Caray, Caray!

Happy Holidays to Caray friends and lurkers. Mena
 

I wanted to get the recIap up quickly and I have been busy this week like many of you. There is some interesting vocabulary that I will add in when I have a chance.

 

Thank you, Mena.

Apart from Isadora, Desalmada (oh, for want of more Mujeres Asesinas jokes) I've been away from this show long enough that two things are alien to me:

1. When did Dionisio get all obsessive over Camila?
2. Who's the third guy who makes up the Overly Mexican Brothers 2.0 group with Pablo and, I think, Yago? (It was a scene at Amanda's in Tuesday's episode that did it.)
 

Mena- What a great recap on a not so fun episode-- Ximena's wake and then her funeral. How sad that no one could come up with any happy memories of her, except for FX and his fake happy memories. Guest was also being delusional and I'm glad Cam set her straight and told her not to try to make Xi a saint now that she's dead.

Dio is an idiot if he believes anything that Isa says, but their scenes in the hospital were the best part of the episode. Dio hit the nail on the head-- Isa isn't human.

Hey Bill! I'm not sure which guy you saw at the hostel the other day. It wouldn't have been Iago because although he is secretly dating Natalia, he has never set foot in hostel. His younger brother Pablo is now living there, as he left home since his parents won't accept Luzma. Dan is often at the hostel and so are Rafael and his brother Aaron, who up till now has been playing the role as Daniel. At the MQ ranch the is Rodolfo and Elueterio, who were speaking to Dan at the wake. Other than that there's Mariano, the oldest Albarran brother. Not sure what other man you might not be recognizing. As for Dio's obsession with Cam-- that started when he met her on her wedding day to Al. He started out joking to Al that he just might steal her away from Al. Then when Al had his problems in the bedroom, Dio joked that he would be better at the job. Al was not amused and often told Dio to stay the hell away from Cam. Instead Dio found more reasons to be around Cam, even marrying her mother to be close to her. The more Cam has pulled away from him, the more distrustful she is of him, the more involved with Dan she gets, the more his obsession grows.
 

That's Gussy not guest. Stupid auto correct!
 

So did no one else figure out who Chayo was as soon as they said her name in the emergency room and reacted to hearing Al's name and age? If it wasn't obvious to anyone else, I'm not going to talk about it, but it was clearly the big thing that happened this episode.
 

Now that you mention it, Vivi: I missed the initial reaction shot, but I was wondering why that seemingly insignificant nurse had been given a name. Let alone a second reaction shot at the end of the episode. And since it is (would be?) one of the dearest of all novela cliches...oh yes, I can definitely see it happening.

As for Dionisio--yeah, I forgot about the cracks he made a while back about stealing Camila from Alonso, but I blew them off figuring he was mostly focused on La Malquerida and just keeping his pimp hand strong. I had no idea he was actually going to go Humbert Humbert on suckers...
 

Mena, thanks for the great recap.

So sad, but so glad Xi is dead. She was becoming as obnoxious as her mother. She really didn't deserve such a nice funeral.

Vivi, yes, I caught the Chayo connection! Will she be the one that Isa tries to bribe to kill off Al once and for all?

Rosemary Primera

 

So is Chayo a nickname for Rosario?
 

Audrey- Yes. In fact when Salomon told Al he said her name is Rosario Sanchez, but everyone called her Chayo.
 

Bill- Dio is mostly focused on MQ, but Cam runs a close second these days. I think that's mostly fuelled by a sense of manly competition with Dan/Andres. Winning over his daughter Nat and getting back at Amanda is running in third place, but also pretty close. I think that's why Isa is more effective. She's single minded, while Dio is getting all his priorities and desires muddled.
 

Great work, Mena. This episode definitely is turning a corner in the story. Vivi, I also noticed that (as well as recognized the actress).

The hospital room scene was the best thing in this episode. El Diablo doesn't buy any of Hissadora's BS. His recognition that she isn't human is perfectly on the dinero; he is The Devil, of course. The scene played out perfectly with both of them hiding their poker hands.

But why would that nurse have a scalpel or anything similar on the tray?

It's interesting that nobody had any positive memories of Ximeana at her funeral, not even her mother. Most women in her situation would remember the child, the tween, etc., but that would have necessitated two new actresses to play them in the flashbacks.
 

Gracia Mena! I started to wonder when Chayo didn't jump at the chance to go to the cafeteria when the relief nurse stepped in. It became pretty clear who she was as she tended to her hijo. And also very clear that she knows who Isadora is. With a real mother's love, she could put be a tough adversary to Isadora's evil intent.
 

