Caray, Caray!

Happy New Year to all the Caray Caray family - recappers, commenters, lurkers and anyone else with a pulse who reads this. I hope you have success in all your resolutions and a productive and peaceful year with you and yours.

I look forward to more Wednesday recaps and learning from all of you.

Recapfully Yours,
Mena
 

Happy New Year to you too! What a nice way to start it off:
-next selection on the list was the hospital waiting room
-If Maria Elena turns out to be a good guy, you'll refer to her as Mena
-neener neener nee so there
Loved it!

What did Alonso ask of Rosario??????

That was so funny when Natalia said she liked to watch TNs.

Even Rodolfo knew he'd acted like an arse in that convo with Nat.

I'm nervous about new girl with Pablo. Do we smell a wedding postponement? If so, I just know he won't let Luz be alone when she has the baby. Oh, I don't even want to think of it.

3 skingroy
 

Disregard my "3 skingroy". That was the word ver that I obviously typed in the wrong place. A robot wouldn't do that.
 

LOL - thank you for reassuring us you are not a robot.
 

Thanks Mena, very nice.

So much happening now.

Chippie impactada that Pablo is getting married? Me thinks she's been hired by Rocio to put the moves on Pablo while she works there.

I wish we could have been in on Al's plan. I hope Rosario was taping that conversation.
 

I thought the conversation with Aggie and the Comandante as a bit different. I thought Aggie volunteered some of the info about Dan suspecting Isa and Dion without the Comandante bringing it up, and that peaked his interest because of what Al said. So he said he would speak with Dan to get his side of the story. Did anyone else take it that way?
 

Cathy X, Yes, there was some more detail in Aggie offering some info after the commander asked her what she knew about Dan and Al's accusations. My eyes blurred over after she went on the Dio defense and because she didn't reveal anything other than to make commander figure he better talk to Dan, FINALLY!
 

Do you think that Bacerra getting stabbed was a hit on him by Dion? To me, it had to be. I hope Al has a backup plan.

Also, didn't Comandante tell Al that Becerra gave him papers for Al to sign over Malquerida back to Dan?
 

ah hem, I mean about Al's accusation about trying to kill Dan.
 

Thanks for the recap Mena, you had me laughing. I'm sure Osvaldo was stabbed at the request of Dio and the watch was taken to make the assault look like a robbery. That should keep Amanda in town for a while. I hope too that Chayo recorded the conversation with Isa who so easily under-estimates everyone's intelligence.

Maya is such a good actor. That dog did not stray once from the script and bark out of turn, even when other dogs/friends were barking on the set. I'm glad SN was smart enough to ad-lib Maya's liberation from that scene.

Yola
 

Mena, what I'm trying to say, is that when Aggie went to talk to the comandante, he asked her what she knew of what Al said about being accused of trying to kill Dan, and Aggie volunteered the info that Dan thinks that Dion and Isa were also behind the plot but she wanted to clear Dion's name in that. The comandante didn't bring up Dion's or Isa's name first, Aggie did. That set off alarm bells in the Comandante because Al mentioned that too. So that's why he wants to talk to Dan. I hope that the comandante starts having doubts about Al's part and maybe will at least give Al's accusations some thought.
 

At least the avances show Becerra sitting up in bed, talking. I hope he talks quickly! So much to say, and possibly so little time.
 

I doubt Bacerra knows anything. He's just going to say it was a random hit. But I hope that he finds someone to get Al to sign the papers.
 

Thanks, Mena. Very funny recap. I really enjoyed it.

““Que?” asks Marie Elena who is entirely too new to the place to have an opinion and the camera fades away.”—when I asked Flaco to explain that scene to me and he told me what happened, I had the same thought. Badly done writers. Or is there something we don’t know?!

Loved Cam’s shout to Rafa when he calls (though the news ends up bad). Another great bit of business from SN.

Like that Rosario isn’t stupid like SOME mothers in this TN.

I found this ep kind of slow moving. The only excitement was Os getting stabbed, and that was not good excitement.

Nanette
 

I meant Becerra needs to talk about all he knows about Dio et al. I think Comandante would find him more credible than Al. That's where he was heading when he got stabbed.
 

