Caray, Caray!

Hi All! I wanted to get this posted ASAP for all to swoon and comment. I have a nasty little cold which is challenging my little pea brain. I am not positive about all the bull stuff, but I think I got the main idea. I will re-read this after I feel better in case I left in some spelling goofs etc.
 

Mena- What an amazing job you did despite having a nasty cold. Thank you so much for making such a huge effort for us. This was indeed the episode many of us have been waiting for. Love the title. :)

I loved all the kisses between Dan and Cam, as well as the reconciliation with the amigos. I thought it was cute that Dan jokingly got jealous about the Cam-Rafa hug, and then told the amigos to look away as he and Cam smooched some more. Ahh, love. I also enjoyed Luzma telling Pablo how hadsome he looked and giving him some smooches.

All this love can only mean one thing-- something really bad is about to happen. And it looks like Bruno, Isa and Xi will be behind it.

One clarification-- the phone chip Al got was from Julian's phone. Remember, Dio had D'Andres recover the phone after Julian was killed, and D'Andres found it in Leo's room. Al gave the cell phone store guy the chip and Dio's phone number.
 

Mena, this is a terrific recap! There's no sign whatsoever that you wrote it while under the weather. I've got an appointment to get to, so I won't say more now, but I just wanted to say THANK YOU and assure you that the recap is great! (And I really appreciated the info about pardoning the bull--I knew nothing whatsoever about that.)
 

Mena - thanks so much for your recap. I hope you recover from your cold quickly.

Vivi - you said what most of us know. "All this love can only mean one thing-- something really bad is about to happen."

And the writers foreshadowed what will break-up Cam and Dan with Teresa meeting up w/Abe's lackey, who knows Dan was railroaded. I think Miriam will be alive (it's a guess) though probably in a coma and by now the baby should be out of the womb.

I'm hoping Luzma and Pablo won't be messed with anymore but wonder what could happen? The only thing I can think of is the identity of Pablo's real dad comes to light. But he's handled most of the crisis he has faced well. My bet is that he'll have to help his parents, who are foolish, through this problem.
 

Thanks Mena, yes FINALLY! At least they didn't make us wait until the gran finale.

You description of Dion and Aggie at the beginning was hilarious.

My cc's kept writing Alonso instead of Leonsio, they obviously don't watch the show.

So Nat has decided all by her very self to be the double agent I was hoping she would. Good girl. We all know that her family would never let her do it if they knew.

Cayetano is turning into quite a dog. (Although I can't really blame him being married to that witch, not that that excuses him)

Gotta go, be back later for more excitement.
 

Great work, Mena. I have to leave in a few minutes so I will say more later.

The chain of evidence has been broken. If this were happening in the US Alonssso has invalidated the evidence from the SIM card by not turning it into the police (or having them recover it in the first place).
 

Thanks Viv for a detail that flew over me. It makes more sense now because I was wondering why Dio did not have his phone with him and wasn't sure about why he gave the phone guy both names and numbers....

Also, did you get the name Choli? I almost called her Chonie, but that is short for undergarments to me(i.e. calcones).

This had some good vocab in it - from bull fighting to the police station in Chile.
 

Mena- I didn't pay close attention when Piedad said her name, but Choli sounds right to me. Boy will she really be ticked off when she learns that Leoncio killed BOTH her sons. Granted, it doesn't seem that criminal Julian was as beloved as good guy Fidencio, but it's going to still hurt to know her twin sons were killed by the same person, and because of the same person (Piedad). You would think she'd at least want to know about her granddaughter though.
 

I was VERY confused by the discussion between Piedad and Choli. Not only did the subtitles say that Piedad's brother "Alonso" killed her husband-to-be, but so seemingly did Choli. I went back and watched the scene again, and only by KNOWING that she was saying "Leonicio" could I manage to convince myself that that was what she said. I would never have thought that the two names would sound so similar.
 

Great recap, Mena. Feel better soon.

Flaco was just saying yesterday that he thought Leo would be able to learn to read and write in prison.

Pablo/Luz scene—cute.

Thought Xi was having second thoughts about Al (she was twisting her ring). I see it was from her not being totally on board re: Cam.

Good on Al for stealing the SIM card.

Cam and Dan together again!!!!!

Teresa is getting closer to the truth that Miriam is alive.

Looking forward to Iago’s downfall.

