Wednesday, February 06, 2013
Amores Verdaderos #63 Wed 2/6/13 ¡Salud! ¡Dinero! ¡Amor! Would snails lie? (the slimy bastards)
Labels: Amores
Thanks for the translation of the poem. Now I want that book of upcoming poems from Valvaneria Bickie lol. I loved the way they showed the Angel's eyes, que romantico, as she was reading it. Those avances are always teasing us. They made it seem that Vikki was going to declare her love to the Angel, lol. Well, she kinda did, didn't she???
I really liked the way you described that scene with Nikki and K-Ho, too funny. The look on K-Ho's face when Nikki said her Daddy would never marry the ho. Too funny. She had the deer in the headlights look.
Loved what Dances did to Leo the horrible, good for him. What did Leo think he could drag her out by the hair. He needs a fork and a cast iron skillet. Glad that Anyballs banned Leo from the building.
I have to say I said the same about Guillo too, he's only a child, doesn't know any better, etc, but I wanted to yell at him. I think Leo needs supervised visits. He is way to horrible to spend time with his son alone.
Liked the nickname for Pauwhiner, PaulaToo, too funny. She is gonna run into Guzmi sooner or later if she is intent on giving Nikki those piano lessons. He'll probably tell her to scram too.
That look on Cris' face when she saw the Angel with K-Ho, too funny. I liked what he did in the office with the similuated cutting of of his head. Cris is gonna hand him his head when she sees him, that's for sure. Sucks to be the Angel.
Thanks to you both for filling me in on the Opalina-Adriana connection. The net of characters in this one is very tightly controlled, isn't it?
Kendra getting hold of Angelic seed? ewwww. I hope not.
One thing I found striking in this episode (and actually we've seen this before) -- Aníbal's kindness to Beatriz. Maybe she reminds him of PaulaToo way back when she was just Paula. She was a rotten wife and mother but she must have had her charms. Whatever the reason, Bea brings out the best in Aníbal.
I think we're going to see a late in life pregnancy for Vicki. The actress is 48 or something, so it's not beyond reason, especially if we are to assume she's several years younger. I know a woman who was her mother's first and only child—she gave birth at age 45. We don't even need to tighten our beanies too that much to accept this as a possibility, even though it's not very common in real life.
I enjoyed Leo the Low's humiliation at the hands of Salsa-Dude, but we know there will have to be more! Leo will not go quietly into the night. He's going to have to create pain and destruction for all parties involved.
The scene between Bea and Guillo was very touching and heartbreaking. I'm not even that mad at the boy—the dad is a master at indoctrinating him and manipulating him. The poor kid! Glad that Bea's tears finally made him realize that maybe his dad's lies didn't all quite add up.
Also enjoyed seeing Kendra the Ho's face fall when Nikki obliviously says that naturally her dad would never marry the low-class trampy ho that he's temporarily hooked up with. And my opinion of Nikki raised a bit when we saw how glowingly she talked about her mom—beautiful, educated, etc. Nikki is a bruja on the outside, and a nightmare and a mess, but deep inside she's not all bad. (But we knew that already!)
Considering that Big Angel would otherwise be left with no "sangre de mi sangre," I wondered if the writers would provide a solution. It seems like they plan to!
And from the first line on you continued to shine: Dr. K-skank and the delicious
" And then, God help us, poetry flows from her lips like water eddying down a well-plumbed toilet"
And your Spanish lessons always delight. I now have Casa de Citas tucked into my bag of words I shall ever remember but never have need to use (such is the vocabulary one learns on telenovelas.)
PS: The patio was getting kind of chatty last night so you may not have heard the second part of my statement: "NovelaMaven is always wrong. It's nice not to be the *only* one. I *always* screw stuff up.
Vikki probably had Nikki between age 25 and 30, so it is entirely possible for Vikki to become pregnant again.
I loved that look on Kendra's face, when Nikki said that married men never marry their mistresses.
Paula has been dying to meterse the Balvanera mansion, and has finally found a way with the Nikki piano lessons. That should be a fun scene (not!) when Guzman sees her.