Mena - Thanks. Fine recap and I always appreciate vocab. "The question is where to have the boooodaa, that’s boda party!" - cute shout-out to Frankie, whom I hope returns to be of some use to Dan.

I'm glad Dio ordered Becerra to only be hurt, not killed. At least that's what I think Dio was going for since the thugs stabbed Becerra just once. On the plus, maybe this will trigger Amanda to realize she is/isn't in love with Becerra.

I don't think Pablo has any interest in the new girl but that Luzma, already a bundle of nerves, will interpret something innocent in the wrong way.

I'm betting Rosario taped that conversation. Now that Al can literally only use his head, its firing on all cylinders to take Hissadora down.
 

Hello all and Happy New Year!

I'm joining the "Miriam is alive" camp. There seem to be too many references to finding her "grave." So now we know that Dante and Teresa will go to the mountains to visit her parents to try to find Abe, that it is a remote village, and that Daniel want the address of Miriam's grave site. At this rate, Miriam will probably answer the door at her parents' home or be out in the garden picking flowers with little Dan Jr. in a nearby basket.

Maria Elena ... I don't get her expression unless she immediately thought that she had a love at first sight thing going on.

Osvaldo ... as soon as he was stabbed, I thought about all of your "anvils falling" comments in the past and the mention that he'd be next.

I hope that Alonso signs the papers and gives them to Camila while she's in the hospital (I saw her at his hospital window in the avances.)

Loved the scene in Camila's cabana where she and Dan were drinking coffee and talking, and giving little kisses while he was on the laptop. They just seemed like a content couple.

So Dan doesn't know that Vivi has the hots for Aaron (too).

I still think that there will be a twist in the Bratgirl/Rodolfo story. I'm waiting for something unexpected to happen. I don't care about Yago ... he can just be alone in the end.

Cayetano is already having an emotional affair if he's calling in secret and covering it up. He's lusting.

Looking forward to the next episode. Thanks for the recap Mena!

 

Feliz Ano Nuevo a todos!

I too thought that Maria Elena could have been hired by Rocio to make a play for Pablo, but given she's a secretary, I didn't think she would be so-called good enough for the La Snob Rocio....or perhaps she's really an heiress under cover.
 

Dan wants to prove to Abraham that Abe is wrong about Dan.

However, Dan's current living situation only proves Abraham RIGHT about Dan:

Abe thinks Dan was only after Miriam for her money. Now he's resurfaced in Mexico, not a year after the wife he loves so much's death, engaged to a woman who happens to be heiress to a huge ranch and fortune.

Never mind that Daniel was named the heir to the ranch & fortune by the lady's uncle. All Abraham will see is Dan making moves on another rich girl and that will just confirm what he's always thought about Dan.

About the insurance situation: Miriam bought the policy days before the attack, naming Daniel as the beneficiary. Dante was on vacation when Miriam was shot*/Dan went on the run. Daniel, to my knowledge, didn't know about the policy. Abraham, being a detective did, but he's not the beneficiary. Can someone who's NOT the beneficiary file a claim? I doubt Abraham would file a claim on behalf of Daniel.

*If you notice in the opening credits, they don't have the clip of Miriam looking distressed after being shot anymore. They used to have a clip of Miriam smiling and Luis & Camila kissing, followed by a clip of Miriam looking distressed after being shot and Camila screaming over Luis.

Now they just have the clip of Miriam smiling and Luis & Camila kissing, followed by a clip of Camila screaming over Luis. That's another clue in the "Miriam Aint Dead" theory (IMO).
 

Anon207: Astute observations, as always.
 

Mena, you are s-o-o-o good. This recap is beyond brilliant. The irreverence, the humor, the alliteration, I hate that work "snark", but yes, that too...stop me.

Yes, I thought Maria Elena was "entirely too new to the place to have an opinion" Kind of made me suspect she was a plant by the bad guys. Seemed abrupt and out of sync.

Aaron is just too sweet and "meh!" for me. He's a cute and serious guy, but nothin's cooking there. The other brother has some spark. But this whole plotline just takes up a bit too much screentime for me.

I was actually yelling "No no no"at the TV when they stabbed Osvaldo. As if we didn't all know this was coming. But I'm beginning to feel the weight of many anvils.

