Saturday, April 21, 2012
El Talismán #58 Fri 4/20/12 The Aftermath and Suspicions Abound
Previously on El Talisman:
Doris and Tonio are arguing, Doris reminds him that Cameela will marry Pedro and not him, he claims Mariana is alive she says whatever and she tells him she is leaving.
Today on El Talisman:
El Capitan is in charge of the investigation into the bombing of Gabe's car. (ed note: I have to say here El Capitan is the hardest working cop since Comandante Leonardo Faidella in La Verdad Occulta). His assistant tells him the car belongs to a worker from El Talisman.
Gabe and Sarita talk to Geno and tell her that Pedro and Cameela are getting married. Geno is thrilled.
Rita and Rennie are talking about the money again from Tonio. Rennie tells her it will be complicated because he just doesn't trust Pigorio. Rita warns him if he doesn't get that money soon, she will go after Tonio herself. Rennie doesn't look happy.
Manuel and Mariana are at the Only Hotel in Fresno. Manuel asks her if she is remembering anything since they have been here. She says no and is a little perturbed. Manuel tells her to be calm and she will remember little by little. She says she doesn't feel safe in Fresno.
Panchito is still trying to get Pigorio to talk to him about Doris. Pigorio tells him you wouldn't understand.
Doris is at Madame Brigette's and she tells her that Pigorio threw her out of El Alcatrash because he is jealous of Tonio.
Cameela, Pedro and Margarito are talking. They tell her she should tell El Viral they are getting married, even though Cameela is reluctant she agrees.
El Viral is still with Lic Menendez. She is in a snit about the lawyer telling her she gets nothing. The lawyer asks her if she has thought of reconciling with Rennie. El Viral looks at him like he is crazy. She can't beleive she is getting nothing. She fires him and says she will get a way better lawyer than him. He tells her any other lawyer will tell her the same thing. She calls him crazy and a robber. Angel comes in and asks what all the ruckus is. She tells Angel, and Angel says I'll get you a phone book and look for another lawyer. Just be calm. In comes Army and El Viral tries to talk to him, but he is still mad at her for the way she treated Fabi. She asks are you going to meet Fabi and he says yeah. She is very upset.
El Capitan says to his assistant that he is going to do a thorough investigation of this car bombing and he has to go see Pedro at El Tal. He tells his assistant this has Pigorio's fingerprints all over it.
Manuel and Mariana have gone to an outdoor cafe. A waitress waits on them and keeps staring at Mariana. Manuel and Mariana are wanting to know why she is staring. She tells Manuel and Mariana that Mariana looks like the missing Pedro Ibarra's wife. They are both surprised.
El Capitan has come to El Tal and asks to meet with Pedro. He has very bad news.
El Viral is still fuming when Tonio shows up to see her. He tells her Cameela and Pedro are getting married and that he needs her help to break them up.
El Capitan tells Pedro about the car exploding. El Capitan wants to know who the car belongs to. Sarita comes in and says Tia Patty and Claudio were in that car, they took it to the airport. Sarita wants to know how they are, and what happened?
Lucas and Valentin are back at El Alcatrash. Valentin wants to tell Pigorio exactly what happened, but Lucas is trying to get him to lie and say they all died including Mariana. He tells Valentin that if Pigorio finds out Mariana didn't die in that explosion, there will be hell to pay. Valentin looks like he is going to be sick.
Manuel and Mariana are still talking at the cafe. Mariana thinks she ran away from Pedro because he tried to harm her, and if he finds out she is in Fresno he will do it again. Manuel is the voice of reason and asks her how can she be sure Pedro actually did this. She wants Manuel to help her. He assures her he will help her find out what really happened. She asks him if he thinks Pedro would harm her?
Pigorio tells Panchito to find Valentin, he needs to see him. Valentin walks into the office and Pigorio tells Panchito to go. Valentin tells Pigorio that two people are dead, but Mariana is not. Pigorio is having a cow, he wants her dead already.
