Tuesday, January 17, 2012
La Que No Podía Amar #11 Lunes 1/16/12 A Chapter of Indecent Proposals
Please provide any missing details. Gracias.
Antes:
Bruno approaches Ana Paula with an extraordinary offer of her salary being tripled, but must return to Rogelio with the conditions of her return. Ana Paula and Gustavo become novios. Sin-thia tells Maria that her life is a living hell.
Nuevo:
Rogelio's Study: Bruno and Rogelio review the business contract between Federico and Rogelio's father. Rogelio displays no intention of renewing it. He changes the subject and enquires about Ana Paula's conditions. He laughs at the demand for an apology, but falls silent at the demand that he cease physically abusing his employees. “This cannot be. Paula is incredible.” Indeed she is, Sir.
Casa Carmona: Tia MentiRosa accuses Ana Paula of the usual dishonesty (her own) and of being influenced by the earnest young Gustavo. She goes on about Rogelio being “hecho y derecho” and what a fool her niece is for leaving such a splendid post as that. She finally walks out as though to punctuate the statement with an exclamation point, leaving Ana Paul in the desired state of confusion.
Casa Durán: Gustavo speaks to Mercedes about Ana Paula's need for a new post, but she's already promised the next one to another girl (Dani). Yet she is pleased at her brother's happiness at finding a suitable young woman.
Rancho de Fuerte, Stable: Sin-thia scolds Efrain over Consuelo. He teases her about her jealousy. She threatens to expose his perfidy. She reminds him he is there to serve her as the dueña and he is to end his attachment to Consuelo.
Hacienda de Fuerte, Cocina: Maria consoles Consuelo, but lets her know that what she feels for Efrain isn't love. “What would I tell you mother?” Efrain enters in the middle of Maria's lecture on his character and she chases him around the kitchen with the spatula. This might be amusing if it weren't so like her patron's bad habit with his quirt.
Casa Durán: Dany and Mercedes talk and Dani tells her to consider her best friend for the next job opening. This solves Mercedes' problem for the moment.
Hacienda de Fuerte, Cocina: Maria finally exits in frustration and Efrain scolds Consuelo. In his typically caddish manner he drops her as he might a hot burrito. Was this not what others have warned her about?
Casa Carmona: Gustavo presents the graduation tickets to Ana Paula (four, for the entire family) and another gift, a job interview in the rehabilitation facility at his sister's hospital. She cannot contain her joy at this and they regard each other romantically.
Rogelio's Study: He reads Ana Paula's letter over again with Maria's voice echoing in his mind. Bruno returns to inform him he will be leaving for Tuxtla and Rogelio announces he will accompany him.
Casa Carmona: Gustavo and Ana Paula are kissing as Tia MentiRosa returns from shopping. They do not appear to have broken the kiss quite in time and Gustavo offers his assistance with the grocery bag. Tia MentiRosa, rather than being grateful for Gustavo's gentlemanly gestures, is being a fishwife. She scolds Ana Paula for being alone with her fiancé when there is such potential for scandal. Ana Paula explains his presence and announces that she has an appointment for a possible new position. Tia MentiRosa vulgarly speculates that is would not pay as well as her last one. Before Gustavo leaves for work he and Ana Paula kiss at the door. Tia MentiRosa is not at all pleased.
Commercial Break beginning with a promo for El Talisman.
Recamara de Sin-thia: Mellors climbs the trellis and sneaks in through the usual entrance and Lady Chatterley does not appear to be in the mood for a dalliance. However, his rough manner engages her as he throws her to the couch and her passion appears to increase. Consuelo does not know what she is missing and that is to her own good.
Casa Carmona: Ana Paula reproaches Tia MentiRosa for commenting on their not having new clothes for the graduation.
Ana Paula: Aunt, don't say in front of Gustavo that we don't have proper dresses for the graduation.
Tia MentiRosa: Why not? I'm only telling the truth. (drinks something we can't identify)
Ana Paula: I don't want him to think he's obligated to buy me anything. He's very generous and I don't want it to look like I'm taking advantage of him.
Tia MentiRosa: But what do you want a man for but to help you and buy you necessities?
Ana Paula: Tia, don't talk like that.
Tia MentiRosa: It's the truth. It's a worthy occasion and we need to prepare for the party.
Ana Paula: So we will.
Tia MentiRosa: Don't start saying the only important thing is love because it's not true. It's not like in the movies. In real life people marry for convenience, not because they're in love. When hunger enters the door –
Ana Paula: It won't be that way for me. On my wedding day it will be for love. A love so strong it will overcome every problem.
Tia MentiRosa (with a condescending laugh): It's a nice dream, very pretty. But practicality is another matter. I tell you this because I love you. It's wrong to dream of a royal prince. (places the tickets on the table)
As Ana Paula rolls her eyes, Tia MentiRosa coughs with such timing we all know it's another of her lies. .
David's Office, a noche: Gustavo arrives to collect his severance pay, but David tells him that he has forfeited his rights to it because he resigned. Gustavo tells him that this denial is illegal, but David – with condescension that Tia MentiRosa could have taught him – informs him that he just doesn't understand company politics. Gustavo understands well enough that he can stop him from building the hotels if he fails to comply with the law.
It is now morning in Tuxtla.
