Tuesday, July 10, 2012
Abismo de pasion #85 7/10/12: In Which We Almost End With A Bang
Hacienda Arango
·
At Casa Arrango, Florencia catches Alfonsian on
her way out the door to Merida. Flo stops her might-be Mother-in-law to show
her the engagement ring on her left ring finger and to renounce her right to
the new car—she needs that money to help her dad. She has to pay lawyers and
the other blood sucking vermin that run the legal system. Alfonsina’s reply is not encouraging. She says
that since Flo’s daddy robbed her, if Flo wants money she can give Alfie a
grandchild. Then with a little flick at Flo’s barren belly Alfie stalks off.
Oh, the Black Widow is magnificent! As Sylvia said yesterday, we can only hope
that she lives long enough to really appreciate the suffering that will surely
come her way.
La Pro-ces-a-dor-a
·
Paolo, slick as snot, is sliming on a distraught
Sabrina on the telephone. Yes , he loves her. He reminds her that they have
agreed to be discreet about the news of the baby. Yes, her adores her. She
snivels. Yes, he has to gain the confidence of her parents. Will she see him
today? Oh, not likely. he speaks to the quaveringly silent office. He has a
very busy day at the pro-ces-a-dor-a. He hangs up the phone. Poor girl, Paolo
is a creep.
Tovar Casa
·
But, Begonia overhears her poor daughter and
says she knows she was talking to Paulo. Surprisingly, Begonia is better
disposed toward Paulo than she used to be thanks to her new bestie, Carmina,
who has said some pretty fine things about Paolo. She thinks they should invite
him to dinner. Really?
La Pro-ces-a-dor-a
·
Maru tells Gabino that ING is waiting for him in
his office. ING is pissed. She is losing it. She wants to know where are her
airline tickets. Gabino robbed her of her money. She has nothing. She starts to
scream. Gabino grabs her, put his hand over her mouth and starts sweet-talking
his wild-eyed little filly. He tells her they are going to go away and she will
have lots of money and THINGS…It looks a lot like some rough but consensual
adult activity is going to take place on Gabino’s desk but Ingrid is truly not
buying Gabino’s soothing sexual program. She breaks away and knocks a chair
over on her out…
·
…Where she runs into Don Lucio, breathlessly
spreading the news to Maru at the front desk of the processing plant and all of
La Ermita that a body has been found floating in the lagoon. It is a woman, she
un recognizable, she has been in the water at least a week. Ingrid looks
completely stricken.
Tovar Casa
·
The news spreads. Begonia takes a call and tells
Sabrina, who promptly passes out. Oopsie, Daddy El Doctor Gordo Tovar is called
and the news of Sabrina’s impending motherhood may not be a secret for long.
·
Doc Tovar heads to the morgue to help in the
identification of the body. Nasty, I say.
Casa Castañon
·
Delores steps into Casa Castigo and calls for
Elisa. The usual cheerless Don Augusto who tells her to stop shouting meets her.
Elisa is fine. She is not the woman who was found floating in the Laguna.
Town Morgue
·
Ingrid, dressed in loose, dun colored clothes,
is seated alone in a simple room that appears to be the waiting room of the
towm morgue. There is nothing on the walls, and only a couple of simple chairs
in the room. As Doc Tovar hurries into the room, Ingrid ,stops him and
introduces herself. They met before, she reminds him, when her daughter, Kenia,
had a bicycle accident. Yes, yes, her remembers. She is Gael’s mother. She
tells him Kenia has been missing for a week. She has to see the corpse to make
sure it isn’t her daughter. Doc Tovar introduces himself, at her service. Doc
Tovar tells her the corpse is quite decomposed, it has been in the water for
more than a week, it is virtually un-recognizable. The forensic pathologist
says the only distinguishing feature is a birthmark…Ingrid finished the sentence”
shaped like a moon”. She says she MUST see it. She will know if it is her
daughter. She is breaking my heart. I nominate Ms. Camil for an acting award
here. She is brilliant as the flawed, even bad Mother who is facing a hideous
fate. It is a brilliant performance.
·
Doc Tovar, perhaps in mercy, perhaps against his
better judgment, allows Ingrid to see the body. In a harrowing scene, the sheet
is lifted back from the body and Ingrid in punished in this one scene for all
the wrong she ever did to either of her children. This may be punishment for
this and several other lives IMHO. There could be no worse hell.
Casa Castigo
·
Elisa comes back in the house to a delighted
Delores.. She is still happy that Elisa is OK (not dead and floating in the
lagoon) and wants to here how things went with Damian, whom she refers to as
DamiaM. She asks when the big boda will be and Elisa replies, “Never”. When
Elisa went to Hacienda Arango to talk to Damian she found him in bed, if no in
flagrante with Flo. I’ve gotta admit, I
would be pithed too. Then, to add insult to injury, on the way out the door,
she got the news about her mother’s Cielo Abierto lands being to that jerk
GABINO MENDOZA. She is NOT in a good mood. I always think Boyer is at her most believable
when she is bitchy.
Pro-ces-a-dor-a
·
Damian is once again back at the helm of the
procesadora. Maru is listening to this as he seriously shuffles papers around
his desk.
·
Really, guys, are we supposed to care? The real
La Anita is a very big company and they would never tolerate this piddle
farting round with either money or senior management. One doesn’t threaten the
revenue stream of senior management in family-owned companies any more than
with companies responsible to outside shareholders. Why? Because they are
family matriarch/patriarch type folks who have lawyers tied to their hip
pockets and they will cut you off without a dime if you threaten the goose that
laid the golden egg. Anyway, DamiaM says, he just doesn’t understand. While he
was throwing his hissy hit and NOT running the company (like he would be
allowed to do that)
·
GWEEEEDO let all this bad stuff take place? How
can that be? He KNOWS GWEEEEDO? Really dude?
Casa Arango
·
Flo dives into a pool. She has a lovely figure
and the tiniest waist ever. I think I spied a cell pone on the side of the
pool. Enrique is watching her and comes
over to give her news about her Poppa but she bursts his bubble by asking him
why he is there? He can’t be seen at Casa Arango! Enrique looks a bit confused,
as well he might, having just risked his life savings and perhaps his health
for Flo as Florencia babbles on about her reconciliation with DamiaM, and show
his the engagement ring and how all is now right with the world. She will, of
course, pay Quique back for helping out her Dad…Henrique looks gob smacked, as
well he should.
A Prison in Merida,
Where Guido is wearing an unflattering shade of Khaki—too green, I think
·
Really, nothing of import happens in this scene.
The Black Widow, Alfonsian comes to visit Guido in his more permanent home, the
nastier jail, he stares at her sullenly and denies stealing from her, she tells
him to fess up, so he doesn’t make an untoward scandal at DamiaM ‘and Flo’s
upcoming nuptial’s. Yes, they are re-engaged. Guido is sorry he ever had
feelings for Alfie and Alfie says the only man for whom she has ever had
feelings has been dead lo these many years. W_H_A_T_E_V_E_R_.
Cielo Abierto Fields
and the Habanero Greenhouse
·
Don Augusto Cat Food and Elisa meet on her
mother’s lands. Happy habanero peppers are growing haphazardly all around.
Elisa tells her father that there is no way he is selling the Cielo Abierto
growing fields to GABINO MENDOZA. Augusto repeats for the zillionth time, he
lost his contract with the la Maria procesadora. Augusto is just happy working
with his Princesa over at the now restored greenhouses. They walk away, arms
around each other, the very picture of father/daughter affection.
·
But, if you were to look up into the sky, you
would see that it is not open and clear at all. It is covered with black
cumuli-nimbus clouds bearing dozens of tiny iron anvils poised to fall on the
father daughter pair.
·
Soon Elisa and Augusto walk around the
greenhouses. The peppers are setting fruit at an astonishing pace. All thanks
to Gael, Papa’s workers, Damian, Elisa and Don Lucio. It’s a miracle. Now Elisa
offers her vision…habaneros are much more than just a CONDIMENT. Habaneros can
be used in cleaning products, health supplements, and medical supplies. Elisa
wants to build an habanero EMPIRE to rival and outdo Alfonsina’s. She wants her
own procesadora.