Panchito tells Tracy there are some bad things going on right now at El Alcatrash. Tracy asks like what things, and Panchito says Tonio has caused all kinds of problems. Lucrazy comes in and tells Tracy she wants a meal and snap to it while she is snapping her fingers. Poor Tracy says I'm on it.
El Capitan tells Pedro that Tia Patty and Claudio are both dead in the car explosion. Just then Gabe, Sarita and Margarito come in and Pedro tells them what happened. They are all inconsolable and cry together. El Capitan says he will personally investigate this case. Margarito thinks this is punshiment from God for all of his drinking years and ignoring his son.
Valentin is thinking of the explosion and still looks sick. Tracy asks him what is wrong but he won't say. Sarita calls Tracy and tells her about Tia Patty and Claudio. Tracy is grief stricken.
El Viral tells Tonio this is so not true about Cameela and Pedro and Tonio tells her oh, it is true alright. Cameela comes to see El Viral and the first person she sees is Tonio. She goes up and slaps the crap out of him and yells at him about the plot and hiring Yenny. He tries to look so innocent, and he tells her it was all a plot by Lucrazy, but Cameela is not buying it. Cameela tells him she is marrying Pedro and to leave her alone. He leaves. El Viral says so it is true then, you are marrying Pedro. Cameela says yes. She cares about Tia Maria, Angel and Army, but she has no patience or time for El Viral. El Viral says oh Tia Maria always Tia Maria and Cameela says yes she has only ever shown me love. She says the only reason she came by was to tell El Viral she was getting married. She leaves.
Manuel and Mariana are still talking and she is happy Manuel is going to help her. She wants to have Tonio help, big anvil here, and she wants to know if in fact El Tal is hers. Manuel tells her first they have to find out who her friends are and who her enemies are.
Pedro calls Cameela and tells her what happened to Tia Patty and Claudio.
Panchito calls Pigorio about Tia Patty and Claudio. Pigorio doesn't care about them, he just wants info on Mariana.
Pigorio goes to Madame Brigette's and asks if Katerina is there. Her friend says she is there, he goes into the room and says Katerina is mio.
All the people at El Tal are in the living room talking about what happened and who could have done this? Sarita says oh Lucrazy did this to get venganza on you Pedro but Pedro thinks this is the wrong Negrete. He beleives it was Pigorio. They are all going to keep an eye on Margarito so he doesn't back slide. They want him to stay at El Tal.
Lucrazy is thought bubbling about Pedro and kissing him in front of Cameela, when Tonio comes in. She tells him she could just die. He says go ahead, then El Alcatrash will be mio. He is pithed off and goes and gets that bottle of poison that has El Viral's prints all over it and vows Pedro will die.
Nana and Flor talk about what a great relationship Army and Fabi have. Tracy comes in and tells Flor what happened to Claudio, Flor is inconsolable and cries her eyes out.
Pedro and Cameela talk and Pedro tells her Margarito has to process the fact that Claudio is dead. It will take some time.
Manuel is looking for Mariana. She is not in the room but left him a note telling him she has gone to El Tal to see Pedro. She takes a taxi to El Tal and gets out and is behind some flowering bush. She sees Pedro and Cameela talking about Margo and she says who is that woman with my husband? Mariana continues to spy on them. She says well that is definitley Pedro and that must be Cameela. She sure is pretty. All this time Cameela and Pedro don't see her and continue to talk about Margo and the loss of Claudio and how this will effect him. Mariana sees Pedro hug Cameela and she wants to know what is going on. Just then Manuel comes to El Tal and gets rid of the taxi. Just as he is walking up to El Tal, Tonio calls him and says he needs his help about finding out what happened to Mariana here in Fresno. Tonio tells him if you really want to help Mariana go back to LA cause Pedro is a very bad person. Mariana sees Pedro smoochy Cameela and she asks God to give her peace. Pedro is telling Cameela Tia Patty would have been so happy to see them married. Mariana thinks she wants to remember. Manuel finds Mariana and Mariana tells him what Tonio said was true. Pedro loves another woman. Manuel and Mariana go.
Pedro and Margarito are talking. Margo tells Pedro the whole reason he came to Fresno was to reconcile with Claudio and now that will never happen. Pedro swears to him they will find who did this.