Health Club: Ana Paula presents her qualifications to the hiring manager in the rehabilitation center of the hospital. The documents appear to be in order and she explains that she took care of her mother in the last years of her life and briefly worked for a man who couldn't walk. The hiring manager is pleased, explaining she is qualified for the available position, and begins to describe it.
Federico's Office: Rogelio arrives for an apt. Federico closes the door behind him and takes his seat. We can anticipate no interruption from Elsa la Vaca.
Health Club: Ana Paula and the manager walk over to the desk, about to settle mundane matters such as her first day of work when Vainessa saunters in wearing a dress that may have been painted on.
Manager: The job is yours.
Vainessa: That's impossible. This tipa can't work here.
Manager: Why?
Vainessa: She is incompetent to do the required work if that's important to you.
Ana Paula (facing her directly): That is a lie.
Manager (to Vainessa): Why are you saying this?
Vainessa (arms akimbo with a victorious smirk): Because that's what she does. She worked for my ex-fiancé and left at the first little argument.
Manager: Is this true?
Ana Paula: Yes, but it isn't like she said.
Vainessa (with an unsubtle mocking tone and gesture): She left him a note saying she couldn't stand it any more, and walked out.
Ana Paula: Yes, I did, but it wasn't –
Vainessa (to the manager): That was so unprofessional. I'm just leaving you my advice and I will tell everyone about the kind of person you're about to hire. (looking over Ana Paula's head as though she were a piece of trash) Therefore?
Manager (with a a doubtful expression): That's very strange. Ana Paula came very well recommended.
Vainessa: I see. I can't imagine why. But if you don't want to believe me, fine. At this very moment I'll just go see – (turns to exit)
Manager: No, no, no, no, no. Wait.
Ana Paula: What? Aren't you going to allow me the benefit of explaining these things?
Manager: I'm sorry, but in view of this I can't give you the job.
Ana Paula (to Vainessa): Why are you doing this? What difference does my working here make to you?
Vainessa: Wake up, slut. I have friends.
Manager: Please leave.
Ana Paula: No, no, no. I can't let this woman force me to leave.
Manager (picking up the telephone): Leave or I will call security.
Ana Paula and Vainessa exchange a hostile glance and Ana Paula departs, saying to herself that it looks as though something is following her everywhere. Vainessa smirks to herself as Ana Paula exits. Vainessa has won this battle, but this war has just begun.
David's Office: Sin-thia arrives, wearing a leather dress that is also painted on. He begins flirting with her.
David: It's a pleasure to see you. Wow. It's a true miracle. Please come in and sit down.
Sin-thia: Thank you. I'd be in town more but you know how my brother is. He doesn't let me leave my corner. [esquina]
David: But things have to change for a beautiful woman like you. To be locked up like that is unfair to the rest of us, don't you think?
Sin-thia: One hopes that you will bring about the change. You're absolutely right.
David (addled): Well, yes.
Sin-thia: So how are you?
David: With you here, very well.
Sin-thia: Still the eternal bachelor?
David: I have yet to meet she who would make me change my life. I hope Rogelio will permit me to visit you.
Sin-thia: Rogelio is in town; he had an appointment.
David: So he's alone in the city?
Sin-thia: No; Hugo is with him. And I'd rather be with you until he's done.
David is clearly pleased at her forward nature.
Federico's Office: Rogelio tells Federico directly that he does not wish to continue to do business with him. Federico indicates his suspicion that this is about Vainessa and that someone as successful as Rogelio should be able to separate business from personal matters. Rogelio takes this as an insult although Federico didn't intend it as such. He continues to explain that their their association had been successful and should not end over Vainessa.
Commercial Break leading with a promo for Dale con Ganas.
Restaurant: Ana Paula tells Gustavo about the humiliation Vainessa just put her through. He tries to get her to calm down, but then explains he was forced to resign from his own post and received no severance pay.
Federico's Office: Federico is trying to get Rogelio to see the business and personal issues as separate and unrelated. He should just settle matters with Vainessa once and for all. After this concludes unsuccessfully (from Federico's viewpoint) Rogelio he prepares to leave. As Hugo takes his place behind the wheelchair Vainessa arrives and boasts to Rogelio that she chased Ana Paula out of the health club job. Rogelio is not impressed and departs. Vainessa, in her tight white ramerafalda, patiently plays with her hair beyond his departure, sure of her charms.
Restaurant: She addresses him for the first time as “Mi Amor” and he is thrilled. He is prepared to fight dragons for her. They kiss despite its public impropriety.
Federico's Office: Vainessa tries to get her father to talk about his conversation with Rogelio and she proceeds to whine and cry her usual poisonous tears. She manipulates him into embracing her.
Restaurant: Gustavo and Ana Paula discuss how he will explain to Fermin and the other fishermen what will happen. Gustavo tells her he will find a way to do this. When she suggests he return the graduation tickets for the money, Gustavo refuses, explaining that despite all the problems they will go to the graduation together and that this will be the first of many important shared events in their lives. As they embrace she appears worried.
Cafe de Macaria: Maria and Margarito. Maria asks whether Maripaz can take over for Ana Paula teaching Margarito and Macaria tells her that her daughter has no time because she will soon be attending classes herself. Maria tries to leave, knowing that Macaria wants in on the gossip, but Macaria persuades her to sit as she sends Maripaz inside. Margarito almost spills, but Maria nudges him into silence without dropping Macaria's gaze.