Urban- Yes. I actually recognized the actress last episode. She's pretty well known and was last in Llena de Amor. The camera lingered on her twice- once as she walked down the hallway and once in the cafeteria before the camera moved on to Isa and Caye. It made me raise in eyebrow, but then it became Crystal clear this episode.

I don't see why they couldn't find a teen actress for a one off happy flashback of Xi. They've used plenty of actors for these kind of flashbacks and pics in this tn so far. I think the bad memories and the recent bitchiness of Xi is still too fresh to forget, even for Gussy.
 

OOhh, I didn't notice the Chayo character in the previous episode. I just thought she was a sleepy night nurse and couldn't figure out why she wanted to stay on duty. Thanks for the reminder that we had already learned her name. Vivi, you have a mind like a steel trap for details. This is so-o-o "telenovela" to have a birth parent suddenly appear at a critical juncture. Also, the bludgeon that Dio was flashing around looked more like a paper opener or a steak knife from the dinner tray than a surgical instrument. I kept hoping he would really do it, but knowing that Isa has to hang in to the bitter end, I knew it wasn't meant to be.
 

I knew who Chayo was right away. She just had to show up eventually. I figured Alonso would go look for her, that is, if he avoided prison. The way that she and Isadora looked at each other confirmed it.
 

I think what Dio had were bandage cutting scissors. They were next to bandages on the tray table.
 

Mena, thanks very much for the great recap. I love your snark and especially chuckled over "Pogostick Yago" and "Ximena had every reason to be happy: looks, smarts and thigh high boots."

I was exhausted by the time the TN came on last night, so even though I watched it, I very much needed your recap for all the details and conversation that went right by me. Perhaps that's why I totally missed the significance of Chayo. Thanks very much, Vivi, for clueing me in. Especially in light of who Chayo is, tonight's episode should thus be very interesing!
 

Needless to say, "interesing" should have been "interesting." If I didn't have to deal with the "prove you're not a robot," I'd always Preview first, but... Oh well....

Vivi, as long as I'm writing again, I just want to second what lxv said about your amazing memory for the TN details. I've been in awe over and over again.
 

Mena - Thanks. Fine recap.

The cutest scene Xi had in the TN was when she and Camila were in sync sitting side by side on the couch castigating Gussie for her foolish Las Vegas marriage to Dio, but that's a bad memory for Gussie too. Gussie's silly, but I feel so sorry for her. Now she will cling to Dio even more.

Expecting great scenes between Chayo and Al. He's been aching for true uncondicional love from someone and it looks like finally, at 34, he'll get the mothering he's needed.

Chayo must have a tough spine to go from a poor house servant girl impregnated and having her baby snatched away by her ancient boss to become a nurse. Hope she can keep her wits with Hissadora.
 

When Isa told Daniel she hopes when he has a child he'll be able to see them before they die, he should have said "Maybe I could've seen my child before he died if Dionisio's hitman hadn't killed my pregnant wife first."

Alonso may be able to stay alive a little bit longer with Chayo on the scene watching over him.

Augustina still continues to be stuck on stupid. Sorry lady, but anytime you have a child that decides purposely to have an affair with your other child's husband, and you're more mad at the other child for taking up with a choffer, you are really really dumb, for real. Because sleeping with the choffer is much worse than sleeping with your sister's husband.

Dionisio could have come out and said Guess What Lady? I'm a Bad Guy and Augustina STILL wouldn't believe Dionisio was bad.


 

Before doing the post-mortem with Flaco and reading the recap and comments, I'd like to say welcome to Samantha Jean.

Nanette
 

Mena, thanks in advance for a recap that I can't wait to get back to after a couple dire errands. I did read the comments and am relieved that bit by bit hint by hint I was able to figure out who Chayo was. I know we don't like spoilers here but if something is mentioned even ever so subtly I don't think it would be considered a spoiler for those who recognized it to share it with the rest of us. My mind had already drawn an entirely different/false conclusion. I knew it was odd for the nurse to be sleeping on duty, wondered why the nurse who caught her supported her instead of reprimanding her. I assumed she was a bad nurse so when she was standing near the IV I thought she was going to inject something in it to kill the patient. Especially after this was later reinforced by Isa telling Dio that Alonso was not going to leave the hospital alive.
More later after I read the recap!!
 

Foxy I didn't get into that storyline for the reason you mention. Some viewers may prefer the story to play out on its own.
 

anon207, LOL! That is a great response to Isa's snippy fake sorrow with DAN!
 

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It's all speculation at this point, but since we were already told her name many episodes back (and if a name is mentioned you know it's going to be important later), it seemed pretty obvious to me.
 