Pigorio and Doris are in bed at Madame Brigette's. They have spent the night together and Doris wakes him up Mi Amoring him. He tells her damn you I need to be near you, I can't be without you. He tells her he is only hers. She wants to come back to El Alcatrash.
Tracy and Panchito are talking and she asks him if Pigorio is responsible for what happened to Tia Patty and Claudio. He doesn't answer.
Pedro is saying that Pigorio is definitley responsible for this car explosion and the deaths of the two people he loved, but is afraid Pigorio will escape punishment and is afraid the police won't be able to do anything.
Advances:
Pedro goes to El Alcatrash and decks Pigorio and calls him a murderer.
Mariana goes to El Alcatrash to talk to Tonio who is looking around to make sure noone sees them.
Doris and Tonio are arguing, Doris reminds him that Cameela will marry Pedro and not him, he claims Mariana is alive she says whatever and she tells him she is leaving.
Today on El Talisman:
El Capitan is in charge of the investigation into the bombing of Gabe's car. (ed note: I have to say here El Capitan is the hardest working cop since Comandante Leonardo Faidella in La Verdad Occulta). His assistant tells him the car belongs to a worker from El Talisman.
Gabe and Sarita talk to Geno and tell her that Pedro and Cameela are getting married. Geno is thrilled.
Rita and Rennie are talking about the money again from Tonio. Rennie tells her it will be complicated because he just doesn't trust Pigorio. Rita warns him if he doesn't get that money soon, she will go after Tonio herself. Rennie doesn't look happy.
Manuel and Mariana are at the Only Hotel in Fresno. Manuel asks her if she is remembering anything since they have been here. She says no and is a little perturbed. Manuel tells her to be calm and she will remember little by little. She says she doesn't feel safe in Fresno.
Panchito is still trying to get Pigorio to talk to him about Doris. Pigorio tells him you wouldn't understand.
Doris is at Madame Brigette's and she tells her that Pigorio threw her out of El Alcatrash because he is jealous of Tonio.
Cameela, Pedro and Margarito are talking. They tell her she should tell El Viral they are getting married, even though Cameela is reluctant she agrees.
El Viral is still with Lic Menendez. She is in a snit about the lawyer telling her she gets nothing. The lawyer asks her if she has thought of reconciling with Rennie. El Viral looks at him like he is crazy. She can't beleive she is getting nothing. She fires him and says she will get a way better lawyer than him. He tells her any other lawyer will tell her the same thing. She calls him crazy and a robber. Angel comes in and asks what all the ruckus is. She tells Angel, and Angel says I'll get you a phone book and look for another lawyer. Just be calm. In comes Army and El Viral tries to talk to him, but he is still mad at her for the way she treated Fabi. She asks are you going to meet Fabi and he says yeah. She is very upset.
El Capitan says to his assistant that he is going to do a thorough investigation of this car bombing and he has to go see Pedro at El Tal. He tells his assistant this has Pigorio's fingerprints all over it.
Manuel and Mariana have gone to an outdoor cafe. A waitress waits on them and keeps staring at Mariana. Manuel and Mariana are wanting to know why she is staring. She tells Manuel and Mariana that Mariana looks like the missing Pedro Ibarra's wife. They are both surprised.
El Capitan has come to El Tal and asks to meet with Pedro. He has very bad news.
El Viral is still fuming when Tonio shows up to see her. He tells her Cameela and Pedro are getting married and that he needs her help to break them up.
El Capitan tells Pedro about the car exploding. El Capitan wants to know who the car belongs to. Sarita comes in and says Tia Patty and Claudio were in that car, they took it to the airport. Sarita wants to know how they are, and what happened?
Lucas and Valentin are back at El Alcatrash. Valentin wants to tell Pigorio exactly what happened, but Lucas is trying to get him to lie and say they all died including Mariana. He tells Valentin that if Pigorio finds out Mariana didn't die in that explosion, there will be hell to pay. Valentin looks like he is going to be sick.
