Friday, April 20, 2012

La Que No Podía Amar #82 Thursday 4/19/12 The Woman Who Couldn't Tell Her Husband the Truth About Her Baby Daddy

I have this horrible feeling that since so much happened last night nothing's going to happen tonight. We shall see…

Gus refuses to have a serious conversation with Rogelio while he's drink. Maria eavesdrops from the hallway and is able to give Gus a pleading look. She interrupts Rogelio's drunken ranting and tries to get him to go have a bath and a coffee. He starts smooching on Maria and says she's the only one who really knows him. He cries on her bosoms about how Paula had given him hope and he wanted to run through the fields with her. Maria tries to soothe him and get him to go to his room, and though she fails, he drinks enough to pass out. Maria grabs Gus and pulls him out of the room. So, lemme just make sure I'm understanding this…Ana Paula had the ovaries to tell Rogelio she's pregnant, but Gus, for all his insistence, didn't have the balls to tell Rogelio he's the baby daddy? I just want to make sure I'm getting all the details correct.

Out in the hallway, Maria thanks Gus for not saying he's the baby daddy. Gus says he'll do it when Rog is sober. He doesn't want Rogelio arguing with AP and putting her and the baby in danger. He then says he'll tell Rog not to fight with AP, but he won't say that he's the father unless Rogelio doesn't stop upsetting her.

Macaria got Consuelo out of the house early to talk to her about Efrain. She tries the whole "It's not what you think!" She blames Ulises for leaving them alone on vacation, then talks about needing to feel more important than the business. Consuelo says she won't say anything, but only because Ulises doesn't deserve to suffer. She tells Macaria not to thank her for it. She also won't tell her who the "other" woman is who Efrain's in love with. And then she says she won't work for her after today.

Rosaura goes into Rogelio's office to wake him up. Rude awakening, that. He wields a bottle at her…aw, damn, she moves away too fast! She tells him she wants to help him. "What can I do so you'll be calm? Over my niece's stupidity. I imagine you'd rather she didn't have the baby." Rog is shocked at her lack of limits and says she has no soul. He tells Rosaura the merchandise she sold him (AP) is defective, so she can just get the hell out. Maria chews her out for making things worse. Rogelio hears Maria say that AP and the baby are both at risk of dying. That sobers him up pretty quick. All hail the master manipulatrix!

Efrain goes to the fonda and tries to flirt with Consuelo. She lets him know that she saw him kissing Macaria last night.

Dany is watching over AP as she sleeps. Rogelio comes in and she tells him AP is very delicate. Rogelio says he knows and he swears he won't do anything bad, but he wants to be alone with her. Dany leaves. Rogelio tells her he needs her to get better. He apologizes and says he didn't know she was in danger of…he says she'll get better because he'll take care of her.

Efrain tells Consuelo to sit down. He tells her not to tell Ulises. She won't say she won't, but she does say that the only reason she didn't rat him out for sleeping with Cinthia is so that his death at Rogelio's hands wouldn't be on her conscience. She tells him she won't tell Ulises, but only because he's suffering enough right now. Consuelo is finally over Efrain and his BS. He asks if she's going to go running to Miguel now that she knows he didn't kill Maripaz. Macaria comes over and hisses that the three of them have to talk.

Gus is moping outside when Cinthia finds him. She praises Gus for not saying he's the baby daddy. He tells her the only reason he did it was because Rog was drunk as a skunk!


Ernesto comes in to see AP. Rogelio reads him the riot act for not telling him AP was sick. Ern tries to claim doctor-patient confidentiality, but Rog pulls rank. "You don't work for 'the patient,' you work for me!" He releases his grip on Ernesto's wrist after a shocked look from Ernesto.

Macaria begs them to meet later, where Ulises can't see them. Efrain tries to convince Consuelo that what they're doing isn't so bad. I mean, it's not like he wants her to leave Ulises or anything. Ulises is his friend. This is just a passing thing. Macaria makes a face like this is the first she's heard that this is just a passing thing! But she agrees with him. Consuelo says more power to them, but they'd better think about how much they can hurt Ulises. Macaria doesn't like the way things are getting so complicated. Efrain tells her to chill and they'll talk later…alone.

Ernesto explains that between the anemia and the stress AP's not only having a high-risk pregnancy, but she's at risk of death herself. Rogelio wants to throw money at the problem and insists on hearing about treatments and not problems, but Ernesto says the only thing to do is keep her from getting upset. Otherwise it's not just the baby that could die.