David's Office: David and Sin-thia share coffee and talk about going out to the midday meal as Miguel comes in carrying David's computer. David instructs him to leave it on the floor for the moment. Rogelio and Hugo arrive. Rogelio and Sin-thia say they recognize Miguel although they may not be making the connexion to Ana Paula. David is satisfied with Miguel's work and thanks them for recommending him.
Commercial Break
Casa Carmona: Dani arrives and wants to talk about what they'll wear to the graduation. Ana Paula takes out a black dress and asks whether Dani's sister could alter it to change its appearance. As they discuss this Tia MentiRosa pulls her stunt of praying because they need money. She isn't praying to the Virgen de Guadalupe, but attempting to manipulate Ana Paula's well-developed sense of guilt.
David's Office: Rogelio and David start talking about Gustavo and why he no longer works there. David describes him as being incompetent and incapable of carrying out the work. Rogelio says that this is why he trusts no one. Miguel, though we may find him wanting in intelligence, listens raptly to this discussion.
Casa Durán: Mercedes receives an unpleasant phone call from the health club manager and Gustavo arrives as she ends it. She reproaches him for recommending Ana Paula.
Casa Carmona: Over dinner and during a discussion about the difficulties in finding employment Miguel reveals that Gustavo has lost his position despite his background and experience. It comes to light that he and Ana Paula's novio are the same person and Tia MentiRosa's expression took a decidedly sour turn.
Casa Durán: Mercedes and Gustavo argue about Ana Paula and her resignation. Mercedes is angry that her recommendation of Ana Paula will hurt her future credibility in her work because of how this matter was concluded. She gives him an apology for her anger, but no opportunity to explain everything that happened. Finally, she explains their financial circumstances in view of his lack of severance pay and that they will have difficulty paying what they owe for the month.
Restaurant: David, Rogelio, and Sintha take lunch. In true gentlemanly fashion, David requests Rogelio's permission to court Sin-thia. Rogelio grants it, to both their surprise, then excuses himself to answer his ringing cell phone. Bruno has called to ask whether he should try harder for Ana Paula or get another nurse. Rogelio tells him that he will get another nurse after this call. At the sound of his name David asks Sin-thia whether there is still anything between her and Bruno and she tells him no. They flirt over the red wine, but Rogelio does not look pleased at this.
Tienda de Ulisses: As Efrain and Margarito exit to put the purchases in the car, Macaria enquires of Maria about Efrain's love life. Because it's been at least a year since she knows of a girlfriend in his life. There is an ulterior motive here, and we can imagine what it is.
Restaurant: David takes his leave to return to the office. Sin-thia tells Rogelio she's interested in David and would he not make a good husband for her. Rogelio, despite his dark expression earlier in the scene, concedes that this may be the case but they'll see. He then suggests that they visit Vainessa.
Casa Carmona: Ana Paula and Tia MentiRosa argue again about Gustavo. This tedious exchange merely serves to emphasize the unimportance of Gustavo's character and the importance of money to Tia MentiRosa. Bruno arrives to talk to Ana Paula while Tia MentiRosa fawns over him. He tries to persuade her to return to Rancho de Fuerte. Ana Paula asks him whether he's really doing this for Rogelio or for himself.
Commercial Break
Casa Carmona: Bruno explains he just follows Rogelio's orders, but that he has a motive of his own. Tia MentiRosa cheers his declaration of love and Ana Paula informs him she has a novio. He is not pleased at this disclosure, pointing out that she had previously told him she had no one. She apologises, but this is a new development in her life. Tia MentiRosa foolishly offers him coffee as he gets up and departs in anger he is intelligent enough not to show, ignoring her entreaties. She wails and rails to Ana Paula about what she is passing up, saying that Miguel has a mediocre job. She then lies about passing up the opportunity to marry because of the two of them, finally taking her crocodile tears outside.
San Gabriel: Sin-thia and Vainessa greet each other and she and Hugo leaves Rogelio alone with the vain one.
Vainessa: I don't believe this. It's what I've been waiting for.
Rogelio: I know, in which case I will be direct. I've been told you say you love me. And that you want to revive our relationship. (She walks away and sits down at the fountain edge) What do you say? Now that there is no contract between you and your father to interfere?
Vainessa: What? How?
Rogelio: If you accept now it could be for love and not for money. Do you want to begin again?
Vainessa: I don't quite believe this. At your hacienda you were so crude with me. How is it that after what you said to me you're saying this?
Rogelio: What you did was much worse, Vanessa. Despite the absence of seven years you seek me out. That's why I'm here now.
Vainessa (taking his hand): You believe me.
Rogelio: We've both hurt each other and that's why I'm here. (He starts stroking her hair) Here is my offer. [propuesta]
He kisses her very deliberately as the orchestra conveys what must certainly be her confusion.
Avances:
Besos and plotting, including Rogelio asking Ana Paula if she will return.
Vocabulary:
esquina corner
propuesta offer, proposal
propuesta offer, proposal
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Thank you so much UA for this delightful recap. I love the fishwife label for Tia MentiRosa. It is perfect for her. She screams continually like one lol.
Oh, Vainessa thinks she won. Well we will see. She is such a bi*tch, Rohell will not stay with her long. And your right, her dress did look painted on. I don't like her sneer.