Geeez, I am working on an iPad and it went wacko - deleting the second copy of the post above! I forgot one more comment to Anon 207 who is on a clever roll in comments today... I completely agree and luvv the comment that "Agustina is stuck on stupid"! I don't have much empathy for the character at this point besides being a parent who lost a child.
 

That is sympathy, not empathy as I have never faced a similar tragedy, thankfully!
 

Mena, thank you for refraining from speculation about Chayo. It made for a really good read. But commenters have been putting forth suppositions and wild guesses since this blog started. It's not at all the same as posting a spoiler. I assume everyone will play fair and NOT spoil, because it keeps a sharp edge on the anticipation. I don't even like it when people disclaim "not a spoiler" because it makes me wonder if they've seen the episode already and are just couching their foreknowledge in speculatory phrases. But when the drama is dropping clues left, right and center, it's fun to play the guessing game.

I was of the same mind as Foxy for a while, but the acting persuaded me otherwise. What I saw was a mother's devotion and defiance, not the wiles of a hench(wo)man. Can't wait til tonight.
 

"What I saw was a mother's devotion and defiance, not the wiles of a hench(wo)man."

Yep. As soon as they dropped Al on the operating table and said his name, tears sprang up in Chayo's eyes. Then she spent all night watching over him in his room. If that's not proof of a mother's love, then the writers really have something out of left field planned.
 

Thanks Mena. Loved the recap.

The Dio holding a sharp instrument to Isa’s throat would have been more effective if we saw a little blood trickle down her neck.

Niece: “Expecting great scenes between Chayo and Al. He's been aching for true uncondicional love from someone and it looks like finally, at 34, he'll get the mothering he's needed.

Chayo must have a tough spine to go from a poor house servant girl impregnated and having her baby snatched away by her ancient boss to become a nurse. Hope she can keep her wits with Hissadora.”---I agree that Al needs unconditional love and hope that Isa may have met her match in a mother tiger fighting for her stolen cub.
 

Thanks for a great recap, Mena! Aside from the laughs, I do appreciate reading the dialog summaries because I always miss a few bits. I had no idea that the exchange between Dan and his dad was that unpleasant, for example. I had thought it was more conciliatory, but I was going on tone rather than content.

Dan the Man, looking fine in Raybans? Ooof!

Dio also spied on Camila in her bedroom one night when he first moved into the MalQ after marrying Gussy. Dan caught him and warned Camila and pulled her curtains shut (for the one and only time).

Caye crossed a line in this episode in going to keep Isa company at the hospital. What he had done before – strolling around the ranch, chatting, even taking her to the cafeteria at the hospital – was bad enough, but at least somewhat okay for a husband to do. Deliberately going to console her when they would be together alone over his wife’s objections is not, no way, no how, okay. Roscio is right to be freaked out. I’m afraid she is going to get much worse than I think she deserves.

What’s the point of putting a neckbrace on a patient if they juggle his head around when they take it off and then roll him around like they did to Al? Sheesh.

I’m very glad to see Chayo show up. Alonso has been portrayed as a not entirely bad person who was really messed up by Isa. I am hoping he will be at least somewhat redeemed by the love of his real mom.

 

Thanks for getting this posted so early, I read it a while ago but just now watched it.

I'm glad Vivi put the Chayo/Alonso connection together. I wouldn't have gotten that. Do we think that Isa and Chayo recognized each other? I couldn't tell for sure, but it sort of looked like they did. Or at least Chayo did.

Cayatonto isn't even hiding his hots for Isa in front of Rocio. He must be really angry at her for flagrantly flaunting his 'support' for Isa.

The justice league better put their heads together and find the clues.
 

Thanks for the great recap Mena. For two nites I fell asleep near the end, so I'm especially appreciative of the recaps.

I missed when Chayo's name was first brought up, never caught the Chayo name and completely missed the nurse bit. I'm so glad you covered it.

I also agree with Juanita. Viv you are amazing with your memory for details. You never cease to amaze me.

I'm so enjoying all the detailed recaps that have been written and the most interesting comments.

Thanks again, Mena.

Ann-NYC
 

OK, I had t go back and look. The blunt instrument was a kelly clamp . Probably used for packing the gauze in his wound. And Vivi's comment made me go back to see Chayo in the OR, which scene I must have slept through the first time, except to note the manner in which Alonso was unceremoniously dumped face down on the operating table. In all my years of transferring patients, I never did that maneuver. And yes, Chayo's eyes and all that screen time were clues enough that she would be a player in forthcoming events. Since when do OR nurses do regular floor nursing, or vice versa?
 

