Caray, Caray!

Didn't get home from the beach until 9pm and was so worried that storms might have messed up my scheduled recording while I was away. Whew! It was there, and it was quite an episode. It was so nice to see Rosa have to face the music, for once. Now I have to go watch Friday's episode. I hope everyone had a great weekend!
 

Vivi--Marvelous, wonderful, great as always recap. So glad Rod confronted the la loca mama, finally, finally, and he didn't cave. Yay! He is so redeemed in my eyes. Unless he does something drastic again, he is undead to me! Loved how he wouldn't back down and made his mama tell all. I hope she tells all to the family and not how this "suffering" made her do it. Loved how Hanna and Melissa cried, and Pato too.

Why did they black out Pedro Campos? I wonder if we will ever see what he looks like. I wonder what Max is going to do about him?


That Champagne Queen and Gala, ugh. I loved how Conny told Frigid to get her some champagne lol. Gala loves to push Rosa buttons. Love how Rod the Bod put the kibosh on the Canada idea. That was really good. She can't push him around anymore, neither his loca mama or Gagme.

Loved what Conny said about her children. Let them live and learn, instead of being on a short lease with lots of you can't do that. Conny so has it right.

Really liked that picnic with the boat with Vio and friends. So sweet and loved Fabian's voice. Thanks also for the song lyrics Vivi. I really like Pepe Aguilar. Loved his music from Destilando Amor too. Your right, I really wish Vio would wake up and see Polo instead of Marcial. Polo is sooo much better for Vio.

Is there no end to Max's creepiness? I was worried about Melissa when he was talking to her. He looked so creepy when he put those sunglasses back on. It was almost like a foil to hide his evil eyes.

Now I'm really worried for Claudio. Since he wants to make Luci his sole heir, this is very troubling. Those Torreslandas, Max and the la loca, especially are dangerous. I hope Claudio watches his back and Luci's too. I don't trust Max and Rosa for anything. And I don't blame Luci for not wanting to confront the TL's. They have treated her so badly in the past. Luci is so not into revenge, she just wants to be left in peace. Maybe at some point she will be able to handle it. I think it will be awhile before that happens. Loved Ariche here too, so cute.
 

Oh, I meant Conny asked Frigid to get the Champagne Queen some champagne lol.
 

I'm not so worried about Claudio ad i used to be. He has changed his will, his wishes have been made known. Rod knows that Luci is a Linares and with any luck the rest of the family will know tomorrow.

I can understand Luci's reluctance to return to the DF and face down basically Rosa but she has all kinds of support and shouldn't let one woman so dominate her life.

Noticed Gage slinging back the wine while waiting for the fireworks.

La Loca really clings on to her madness. No one on planet earth believes there was anything between Max and Aurora but she won't let it go. She keeps saying the woman stole the love of her husband while conveniently forgetting how she gives him the cold shoulder every time she can. He tried to warn her that the shit storm was coming but she couldn't be bothered to listen.

I too wondered why it was necessary to block out Campos' face? Is he going to come back and play a part in the story. That scene reminded me of way too many let's extend the novela by adding some character out of left field.

I was actually surprised that Rosa kept the servants in the room when she made her confession. Since she considers them beneath her it seemed out of character and in any case Mati know the whole story.
 

Vivi thanks for your recap and the lyrics were an added bonus. Glad you had a nice time at the beach.

The more I see of Rosa whenever she is confronted by that inconvenient thing called the truth, she proves she is a willful, evil woman. Where does illness come into the equation unless illness = evil? And using UA's comment from Friday, Max believes he is the sane one in the marriage when we all know he is NOT sane.

Watching Rod ignore Gala was fun. And the expression around the table during the confrontation/reveal were priceless.

Add me to the list of intrigued by the secrecy of Campos. Maybe he'll come back and mess with Max or Max will finally cross the line and kill someone.

Please Vio, open your eyes and see Polo, who is worlds ahead of the lemon-faced guy.
 

so, just wondering... when you said "bitch bitch bitch" were you referring to what Julie, Gala and Crazy Eyes were doing or to the fact all three of them were present and accounted for?

haha... : )

great recap, thanks so much!
 

