Wednesday, September 07, 2011

La Fuerza del Destino #23 Tue 09/06/11

We start off with David hired by Anthony. David asks if Ivan would have a problem with rumors flying around town that he's interested in Maripaz. Anthony clarifies that he's not interested in her and if he were they don't mix business with personal life.

Gerry and Camilo talk construction. Ivan walks in and takes over.

Judith and Maripaz go visit Anthony to make their "decorating" proposal. Maripaz makes herself at home. She makes the presentation as if she did all the work with Judith rolling her eyes.

Ivan takes the chance while speaking with Gerry that he and Lucia are novios. Gerry is very happy over the news.

Carlota tells Lucia that she forgot to tell her that Carolina called for her.

Carolina says she called to find out how she's doing since she hasn't heard from her in a while. Lucia gives her the good news that she and Ivan are now novios. Carolina is happy and Gerry walks in. She tells Gerry and he tells her that Ivan already spilled the beans.

Maripaz is home and starts yelling that the "old man" refused her decorating proposal after all the work she did. Lucrecia asks her what she's talking about. Anthony McGuire replies Maripaz. I offered to decorate his house and he didn't like my proposal. Lucrecia asks since when has she been a decorator? I'm not, but Judith is replies Maripaz. Lucrecia says it's best. I don't want you around the McGuire's anyway. Maripaz replies it was the only way for her to be close to Ivan and now that "old man" took it away from her. Lucrecia tells her to forgot about Ivan. Today he asked her to be "novios" with Lucia and she accepted. How could you yells Maripaz. You forbade me. I changed my opinion replies Lucrecia. So what? Where is she yells Maripaz as she walks away. Lucrecia follows.

Carlota asks Lucia how old Alex is. Suddenly Maripaz comes storming into Lucia's room and says "You finally found what you wanted, but you wouldn't be able to marry him since he's your cousin." Lucrecia tells her to be quiet, but Maripaz keeps talking. Cousins do not marry. Explain to her, Abuela. Carlota spills the beans to Lucia. She tells her that Alicia, Ivan's mother, was Teodoro's daughter. But Ivan is not your cousin. Lucrecia begs her mom to stay quiet. Carlota tells her that if we are going to air out the dirty laundry, then let's let it all out. There is no blood between you because your mother is not the daughter of Teodoro Curiel! Stunned faces from the girls. Lucrecia laughs it off saying her mother is loosing her mind. She is Teodoro's daughter. Carlota says it's not a lie. She married Teodoro pregnant with another man's baby. Lucrecia still says that her mother is crazy and when Lucia tries to defend her grandmother, Lucrecia says that what she says is the truth. Otherwise she will take back her permission that she and Ivan are novios. (What is Lucia 5?)

Ivan tells Camilo that he and Lucia are officially novios. Camilo can't believe that Lucrecia accepted it. He warns Ivan to watch out. She probably wants something. And wait til Maripaz finds out. She'll make a bad enemy. Ivan says what can she do? I'm not worried. (famous last words my friend)

Carolina and Gerry are talking about Ivan and Lucia. Carolina thinks that if they marry then they will have kids and Ivan will forget about is lost child. Gerry doesn't think so. Plus he's also feeling guilty every time he sees him. Carolina tells Gerry not to do anything foolish that he might regret later.

Maripaz and Lucia are still arguing about being related to Ivan. Maripaz says you can't marry your cousin, Lucia says you can with permission and tests. Plus you had a child with him and he came out alright. Anyway I believe my grandmother. Maripaz asks if her mother lied. Carlota says that their mother always loved being a "Curiel" and Teodoro was a well known and liked man throughout the world. Maripaz asks Carlota who the heck did she "kick it" with then? Lucia tells Maripaz to respect their grandmother. Maripaz says when I got pregnant everyone looked down on me. They same thing happened to her, but I didn't have the opportunity to marry a rich man to over up the scandal like she did. Lucia calls her garbage. Maripaz starts yelling at Lucia and getting in her face. Carlota has to get in the middle and then throws Maripaz out. Carlota says perhaps I said too much. Lucia tells her it's best to get everything out. It's not good to hold it all in. I love you.

Anthony goes to visit JJ and tells him that he gave David a job. JJ says he's a good for nothing, but Anthony says I think he is. He received good grades in school and managed your affairs rather well. Well yes, replies JJ. But I had to tell him how and what to do all the time. He also has a timid character. Anthony tells JJ that he doesn't care about personal things. David gave him a good impression and he needed the job. Well, it's on you says JJ. But if he fails, don't get angry with me. Anthony assures him he doesn't think David will fail him.