LOL Cathyx! Cayatonto. :) I will call him that from now on. I also thought it was bad form of him to go off to "comfort" this woman, by himself, against his wife's wishes. It's not like she's some old family friend or relative.

Carolina- Yeah, Dan has not been pulling his punches when it comes to his newly inherited blood relatives. His first reaction about Xi's fate was almost funny-- "Well, no one deserves to burn to death." There is certainly no call of the blood or love lost there.
 

The avances show Isa and Chayo talking and Chayo saying So you want me to kill your son? That would tell me that Isa doesn't recognize Chayo.
 

Anita has also been capturing all this stuff in her Shine the Light post. She notes Rosario's (Chayo's) name there from Al's conversation with Salomon. So no need to rely on my memory for clues. I do sometimes get my facts wrong from memory. :)
 

Vivi, I can't take credit for Cayantonto. Paquita named him that.
 

Thanks for the Chayo reminder. I was wondering why the nurse got to have a name, and have it repeated several times so we'd be sure to get it. Where can I find the Shine the light page?

Poor Ximena. Her soul is so screwed.

Kelly
 

Alonso is bad, but he's not evil.

Ximena, IMO, was evil because she had no qualms about having her sister killed so she could take her sister's wealth. And while this plan didn't involve harming her brother Daniel, she would have signed on to get rid of him too. She had no problems hanging her sales clerk friend out to dry, embezzling from her sister or sleeping with her sister's husband, and if Dio had waved some money in front of her, she would've slept with him too. During the kidnapping ordeal, she wasn't worried about Camila being hurt, she was worried about getting caught. The only time Ximena showed concern for others was when she caught Dio & Isa locking lips, but she kept quiet so her crimes wouldn't be brought to light.

Alonso didn't want Camila to get hurt either of the times Isa put a hit out on Camila, although he was down for it if it got him out of trouble. That's why I say Alonso is bad, but not evil.

Agustina likes living in fantasy world. One of the reasons IMO she detests FX so much is because he pops her bubble and brings her back to reality and reality is not a place she wants to be. I wonder if now that Ximena is gone, her crimes in Monterrey will come to light?

Agustina & Camila don't know that Ximena was on the run from the law for theft and that's why she came to the ranch. Agustina doesn't know that Ximena embezzled a very large sum of money from Camila. When Ximena's involvement with Bruno is brought to light, Agustina will probably excuse the phone calls/texts between the two as them being friends from way back, not as kidnapping accomplices (even though Ximena was the one who sent Camila to the cabin).

Naturally, Agustina will not want to believe her daughter was capable of such bad things; yet, Agustina would believe the claims against Ximena quicker than she would believe the claims against Dionisio.

I didn't believe the interaction b/w Daniel & FX over Ximena to be confrontational; Daniel simply stated:

a) he's surprised FX is crying so much over Ximena when he abandoned both he and Ximena as small children;

b) he's glad FX had "happy times" when Ximena before she died so maybe FX's conscience can be a little cleaner

c) he's not going on the warpath over Ximena's death, but he will seek justice

d) He barely knew the girl, and there were no brother/sister feelings there.

Also, he can stand around me wearing Ray Bans all he likes. That is all.




 

They've already mentioned getting Bruno's phone records. But I think that they will only implicate Ximena, not Isa. I hope Al lives long enough to do some good.
 

Anon207: I'm a little confused about Xi. I thought she told Al she didn't want anyone getting killed re: the kidnapping. So she knew Isa wanted Cam dead? Was she just saying that to Al? Because if she was aware that the goal was to kill Cam, then she deserved her fiery death.
 

Kelly- Here is Anita's Shine the Light post: http://caraycaray.blogspot.com/2012/10/amor-bravio-extra-operation-shine-light.html

 

Thanks, Mena--It'll be 10 pm before I get through all the comments, so I'll have to start now and risk being a duppie.

Bill C--Vivi is right in giving you all the men who might have been at the Hostel, but I also think it was Mariano coming to see Pablo.

Mena--I'm glad you got all the action straight. From the moment Dan came into Camila's room to tell her about Xi, I only had eyes for Dan. Be still my heart when I saw the Chilean Man in Black at the velorio tenderly ministering to Camila--and actually taking her in his arms in full view of everyone in the room--too bad Dio wasn't there then, bwaaahhaaa. But, I nearly climbed through the screen to touch that gorgeous hunk with the dark glasses on. Has there *ever* been a more galan-looking galan? Uff.
 

Keep this in mind as well: Sometimes nasty or difficult people are virtually canonized by their survivors after their deaths.