Chispa- Clever lady. I was indeed referring to both.
 

Absolutely Fabulous Vivi!! What a delicious episode(that goes for the food too.)You added such great details, complete with song lyrics. ( And if Vi doesn't open her eyes and drop the Lemon Sucker, I give up on her.)

Love how the writers of this TN like to compare the two "groups". In Het Het, even their disagreements are done with love and listening to each other.

Then we have the mansion from Hell. Hats off to Laura F. She was just all over the place with her emotions and facial expressions--going beautifully between Rosa's tries at manipulation of those around her, to just the plain loca evil she is. Max's explanation that her crazy wrong ideas about Aurora and jealousy have just taken her over. She's right, she lived with it every day to the point that it has driven her crazy. Add that to her obsessive need to control everyone and everything to be the way she wants it--she's just lost.

I hope this doesn't turn into a pity fest for her though by the usual parties, and trying to make everyone feel sorry for Rosa. She was WRONG, and needs to understand that from those she loves. Somehow I think she lives to destroy another day.

I think we will be getting a visit from the new and improved Campos. After 20 years, maybe he's gone thru enough of a change that Max won't recognize him?? Or will Max know him, and have to keep his identity under wraps because Campos blackmails him. Don't think we've seen the last of him.

Lots to look forward to this week.
 

Great recap, Vivi. Loved many parts:

Very good description of Max; "a sinister mix" of "the Godfather and Jack Nicholson"!

Rosa is "micromanaging" the dinner.

Loved "We do have other children whose lives we can mess up too, you know! Patricio is our perfect next victim, and Hannah is at a difficult age…”

My favorite, “Rod gives her the universal “talk to the hand” gesture.” Thought the same thing myself.

Now really, how many shocked faces could there be?
Pato knew, Oscar knew, Connie knew, Melissa knew, Max knew, Rod knew, Mati knew; probably Brigida, OK, Julie, and Gala may not have known but they don’t care, Hannah is about the only one who this was news. Aldo, also. Rosa had not much to lose to reveal this "secret". But she isn't repentant, she'd do it again in a second.

I do wonder where they are going with the Claudio's inheritance. I do hope he's not being written out of the story any time soon!
 

Emari- Pato did not know. He only knew about Luci's baby. But yes, most know. Even Gala and Julie. Frigida, Aldo, Pato, and Hannah are learning it for the first time. The others are just shocked Rosa's admitting it.
 

I am wondering if having this secret out that Rosa will calm down a little.
 

Vivi, hope you had a wonderful time at the beach - you deserve it.

Perfect title. The recap was excellent and chock full of details. "...that bore Boris", "go to bathe off their offending sweat", "Rosa pretends Connie isn't speaking" (I actually laughed out loud) and "back to a family that's actually functioning" were only a few of my favorite lines.

Luci was demonlike in her voiced hatred of anyone Linares. Rod looked stunned and skewered to the marrow. And poor Hannah looked like her heart would break after Rosa's forced confession.

Madelaine, I'm thinking perhaps Pedro Campos will be revealed before the end. I don't think Max will find him. Pedro will reveal himself in his own way, in his own time. Karen, I suspect Pedro's timing will be impeccable and he will appear to foil whatever revenge plan Max cooks up (speculation not spoiler).

And Max is reminding me of Gollum more with each passing days. The bulging eyes, the shrieking, the histronics...Ack.

Vivi, thanks again for the marvelous recap.

Diana




 

Good one, Vivi. I always love getting episodes like this.

What I don't think will shock anyone is Rosa's lack of repentance. This public display of her crazy should push someone to the P word and the M word, but... that would interfere with Rosa's interference, which is the cornerstone of this tale.

Campos probably had plastic surgery since the crime, but that doesn't mean Max can't make trouble for him.

Does anyone else think that the Torreslanda mansion could go down in flames near the end?
 