I wanted to hug my TV screen when Salsero showed Leo the way out. ;o)
NovelaMaven: You modulated the heat of this to perfection. You fanned the flames, carefully stoking the heat yet lowered the termperature to a gentle sizzle when needed. So many great lines: "PaulaToo -- Too self-involved, Too loud, Too histrionic, Too Two-faced and much Too much make-up], "desultory chord" and "Madame Tussauds Wax Museum". Your phrases and humor complimented every single scene. My favorite? Why "Ikki's" of course!! This was wonderful (and loved the word nerd)...
So the Angel will have a son. I was happy to hear that and thrilled for Vicky as well (I am "expecting" she will be the mother but no spoiler). I loved Vicky's "poem" and her scene with the Angel was lovely. Elvira, their having a child together is totally within the realm of possibility for me as well.
I had absolutely no idea what Opalina was "reading". Snails? Well, Okaaayyy...
I was disappointed we weren't treated to Salsero throwing Leo out of the building and doing a salsa victory dance all over Leo's sorry butt. I can't recall ever seeing a more intimidating character (forgive me, I know I keep repeating this point but he frightens me). The thought of what he would do to Bea if he ever got her alone makes me ill...
Now if I saw my husband in a billboard ad my first question might be why didn't he tell me. I might have been upset but don't think I would have instantly grown horns and get all "hulkish" (as you noted NM)... Take a chill pill. Please.
Madelaine, ITA that the preview of JA making the motion of "cutting" his throat was a good one. He knows he is in for it and of course, should have told her as soon as it happened. I was disappointed they chose to use the Kendo ad but realize that using the one with Vicky would have sent Cris into an even further downward spiral.
Guillo has been brainwashed by a master manipulator. The poor kid. Bea kept explaining things to him in her gentle way and was relieved she was finally rewarded with a hug. The kid is confused and upset and who can blame him? Vivi, I have cried a few times during this and most (if not all) have involved scenes eith Bea.
Wonderful NovelaMaven. Thank you.
Diana
So Opalina tells Adriana about her daughter being alive, and then she tells Angel about having a son with a woman other than his wife... so interesting that Opalina is the same 'vidente' for both predictions.
word verif: oldrync
I guess it reads our posts!
I am still basking in the glow of your approval of the Spanish lesson. [Yay! Our Spanish teacher likes it!]
Elvira:
Thank you! I agree with you that a pregnancy at Vikki's age is not fodder for tabloids (Mexican Woman Gives Birth at 44!). Still, I was surprised by the direction of the STORY. I just didn't see it coming. But after reading your comment, I'm starting to wrap my arms around the plot line. (Now if it doesn't happen, I'll be disappointed. I've already started knitting the blue booties and blankets. And there's no way I'm sending them to the K-skank.)
I have it on the best authority that Anita is stocking "Salseros de peluche" in the Puchis Department. (That's one way to keep the fingerprints off the flatscreen.)
Oh, thumbs up on the paragraph sign. ✌ (That is the world's tiniest "V" for victory, in case you were wondering.)
Shucks, Diana. Gracias. I couldn't really tell what Opalina was throwing at first -- pebbles? bones? but eventually, she and Angel referred to them as "caracoles" and then it made sense. Well, you know what I mean -- it made sense the way any of it makes sense.
Marta:
I'm hoping for a bit of a 'happiness make-over' for Adriana when Liliana is officially back in her life.
Vivi:
Thanks so much for the timeline. And you put it very well -- it's hard to picture Vikki and JA running around after a baby (especially when Vikki's first baby is still in diapers. Oh, those weren't diapers on Nikki? Sorry.) :-)
NovelaMaven---Thanks for your time and effort in todays recap.
I loved your Dr. K-skank. That really had me laughing.
Loved to see Leo the low get taken down last night but I fear for Bea.
Salsero or Francisco will not always be with her to protect her from that monster.
Does anyone know what the conversation between Bea and her son was last night.
Guillo was pretty tough on his mommy after school. That was hard to watch. I'm glad that everything is ok at least for now. The future?
When Cris saw the billboard, she was instantly transformed. I was hoping that enough money would be made from the Meta*Mart and fair to at least start construction on a new Little House on the Prairie but I am becoming fearful that Christina and Jose Angel are soon to be finished as a Married couple.