·
See what happens when you think big, Elisa. Hire
Quique. He can probably help you engineer something. Now all you need is CASH,
sister. Hmmmm. Do you have good anvil insurance????
Doc Tovar’s Office
·
Gael comes to visit Paloma at Doc Tovar’s
office. She is crying.. She won’t listen to Gael. She takes responsibility for
the situation for pushing the relationship. They fight about Elisa. She won’t
let him tell her that Elisa and Damian are not siblings after all. She tells
him she doesn’t want to see Gael as a novio or as a friend. She just wants him
to leave. He looks a bit stricken.
Padre Lupe’s Church
·
A somewhat disheveled looking Carmina comes
calling on Padre Lupe at the Church door. Whatever she’s selling, he ain’t
buying. He stands, his arms folded across his solar plexus with Jesus and the cross and a few parishioners all standing
protectively in the background for good measure. He tells her that her presence
without repentance at God’s house is blasphemy. She says she needs help. “He
says you need help”, as he walks toward her? Watch out Padre! I want to scream.
Padre tells her that the chickens have come to roost.
·
Carmina says she needs Padre’s help with
Augusto. No go, Carmina, Padre tells her that there is a person who knows all
the truth, and that the truth, whether
sooner or later, will see the light. Carmina doesn’t believe it. When she puts
her hand on his arm, he looks down on her hand like it belongs to a tarantula,
not a brown recluse. The bells call him to do service and he closes the double
doors in her face. She rolls her eyes at him and walks away.
More (OTT nauseating)
Father/Daughter Time in the Giant Greenhouses
·
OK, now they are really overdoing it. Augusto,
is all over Elisa wondering why his daughter hasn’t told Damian about their
real (lack of ) a relationship. She lies and says she hasn’t had time. He (of
all people) starts to give her advice about her love life. She says this
delights her. He says it is all part of their newfound perfect relationship as
real father and daughter. There are so many things wrong with this scene I
cannot begin to enumerate them. I haven’t enough fingers, toes or hairs on my
red head.
·
Where was the love, Augusto? Where was the love
for 15-some years of this damaged young woman’s life when you thought she was
not your biological offspring? This latest act in your ever-changing repertoire
of behavior does not make you redeemed in my eyes. However, I suppose some will say that your
most recent behavior means that you are demonstrating that you are redeemable.
That is TRUE, and I will believe in his behavior change when he demonstrate
about 15 years of consistent kindness, fairness and reasonable behavior to
others, especially his daughter
By the pool at
Hacienda Arango
·
Freeloaders, grifters and dirtbags Paolo and
Florencia sit by the pool and plot their next moves. They are going to steal
poor stupid Sabrina’s baby to give it to the Black Widow??? That is diabolical.
·
I am ashamed of myself. I had such hopes for
Florencia. I can’t believe I once rooted for Flo to take down the Spider Woman.
Pah! Flo is not in her league. SHE IS NOT WORTHY. She could not kiss the Black
widow’s shiny black boots or her red patent belt!
·
Karen and the Capon and I are so over you, Flo. We will help your
Dad, but you, you , are just an ordinary lazy wasp-waisted hymenoptera with one sting, trying to steal a piece of fresh meat
from Alfie’s web. She has you caught, sister, she will toy with you and she
will eat you alive. I am usually loyal, Flo, but no matter how desperate you
are you DO NOT steal other people’s children.
In Ingrid’s Private
Hell
·
In some little coffee shop in La Ermita, Edmundo
Tovar, a man of great compassion and kindness, is trying to do the impossible.
He is trying to comfort a mother who has just lost her child. Ingrid was a bad
mother, selfish, manipulative and always out for herself, but she raised Kenia
and to have to I.D the decomposing body of your only daughter on a cold morgue
slab is the worst nightmare of even the least-good mother.
·
Ingrid says she has no one in the pueblo. Edmund
remembers that she has a son. Yes, she says. After making the mistake of
abandoning him on the church steps when he was an infant, she came back to get
to know him (sort of). Some mistakes are too big to fix. He hates her and Kenia
is dead. But Gael is a grand young man, says Edmundo.
·
Edmundo is doing his best to comfort Ingrid with
an embrace when in walks Begonia and a friend. Before she can make too much of
a scene—she does say that Ingrid is the mother of the girl who tried to steal a
married man—Edmundo jumps up, and explains who Ingrid is and that her daughter
is the one who was found in the Laguna.
·
Ingrid stumbles home to the Blue Hose of Shame. Gabino
is grumbling when she wanders in announcing that her daughter is dead. Gabino
is shocked. Ingrid is hysterical as she blames Carmina for killing Kenia. She
wants to kill Carmina herself.
Casa Castigo
·
Carmina is still there, at the quinta, looking
depressed. Augusto comes in and wants to
know why she is there. He is reverting to his usual nasty, nasty, self. Why is
she there? Did he not tell her to get out of the house by the end of the day?
Out of the house? Out of his life? Just get out, snarls Augusto and he starts
to walk away. Augusto! Carmina calls. We hear the sound of a shotgun shell
being placed in the chamber. You are not the only one who is macho! Carmina
announces! She places the shotgun under her chin in what looks to be a most
efficient manner.
·
Oh, my. Your recapper thinks that although Carmina
is the Queen of all Drama Queens and is surely bluffing, this is really nothing
to bluff about. Death is no laughing matter. And suicide in front of a loved
(or hated) one is the second most hostile act you can take against another
person. The first is murdering the person himself or herself. Carmina is very, very mad at Augusto for
throwing her out and rejecting her. She
will NOT be able to tolerate this. One of them may not make it through this
scene.
·
I have no avances, my friends. I turn you over
to the capable hands of our dear Marta Miercoles, who will steer the good ship
Passion Pitt forward through the coming storm. I am happy to pass off the helm.
EJ shivers.
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Good grief, what an episode! I apologize for the poor editing, amigos. I still haven't gotten my editing skills back. Funny thing about head injury, I can't even really SEE what I have wrtten on the page as much as I see what I THINK I have written until I have a few hours away from the laptop. Cognition is a crazy thing.
Also, the stoopid auto spell corrector wants to do things like turn Cap'n Sylvia's name into "capon". I am so embarrassed, dear Sylvia. Please do forgive me. It is a good thing we are friends!
Most of you know that I am scrupulous about not looking ahead. I am one of those people on the boards that do not enjoy spoilers. I often won't even recap the avances as we get into Ultimas Semanas because I feel like they get spoiler happy.
So this is not a spoiler. But it is obvious that the situation with the damn gun is very dangerous. Why isn't it locked up already as a condition of Augusto's probation? Arghh. Carmina + Augusto + Gun + Shame = Disaster. Arghh.
Hasta luego,
EJ
Also, the stoopid auto spell corrector wants to do things like turn Cap'n Sylvia's name into "capon". I am so embarrassed, dear Sylvia. Please do forgive me. It is a good thing we are friends!
Most of you know that I am scrupulous about not looking ahead. I am one of those people on the boards that do not enjoy spoilers. I often won't even recap the avances as we get into Ultimas Semanas because I feel like they get spoiler happy.
So this is not a spoiler. But it is obvious that the situation with the damn gun is very dangerous. Why isn't it locked up already as a condition of Augusto's probation? Arghh. Carmina + Augusto + Gun + Shame = Disaster. Arghh.
Hasta luego,
EJ
EJ- This is brilliant. Typos and all! I love the fast pace. Yes, this situation with the gun will not end well.
If she doesn't off herself, Carmeany has Ingrid and Gabino (on Ingrid's behalf) gunning for her for Kenia's death. I did feel a bit bad for Ingrid, but it's what she deserved.
Isn't Cielo Abierto Augie's lands, not Stefi's? That the point right, that Augie is selling his lands in order to save ELisa's/Stefi's lands? I'm just glad he's acting like a human being towards Elisa. Now, if only they could find someone with some business sense to advise them on how to actually save their lands, sell their harvest, and create this new habanero export business. I want to see something finally happening with that. Not just peppers growing.
