Wednesday, May 16, 2012
El Talismán #76 Wed 5/16/12 The Truth is Out There and Blackmail is the Way To Her Heart
Today on El Talisman:
Cameela confronts her Mama, er the Gasbag about what Tonio just said. She hems and haws and finally admits she "helped" Tonio but had no direct poisoning of the pills. That was all Tonio's idea. (Look on the side bar about the quote of the one that holds the leg of the cow, is equally responsible with the one that kills the cow). Cameela says, so you tried to kill Pigorio? Now your a killer? (Note to Cameela: Move into El Tal and stay there, don't go back to the Toxic One and tell her you are dead to me.). Poor Cameela she can't get a break. Her Gasbag of a mother admits she bought the poison, cause Tonio gave her dinero, she did it, and now she is crying like a lake of tears.
Padre has come to see Pedro in the carcel. He tells Padre all about how Lucrazy is loca (like anyone in town thinks otherwise), that he was trying to save her from that burning inferno, but all she kept saying to Pedro was we are dying here together, and that she didn't care if they both died.
Pigorio and Doris are having a little convo. He is fit to be tied that that Pedro Ibarra has killed his Lucrazy, his only hija (You sure about that El Pig, the way you rutted around who knows how many other hijas and hijos you have running around, jus' sayin'), he is pithed off noone else is mad his only hija is dead. Especially Doris. She tells him to calm down already.
Fabi and Flor are in their room and Fabi tells Flor she knows her Daddio hates Army, she wishes she could stay with Flor at Alcatrash, but probably in a little while she will have to go to the boarding school. They mourn the loss of their Tia. Alberta comes to their room to let them know what Cameela is here to see their Papa. They are thinking it must be true he is wanting to marry Cameela. Alberts says so not true.
Army and Angel are still at the school. Army can't beleive that Pedro killed Lucrazy, he's such a good guy, no way. Angel gets to talking about his Mama and hopes she will be happy now that Manuel is in the picture. Who cares about El Viral anyway? (You got that right Angel).
Pedro meets with a lawyer, and the lawyer tells him he is culpable for killing Lucrazy and that he should take a deal. Pedro is like no way Jose, I am an innocent man and I didn't kill her and I am sticking by my story, come hell or high water. The lawyer isn't buying it, Pedro in essence fires him and the lawyer says well good luck to you but you will be in prison for many years.
Mariana and Manuel are at the hospital. Mariana tells Manuel that she is happy now she feels more like a sister to Pedro and that Cameela's and Pedro love is very grand. She just wants to get her memory back so she can move on with her life. Manuel tells Mariana he has to get to work, so Mariana says work for realz, or concentrating on Maria? Dr. Raul comes upon them and tells them that Pedro has been arrested for killing Lucrazy. They are astounded.
Now we have The Pig and Panchito and they have come to, wait for it, El Capitan's office. The Pig wants to exact his brand of justice on Pedro for killing his ONLY HIJA, which means the Pig killing Pedro with his bare ham hocks, er, his bare hands. El Capitan tells him we will not have this in my police force. He lets the Pig know he is investigating and it isn't completed yet. He tells the Pig you know she tried to kill Pedro before, right, right? He tells Pigorio to go on home now. He keeps insisting that Pedro killed his hija. El Capitan tells him, oh by the way, do you know we are still investigating what happened with Mariana, you know the pregnant woman who lost the baby due to a beating, and then promply disappeared? Pigorio's bacon is curling around the edges and he says, oh, she's here? El Capitan tells him, yes siree bob, she's down in the carcel visiting Pedro. He tells the Pig, as a matter of fact, why don't you stay and you can talk to her yourself. The Pig is so not down with that, he uses the lame excuse he has to go to the doctor, so sorry so sad can't stay. El Capitan asks him what are you afraid of? hmmm. El Capitan is insisting he meet Mariana. Why don't you want to meet her? He turns it around on El Capitan and tells him Pedro will pay for killing his one and only hija! Panchito and the Pig leave. El Capitan is shaking his head. The Pig and Pancho walk out of the office and see Mariana, but she doesn't see them. Panchito pulls the Pig around the corner so Mariana can't see him. The Pig has left he building with Panchito and now they are in the Pig's truck. The Pig is worried Mariana will get her memory back. Panchito tells him he will be by his side for better or worse. Pig says lets go, I don't like being near Mariana.