Over at Team Evil HQ, Bruno says it's time to amp up the pressure on Rogelio. Vanessa whines that even with the water shortage, AP is just spending a fortune to have it piped in. She says she'd better not find out that Estupido and Estupider had anything to do with the clenbuterol fiasco. She completely lost the business with the Americans and now she had to pay a much higher price for Abel's cattle since she was buying them last minute. The boys keep insisting they had nothing to do with the clenbuterol. Bruno tells her that now that Cinthia is in charge of the hacienda, she should take advantage of her complete lack of experience and negotiate with her. David is surprised to hear Cinthia is in charge. Bruno reminds Vanessa that she was so upset after Rogelio left her at the altar that she swore revenge…although she seems to be softening lately, especially now that AP is pregnant. "Awww, did you think you might still have a chance with him? I wouldn't count on it!" David fakes surprise about AP's pregnancy and says "Hmmm, I wonder who the baby daddy could be." Vanessa is so gonna kick those asses' asses when she finds out what they did. And with her pointy shoes that's no laughing matter!

Gustavo wants Cinthia to at least consider telling Rogelio about the problems with the clenbuterol contamination and the water. He reminds her that digging a well could be the solution to their water problems and says that maybe if Rogelio knew what was happening he might have an idea about who could be behind the clenbuterol. He takes off to go see AP, but Ernesto stops him. Gustavo tries to insist on his parental rights, but Ernesto reminds him that Rogelio is the husband, this is his house, and for cripes sake, someone needs to keep a calm head around here! Cinthia tells him to think about the baby.

Miguel and Dany are watching over AP. They talk about how it's going to be tough to keep Gustavo away from AP so that Rogelio doesn't find out he's the baby daddy. AP wakes up, sort of, and says she feels tired and sleepy and she's worried about what's going to happen now that Rogelio knows about the baby, even though he doesn't know about Gustavo. She doesn't want to stay there, but Dany tells her she can't go anywhere. Plus she's still worried about Miguel's conditional liberty. Miguel says he's not afraid to go back to prison, but AP can't go anywhere until she's out of danger. Dany says no matter how upset Rogelio is, he's not going to kick her out if her life is at risk.

Ernesto tells Gus that for now Rogelio wants to take care of AP, but he might change his mind if he finds out about Gustavo. Gus doesn't know how everything got so screwed up. He's all fixated on how AP's "confused" about her feelings. Ernesto's like, "dude, hormones! Who the hell wouldn't be confused?" Gus is all pissed off that Rogelio has feelings for AP. Ernesto says he thinks Gus should fight till the end, the way he did with Mercedes…as long as he can keep his dignity. Whatever that means.

AP needs to talk to Bruno to find out what the contract has to say about all this. She knows he's Rogelio's employee, but she needs to figure out whose side he'll be on. Rosaura comes in just as she's saying that they can't accept any more help from Rogelio. Rosaura begs AP to reconcile with him so they don't lose everything they have. AP is pissed that Rosaura's only thinking about money. And that everyone was right about her all along. Miguel tells her they'll find a way to survive, but they're going to do it without pimping out his sister!

Mercedes knew that Gustavo would behave like this. Cinthia isn't sure if Rogelio would hurt AP or the baby. "With Paula he always behaves the opposite of how I thought he would." Cinthia blames it all on AP. She begs Mercedes to agree they won't fight, no matter what happens with their brothers. She thinks Rogelio won't forgive Paula this time and she'll be out on her ass as soon as she's back on her feet.

Rogelio has gotten himself cleaned up and comes into AP's room. He asks everyone to let him talk to his wife. Miguel is reluctant to leave, but he gets up and leaves them alone. AP starts in saying she knows he never wants to see her again and she'd leave right away if only…Rogelio interrupts her and says he knows she's not doing well and there's no way she's leaving. "I'm not a monster like everyone thinks. You're still my wife, and you have a contract to fulfill. It doesn't matter what I said. Now that you're doing so badly, you're staying, but obviously under my conditions. A child is the only thing I couldn't give you, but you got one anyway, so you'll stay and finish out the contract and your child will be mine." Oh, no, that didn't sound creepy at all.

Vanessa muscles her way into the hacienda. Cinthia tells Efrain that Vanessa can come in, as long as she doesn't give orders to the contrary. Vanessa says they'll talk about the cattle later…what she wants to know is if Rogelio kicked out AP yet. Vanessa gloats that they can watch her leave from the hallway. Cinthia says she can't go anywhere, at least not according to Ernesto. Cin would rather that AP lost the baby and then got the hell out of all their lives. She suggests she and Vanessa move their gloating to a more secure location.

