Tuesday, December 27, 2011

Don Francisco Presenta Un Gran Noche de La Fuerza del Destino Lunes 12/26/11. La Fuerza del Destino Wrap Show.

By Urban Anthropologist

There is a Christmas tree in the back of the set and large wrapped gift boxes and poinsetta plants on the floor in front of the guest chairs.

Laisha Wilkins is the first cast member to be introduced, on set with Don F. She talked about how Maripaz' mother taught her to always get what she wants although Lucia turned out differently. She thinks that Ivan was the love of MP's youth. She wanted a man of means and Ivan just wasn't it when they were 19.

David Zepeda is via satellite from Mexico. He thinks that Ivan was attracted to Maripaz and it was a learning time in Ivan's life but that Alex was the light of his life. He was the greatest gift to Ivan. There are many angels that pass through our lives and that Alicia and Tony were his. Meeting Tony changed his destiny in a lot of ways.

DZ will be starring with Angelique Boyer soon. That should be interesting.

Here is where we find out that this program was taped before anyone knew about Pedro Armendáriz' condition.

Gabriel Soto via satellite, sitting on the same couch as DZ. He feels that Camilo was very conflicted. He loved and respected Ivan but saw an open door when he left with Maripaz. Later he merely weakened to Maripaz' sexual advances at a vulnerable time. “We're just men, after all.” However, in the end his friendship with Ivan won the day. Nothing new here.

Laisha thinks Maripaz learned the error of her ways just at the end.

Rosa Maria Bianchi joins them on the set. Speaking as Lucrezia she believes that she raised Maripaz as best she could. She wanted her to have everything (including the education Maripaz rejected). She favored Maripaz because she was more like her while Lucia was more like Gerry. Maripaz and Lucrezia were women “de mucho carácter.” Ambitious, willful, etc.

Delia Casanova via satellite: We were a family of “mujerones” [Will someone please explain that one?] Everyone makes mistakes they don't know are mistakes until later. She was always there for Lucia, who needed her the most. Tony appealed to Carlota because of his love of life. She thinks they did do the trip.

Laisha re the transplant story: Maripaz was desperate for the love of her son after the rejection of everyone else. She was too afraid to lose her mother (the only person who loved her) not to donate the kidney. Neither Laisha nor Rosa Maria would IRL accept a kidney from an offspring because you don't know what can happen to them in the future.

Kika Edgar joins DF on the set. She said that caring for a child makes for the maternal feelings that Carolina had for Alex. Furthermore, it was challenging to care for a child because Carolina was blind. She loved Antolin just as blindly. Her belief in him made him turn his life around.

Marcelo Cordoba via satellite from Mexico: Love changed Antolin, who previously did what he had to for survival. Gorgeous guy, but I prefer him without the beard.

I'm sure none of us agree with Don F's provocative comment on Antolin being the most evil character in the story.

There was a joke about actors feeling nothing during a certain type of scene.

Viewer questions submitted through Facebook: A viewer asks Laisha if she ever knew anyone like Maripaz or if she is anything like her. She answers “Thank God, no” to the second but to the first that she has known people worse than Maripaz, who had no regard for other people. Marcelo says that any person can change in life as Antolin did. Why not? DZ said that the most difficult time during production for him was when he was also doing promotional spots and had to exist on very little sleep and work in cold climates. He also felt he learned responsibility from playing Ivan.

Don F gave New Year's greetings and mentioned that Laisha will be on the New Year's program.

Interesting that the three ladies in DF's studio are all dressed in black with very modest jewelry. Is that because of the white chairs?

This must have been taped more than a week ago and I think the network should have had a disclaimer about Don Pedro's death before the beginning of the show.

More comments to come later.

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Thank you for the recap of Don Francisco Sara. I can't watch from here.

I agree with the assesments of the actors for their characteres but it seems the interview was a little on the superficial side regarding the actors.

Mujerón is a word used as an adjetive that denotes admiration, it means either that a woman is extremely beautiful or very strong-willed. Mujerones is the plural form.

Jarocha
 

Jarocha, thanks. One of my biggest pet peeves is when words aren't in the dictionary.

I truly believe that Cristina did a much better job with this type of show. I remember the one from Abrazame Muy Fuerte where one of the actors pointed out that they only completed two or three hours per week so the series was in production for two years. And how Pablo Montero's character was written out for a few weeks for him to record a CD. Don F doesn't get us that kind of information.
 