Sin-thia and Effer are something else. Poor Consuelo, she is way better off without him. I loved your line about dropping her like a hot burrito.
Poor Ana Paula, the guilt is really wearing on her. But I am liking how she stands up to the lying Tia.
And Miguel, he really needs to do some manscaping with that unibrow. I wonder if the actor that plays him actually really looks like that or he did it for this role?
And that kiss between Rohell and Vainessa? I think Rohell is up to something? Maybe he is trying to see if she is really "in love" with him or is still trying to get him to sign that contract? If her Daddy loses that contract, it will effect her monetarily.
Oh, Vainessa thinks she won. Well we will see. She is such a bi*tch, Rohell will not stay with her long. And your right, her dress did look painted on. I don't like her sneer.
Sin-thia and Effer are something else. Poor Consuelo, she is way better off without him. I loved your line about dropping her like a hot burrito.
Poor Ana Paula, the guilt is really wearing on her. But I am liking how she stands up to the lying Tia.
And Miguel, he really needs to do some manscaping with that unibrow. I wonder if the actor that plays him actually really looks like that or he did it for this role?
And that kiss between Rohell and Vainessa? I think Rohell is up to something? Maybe he is trying to see if she is really "in love" with him or is still trying to get him to sign that contract? If her Daddy loses that contract, it will effect her monetarily.
Permalink posted by 
: Tuesday, January 17, 2012 at 11:26:00 AM EST
: Tuesday, January 17, 2012 at 11:26:00 AM EST
Thanks Urban!
RoHell is for sure up to something with everyone. He has something up his sleeve with David and Cynthia. His lips may have said yes to the relationship, but his eyes sure didn't. Same with his proposition to Vainessa. Let all those rich screwed up people continue to play their games with each other, with RoHell as the cruel puppet master. Just leave AP out of it.
RoHell is for sure up to something with everyone. He has something up his sleeve with David and Cynthia. His lips may have said yes to the relationship, but his eyes sure didn't. Same with his proposition to Vainessa. Let all those rich screwed up people continue to play their games with each other, with RoHell as the cruel puppet master. Just leave AP out of it.
Thanks for the recap UA. Tia MentiRosa continues to be a mess. Were you the one who predicted our clueless Miguel may be the first one to have his eyes opened to her schemes? I know its too early for either AP or Miguel to get a clue but their aunt does not have their best interests at heart.
Wow! I almost didn't recognize Cinthia with her belly button covered up. See? She can modest (sort of) and still look smokin' hot.
And did I get this right about Dani? She turned down a job for nursing that she spent years and (I assume) lots of money learning how to do, because she has this great position as assistant to a secretary? Is she nuts? I hope she and Miguel don't have kids because I'd worry for their stupid little futures.
Not sure where Vainessa is goin with this. It seems like she'd be better off having AP working in the gym and away from Rogelio than risking her being desperate enough to go back to the hacienda with him. SHe should've thought this through a bit. But if Rogelio is willing to triple her salary to get her back, she needs to come up with more demands, like eating breakfast wherever she damn well pleases and getting that kid the education he should have.
Rogelio hitting Efrain with a whip- bad. Maria hitting him with a spatula- hysterical. He totally deserved that.
Kelly
And did I get this right about Dani? She turned down a job for nursing that she spent years and (I assume) lots of money learning how to do, because she has this great position as assistant to a secretary? Is she nuts? I hope she and Miguel don't have kids because I'd worry for their stupid little futures.
Not sure where Vainessa is goin with this. It seems like she'd be better off having AP working in the gym and away from Rogelio than risking her being desperate enough to go back to the hacienda with him. SHe should've thought this through a bit. But if Rogelio is willing to triple her salary to get her back, she needs to come up with more demands, like eating breakfast wherever she damn well pleases and getting that kid the education he should have.
Rogelio hitting Efrain with a whip- bad. Maria hitting him with a spatula- hysterical. He totally deserved that.
Kelly
Permalink posted by : Tuesday, January 17, 2012 at 1:43:00 PM EST
: Tuesday, January 17, 2012 at 1:43:00 PM EST
Great recap, Urban. I really enjoyed your telling of the scene between Vanessa, AP, and the hiring manager. "Vainness has won this battle but the war has just begun." Ta dah! May it be just as you predict!
V has really cut off her nose to spite her face here. It would be much better for V to have AP safely tucked away in a cosy rehab job with her cosy boyfriend, wouldn't it?
And just was Rohelio up to ther at the end..
EJ
V has really cut off her nose to spite her face here. It would be much better for V to have AP safely tucked away in a cosy rehab job with her cosy boyfriend, wouldn't it?
And just was Rohelio up to ther at the end..
EJ
UA, this was simply great. I like your smart and sassy comments and observations. My favorite line was "This might be amusing if it weren't so like her patron's bad habit with his quirt."
Thank you for the vocabulary too!
Could Rogelio possibly be trying to reconnect with Vain to make Ana Paula jealous? He is determined she'll return. Hmmmm. Very interesting.
Diana
Thank you for the vocabulary too!
Could Rogelio possibly be trying to reconnect with Vain to make Ana Paula jealous? He is determined she'll return. Hmmmm. Very interesting.
Diana
Permalink posted by : Tuesday, January 17, 2012 at 2:10:00 PM EST
: Tuesday, January 17, 2012 at 2:10:00 PM EST
Consuelo needs to have her eyes opened wide to see what's wrong with Efrain. She's a decent girl and can do much better.