Mena, I love how you learn the name of every character, insignificant or not. I was glad to know that Becerra's sec'y was named Marguerita. All the minor players have so much presence in this show.

In the scene where Juarez questions Ditzy Aggie in his office, I wasn't sure whether or not we were to surmise that Omar was lipreading el Capitan's questions to Aggie or not. I wish they woulda shut the door. Because Dion is getting much too much info about everybody's "whoabouts and whereabouts."

@RosieLaOtra,re:"...when Natalia said she liked to watch TNs"I don't think I've ever seen a TN where there isn't a sly reference to the TN industry. Sometimes, it's even a plot point.

—Agnes





 

Happy New Year everyone!!!

Great stuff as always!

(trivia & random thoughts) Flavio Medina originally signed for 100 episodes due to previous engagement of his next project. His acting in AB is superior than anyone else - looooove him

I love the speculations; they are fun and creative -- it shows that some viewers have real imagination.... But AB was not written like any other TN -- so far there haven't been any contrived situations; superficial and force fed relationships and rampant cliches and predictability.

So, I don't see why at this point they'll start--for instance Cayetonto is a straight shooter; he says it like it is--there's no reason for him to hire NEW GIRL for interference. Pablo is devoted to and madly in love with Luzma; I don't see why he'll suddenly fall for NEW GIRL.

As Martha Carillo stated AB is original and different from other TN because the basic formula of most TN doesn't apply. It's a drama so the situations are over the top but real life solutions apply to those situations.


Again some are saying how slow these episodes have been; just a caution, it doesn't get any better from now on. But the drama, the angst, the love, the devotion etc etc are really good.

Myo-
 

Anon207, Abraham told Dan that Miriam is dead. Abraham knows he told Dan that, so I think Dan has a pass to fall in love again. He clearly isn't after her money because Dan is the inheritor, not Camila.
 

Anon207, Abraham told Dan that Miriam is dead. Abraham knows he told Dan that, so I think Dan has a pass to fall in love again. He clearly isn't after her money because Dan is the inheritor, not Camila.
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Yes but it hasn't even been a year since "Miriam's death" and Dan is already engaged to another rich woman? Abraham's not going to look kindly on that. It doesn't matter that Dan was the inheritor in the Camila situation...Random Police Detective asked Abraham why Daniel would kill Miriam for money when he was inheriting this big ranch/fortune in Mexico and Abraham dismissed this logic by stating that Dan wanted his Mexican money and Miriam's money too. I don't think Abraham is going to think too highly on Daniel's current situation when he resurfaces.
 

Anon207 -- great observations; but the opening credits do not tell all the story of the AB--nor do the various promos ... it is just a fragment mostly based on the first part of the story ....


Myo-
 

Great recap, Mena! Your zingers at the end of almost every paragraph had me laughing so hard!

I’ve noticed something going on with Biblical names … Daniel is clearly in not only a in lion’s den, but also a hornet’s nest and up a creek as well. Wasn’t Solomon the king who was going to cut the baby in half when two women were both claiming to be the mom and then decided that the true mom was the one who would rather the other mom keep the baby so that the baby would not be cut in half? If Rosario is playing Isa, then it seems we have another non-mom who wants the baby dead and a real mom who doesn’t and a Solomon who falsified the birth certificate. We’ve got Abraham, Miriam, and Aaron as well, but I don’t know how or if they connect to the Biblical namesakes.

I am not so sure what Rosario is up to, though. Al was talking ‘I don’t want to live’ crazy talk right before he made his proposition to her, so I hope he didn’t ask her to mercy kill him.

I like the idea of Teresa and Dante taking a trip into the hinterlands of Chile and spending lots of time together. And I really like the idea of seeing more of Dante in general - for his curative effects. ;)

Commander Cop seems to have half a brain. That’s good news.

I did not like seeing Becerra get stabbed at all.

Cayetano is a really bad liar. So is Rodolfo.

 

Good going, Mena.

I am also thinking that Maria Elena is a plant by Rocio. Not that Rocio would want Pablo to fall for a lowly secretary; she just wants her around long enough to force a break-up with Luzma. If Luzma then gets the idea that the Albarran men just pump and dump, she'll head for the hills faster than Speedy Gonzales.