Rogelio explains that he wants AP to stay married to him and that the baby, like Margaro, will be part of the family they'll create together. Since the boyfriend is out of the picture, like she said, and the baby's really the only thing keeping them apart, and since she told him she maybe-kinda-sorta had feelings for him, well, it all makes perfect sense in Rogeliolandia given all of AP's misinformation. She's shocked that he would suggest this. She thought he was hella-pissed! Rog says he's not giving up without a fight. He wants her lock, stock and baby! AP hesitates, but Margarito, who's been listening at the door, comes running in and tells her to take the deal. "We can stay here with him and your baby will be ok!" Rogelio's like, "Wait, what? Leaving was an option?" He tells AP that he hopes she wouldn't take Margaro away without telling him.

Cinthia tells Vanessa she doesn't want Rogelio to know what's going on or he'll be even less willing to give her her part of the hacienda. Vanessa's like, "Woman, it's not enough to have the title of 'boss'…you actually have to know what the hell you're doing! Which you don't. So let me and the rest of your alleged friends who have only the best interests of our own selves advise you." Speaking of which, here comes Bruno, praising the girls for getting over their spat. Vanessa says she came to console Rogelio and smarms off to do it. Cinthia tells Bruno she needs to talk to him about what's going on, cause as far as she can tell, he's not fixing anything. Bruno says he's working on all of it. "Um, no...Gustavo's working on the water problem. You said I have to prove to the authorities who bought the clenbuterol, but I have no idea who did it, so I'm still the one responsible. That's not helping me! You're failing me in everything! Weren't you also going to get rid of Margarito?" Bruno reminds her he called the authorities. "I don't know what it's going to cost or how you're going to do it, but I'm going to snap my fingers, and you're going to solve all my problems, cause that's the way things get done around here, see?" Oh, poor Cinthia. Nobody told her the finger snap only works when you're wearing Eau de Protagonista.

Consuelo and Macaria angrily set a table in the fonda. Ulises notes the mood and he won't take "nothing" for an answer. Consuelo says they had a fight over Efrain. He's still flirting with the ladies and Macaria told her to forget him, but she just can't. Ulises agrees that Efrain is a womanizer, even though he is a good friend. Pobre de Ulises. Another one with bad taste in friends.

Vanessa goes to visit Ana Paula. What happened to all the watchdogs? Vanessa gloats that Rogelio has finally figured out what kind of woman she is. She hopes Rogelio won't have any compassion for her. She won't be happy until AP is out of Rogelio's life. "If I were you, I'd start packing up your rags!" She does the finger snap. Doesn't work for her either.

Vanessa continues the gloating in predictable fashion. AP defends herself, as usual. Vanessa leaves after promising to get Rogelio back as soon as AP leaves.

Miguel is working on some furniture. Dany is happy to see it. Miguel's in his zen zone when he's working with wood. He plans to make a crib for his nephew.

Rosaura is thrilled to hear that Rogelio intends to keep AP and the baby. She congratulates her and tries to feed her soup, but AP doesn't want any. She goes back to being thrilled about the money and AP chews her out for it. Rosaura takes the tray since AP won't eat. "Well, fine, but we don't want anything to happen to the heir of the hacienda, do we? You have to eat." Rosaura leaves.

She runs into Gus in the hallway and tells him AP is resting, so he needs to leave her alone. She tells him Rogelio and AP made up and Rogelio is going to accept AP and her child because he loves her. "So be a good loser and let them be happy." Gus swears Rogelio won't have AP or his baby! Dun, dun, dun!

Bruno tells Rogelio he heard about what happened, but all is not lost. The baby she's carrying could legally be his. Dun, dun, dun!

Rosaura giggles at Gustavo for thinking he and AP would raise that child. "Don't you realize Rogelio's power?" Gus says he'll do all the necessary tests to prove it's his kid. He won't listen to any more from Rosaura. She says he won't ruin her plans. Dun, dun, dun!

Bruno's explanation is that Mexican law protects families. If a married woman gets pregnant it doesn't matter whose baby it is. Her husband can claim it as his and he gets all the same rights and responsibilities as he would if he were the biological father. Rog says that sounds interesting. Bruno offers to review the contract, but Rogelio says not now. He'd rather Bruno go talk to Gustavo about what's going on with the water. He thinks he remembers Gustavo being in his office last night, but he's not sure. He turns down Bruno's offer to ask Maria about it and just tells him to go. Rogelio muses that AP's baby could carry on the family name.

