Thursday, December 13, 2012
Amor Bravío #84 (Uni 79) Thu 12/13/12 Timmy’s Fallen Down the Well…eerr, Silo! But Maja’s No Lassie; Isa and Caye Talk Bulls***
C: Ahh. What happened is that there weren’t just two of us in my marriage. There were three of us…because you were always VERY present. And you know what I think, Isadora? Alonso is the way he is totally because of you.
I: Different? How?
C: In everything. He would have been a more secure man. A man who recognized his own value. Not always under the skirts of his mother, controlling him against his will. You treat him so badly, like he’s a nothing, that…are you really his mother?
I: Of course I’m his mother.
C: Well it doesn’t seem like it. Nope. I don’t know how a woman who is so intelligent like you, so blessed with qualities, even so good looking, would use all of that to manipulate her son—who should be the person you most love in the world, no?
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Vivi! How fun to have the recap up as it is airing in Utah. I logged on to publicly SQUEE about the reunion of Lazaro y Carina!
Thanks for filling in.
I guess I owe you a double thank you for the recap, Vivi. I will read it in its entirety tomorrow.
Now go to bed, Girl! It's midnight in DC.
You caught the very same things I did for the very same reasons: the CME reunion between Karina and Lazaro (he's a little grey at the temples now) and Mini-Me Adorable Ana. They had to have done the wardrobe bit on purpose.
So, cold-blooded Xi (who knew she had Komodo Dragon blood in her system, too--must have been an Isa transfusion) is blithely going to let Bruno off Camila.
I got the biggest kick out of Mariano repelling down the brick wall and then carrying Roman back up on his back. The thing that made me go grab my made-by-Emilia Beanie, was how unhurt this little guy was. It had to have been a 10-12 ft. fall at least. Remember when Camila twisted her ankle falling off her horse and D'Andres carried her all the way in and gently deposited her on the couch? I would have expected at least that much from them -- but better not to have moved him at all. He could have had a concussion or broken bones, spinal chord, you name it. Instead there he is, sitting around while they discuss his fate. Ooooh, I could have crowned Isa for her nasty remarks. No wonder Cam called her on her child rearing later.
Thank you, Vivi for the conversation translation. Sometimes I just can't understand Camila at all.
Ok here go the faves:
>You know you’ve gone too far when Bruno has to ask you if you’re sure you want to do this to your own sister< (or she should have known)
>Hissssadora has changed into her most sexy, tight, high-waist pants, and military bomber jacket for her walk down Money Lane with Cayetano< (to me, she just looked as though she needed some sessions at Willy's gym)
>all Cayetano needs to do to impress Isa is wave around some Benjamins< (I think she'd rather have some James Madisons or Salmon P. Chases)
>Cayetano continues to talk bull to Isa, who pretends to be interested< (she's ready to take his bull by the horns and put Rocio out to pasture--there's more green in them thar rancho than in Dio's back pocket)
>Os is sure Amanda is more at ease with Nat being far away from He Who Shall Not Be Named--the other one, not the one without a tongue< (ugghh those three words are worse than the picture of the bandaged head and the twirling eyes)
>The bull(sh*t) keeps passing between and in front of Isa and Cayetano. Isa marvels at the size of his...herd of bulls< (ok, just say it, balls--she'd love to step on them as well)
>Cayetano is obviously a man who doesn’t spend a lot of time thinking, so Isa’s questions seem to make his brain hurt< (it comes from 40+ years of listening to Rocio)
>Camila arrives home on the range to be greeted by the last person she would want to see—ex-hubby, attempted rapist, woman beater ALonSoLoco< (You said it best-->> What a buzz kill after spending the morning smooching with Dan the Man<<)
>Yago sits by himself on one of the BV ranch dividing walls....maybe he’s thinking that the blue checked shirt he’s sporting brings out his eyes? In any case, he’s bored enough to decide to mess with Natalia’s head with more games< (He's such a transparent jerk--I'm glad Natalia managed to see through him)
>Having been left completely out of the MQ gossip loop, FX is mighty impactado to learn his daughter’s finance is the ex-husband of his ex-stepdaughter. “This is TERRIBLE!” Xi tells him to save it< (Can you all tell I have some time on my hands? Vivi has a way of turning a phrase that is soooo absolutely perfect, I just have to keep going--well, just one more)
>He [Al] stomps off, while Dio chuckles behind his back, and Isa sneaks up behind Dio’s back. (Perfect symbolism for these three back-stabbers.)< (Vivi you rock, amiga.)