Mariana has high tailed it to the carcel to see Pedro. Mariana knows why he is there, and he tells her he is innocent, he didn't do it. She beleives him. He tells her Tonio lied about everything to the popo's and now they think he did it. He tells her again he is innocent. She tells him she beleives him. She says she will help him anyway she can. He tells her Cameela is very upset about what has gone down. He tells Mariana he has to find a way to prove his innocence. He is looking for a new lawyer. He tells her that El Capitan would like to have a word with her before she leaves.
The Beltbuckle and Lucrazy are in the deserted cabana on Alcatrash. She is bored silly, I knew she would be, she is getting the cabin fever. The Beltbuckle tells her to chill out. About this time Alberta calls Tonio and says he has company and to come on back, guess who it is viewerville, on the count of three, that's right, Cameela.
Tracy and Cameela are talking in the living room of Alcatrash. Tracy can't beleive that Cameela is there. What are you doing here? Are you crazy? Cameela tells Tracy what the Gasbag did, and she did it for (we all know what she did it for, dinero. Tracy is like O M Gee. Tonio comes in and tells Tracy to Largate. He lays it flat out for Cameela, either you marry me or your blessed mother (oh, come on now, you don't have a clue do you? Well of course not you never did) or she goes to prison for many years. The Beltbuckle tells her and oh, by the way, it has to be this weekend. She stands her ground and says he is loca, she doesn't love him and she won't do it. She tells him you are obsessed with me, my heart belongs to Pedro. He grabs Cameela by the face and neck and squeezes her. She is yelling at him SUELTE MI. He warns her again her *blessed mother* will be going to prison for many years. Think about that. (Note to Beltbuckle- she hates her *blessed mother* as much as she hates your asshat, jus' sayin'.). I have to say here, Cameela stood her ground, she is so not intimidated by the Beltbuckle. He tells her to Callate, and that he will, wait for it, Make her love him, oh please, somebody take this dude out, Lucrazy are you listening? He keeps threating to send her mama to jail. He even tells Cameela he is going to call the police so they can investigate. She begs him not to do that. He gives her an ultimatum, either marry me this weekend, or suffer the consequences. He walks out and she is crying her eyes out. Tracy comes back in and tells her don't you do it. He's crazy. Tracy says it could be a lie what he said, but Cameela knows it's true. She doesn't want her mama to go to jail. She can't and won't marry the Beltbuckle (you go girl)! She tells Tracy is not going to think about marrying the crazed Beltbuckle. She is leaving. Doris comes in and basically none to gentley gets Tracy out of the room. Doris wants to know why Cameela is there. She lets Cameela know that this house will be, wait for it, ES MIA, (what is it with these people and this house? What is there some magic here, oil, a diamond mine, jus' sayin') and if Cameela marries Tonio she will regret it. Cameela stands right up to Doris and tells her she is never marrying that Beltbuckle and she doesn't love him. She says the Beltbuckle asked her but she told him no. Doris wants to know why? She doesn't tell her. Doris says well if that is the case I will help you. Say what? She admits to Cameela that she still loves Tonio. Cameela leaves and calls Padre and tells him she is ok. All at El Tal were worried when she didn't answer the phone. She tells him I'll answer all your questions when I see you later.
Army has gone home and catches his Gasbag of a mother at home. She had thought bubbled about her confrontation with Cameela and the Beltbuckle. He tells the Gasbag about Pedro being in jail and that the Beltbuckle is responsible for putting him there. That hopefully he won't be in jail a long time. The Gasbag then tells him she might be going to jail. She tells him why, and he wants to know if she really tried to kill the Pig? She says she helped Tonio for dinero, but the Beltbuckle actually tried to kill him,and besides Cameela won't let her go to jail. Well Army and his new avacadoes says oh, yeah like Cameela should sacrifice herself for you? Of course the Gasbag doesn't answer him.
Margo and Padre are talking about how they will get a new lawyer for Pedro. They meet with the new lawyer.
