ramón to hide out.