Augustina had no illusions about Ximeana in the beginning of the story. She told her off in the opening episode when she was nasty to Camila about her upcoming wedding. She gave her well-deserved hell over her behavior at Luis' funeral. She did the same when Ximeana didn't bother coming to the ranch for three years thereafter, including Camila's wedding to Alonso. Now that Ximeana is dead she isn't a bad girl.

I've seen that play out in life.

Bruno's phone records could implicate Hissadora, as she was the last person to call him from La Malquerida. Ximeana was nowhere near the hacienda at the time of that call and very likely had not been seen for more than an hour.
 

Hey, Vivi--I thought Chayo was taking an inordinate amount of interest in Al. I guessed.

Tell, me, though, what was the last tn we saw her in? She looks soooo familiar. I've been running through possible cast lists and cannot zero in on her. Could it have been MEPS at the sanitorium or was it Mi Peccado or AdeP (which I didn't watch).
 

Anon207, I also thought that Xi was okay with kidnapping Camila, but not okay with killing her. And Al wasn't okay with any of it, but he had a gun to his head,literally. I also just watched the convo between Dan and his dad again, and I think it's pretty neutral. As Vivi said, he doesn't pull any punches and he says what he thinks, but he doesn't get worked up about it. I think he just doesn't want to get involved with that loser, and who could blame him.

cathyx, Isa called Bruno directly at least once. She must have asked him to address her as 'Alonso' because that's what he did so that Camila would hear that. I was a bit confused by that because why would she bother with covering her tracks with Cam if she was planning to kill her. Also, Xi texted him to call the landline at the house and then he did that and everyone witnessed his conversation with Dan. The timing of the calls would implicate him and Xi and Isa, I think.

Actually, I am confused by a number of details of the kidnapping, but I don't know that any of it will matter that much. The evidence is piling up against Isa. They still need something that'll stick to Dio since he wasn't involved in the kidnapping.
 

UA--That was the remains of a meal tray, so I think it was just a metal knife. However, when he put it up to Isa's neck, it looked sharper than the run-of-the mill knives that come with hospital food trays.
 

Anita- Llena de Amor was her last Televisa tn...where she played the head maid, who years before had been impregnated by the patron, and her daughter was then raised as a member of the rich family, not knowing her nana was he mama. Sound familiar?...

Tina Romero (Chayo) also does Telemundo tns, and her last tn before this one was Maid in Manhattan on Telemundo.

She was also in Mi Pecado on Televisa.

 

Vivi--Bandage cutting scissors are often blunt on the ends. This was definitely a knife.

You can tell, this comment reading is going very slowly.
 

Vivi--Since I didn't see the other ones, it had to be Mi Peccado where I saw her. She was one of the help in the kitchen, I think. The mind is a funny thing. The face was immediately familiar--the where from was a complete blank.
 

I do feel sorry for Aggie losing her child. Even though Xi turned out to be a bad person, as a parent you remember when they were little and how much you care for them and love them as you raise them. It would be horrible to lose a child.

If Amanda were smart, she'd make a run for it while Dion is in the hospital.
 

Mena thanks for recap and recappers thanks for noting Chayo; I did pick up that she would be an important character based on the close-ups since my Spanish is here and there.

Cathyx - ITA that Cayantonto must be very angry at his wife to play the "comforter" role against Rocio's desires.

Vivi - Though the occasion was sad (Xi's funeral), Dan's comment made me LOL!

Kelly - Your comment about Xi's soul being screwed was another LOL moment for me.


 

Cathyx- I feel sorry for her too. She can be a shrill idiot sometimes, but she's done nothing to deserve such a great loss.

When Isa made the one call to Bruno that we did see, she did it from Camila's phone in her cabin. It wasn't long after everyone had all been together in the study, so I don't think anyone could say that Xi was not in the hacienda when the call was made. I'm pretty sure she never told any of them that she was going out. As far as they know, she was hiding/hanging out somewhere in the hacienda. There is nothing that links Isa to the kidnapping or the murder of Xi. Only if they can find the suv Isa used for the crime and can link it to her. We still don't know where she got it from.
 

Great point, Cathyx. With El Diablo in the hospital now would be the best time for Amanda to flee. However, she most likely won't because Natalia will set up the roadblock of insisting that she tell her The Whole Truth first, which we know she won't.

I also expect that Natalia will visit El Diablo in the hospital before he's released.
 

Vivi, you're right. I forgot that she went to Cam's cabin to make that call. There is the SUV which would surely have incriminating damage.

There is also the recording of the conversation she had with Alonso in that hotel room. The recording that he emailed to himself. Someone needs to get ahold of his laptop and take a look at his emails, and I think Dan is the Man for that job!
 