If she doesn't off herself, Carmeany has Ingrid and Gabino (on Ingrid's behalf) gunning for her for Kenia's death. I did feel a bit bad for Ingrid, but it's what she deserved.
Isn't Cielo Abierto Augie's lands, not Stefi's? That the point right, that Augie is selling his lands in order to save ELisa's/Stefi's lands? I'm just glad he's acting like a human being towards Elisa. Now, if only they could find someone with some business sense to advise them on how to actually save their lands, sell their harvest, and create this new habanero export business. I want to see something finally happening with that. Not just peppers growing.
Fabulous EJ! And don't worry about the editing. The new Blogger makes that a futile effort.
I agree that Boyer is the most believable when she is bitchy.
I loved this line:
"There are so many things wrong with this scene I cannot begin to enumerate them. I haven’t enough fingers, toes or hairs on my red head."
I also don't watch ahead. Real time for me; however, you are so right that this cannot end well. Maybe the writers are toying with us again...but I doubt it.
I agree that Boyer is the most believable when she is bitchy.
I loved this line:
"There are so many things wrong with this scene I cannot begin to enumerate them. I haven’t enough fingers, toes or hairs on my red head."
I also don't watch ahead. Real time for me; however, you are so right that this cannot end well. Maybe the writers are toying with us again...but I doubt it.
What was learned in this episode:
Ingrid learned the hunk of rotting flesh found in the cenote was Kenia.
Enrique learned he has been dismissed.
Guido learned how to perfect the stink eye.
*AVANCES*
Carmina learned Augusto wants her to pull that trigger.
Ingrid learned the hunk of rotting flesh found in the cenote was Kenia.
Enrique learned he has been dismissed.
Guido learned how to perfect the stink eye.
*AVANCES*
Carmina learned Augusto wants her to pull that trigger.
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: Wednesday, July 11, 2012 at 12:08:00 AM EDT
I really do like the recaps... keep it up girls!!!!!
Permalink posted by : Wednesday, July 11, 2012 at 1:23:00 AM EDT
: Wednesday, July 11, 2012 at 1:23:00 AM EDT
Elna June, love this and love you! Friggin' Univision cut off the last five minutes so I didn't see the Carmina shotgun scene. Guess I'll see it tomorrow. Wow, this was a good episode.
Hi Ramon! Please comment again. We need more guys at the party.
Amiga, gracias for this: "I nominate Ms. Camil for an acting award here. She is brilliant as the flawed, even bad Mother who is facing a hideous fate. It is a brilliant performance." I agree. I know that Ms. Camil drives some people crazy when she goes all pathetic, (actually she drives me crazy too), but I do think she is a good actress and she really brings it home here. Good casting!
I also agree that Boyer is most believable when she is bitchy. To be fair, I'll bet people say that about me as well, but I am not on the screen so who gives a fig?
I love Flor's figure. I love that she's doesn't have obnoxious melon boobs blasting out all over the place. She looks classy.
EJ, thank you for ripping on Assgusto and Elisa's new found, ahem, relationship. Frankly it sickens me. My only relief is that I doubt AssG will be around for another 15 years to prove his "love". He needs to be recycled pronto.
EJ, I can always count on you to make me reach for the dictionary. Hymenoptera, I kinda guessed, but I had to check. Kudos to you. Is there a species that steals other offspring?
ING wants to kill Carmina? I say give it a shot. Oops, speaking of which the shotgun scene that I didn't get to see...Carmina with a gun is very scary.
EJ, I was out tonight and couldn't wait to get home to read your recap. Must be some kind of addiction, so thank you for satisfying.
Hi Ramon! Please comment again. We need more guys at the party.
Amiga, gracias for this: "I nominate Ms. Camil for an acting award here. She is brilliant as the flawed, even bad Mother who is facing a hideous fate. It is a brilliant performance." I agree. I know that Ms. Camil drives some people crazy when she goes all pathetic, (actually she drives me crazy too), but I do think she is a good actress and she really brings it home here. Good casting!
I also agree that Boyer is most believable when she is bitchy. To be fair, I'll bet people say that about me as well, but I am not on the screen so who gives a fig?
I love Flor's figure. I love that she's doesn't have obnoxious melon boobs blasting out all over the place. She looks classy.
EJ, thank you for ripping on Assgusto and Elisa's new found, ahem, relationship. Frankly it sickens me. My only relief is that I doubt AssG will be around for another 15 years to prove his "love". He needs to be recycled pronto.
EJ, I can always count on you to make me reach for the dictionary. Hymenoptera, I kinda guessed, but I had to check. Kudos to you. Is there a species that steals other offspring?
ING wants to kill Carmina? I say give it a shot. Oops, speaking of which the shotgun scene that I didn't get to see...Carmina with a gun is very scary.
EJ, I was out tonight and couldn't wait to get home to read your recap. Must be some kind of addiction, so thank you for satisfying.
"But, if you were to look up into the sky, you would see that it is not open and clear at all. It is covered with black cumuli-nimbus clouds bearing dozens of tiny iron anvils poised to fall on the father daughter pair."
Oh, Ej, this was a perfect line! Like I said the other day, the sheer fact these two are being all "I wuvvvv you" ( the walking around greenhouse scenes were a tad much last night), spells trouble. TN law, page 32, paragraph 3 states that any parental unit and child who reconcile prior to the Ultimate Episodes shall have a neagtive plot line of sadness bestowed upon them.
I guess I wasn't as admiring of II last night, more pithed that NOW she decides to realize she had a daughter, not an instrument of manipulation to riches.So in one respect, yeah she is paying for her treachery and abuse of the girl, but will she really learn? Kenia deserved so much better. The patio gang shall be lifting a special toast to our lovely lass.
Gab drives me crazy--one minute being snarky and creepy with II, then comforting when she comes home with the news. Must stop multi-layering this character!
Carmina + Asshat + rifle that neither apparently knows how to use right = trouble. Personally, and remembering this was a TN character, I was sort of like, DO IT! when she threaten to kill herself. But too early for the Creamsicle to bite the dust. Asshat on the other hand.....
Giudo actually looked rather fetching - I liked the combed back hair and stick-eye reactions at Alfi. She made herself one lethal enemy. Paolo and Flo on the other hand...add me to those who are disappointed in the l'il petite one. Manipulating Dam Stoopid is one thing, stealing someone else's child is another. Let's hope that plot backfires big time.
I bought a "I heart QuiQui" shirt last night. And I have my tee for Gael all ready to hug tonight. A Gael/Padre scene that I'm sure is going to make me need a kleenex.
Oh, Ej, this was a perfect line! Like I said the other day, the sheer fact these two are being all "I wuvvvv you" ( the walking around greenhouse scenes were a tad much last night), spells trouble. TN law, page 32, paragraph 3 states that any parental unit and child who reconcile prior to the Ultimate Episodes shall have a neagtive plot line of sadness bestowed upon them.
I guess I wasn't as admiring of II last night, more pithed that NOW she decides to realize she had a daughter, not an instrument of manipulation to riches.So in one respect, yeah she is paying for her treachery and abuse of the girl, but will she really learn? Kenia deserved so much better. The patio gang shall be lifting a special toast to our lovely lass.
Gab drives me crazy--one minute being snarky and creepy with II, then comforting when she comes home with the news. Must stop multi-layering this character!
Carmina + Asshat + rifle that neither apparently knows how to use right = trouble. Personally, and remembering this was a TN character, I was sort of like, DO IT! when she threaten to kill herself. But too early for the Creamsicle to bite the dust. Asshat on the other hand.....
Giudo actually looked rather fetching - I liked the combed back hair and stick-eye reactions at Alfi. She made herself one lethal enemy. Paolo and Flo on the other hand...add me to those who are disappointed in the l'il petite one. Manipulating Dam Stoopid is one thing, stealing someone else's child is another. Let's hope that plot backfires big time.