Manuel and Mariana are still talking at the cafe. Mariana thinks she ran away from Pedro because he tried to harm her, and if he finds out she is in Fresno he will do it again. Manuel is the voice of reason and asks her how can she be sure Pedro actually did this. She wants Manuel to help her. He assures her he will help her find out what really happened. She asks him if he thinks Pedro would harm her?
Pigorio tells Panchito to find Valentin, he needs to see him. Valentin walks into the office and Pigorio tells Panchito to go. Valentin tells Pigorio that two people are dead, but Mariana is not. Pigorio is having a cow, he wants her dead already.
Panchito tells Tracy there are some bad things going on right now at El Alcatrash. Tracy asks like what things, and Panchito says Tonio has caused all kinds of problems. Lucrazy comes in and tells Tracy she wants a meal and snap to it while she is snapping her fingers. Poor Tracy says I'm on it.
El Capitan tells Pedro that Tia Patty and Claudio are both dead in the car explosion. Just then Gabe, Sarita and Margarito come in and Pedro tells them what happened. They are all inconsolable and cry together. El Capitan says he will personally investigate this case. Margarito thinks this is punshiment from God for all of his drinking years and ignoring his son.
Valentin is thinking of the explosion and still looks sick. Tracy asks him what is wrong but he won't say. Sarita calls Tracy and tells her about Tia Patty and Claudio. Tracy is grief stricken.
El Viral tells Tonio this is so not true about Cameela and Pedro and Tonio tells her oh, it is true alright. Cameela comes to see El Viral and the first person she sees is Tonio. She goes up and slaps the crap out of him and yells at him about the plot and hiring Yenny. He tries to look so innocent, and he tells her it was all a plot by Lucrazy, but Cameela is not buying it. Cameela tells him she is marrying Pedro and to leave her alone. He leaves. El Viral says so it is true then, you are marrying Pedro. Cameela says yes. She cares about Tia Maria, Angel and Army, but she has no patience or time for El Viral. El Viral says oh Tia Maria always Tia Maria and Cameela says yes she has only ever shown me love. She says the only reason she came by was to tell El Viral she was getting married. She leaves.
Manuel and Mariana are still talking and she is happy Manuel is going to help her. She wants to have Tonio help, big anvil here, and she wants to know if in fact El Tal is hers. Manuel tells her first they have to find out who her friends are and who her enemies are.
Pedro calls Cameela and tells her what happened to Tia Patty and Claudio.
Panchito calls Pigorio about Tia Patty and Claudio. Pigorio doesn't care about them, he just wants info on Mariana.
Pigorio goes to Madame Brigette's and asks if Katerina is there. Her friend says she is there, he goes into the room and says Katerina is mio.
All the people at El Tal are in the living room talking about what happened and who could have done this? Sarita says oh Lucrazy did this to get venganza on you Pedro but Pedro thinks this is the wrong Negrete. He beleives it was Pigorio. They are all going to keep an eye on Margarito so he doesn't back slide. They want him to stay at El Tal.
Lucrazy is thought bubbling about Pedro and kissing him in front of Cameela, when Tonio comes in. She tells him she could just die. He says go ahead, then El Alcatrash will be mio. He is pithed off and goes and gets that bottle of poison that has El Viral's prints all over it and vows Pedro will die.
Nana and Flor talk about what a great relationship Army and Fabi have. Tracy comes in and tells Flor what happened to Claudio, Flor is inconsolable and cries her eyes out.
Pedro and Cameela talk and Pedro tells her Margarito has to process the fact that Claudio is dead. It will take some time.