Liliana the woman from social services comes to see Pedro and she tells him no way no how you are ever adopting Santiago. Even if you are proved innocent, not happening. As a matter of fact, we are looking for new parents for him, punto. Adios, Senor Ibarra. Pedro is pithed.
Mariana goes to El Capitan's office and meets him. She says so Pedro told me you want to talk to me. She tells him how she doesn't remember any of her past and doesn't remember the Pig. El Capitan tells her the Pig is probably responsible for what happened to her. She tells him she had gone to El Tal with Cameela to see if she remembered anything, she didn't, and she also tells him she went to Alcatrash with Tonio, met Lucrazy and there were no memories there either. She tells El Capitan she doesn't remember a thing. She tells him how Pedro brought documents for her to see all her money from before is still in the bank. Meanwhile a guard has come for Pedro and tells him to come with him. They go to El Capitan's office and he meets with El Capitan and Mariana. He gives some papers to Mariana. I don't know if it is bail or adoption papers maybe for Santiago. Mariana also tells how Tonio lied to her about Pedro.
The Beltbuckle has gone back to the cabana, and the first thing Lucrazy asks if Cameela has consented to marrying him? He tells her he threatened to put her mama in prison. He tells Lucrazy that Cameela is different from other women and she drives him crazy. (Note to Beltbuckle- you are already crazy dude and not about love). Lucrazy isn't sure the plan will work. He tells her to be calm, and she says so now we wait? She is bored witless, not that she isn't already, jus' sayin'. The Beltbuckle has brought her a computer. He tells her she has to stay here. (Bet me she doesn't email somebody? This reminds me of Maria del Rosario from CS 09 except with better bennies jus' sayin').
Pedro has met with a new lawyer and the new lawyer is really good. He tells Pedro he has a good attitude and he will do everything in his power to prove Pedro didn't do this.
We have a Manuel sighting. He is ordering a pizza, evidently the doc can't cook. He is calling, wait for the product placement, Domino's pizza! He wants jalepenos and I don't know what else. (Note to Manuel: If you want to impress Maria, get a cookbook, start small and work your way up, jus' sayin").
Army and the Gasbag are still talking and he wants to know where Cameela is? The Gasbag tells him she went to see the Beltbuckle. Cameela comes in and tells them what the Beltbuckle said to her. El Virus, er the Gasbag, says so I'll go to jail unless you marry him? You'll marry him right, right? (Oh Dios Mio someone give her a really huge mug of sleepytime tea, can't stand the building up of the gas I am seeing) that headband of hers is tightening again and she begs and pleads to Cameela that she doesn't want to go to the carcel (hummm I think it would do her good, she would, MAYBE, see the error of her ways) and to forgive her PLEASE, PRETTY PLEASE (Note to Cameela-tell her you are Dead to Me. Do not pass go, never collect any dinero ever again).
Tomorrow on El Talisman:
Tonio and Pigorio are fighting over what else? Alcatrash!
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The funniest scene today was Manuel ordering that pizza from Domino's lol.
I hope this scheme of the Beltbuckle's doesn't work. So many of them haven't. I bet Lucrazy gets out of that cabana, but Pigorio will probably be the first to see her, think she is a ghost and have a MAJOR infarto, jus' sayin'
I hope this scheme of the Beltbuckle's doesn't work. So many of them haven't. I bet Lucrazy gets out of that cabana, but Pigorio will probably be the first to see her, think she is a ghost and have a MAJOR infarto, jus' sayin'
Madelaine, bare ham-hocks, bacon curling around the edges, girl you are totally cracking me up today. Great recap! So funny from the title all the way to your comment.
What? The lawyer advised Pedro to plead guilty? That lawyer sucked; the police haven't even found a body yet as far as we know. So glad Pedro fired his butt and hired a better lawyer.
I had to laugh when Pigorio stormed into El Capitan's office and The Piglet closed the blinds. Note to Piglet, you couldn't be ominous if you tried, especially with your torn straw hat. You look more like a hayseed than an enforcer.
And while I'm sending notes, note to Tonio, you can not make a woman love you by grabbing her face, threatening her and yelling at her with a drink in your hand.