I bought a "I heart QuiQui" shirt last night. And I have my tee for Gael all ready to hug tonight. A Gael/Padre scene that I'm sure is going to make me need a kleenex.
Great work.
It's way too soon for Carmina to die; my guess is that she's faking and she will kill Augusto and do a lot more damage before this series ends.
Just as I found the Witchy Shoes for Rosaelena, here are the Black Widow Shoes for the Botox Queen.
It's way too soon for Carmina to die; my guess is that she's faking and she will kill Augusto and do a lot more damage before this series ends.
Just as I found the Witchy Shoes for Rosaelena, here are the Black Widow Shoes for the Botox Queen.
Ah EJ...such style when you write...luminous descriptions, sensitive comments and then boom! "slick as snot" or some other earthy observation to really jolt us out of our poetic early morning torpor.
I agree with you that the scene of Ingrid and Dr. Tovar at the morgue was superbly acted. And gut-wrenching. Camil really did a terrific job.
And the lovely wasp-waisted Flo.... Even with the noble goal of getting her dad out of prison, the plot to steal another's baby is unpardonable.
And on that subject, I remember someone wondering when Altair would get a starring role. Well, probably NOT until she gets those silicone implants that we all ahte so much. I too love her natural girlish figure but D cups seem to be a requirement for lead characters.
Paloma's road to maturity has begun, starting with admitting that she pushed the relationship with Gael, chose to run the risk and now has to deal with the consequences.
Not sure what to expect with the Carmina shotgun scene, but was guiltily happy to hear Augusto say "Go ahead and shoot." Of course he didn't specify who! (or is it "whom" Carlos?)
Well observed and beautifully crafted as always, EJ...and I love the Marta Miercoles tag!
I agree with you that the scene of Ingrid and Dr. Tovar at the morgue was superbly acted. And gut-wrenching. Camil really did a terrific job.
And the lovely wasp-waisted Flo.... Even with the noble goal of getting her dad out of prison, the plot to steal another's baby is unpardonable.
And on that subject, I remember someone wondering when Altair would get a starring role. Well, probably NOT until she gets those silicone implants that we all ahte so much. I too love her natural girlish figure but D cups seem to be a requirement for lead characters.
Paloma's road to maturity has begun, starting with admitting that she pushed the relationship with Gael, chose to run the risk and now has to deal with the consequences.
Not sure what to expect with the Carmina shotgun scene, but was guiltily happy to hear Augusto say "Go ahead and shoot." Of course he didn't specify who! (or is it "whom" Carlos?)
Well observed and beautifully crafted as always, EJ...and I love the Marta Miercoles tag!
Elna June, this was amazing. Kudos for an exceptional recap.
I had to pare down my list but my favories included: "Then with a little flick at Flo’s barren belly Alfie stalks off", "Paolo, slick as snot, is sliming on a distraught Sabrina" (which Judy already noted) and "In a harrowing scene, the sheet is lifted back from the body and Ingrid in punished in this one scene for all the wrong she ever did to either of her children".
daisy: "Carmina + Asshat + rifle that neither apparently knows how to use right = trouble" is the perfect description of yet another (likely) bumbled foray into the world of firearms. I only wish Carmina was serious. But, it is too early for her to be out of the picture.
I thought Guido looked very much as though he fit in well in prison. Surprisingly so. There was an air of anger boiling to the surface. Not that I blame him - I would not be in good humor had I been conned and abandoned.
The situation with Tonia, Brau and the loathsome Vincente is so sad. I can't imagine what is going to happen that isn't a terrible ending for at least one of these characters.
Glad Paloma is getting some pride. Dam and Elisa? Yawn.
Diana
I had to pare down my list but my favories included: "Then with a little flick at Flo’s barren belly Alfie stalks off", "Paolo, slick as snot, is sliming on a distraught Sabrina" (which Judy already noted) and "In a harrowing scene, the sheet is lifted back from the body and Ingrid in punished in this one scene for all the wrong she ever did to either of her children".
daisy: "Carmina + Asshat + rifle that neither apparently knows how to use right = trouble" is the perfect description of yet another (likely) bumbled foray into the world of firearms. I only wish Carmina was serious. But, it is too early for her to be out of the picture.
I thought Guido looked very much as though he fit in well in prison. Surprisingly so. There was an air of anger boiling to the surface. Not that I blame him - I would not be in good humor had I been conned and abandoned.
The situation with Tonia, Brau and the loathsome Vincente is so sad. I can't imagine what is going to happen that isn't a terrible ending for at least one of these characters.
Glad Paloma is getting some pride. Dam and Elisa? Yawn.
Diana
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Not quite OT, but there is a Latina fashion boutique in my 'hood whose window mannequins look like they're modeled after blow-up dolls.
Do yourselves a big favor and don't read IMDb message boards of films targeting younger audiences. The nasty comments about how Kirsten Stewart should get implants are disturbing because of what that is saying about what is considered mandatory for female beauty.
I almost got implants when I was in my 20s but it would have ruined me financially. There was also concern about what would happen later with encapsulation, etc. I wonder what's up with that right now.
Do yourselves a big favor and don't read IMDb message boards of films targeting younger audiences. The nasty comments about how Kirsten Stewart should get implants are disturbing because of what that is saying about what is considered mandatory for female beauty.
I almost got implants when I was in my 20s but it would have ruined me financially. There was also concern about what would happen later with encapsulation, etc. I wonder what's up with that right now.
elna june --- Thank you for the recap.
I really appreciate all our recappers, who must soldier on and watch and listen to this stuff.
That whole scene with Elisa & Augie walking together among the pepper plants, his arm around hers, her balloon boobs sticking out a mile ahead..... it had an ick factor that I can't quite put my finger on. Nor would I want to. Eeewww. We got our PSA on habaneros courtesy of Augie, Elisa & Televisa. FFWD-->
I was surprised there were no scorch marks on Pad Lupe's sleeve, where Carmina touched him.
She is BSC evil incarnated.
Why would Ingrid single out Carmina as the killer of Kenia? Did she know Kenia blabbed too Carmina about finding the plane tix? I can't remember.
We can only hope Carmina will pull the trigger and do herself in, but I doubt that is going to happen any time soon.
UA - I think I heard that France is paying for women to have their implants removed, because that is cheaper than all the related health issues. (or did I dream that news story?)
I really appreciate all our recappers, who must soldier on and watch and listen to this stuff.
That whole scene with Elisa & Augie walking together among the pepper plants, his arm around hers, her balloon boobs sticking out a mile ahead..... it had an ick factor that I can't quite put my finger on. Nor would I want to. Eeewww. We got our PSA on habaneros courtesy of Augie, Elisa & Televisa. FFWD-->
I was surprised there were no scorch marks on Pad Lupe's sleeve, where Carmina touched him.
She is BSC evil incarnated.
Why would Ingrid single out Carmina as the killer of Kenia? Did she know Kenia blabbed too Carmina about finding the plane tix? I can't remember.
We can only hope Carmina will pull the trigger and do herself in, but I doubt that is going to happen any time soon.
UA - I think I heard that France is paying for women to have their implants removed, because that is cheaper than all the related health issues. (or did I dream that news story?)
I saw my first advertisement for Amor B. last night - wondering do we know if that will be filling the 10:00 slot that LQNPA is about to vacate sometime soon?? And do we have a tentative start date (they didn't give one).
Don't love the 10:00 slot since I need my beauty sleep ( yeah right) to be all bright eyed for work the next day--may have to watch this one on Hulu Plus, but I do want to give it a go. I so love Silvia..and then there's "the voice".
Don't love the 10:00 slot since I need my beauty sleep ( yeah right) to be all bright eyed for work the next day--may have to watch this one on Hulu Plus, but I do want to give it a go. I so love Silvia..and then there's "the voice".
I think it will. LQNPA is the only one that's ending soon, so AB will replace it.
I think it will probably start before Labor Day unless there are multiple pre-emptions of LQNPA before then. My guess is that it will be on or about the 13th of August.
