Monday, August 06, 2012
Refugio Para el Amor #86 Mon 8/6/12 Rod Comes Close, But His Major Case of Foot-in-Mouth Disease Gets in the Way; Rosa Puts on Her Glad Rags and a Happy Face
L: And Violeta had to tell you in order for you to believe me? That’s why you came? Because you’re wasting your time, Rodrigo. You shouldn’t have bothered to come all the way here for something that is no longer important to anyone.
R: I came here to ask that you return with me; that we start anew. I want you to know that I still love you, and that everything that has to do with you is important to me.
L: Return with you? And the offenses? And the humiliations? And YOUR distrust? You and I are no longer anything (to each other).
R: With what ease you say these things.
L: With the same ease with which you ended our love; my dreams/illusions; my life.
R: Don’t pin the blame solely on me! Admit that you also failed me Luciana!
L: I admitted it! I told you that everything was true, but not like *that*.
R: Then HOW?! I need to hear it from you! Tell me! I have every right to know!
L: You HAD (the right to know). And when you had it, you didn’t want to listen to me. I begged you (regar). I pleaded (suplicar). YOU didn’t want to hear it! At that time you had a right because we were married. Now you don’t. I am no longer your wife!
R: Please Luciana. I didn’t come here to fight with you. I came to take you back with me; so that we can continue with our plans.
L: Plans? What plans Rod? Between you and me there no longer exist plans!
R: Even before Vio told me the truth, I already realized that I made a mistake. I offer you an apology. Please come with me to the capital. Let’s go.
L: I told you the truth, and you didn’t listen to me. You didn’t listen to me!
R: Well, forgive me! Everything pointed to your guilt in that moment. Why didn’t you tell me everything from the beginning? You never intended to tell me anything?!
L: Because I was afraid. Mati insisted that I tell you, but...
R: So you told HER!? And you talk to me about trust! You didn’t trust me Luciana!
L: Because I was afraid. I was afraid you’d react as you did.
R: If you had clarified things from the very beginning, things would have been different!
L: You didn’t listen to me!!! Stop getting on my case!
R: No, I can’t. YOU didn’t fight for our love! You’re the one who initiated (promover) the divorce.
R: But I never said I wanted to get divorced.
L: Then what the hell do you want, since YOU don’t trust me!?
R: Was that the reason? Or is there something else that you don’t dare tell me? Like this strange influence that Claudio Linares has over you.
L: What are you trying to say?! Tell me!
R: You heard me! You let him bring you here, up to the front door of your home. You accepted a cell phone from him, like it was nothing. Do you think I’m stupid?!! (YES!!! Yes we do Rod!) Admit that he influenced you to separate us and divorce us! Admit that you have a relationship with him!!
L: Don’t say stupid things!!! You don’t know what you’re saying!
R: Well, then you tell me! I’m sure it will prove me right. You decided to get involved with my father’s/family’s number one enemy. Why don’t you admit that you have a relationship with him?! He could be your father for God’s sake!!!
L: SHUT UP!!!!! (Yes, please shut up Rod, before you dig yourself in deeper.) You don’t know what you’re saying!...
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I'll be busy most of the day tomorrow, so I'll miss most of the comments until later in the day. I'll be chomping at the bit to read what most of you thought about the argument/near reconciliation.
I loved that Gala got the news of Rod being with Luci in Het Het, even though I can't stand the fact Don A called her. He should have stayed out of it. And Copio, no more Don Copio from me. I also can't beleived he carried the gossip to Don A.
Loved Luci's excitment about her new job and those beautiful pots being on display. Luci is quite the artist.
Oh, I also hate the fact Rod thinks there is something somthing going on with Claudio. Wait till he finds out the truth. It will be like Romeo and Juliet.
I like your little blurb at the end about the pregnancy. I had never heard of it. When I was pregnant I never got dizzy, just naseous all the time, for like six months till it finally stopped. I wonder what it is about the eyes they see? Are the pupils like dilated or something? Just curious.
Agree with you about Vio and Polo. She needs to wake up and see what a fine young man Polo is, right in front of her eyes, already!
Too funny about Julie and Frigid, especially when she missed the gossip of Rod being in Het Het, cause she was getting a payout for that purse, lol.