Vivi: I hope that her grief over her sons (and she’s bound to find out about Julian) will not keep her from trying to connect with her granddaughter.

Loved all the Cam/Dan/Scooby Gang scenes. In fact, I kept the recording so I can watch them again.

Nanette
 

I am glad that the phone chip thing was cleared up by Mena and Vivi. I didn't get what was happening. I thought it was a SD card with pictures or something with Dion's phone but it didn't make sense because I couldn't remember what pictures he had. I really hope Al is successful in getting that phone info to the goodguys.

Do the goodguys know that Bruno works for Dion?
 

CathyX, Yes, Viv figured out that only Bruno had seen Aaron at her house, told Dio he recognized him in a phonto and that is how Dio knew Aaron fake Daniel was staying there.

Also, I am glad you mentioned it... when I saw Al remove the SIM card, I thought it looked pretty big for a SIM card and more like the memory chip from a camera. I chalked the weird size up to the phone being an older version.

 

Mena, so then if the goodguys know that Bruno was bugging the place, they must figure that Dion told him to do it. And hopefully they will tell Camila this too.
 

Yeah, that was quite an old cell phone Julian had. Not surprised that the SIM card was large. I just switched from one smart phone that I've only had for a year, to another, and was suprised by how much smaller the SIM card was in the new phone.
 

I looked up when the missing Friday episode will air on the west coast, and my tv guide says Sunday morning at 2:00am. It shows that the telethon goes all Friday night, through Saturday until Saturday night.
 

Cathyx- Wow! 2:00 am on Sunday (Saturday night). That sucks! I hope you West Coast people all have dvrs or vcrs so that you can record it.
 

Is it anyone else puzzled by Leoncio's bandages? Even when he was lying in a hospital bed it didn't make sense to have bandages covering more than three-quarters of his head for a wound inside his mouth. But now? Has he been on an IV all this time?
 

Cough, cough, blehhh...
A comment that I just wanted to add. Cayetano acts like such a pinhead. He is cranky, controlling and has a roving eye. I haven't seen much to make him a likeable character except he has nice eyes, maybe. Same with Rocio.
 

Cathyx, The fact that the gumshoe gang knows Bruno works for Dio is why Dio got realllly mad that Bruno was caught. He said he did not want to be linked to Bruno and would say that Bruno is just stalking Viv and not working for him.
 

WoooWooo Mena! Yep, I got to swoon and now I get to comment. Great recap. Feel better, amiga (I'm in the same boat you are).

Quien es el mas guapo del mundo???? Camila certainly knows and me thinks Silvia N. knows, too. Man, Daniel could hardly talk with all the kissies she was giving him. A lot of what went on in Team Scooby Doo's pad just had to be ad-libbed--it just sounded so natural.

So Xi had second thoughts on what Isa has planned for Cam. She traded her half-sister's life (?) or at least something terrible happening to her in return for staying out of prison for a couple of years. She must have thought about all the shopping she wouldn't be able to do from behind bars. No punishment is good enough for her in my book.

All this plotting and planning and double-crossing and spying and changing alliances is kinda leaving poor FX completely out of the picture. Boy is he going to feel a tad engañado when he finds out who his real son is. I wonder if Isa will give him any of the share of money that she expects. (I use the term loosely, since all Viewerville knows she ain't ending up with the ranch--although at the end she might have "bought" the ranch.) Wouldn't it be funny if FX and Caperucita Roja end up back together? Two superfluous souls in the larger scheme of things.

Vivi--I missed completely whose phone that was. It makes sense that it would have been Julian's. But I thought I heard Al say to the Radioshack man that it was Dio's and to look for calls between him and a Julian. Maybe Al didn't know either, but is sure there will be some conversation between Dio and Julian. Although, what does that prove? Dio has admitted Julian worked for him. Only if the source on certain dates of the calls will it do him any good (Chile and Aculco).

Someone asked a couple of episodes ago if Dio was sincere about his feelings towards Natalia. I think we got a little hint last night. He's using the same flattery techniques he used on Gussie when seducing her. I think the man is incapable of real love or affection and that Amanda and baby Natalia represented a stable family, a front, so to speak, behind which he could carry on his nefarious schemes. They were necessary property. For her to have left HIM, was betrayal of the highest order (he probably neglected her the way he neglected Gussy after landing her). He lives for schemes, so this one of getting close to Natalia and winning her over is to hurt Amanda more than anything else. He will probably get his jollies out of being the one to tell Natalia who he really is. Poor Natty, spying on the father she thought was dead--where does that put her loyalties.