Miguel has spotted a clue previously and perhaps he will pick up on another. He is in a good position to do so because he can more easily detach emotionally from Tia MentiRosa. She also seems to have less interest in his misery. on an ongoing basis.
Rogelio has no intention of getting back together with Vainessa. I am predicting he's just trying to find out what she's been up to vis a vis Ana Paula. He was honest the first time: He doesn't love Vainessa any more now than he did before and she never loved him and still doesn't. If Federico doesn't get meat of the same quality his business will suffer and she'll want Rogelio's money more than ever.
He may be using her to make Ana Paula jealous, but if so he may have bitten off more than he can chew for the moment.
As to David and Sin-thia... I think David's interest in her is genuine but there is an undercurrent of greed. He will not like hearing about Efrain when the time comes.
Miguel has spotted a clue previously and perhaps he will pick up on another. He is in a good position to do so because he can more easily detach emotionally from Tia MentiRosa. She also seems to have less interest in his misery. on an ongoing basis.
Rogelio has no intention of getting back together with Vainessa. I am predicting he's just trying to find out what she's been up to vis a vis Ana Paula. He was honest the first time: He doesn't love Vainessa any more now than he did before and she never loved him and still doesn't. If Federico doesn't get meat of the same quality his business will suffer and she'll want Rogelio's money more than ever.
He may be using her to make Ana Paula jealous, but if so he may have bitten off more than he can chew for the moment.
As to David and Sin-thia... I think David's interest in her is genuine but there is an undercurrent of greed. He will not like hearing about Efrain when the time comes.
Thanks for the recap Urban.
The "when hunger enters the door..." reminded me of Teresa. Probably tía MentiRosa is what Teresa would have turned to if she hadn't had the chance to study anything.
Madelaine: That's how Osvaldo Benavides looks naturally. It's his signature, he has always been comfortable with his eyebrows.
Kelly:
Nursing school (no matter the type) is not expensive. I think Dani might be making more in her current job than what she was offered as a nurse, changing careers after entering the workforce is pretty common in Mexico. Doing what you studied for is the ideal but sometimes people prefer to do what helps them earn more, considering how hard it is to live by some of the salaries out there for professionals.
You can finish an engineering program and then get a job that pays only 500 dollars a month for your services, it takes alot of luck to get a good salary if you don't have the connections, especially in states like Chiapas or Oaxaca where salaries in general are very low. That's why aunt Rosaura isn't excited at all by the prospect of Gustavo for her niece.
Elna June:
I agree with you. Vainessa has very little foresight, I think she is just to full of herself and she just can't possibly believe that Rogelio would ever hire Ana Paula again.
Jarocha
The "when hunger enters the door..." reminded me of Teresa. Probably tía MentiRosa is what Teresa would have turned to if she hadn't had the chance to study anything.
Madelaine: That's how Osvaldo Benavides looks naturally. It's his signature, he has always been comfortable with his eyebrows.
Kelly:
Nursing school (no matter the type) is not expensive. I think Dani might be making more in her current job than what she was offered as a nurse, changing careers after entering the workforce is pretty common in Mexico. Doing what you studied for is the ideal but sometimes people prefer to do what helps them earn more, considering how hard it is to live by some of the salaries out there for professionals.
You can finish an engineering program and then get a job that pays only 500 dollars a month for your services, it takes alot of luck to get a good salary if you don't have the connections, especially in states like Chiapas or Oaxaca where salaries in general are very low. That's why aunt Rosaura isn't excited at all by the prospect of Gustavo for her niece.
Elna June:
I agree with you. Vainessa has very little foresight, I think she is just to full of herself and she just can't possibly believe that Rogelio would ever hire Ana Paula again.
Jarocha
Permalink posted by : Tuesday, January 17, 2012 at 2:40:00 PM EST
: Tuesday, January 17, 2012 at 2:40:00 PM EST
UA, thanks for the recap and vocab (Spanish and English). "Quirt" is new to me too. Efrain is really in demand - Cynthia, Consuelo, and now apparently Macaria sees him as a good prospect for her daughter. Was I the only one who thought "ouch!" when Efrain was slinging hay in the barn with the hay grazing the wounds on his shirtless back?
Agree Vainessa is super short-sighted to blow Ana Paula's new job, but I guess she wanted to put Ana Paula in her place soooo bad she couldn't think straight.
Agree Vainessa is super short-sighted to blow Ana Paula's new job, but I guess she wanted to put Ana Paula in her place soooo bad she couldn't think straight.
Thank you so much for your recap, Urban, I love your writing style!
When I first saw this episode I immediately suspected that Rohellio was up to something in regard to Vainessa. Because, as we must all remember, he is a douchebag! LOL. He is relying on her natural vanity and arrogance and knows (I believe) that she'll very easily accept him back, believing that her charms are so irresistable that he couldn't stay away for long. And it seems like she is doing just that.
I also agree that Vainessa was short-sighted to ruin that job chance for Ana Paula. All the more reason for AP to feel forced to go back to Rohell. I don't know if Vainessa knows how desperate Rohell is to get AP back (I don't recall anyone telling her that he offered her triple her old salary), but I'm guessing she isn't aware of how much he wants AP back.