I'm liking the newly avocadoed Armando.
Can't Tracy find another job in Fresno? Those Negretes treat her like crap.
Thanks again Madelaine.
What? The lawyer advised Pedro to plead guilty? That lawyer sucked; the police haven't even found a body yet as far as we know. So glad Pedro fired his butt and hired a better lawyer.
I had to laugh when Pigorio stormed into El Capitan's office and The Piglet closed the blinds. Note to Piglet, you couldn't be ominous if you tried, especially with your torn straw hat. You look more like a hayseed than an enforcer.
And while I'm sending notes, note to Tonio, you can not make a woman love you by grabbing her face, threatening her and yelling at her with a drink in your hand.
I'm liking the newly avocadoed Armando.
Can't Tracy find another job in Fresno? Those Negretes treat her like crap.
Thanks again Madelaine.
Madelaine thanks for your recap. Your title is spot on as well.
Tony is just so appalling and this blackmail scheme is ridiculous. The gasbag is horrible and in anyone else's reality she would be going to jail muy pronto. I am hoping Doris stops up this nightmare. I don't even want to imagine the potential violence poor Cami would suffer with the Beltbuckle.
However, I love your scenario of the Pig thinking he's seen the ghost of Lulu and having the big one. That's brilliant. Then he can be in the hospital with Mariana "visiting" daily to let him know he's going to jail forever.
Tony is just so appalling and this blackmail scheme is ridiculous. The gasbag is horrible and in anyone else's reality she would be going to jail muy pronto. I am hoping Doris stops up this nightmare. I don't even want to imagine the potential violence poor Cami would suffer with the Beltbuckle.
However, I love your scenario of the Pig thinking he's seen the ghost of Lulu and having the big one. That's brilliant. Then he can be in the hospital with Mariana "visiting" daily to let him know he's going to jail forever.
Well at least Camila and Doris may start working together. Their goals are more in line than Antonio's and Lulu's, and since they are the smartest people in Fresno, they shouldn't have a problem putting this whole nonsense to rest. Maybe they could fake a wedding with a big veil and then it turns out to be Doris behind the veil instead of Camila? It works and is still ridiculous enough to fit with everything else.
The Dominos scene was great. If he wants Italian can't he at least make her spaghetti? Every man can do that. And did he ever give Maria's keys back?
And what the heck happened with Rita and Renato?
Kelly
The Dominos scene was great. If he wants Italian can't he at least make her spaghetti? Every man can do that. And did he ever give Maria's keys back?
And what the heck happened with Rita and Renato?
Kelly
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: Wednesday, May 16, 2012 at 6:36:00 PM EDT
: Wednesday, May 16, 2012 at 6:36:00 PM EDT
Thanks for all the great comments. I so agree with you Cap'n about the Beltbuckle how in the hell does he think he can make Cameela love him with all the abuse. He must think he is hawt stuff and can bring when they are el flagrante lol. I agree about Tracy too. Poor thing take too much abuse from all the Negretes. She ought to go work for Padre and the gang at El Tal. I think she stays because of Panchito and Flor and Fabi. You are right too about Panchito lol. He is more of a shy little mouse then a roaring lion.
Karen- so agree with you about Doris and Cami working together. They could really screw the Beltbuckle over.
Kelly love your idea about the wedding. I like the veil idea, but I think Doris should put a mask of Cameela on, then marry him civily and religiously and then it will be too late for the Beltbuckle bwhahahah. And Doris can tell him afterward she knows about the scheme he tried to pull. Even better. No Manuel never gave Maria her keys back. I guess she will make a new set. I don't know what happened to Rita and Rennie. They haven't shown them since Pigorio gave them that check. Maybe they blew town.
Karen- so agree with you about Doris and Cami working together. They could really screw the Beltbuckle over.
Kelly love your idea about the wedding. I like the veil idea, but I think Doris should put a mask of Cameela on, then marry him civily and religiously and then it will be too late for the Beltbuckle bwhahahah. And Doris can tell him afterward she knows about the scheme he tried to pull. Even better. No Manuel never gave Maria her keys back. I guess she will make a new set. I don't know what happened to Rita and Rennie. They haven't shown them since Pigorio gave them that check. Maybe they blew town.