Lucrecia is in her room and Carlota comes in to give her apologizes. Lucrecia always wanted her daughters to be proud that they come from a good, respectable family. Not ordinary like Ivan. Carlota says nothing has to leave this house. It can still be our secret. What if one of the girls spills the beans asks Lucrecia. Once Ivan gets word, he'll come for his inheritance. Carlota says Ivan won't do that. He has no need for it. Lucrecia says he would. He hates us. Now leave me alone!

Camilo asks Ivan if he really is in love with Lucia. They talk about their sufferings. Their lives.

David tells Edith that he found a job with Mr. McGuire. Edith tells him that once his dad finds out, he's going to be upset. Both Maripaz and Lucia are seeing Ivan. That's why Lucia broke it off with Saul.

The boys (Ivan and Camilo) get an ice cream. Ivan talks about his lost son. They toss around ideas and theories. Camilo says Gerry has a son the same age your own son would be. Ivan wants to know when Gerry got married and where.

Maripaz complains to her friends that Lucia stole her novio from her.

Celia makes lunch for Camilo. They sit down to eat and Camilo asks her if she remembers their conversation the other night regarding Gerry and his little boy. Well I got to thinking today and what if that little boy was really Ivan's? Camilo explains his theory. Celia says I hope you didn't tell Ivan. Camilo says he did. Did Alicia ever tell you that Gerry was kicking it with another? Celia says she never did. And I don't want you getting involved in all this.

Anthony tells Ivan that Maripaz came to present her "decorating" ideas, but he didn't like it. So he contracted someone else. So how did she take it asks Ivan? She held on to her anger. Also I hired David and went to visit JJ to tell him. And how did JJ take it asks Ivan? He also held on to his anger replies Anthony. They both share a laugh.

JJ is home whining and complaining about Anthony hiring David. He says it appears he's really not such a friend after all. What did he do to you asks Edith. Because of him, all my friends will be laughing at me replies JJ. All because of David. What did our son do asks Edith? Our idiot son asked him for a job and the old man gave it to him replies JJ. Well he left the house and he needed a job says Edith. So he had to go to him and ask for a job asks JJ? Put me to shame? He did it on purpose! Saul walks in and JJ says did you know that David asked Anthony for a job and that your ex-girlfriend is now going with Ivan? And what do you want me to do asks Saul? Nothing replies JJ. Even I can't do nothing, but stand around with my arms crossed. My children just want me to look bad. Saul gets angry and says he wanted to get some guys to beat up Ivan, but he said no. Because you idiot, then all eyes would have been on you replies JJ. So what do I do asks Saul? JJ looks at him in frustration and walks away. Edith and Judith run up to Saul and beg him not to do anything stupid. Saul gets mad and walks off. Judith tells Edith that Saul won't do anything.

Lucia tells David that she and Ivan are novios. David warns her that he had a thing with Maripaz. Lucia says that is all clarified now. David tells her that he found a job with Anthony. She congratulated him. Suddenly Maripaz walks in and takes the phone away from her. She hangs up the phone and asks Maripaz if she was talking to her boyfriend? Lucia says I was talking to David. Maripaz asks what do you have with him? None of your business replies Lucia. The phone rings again and it's David, but Maripaz won't let her answer. Maripaz tells Lucia that when she was younger she was in love with Ivan. But of course he was a man and he couldn't become involved with someone as young as you were back then. He needed a woman and that woman was me. Lucia says yes, but you made him feel unappreciated and beneath you. Well we now that story. It's that we loved each other with a passion replies Maripaz. I had his son. We have a bond that is really hard to break. You broke it when you wanted to get rid of the child says Lucia. But I didn't do it replies Maripaz. The child disappeared. Ivan returned and we renewed our relationship. We even made love. Ivan says that didn't happened says Lucia. He lied replies Maripaz. I believe him says Lucia. Of course replies Maripaz. Woman in love become dumb. But I don't care who you believe. He continues to be my man. Perhaps for you, but not for him says Lucia. He would still be if you hadn't interfered replies Maripaz. I didn't interfere says Lucia. Of course you did replies Maripaz. What he wants to do is hurt me. Because he cares for me. So Ivan isn't for me, then he won't be for you. So how are you going to do that asks Lucia. Very easy replies Maripaz. You are very much for my grandmother right? If you don't break your commitment with Ivan, the whole town will know about her past. And our mother is a bastard. I have nothing to lose. Everyone says I'm a drunk. Another thing added to my rep is no big deal. So break it off or I tell everything! Lucia runs after Maripaz and tries to reason with her. If she breaks if off with Ivan, he won't return to her. Why not asks Maripaz? Because of the child replies Lucia. If you haven't opened your big mouth and told him that the child wasn't dead he wouldn't have left me says Maripaz. We couldn't let him believe that the child was dead says Lucia. What did you accomplish by telling him the truth asks Maripaz? Did he find him? You only did it to make me look bad. You did it to look good to him. You know what to do and Maripaz storms off.