Vanessa brags to Cinthia that she told AP to get the hell out. Cin is glad that Vanessa put her in her place. She hopes that Vanessa upset her enough to make her lose the baby. Vanessa looks horrified at that idea, like she hadn't considered the possibility. Dumbasses, the both of them!

AP's rest is interrupted by Gus. Dude! If she's sleeping, let her sleep! What is wrong with him! He kisses her hand and tells her everything has to turn out ok. He leaves just in time for AP to wake up and see him and wonder if it was really him.

Consuelo is distracted and forgetting to bring people their orders. She can't stop thinking about Ulises and how he thinks Efrain is his friend. Macaria doesn't want to talk about it. She tells Consuelo she's just being jealous. "I may still be in love with him, but I know what I'm worth. You know he's not being serious about you! Have some self-respect instead of being ok that he's with someone else too!" Consuelo leaves and tells Macaria she'd better go take the guest his coffee.

Rog tells AP he doesn't want to upset her, but he would like to know if she's thought about his offer. AP stalls, saying she has to talk to the baby daddy first, cause he's got rights. Rogelio is fine with that. In fact, he'd like her to get the baby daddy there so he can negotiate with him. AP is appalled that he's talking about "negotiating" but Rogelio says she's the one forcing him to treat this like a business arrangement and keep all the feelings out of it. He somewhat reasonably gives her the phone and tells her to call and get the baby daddy there right away. Eek!

Tomorrow: seems like a done deal that Rogelio will adopt the baby and Gus isn't happy about it.

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Gus is bugging me. When was the last time he said he loved Ana Paula instead of saying he doesn't want Rogelio to have her or his child? Hmmm.

RL Update: Last week's shoot went well. No further auditions or performances for acting, but I'm singing Brahms' Schicksalslied and Nanie with The Phoenix Symphony Chorus this weekend. Gorgeous music!
 

Well if Rogelio wanted to prove he's not a monster, he failed. He needs to stop pressuring AP and risking her life, and start putting a lock on that door! Only Dani and Miguel get a key. And Ernesto. But that's it.

They can sort out the whole paternity stuff later. Sheesh.

Kelly
 

The best part of the show was Ernesto reminding that nitwit Gustavo of whose house he was in, and who is Ana's husband.

I have never understood the importance of Margarito. That kid has irked me since the first time he opened his mouth.

Overall a very forgetable show.

P.S. I can't wait until the day Rogelio is able to walk hand and hand with his amor. ***sigh***
 

The best part of the show was Ernesto reminding that nitwit Gustavo of whose house he was in, and who is Ana's husband.

I have never understood the importance of Margarito. That kid has irked me since the first time he opened his mouth.

Overall a very forgetable show.

P.S. I can't wait until the day Rogelio is able to walk hand and hand with his amor. ***sigh***
 

Kat, this sizzled. The snark was sensational but your insightful comments were spectacular as well:"Ana Paula had the ovaries to tell Rogelio she's pregnant, but Gus, for all his insistence, didn't have the balls to tell Rogelio he's the baby daddy?"

I keep wondering, how much crazier can this get?? I think you answered that the lunacy has and will continue: "A child is the only thing I couldn't give you, but you got one anyway, so you'll stay and finish out the contract and your child will be mine." Oh, no, that didn't sound creepy at all." ITA.

The child and Ana are people whose well being and happiness should be at the forefront, rather than whose possession they are. It seems both Gus and Rogelio are somewhat guilty of being overly possessive of what they think is "theirs". I can't even begin to think how this will all be resolved.

I'm glad that everyone is clear that Tia is a money hungry, manipulative lying witch.

I want Consuelo to stop crying and find a man who's worthy of her.

On a lighter note, did anyone else think Ana Martin was trying to stifle a laugh when Jorge Salinas "cried into her bosoms?" She looked like she was going to lose it for a minute and then pulled back - like the pro she is.

Kelly, I like your idea of the lock and key - I would only suggest that Maria have one too.

Thanks Kat! Best of luck with the Symphony Chorus this weekend.

Diana
 

Thanks so much, Kat, for another terrific recap. It cleared up some events that went right by me, and delighted me all the way through. I loved "He wields a bottle at her…aw, damn, she moves away too fast!" and "Estupido and Estupider," and also the bit about the finger snap only working if you're wearing Eau de Protagonista.

I disagree that Gustavo didn't have the balls to tell Rogelio that he was the baby daddy. I think Gustavo had a rare bit of common sense and restraint in not telling a very drunk and out of control Rogelio news that might not only upset him but also possibly result in his harming AP and the baby.