Carolina- Also about the covering of tracks...even if Isa had succeeded in killing Camila, there was that proof of life call where Camila implicated Alonso because she had heard her kidnapper referring to his boss as Alonso. That worked perfectly for Isa's plans.
 

Carolina--You got the Xi/kidnapping plot and the Al/ditto accurately, details included. We probably do need to remember the who and the when of the phone calls because that is all we have to implicate Isa. Dio and Isa can only play 'he said' 'she said'.

I see there were others noticing the Ray-Ban-Man.
 

Vivi--Ah ha, you are sooo right--I forgot from where Isa made the call to Bruno and whose phone she used. Xi's absence wasn't noted until after the phone call came through. Hissy excused her self to go get some air...in order to *make* the phone call.
 

Isa sure knows how to cover her tracks. I wish they would look into the literal tracks that the SUV left at the crime scene. But I suppose that Al's car was too badly burned to know that another vehicle was involved. They probably think it was suicide or an accident that he went over the cliff.
Someone mentioned that maybe the purse got thrown with Al out of the car as it went down. I would love it if Dan went to the crime scene, walked around and found the purse in some shrubs.
 

Xi's absence--or was it later they noted her absence.
 

Vivi, ITA. I think Isa took Dio's advice after the de-tongue-ing of Leonicio, when he told he that he never gets his hands dirty.

She set up the kidnapping so that she would be very well protected and Xi and Al would take the fall for everything. There is enough evidence against her, however. We need the good guys to get going and uncover it.
 

Anita: "Has there *ever* been a more galan-looking galan?"--to my way of thinking. YES. Fernando Colunga!

When I saw how upset the nurse was when they brought Al in, I thought she might have been someone who crossed paths with him and had a crush. Then when I saw her in the hospital room, I thought, maybe a nice woman for Al to love. But immediately paid better attention to her and realized she was too old. Then it hit me who she might be. I'm actually rather proud of myself for catching that. I'm usually so clueless about plots, etc. (as you can tell by it taking me a bit to realize she was too old.)
 

If only Leoncio would learn how to write or sign. Then he could tell them that Isa did it.
 

Anita- Xi's absence was noted between Al's call to Dan on his cell phone (promted by Xi), and Bruno's call to the hacienda phone to Dan (also prompted by Xi). But then she came back before that second call. After Dan left, everyone scattered-- the scoobies to chat with Gussy; Isa and Xi to plan the next move; then Isa and Dio in Cami's cabin after she called Bruno with the REAL plan. No one noticed when Xi left the hacienda. When they all got the call about Cami being found and scattered for the hospital, no one gave her whereabouts a second thought.
 

"I see there were others noticing the Ray-Ban-Man."

Like every woman with a pulse. :-)
 

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First I noticed how damn good Dan looks in black at the wake. Yum! Then I noticed how damn fine he looked in black AND those sunglasses at the funeral. Double yum! His coloring and build reminds of of FC, who also looks very good in black and in sunglasses. But since CdlF is my age, I'm going to give him the win on this one. Uff!


 

I prefer Dan sunglass-less. He has such lovely eyes, I want to see them.

How long will it take until Aggie catches on to Dion's Camila obsession. I will excuse her for now because she's been preoccupied with Ximena's death and all, but sooner or later she has to think it a bit odd. I was grossed out when he was thinking to himself that he only thinks of her when he is with anyone else. So you know that's how he was able to perform with Aggie when he had to sleep with her.
I know, double yuck.
 

cathyx,

"Someone mentioned that maybe the purse got thrown with Al out of the car as it went down. I would love it if Dan went to the crime scene, walked around and found the purse in some shrubs."

That was me and I would love that outcome, too! I didn't know anyone had even read that post I made at the end of the other episode's discussion. I still think that too much was made of those phone records, the steps Al took to get them, and their exact location at the time of the crash for them to be simply carbonized along with the rest of the SUV.
 

I also liked Camila's simple outfits for the wake and the funeral-- fitted jackets (not covering her bum!) over fitted black pants. I especially liked the jacket at the wake which seemed to have lace across the waist.
 

In the morning, before I go to the new recap, I always read the new comments from the previous recap if there are any. I remember you made more great observations in that comment than that one. I'll go back and reread it.
 

Caroline, I didn't watch the show so I didn't notice the ambulance guy.

Aggie does look a lot like Edith Bunker, but maybe more stylish. I think Aggie has more money than Edith did.

And they did show the candle left burning on the haybale. One would think that was important too.
 