BTW--Juanita asked about the next episodio being announced for lunes. I checked UNI's on-line schedule and they are showing:
7-9--Corona de Lagrimas - La Gran Noche (sounds like a digest of prior episodes)
9-10--Amor Bravio - La Gran Noche (so, it might be a repeat or the best of, or in the beginning was.. who knows what it means)
10-for the next 28 hours, the Teleton
My advice for those who watch it live is to set aside the 9 o'clock hour and if it's not a new episode, read a book or go make cookies.
If you record it to watch later, do it, to be on the safe side. You can always delete it later if not a new episode.
Without knowing the specifics of the case, I think Ximeana just signed her own death warrant, from the writers if not from Hissadora. It will be interesting to see Rocio's reaction to her; I would be shocked if Rocio didn't immediately detect what this predator is up to.
I am so disappointed in Maja for not having a Lassie moment. How could such a sweet dog not be smart enough for that? Or is she just supposed to be big and soft to cuddle her peeps?
Loved Camila's calling Hissadora out on her toxic parenting. Now Camila needs to talk to Becerra about the forged will.
You recappers and commenters are so smart.
Ann-NYC
Xi is being an idiot. Letting her jealousy of Camila blind her to the fact that Isa is evil and not to be trusted, by anyone. It will definitely come to bite her in the butt. Isa uses people, and always manages to make it look like her own hands are clean, just like Dio.
Leoncerdo learning to read and write will be interesting. However I doubt he will ever get out of prison once they find proof that he killed Julian. He probably could, however, provide something that can nail El Diablo.
Isadora will be bad for Rocio's health and wealth, because she's putting two and two together about Rocio/Pablo/Don Daniel and she's calculating the worth of BV and scheming on Cayetano.
Pablo is at risk as well because Isadora will figure out HE is the true heir to MQ.
So, it seems there were never any charges filed against Daniel in connection with the murder/attempted murder of Miriam.
a) Teresa needs to find out for sure if Miriam is alive or not.
b) Daniel can't really be a fugitive from justice if he was never charged in the first place.
c) I would assume the Chilean officials are/were investigating the jailbreak that led to the escape of Daniel Diaz Acosta. Since it appears no charges were ever filed against Daniel for him to be locked up in the first place, there might be an investigation into WHY he was there in the first place (leading to suspicion on Abraham)
or
d) Abraham is taking a leave of absence to take care of a not-dead Miriam.
I never thought Miriam was dead, and the fact that there are no charges filed against Daniel kind of proves that for me. If Miriam WAS dead, and her husband has disappeared, wouldn't there be murder charges against him in abscencia?
e) Dante will be important for Teresa to find out information about Miriam....since Miriam bought the life insurance policy through him he would know if she was dead or not. If she did die, and there were no charges ever filed against Daniel, Daniel is the beneficiary of her life insurance policy.
f) Dante could've also raised questions about the charges(lack thereof) against Daniel (leading to Abraham's "leave of absence)
g) Since Daniel is a dual Mexican/Chilean citizen, I wonder if Osvaldo will invoke that to get Dan out of trouble for entering Mexico illegally?
Roman was extremely mobile, alert and well for somebody who fell 10/12 feet down a silo. And Isadora will pull a Cynthia/Bruno/Vanesa and call DIF on Roman.
Good points about Dante. Also, if Miriam is dead (which I don't believe) Daniel inherits her money and other assets.
I wonder how Anon207 only missed 5 minutes when my station went to Jenni Rivera coverage about 20 minutes in. I do feel so sad about her death, but do I need to stare at the wall of the garage that holds the airplane that carried her body in to the Long Beach Airport? And to find out I missed an FX scene! Can't say as I much like the character, but I LOVE his scenes.
So, Vivi, we are especially happy you did a thorough recap, and it was not too long at all.
Maja, Maja, Maja, you're beautiful to look at and certainly a great cuddle, but you're definitely no Tonki(DdP).
Note to Roman, if they keep talking about DIF or orfanatos, get a cervical brace and a lawyer, you could end up a very wealthy waif.
Carlos
I too was surprised that they quickly moved Roman without knowing the extent of his injuries. He could have had a broken back. Of course, it turns out that he seems to be fine--definitely a beanie-tightening moment.
Hey Carlos, bienvenido. I didn't know you were watching AB. I loved your "Note to Roman."