Manuel is looking for Mariana. She is not in the room but left him a note telling him she has gone to El Tal to see Pedro. She takes a taxi to El Tal and gets out and is behind some flowering bush. She sees Pedro and Cameela talking about Margo and she says who is that woman with my husband? Mariana continues to spy on them. She says well that is definitley Pedro and that must be Cameela. She sure is pretty. All this time Cameela and Pedro don't see her and continue to talk about Margo and the loss of Claudio and how this will effect him. Mariana sees Pedro hug Cameela and she wants to know what is going on. Just then Manuel comes to El Tal and gets rid of the taxi. Just as he is walking up to El Tal, Tonio calls him and says he needs his help about finding out what happened to Mariana here in Fresno. Tonio tells him if you really want to help Mariana go back to LA cause Pedro is a very bad person. Mariana sees Pedro smoochy Cameela and she asks God to give her peace. Pedro is telling Cameela Tia Patty would have been so happy to see them married. Mariana thinks she wants to remember. Manuel finds Mariana and Mariana tells him what Tonio said was true. Pedro loves another woman. Manuel and Mariana go.
Pedro and Margarito are talking. Margo tells Pedro the whole reason he came to Fresno was to reconcile with Claudio and now that will never happen. Pedro swears to him they will find who did this.
Pigorio and Doris are in bed at Madame Brigette's. They have spent the night together and Doris wakes him up Mi Amoring him. He tells her damn you I need to be near you, I can't be without you. He tells her he is only hers. She wants to come back to El Alcatrash.
Tracy and Panchito are talking and she asks him if Pigorio is responsible for what happened to Tia Patty and Claudio. He doesn't answer.
Pedro is saying that Pigorio is definitley responsible for this car explosion and the deaths of the two people he loved, but is afraid Pigorio will escape punishment and is afraid the police won't be able to do anything.
Advances:
Pedro goes to El Alcatrash and decks Pigorio and calls him a murderer.
Mariana goes to El Alcatrash to talk to Tonio who is looking around to make sure noone sees them.
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This was a really sad episode and so many things happened. I am worried about Mariana. I hope Manuel sticks to her like glue.
I am really liking El Capitan. And he does remind me of Comandante Faidella from LVO a no nonsense cop and one that goes with the evidence. He is all over Fresno solving crimes. lol.
Thanks for the recap Madelaine. I too am concerned about Mariana. Since we actually have a good cop in this show, El Capitan, I kept telling Manuel go to the police. And yes Manuel needs to be on Mariana like white on rice.
I'm glad the captain already sensing Piggy's behind this. He should constantly harass the Pig like Columbo.
Were you the one who predicted Mariana would block the Pedro/Cammie wedding? Well, the groundwork is being laid for that snafu right now (once Mariana gets convinced Pedro isn't trying to kill her).
I'm glad the captain already sensing Piggy's behind this. He should constantly harass the Pig like Columbo.
Were you the one who predicted Mariana would block the Pedro/Cammie wedding? Well, the groundwork is being laid for that snafu right now (once Mariana gets convinced Pedro isn't trying to kill her).
Karen- it wasn't me it was Blue Lass. It's funny how people that know Mariana are around her and never see her. I think Blue Lass is right. I think Mariana will interrupt the wedding. I think Tonio is going to try and keep her out of sight. He knows Pigorio wants to kill her, plus he wants to stop this wedding and he will use Mariana to do it.
Thanks Madelaine. You are awesome.
I think NOW is when Antonio is going to use that fake newspaper article. He'll show it to Mariana to convince her that Pedro is suspected of killing her.
The new writers are doing better but the continuity folks need to get on the ball. In case you missed the THREEpeat, Mariana said "ay dios mio, que me pasa, ayudame a recordar por favor" Tres veces.
Sounded to me like Pig asked Brigette if she was ready to get back to work. Could she be an asesina? Did she bump off Mrs. Pig?
I want to see Renato and Elvira come face to face. I am not sated with that relationship just yet.
I think NOW is when Antonio is going to use that fake newspaper article. He'll show it to Mariana to convince her that Pedro is suspected of killing her.
The new writers are doing better but the continuity folks need to get on the ball. In case you missed the THREEpeat, Mariana said "ay dios mio, que me pasa, ayudame a recordar por favor" Tres veces.
Sounded to me like Pig asked Brigette if she was ready to get back to work. Could she be an asesina? Did she bump off Mrs. Pig?
I want to see Renato and Elvira come face to face. I am not sated with that relationship just yet.