I loved the fact that AP is finally seeing her aunt for the crass money-grubber that she is. Now if only she'd get a clue about Bruno.

I found it interesting that when Rogelio asked first Dani and then Miguel to leave the room so he could be alone with AP, he thanked each of them for doing so. That seemed almost out of character for Rogelio and perhaps a sign of just how much change AP has wrought.

Good luck with the Symphony Chorus.
 

Great work, Kat. My favorite lines:

She suggests she and Vanessa move their gloating to a more secure location.

Vanessa's like, "Woman, it's not enough to have the title of 'boss'…you actually have to know what the hell you're doing! Which you don't. So let me and the rest of your alleged friends who have only the best interests of our own selves advise you."

Vanessa goes to visit Ana Paula. What happened to all the watchdogs?


We had a couple of episodes without her, so I guess Vainessa is making up for lost time. On other notes:

Isn't this the second time Rogelio told Rosaura she has no soul? I guess that means that when she dies of her fake heart condition she can't be buried in hallowed ground. Works for me.

I'm sure he was being sarcastic with regard to "defective merchandise" but I doubt she won't use that against him if it suits her purpose.

Bruno was acquainted Rogelio with the Law of Presumptive Paternity, or the legal assumption that he would be the father of AP's baby simply because he's her husband. Which could be blown to hell if there is a DNA test.

Poor Consuelo. She needs somebody worthy of her and right now it looks like that guy should be Hugo, since Dani passed up her chance at him.

Goosetavo is still immature in this situation. He isn't overly concerned about the consequences of Rogelio knowing the truth. Mercedes no doubt has some responsibility for that.

Ernesto can certainly hide behind patient confidentiality; it doesn't matter who pays the bill or how the patient is related to the person paying the bill. There are certain things money can't -- or shouldn't be able to -- buy.

Of all the people who know that Goosetavo is the father of the baby, the only one we probably should worry about spilling the beans outside of Goosetavo himself is Vainessa. At this point she will probably think friendship be damned and go against her previous promise to Sinthia.

Rogelio needs to be distracted from what we left him off from. Somebody needs to tell him about the clenbuterol problem. That's the one thing Rosaura could be useful for although she is the one he's least likely to believe.
 

Entertaining recap, 5 ft; loved "Estupido and Estupider."
I don't think that was the right time for Gus to tell Rohell he's the father, but now would be a good time. But then, a lot of the tension would go out of the story after they butted heads for a while; so you know that secret will be kept until maximum effect.
I'm for Rohell, too; but ya gotta cut poor little old Gus some slack. He's hanging in their bravely like a little terrier.
I'm not getting the the Consuelo/Efrain/Macaria triangle anymore. Pointless.
 

Isn't there a servant-class subplot in every novela?

To Jackie: Maybe you missed that episode, but Margarito is related to Rogelio and Sinthia. Whether he is their half-brother or Rogelio's son by a one-night stand we don't know yet.
 

"Nobody told her the finger snap only works when you're wearing Eau de Protagonista."

hahaha favorite line

great job!
 

Great recap. I guess Rogelio is still under the influence of hospital drugs. What - he's going to make this baby part of the family farm. Like it's another horse or cow.

Dear Vanessa should have a cement block dropped on her head. Not to worry, folks, she wouldn't even feel it because: 1. Her head is made of wood; and 2. She has no feelings.
 

That's not quite right, Elna June; she does have feelings:

-- Self-pity
-- Self-aggrandisement
-- Self-interest
 

5ft. You spoil us with your recaps. I watched before reading and you are a marvel of accuracy, poignancy and snark.

Here is the sad, low point for me: ...Rosaura " 'I imagine you'd rather she didn't have the baby.' Rog is shocked at her lack of limits and says she has no soul. He tells Rosaura the merchandise she sold him (AP) is defective, so she can just get the hell out."

High point(s) for me: "...Oh, poor Cinthia. Nobody told her the finger snap only works when you're wearing Eau de Protagonista."
...and..."[Vanessa] does the finger snap. Doesn't work for her either."

Masterfully executed.

Oh, and Estupido and Estupider also deserves a sticky star.

The only way Rogelio could find out who the baby daddy without anyone telling him is a medical crisis and the fetus/neonate needs a blood transfusion and Goose is the only one who matches. This'll never happen and I'd be mighty surprised if it did. More likely Rogelio will overhear one of the *private* conversations on the patio or behind open doors. Margarito knows enough to keep his mouth shut now. Maria and the rest of Team AP won't say anything. If it is in their interests it would be Vainessa or Bruno. My bet is on Bruno.