Ivan is in a flower shop and picks out a purple orchid. Then he's at a jewelers picking out a ring.

Clayto tells Gloria that the girls were fighting about a child that was not dead. He tells her that Maripaz when she was a young girl would sneek into Ivan's room. They put 2 and 2 together and come up with 4. Then Gloria tells Clayto that Gerry was really attentive and nice to Alicia. They put 2 and 2 together and come up with 4. Smart. Not ususal in novelas.

Carlota tells Lucia that she worries about word getting out and affecting Lucrecia. Lucia asks about Lucrecia's father. Carlota says it was a man that came on a construction job. She fell in love and when he found out she was pregnant, he left. She thinks he was married. Lucia asks if she remembers his name. Felipe Delmonte replies Carlota. Gloria brings a flower arrangement to Lucia. She opens the letter, it reads: My love, they say that orchids last for a long time. But I hope our love lasts forever. Lucia gets emotional and Carlota asks her what's wrong? Lucia blames it on her emotions. Carlota says there are 2 things that make happiness more complete. The love of a good man and the light in a child's eyes. You have the first and I hope soon you will have the second. Ivan calls and asks if she received the flower. Yes and thank you she replies. I have another gift for you says Ivan. Can I come by later and give it to you? Lucia tells him that she's not feeling well. Of course he gets all concerned. She tells him that she just wants to rest. Ivan says he's going to visit her anyway. She begs off and says she'll see him tomorrow. Carlota asks her what the heck is going on? Lucia says she doesn't feel like seeing anyone today. Carlota says but he's your boyfriend. I just want to be alone. Carlota says she's going to find out what's wrong with her but leaves for now.

Ivan picks up his phone then throws it down. Changes his mind and leaves his hotel room to drive to Lucia's house. Clayto greets him and Ivan says he wants to see Lucia. Carlota tells Clayto that she will get Lucia. Carlota finds Lucia crying. What's wrong she asks? I can't believe what I told you about myself and your mom has put you this way. Just the shock replies Lucia. Carlota tells her that Ivan is here to see her. Lucia tells her that she doesn't want to see him. Tell him I'm already asleep.

Carlota tells Ivan that's she's asleep. Ivan isn't buying it. Carlota doesn't know why she doesn't want to see him. Did you guys fight? No, nothing replies Ivan. Did something happen? Did Saul come and bother her? Carlota says a family problem. Just give her time replies Carlota. I'm sure tomorrow she will be okay. Ivan agrees and tells Carlota that he will be back tomorrow to see Lucia.

Ivan asks Clayto if he would answer a question for him. Clayto asks if it's regarding the fight the girls had today? Fight questions Ivan? Wasn't that what you were going to ask says Clayto. No, but I'm interested in the fight says Ivan. Well, I didn't hear anything replies Clayto. Maripaz took her car and left and Lucia was sad. He tries to ask more questions but Clayto ain't budging. Then Ivan asks about Alicia. Did she have a boyfriend? Clayto says she didn't but Ivan isn't believing him.

Tomorrow: Lucia tells Ivan she wants to break it off with him.

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Comments:
Thank you, Gloria. What a great summary!

The seemingly dim Carmelo isn't so dim after all. He is his mother's main hope, which is too bad. That and the "big lie" to Ivan have certainly influenced his life.

I hate it when misunderstandings and threats break up relationships on novelas. On the other hand, the Ivan-Lucia relationship is moving so quickly that it needs to slow down IMHO. We'll see whether Carlota is able to straighten out Lucia.
 

Such a fabulous recap, Reina del recap!!!

The whole Cleto +Gloria +Math=brilliant!!

I can't wait for tonight.

Oddly, I felt pity for Lucrecia last night and none for Merry Piece.

It's been mentioned before, but the "emotional prison" theme is always interesting to see. Iron bars in Casa Curiel. Iron bars in Casa Meandragon.

Traveling Lady- Camilo did seem rather astute IRT Alex. And I also hate stupid misunderstandings, but you are right. Things were moving along too quickly and smoothly and we still have about 75 episodes.

Oh! Does the fact that Carlota's baby daddy got named mean we will see him soon?
 