R La O- you are so right. She kept repeating it. Maybe they didn't want to give her any other lines while she was watching Cameela and Pedro. Also agree about Rennie and El Viral. I think El Viral is going to attempt to do something when she gets wind of Rennie getting money from Tonio. I don't know about the article though. I hope that is really a dead issue. I don't know if Mariana could use that to stop the wedding, cause she is already afraid of Pedro and thought he had done something to her, and Tonio keeps pressing the point.
Great recap Madelaine! Oh my so sad, two bombings in one day. First El Tal and then Abismo. That's too much wailing and gnashing of teeth for one day.
Finally the writers are weaving an actual tale! They are setting it up so 1) Mariana thinks Pedro is bad, lots if little bits of circumstantial evidence including the waitress who said everyone thinks Pedro killed his wife, and 2) Mariana said she was feeling "something" for Pedro. So yep, I agree she will be an impediment for the wedding, since she doesn't really know what "it" is that she is feeling.
I'm not sure how Manuel can stick to her if she keeps running away though.
I love how Pigorio and Tonio are always on about MIO MIO MIO. And Panchito is starting to get into it too.
Thanks Madelaine. Just super!
Finally the writers are weaving an actual tale! They are setting it up so 1) Mariana thinks Pedro is bad, lots if little bits of circumstantial evidence including the waitress who said everyone thinks Pedro killed his wife, and 2) Mariana said she was feeling "something" for Pedro. So yep, I agree she will be an impediment for the wedding, since she doesn't really know what "it" is that she is feeling.
I'm not sure how Manuel can stick to her if she keeps running away though.
I love how Pigorio and Tonio are always on about MIO MIO MIO. And Panchito is starting to get into it too.
Thanks Madelaine. Just super!
Madelaine--This is dedication, pure and simple. Thank you for a terrific recap.
A couple of amplifications--
1. I think Bermudez rented them an apartment. Mariana was a little surprised because she didn't think they needed to be there that long. He wanted her to be in the environment they think she came from to help her remember and that it might take some time.
2. What made Elviral especially angry as Lic. Menendez left was that he'd send her a bill. She couldn't believe it because he didn't DO anything for her. He said that's the way it is, lady and left. That was funny.
I'm finally liking El Capitan better, too. I didn't think he had figured out it was a bombing yet. He told his assistant that it looked like an electrical malfunction (bad news for Ford Fusion owners....). He *did* say it had Piggorio's fingerprints all over it, so maybe he figured out it was more likely a bomb.
Poor Magarito. He said there wasn't enough body left to bury in a coffin. All he'll have are cenizas.
Lucky Elvira if Blue Lass' prognosis is correct and it's Mariana that interrupts the wedding. She won't have to double cross Tonio and get a beating or be killed and she won't have to prevent Camila and Pedro's wedding--something she went All-Viral for a couple of days ago.
Mariana will probably be safe with Tonio. Don G wants her dead; Tonio wants her alive to put the kabosh on the wedding.
RLO--I think you hit the nail on the head. I hope the new writing team remembers that he had that fake newspaper done. Hopefully, El Capitan will remember that it was not the way it happened and checks out the newspaper archives of the Fresno Underground Gazette for the real story.
Anita
A couple of amplifications--
1. I think Bermudez rented them an apartment. Mariana was a little surprised because she didn't think they needed to be there that long. He wanted her to be in the environment they think she came from to help her remember and that it might take some time.
2. What made Elviral especially angry as Lic. Menendez left was that he'd send her a bill. She couldn't believe it because he didn't DO anything for her. He said that's the way it is, lady and left. That was funny.
I'm finally liking El Capitan better, too. I didn't think he had figured out it was a bombing yet. He told his assistant that it looked like an electrical malfunction (bad news for Ford Fusion owners....). He *did* say it had Piggorio's fingerprints all over it, so maybe he figured out it was more likely a bomb.
Poor Magarito. He said there wasn't enough body left to bury in a coffin. All he'll have are cenizas.
Lucky Elvira if Blue Lass' prognosis is correct and it's Mariana that interrupts the wedding. She won't have to double cross Tonio and get a beating or be killed and she won't have to prevent Camila and Pedro's wedding--something she went All-Viral for a couple of days ago.