I think it will probably start before Labor Day unless there are multiple pre-emptions of LQNPA before then. My guess is that it will be on or about the 13th of August.
So elegant, so intelligent* ... and such a contrast to the graceless, lumbering plot of the novela itself. Thank you, dear EJ. And thank you too for the moral outrage which is far more than this moral quagmire deserves.
Now that the dust has cleared on the false brother/sister incest shtick, we are left with these natural and close-enough-to-incestuous-to-make-you-gag pairings: Elisa and Augusto; Alfonsina and Dam; Flor and Paolo. (We'll give Padre and Gael a pass, I think.)
Let's hope the baby-stealing plot (a Rube Goldberg contraption if ever I heard of one) gets shut down early. After all, Sabrina has three caring adults PAYING ATTENTION.
I hate spoilers too. I would have preferred not knowing about Kenia's fate a day or two early. I was clinging to the hope that she would still be found alive.
*though we leave the Shakespearian rag to our Capon, er, I mean Cap'n.:D
Now that the dust has cleared on the false brother/sister incest shtick, we are left with these natural and close-enough-to-incestuous-to-make-you-gag pairings: Elisa and Augusto; Alfonsina and Dam; Flor and Paolo. (We'll give Padre and Gael a pass, I think.)
Let's hope the baby-stealing plot (a Rube Goldberg contraption if ever I heard of one) gets shut down early. After all, Sabrina has three caring adults PAYING ATTENTION.
I hate spoilers too. I would have preferred not knowing about Kenia's fate a day or two early. I was clinging to the hope that she would still be found alive.
*though we leave the Shakespearian rag to our Capon, er, I mean Cap'n.:D
thanks, EJ!!
i totally agree that Flo deserves no mercy anymore and the Augusto/Elisa 'attempt-at-making-up-for-15-years-of-abuse' is totally overdone... and AssGusto needs to stop the sweet talk and start SHOWING his new attitude by standing up to Alfie, Gabino, et al for Elisa's sake! Lucio is right! he has to work at it, it won't just happen overnight...
also totally agree that the Guido/Alfie scenes are meh!... even though it will be interesting to see what Guido says and does once he gets freed, hopefully because his innocence was proven somehow.
and yes, it should be a doozy of an ep.. with plenty of Gael reacting to the loss of Kenya... i better get my fingers and my heart ready for some emotional scenes ahead.
now on to taking daughter somewhere and coming back to reading the comments...
thanks again EJ! my fav part was the title and your comments about AssGusto/Elisa scenes...
i totally agree that Flo deserves no mercy anymore and the Augusto/Elisa 'attempt-at-making-up-for-15-years-of-abuse' is totally overdone... and AssGusto needs to stop the sweet talk and start SHOWING his new attitude by standing up to Alfie, Gabino, et al for Elisa's sake! Lucio is right! he has to work at it, it won't just happen overnight...
also totally agree that the Guido/Alfie scenes are meh!... even though it will be interesting to see what Guido says and does once he gets freed, hopefully because his innocence was proven somehow.
and yes, it should be a doozy of an ep.. with plenty of Gael reacting to the loss of Kenya... i better get my fingers and my heart ready for some emotional scenes ahead.
now on to taking daughter somewhere and coming back to reading the comments...
thanks again EJ! my fav part was the title and your comments about AssGusto/Elisa scenes...
Doris, I think Ingrid singled out Carmina as the killer because Kenia was very obviously going after Carmina's husband. But also, as you say, Kenia knew about the tickets too. ING warned her not to say anything about them, but since when did Kenia ever do anything that Ingrid wanted? I hope Ingrid tells all she knows to the police but I imagine Gabina will try to stop her from revealing the tickets.
I agree with those who have mentioned that jail has done wonders for Gweedo. I actually enjoyed that scene.
Flor definitely moved into villain territory last night. She seem pretty determined to steal that baby.
I have a hope that überboobies will not become the new norm. Look at actresses like Silvia Navarro, Africa Zavala,Sandra Echeverria Susana Gonzalez and our Flor. They don't seem to be hurting for good roles and they have not succumbed to the scalpel. (Or at least if they did, they didn't go over the top.)
Based on Looneyvision's past behavior, I am very concerned about the frequency of which Abismo is running into LQNPA's time slot. When LQNPA ends, I would not put it past the scheduling hacks to give us a week or two of two hour Abismo eps and then move it to 10 and putting AB at 9.
Flor definitely moved into villain territory last night. She seem pretty determined to steal that baby.
I have a hope that überboobies will not become the new norm. Look at actresses like Silvia Navarro, Africa Zavala,Sandra Echeverria Susana Gonzalez and our Flor. They don't seem to be hurting for good roles and they have not succumbed to the scalpel. (Or at least if they did, they didn't go over the top.)
Based on Looneyvision's past behavior, I am very concerned about the frequency of which Abismo is running into LQNPA's time slot. When LQNPA ends, I would not put it past the scheduling hacks to give us a week or two of two hour Abismo eps and then move it to 10 and putting AB at 9.
Thanks UA fot the info on Amor.
"but I imagine Gabina will try to stop her from revealing the tickets."
Hadn't thought about that. So if Asshat doesn't bite the dust after tonight's "Let's Play with Guns" episode, wonder if he takes the fall for Kenia? Or will there be enough evidence on the body to even show it had been murder, not just an accidental drowning?
"but I imagine Gabina will try to stop her from revealing the tickets."
Hadn't thought about that. So if Asshat doesn't bite the dust after tonight's "Let's Play with Guns" episode, wonder if he takes the fall for Kenia? Or will there be enough evidence on the body to even show it had been murder, not just an accidental drowning?
Thanks Elna June, this is so well done. As NovelaMaven says, "So elegant, so intelligent..."
Sorry I missed out on the discussion over the weekend and yesterday. Thanks to Cynderella and Sara for great recaps and to all for the stimulating comments.
Judy, I hope that you are OK. When I opened the computer I was greeted with news of train car explosions in Columbus. You're our grammar czarina, but I'll go with whom this time.
Crazy woman with gun... never a good combination. I suspect our Augusto Support Group is about to be rendered obsolete.
Altair Jarabo needs no improvement or enhancement. Fortunately, I think she is fully aware of that.
I really don't wish to see her as an insipid weepy goody-two-shoes. She does naughty so nicely.
My favorite scene was Gabino spewing Tequila. Saw it coming but I'm immature enough for such as that to always crack me up.
Carlos
Sorry I missed out on the discussion over the weekend and yesterday. Thanks to Cynderella and Sara for great recaps and to all for the stimulating comments.
Judy, I hope that you are OK. When I opened the computer I was greeted with news of train car explosions in Columbus. You're our grammar czarina, but I'll go with whom this time.
Crazy woman with gun... never a good combination. I suspect our Augusto Support Group is about to be rendered obsolete.
Altair Jarabo needs no improvement or enhancement. Fortunately, I think she is fully aware of that.
I really don't wish to see her as an insipid weepy goody-two-shoes. She does naughty so nicely.
My favorite scene was Gabino spewing Tequila. Saw it coming but I'm immature enough for such as that to always crack me up.
Carlos
Carlos...good to see you back on the blog. Mike wrote me also to see if we had been near the train wreck...I hadn't even heard the news. Wasn't in the paper and haven't had the TV or radio on. But it wasn't near us, or I would have known.
And yes, I agree...it's definitely "whom"!
And yes, I agree...it's definitely "whom"!
Thank you EJ. I've made some embarrassing mistakes with auto spell corrector too. I have to remind myself to preview before send.
In the avances, I thought when Carmina held the gun up to here face that Augusto said 'Espera'.
How are they going to hide Sabrina's pregnancy? Hide her away in another town until the baby is born?
Guido had the look of vengeance in his eyes when he was talking to Alfie. I hope he pairs up with Enrique and figures it out.
In the avances, I thought when Carmina held the gun up to here face that Augusto said 'Espera'.
How are they going to hide Sabrina's pregnancy? Hide her away in another town until the baby is born?
Guido had the look of vengeance in his eyes when he was talking to Alfie. I hope he pairs up with Enrique and figures it out.