Which -- if Rocio really gave an infinitesimal damn -- would make her look like a really bad mother.

Becerra will get better, but we will probably have to wait a while to find out if he ends up winning Amanda.
 

Let's not also forget the ancient world names: Augustina and Dionisio.

The wife of Rome's first emperor was Livia Augusta except that she had a brain more like Isadora's. Dionisio is the Latin of Dyonisus, the god of wine and revelry. But whose revelry often is destructive.

Amanda makes me think of Spock's mother on Star Trek, whose name was chosen for her because it means "worthy to be loved."
 

Thanks for this clever and very amusing recap, Mena. Very nicely done.

Wow, yesterday I was all set to leap to New Girl's defense but it looks as though you suspicious ladies were definitely a step ahead (as usual). I think it's safe to say after her reaction to learning of the upcoming nuptials that she has...ummm...an agenda?

cathyx,

"...Abraham told Dan that Miriam is dead. Abraham knows he told Dan that, so I think Dan has a pass to fall in love again."

So I guess that's that... sorry Miriam.

I did notice that Dante agreed to find out for Dan where Miriam is interred so maybe she is dead after all. I would think he would know, what with being her insurance agent and all... and yet...

Also, I was thinking that the comandante still thinks that Dan is Andres. Has he been told the truth about Dan's true identity? I must have missed that.

Carlos

 

Carlos, I remember Dan and Comandante Cop talking in the hospital waiting room (where else?) and Dan telling him who he was. He also giving him his word that he would come in to make a statement on Leonicio (which he hasn't done yet). This was after Camila's kidnapping, while she was still in the hospital.
 

Carlos, That is actually true and a detail I didn't bring back out. The only thing that he was told is that Dan is at MQ. But he does, as far as I recollect think that Dan is Andres based on their conversation is the, of course, hospital waiting room when they found Camila.
 

What a fun recap Mena! Thank you.

See, told you that chippie had her eye on Pablo! I don't think she's some kind of plant-- Rocio isn't that smart. But I do think she saw a cute, young, rich guy, found out he was going to be her boss, and started having all kinds of happy fantasies. He shock, I think, was a combination of her fantasy so quickly coming to a screeching halt, and being genuinely surprised that someone so young is getting married.

Carlos- Comandante does NOT know Andres is Daniel. When they spoke in the hospital and he told Andres that he still needed his statement, Dan just sort of hemed and hawed and said ok, but didn't come out with the truth of his identity.

I can't wait to find out what Al and Chayo have planned.

I was very happy to see Lic Becerra sitting up and talking in the previews. I don't know about you guys who felt this was a boring episode. Lic Becerra getting stabbed, and Al and Chayo plotting against Isa were plenty for me!

Loved the scenes with Vivi-Cami-Maja, and Cami-Dan. I also want to see more of Dante. Why not add another cute guy to the mix? :)
 

I just reread that.... let me restate it using a few brain cells. Yes, the Commander Cop still thinks Dan is Andres. He knows that Dan is around and living at MQ but has not put Andres together as Dan.... that is as far as I recollect unless I missed something over the holidays. Based on my loopy explanation, it is also possible I missed something!
 

Vivi and Mena, I think you are right. I also think you have much better memories than I do. :)

 

Mena thanks for your recap. And everyone has such great comments.

Niecie - ITA that Dio must have only wanted Os harmed and not dead b/c his hired thugs had the opportunity to do so.

And regarding our new girl, ITA w/Vivi that hiring her would be way too advanced for silly Rocio; she just got shocked her new secret fantasy boy was off the market.
 

I think Vivi really has the hots for Rafa, more so than Aaron. When Cami asked her if she was grossed out, felt nothing, etc when Rafa kissed her, Vivi answered, "I didn't feel nothing (the double negative used in Spanish), I felt EVERYTHING!" She also mentioned the word passion with Rafa. Peace and protection, the words she associated with Aaron, sound more like brotherly feelings to me.
 