Mariana will probably be safe with Tonio. Don G wants her dead; Tonio wants her alive to put the kabosh on the wedding.
RLO--I think you hit the nail on the head. I hope the new writing team remembers that he had that fake newspaper done. Hopefully, El Capitan will remember that it was not the way it happened and checks out the newspaper archives of the Fresno Underground Gazette for the real story.
Anita
Thank you Anita for the amplifications. Now I feel even worse for Margarito. That is just way too awful. That was too funny about El Viral and the bill from the Lic. lol. I am glad he is billing her.
I didn't realize Manuel had rented an apartment. I wonder if it is in Tia Maria's building?
I didn't realize Manuel had rented an apartment. I wonder if it is in Tia Maria's building?
And then when El Capitan reports in to work wearing a dinner plate belt buckle we will know he also visited the clearance sale at Tal-Mart.
R La O-so agree with you about the beltbuckle lol.
I thought the look on Tonio's face was so funny when Cameela slapped the crap out of Tonio. He looked oh, so innocent, yeah right. I am so glad Cameela didn't buy into that. I am also glad that Cameela is not buying El Viral's whining anymore. Good for Cameela to stand up to her.
I thought the look on Tonio's face was so funny when Cameela slapped the crap out of Tonio. He looked oh, so innocent, yeah right. I am so glad Cameela didn't buy into that. I am also glad that Cameela is not buying El Viral's whining anymore. Good for Cameela to stand up to her.
Actually, I thought Antonio looked like he did as a boy when his dad was hitting him. His shocked, teary-eyed expression kind of made me feel bad for him. I am glad Camila didn't buy into it, but unfortunately I almost did.
Sorry Madelaine. Thanks for posting. Blue Lass thanks for your recap.
I still can't believe they killed both Tia Patty, the smartest and most sensible person (though Tia Maria runs a close second) on this show. And poor Margarito first alcoholism and now the death of his son.
I still can't believe they killed both Tia Patty, the smartest and most sensible person (though Tia Maria runs a close second) on this show. And poor Margarito first alcoholism and now the death of his son.
Karen, I'm sorry. I did the recap and posted Blue Lass is the one that predicted Mariana would block the Pedro/Cammie wedding. Sometimes I make my answers short, I should have explained better. Sorry for that.
On reflection R La O you are right. I just thought it was funny cause I love his facial expressions. He hardly ever gets that look on his face. He is either snarling or so po'd he screws his face up. The only time he gets that innocent look is when he thinks about Pig beating him as a child, or when Pig is trying to belittle him. I hate any form of child abuse, and especially Pig's abuse of him. I wonder if Tonio can be redeemed. I would like him to be, he hasn't killed anyone, but he really is a violent one.
On reflection R La O you are right. I just thought it was funny cause I love his facial expressions. He hardly ever gets that look on his face. He is either snarling or so po'd he screws his face up. The only time he gets that innocent look is when he thinks about Pig beating him as a child, or when Pig is trying to belittle him. I hate any form of child abuse, and especially Pig's abuse of him. I wonder if Tonio can be redeemed. I would like him to be, he hasn't killed anyone, but he really is a violent one.
Blue - Sorry... I missed that it was you who did the re-cap. Thanks so much. You make it as clear as a limpid pool.
Still, when I only have time to watch one I am choosing El Tal and then catching up with Abismo on the weekends. I just feel better and lighter after watching El Tal. Abismo leaves me feeling encumbered.
Also, Blue, I left you a little note over on Abismo's comments.
Still, when I only have time to watch one I am choosing El Tal and then catching up with Abismo on the weekends. I just feel better and lighter after watching El Tal. Abismo leaves me feeling encumbered.
Also, Blue, I left you a little note over on Abismo's comments.
Miss Chica Azul, mil disculpas for not realizing this was your recap. I'm so embarrased! I hope this comment gets through, I am in an area where the wi-fi is weak and spotty so I'll keep it short. More later tonight...
Hi everyone. I did this recap and posted it. Blue Lass predicted that Mariana would break up the Pedro/Cammie wedding. I am sorry there was such a mix-up.