Caroline- I meant to answer. Yes. It's the same curly haired EMT who collected Dan, when he was hurt, and Dion, who then was at the scene of the car accident. He might have even been the one who collected Cami after the bull goring incident, but I wasn't paying attention that time as Dan was crying his eyes out and it's hard for me to concentrate when he's taking up the screen. :)
 

Thanks to both of you. I am on the west coast, so I will always be lagging behind. I am glad to know that folks do read old posts, and I'll keep adding them even if they're late.

I am so very happy to have found this blog and I hope no one minds that I have jumped in with both feet. You all seem to be such a great group.
 

cathyx, Aggie definitely has more money and style than Edith, but they both roll their eyes and say their husbands' name the same way. I think Edith was smarter, too, or at least had fewer illusions about Archie.

Vivi, I am telling you that ambulance dude is the same one every time. I should go back and see if he collected Luis, too. ;-)

 

Carolina- LOL! If I were that EMT, I would start to think this Camila chick is bad luck. First I find her gored by a bull in the town bullring. Then I find her crying over her boyfriend and friend who have been shot in front of the hostel in town. Then I come out to her ranch and find that the guy who rescued her, because she was kidnapped and left to be killed by bulls, has been trampled by bulls. Then I find her sister burned to death and her husband thrown from a car accident on the road to town.
 

He probably calls her 'Senora Job Security'.
 

Carolina--I always check the comments from the day before. There are always some gems. OTOH, sometimes it's just me getting there late.... So, comment away, there will always be someone to read it evenif you are last. We can always answer questions the next day, too.

And yes, Vivi, it was the same ambulance guy picking up Cam & Dio.
 

Carolina--LOL--Senora Job Security...
 

Carolina- LOL!!!!
 

Probably the ONLY reason why he wouldn't have been Luis' EMT is because they weren't in Metepec/Aculco at the time. ;-)

The MQ bunch is a walking crime wave for Metepec/Aculco.
 

Nanette--FC is in a class by himself: TBLMOE. He is aging gracefully, now playing a father in the new comedy Porque.

But CdF has some je ne sais quois about how he interacts with his leading lady, or at least this leading lady. He's so natural in the little touches, as is Silvia--but we've seen this about her, but we don't know Cristian that well.

And Vivi, I may be twice your age but I know one when I see one and appreciate him exactly the same way you do.
 

If this ambulance guy is the same one who rescued Cam and Luis, then I would say Cam and the ambulance guy were meant to be together, not Cam and Dan.
 

CdlF has done a great job of acting all around in this role.

I saw him on Dancing With the Stars a few years ago and was not impressed. I don't think he came off very well at all on that show.

Do people here know that there were rumors of him and Sylvia having a fling during filming of AB? He's married and she's got a bf. I think rumors most likely were just rumors, or they could have been made up or planted to stir up interest and publicity. Or they could have started to explain why he is acting this role so well because I don't think he has ever been this convincing before. Or maybe it is true that they really did have a little something going on. Their chemistry is undeniable.

 

Carolina- I'm laughing too. We should all have such good luck in our careers.

I don't think that Ximena was evil really. She did draw the line at murder after all, and she said something to Dio about not hurting her mother when she caught him kissing Hissadora. Not that she did anything else about it but still, there was potential for redemption waaaay down deep in the bottom dregs of her heart. Jail, sure. But burning to death is a little extreme.

I know FC is beloved here, but I'm giving it to CdlF. I thought he looked a little evil in those aviator glasses but I'd still let him seduce me even if her were evil. ("Do you want..." "YES!")

Kelly
 

Maybe Silvia has made him rise up to her level somewhat. I think a good acting partner can do that.

We had a discussion early on about CdlF's acting ability and I wanted to wait until his character had more of an assertive position before I made a call. It may still be too early, he's just come out as Dan a couple of episodes ago, but I think he's not bad. I like it when he contradicts the bad guys and acts incredulously at what they say. He doesn't waver and puts it out there. But he's no Jorge Salinas. But few actors are. I'll still wait and perhaps change my mind as we get into the meat of this TN, as we all agree it has turned the corner and we are getting down and dirty with the plot now.
 

cathyx, LOL!

Ok, I had to check. It doesn't show Cam and Luis being picked up by the ambulance and I am relieved to say that the ambulance crew in Chile that picked up Muriam looked like different people, but they don't show the guy clearly enough to be 100% sure.
 

If you see what a dufus CdlF is when he isn't acting, you will see what it must take for him to be playing this role. Just sayin'.

Sorry if I burst anyone's bubbles. He is gorgeous as all heck and I love him in this role, but he was really an odd duck on DWTS.
 