We can't discount Macaria--she's still a metiche and has long wanted to know who Mgrito's father is and who the baby daddy is. Too bad for her that she and Consuelo have had a falling out because Connie is the only one left with a pipeline into Del Fuerte....and Efrain isn't going to tell her about Mgrito, so I doubt he would tell her about Goosetavito, but it might be in his interests if it meant Sin drops the Goose that didn't lay a golden egg on her.

Anita
 

Urban Anthropologist: Who is Elna June?
 

Tia wants it all. Did she have something in the soup she was trying to get AP to eat to force AP to loose the bebe? Did AP dodge a bullet by not eating. Too me, Tia is quite capable of this dastardly act despite Rog accepting the baby as his.
 

Margarito may know to keep his mouth shut but he may not be capable of actually doing so. I think they held auditions for this kid by seeing who could yell the loudest.

Cinthia may still be holding out hope to marry Gustavo (for her money rather than love), but she's on such a path of destruction that she may be the one to blab.

Of course the whole thing will come crashing down when AP finds out about Rogelio's dealing with David and helping send her brother to prison. She's too wishy-washy now but there's inner strength there and I look forward to her unleashing it. On Rogelio, Vanessa, and most especially her tia. That'll be a good day.

Kelly
 

Boy, there are a lot of villains in this TN. Is this typical? I count 10:

Rogelio (depending on how he responds to Goose being the baby daddy)
Bruno
Tia
Cynthia
Vanessa
Rutilio
David
Elsa
Mercedes
Efrain (if the snake was poisonous, otherwise he's just a player)

Thanks for the great recap!

Aleta
 

Ouch; lo siento, but I've had a bad day. My dear Tiger died the other night at the vet's and he was my heart-cat. I wish we could edit our comments because I've had a grammatical error or two as well, which isn't like me.
 

Aleta--This is not unusual at all. It depends on how you spread the villainy around. If they are just opportunistic villains, then you could have lots of them. Some tns (CME, Sortilegio) have one or two super villains, some hangers on and a lot who step into it unkowingly through misunderstandings or estupidness.

Over on El Tal, we have had three who are trying to be super bad and two of them are not having any luck at all. One of the hangers on, a practiced scam artist got his uncovering and comeuppance and is willing to move away. Another tried to retire from villainy but was roped back into it by the superbad patron, another one whose business is normally falsification of documents was made to up the ante by placing a bomb in a car and it exploded with two innocents in it, unfortunately not getting the one they were supposed to get.

I could go on and on, but you get the picture.

Anita
 

Condolences about your beloved cat. I still miss mine.

Thanks Kat, that was so much fun! The finger-snapping always annoys the heck out of me - it's so crassly rude! I'm glad you pointed out that it isn't working for those imbecile girls.

I love it when Mercedes gets called out by Ernesto whenever she gets out of line. Pushing her little Gustavito's "rights" even as they are guests of the husband, and they need to be mindful of the patient.

And Rogelio - he pays the bills, so he gets precedence over other people's rights. I really do hate the steamroller aspect of Rogelio's character. Ready to "negotiate" paternity rights. I'm sure Rogelio assumes he just needs to write the "real" father a big fat check, then he'll have his insta-family. I'm sure by assuming paternity he figures AP would then be permanently his. Rogelio sure is good at jumping to conclusions! (and jumping the gun)

Gee - I didnt realize what a break I had last night not having to recap Vainessa. I really cannot take her trash-talking AP. It's so crass, especially with her ugly lips. And she's so sure of her superiority - blech! At least she tells Cynthia the way things are. And she did seem genuinely shocked when Cynthia hoped the baby would die.

I agree the Goose had every intention of revealing himself as the (proud) baby daddy. But he realized Rogelio had to be sober. Goose wants a "man-to-man" confrontation.

Audrey
 

I wouldn't count Mercedes as a villain. She's got blinders on where her opinion of others and her brother is concerned. She's one of the opportunists who do or say things that have a negative effect on others.

Let's not forget the early days where David lined up some of the fishermen, led by Juan (was it?), against Goosiefoot. He wasn't a true villain either, just another opportunist.

What about Vainessa's mother, Elsa? She's out of the way for now but what she did affected Federico, Goose, Cupcake and Margarito.