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Re: New Girl. Wouldn't Rocio had told her that Pablo was getting married and that she wanted her to stop it? It wouldn't make sense to hire her for that and not tell her the whole truth. Unless she was acting. If she was surprised because she was attracted to Pablo AND he was awfully young to get married, I still think her reaction was a little overdone. Maybe the writers meant for her to tell him she's shocked he's getting married so young, and that gives him pause. Though knowing Pablo, that's not about to happen. Really don't know what's going on here.

Miriam could be dead and Abe has the baby.
 

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Netgirl- No. Dan does not know that Vivi has the hots for Aaron too, so Cami was kind of stalling and trying to change the subject when Rafa called and she was saved by the bell, so to speak. This is just between Vivi and Cami. While Rafa, Aaron, and Dan are confused about why Vivi just won't say yes to Rafa. Boys with the boys, and the girls with the girls on this subject.

Great save and quick thinking by Nat with the telenovela thing!
 

Thanks Mena for another of your great recaps.

Netgirl. I love your comment “Cayetano is already having an emotional affair if he's calling in secret and covering it up. He's lusting”
That is so true but isn’t that ultra sweet tone in which Isa “purrs” his name “Cayetaaaaaano” enough to make any old fart lust ? :-)

As far as the various subplots, I enjoy Rafa and Aaron, they are scheming and entertaining which keeps me anticipating their next move. However, IMO, it’s the Luz and Pablo subplot that has gotten way too much screen time. Theirs is the same thing over and over.
 

Excellent and very funny read, amiga! Lots of snarky zingers that had me giggling all the way through!




 

Oh my - I laughed through this entire re-cap Way to go!!

Myo - I also love the way irony of the characters and thier biblical similarities.

Heres some fun stuff:

Ximena comes from the root Ximen = Simon. Jesus renamed Simon, Peter. Legend suggests that Peter was crucified upside down.

Luzma = Luz Maria = Mary and Light

Pablo = Paul - converted to Christianity and became one of the most influential writers of the New Testament.

Rafa = Healer

Aaron = Moses' brother. People went to him to have him ask God for forgiveness. Remember when he told the scoobies to all make nice and forgive?

Dio = God; and boy does our villiam think he is God.

Natalia = Born on Christmas day. Who was born on Christmas? Jesus? Jesus = Son of God... Natalia is Dios kiddo... just saying

Miriam - Moses' sister. Helped Moses escape death as a baby by placing him in a basket and sending him down the river and then watched Pharohs daughter find him. And convinced the Princess to let her mommy (also the baby's mommy) be the nurse.

Piedad = Pious

Osvaldo = God's Power


 

I would personally prefer Rafael to Aaron any day. Despite the eyeglasses he's more alpha and more sophisticated.

We'll see about the New Girl, but what I'd like to see her do is call Bratgirl on her BS.
 

Thanks so much, Mena. Great summary and lots of spark.

It does seem like we are at a new stage with lots of resorting and rearranging. Like others, I can't help but wonder whether the wedding of Pablo and Luzma will take place. I felt so sorry for Luzma yesterday when, looking so pretty in the dress, she said again how much she hates the circumstances.

I've been so busy these last couple of days that I have had to watch the episode on line and have not had time to comment. I am thrilled that tonight I'm set to watch at the witching hour, like everyone else. Even my little dog Portia is looking forward to a late night viewing of our favorite TN. Now, if we can just stay awake that late!
 

What a great list, Samatha Jean! I love to analyze names, but I haven't been able to make many meaningful connections here. I suppose that would be asking a lot of TN writers, even ones as good as those behind AB.

But I do think we should look for Miriam to show up with a baby in a basket.
 

Traveling Lady - I feel your pain :) I haven;t been able to comment all day and even now I should be doing other things, but just had to stop in and get a few thoughts down:

Chippie's reaction was totally weird. Can't wait to find out why she's all "Que?!" to Pablo getting hitched.

Pobre de Becerra! I told him to watch his back, but then he got stabbed in the gut! Ay! Glad he seemed to be salvado (por el momento) in the avances.

Pobre de Luzma! She's gorgeous, but having her freak about being fat in her wedding dress and break down over how much she hates her situation broke my heart even as it made me smile. Her situation is AWFUL, but somehow the way she complained was adorable because all I can think is how Pablo won't care at all what she's wearing or how she looks in it.