Caroline, I watched that season of DWTS and I didn't notice him on the show. It wasn't until CdlF was in this TN that I read that he was on the show. So I looked it up and sure enough, I watched that season and had no idea he was on it. That's because Mario Lopez was on that season and Mario was so good, that I only cared if Mario won. Which he didn't, he got totally robbed of the title, not that I'm still fuming about that.
 

When it comes to acting talent nobody compares to Jorge Salinas!
 

Silvia and Jorge were great together in the comedy movie Labios Rojos as a married couple. I would like to see the two of them together in a really good tn.

The tabloids create rumors about every tn acting couple if they happen to have good chemistry. SN has good chemistry with all her leading men.
 

Vivi: "SN has good chemistry with all her leading men." Amen to that. I think she has chemistry with everyone she acts with--male and female. That's rare. I always felt that way about Morgan Freeman. There's just something about them.
 

I'm also one of those who checks the previous recap;s comments for last minute entries before reading the current one. I don't want to miss one juicy bit of discussion.

And many thanks to the person who realized you don't have to use the numbers when entering the word verification.
 

Carolina--Please don't sell CdF short on the basis of DWTS. Check out his very entertaining, informative and charming interview with a Chilean show host. It's in several parts on YouTube (and please don't ask me to give you a link because I screw it up). If you search under Cristian De La Fuente2, eventually you can find part 1. It was posted by Edwin Castillo.

One of the first things he says is that he can revert back to his native Chilean accent.


 

I've never seen SN before AB, but I think she has been just fantastic and it's entirely pausible that she has elevated CdlF's acting.

cathyx, Mario Lopez was on DWTS Season 3 and CdlF was on Season 6, which Kristi Yamaguchi won and Jason, some NFL player, took second. Cristian got injured and was a distant yet respectable third. Some comments about him from a DWTS forum I hang out on occasion:

I don't like him. I don't know why. There's something here that's rubbing me the wrong way. Maybe it's all the 'ain't I pretty?' side glances at the camera. It could be the feeling that he only showed up to get an American career on some level of 'established'. Or it's that smile. It could definitely be that smile, because it feels like he painted it on. News flash, not-so-pretty boy: you're not fun. We've had fun. You aren't it.

His overly goofy behavior makes the "latin heartthrob" label unbelievable.

Well, his hotness flew right out the window as soon as he opened his mouth. Ick, I don't like. I felt bad for how harsh the judges were on him, though. Haven't we learned already that not all Latinos(as) are great dancers?

 

Then no wonder I missed him, lol. I didn't watch season.
 

Anita, I have seen a few clips on youtube of him and I'd say they are a mixed bag. There is one from a few years ago with his daughter that is adorable and others where he is on talk shows and mugging for the camera like he did on DWTS.

I'll just say this. He is gorgeous and wonderful on AB and I am enjoying his performance immensely. I don't really care about anything else. :)
 

That should be season 6.
 

His dances are all on youtube if you are interested and most of them include the parts where they show him being himself before and after the dance as well. Search for Cristian, Cheryl (his partner), and DWTS and they should pop right up.
 

Good enough, Carolina. Welcome to the We Love Silvia club, and by extension, anyone she pairs with on screen!!!
 

Maybe Silvia is 'Senora Job Security' for Cristian, too. :)
 

...but boo on the DWTS forum--CdF had long ago established his American career, albeit modestly as guest on several popular American series, going back to CSI Miami in the 1st & 2nd season (and that would be 2002) and Family Law (that would be 2000).
 

Ay yi yi--Carolina you slay me!
 

I can't watch DWTS because of the ridiculously homogenized music. Doing the tango to something by the Pussycat Dolls really is lame. At least on the Televisa dance competition shows they're not afraid of the real sound of anything they dance to.
 

The music is awful, agreed. Some is more awful and some less. In general, I am not a fan of pop music but I do like the dancing. And I like how, unlike most reality shows, they don't focus on nasty, negative behavior. For the most part, the 'stars' act like adults and are always good sports and nice to each other. They seem to become friends and have a great time.

I saw a few bits of Mire Quien Bailar and it did not appeal, but I am not sure why. I didn't think the dancing was as good.

Anita, I think it's no secret that a lot of the 'stars' (some are not actually what anyone would call stars) go on DWTS to bolster their name recognition and careers and there is no shame in that. The problem with CdlF is that it seemed blatant, like that was the only reason he was there and he didn't even try to hide it, though his competitiveness came out later, as it usually does, and he started to really work on his dancing. He made a lot of progress by the end.

BTW, his English is excellent.