The inhabitants of viewerville believe very strongly in redemption. We give occasional (or sometimes repeated) acts of villainy a pass and hope there will be redemption and forgiveness for them rather than the flames of hell or imprisonment.

Anita
 

Thanks for the recap, 5FT. I think we had some action in this episode.

The best part was the ending where Rog hands AP the phone to call her exnovio. And she was so confused as to what to do.

I don't think that Vanessa knows who the baby daddy is, correct? She would not hesitate to tell Rog if she knew.

I'm also thinking that if she were going to lose the baby, she would have done it by now. The only thing that could change that is that because of Jorge Salinas' absence, they may have had to change story lines and timelines and so this may not follow the normal TN patterns.
 

There will be no redemption for Elsa, Rosaura, Rutilio, or Bruno. I'm not sure yet about Vainessa or the others.

I do love the image of her kicking Bruno and David with her pointy Jimmy Choos. That's what she'll do when she finds out about the clenbuterol. However, she will pay for the pain she is causing Ana Paula and Rogelio.

Just once I'd like for a protagonist not to forgive the egregious wrongs foisted on her by villains. Ana Paula should disown Tia MentiRosa in a heartbeat once she finds out about how she sold her to Rogelio temporarily against the day she would hand her over to Bruno to be eaten alive. Let's also not forget how she provoked the attempt on Goosetavo's life. Finally, the years of lies about her own health that led to mountains of guilt and empty wallets.

Vainessa knows. She overheard an argument about it. Sinthia made her promise not to talk so that she still would have a shot at Goosetavo.
 

Loved the recap and all the clever titles 5 ft. I wish Gus would leave the hacienda. He's really getting on my nerves hanging around huffing and puffing talking about his baby.

I hope Rog finds out soon that Gus is the baby daddy so he can throw him out of his house. His sister can leave with him too. Both have overstayed their welcome.

I hope it won't be in the final weeks before Rog finds out about the cattle poisoning.

Of course, Vainessa is going to use this to angle her way back into Rog's life since he is disillusioned with AP.
 

UA, I'm very sorry to hear you lost your dear Tiger. My heart goes out to you - it is a terrible, heartwrenching loss. Wishing you comfort.

Diana
 

Thanks, Diana. Here he is:

http://s756.photobucket.com/albums/xx204/Venus193/Cat%20Pictures/?action=view&current=Tiger1.jpg
 

5ft: Fine recap, as always. Thank you.

UA: I am very sorry to hear of the loss of your companion, Tiger. Losing our friends, whether they have two legs or four, can leave such a hole in our lives.

Wishing you comfort,

ElnaJune (EJ)
 

Thanks. He was a very special kitty and everyone loved him.

Eventually I will get another boy kitty to be a little brother to my Carmen.
 

Thank you 5ft! This is an wonderful recap, full of your hilarious snark. I had to keep on stopping my reading to laugh out loud. Marvelous!
 

I guess some of us lurkers in what you call "viewerville" are evil, no good types who feel that not every one of these characters is deserving of redemption).

Vanessa is a hateful character. Why should her hateful attitude be allowed to continue to harm others (and herself, for that matter)?

Some of us out here believe in forgiveness, but some of us out here also think that some of these people simply do not deserve to be redeemed.

It just isn't believable when a main character who has been abused in some form or fashion by the likes of the Vanessa and Cinthia types becomes a goody two shoes in the end and forgets all of the wrongs that they have endured.

It's even more frustrating when the wrongs are never addressed. They are just 'all of a sudden' forgiven.

Give this lurker a break by providing a more plausible solution in addressing these jerks.
 

Anon 6:16, Since you're already speaking up for your POV, why not tell us what your solution would be?

No one said anything about being evil and no good for not believing everyone's worthy of redemption, asi que bajale el tono, por favor (chill, please).
 

Anon--Viewerville is a wide-open community--for lurkers, occasional commenters and dedicated ones. We have far ranging opinions--as you have surely noted.

We do not all believe in redemption for the same characters.

Personally I don't believe Vainessa deserves a full redemption. She's nasty but hasn't killed anyone.

Efrain and Sinthia are teetering on the edge of darkness if they try something else to terminate Cupcakes' baby. Sinthia still has that on her mind and Effer will probably go along with whatever she decides to have him do.

Tia Rosaura needs to be flushed down a toilet; hopefully she won't make it to the waste treatment plant alive.

Bruno needs to be encased in plastic and put on public display labeled as the epitome of evil.

David hasn't killed anyone, but he has earned the title of Lord Shadydeal. He needs to lose his business, fined, and reduced to working off the rest of his debts for the fishermen in Boca de Cielo (which Rogelio will own).