Anon207 mentioned that "Pablo is at risk as well because Isadora will figure out HE is the true heir to MQ." Isn't the true heir to MQ the one(s) that Don Dan stipulated in his will? He didn't say "whoever turns out to be my blood relation," so I don't think Pablo is the "true heir," though Daniel and Camila may very well find a way to include him.
Yikes, I've got an appointment in a few minutes, so I'm going to end this now and try to prove that I'm not a robot.
I also was hoping Choli would inquire about Luzma. Surely Choli knew Piedad was pregnant at the time of the wedding.
We have two brothers on this show who have done bad things to keep their sisters away from the men they loved: Leoncio w/Piedad & Abraham w/Miriam.
Anon207 - Once again thanks for your list on Dan and the charges or lack thereof in Chile. And your observation about overly protective brothers is spot on too.
Though I don't predict things well, there are some things we know about the Bruno plan.
1. Though he may wound Dan or Cam, they both will live since they are the protagonists.
2. However, since both have been in the hospital recently, I'm thinking Bruno will botch the attempt and harm someone else. Xi is my first choice but it may be Al.
I just want to hold out the hope that since our couple have both been injured they don't have to go back to the hospital in a life or death situation again.
I give Maja a break for missing a Lassie moment. She just met these kids and was only passing through. But if Camila or Dan had fallen in the silo, she would've been all over it.
Those sausage pants were not Hisssadora's friend.
Nice to see Piedad get a love interest, after 20 years of nada de nada.
I like Ana, but she's old enough to know better than to ask Mariano and Camila about getting married, in front of everyone. She hasn't even seen them kiss.
Then there is Iago, who participated in Ileana's plan to separate Pablo from Luzma.
While I think that Roman will end up with Mariano and Ana, Rocio will not like this one little bit.
Even Hiss knew those pants weren't attractive. She kept walking with her hands on her thighs. That being said, I wish I had her shape and looked like that in those pants!
However, legalities don't stop Isadora when it comes to getting what she wants, and Pablo being the son of Don Daniel would be a way to get what she wants.
She also has her eye on BV and Cayetano. However, Rocio is in the way. Pablo not being Cayetano's son but Don Daniel's is a way to get rid of Rocio and pave the way for her to get her hands on Cayetano and BV.
really good show, if anyone's interested.
they're showing this weeks episodes on Sunday again, from 2-7pm. they don't have English captions in the first run at 9pm, and do at midnight and Sunday re-runs.
Anon 207 and others - you think Miriam is alive? How about the baby? Maybe the baby is alive and thriving and Miriam is still in a coma?
“You know you’ve gone too far when Bruno has to ask you if you’re sure you want to do this to your own sister.” –-Bingo!!!
Laz (Luis Gatica) is in this? I’m so excited—he was one of my favorites on CME.
However, if everyone knew Leoncio killed Fidencio, why wasn’t he arrested?
I love Maja, but wish they’d stop showing her. I’d rather miss seeing her, than have her a continued presence and possibly end up in danger/dead.
Looking forward to seeting the Aaron/Rafa scene. I love those two as brothers.
Iago = creep. Run Nat. Run from Iago.
“Having Camila back in my life is as if my soul has returned to my body.”—some people might call that cheesy. But I say ahhhhhhhhh!!
Kudos to Cam for nailing Isa for Al’s probs. Glad to see part of it penetrated Isa’s self-serving brain.
Teresa – welcome addition to the Scooby Gang.
Re: The One Who Shall Be Nameless: By-the-way, Flaco thinks that TOTSBN will escape jail and blackmail Isa into sleeping with him.
Nanette
RlaO: I think Miriam is either in a coma/dead and the baby is alive.
Here's hoping Hippolito returns with Piedad. I want to see more of him and Piedad will want to be near Luz--at least until she's married.
Wonder if Dante will start being in it more.
Fidencio's family & friends might not have known where Leoncio & Piedad were.
Luzma is 18 years old, so Leoncio & Piedad have been gone from that town for almost 19 years.
Hipolito needs to come forth and tell the police he saw Leoncio hurl Fidencio's body off the cliff, now that he has contact with Luzma.
"Even Hiss knew those pants weren't attractive. She kept walking with her hands on her thighs. That being said, I wish I had her shape and looked like that in those pants!"
Ok, I was going to skip watching this episode because Vivi in DC is the detail queen of recaps, but now I have to see those pants.