Dio seemed to buy Nat's reason for being in his office and now she knows he's keeping close tabs on her, so that's good. He seemed disappointed in her TN watching (hater), but that's totally in character with his tan ambioso-ness that doesn't have time for such a joyful wasting away of time. Still, I'm somehow sad that he's disappointed, a lil because I don't want her to end up being berated every five seconds like Gussie is.

ITA about the cuteness of Dan and Cam. It made me hit up youtube to check out the earlier capitulos when Dan was Dandres. I LOVE the capitulos 50-60s when Dan would "come home" to Cam's cabana and they'd talk. They're so cute and it such a real couple thing to do. Yet another reason I love this TN - they're both smart and they work out probs that have nothing to do with their relationship together rather than just go on and on about how much they love each other and want to be together and will (honestly, in most TNs I'm like "why? all you ever talk about is your love and how long can that convo last without there being a reason for you guys to love each other like actually liking each other?")

I certainly hope all Rosario has to do it tape convos and Alonso doesn't get her mixed up in anything crazier than that.

I know Dante's glad to hear from Dan, but he seems all smiles when talking to a man who's trying to clear his name of murder and find closure about his dead wife. He and Teresa could be cute though. If they're together though, then do Mariano and Miriam have a thing? Scratch that; Ana would have a baby bro, but how awkward for Cam and Dan to live next door to those two - eck!

LXV - agreed about Aaron. Tots cute, but I don't see Vivi meditating in a semi-closed comunidad. If her name was Amparado or Paz then maybe...

Nice look at the names by the way!

 

I think it odd that anyone would link Mariano and Miriam together. That's the second time I've read that. Why would anyone consider those two as a match?
 

Yep, you have to take those opening credit pictures with a grain of salt. We waited and waited for the bare chested arm wrestling in AdeP and it never happened. What a teaser.
 

No kidding Rosemary, we waited the entire TN to see that scene and it never happened. We sort of even predicted it to happen in different episodes, but they let us down.
 

Cathyx - I actually was only thinking about it in terms of happy/good people being coupled off by the end asTN law seems to dictate. After people started mentioning Teresa and Dante as a couple, M&M were just kind of left out in the cold when I was mentally mapping couples out, so I stuck them together, but then got weirded out by the neighboring ranches thing. Somehow that seems awkward and disturbing for me. Sigh, it's so much easier when the first pareja/o dies off tragically in the beginning of a TN.
 

HellaShelle- "they're both smart and they work out probs that have nothing to do with their relationship together rather than just go on and on about how much they love each other and want to be together and will (honestly, in most TNs I'm like "why? all you ever talk about is your love and how long can that convo last without there being a reason for you guys to love each other like actually liking each other?")"

In TOTAL agreement about that. Most tn couples leave me scratching my head about why they love each other, or if they even like each other!

I don't think it will be easy to just schlep (sp?) Miriam off to anyone else. Unlike Mariano, who has never been in a relationship with Cami, she's actually Daniel's wife and his first love. I honestly can't see how it's going to end if Miriam is alive. In CME they killed off Doc Tatas, and the galan never loved her, just knocked her up. I feel they should have kept her alive, because she wasn't a real threat to the heroine. But Miriam would be a real rival for Dan's love.


 

Cathyx - I actually was only thinking about it in terms of happy/good people being coupled off by the end asTN law seems to dictate. After people started mentioning Teresa and Dante as a couple, M&M were just kind of left out in the cold when I was mentally mapping couples out, so I stuck them together, but then got weirded out by the neighboring ranches thing. Somehow that seems awkward and disturbing for me. Sigh, it's so much easier when the first pareja/o dies off tragically in the beginning of a TN.
 

Thanks Mena! Excellent as always. I love the comments too. It shows how deeply we are all into this TN!

I've watched TNs for almost 10 years and am still amused when they make references to TNs, like Nat did.

Don't know if anyone in this audience watched "Hasta que el Dinero Nos Separe", but many times during the scenes in Rafael's mother's house, the TV was on with "Las Tontas no an al Cielo" in the background. So amusing!
 

LoriLoo- I recapped Dinero. There were often tns on the tv at Rafa's house, not just Tontas. It was fun to figure out what tn they were watching at the moment.
 