So, we plot and plan and enjoy, but are also frustrated when someone who has caused inmeasurable harm gets off lightly or their sins never come to light before being dispatched. (Try Cuando Me Enamoro for Augustin's multiple sins and he only dies once.)

Anita
 

I wish anonymous posters would still use a name. You're still anonymous even when you do.

I'm not sure who anonymous is talking about. No one posting here likes the evil ones, and the only thing we differ on is how much pain they should suffer. But suffer we all agree on.
 

"I didnt realize what a break I had last night not having to recap Vainessa. I really cannot take her trash-talking AP. It's so crass, especially with her ugly lips. And she's so sure of her superiority - blech!"
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Ha ha! I totally agree, Audrey. Vainy is not one of my favorite characters, and her superiority drives me batty. Then they will write a scene in which she doesn't come off as too awful and I sort of hope she ends up seeing the error of her ways.

Bruno can drop dead face-forward in a pile of clenbuterol tainted cow dung for all I care. And I hope he drags Tia down with him.
 

Anonymous 6:16PM Welcome. If you want to gripe about redemption and who should or shouldn't, go ahead! That's what the blog is for, but blame the writers and their formulas cuz when it comes down to it, they're the ones who play God, not us..... Join us any time and rant away.
 

5 Ft.: Some terrific snark and quite a few chuckles as usual! Loved the quip about Eau de Protagonista! An 11 on a scale of 10. Definitely.

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Anita: "Tia Rosaura needs to be flushed down a toilet; hopefully she won't make it to the waste treatment plant alive.

Bruno needs to be encased in plastic and put on public display labeled as the epitome of evil." ROTFLMAO!!
 

Hi Sara! I've been leaning towards Vainessa likely to be redeemed (after a long road finding her way). In spite of her nasty purring trash-talking, she seems quite shocked whenever anyone advocates something totally evil, and she hasn't tried to have anyone killed yet. Contrast Cynthia.
 

Audrey: I fear you are correct, that Vainy will be the one sinner who will get a pass and that we'll be forced to forgive, biting our tongues to the grand boda at the end. GRRR!
 

UA: What a heart breaker when a pet dies! Sorry to hear it.
 

UA: I'm very sorry about your Tiger. He looks like my Rattie. And your Carmen resembles my evil Bunny Wabbit, the tchotchke slayer.

Aleta
 

"In spite of her nasty purring trash-talking, she seems quite shocked whenever anyone advocates something totally evil, and she hasn't tried to have anyone killed yet."
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And she was truly horrified at her mother's confession about withholding Fed's meds.
 

Hi Jardinera. If you think about it, Rogelio has done worse things than Vainessa so far in the TN, so if Rogelio is redeemed with a happy ending, then Vainessa must also be redeemed (unless she goes to the dark side). I'm wondering if Vainessa miraculously comes to appreciate Esteban. Esteban seems able to see past Vainessa's horrible interpersonal skills. If he continues to hold a torch for her......
 

I don't know about Esteban being the super forgiving type towards Vanessa, but she does have one good quality: She loved her papa and he was good guy. Truly evil people don't really love (and obsession doesn't count). I used to hold out hope for Cinthia but the whole thing about ending the pregnancy and hurting Margarito (obnoxious as he is sometimes) takes her over the forgivable line. Has anyone ever hurt a kid and come out ok? I still like watching her character develop even in the wrong direction, but in a redemption war between her and Vanessa, right now it's looking like Vanessa.

Then again, I liked Roberta (CME) so what do I know. Maybe the evil women are just more interesting.

Kelly
 

I would like to see Vainy grow as an (honest) businesswoman; carrying on her fathers business. That is if she remains redeemable. I don't think I want a Vainy / Esteban reconciliation. But I don't want Steve with Chiopet either.
 

PS: Tia was really pushing that soup. I wonder how much oregano is in it.
 

Thanks for your thoughts. My Tiger was such a special cat. Little Carmen will be getting a younger brother soon because I don't want her to get too accustomed to being an only cat.

I agree that Vainessa has a long road ahead if she is to achieve redemption. As nasty as she is to Cupcake she is horrified at the prospect of murder. However, if she hangs too much longer with Sinthia one of two things will happen:

-- she will go fully to the dark side or
-- she will see how insane Sinthia truly is and back off.

However, I could see it ending with Vainessa and Cupcake never speakin to each other again.

As for the Tia, good thought about how much oregano was in the soup.
 

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