I loved the ending of the Scooby Doo love fest when Daniel says about his legal problems, the difference between now and then is that when I was in prison, I was alone, but now I have friends.

Camila probably reflected on what she was doing to Natalia, not letting her come back to work at La Malquerida, is exactly what Dan did to her--food for thought.

I think part of Dan's plan was to have Oswaldo call Camila. It would be the only way for him to be sure that she did or did not want to be with him again. He said as much toward the end of their conversation when he said it hurt him more to stay and be around her, but not WITH her.

You can tell I'm under the weather, I've been wordier than usual.
Anita
 

Piedad called the lady "Doña Chole." Chole is a diminutive of "Soledad."
 

Thanks a mil for such an enjoyable recap. I was so happy that Camila realized that her pride was about to cost her the love of her life. Since we're only half way through the novela, we are all aware that there's trouble brewing ahead. My prediction is that their love for each other won't change but similar to destilando amor, something will cause physical distance to seperate them for a while. For example Daniel could end up back in prison in Chile before he is finally exonerated. Another reason I believe that he will be back in Chile is because I believe that Miriam did not survive the come. I believe that Daniel believes that she did not survive. But for closure he will want proof such as visiting the graves of both Miriam and his baby, or at least seeing death certificates. Although my predictions have proved false 99 out of 100 times, I can't forsee any logical reason for Miriam, who really is an innocent victim to end up getting such a raw deal as losing the man she truly loved.

Question: Will someone explain the reason why the Agent in Chile told Teresa she couldn't talk to Miriam's brother the cop (I'm blocking on his name). I didn't understand any of that dialogue.
Thanks.
 

Chole! Thanks Anon 3:03.
 

The Chile brother's name is Abraham. I didn't catch much of the dialogue either but it seemed like something was being hidden. Or the cop-in-charge just didn't trust Teresa's reasons for being there.

I'm just glad Natalia isn't the yellow-frosted cupcake she seemed. Just hope she doesn't get into too much trouble here, which she probably will.

Kelly
 

Foxy--I didn't catch all the Chile convo either, but I gathered that Abe is no longer available because: he's either retired, not working there any more or was assigned to another location, far, far away. Plot device to keep Viewerville on the edge a little longer.
 

Anita- Al knew Dio had Julian's phone. In fact, Dio had originally asked Al to find that phone, and Al hung about the police station after the discovery of Julian's body to see if he could hear anything about what they found with the body. I'm pretty sure he knows that phone is not Dio's because Dio has a slick, black modern cell phone. He asked the guy at the cell phone store to find calls between the person to whom this card belongs, named Julian Hernandez, and this person at this phone number (he writes Dio's cell phone number down, which he would know-- he wouldn't know Julian's #), whose name is Dionisio Ferrer.
 

Plus, Dion would have his phone with him, not in a drawer.

It seemed to me that the police guy was just being evasive as to Teresa not being able to talk to Abraham. I kept waiting for him to say where he was, i.e. transferred, on long vacation, retired, ill, but he never did.
 

Muchas gracias for that fabulous recap, Mena! I hope you're feeling better soon. As someone else said, no signs in your recap that you're fighting a bad cold!

Well, so glad that the war is over between Camila and Daniel. A great scene all around at the Scooby Doo residence.
 

Mena- Thanks. Hope you feel better real soon. “... while Daniel is rearranging his bandages for viewerville to appreciate” – lol

So one day Al is on the verge of a nervous breakdown. The next day he's cool and calm, stealing the phone chip.

Love Ximena’s fuschia dress. I guess she was showing off her bruises as part of the set-up against Al?

The most horrible literacy PSA I've ever seen. So sordido is going to learn to read and write to get even. I pity his tutor.
 

Abraham is too young to retire. However, I suspect that the cop Teresa talked to thinks that Abraham abused his authority in having Daniel arrested.

Remember also that we never saw a funeral for Miriam or even a doctor declaring her dead. We can't be sure of her condition until Teresa finds out what happened and talks to doctors in that hospital.

Does anyone remember how much time has passed since Miriam was shot? She was 6-8 weeks pregnant in that episode.
 