My bad about the double post. I thought the robot watcher denied the post the first time around.
 

As long as we are pairing people up, don't forget that Mariano and Teresa had a thing years ago. Also, Dante and Miriam are super close friends, and Dante loved her once but knew that she loved Daniel.

BTW, I'm also in the "Miriam is alive" camp, but don't know how it will be resolved, the Dan/Cam/Miriam thing. I believe Abe has disappeared because he is caring for Miriam someplace..... maybe that family property in the small Chilean village that has been mentioned?
 

Vivi - you are so right. I believe I may also have seen "Sortilegio", or maybe I'm just remembering Jackie Brancamontes...

I named my last kitten Rafa after "Rafael Medina Nunez"! As stupid as it was at times I really loved that TN. I also downloaded several of the songs.
 

RlaO: I haven't watched the opening credits in awhile--this may be gone from them. But there was/is a shot of Leo holding a gun to Padre B's head. That never happened.
 

LoriLoo - LOL that's exactly the TN I was thinking of when commenting on TN couples talking about their love all the time! I saw most of that TN in recent second airing, and while I really got into it, I was like what is keeping these two together? All she does is cry while he runs around putting out one fire after another.

I was intrigued by Victoria's love affair with the much younger Gabriel Soto character. You all were talking about that a while back when discussing "good" older female characters having actual sex lives/drives in TNs and how rare (and wonderful) it is.
 

Ok. Let's look at our pairs and spares...

Current couples we like for the long run: Cami-Dan; Luzma-Pablo; Amanda-Osvaldo; Dorotea-Eluterio (their flirting is cute); Piedad-Hipolito (also some cute flirting)

Couples we want to see broken up: Nat-Yago; Gussy-Dio

Men available for coupling: Mariano; Yago (after he ends it with Nat); Rodolfo; Rafa; Aaron; Dante; Tolentino

Women available for coupling: Vivi; Natalia; Teresa; Iliana; Maria Elena; Irene; Miriam (if she's alive)

Seven free women, for seven free men!

 

Notice I have not re-entered Gussy in the available women pool. Three strikes, you're out Gussy! Sit out the next game on the bench.
 

I think Nat/Rudolfo and Vivi/Rafa should go in the rooting for category. I'm not too invested in the other loose romantic ends, though I could see how Tolentino and Irene could end up together.

I feel bad for Gussie. I don't see anyone for her yet and a fourth marriage seems like a lot.
 

HellaShelle - Gabriel Soto and Danella ??(Victoria) characters saved that TN for me. They were the best part of it but also Roberto, who is a current bad guy in Por Ella.

When I mentioned the stupid TN that I actually loved I meant Hasta que el Dinero. Sortilegio is the one TN where I preferred the bad guys to the good guys!
 

I was just rewatching the eppy and the dialogue in Osvaldo's stabbing scene seems rete-awkward. He repeats everything the police guy says (presumably to let us in Vville know what's up) and then the assailants are like "Esto is un asaulto!" Um, yeah, we can see that. Weird work on the writers' part.
 

Loriloo- The final scene of Dinero is still my favorite tn finale scene. I got tears in my eyes as Rafa and Ale sang that final song. I think I'm going to have to look it up on YouTube right now...

HellaShelle- I felt like the guys who stabbed Os said that just to throw him off the scent. I'm sure it was Dio who sent them.
 

Bratgirl and Yago really deserve each other but I don't think it will happen.

She is sooooo delusional! Didn't she tell her mom (or thought bubbled) that she wasn't leaving the Buenaventura without an Albaran marido?!? Yago hates her and Mariano totally dismisses her.
 

LoriLoo- Daniela Romo played Victoria in that one. And I agree, Roberto's character wasalso intriguing. It's the only time I saw a bisexual character on a TN and I was surprised a how much they explored that theme. They showed he and the other evil guy (forgot his name but he was in LQNPA) in bed together and then discussed how it would affect Roberto's adopting his stepdaughter.

PS: Anyone else wondering what the look was on Hissadora's face when Cayetano abruptly ended their convo?
 

Vivi - was it "Amarte a la Antigua"? That is such a sweet song!!