Loving Conny and Oscar. I think you are right about them doing it. They are a really great couple. So romantic, and I think Rosa is wrong about them. I don't think he would ever dump Conny for a younger model, but I think they will have trouble if Oscar finds out Conny knew about the baby napping.
Disclaimer - since I don't think I'll ever want Luci/Rod back together (b/c of his Nimrodness), a part of me was kind of meh about their talk. It was quite passionate and Rod, who would have thunk it, actually made sense w/his arguments. And as Madelaine notes, yes Luci is being stubborn but Rod hasn't changed. There is nothing to stop the witches from trying to put her in that situation again w/Rod playing the same role as her accuser. Moreover, his stupidity about Claudio just confirmed that he still does not trust her. He may love her but its an immature and most physical love that isn't up for real relationship challenges.
Speaking of stupid, poor Vio keeps looking for her príncipe azul and he's right there. I hope she realizes this soon b/c I'm not keen on stalker-married guy.
I hope Connie and Oscar have turned their cell phones off and enjoy their weekend. And yes Mads, they most likely will have trouble if/when he finds out Connie knew about the baby swap.
So, you guys still aren't won over by NimRod? LOL! Yeah, he still has a LONG way to go. But he made some baby steps forward tonight, and also took some giant leaps back. He still doesn't understand the person Luci is if he thinks she's using CL as a sugar daddy. And she has every reason to not trust him, as she admitted. Can't have a relationship without trust. These two have to build it back up.
I also hope that Connie and Oscar have shut down their cell phones. It would be just like Rosa to call her and demand she come back to help her deal with Rod going to see Luci and possibly finding out the truth.
Madelaine- Don't know what exactly the deal is with the eyes. I'll have to ask my mom. It's all just wives tales really, same as seeing the preganancy "glow." And perhaps American women never get the dizzy spells because we are constantly told to eat for two when pregnant. I think our problems have more to do with overeating during pregnancy than the oposite.
yep that was some argument/conversation between the leads. not sure if luci's pride here & not telling him about her real dad is a good thing or not. I don't care for rod but she obviously loves him.not saying to exactly welcome him with open arms after everything that happened, but maybe meeting him halfway there? if someone is the love of your life(as they believe), wouldn't you want them close. think the concept of dating shoudl be introduced to them. of course silly me, trying to make sense of love in a tn hahaha
loved your recap vivi, esp the paragraph about the 'harem of domestic workers', too funny! and 'Ariche is up to his usual—school, flute, slingshot, junior lawyer, personal bodyguard to damsels in distress, man about town, etc.', such a cool kid
jlk
I have a question, is there suppose to be an age difference between connie and oscar? I know that rosa has said that oscar is going to leave connie for someone younger, blah blah blah, but did she also criticize their age difference or something? I think they look great, and are super cute together, never noticed if there was suppose to be a difference
jlk
I think Luci did intend to tell Rod that Claudio is her dad, but kept getting interrupted and kept getting more enraged the more Rod provoked her. But that's also a REALLY complicated truth to reveal, as it would open up the whole can of worms about Rosa. I really don't think Luci wants to hurt Rod and his siblings by revelaing this truth about their mama.
Ariche is a cool kid -- that's a big statement from me, too.
Rod still has his head in the wrong place; he should have reacted to Don A referring to Luci as his palomita.
1) What does the term "Het Het" mean. I realize it's Where Paz, Achilles & Madga reside. But thought it was called San Francisco El Alto.
2). What does D.F. Stand for? In the TN they refer to where the Torreslandas, Violeta, Lorenzo & Estelita as the Capital. But just confused for the lack of understanding of these review references.
Thank you!
D.F. means Districto Federale in other words Mexico City. We use the shortened version D.F. here.
Now Dumbass could take a few lessons from Oscar, Mr Sauve. How cute he reserved two rooms. I found that endearing...sent a great message to Connie that he just wanted to be with her, would not do anything she didn't want to, wasn't pushing anything. What a guy...he needs to be packaged or cloned.
Rosa knocked it out of the park in that purple dress--wow. Even I was impressed, but she is down-right scary when she turns on that I'm Happy in Lalaland routine. Couple of those looks from Pato seemed to say the same thing.
Always fun to see some air come out of Gala's over-inflated ego. And Julie with a hangover--didn't think she was capable of one since she never seems to stop drinking long enough to get one. That woman has champagne bubbles in her bloodstream.