I said it before and I'll say it again. Leticia Calderon is a very attractive woman. Too bad she's playing such an ugly character.
I really really hope Natalia doesn't go back with Yago. But I'm sure she will. They always do.
Ann-NYC
That makes two of us, cathyx!
1) What a buzz kill after spending the morning smooching with Dan the Man.
2) The stroll and the chat/interrogation continue
3) Mariano can tell it’s good news (not for you buddy) just by the look on her face.
You have such an entertaining way with words, and great command of the language. I would love to see more of your recaps in the future (This is my first).
"Oh, and Camila? Please don't talk baby talk to Dan. Okay? That grosses me out."
Oh thank goodness!!! It was driving me crazy too. Treating him like a puppy dog? What?
Thanks much, Vivi! I haven't been able to catch up much with the recap, but I will! I knew it wasn't Kat when I read the first paragraph. What a nice surprise!
Yes, I believe it was Anita who posted a YouTube showing the In Crowd making a toast and Camila talking about La Bonita. This will probably be it! So glad we won't miss it.
Daniel may not be a puppy, but he does have those puppy dog eyes that drive us crazy. Still no reason for Camila to talk to him like Maja. Good one, Vivi!
myo
Instead of concentrating on the wine, settle in for what promises to be a terrific make-up love scene (according to the avances).
I'm glad we aren't going to miss it.
I think it was Silvia baby talking to Maja--quien es el mas guapo del mundo???, but it was cute in a small dose and Daniel was amused and embarassed, but he's happy and knows he's among friends, he has his soulmate back and she's on board Team Scooby Doo, so I'm giving Camila a pass on this one.
They are right that that youtube I was talking about does have spoilers, obvious ones but still things that have not happened yet, so don't watch it!
Aaron is pretty mentally on the ball with his phone calls to Dio. I would be so nervous to make a call like that and would have to write my dialogue down first. He just gets in character and goes for it!
The synopsis last night was kind of cool, but it also showed just how much plot has happened by all that was left out. I thought the synopsis at the end of Abismo covered most of the plot pretty well, yet this synopsis of only half of AB barely covered it. In addition to the first kiss, I liked seeing Cam' s wedding dress, for her wedding to Al, again. The halter and mermaid shape and updo looked really good on her. No wonder Dio was smitten.
My Gran Noche episode airs at midnight tonight. Now I'm excited to see it!
The list is chronological.
Highpoints:
Vivi and Rafa getting closer.
Pablo gets a job and it’s near Luz.
Rodolfo keeps his job (as if there was any doubt).
Aggie ragging on Dio in his office and his reaction when she leaves.
Al and Xi’s shopping montage. I like this show of affection for her—even though they are the ultimate dysfunctional couple.
Nat being comforted by her mother.
Cam’s little smile re: the flowers.
Os kissing Amanda.
Xi smacking Al right back.
Dio forced to make love to his wife.
The Scoobies foiling Bruno’s plot.
Aaron and Rafa’s scene about Rafa loving Vivi. Well played, Aaron. I loved it when he was grinning at Rafa when he was so furious.
All the mugging everyone was doing behind Cam’s back when she came to doctor Dan.
Ag telling Dio off (see below)
Pablo and Luzma’s scene when he reported for work.
CAM AND DAN BACK TOGETHER!!!!!
Al stealing the SIM card.
Tolontino and Padre’s little talk
Nat becoming a spy (clever girl).
LAZ!!!!!!!!!!!! (for those who didn’t see the awesome Cuando Me Enamoro—Hipolito!!!!!!!).
The brother’s continued conversation about Vivi.
Nat blowing Iago off.
All the Cam/Dan/Scooby Gang at Vivi’s scenes.
Low Points:
Nat’s sadness.
Cayetano trying to manipulate Pablo to return to the ranch (which you would think by now he’d realize he can’t manipulate Pablo).
Bruno’s freaky visit to Vivi’s bedroom.
Al hitting Xi.
Ag falling for Dio’s line—again.
Dio and Ag “role playing” (Eww!).
Piedad’s face-to-face with Fidencio’s mother.
Iago calling Nat—creep.
Nat the spy (she’s in danger, Will Robinson, danger).
Xi plotting against Cam.
Yay!! to Rafa for not being jealous. He's definitely over Cam and into Vivi!
I was also very happy to see that Rafa is totally over Cam and that the whole gang can joke about it. I kept thinking back to the dysfunction of the group of so called friends in Abismo and the ongoing jealousy till the very end. This group is way more mature about things.