EJ, forgot to tell you that I have been called a lot worse than "Capon". I think that's got to be a new auto-correct for me. Funny!
cathyx, ITA that Alfonsina might have made herself a bad enemy in Guido. He looked very menacing during their conversation.
cathyx, ITA that Alfonsina might have made herself a bad enemy in Guido. He looked very menacing during their conversation.
"but I imagine Gabino will try to stop her from revealing the tickets."
The tickets have no blackmail market value right now, because Carmina has no money. And basically no husband anymore. Maybe Gabino doesn't know that.
Hhhmmm..... The word verification has a photo of a street sign that says "ERMITA" .
The tickets have no blackmail market value right now, because Carmina has no money. And basically no husband anymore. Maybe Gabino doesn't know that.
Hhhmmm..... The word verification has a photo of a street sign that says "ERMITA" .
Hello, Pasion Pitters! Such an inelegant moniker for such a delightful group of people. Thank you to one and all for your kind comments and for your tolerance of the egregious editing issues.
Vivi: Hola, amiga. Thank you so much for the correction. Yes, of course you are correct. The lands of Cielo Abierto seem to have been Augustos. I couldn't agree more about maximizing their business asset. One decent MBA could do them a world of good. I bet daisynjay could straighten out their finances for then tout suite.
Sara: Gracias, gracias. I owe you a character study and haven't forgotten. I will get to it. Thanks for covering for some of my many mistakes by blaming them on Blogger. What a colleague!
Anon 207: Where would we be without your lists? Your mind does a very rapid job of synthesizing data, a rare quality. I always appreciate your contributions.
Ramon Colonge: Welcome, Señor! We encourage you to comment often. We love out commenters here. I am so glad you appreciate all the recappers on this thread, and on Caray. On behalf of Sara, Novela Maven, Marta, Sylvia, Cynderella La Novia and myself, we thank you for reading our work.
Sylvia: Right back at ye. Wasn't Camil good last night? Her part is written as irritating, but give her something to sink her teeth into and she tore it apart. Our ensemble cast of actors here may be as good as any I have ever seen in TN land, with the younger acotrs being the weakest, not surprisingly. I take that back. Young Chente is such a creep he is proably a good actor. Wonderful acting and great local scenes in the Yucatan would probably keep me coming back to Pasion Pit even if I wasn't recapping. The acting is overall fabulous. The writing is...well, perhaps I will editorialize more on the writing when the show is complete. The story is anachronistic even without today's technology and is much too small to sustain 120 one hour episodes. But, enough. I digress. I am glad you were satisfied by tonight's error- laden offering.
Abrazos, dear amiga. You are no capon.
EJ
Vivi: Hola, amiga. Thank you so much for the correction. Yes, of course you are correct. The lands of Cielo Abierto seem to have been Augustos. I couldn't agree more about maximizing their business asset. One decent MBA could do them a world of good. I bet daisynjay could straighten out their finances for then tout suite.
Sara: Gracias, gracias. I owe you a character study and haven't forgotten. I will get to it. Thanks for covering for some of my many mistakes by blaming them on Blogger. What a colleague!
Anon 207: Where would we be without your lists? Your mind does a very rapid job of synthesizing data, a rare quality. I always appreciate your contributions.
Ramon Colonge: Welcome, Señor! We encourage you to comment often. We love out commenters here. I am so glad you appreciate all the recappers on this thread, and on Caray. On behalf of Sara, Novela Maven, Marta, Sylvia, Cynderella La Novia and myself, we thank you for reading our work.
Sylvia: Right back at ye. Wasn't Camil good last night? Her part is written as irritating, but give her something to sink her teeth into and she tore it apart. Our ensemble cast of actors here may be as good as any I have ever seen in TN land, with the younger acotrs being the weakest, not surprisingly. I take that back. Young Chente is such a creep he is proably a good actor. Wonderful acting and great local scenes in the Yucatan would probably keep me coming back to Pasion Pit even if I wasn't recapping. The acting is overall fabulous. The writing is...well, perhaps I will editorialize more on the writing when the show is complete. The story is anachronistic even without today's technology and is much too small to sustain 120 one hour episodes. But, enough. I digress. I am glad you were satisfied by tonight's error- laden offering.
Abrazos, dear amiga. You are no capon.
EJ
daisynjay:
I LOVE you quoting from TN law. I laughed and laughed. Yep, even those of us who do not like spoilers can see the anvils hanging low and ready to drop on the ill-fated Father Daughter pair.
Urban Anthropologist:
Good Heavens, those Black Widow shoes are sheer perfection for the Botox Queen. How ever did you find them? I LOVE them. I want a pair. OH, they are beyond fabulous. I wish I knew how to photoshop a picture of Blanca in one of her wonderful outfits with THOSE shoes. Thank you, Urban Anthropologist.
I am obsessed with wardrobe details and you have just made my day with this offering. Now I am going to imagine Alfie's final end as being crushed under one of the new greenhouses with only those SHOES showing! Wow.
EJ, grinning from ear to ear
I LOVE you quoting from TN law. I laughed and laughed. Yep, even those of us who do not like spoilers can see the anvils hanging low and ready to drop on the ill-fated Father Daughter pair.
Urban Anthropologist:
Good Heavens, those Black Widow shoes are sheer perfection for the Botox Queen. How ever did you find them? I LOVE them. I want a pair. OH, they are beyond fabulous. I wish I knew how to photoshop a picture of Blanca in one of her wonderful outfits with THOSE shoes. Thank you, Urban Anthropologist.
I am obsessed with wardrobe details and you have just made my day with this offering. Now I am going to imagine Alfie's final end as being crushed under one of the new greenhouses with only those SHOES showing! Wow.
EJ, grinning from ear to ear
Judy B.: We did not hear Augusto say that here in my braodcast. O Augusto! Must you always say or do the most hideous thing???
Good grief! Poor Marta has to recap that claptrap. One doesn't urge a suicidal person to pull the trigger. Ay Caray! I do not know what to do with myself.
Gracias amiga, for your kind words. You are so kind to say such nice things about the recap even when the grossest of editing errors are allowed to stand due to brain and time restraints. Sending you abrazos across the miles,
EJ
Good grief! Poor Marta has to recap that claptrap. One doesn't urge a suicidal person to pull the trigger. Ay Caray! I do not know what to do with myself.
Gracias amiga, for your kind words. You are so kind to say such nice things about the recap even when the grossest of editing errors are allowed to stand due to brain and time restraints. Sending you abrazos across the miles,
EJ
EJ, such an outstanding job.....you are just an outstanding person, that’s the only conclusion we can draw! I’m never good with proofing, I think it is a special talent anyway. Your ideas are so much fun, you should be exempt from proofing!
Vivi, I would love to see something happen with the Castañón habanero export business as well. After all, it seems like they have made great progress producing such a beautiful crop after having a plague to deal with. I’ve been thinking about Abismo, (like you Sara!) what is a fair comeuppance for Alfonsina? Being totally bankrupt and asking Elisa for a job would be a start, after all, Elisa sees herself as giving the Arangos a run for their money, and putting the Black Widow on her financial knees would be truly heart warming! Truthfully, bankruptcy would be only a tiny, tiny start on what that woman deserves. (Alfie is Damian’s *madre* and she will be a smiling abuela in the end, my sad prediction!)
Daisy, like you, I was a little, shall we surprised by Ingrid’s extreme sorrow, after all, it wasn’t too long ago that she left Kenia on the road to die. I’m curious to see how this plays out, will she have terribly sorrowful flashbacks realizing how she neglected her daughter or will it be business as usual? Dr. Tovar was really giving Ingrid his complete grief treatment, I fully expected him to jerk his shirt off so he would have something to dab her eyes with!
Diana, I’m glad that Paloma was able to muster some pride too, even if it was after she sniffled through helping one Dr. T’s patients! I think she is on the road to recovery, she is so much more attractive when she is not pawning over Gael.