Vivi! stellar recap. Loved the comparisons of Rod to a bull ready for the fight with red outfit and all!... Totally loved how both Oscar and Pato rebutted to Gala about 'asking Rosa to speak to Rodrigo so he will treat her right'... GMAB!!! Pato is so right, I need to remember that analogy of the word 'casados' with 'casa de dos'... good one!
Also LOVED how Rod gave her the hand gesture. as time passes it is easier and easier for Rod to totally block Gala's yelling (he can't stop her from yelling, but by now it should be clear to her that neither her nor his mother have any control over him or over what he does or doesn't do)...
Not sure if I like that Claudio is all but forcing Luci to come back to the city with him to face the TL's... What she wants to do is forget the TL's as a whole, why drop her right back in the middle of that lion's cage? even if Claudio stuck around to protect her... If Luci's return to the city means she will be at the TL offices things will get mighty interesting. At least by now Oscar will also be solidly standing on Luci's ship and will help Rod protect her, or at least will not be so willing to do 'as Max says' if it is anything against Luci. Even Pato will make it to the office more often if he knows she will be around, to protect her as well.
 

Vivi,

Triple awesome recap - absolutely fabulous; you are a true perfectionist and imagine that you are a super conscientious dynamo on your job as well.

Not really watching this novela full strength but figured this episode would be worth the while. I loved the parallel structure with the comparison of the three
meals - from casual and cozy on the boat to formal and frigid at the TL house and everything in between.

Whenever anyone in a novela says that he will protect a person,
I see red flags immediately.

This has probably been covered earlier but I missed it. How far is it to Het Het and how does one get there? only by car? is there some kind of landing strip?

If Luciana becomes a big time executive, I would love to see her in a business suit and heels with a different hair style. Her simple, down home look is a bit too back woods for me.

I am not ready to forgive Rod
for his treatment of Luci.
the ink on his marriage license hadn't even dried when he broke all of his promises to her; when a guy (or gal) marries, they leave their parents and cleave to the spouse if it's true love - plain and simple.

Thanks, Vivi for the song lyrics;
I had made a note to look them up.
I want to learn them. I too love the music Of PA --and loved your tremendously detailed recap.

All the best! (I enjoy all comments.)
 

Tremendous recap!

Leave Luci alone. She is just fine the way she is. And, I agree with her leave me out of it approach.

The less the Tl's the better off she is.

As satisfying as it was to see Rosa loca have to do a tell all they still didn't lay a glove on her. She would do it again with a different child. The entire family has to witness a confrontation like Rod and Rosa before they will fully understand that Rosa loca is totally nuts from envy of Aurora. I guess Aurora is her Borealis.

Rod is going to regret this showdown with Mama cause' she is totally into payback.
 

Boy Vivi, you outdid yourself on this one. Beautifully written from start to finish, complete with picture and song lyrics as well. Just outstanding.

My favorite, like Emarie's was your description of Max as a sinister mix of the Godfather and Jack Nicholson.
And of course your noting of Rod's red sweater making him look like an angry bull.

Roselena was absolutely chilling in this one. The strength of her hate and malice makes her "confession" totally free of any real reprentance and regret. It's clear that if she has an opportunity to hurt Luciana again, she WILL. That's what really frightened me about last night. There is simply no end to her ill will and desire to hurt.

Awesome episode. Even more awesome recap. Thanks Vivi.
 

It occurred to me that Roselena is more likely to commit murder than Max. She is far more cold-blooded than he is.
 

Thanks everyone. Taking a break from meetings to check in. I agree that what is so scary is that it's clear Rosa would still stop at nothing to destroy Luci, because in doing so she is getting revenge on Aurora. Rod should see this and know that Luci and his baby are in real danger.

The confession is fascinating to watch, but without real regret, we know Rosa will be back to her old delusional bossy evil self in no time. Only jail or death will stop her, but the only people willing to put her behind bars are CL and Magda, and maybe Melissa and Paz (although that would be tricky legally for Paz as she was part of the crime). The rest of the family refuse to take that step and will close ranks to protect Rosa from any legal consequences. And Luci, who cares too much about the TL kids is the only thing standing in the way of CL pressing charges and Rosa being thrown in jail. I hope she has a change of heart about this when she sees how dangerous Rosa is, but I doubt it.
 