Thanks so much for the great recap Gloria.

I agree Traveling Lady that things were moving too quickly with Lucia and Ivan. It's like Ivan wants to create this perfect life for himself right this minute. Insta-wife, insta-family. It was just a few episodes ago when Lucia mentioned to Carlota Ivan's proposition that Carlota said that although they grew up with each other, they have to get to know each other as adults. In many ways it seems that Ivan still sees Lucia as a little girl he has to protect, and hasn't yet seen her for the woman she is (other than her being hot).

I thought it was funny when Maripaz was putting Lucia down to her friends and they were playing up how much better looking and sexy and more interesting Maripaz is. All of of the girlfriends agreed, except one who pointed out that Lucia actually IS really pretty. The look on Maripaz's face was funny. The Green Eyed Monster is in full force.

Bravo for Cleto, Gloria and Camilo for all knowing how to do math. Even Carlota got a strange look on her face when Lucia said Alex is 10. That math didn't make sense to her either and I bet she'll start to figure it out soon. I also think Ivan will quickly figure out why Lucia is shunning him too-- because Maripaz is holding something over her. But I'm not sure how quickly they'll reveal to him that he's a Curiel. There's a lot more at stake than just Carlota's and Lucrezia's reputations. There's also the legality of ownership of the ranch.

I took note of the saying Maripaz used when speaking to Lucia because I had not heard it before. She said one more stripe on the tiger won't make a difference (since her reputation is already crap anyway). I'll have to use that sometime.
 

If Ivan finds out it was Gerry who got his mom pregnant at the same time he figures out Alex is his, I see him being angry enough to start and ugly custody battle with Gerry. Just what Carolina fears. This would drive a huge wedge between him and Lucia too.
 

Cleto and Gloria doing the math and coming up with the right answers is part of a long tradition of servants being smarter than their bosses.

As for Maripaz' reputation I have a question: If everyone knows she's an alcoholic and thinks she's loca, why would anyone believe her?

Here is where I would back Lucrazia, who would want to prevent this risk of disgrace by committing Maripaz.

No matter what happens tonight, it's still too soon for Ivan to know that he is the rightful heir to the Curiel property.

I find it interesting that Lucrazia is so concerned with appearances she covered up Maripaz' pregnancy while JJ is so careless as to openly criticize his son to death to anyone within earshot. You'd think Esther would have at least tried to make him see how bad that makes him look.
 

JJ recommended to Anthony that he verify the ownership papers of any of the ranches he was going to invest in. This sets the stage for finding out someone else has a claim on the Curiel ranch.

Audrey
 

Everyone agree that Angelique Boyer was fabulously cast as Teresa?

Audrey
 

Ooops! Wrong comments link clicked. DarnI
 

I really love how exciting stuff happens with each episode. Am still traumatized by TdA!

Why is the receptionist at the Agricultores Association always munching on something? And she acted like she was surfing the web but the computer was displaying a screen saver.

JJ's comment about the ownership of the properties definitely made me suspicious. I wonder if he made some shady deals and tried to take people's property somehow. Or mayube he just wants Anthony to drop some of the socios so that he can get a bigger slice of the pie.

Yeah, why would anyone believe Maripaz anyway? And darn that Cleto being so loyal that he wouldn't tell Ivan anything. I definitely think Ivan is going to be really pissed at Gerry initially when the truth comes out.
 

Thanks for the wonderful recap Gloria. Things are moving quite quickly. Though things were moving fast between Ivan and Lucia, I too dislike the fact that its MP manipulating. The loca/o characters never understand that s/he will never be the one even if (in most case) s/he were the only person left on earth.

And yay for the correct math. Now if our mesa candidates would share that info, things could slowly start moving.

UA - ITA regarding how Lucrazy and JJ handle scandal. JJ's vanity probably makes him think no one would look badly at him regardless of what repulsive stuff he says.
 

Gloria, my thanks for your good recap. And belated thanks to 5Ft.Latina for Thursday's work.

Why is Celia so zealously guarding the secret of Alicia's relationship with Gerry? Is she just keeping a promise to her deceased friend?

I share with those commenters the lingering effects of the last tn, TdA. My head is spinning at how much better this one is!

Sondie
 

Great recap, Gloria. Thankl you very much. I guess they had to put the brakes on this galloping horse but too bad they chose Luica. She seemed so bright and she and Carlota didn't seem to really care what others thought. Of course. the one shamed would be Lucrezia abd Carlota protects her. Well, it still a good novela and hopefully Ivan will learn why he is being rejected soon but I wouldn't bet on it.

GinCA
 

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