Wow great recap and great comments. Since day one that Beltbuckle showed his true colors I just did not believe it and then tiday he grabbed Cameelas face, incredible, with Pedro putting Cameela second while he was trying to find his backbone did the writers expect Cameela to be a doormat? Doesn't make sense,
But interesting development that Doris is stepping into this now that's something different.
I hope the writers do let us see Elvira go to jail that would be another first in this TN.
But interesting development that Doris is stepping into this now that's something different.
I hope the writers do let us see Elvira go to jail that would be another first in this TN.
Permalink posted by : Wednesday, May 16, 2012 at 8:26:00 PM EDT
: Wednesday, May 16, 2012 at 8:26:00 PM EDT
Thanks Madelaine! Having now officially experienced what is involved in recapping, I have to commend you all over again for holding this together these past weeks / months. I don't know how you did it! You are amazing, and because of you the party goes on.
My favorite's:
Pig killing Pedro with his bare ham hocks
and
Army and his new avocados
He really has grown a nice pair. Angel has been a good influence on Army in this department.
What's wrong with the police not realizing there is NO body? I haven't watched yet, so if Antonio dug some up, charred them, crossed the yellow tape and placed them without leaving footprints, please disregard my comment.
Kelly - you are sounding like me with the Rita and Renato question. Where are they? I miss them! Maybe the writers took my advise and are making a spin-off comedy. Dang, that was my favorite plot line. And no Oscar sighting for ages now either.
Hahaha! Here's my word verification: ntsaglo
R la O
My favorite's:
Pig killing Pedro with his bare ham hocks
and
Army and his new avocados
He really has grown a nice pair. Angel has been a good influence on Army in this department.
What's wrong with the police not realizing there is NO body? I haven't watched yet, so if Antonio dug some up, charred them, crossed the yellow tape and placed them without leaving footprints, please disregard my comment.
Kelly - you are sounding like me with the Rita and Renato question. Where are they? I miss them! Maybe the writers took my advise and are making a spin-off comedy. Dang, that was my favorite plot line. And no Oscar sighting for ages now either.
Hahaha! Here's my word verification: ntsaglo
R la O
Thank you so much Rosemary La Otra for that wonderful comment. I have to say I am addicted to this TN because the writing had improved. It still has some dangling plot lines but I think there will some payoff at the end.
El Capitan did tell Pigorio that they were still investigating, so maybe he will figure out that Tonio made up the whole thing. I just know that Lucrazy is going to be the one to out him.
Nellie I agree with you about Doris. She is very smart and knows what the Beltbuckle can be up to. I think together they would make a hell of a team.
El Capitan did tell Pigorio that they were still investigating, so maybe he will figure out that Tonio made up the whole thing. I just know that Lucrazy is going to be the one to out him.
Nellie I agree with you about Doris. She is very smart and knows what the Beltbuckle can be up to. I think together they would make a hell of a team.
I know Doris is a delusional ho, but I still like her. She's a cooool customer (albeit with plenty of customers of her own.)
Permalink posted by : Thursday, May 17, 2012 at 7:32:00 AM EDT
: Thursday, May 17, 2012 at 7:32:00 AM EDT
Blue Lass I like Doris too. I too agree with you about her. Do you think she is really in love with the Beltbuckle? Sometimes I think she is, sometimes not. She sure is making the porky one sizzle every chance she gets.
Madelaine, I think Doris is really still in love with Antonio -- because she tells other people about it. The Pig's the only one she tries the pig-love nonsense on. BTW, great catch on the jalapeño pizza! I never see those details.
Why is anyone even considering letting Camila marry Antonio (including Camila)? Everyone involved in this "decision" knows that he wants to kill his Dad -- why wouldn't he kill her, too, if she became inconvenient? THINK, PEOPLE.
Why is anyone even considering letting Camila marry Antonio (including Camila)? Everyone involved in this "decision" knows that he wants to kill his Dad -- why wouldn't he kill her, too, if she became inconvenient? THINK, PEOPLE.