When I first saw this episode I immediately suspected that Rohellio was up to something in regard to Vainessa. Because, as we must all remember, he is a douchebag! LOL. He is relying on her natural vanity and arrogance and knows (I believe) that she'll very easily accept him back, believing that her charms are so irresistable that he couldn't stay away for long. And it seems like she is doing just that.
I also agree that Vainessa was short-sighted to ruin that job chance for Ana Paula. All the more reason for AP to feel forced to go back to Rohell. I don't know if Vainessa knows how desperate Rohell is to get AP back (I don't recall anyone telling her that he offered her triple her old salary), but I'm guessing she isn't aware of how much he wants AP back.
OT for Jarocha:
Jarocha I am thinking of spending some time in Mexico studying Spanish. I have been to Gringolandia Spanish schools for just a couple of weeks in San Miguel and in Mexico City. My husband would travel with me so I don't want to stay in someone's home.
Can you recommend a program that you like? Your English is so extraordinary—I admire your command of my native tongue. My current aspiration would be able to watch one of those crazy-fast Mexican talk shows and be able to follow the dialog. Without a storyline or plot to fill in the blanks I am lost within minutes.
Please feel free to e-mail me off line at sdougherty3e@google.com to answer. Thanks in advance for your time.
Kind Regards,
ElnaJune, aka Sheryllyn
Jarocha I am thinking of spending some time in Mexico studying Spanish. I have been to Gringolandia Spanish schools for just a couple of weeks in San Miguel and in Mexico City. My husband would travel with me so I don't want to stay in someone's home.
Can you recommend a program that you like? Your English is so extraordinary—I admire your command of my native tongue. My current aspiration would be able to watch one of those crazy-fast Mexican talk shows and be able to follow the dialog. Without a storyline or plot to fill in the blanks I am lost within minutes.
Please feel free to e-mail me off line at sdougherty3e@google.com to answer. Thanks in advance for your time.
Kind Regards,
ElnaJune, aka Sheryllyn
Thanks, UA. Jarocha, Thanks for filling in all the great background info regarding Mexican culture. Seeing Effer with straw sticking to him made me think of the local farmboys I grew up with . They'd make hay shirtless and end the day covered in hay dust. Every scene featuring Vain starts a song playing in my head ...''I'm Sexy and I Know It.'' Great song and just made for V. The kissing between Gus and AP is improving.
Permalink posted by : Tuesday, January 17, 2012 at 4:40:00 PM EST
: Tuesday, January 17, 2012 at 4:40:00 PM EST
In Spanish they actually say "pintado" meaning clothing that's so tight it looks "painted on." They also might say "pegado" meaning "pasted on."
Permalink posted by : Tuesday, January 17, 2012 at 4:55:00 PM EST
: Tuesday, January 17, 2012 at 4:55:00 PM EST
Loved the recap UA. Vainessa did win round one in her war against AP. It seemed to me when she told Rog the stunt she pulled that he smirked a bit unless I was seeing things.
I groaned at the end when Rog told her he wanted to start over and they kissed. I wonder if he is being for real or testing Vainessa to see if she'll dump him again. Either way, I hate this development.
I groaned at the end when Rog told her he wanted to start over and they kissed. I wonder if he is being for real or testing Vainessa to see if she'll dump him again. Either way, I hate this development.
Permalink posted by : Tuesday, January 17, 2012 at 4:55:00 PM EST
: Tuesday, January 17, 2012 at 4:55:00 PM EST
Elna June
I spent 3 wks in Guanajuato, beautiful, quaint, in the mountains, easy to get to, you can fly to Leon. It isn't that far from San Miguel though but in my opinion much better than San Miguel & definitely NOT gringolandia. I stayed in a home but very close was a wonderful small hotel, I'll look for the card. I went to the Don Quiote school. They also have a university there. If interested I can give you more info.
I spent 3 wks in Guanajuato, beautiful, quaint, in the mountains, easy to get to, you can fly to Leon. It isn't that far from San Miguel though but in my opinion much better than San Miguel & definitely NOT gringolandia. I stayed in a home but very close was a wonderful small hotel, I'll look for the card. I went to the Don Quiote school. They also have a university there. If interested I can give you more info.
Permalink posted by : Tuesday, January 17, 2012 at 5:11:00 PM EST
: Tuesday, January 17, 2012 at 5:11:00 PM EST
Variopinta:
Thanks so much. I would LOVE to have you tell me more about this. Pls e-mail me at sdougherty3e@gmail.com.
Again, thank you and I look forward to learning more about your experience.
ElnaJune
Thanks so much. I would LOVE to have you tell me more about this. Pls e-mail me at sdougherty3e@gmail.com.
Again, thank you and I look forward to learning more about your experience.
ElnaJune
Tks so much UA
Yep, Rogelio is up to sth, he has seen through Vanesa & I'm sure is looking to get even. Vanesa screwed herself, she doesn't know Ana Paula will be returning.
When he was with Cintia & David in the restaurant, his eyes were going back & forth between them, I think he sees through David also.
Rosaura is a few decibels lower than Enriqueta in STuD, but we know she can rev it up.
Yep, Rogelio is up to sth, he has seen through Vanesa & I'm sure is looking to get even. Vanesa screwed herself, she doesn't know Ana Paula will be returning.
When he was with Cintia & David in the restaurant, his eyes were going back & forth between them, I think he sees through David also.