I also doubt it.

One also can wonder whether Max would have called in the Nice Young Men In Their Clean White Coats to get her if he had witnessed the scene in the library. He can't be unaware that her mental state could be dangerous to himself, his business, and their social position at the same time.

Which would explain why they don't entertain outside the family.

I don't like Aldo, but I love how he handled Rosa's presumptuous criticism of him.

Pato is the voice of reason in this family, but he has no authority to have Rosa committed.
 

Actually Julie and Gagme did know the truth, they did some research and figured it out and Julie even mentioned it to Rosa. Only Pato, Jana and Aldo were clueless.

I agree that Claudio has to talk Luci into facing down the TL's with him. Like it or not she is going to inherit a fortune and she needs to learn how to deal with it. Unfortunately for her she and to a degree Paz have built Rosa into a super monster and if she doesn't face the woman down she will live the rest of her life in fear.

We've reached the point in the novela which always happens with me when the heroine begins to get on my nerves. Luci's constant saying that she just wants to stay in her pueblo with her peeps and spend her time pot painting is annoying. She is going to have a baby, the child of a wealthy and powerful family. The child has a right to the kind of life Luci was denied. Does she really think it is okay to raise a child in a area where there is no work and the young people all have to leave. She has to think for both of them and that means like it or not she has to put on her big girl panties and go to the DF. Het Het is and always will be there for her spiritual refuge but she needs to listen to Claudio and see the bigger picture.

I'm wondering how long it will be as Rosa'a confession continues before she throws Max under the bus and blames him for all of it because he was an adulterer. He was careful not to do it when Rod confronted him, only telling the story and adding that Rosa was sick. He always protects her.

I couldn't believe my ears when Rosa told Max they had other children she had to protect. this from the woman who once went to Pato's room to rant at him for not eating and never even noticed he was running a fever. Conny who knows what it is to be a real mother picked up on it right away. Rosa is a mother in name only.
 

Yep, Decie Girl. Only Frigida, Aldo, Pato and Hannah were in the dark.
 

Luci not wanting to jump right into the viper's nest makes perfect sense to me. It's self preservation, something I find most heroines in tns lack. Especially while she's pregnant, it makes sense that her instinct is to protect herself and her baby. It agree that she needs to learn to manage all that money and she needs to stop leatting fear of Rosa negatively affect her life. I don't think she should stop fearing Rosa, because that would be stupid. Rosa is dangerous, and Luci should never let her guard down with her.

But there are many years yet before Luci has to worry about educating her child, and I'm sure there are perfectly good schools in the state of Chihuahua, without having to go live all the way in D.F. Plus, I'm not convinced that Luci won't make her own fortune, without having to touch TL money, with her pottery, for which she can remain in Het Het. The real issue is being able to take over the biz from CL and allowing her child to have a relationship its father. That's the only part of her life that needs to involve D.F. and the TLs.

As for Luci getting a more sophisticated look-- I like her current look, but sure, why not? But please, do NOT let it involve towering high heels and cleavage. That would not be true to character (and frankly I'm tired of that look), and Luci would hate it. She barely managed the stuff she wore when she and Rod were married and working on their Church wedding.
 

Oh Vivi, oh Vivi! I am so glad this rip snorting great episode fell into your supremely capable hands. The acting was all high key and enthralling and your insightful telling was deep and satisfying.

I am worried about Luci for not only what Rosa might do but for what Gagme Gala and her Grifter of the Year mother may think up to eliminate the competition for Rodrigo. I also wonder if Rosa will go the brain tumor route to get sympathy from her tender, indulgent family.


 

Cheryl- I meant to say welcome back the other day! I agree that Gala and Julie are just as dangerous and as much of a threat to Luci as Rosa, and Luci knows this. With those three b/witches loose, I am very fearful for the health of Luci and her baby.
 