Sorry Urban, thank YOU for the recap and Sara for posting it :D.

I agree, Cristina was sometimes a little too inquisitive about the actor's private lives but she certainly got all the info not only on stuff that the audience might be curious about but on stuff that people couldn't have possibly imagine.

Don Francisco's show is usually all about him and I can't see how these reunions could work like that.

Jarocha
 

Thank you UrbanAnth and Sara for writing and posting this summary of the wrap show. I truly missed Cristina again last night. She is a real journalist and has more imagination and intelligence than Don Francisco. I admit that I am mad at Univision for keeping a silly OLDER man on who obviously sold out a long time ago while they fired Cristina and swept her out the door with the morning trash but then she is an OLDER woman and coudn't possibly matter. Well, glad I got that angry little bit out of my system. I don't know why Uni has decided on glam gams and jokesters like DonFranc when we could have kept them for those who like their culture on that level but let us keep just one hour of more honest programming.

UA, I frequently see "on" added on to the end of Spanish nouns to indicate emphasis of grandness or greatness, including sometimes size but more often intensity.
 

Thanks for this Urban. Totally agree on the differences between the insider fun info we got with Cristina versus the boring non info we get with DF. The actors look bored, the audience looks bored, and Viewerville certainly was bored. But it was nice to see so many of the actors together.
 

wordmagic.com is a very good dictionary, it also provides lost of phrases

mu·je·rón Feminine - Noun - Singular

big woman; Synonyms: mujerona, mujersota
very attractive woman, sexually attractive woman, sexy woman, bombshell, knockout, knockout woman, turn-on; Synonyms: mujer muy atractiva, mujer atractiva sexualmente, mujer sexualmente atractiva, palo de hembra, hembraza, jaca, jamona, tía buena, culazo

Variopinta
 

lots of phrases

Variopinta
 

"jamona"

LOL, I wonder from what country was the person who added that definition.

Jarocha
 

I believe Sandra E. just wrapped up a role in an Oliver Stone film called Savages, also she just released a CD of her music.
 

Thanks for the explanation. I'm still trying to get a better handle on "carácter". There is probably a long list of sound-alike words that don't mean the same thing.
 

As I wrote after Fuerza, no more DF for me. Cristina did a 200% better job of hosting the cast. It was trivial and boring.Even DZ and GS seemed bored during their interviews! Only that guapo from Argentina, Marcelo Cordoba had any pizzazz.And I'd take him beard or not!
 

I think we could all use some Marcelo Cordoba!

They may not have said anything about Don Pedro- Anthony- on this show, but the news on Univision and the morning shows (Despierta America, I think) have been doing nice bits on his life. I hadn't seen him before that I know of, but he'll be greatly missed in Mexico. I thought they said something about his family having a private service but that there will be some kind of rememberance from other actors. It's hard for me to catch everything without good subtitles.

Kelly
 

Thanks for recapping this. I forgot to set the recorder for it but I suppose it's just as well.

I'm befuddled as to how Don F got a job as an interviewer, and how he's kept it so long. He's so awkward and boring. I didn't think Cristina was excellent; she often asked things that were inappropriately personal, but at least she also got some interesting stories out of people and they mostly seemed to have fun on her show.

Sal y Pimienta sometimes does show-recap type segments. I didn't check to see whether they did this for LFdD. I saw their show when Soy Tu Duena ended and it was actually pretty interesting. The interviewer visited the set during the last days of filming and interviewed a lot of the actors there and showed some behind-the-scenes stuff, then had some of them in the studio as well. It was way better than just rehashing the novela, which we have already seen but obviously Don F hasn't if he thinks Antolin was the most evil.
 

Don Francisco must have been smoking something or never saw the series to say that Antolin was the most evil. I guess he never met Saul.


Ibarramedia
 

We all agree that Don Francisco's interviews are nto the greatest but here are some clips form the show anyway.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KMgX0u8Oyis&feature=g-vrec&context=G28e50a3RVAAAAAAAABQ

David Cepeda

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QhnsGv6pz1M&feature=related

Laisha Wilkins

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oFOkgfM2dzo&feature=related

Rosa Maria Bianchi

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K-uB6EAOTVw&feature=related

Kika Edgar

Ibarramedia
 

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