Vivi, I would love to see something happen with the Castañón habanero export business as well. After all, it seems like they have made great progress producing such a beautiful crop after having a plague to deal with. I’ve been thinking about Abismo, (like you Sara!) what is a fair comeuppance for Alfonsina? Being totally bankrupt and asking Elisa for a job would be a start, after all, Elisa sees herself as giving the Arangos a run for their money, and putting the Black Widow on her financial knees would be truly heart warming! Truthfully, bankruptcy would be only a tiny, tiny start on what that woman deserves. (Alfie is Damian’s *madre* and she will be a smiling abuela in the end, my sad prediction!)
Daisy, like you, I was a little, shall we surprised by Ingrid’s extreme sorrow, after all, it wasn’t too long ago that she left Kenia on the road to die. I’m curious to see how this plays out, will she have terribly sorrowful flashbacks realizing how she neglected her daughter or will it be business as usual? Dr. Tovar was really giving Ingrid his complete grief treatment, I fully expected him to jerk his shirt off so he would have something to dab her eyes with!
Diana, I’m glad that Paloma was able to muster some pride too, even if it was after she sniffled through helping one Dr. T’s patients! I think she is on the road to recovery, she is so much more attractive when she is not pawning over Gael.
I am still laughing over Doris's word verification "ermita". Who says there are no ghosts in the machine?
Diana:
So happy to see you and thanks for your kind words. Dam and Elisa are SO boring aren't they?
And yes, Diana—Aren't we proud of Paloma? When she shows some self respect she might be surprised at just who comes calling. I think Gael might be into her after all. We know he finds her attractive, who wouldn't? She is gorgeous!
Elisa is more like a little boy's dream. First, she doesn't need rescuing as much anymore. Second she is just not that great a person. She is so VERY self-absorbed.
Doris, you bring up a GREAT question. Why would Ingrid jump to the conclusion that Carmina killed Kenia. I think we have all the plot points, but I was stumped by this one too.
Let's figure this out today, all!
EJ
So happy to see you and thanks for your kind words. Dam and Elisa are SO boring aren't they?
And yes, Diana—Aren't we proud of Paloma? When she shows some self respect she might be surprised at just who comes calling. I think Gael might be into her after all. We know he finds her attractive, who wouldn't? She is gorgeous!
Elisa is more like a little boy's dream. First, she doesn't need rescuing as much anymore. Second she is just not that great a person. She is so VERY self-absorbed.
Doris, you bring up a GREAT question. Why would Ingrid jump to the conclusion that Carmina killed Kenia. I think we have all the plot points, but I was stumped by this one too.
Let's figure this out today, all!
EJ
EJ: Brilliant.
I thought I heard the word "dispara" as the last word said by Augusto to Carmina. In other words, go ahead an shoot. He knows Carmina very well, so, he knows she will not shoot herself.
I thought I heard the word "dispara" as the last word said by Augusto to Carmina. In other words, go ahead an shoot. He knows Carmina very well, so, he knows she will not shoot herself.
Hola, dear Novela Maven:
As you point out so correctly, my outrage is so much wasted breath. No one, absolutely no one is listening at Televisa.
What I continue to protest, of course, is the shadiness at which the writers play the ick factor. They are not playing the age old themes of incest and child predation and child stealing and mother murder and Father murder (Vicente) with tongue in cheek. Nor are they playing them with over the top mustache-twirling melodrama.
Rather they are presenting these themes, all in the same plot, I might add, under a thin veneer of normalcy, as if they were everyday foibles.
Characters that we like, like Don Lucio, befriend and are loyal to the twisted Don Augusto and josh at him for his proclivity for "younger" women. "O you have have always liked the young ones," Lucio teases a 55 year old Augusto for falling for a 17 year old underage Kenia. Excuse me? How is this OK?
And we watch Alfie in her fine silk gown setting up her beautiful but bovine in intelligence daughter-in-law (to be) to be the surrogate in her son's bed. Major ick ,yuk, gross and many more sophisticated words that describe disgust, distaste and moral repugnance. What? Are we so sophisticated an audience that we cannot feel repelled by the goings on on in the tiny town? I do not think so. The writers have given us a morally murky world in the Pasion Pit, where only Padre Lupe, Ramona the curandera, and Delores (Sadness) maintain some high ground.
But the ground beneath their feet in quicksand, perhaps. Surely the sadistic writers toy with us yet again. Lupe has recently been to the Bishop where he was shown to ask the wrong question and to receive unsatisfactory answers. He is in his own dance macabre with Carmina and he is perilously close to enjoying it.
Ramona is lost in some non-functional broken nether world. She cannot reconcile the facts, the things her senses have perceived, with the weird knowings she gets from other worlds. On several occasions she has let Elisa, Damial and Augusto down, by not telling the truth. She is not a functional being and therefore is unable to be a real truth sayer. Although she is the Padre's great hope for healing thie long festering town cancer, she can't cure anybody right now.
And Delores is now tainted. She is married to the murderer Horacio, whom we, the audience, know is still up to no good.
All in Abismo de Pasion are mired in the Pasion Pit. Sadly, sometimes after I watch, I feel like I need a shower. I know you, my dear Novela Maven, friend and Tribe member, know just what I mean.
Elna June
As you point out so correctly, my outrage is so much wasted breath. No one, absolutely no one is listening at Televisa.
What I continue to protest, of course, is the shadiness at which the writers play the ick factor. They are not playing the age old themes of incest and child predation and child stealing and mother murder and Father murder (Vicente) with tongue in cheek. Nor are they playing them with over the top mustache-twirling melodrama.
Rather they are presenting these themes, all in the same plot, I might add, under a thin veneer of normalcy, as if they were everyday foibles.
Characters that we like, like Don Lucio, befriend and are loyal to the twisted Don Augusto and josh at him for his proclivity for "younger" women. "O you have have always liked the young ones," Lucio teases a 55 year old Augusto for falling for a 17 year old underage Kenia. Excuse me? How is this OK?
And we watch Alfie in her fine silk gown setting up her beautiful but bovine in intelligence daughter-in-law (to be) to be the surrogate in her son's bed. Major ick ,yuk, gross and many more sophisticated words that describe disgust, distaste and moral repugnance. What? Are we so sophisticated an audience that we cannot feel repelled by the goings on on in the tiny town? I do not think so. The writers have given us a morally murky world in the Pasion Pit, where only Padre Lupe, Ramona the curandera, and Delores (Sadness) maintain some high ground.
But the ground beneath their feet in quicksand, perhaps. Surely the sadistic writers toy with us yet again. Lupe has recently been to the Bishop where he was shown to ask the wrong question and to receive unsatisfactory answers. He is in his own dance macabre with Carmina and he is perilously close to enjoying it.
Ramona is lost in some non-functional broken nether world. She cannot reconcile the facts, the things her senses have perceived, with the weird knowings she gets from other worlds. On several occasions she has let Elisa, Damial and Augusto down, by not telling the truth. She is not a functional being and therefore is unable to be a real truth sayer. Although she is the Padre's great hope for healing thie long festering town cancer, she can't cure anybody right now.
And Delores is now tainted. She is married to the murderer Horacio, whom we, the audience, know is still up to no good.
All in Abismo de Pasion are mired in the Pasion Pit. Sadly, sometimes after I watch, I feel like I need a shower. I know you, my dear Novela Maven, friend and Tribe member, know just what I mean.
Elna June
Carlos:
So good so see you again! Thank you for you kindest of comments. Altair does play the bad girl splendidly, doesn't she?
Abrazos to you and the lovely Linda. I hope your Texas weather is not too terribly hot.
EJ
So good so see you again! Thank you for you kindest of comments. Altair does play the bad girl splendidly, doesn't she?
Abrazos to you and the lovely Linda. I hope your Texas weather is not too terribly hot.
EJ
Elna June,
Thanks for the fascinating analysis in your "outrage" post. Very astute observation and expression of your distaste for the sleaze swirling around this "hot" little town.
La Paloma
Thanks for the fascinating analysis in your "outrage" post. Very astute observation and expression of your distaste for the sleaze swirling around this "hot" little town.