The cop had been Abe's deputy. He recognized the name DDA, that Ter gave him. I don't believe he thinks Abe abused his authority by having Dan arrested--there weren't any other good suspects and Dante was out of town at the time--but probably does think he abused his authority by having Dan thrown into prison without any hope of a trial.

I wonder who took the rap for the prison break. I don't think Abe was in charge of the prison system. Does anyone know the connection there?

UA--I think we tried to do a timeline on how long Dan has been away from Miriam and Chile. Vivi or Anon207 would probably know best. I guess I'd better add that to our Operation Shine the Light.

BTW--I have found it nigh impossible to detail the changing alliances without explaining the whole frickin' story to no good end, so we'll just have to go with the flow.

I will add the list of songs that Vivi furnished.
 

I think we got a clue about the timeline when Al asked the cell phone store guy to look at calls going back 6-7 months. So that's likely when Julian was in Chile. That would put Miriam at the end of her pregnancy if she's alive (coma?) and if she went to term.
 

What do you all think of Dan falling in love with Cami so quickly after the loss of Miriam? In my mind, when you find love, you find love, and you should hang on to it. It doesn't diminish the love you felt for the last person. But I know others might feel it was too soon.
 

Vivi: I'm trying to get the timeline straight in my head. How long between the time that Dan escaped and he turned up in town?
 

Under the heading of All Things Considered, I think Daniel needed a refuge: Between the time he was in the prison and then on the run always looking over his shoulder, that must have felt like an eternity. Some people come out of experiences like that looking like they've aged 10 years.

However, he will need a death certificate from Chile before marrying Camila and I think Teresa will have to investigate that.
 

Vivi is right on the six -month timing; infact when Camila received her divorce she made a point of saying it has been six month since .... the police officer was Abraham Farcas adjudent -- he was the one that conducted the investigation on Daniel when Miriam was shot. Basically, Theresa went first to the courthouse to find Daniel's arrest file but there was none and then when she asked to see AF; the assistant told her that he requested a leave of absence from his job. He wasn't trying to evade her questions but was somewhat perplexed to hear the mention of Daniel -- ...

Myo-
 

Myo--That's exactly how it happened. Thank you for putting all the characters in the right place.
 

Thank you, Mena. A great recap and when you weren't feeling well. Our recapperss are so very dedicated and wonderful to us.

All I can say is that when Camila gets over her anger, she is something. How wonderfully loving to all, including her "guapo" Daniel! So cute, so natural, so long awaited by us fans, who got our money's worth last night.

I believe that Dionisio cannot love, only control. But I think he may intend to use Natalia as well, to get back at Amanda and who knows what else. She thinks she can be a double-agent but she's with the nasty double-crosser of all time. He and Isadora are supreme villains.
 

I was wondering about Abraham. Is he searching for Dan? Has he taken Miriam and her child and "hidden" them away.

Re: the Dan falling in love too fast topic. Flaco thinks that it's possible for him to have been deeply in love with Miriam and then fallen deeply in love with Cam.

I think UA has an excellent point that because of the kind of life Dan has lived since Miriam "died" it seeming like an eternity of time has passed.
 

Vivi, to answer your question, I do think there has to be some bit of time between the death of a loved one and being open to another one. But we have to remember that Dan went through a lot since Miriam supposedly died. I'm not sure how long he was in prison before he broke out, let's say a month. Then he worked odd jobs on a ship on his way to travel to Mexico. Then he jumped ship and swam to shore, Almost died himself, got picked up by an old lady who took care of him until he was well. Then he traveled to Mexico.

Even though the time may have only been say 3-4 months since her 'death', so much happened to Dan during the time that I think it's possible to get past the mourning period more quickly than if you had just continued your life as you had but without the loved one.

And then you just happen to meet someone who you have an immediate attraction to. Like you feel you have known that person for a long time, even though you've never met before. Most people never meet someone like that, but I'm sure if you ever did, it's an incredible feeling. And that's what I think happened to Dan.
 

Timeline musings--
Dan was probably in prison for a month or more before the break-out. The others would have needed some time to feel him out to see if he was trustworthy. He also had several visits from his attorney before the guy cut him off and the last visit from Abe telling him Miriam was dead. And those phone calls to La Malquerida.