Back to AB.... I vote for Vivi/Rafa, Nat/Rodolfo, Os/Amanda.
 

LoriLoo- I loved that song too. But the final song was "Di me mi Amor". Start around minute 4:00 here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vyi-Ii6iBLM

 

Thanks Vivi, I'll check it out.

HellaShelle - yes, that is the one and only time I've seen bisexuality even mentioned. There have been several (or many) TNs that have a gay character. I even remember one where a gay man went straight! (La Mujer de Lorenzo)

Roberto's buddy Ulysses was played by our favorite bad boy, Julian Gil.
 

Good coupling list Vivi! We could name the show "7 Brides for 7 Brothers". Oh wait, that's already been done.

Mmmmm, have you ever seen Julian shirtless? Mighty fine, mighty fine.
 

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Vivi, you left out Dante and Isadora. Although I think Isadora will be in prison eventually.
 

Dante's on my list. But Isa and Dio are a match made in hell, and don't need to be included in the list.
 

Cathyx - Dante's in the mix as an available guy. But Hissadora is so out. She's in bed with el Diablo and the only thing she's available for is rotting in prison or dying.
 

Sorry Vivi, didn't see Dante and he's so cute I didn't want him left out. But you forgot that Dan is paired up with Cathyx, so that makes Camila available too.
 

Well, Camila's going to have to share him with you AND with me.
 

If CathyX gets Dan, I want Hipolito. I fell in love with him on CME...
 

Now, now ladies. No pushing and shoving.

Good thing Dan the Man is capaz, no?
 

LoriLoo, we had a lot of fun with Dinero. I'm guessing that you didn't watch it with us because we had a blast with it.

Vivi, by chance, I recapped that last episode. Actually Hombre and I shared the last episode and I got the last half with all the music. Because it was mostly the big wedding, I used a bunch of photos and made links to all the songs. I checked back on it and surprisingly all but one of those links are still holding up. The only one that Youtube has blocked was "Amarte a la Antigua".

I think that Univision is currently reairing Dinero late at night.

Carlos
 

Carlos- I remember that last recap filled with wonderful pics. You and Hombre did a fab job of covering what was basically a concert of our favorite hits from Dinero.
 

Hi Carlos,
No, I was not with you all then. A good friend turned me on to Caray Caray during CME, but I lurked for quite a while.

When Dinero was on I was working at a large winery in Sonoma Valley. A couple of the cellar rat- muy macho guys were also into it. We would talk about it at work in espanol... I got a lot of good practice with my spanish!
 

My goodness Mena--you have quite a following. Thank you for your recap--trying to let you know before the next recap goes up.

That was so sweet of you to offer up your name to Maria Elena--if she turns out to be a good girl. Too bad we probably won't know since tonight Dan 'n Cam jointly realized that with the way things were at the moment it wouldn't be a good idea to hire her. Pablo agreed.

Now, to read the 60 or so comments I didn't get to read earlier.
 

Hey everybody--re New Girl Chippie. Her Que? was cut off pretty quickly as I recall. Maybe there was more to her reaction and it got left on the cutting room floor?
 

Samantha Jean--Thank yo so much for the riff on the names. I guess we owe more to the writers than their just plucking names off the credits of these and other tns and recycling them as well.

How about Hipolito? He's going to come into Piedad's life (if WE have anything to do with it, that is). In both Greek mythology and as a Roman Catholic saint, he didn't come to a very good end. We hope this is not the case here.
 

HellaShelle - Just got to your Nat comment. Nat explained that she didn't have much to do and that's why she was watching the tns. Dio said he would give her her own tv in her office so she could watch as much as she pleased.

I don't think he really has that much for her to do. He just wanted to have her near. To make sure of it he offered her the huge bump in salary and the car.

So, I don't think it was so much being disappointed in her. He's been deprived of being around her growing up (shock) so I don't think he'll be doing any berating--unless he loses his temper and it may not be her fault. We've seen how he can just fly off the handle when something doesn't go right.
 

cathyX & RLO--The opening credits do lie. Remember when we feared for Padre Baldy's life when we saw Leocerdo holding a gun to his head? Nevva happened that way.
 

Apologies, Nanette. You got the answer before I did. As you can see, I'm working my way down the list AND it's late.