La Paloma
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: Wednesday, July 11, 2012 at 3:03:00 PM EDT
Sandy In TN:
So good to see you and thank you for your kind words. Exempt from proofing, I love that idea. Sadly, right now, this is the best I can do, so you all are very kind to tolerate my errors.
Pasofino: Thank you.
La Paloma: Gracias.
EJ
So good to see you and thank you for your kind words. Exempt from proofing, I love that idea. Sadly, right now, this is the best I can do, so you all are very kind to tolerate my errors.
Pasofino: Thank you.
La Paloma: Gracias.
EJ
"... they are presenting these themes, all in the same plot, I might add, under a thin veneer of normalcy, as if they were everyday foibles."
Exactly, EJ. There is a breath-taking cynicism at work here. This novela is NOT a tragedy. It is, rather, a disturbing and distorted view of human nature.
When I'm recapping it, the only way I can play it is tongue-in-cheek. Otherwise, I couldn't bear to watch this show, let alone write about.
And this is why I love your recaps -- not only do we get the brilliant "starter" above the fold, we get your insightful mini-essays below the fold. The doctor is most definitely IN. And I, for one, am grateful, amiga.
Exactly, EJ. There is a breath-taking cynicism at work here. This novela is NOT a tragedy. It is, rather, a disturbing and distorted view of human nature.
When I'm recapping it, the only way I can play it is tongue-in-cheek. Otherwise, I couldn't bear to watch this show, let alone write about.
And this is why I love your recaps -- not only do we get the brilliant "starter" above the fold, we get your insightful mini-essays below the fold. The doctor is most definitely IN. And I, for one, am grateful, amiga.
Ingrid immediately jumped to thinking Carmina killed Kenia because Carmina was the only person in town who hated Kenia:
Paolo didn't care about Kenia & she wasn't pregnant with his baby anymore...Paolo wasn't interested
Augusto had always been somewhat kind & smitten with Kenia, plus he had no real motive to kill her.
Alfonsina didn't have any motive to kill Kenia either...Kenia wasn't causing problems with Alfonsina anymore.
We could say "Well, maybe a stranger could have killed Kenia" but Ingrid was told by the landlady that "a friend" called her and told her Kenia left town, plus all of Kenia's belongings were gone from her house. A strange cenote rapist wouldn't have done all of that.
The only other person who could have killed Kenia was Gabino, and Gabino showed more concern for Kenia's wellbeing than Ingrid (when Ingrid busted Kenia upside the head).
Paolo didn't care about Kenia & she wasn't pregnant with his baby anymore...Paolo wasn't interested
Augusto had always been somewhat kind & smitten with Kenia, plus he had no real motive to kill her.
Alfonsina didn't have any motive to kill Kenia either...Kenia wasn't causing problems with Alfonsina anymore.
We could say "Well, maybe a stranger could have killed Kenia" but Ingrid was told by the landlady that "a friend" called her and told her Kenia left town, plus all of Kenia's belongings were gone from her house. A strange cenote rapist wouldn't have done all of that.
The only other person who could have killed Kenia was Gabino, and Gabino showed more concern for Kenia's wellbeing than Ingrid (when Ingrid busted Kenia upside the head).
Permalink posted by : Wednesday, July 11, 2012 at 3:37:00 PM EDT
: Wednesday, July 11, 2012 at 3:37:00 PM EDT
Elna June-
I understand what you are saying and I couldn't agree more. I noticed this on the first episode of Triunfo del Amor, Osvaldo came home to be greeted by a very young sex pot in her pjs. She squealed in delight at the sight of him and jumped into his arms to say hello. We were all led to believe that it was his sweet young thing he was having an affair with. It turned out to be his daughter. At the time I thought that that was very sleazy of the writers.
Why do the writers do this?
1. They want to appeal to the type of viewer who would get turned on by such ambiguous relationships. OR
2.The writers themselves get turned on by such ambiguous relationships. OR
3.They want to normalize such foibles, as you put it. OR
4.They want to see how far they can push the envelop with the viewers before they get complaints. I'm sure they think they get higher ratings this way.
As far as revealing clothing also treated as normal, every time I see Elisa, for example with boobs hanging out of her shirt and her shorts shorter than her vest, I wonder how someone talking to her isn't completely distracted by that, or that she doesn't get men leering at and following her wherever she goes. They are normalizing the sleazy clothing too.
I know that this is just a TV show, but young people watch it and as they become numb to the sleazy behavior and clothing, they will think that all of this is normal and acceptable as they become adults.
I understand what you are saying and I couldn't agree more. I noticed this on the first episode of Triunfo del Amor, Osvaldo came home to be greeted by a very young sex pot in her pjs. She squealed in delight at the sight of him and jumped into his arms to say hello. We were all led to believe that it was his sweet young thing he was having an affair with. It turned out to be his daughter. At the time I thought that that was very sleazy of the writers.
Why do the writers do this?
1. They want to appeal to the type of viewer who would get turned on by such ambiguous relationships. OR
2.The writers themselves get turned on by such ambiguous relationships. OR
3.They want to normalize such foibles, as you put it. OR
4.They want to see how far they can push the envelop with the viewers before they get complaints. I'm sure they think they get higher ratings this way.
As far as revealing clothing also treated as normal, every time I see Elisa, for example with boobs hanging out of her shirt and her shorts shorter than her vest, I wonder how someone talking to her isn't completely distracted by that, or that she doesn't get men leering at and following her wherever she goes. They are normalizing the sleazy clothing too.
I know that this is just a TV show, but young people watch it and as they become numb to the sleazy behavior and clothing, they will think that all of this is normal and acceptable as they become adults.
Elna Jung, Your writing and analyses are brilliant and so entertaining. This was a disturbing mix of immoral, amoral and idiotic behavior but Kenia has been found and maybe Carmina will be found out first. Or like some suggest she may linger in the slime longer than others just to remain the main menace to Elisa until the very end. A duke out with Alfonsina would be an amusing climax.
I love Anon207's lists of what do we know now. You give us pause to recollect how the news bits and action are hitting various characters.
Sylvia, I remember Mom saying that serving up a capon is a special treat for your guests because of its superior and delicious taste!
I love Anon207's lists of what do we know now. You give us pause to recollect how the news bits and action are hitting various characters.
Sylvia, I remember Mom saying that serving up a capon is a special treat for your guests because of its superior and delicious taste!
Elna Jung: brilliant analysis. Thank you for expressing/explaining so brilliantly why this show makes me a little nauseous sometimes.
No rush on Fina's analysis. I am very patient. Besides, who knows what she'll do next! Today's analysis could be tomorrow's obsolete analysis. :-)
No rush on Fina's analysis. I am very patient. Besides, who knows what she'll do next! Today's analysis could be tomorrow's obsolete analysis. :-)
aarrghhhh!!
the novela has not even started and i am already preparing some soothing tea, a confy couch with plenty of soft pillows for MI GAEL... poor thing... and i am sure he will want the fewest people possible to know what is going on or about his relationship with Kenya. hopefully he will let Loopy, Elisa and/or Paloma to be with him.
the novela has not even started and i am already preparing some soothing tea, a confy couch with plenty of soft pillows for MI GAEL... poor thing... and i am sure he will want the fewest people possible to know what is going on or about his relationship with Kenya. hopefully he will let Loopy, Elisa and/or Paloma to be with him.
Oh EJ, Thanks so much! You did a wonderull recap!! I havn't read all the comments yet, but I was dying to mention that for ONCE II's hair was tucked behind her ears!! For like 2 minutes...
I pnce got offended by Will and Grace, Desperate Housewives, Sex and the City and South Park, so I quit watching those shows. No offense, but I don't understand how you can say you're offended by something then you keep watching the show. Wouldn't you better demonstrate your outrage to the "writers" by simply turning the channel and not continuing to watch? It seems unreasonable to complain, but continue to watch and recap the episode. That's hypocritical. By watching and RECAPPING, you are part of the problem. They want ratings and you are giving it to them.
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