Once he broke out, he was on the run for awhile before he got on that ship to Mexico. When he was washed up on shore, the old curandera, who gave him the medal, probably had him for another couple of weeks. (In my memory, I always admired how no matter where he was or for how long he was anywhere, our Hunkalicious was always clean shaven.)

So, once he arrives in Aculco, maybe a week and checks in at Amanda's hostel and gets his bearings, what, another week or so before he gets the job at LaMalquerida?

From then on, he worked fast on winning Camila.

So, if Miriam was at about 6 weeks pregnant, 6 months is the very least he could have been gone up until the reconciliation.

Dan never said how long it had been since Miriam died when he was telling Camila his story in episode #54.

 

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Cathyx: I like what you say here: "And then you just happen to meet someone who you have an immediate attraction to. Like you feel you have known that person for a long time, even though you've never met before. Most people never meet someone like that, but I'm sure if you ever did, it's an incredible feeling. And that's what I think happened to Dan."
 

Thanks Nannette, I think Flaco and I are on the same page.
 

I've heard that men who were deeply in love, and then lose that love to death, easily fall in love again because it was so good the first time that they yearn to have that feeling and fulfillment again as soon as possible, even if it is unconscious. I've often asked that question when I see men re-marry quickly after their first wives die. This was the explanation that was given to me ... by men.
 

BTW, I have to mention the way that Isadora was switching out of the room! As we used to see, "she almost broke something!"


(Thanks for the great recap Mena!)
 

In total agreement with all of you ladies and Flaco. I'm sure Dan feels very lucky to have found Camila. Just as he brought color to her life, that she says was grey (after the death of Luis 3 years before), she did the same for him.
 

Cathyx: Yes, you and Flaco are on the same page.

He's gone even further and said that even if Dan met Cam while he was living his life with Miriam, he would have fallen in love her.
 

"falllen in love WITH her."
 

"He's gone even further and said that even if Dan met Cam while he was living his life with Miriam, he would have fallen in love her."

I do too, if what I said about about what it must have been like when they met was actually what happened.
 

Cam & Dan were both electrified when their hands touched and their eyes met in the restaurant after the flowers dropped onto the floor. Had they never seen each other again, it would have been one of those special memories for both of them. (Remember how she looked around for him and he was gone?) However, since they continued to cross paths, it was just a matter of time before they acknowledged being in love with each other.

netgirl--I've heard about that phenomenum,too, but from widows.
 

I meant phenomenon.
 

Anita; you're right that Dan never mentioned the timing of when Miriam "died" during his tete-a-tete with Cam; however, it was exactly three months from the day that Don Daniel died and when Dan finally arrived in town -- the same day that Alonso met with Beccera in town attempting to bribe him into finding a loophole to circumvent the will and Beccera told him then that they only have nine more months left until Daniel can legally claim his inheritance -- and Also Camila had told her mom that she has been married for three months and nothing sexual happened between Al and her.

Dan was jailed for about two months because only one month had passed from the time he escaped to when he arrived in Aculco (cap 14-15).

Myo-


 

Myo--Thanks for the aclaracion. Of course, now I remember the Oswaldo conversation taking place. That makes building the time-line easier!!
 

Why would Abraham need a leave of absence unless it has something to do with Miriam?
 

Thanks everyone for clearing up the Teresa - Abe discussion. Wonder what Abe's leave of absence is all about?
 

Paternity leave maybe, for Miriam's baby?

Kelly
 

Mena, I just love that title!!!!And you can tell how relieved Camilla was giving her loved one showers of kisses. Love it!!!!
Great catch, Vivi regarding the sim card.
Cathyx, how true what you said. This feeling is the same as those of "love at first sight","first love never ever dies", "love is wonderful, the second time around" and so forth. Love has many name and all of them wonderful.
I only hope that this happiness would not be short-lived.

 

I've just watched tonight's episodio (i.e., Thursday's). I had been under the impression that the East Coast was going to see tomorrow's (Friday's) episodio an hour early because of the Teleton, but the avances speak about Lunes. In other words, there may be no Amor Bravio until Monday. Does anyone have any definite info about this?
 

Juanita--I caught that, too. I checked Univision's schedule and they are calling it Amor Bravio - La Gran Noche (the same thing they are calling Corona de Lagrimas - La Gran Noche). My suspicion is that it is a compilation? or maybe just a repeat. In any case, I would check in at 8:59 tomorrow evening and see. If you pre-record it, well, you'll either have it or something else in the time slot.