Dio forced to make love to his wife.
He almost can't stop himself from shuddering afterward.
Foxy: Actually, didn't care one way or the other about the Roman/Ana scene which is why I didn't put it on my list--not that I don't like the boy or Ana or the potential storyline. I agree that Isa is technically right about the legality of what Cam and Mariano were doing; however, I don't think she made the point because she cares about that, I think she made the point because she's a heartless witch. And she wanted to put the screws to Cam. :)
I was walking through Marshall's yesterday and saw hanging on one of their "special" racks a long red plaid cotton shirt with three-quarter-length sleeves. It stopped me in my tracks and gave me a good laugh. If it weren't the dead of winter, I would have been tempted to buy it. I then read Vivi's recap and laughed again at the reference to Ana in Camila-mode, plaid shirt, headband, boots.
By the way, happy holidays to any Hanakkuh celebrators and good luck with the preparations for other holidays coming up. It is a crazy, crazy time of year. I hope that we don't have too many interruptions of our novelas this month.
Also, it's time for Cam to have that little talk with Luz about forgiving friends.
Nanette- I'd also like to know Carlos' assessment of our bad girls. Perhaps ask him again on a freesh recap. Just on a scale of badness, Isa far outrates the other two, and Ileana is at the very bottom of the scale. Of course, Carlos would have a scale of attractiveness for them, I can't begin to imagine which of our three bad girls floats his boat the most. :)
Can't wait to see more of how Camila and the others try to discover more about what Dionisio and Isadora are planning. As for Ximena's plan, I just hope it doesn't involve killing Camila like Isadora's did. It could, since she hates her sister so much. Lately Ximena's starting to become another Bratgirl along with Ileana.
I hope Xi is not the murdering type. I'm really hoping she's just a spendthrift with jealousies. I wonder how she could align herself with Hiss after hearing what she'd done?
Bruno, on the other hand, seems like he'd kill for money.
Ximeana isn't the killer type and I doubt she's going to go there, but she will definitely fall because she will enable someone else to. (Prediction, not a spoiler).
The thing is, her vengeance on Camila doesn't even make sense anymore. Camila specifically asked Al not to marry Xi because she felt he was not emotionally stable and would eventually end up hurting her sister. Xi has now seen that first hand, when Al beat her after not being able to perform. That incident alone should have changed Xi's mind about getting back at Camila.
I noticed in the synopsis how similar that first scene on the honeymoon when Al could not perform on the wedding night was to the scene when he could not perform with Xi. He even said many of the same words and made the same accusations.
I noticed, too, how when Al proposed he said HIS MOTHER wanted him to have an engagement party, and then HIS MOTHER wore off-white to the wedding.
They skipped over a lot of the prison plot. I think we got it 3rd person when Padre was talking about it.
Bruno has an violent streak in him that he doesn't control (beating up Vivi), when he supposedly loves a her. He also is clever, amoral, and in need of money, preferrably quickly. When Dio wouldn't pay him, he needed another job. He claims he wants to leave town, but as long as Vivi is there, he's not going to leave.
Whatever was proposed by Isa, it apparently has not made him reflect on the end result. I wouldn't put it past him to kill for double the money. Whatever it is, it apparently does not make him turn down a job that involves Xi's own sister and for something as petty as jealousy.
Xi had some moments of remorse when she was talking to Isa. She asked if they really had to do this. Isa told her they've gone too far to back-track. Then she threatened Xi with prison for theft if she tried to back out or betray them. Xi prefers to save her own skin.
We know Isa won't stop at murder. Her thought-bubble after Camila took her down for her terrible mothering was, who cares, you don't know what is waiting for you.
To us in viewerville, that could go either way--doing something terrible to hurt Camila or an assassination. Since Cam & Dan have to end up together, we can assume Cam survives.
When Xi asked Bruno to make it look like it was Al's fault and paying him double for it is part, I wondered if that was also part of Isa's plan. In conclusion, Isa is one cold-hearted bi***--but we already knew that.
Can't wait to find out what Bruno is going to do and if he fails.
was googling Michel Brown, and stumbled upon this tn, which happens to start today on Telemundo.
It's just a guess, we will have to find out in future episodes.
Can't wait for the bull fritters to hit the frying pan tonight!
Jenny Rivera QEPD--but visuals of her remains returning don't qualify for ratings as a riveting reality and are not worthy of breaking into my telenovela's last five minutes!!
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