Permalink posted by : Thursday, May 17, 2012 at 8:28:00 AM EDT
: Thursday, May 17, 2012 at 8:28:00 AM EDT
Yes Blue Lass why don't these poor people try to use a bit of reasoning. Tony has become very violent with ALL the women in his life especially if they disagree with him. I really hope this twisted familial loyalty does not cause Cami to feel she MUST marry this horrible abuser of women and get hurt. Hopefully she'll tell Tia Maria, Padre and Pedro and they will actually give her good advice (at least one of them should).
I always thought our "about splatted coffee on my computer" lines were fun, but maybe not totally accurate until I just literally spit out water on Blue's line "I know Doris is a delusional ho".
Madelaine:
Thank you for this fine recap and thank you for holding down the fort for so long. I haven't spen much time in Freesnow lately, but you have kept me well informed of the action (and inaction) on El Tal.
I am a fairly slow rcapper and I could never do so many recaps in a week. I really appreciate your hard work.
Karen:
ITA with you and Blue. Antonio s a sociopathic misogynist. He is already manhandling Camila and she isn't even attracted to him.
Really this story hasn't moved very far since the time change, has it?
Negrete's are still scheming ineffectively, Elvira is still a horrible, greedy, wanna-be murderer, Camila is still confused and Pedro still befuddled. The news? Mariana is back, Army matured a bit and they killed off my fav Auntie. Lucrezia still belongs in an institution.
EJ
Thank you for this fine recap and thank you for holding down the fort for so long. I haven't spen much time in Freesnow lately, but you have kept me well informed of the action (and inaction) on El Tal.
I am a fairly slow rcapper and I could never do so many recaps in a week. I really appreciate your hard work.
Karen:
ITA with you and Blue. Antonio s a sociopathic misogynist. He is already manhandling Camila and she isn't even attracted to him.
Really this story hasn't moved very far since the time change, has it?
Negrete's are still scheming ineffectively, Elvira is still a horrible, greedy, wanna-be murderer, Camila is still confused and Pedro still befuddled. The news? Mariana is back, Army matured a bit and they killed off my fav Auntie. Lucrezia still belongs in an institution.
EJ
You can sit with me at the Doris table, EJ. What shall we serve? Pink Ladies?
BTW, I just saw an announcement on Univisión that AMOR BRAVÍO is "coming soon." Squeee!!!
BTW, I just saw an announcement on Univisión that AMOR BRAVÍO is "coming soon." Squeee!!!
Permalink posted by : Thursday, May 17, 2012 at 11:44:00 AM EDT
: Thursday, May 17, 2012 at 11:44:00 AM EDT
Thank you so much EJ for your wonderful comment. I didn't mind doing them. It is really a lot of fun.
Blue Lass- I looked up Amor Bravio it looks really good and I like the cast. Since UFCS has been two hours long, like forever, maybe Un Refugio para Amor takes one hour of that, and then Amor Bravio takes the other. Uni's ratings have gone up since they don't show Don Francisco's show anymore, they have been having huge ratings with the TN lineup they have stuck with since February. I am liking the cast of Refugio cause it has Gabriel Soto, and the cast of Amor Bravio cause it has Silvia Navarro, only saw her in MEPS, she is really good, and of course Christian de la Fuente who I saw in CS 09 and In Plain Sight.
Blue Lass- I looked up Amor Bravio it looks really good and I like the cast. Since UFCS has been two hours long, like forever, maybe Un Refugio para Amor takes one hour of that, and then Amor Bravio takes the other. Uni's ratings have gone up since they don't show Don Francisco's show anymore, they have been having huge ratings with the TN lineup they have stuck with since February. I am liking the cast of Refugio cause it has Gabriel Soto, and the cast of Amor Bravio cause it has Silvia Navarro, only saw her in MEPS, she is really good, and of course Christian de la Fuente who I saw in CS 09 and In Plain Sight.
It just occurred to me that maybe Uni meant that AMOR BRAVÍO was "coming soon" to the Latin American market -- it doesn't seem as if they'll have room for it up here until another drama ends (probably in late summer.) I assume they'll replace at least half of FAMILIA with a comedy.
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