Rosaura is a few decibels lower than Enriqueta in STuD, but we know she can rev it up.
Permalink posted by : Tuesday, January 17, 2012 at 5:24:00 PM EST
: Tuesday, January 17, 2012 at 5:24:00 PM EST
Elna June: Let me ask some people about Spanish programs in Mexico and I'll get back to you. I don't really know much about those but I think several universities might have Spanish courses in the summer.
Jarocha
Jarocha
Permalink posted by : Tuesday, January 17, 2012 at 5:53:00 PM EST
: Tuesday, January 17, 2012 at 5:53:00 PM EST
Rogelio's plan with Vainessa could be plain old vanilla revenge on her -- get her hopes up then dump her ass -- or it could be a ploy to make Ana Paula jealous. These also aren't mutually exclusive.
I am wondering whether Rogelio is luring Ana Paula back just to fire her and teach her a lesson. This would be consistent with his other behavior but would be a contradiction of the previous.
As to Vainessa's preventing AP from getting the job, this is clearly about making sure she is "kept in her place." She had the superior air of one who says "You'll never work in this town again," something people in the US can't get away with saying. Yes, this was foolish if her goal was to keep her from Rogelio, but she doesn't yet know that.
If both of them end up under his roof all hell will break loose.
I am wondering whether Rogelio is luring Ana Paula back just to fire her and teach her a lesson. This would be consistent with his other behavior but would be a contradiction of the previous.
As to Vainessa's preventing AP from getting the job, this is clearly about making sure she is "kept in her place." She had the superior air of one who says "You'll never work in this town again," something people in the US can't get away with saying. Yes, this was foolish if her goal was to keep her from Rogelio, but she doesn't yet know that.
If both of them end up under his roof all hell will break loose.
Elna June, I'll look through my stuff & e-mail you mañana.
I went on several tours & one was San Miguel, it seems a metropolis next to Guanajuato, even though G is the capital. Be prepared to walk up & down hills. I was in terrific shape when I got home.
I went on several tours & one was San Miguel, it seems a metropolis next to Guanajuato, even though G is the capital. Be prepared to walk up & down hills. I was in terrific shape when I got home.
Permalink posted by : Tuesday, January 17, 2012 at 6:43:00 PM EST
: Tuesday, January 17, 2012 at 6:43:00 PM EST
EJ- There are a few schools in Cuernavaca, not too far south of Mexico City. It's a much larger place than Guanajuato (and no mummies), but it was a nice place. Of course, I was there back in '94 so it's been a while, but check out Centro Bilingue. I think it's tourist by Mexicans much more than Americans, but Jarocha could speak to that more.
Kelly
Kelly
Permalink posted by : Tuesday, January 17, 2012 at 6:48:00 PM EST
: Tuesday, January 17, 2012 at 6:48:00 PM EST
Variopinta:
Thanks so much for the info. I lived in San Francisco for many a moon, therefore I am skilled at both walking and parking on hills!
With a smile and a sincere thank you,
EJ
Thanks so much for the info. I lived in San Francisco for many a moon, therefore I am skilled at both walking and parking on hills!
With a smile and a sincere thank you,
EJ
UA, thank for the great recap. I concur with you about Rogelio's motives regarding the Vain One.
Rosemary
Rosemary
Permalink posted by : Tuesday, January 17, 2012 at 6:54:00 PM EST
: Tuesday, January 17, 2012 at 6:54:00 PM EST
Elna June, you wont have to worry about parking, there is hardly anyplace to park. Most of the streets are one way & very narrow, at least in town. I don't remember seeing a stop sign, not needed, you have to drive so slow .
Permalink posted by : Tuesday, January 17, 2012 at 7:02:00 PM EST
: Tuesday, January 17, 2012 at 7:02:00 PM EST
UA, some excellent observations here about Rohellio's motivations for getting back with Vainessa.
When I first saw this, my initial thought was, "This can't be right." I figured that Rohell was up to something.
I think you bring up a good point about Rohell hoping to make Ana Paula jealous—he accused her of this previously (in episode 8). On the other hand, he really, really wants her back, and he knows she's volatile and capable of jumping ship at a moment's notice, so perhaps he wouldn't push his luck with her and simply wants to entice her back with any methods possible. (None of what I'm saying here should be interpreted as a spoiler! Because it's not!)
One thing I've enjoyed about this TN are the rich examples of "hand porn." If you're not familiar with what that means, here's a video clip with some examples: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oN6uk8HDfFA. (All the clips are from period dramas, but hand porn happens in all sorts of shows. I hope to make my own "hand porn" video eventually with more examples.) "Hand porn" (and also "shoulder porn") is when the simple, seemingly innocuous touching of hands between two parties is acutely noticed by the camera, the viewer, and usually at least one of the parties participating in the hand porn.
So far on this show, we've had two examples (that I can think of) of hand porn between Ana Paula and Rohell. When he touched her hand when she was sleeping after the fall from the horse, and also when he touched her hand when they went out to eat at San Gabriel (and later Gustavo came to show Rohell some construction plans). Let's keep our eyes peeled for more hand porn (and shoulder porn, where one person touches the other person's shoulder—oh woo hoo, how exciting! LOL.)
Yeah, I watch too many period dramas. LOL.
When I first saw this, my initial thought was, "This can't be right." I figured that Rohell was up to something.