Ok, we have a pregnant Luci who told her ex to get lost. Pato, get yourself to Het Het fast!
So I don't mind so much that Luci didn't clarify things. She and CL had a father-daughter relationship long before they knew that's what they truly were. Rod needs to learn to trust her. Period.
Urban- I don't know if it clicked in his mind that Aquiles is the man Gala/Julie/Rosa accused Luci of having a thing with in her pueblo. He certainly didn't give Luci a chance to sit down with him and tell the whole long story, like she did with his siblings and cousin after all heck broke loose. I guess he figured staking his claim and saying Luci is his wife was enough to scare the old bugger off.
I have to agree with the comments that Rod is making progress but sadly, his immaturity and jealousy are preventing him from making real strides. Luci should have told Rod but she did nothing wrong. He didn't listen to her and what he managed to hear, he didn't believe. He broke down but Luci has cried a river of tears over him.
Have a 7:30 meeting so have to run but Vivi, have to mention that the conversation translations were great and very much appreciated. You rock!!
Diana
Yes, Rod is stupid. All the fainting spells that Luci is having is probably the lead paint she's using in her pottery barn.
Shocked that Julie hasn't shown up to rain on Connie and Oscar's parade. Didn't Oscar give Connie a fake name at there luv shack: Ines White or something like that.
Probably Luci doesn't want to be around Rod anymore because these anger spells may make his head explode and she doesn't want to be in the splash zone.
Bet those tacos are really, really good. Carna esada in the mini masa with cilantro and onion slivers. Oh yea!
Love Don A, Archie, Luchita and all the Het Het locas.
I laughed when Pas looked into her daughter's eyes and predicted pregnancy. My grandmother used the same method and was always 99.9% right.
Olive
I keep thinking some "emergency" will come up, forcing Connie to leave. I would not put it past Julie for a second should that occur to sneak into Oscar's room and be "waiting". No spoiler - just a hunch Julie will insinuate herself somehow. Ack.
Diana
I want to see Oscar and Connie go for it. Whatever their age difference it isn't ridiculous and Connie needs to show her sister what for!
I was glad to hear Ariche mention school though. I was wondering if he did anything besides wander. Can he add "marriage counselor" to his list of duties? Because that may be the only way these two come back together as stubborn as they both are.
Kelly
I particularly appreciate the time you spent on the passionate encounter between Rod and Luciana. So much yearning and longing, yet so much fear and distrust! Powerful scene. Romantic that I am, I kept saying, C'mon, Luci, forgive the big lug and do yourselves both a favor! Alas, too soon for that.
I think Oscar reserved two rooms at Connie's request after the Roselena tear down. Remember when she said she "needed to talk to him before they went". I think separate rooms were requested then. But I'm quite sure, like you, that they'll end up in the same room.
I love the way he says her name. And how he loves the look in her eye, but also her legs etc.! This guy can do no wrong.
And neither can you. Just a beautifully written recap. Gracias, my talented friend.
He should know Luci doesn't have interest or a relationship with CL, but I don't blame him for thinking CL has intentions with Luci. We have the benefit of knowing the truth, but all Rod knows is the family enemy is being overly nice to sweet, young Luci.
So we now know that Luci is pregnant - I wonder how long before Rod finds out? Which scene will be better - finding out she is pregnant or that CL is her father?
Second---I don't think that it will help Luci very much if she tells NimRod the truth about Claudio because---when Claudio files his upcomming lawsuit against the Torreslandas or the family business, NimRod will come unglued and probably fly into another fit of rage and somehow, I don't know how, in his mind it will be Lucie's fault as he might think that she encouraged it.
OK I was stunned by the ending I have never in my life heard that Oh Look At Your Pregnant Eyes thing!!
I LOVE the Connie & Oscar subplot -- they are my fave couple! I really gasped the day Rosa did her "mira tu cuerpo Connie el espejo no miente" thing....WOW!! Who would say that? WHO WHO WHO?? Why Rosa of course...
I had no doubt that Luci was pregnant -- as is Gala and Vio too probably because in my experience nobody has sex in a novela without getting pregnant immediately.