Cap'n please don't be embarrased. I too am glad we have such wonderful commentators and that we all are such amigas/amigos here.
Mil ocho mil gracias for the recap, Madelaine! I'm so glad y'all are keeping on with this show...it's gotten so good!
I've had the whole weekend to process and I STILL can't believe they killed off Tia Patty and Claudio. NOOOOOO!!! I like it better when Antonio and Lucrecia and blundering along trying to be villainous and failing miserably.
I have a niece who is in the same MIO MIO MIO phase all Los Negrete are in...she's only three.
I'm still amazed Pigorio suffered absolutely no consequences when he beat up Mariana and gave her amnesia and killed her baby. Isn't it time Antonio exploited that to get his father out of the way? Plus, that would be something he and Pedro would actually agree on. I'd kind of like to see them team up and force themselves to work together on something even though they can't stand each other.
One thing that's bothering me...Mariana grew up in Fresno and lived there until she was kidnapped. Her parents owned a well-known ranch. There was publicity when she went missing. Shouldn't a lot of people recognize her around town? And as herself, not just "Pedro's wife"? Doesn't she have any old friends still kicking around town?
I wish we would get some flashbacks to when Antonio, Lucrecia, Doris, and Mariana were all in school. Lucrazy I guess went to boarding school, but I'd be interested in what the dynamic was between the rest of them back then. I'd also be interested in how A and D handled parenting when they were so young. Presumably at that point she wasn't working at the whorehouse and he wasn't a drunk yet.
I've had the whole weekend to process and I STILL can't believe they killed off Tia Patty and Claudio. NOOOOOO!!! I like it better when Antonio and Lucrecia and blundering along trying to be villainous and failing miserably.
I have a niece who is in the same MIO MIO MIO phase all Los Negrete are in...she's only three.
I'm still amazed Pigorio suffered absolutely no consequences when he beat up Mariana and gave her amnesia and killed her baby. Isn't it time Antonio exploited that to get his father out of the way? Plus, that would be something he and Pedro would actually agree on. I'd kind of like to see them team up and force themselves to work together on something even though they can't stand each other.
One thing that's bothering me...Mariana grew up in Fresno and lived there until she was kidnapped. Her parents owned a well-known ranch. There was publicity when she went missing. Shouldn't a lot of people recognize her around town? And as herself, not just "Pedro's wife"? Doesn't she have any old friends still kicking around town?
I wish we would get some flashbacks to when Antonio, Lucrecia, Doris, and Mariana were all in school. Lucrazy I guess went to boarding school, but I'd be interested in what the dynamic was between the rest of them back then. I'd also be interested in how A and D handled parenting when they were so young. Presumably at that point she wasn't working at the whorehouse and he wasn't a drunk yet.
Julia you are so right. I like all the points you brought up. I was wondering too why the waitress was the only one so far that recognized Mariana. Manuel and Mariana were walking all over town and the airport, you would think someone would recognize them. I too would like more flashbacks to find out how Lucrazy got so crazy and if they all went to school together. I also want to know if Dr. Manuel is the love El Viral and Maria were arguing over.
With the parenting of A and D I think maybe Nana did most of that. Doris doesn't really seem too interested in them, but Tonio actually does. I want to know how Doris ended up working for Madame Brigette and when she started.
With the parenting of A and D I think maybe Nana did most of that. Doris doesn't really seem too interested in them, but Tonio actually does. I want to know how Doris ended up working for Madame Brigette and when she started.
Can someone tell me, if Pedro's birth certificate and baptism papers were burn with Tia Patricia and Claudio, how is he planning on getting married? Also, don't think the bottle that Tonio has with Elvira's fingerprint will work, because the minute she tells Pigorio that Tonio gave her the bottle, Piggy will go after Tonio to get him out of the way.
The problem here and we will see for the next 30 episodes wil be Mariana giving Pedro a hard time, while Cami splits.
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The problem here and we will see for the next 30 episodes wil be Mariana giving Pedro a hard time, while Cami splits.
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