I think you bring up a good point about Rohell hoping to make Ana Paula jealous—he accused her of this previously (in episode 8). On the other hand, he really, really wants her back, and he knows she's volatile and capable of jumping ship at a moment's notice, so perhaps he wouldn't push his luck with her and simply wants to entice her back with any methods possible. (None of what I'm saying here should be interpreted as a spoiler! Because it's not!)
One thing I've enjoyed about this TN are the rich examples of "hand porn." If you're not familiar with what that means, here's a video clip with some examples: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oN6uk8HDfFA. (All the clips are from period dramas, but hand porn happens in all sorts of shows. I hope to make my own "hand porn" video eventually with more examples.) "Hand porn" (and also "shoulder porn") is when the simple, seemingly innocuous touching of hands between two parties is acutely noticed by the camera, the viewer, and usually at least one of the parties participating in the hand porn.
So far on this show, we've had two examples (that I can think of) of hand porn between Ana Paula and Rohell. When he touched her hand when she was sleeping after the fall from the horse, and also when he touched her hand when they went out to eat at San Gabriel (and later Gustavo came to show Rohell some construction plans). Let's keep our eyes peeled for more hand porn (and shoulder porn, where one person touches the other person's shoulder—oh woo hoo, how exciting! LOL.)
Yeah, I watch too many period dramas. LOL.
Urban, as usual I loved your recap and your side comments, you have a good understanding of the human condition.
Kelly and Jarocha: Don't know if nursing school is cheap in Mexico (it's not here), but it still seems weird to me that Dani is thrilled with being a secretary instead. But OK. Whatever.
And, I don't get Vanessa ruining AP's chance at the Health Club job and freeing her up to go back to Rohell, seems self defeating and unnecessarily mean.
Rohell is definitely setting Vanessa up.
Kelly and Jarocha: Don't know if nursing school is cheap in Mexico (it's not here), but it still seems weird to me that Dani is thrilled with being a secretary instead. But OK. Whatever.
And, I don't get Vanessa ruining AP's chance at the Health Club job and freeing her up to go back to Rohell, seems self defeating and unnecessarily mean.
Rohell is definitely setting Vanessa up.
Thanks UA! I'm just getting home and sped through this pretty quickly, but I loved you little commentaries about Tia.
Sin's shirts are getting shorter and shorter!
I for one did not like the Effer/Sin "seduction" scene. Just made me think of the old attitude of rapists "she asked for it." Meh. Maybe it's just me.
Sin's shirts are getting shorter and shorter!
I for one did not like the Effer/Sin "seduction" scene. Just made me think of the old attitude of rapists "she asked for it." Meh. Maybe it's just me.
Emarie- Exactly! I get wanting the best salary you can get, but after all that nurses school she's way overqualified to be an assistant to a secretary. And the world has one less actress who might actually know CPR from her fake nursing duties. Shame.
Kelly
Kelly
Permalink posted by : Tuesday, January 17, 2012 at 8:24:00 PM EST
: Tuesday, January 17, 2012 at 8:24:00 PM EST
LOL Elvira! Hand porn. I'll have to keep an eye out for it. How about this, starting at minute 4:00: http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xgtlst_cuando-me-enamoro-jyr-parte-41_shortfilms
"Hand porn"; por supuesto!
The best examples of this belong to the late, great Eduardo Palomo. He had such beautiful hands there was no director who didn't do close-ups of them. Here is one of the best examples:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c3w9b2Y09Ks&feature=related
The best examples of this belong to the late, great Eduardo Palomo. He had such beautiful hands there was no director who didn't do close-ups of them. Here is one of the best examples:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c3w9b2Y09Ks&feature=related
UA, thanks for the excellent recap. Also, thanks to Jardinera for Fri. recap.
Elvira, thanks for the term and example of "hand porn." Hadn't heard that before, but touching hands was always important when that was the most you could do under the social strictures of the period.
La Paloma
Elvira, thanks for the term and example of "hand porn." Hadn't heard that before, but touching hands was always important when that was the most you could do under the social strictures of the period.
La Paloma
Permalink posted by : Tuesday, January 17, 2012 at 8:50:00 PM EST
: Tuesday, January 17, 2012 at 8:50:00 PM EST
Viva, UA, you are shameless hussies with your explicit examples of hand porn! Have you no shame?!?!? LOL!! Thanks for the clips!
Oh, I love Viva too Elvira. :) Keep the examples of hand porn coming. UA- That scene made me want to watch CS93.
CS1993 was my first novela de epoca. I took a tape of that scene to a friend's house and she thought that was one of the hottest things she ever saw.
I really miss Eduardo Palomo. He was an amazing actor.
For other excellent examples of this phenomenon, the music videos of Alejandro Fernandez and Pablo Montero have them. Sadly, most of these have been removed from YouTube.
I really miss Eduardo Palomo. He was an amazing actor.
For other excellent examples of this phenomenon, the music videos of Alejandro Fernandez and Pablo Montero have them. Sadly, most of these have been removed from YouTube.
More hand porn:
Juan Soler and Daniela Castro in Cañaveral de Pasiones.
Jarocha
Juan Soler and Daniela Castro in Cañaveral de Pasiones.
Jarocha
Permalink posted by : Tuesday, January 17, 2012 at 10:39:00 PM EST
: Tuesday, January 17, 2012 at 10:39:00 PM EST
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