OK I'm the biggest geek but my daughter & I have been following the cast's twitter pages. They are really interesting. Actress who plays Vicky seems like a doll (is trying to give away some rescued kittens, but only to someone who will care for them!) and it turns out her dad is Japanese & she has cute pix of her with all her little japanese cousins. Also a cute surprise, Aldo & Melissa madly in love and constantly posting smoochy tweets to each other such as "happy four month anniversary" and "el mejor novio del mundo!!" They seem to have lots of Connie & Oscar type weekends at cool places in MX and post photos. CUTE COUPLE!
As for Rosa anybody else wondering about her brain scans and stuff? I kind of think it will turn out she has a brain tumor that's been making her act insane for 20 years and maybe she will get an operation on Boe-Stone or somewhere, she will be fully made up during this operation and when she wakes up she will be sorry for everything?
I just don't see any happy ending involving this Torreslanda clan the way these 2 parents are, they're both total psychos!
Well, there were some suprises in last night's episode.
1. It's too early for a permanent make-up for *drift wood* (thank you, Olive, it's perfect) and Luci. The writers don't seem to be disposed to treat us to all the silly stuff of multiple breakups and makeups (at least I hope not and that's the surprise).
2. Luci stood her ground. Rod stood his ground. They both enjoyed that kiss. If he hadn't been so rough with her, physically, she might have lowered her guard a bit. Glad she didn't. That was a surprise.
3. Roselena putting on a happy face to go with that knockout dress was a surprise. Both the actress and the character can react with extremes of emotion that constantly surprise me. From fetal position to femme fatale! That was a surprise.
3. Conny and Oscar--best of luck to both of them. He's taking his time and doing the wooing just right. I hope Conny isn't too much of a schmuck to take her sister's consejos to bed with Oscar. She needs to let loose, but I think she is ready to do that, hang what Rosa says. We'll see if she surprises us. BTW, she looked fantastic in the car.
4. Gala and the biddies. The biddies need to quit enabling Gala. Her mother is doing a great job all by herself. Well, no surprises there.
5. Fridgidaire surely hopes the gossip never runs out or her purse won't fill up. She's the one who is going to be surprised with what comes next. Will she be the one to tell Dumb and Dumber about Rod's heredero or will they tell her?
6. What purpose does Ofelia's return serve? That was a surprise to me. Maybe to help with the taco business. They can really get ahead doubling the number they can make. And what was Estelita living on all this time? She always seemed to be at home.
7. Don A is still Don A. As long as he isn't hurting anyone, his bombast is very entertaining. So, keep surprising us, Don A.
Anita
Olive- Interesting to hear that your abuela also goes with the eyes method for detecting pregnancy. I wonder where it originates?
Anita- Isn't it wonderful to have a heroine who not only has convictions, but also sticks to them.
Glad to know I'm not the only one rooting for Oscar to get lucky tonight. :) Go Oscar, go!
Katie- Gosh, I really hope Vio is NOT pregnant. She does not need that complication in her life, and Marcial creeps me out. It would serve NimRod right if Gala ends up pregnant or pretending to be. Idiot.
I have never seen such a thing! You have to have some kind of hotplate going on even if it's plugged in to the cigarette lighter of the truck or some scary beat up gas tank or charcoal hibachi...
Is that how things are done in La Capital??
http://goodfoodmexicocity.blogspot.com/2010/11/tisket-tasket-tacos-de-canasta.html
And this: http://www.renayork.com/2010/12/los-tradicionales-tacos-de-canasta-del-guero-americanista/
About pregnancy and fainting, wouldn't a pregnancy that is compressing MAJOR arteries in your legs be pooching out quite a bit in front, too?
btw WTF with Melissa and Claudio subplot he seems old enough to be her grandfather! Please let this be a one way street & temporary infatuation. Why can't she hook up with Fabian? He's cute! Polo is getting to be a fave but NUMBER ONE FAVE IS OSCAR! He wouldn't have to spring for 2 rooms if I was his date!
Wow Vivi thanks for the links I have never heard of tacos en canasta before! The way we do it here, the guys make little traveling grills like this one in East LA:
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_Odu2ckc2A6c/TCwpxaqE4sI/AAAAAAAAC68/Bd70No2kwXQ/s400/Arandas_crew2.JPG
Glad you like Oscar. He's definitely my fave also. Can't imagine Melissa and Linares ever hooking up. This has to be a temporary WTF indeed.
And isn't Vivi great? She gets us information on just about every topic relevant to this telenovela. Great resource.
Katie- Galan sperm always works VERY quickly.
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