I would worry about Luci with the three witches but she has loads of people who will go to the mat to protect her, Paz, Magda and the barrio folk, Pato, Oscar to an extent, Rod, Claudio for sure,. Even Max would try to protect her because he likes her, she is Aurora's daughter but mostly to protect Rosa from doing anything else criminal and insane.

Vivi I forgot that Luci would want her baby to have a relationship with Rod now that he knows about it. I also think she wouldn't want to cut the baby out of Jana and Pato's lives. I agree about a make over with tight short skirts, cleavage and come F me shoes. those are best left to Gagme. There is a happy meeting ground between the extremes we see now, she could go the Melissa route which is a little artsy and still ladylike and classy. Only time will tell.
 

Vivi--Viva Vivi! Gracias, amiga. You are our super multi-tasker, even fitting a week at the beach into your busy schedule. This was a marvelous episode to recap, hard as it was to catch all the dialog.

And yes, Julie and Gagme were figuring things out with their trip to the cemetery office.

Decie Girl--You are our voice of reason for Refugio refugees.

Rosa has no real maternal feelings. To her, the family represents prestige and social position--especially having engendered two males (remember the picture frame of her and her two sons, but no Jana). Traditional values are followed religiously, as is religion.

The members of the family are her possessions, like her furniture and knicknacks. She goes to great lengths to preserve them intact, clean them, dust them, admire them, keep track of them, letting no harm come to them.

I'm going to speculate that she and Max were very much a team in the early days of their marriage (so much has been hinted at) growing the business, but I think with the arrival of Rodrigo & Patricio, her attention turned toward running an uber-respectable household that her up-and-coming empresario husband would need.

(P.S. The reason we don't see them entertain outside the home may be more the writers fault for not giving them opportunities with other people. The story is so intense that it just can't accommodate any more people or "frivolous" gatherings. They did have that shindig at the beginning of Refugio where Luci arrived dressed up and stole Rodrigo's whole heart. And then there was Gagme's failed civil wedding which was another big bash.)

However, Max slipped out of her control. She was no longer part of Max business life, so her imagination took control. Then Rodrigo started to slip out of her control.

Setting the sin/crime she committed with baby Luci aside, the outcome would have been different if Rodrigo had gone ahead and married an "approved" bride--one Rosa thought she could control. But for Rodrigo to have publicly humiliated her choosing not to marry Gala and chosen the one Amor Prohibido sent her teetering over the edge of sanity.
Anita
 

Vivi - terrific recap. Fun catching up with the Torreslandas.

So glad Rod found out about all so early in Luci's pregnancy. His mother's a loca, but Rod needs to focus on what "he's" going to do to fix things. I want to see how he'll protect Luci and the baby from the three b/witches.
 

RE: a Makeover -

definitely not towering high heels and cleavage; I was thinking along the lines of a designer business suit with conservative but fashionable shoes with hair pulled back and possibly up a little higher.

Forgot to mention, I like the comment about casa-dos. Is that the true origin?

Also loved the Godfather/Jack Nicholson remark.
 

Thanks, Vivi! Excellent episode. I continue to be impressed by the acting--and you know, I never feel that way about TNs.

You hit it on the head with the Jack Nicholson and Godfather reference.

Yay for Luci sticking to her guns and not letting wealth change her. Did anyone else think that CL and Paz have the beginnings of something brewing??
 

I keep wishing that Luci would take Claudio up on his offer of helping her. She is in a position now to help Lorenzo and the gang in the DF. She could set up Lor and Fab in their business, encourage Lor to go back to school- otherwise he has zero chsnce with Jana. As a member of the TL team, much to Rosa's horror, she could insist on her own office and bring Ofelia in as an assistant. The girl doesn't want to work in Infierno, worries about money and doesn't want to be a servant, plus which she speaks English. I'd really love to see what Rosa would call the nacos, succeed in business and with their humility and charm wowing everyone they meet.