So sad.
the gringo
I don't consider what I found to be a huge spoiler, but don't do the search yourself if you don't want to know anything. I figured that since they have specifically mentioned his name, then there is a reason for it. I will say no more.
I see that Sara quoted my favorite line from last night. Toilet Bowl and no chocolates were hurled.
NvMv, well, what could have been a Que?Que?Que? for Big A and the hijo varon, it turned out to be a big Que?Que?Que? for the folks out on the Patio. Brilliantly done, word smithing taken to new heights.
What a shocker, but I can totally see Angel having a baby cause there's still a lot of kid in him and he's great with Lili. I can see him and Lili teaching the boy Aikido. Even though several of my cousins went to the doc expecting menopause news and came home with baby news instead -- the oldest cousin was 48 -- I'm still wondering if the baby will not be Vickie's by birth. Having a baby now just doesn't suit who she is to me, but you never know...
Cris's little note to Lili was quite sad -- going to look for work cause I can't take feeling alone and enclosed like in prison and the dinner's in the fridge. Then she comes home with no job but still a lot of pluck about finding one. I've got my fingers-crossed that the Angel's poster won't do her in.
How stupid is Guzmancito? Really? He doesn't even walk Nikki to the door of the therapist? That's not even a good security practice.
Madelaine - “Leo needs supervised visits.” Absolutely. Don’t see any other way for Bea to counter Leo's brainwash attempts.
Love the way Anibal (and, of course, Salsero!) was protective of Bea. That must be what Candelaria saw in him to make her fall in love.
Hmmm, so it looks like Angel may be the first to figure out the baby switch.
Tees on the Square has the following, 100% all cotton, t-shirts, guaranteed to shrink seductively.
Don't look a gift cross in the mouth
OKAY! Captas?
Neta, Nikki...presiona el boton y borrate tu misma, mijita. Captas?
That ship has sailed. ¿Neto?
I’m Available
I belong to the Nikki Support Group
Stay on your side Coloring
Poor Cande’s Dead [or is she]
“…well Carlos is always right…”
Here comes the airplane
Don’t Trust the Furry One
That manly prize *cough* Anibal
What is this? Vaudeville?
Who’s Your Daddy?
Gaius Iulius Caesar is rolling in his grave now
Bodyguard Widow
I’m an Ahhhhhhtist
We’re just friends
Lalalalalalala, I can't hear you
The Ikki's are in the building
Psychiatric Help 10¢ - Dr. K-Skank is In
Shhhh! Reading Snails
About the conversation between Guillo and Beatriz --
He repeats the stuff Leo told him: his mom doesn't love them and she's going to leave them for her new boyfriend, just like Paula left Bea and Uncle Francisco when they were kids.
Bea asks where he got that from and he finally acknowledges it came from his dad.
Bea explains that she and his dad are done as a couple because Leo "failed" as a husband; he treated her badly and without respect. The three will never live together as a family.
Leo, however, will always be Guillo's father and will never stop loving him. And she will always be his mother and never stop loving him.
He listens to her words but doesn't soften until she breaks down and sobs. Then he falls into her arms.
"And then, God help us, poetry flows from her lips like water eddying down a well-plumbed toilet:"
HmpfffffffffffhegzrqewzrqLOOOOOOL!
*laughs hard and loud*
Hilarious! I don't really like poems, and I especially hate the ones Valvanera Bickie barfs up in every second episode. I was nauseated during that sickeningly corny scene.
Anita:
I love the T-shirts. :) And thanks for including my silly ideas.
***
Guys, you'll love the next episode.
Niecie: if I was Cris, I would've gone mad already. Poor thing must feel so useless. (Sí, I'm a Bicke/Arri fangirl para siempre, but every once in a while I can sit with half a butt at Mrs. Hulk's table too, ooookay?) She's a good cook, she's candid and she's pretty. I could imagine her having a TV show or something like that.
Still keeping my notebook of phrases you have been providing.
My favorite expression of last night was simply, "Me alegro,"
which Anibal said to Bea when she told him that she and her husband are separated. It was quick and it was funny to me, but he meant it, and as others have said, he treats her well.
Last night was the second reference to a "varon."
The first was when Salsero asked JA if he ever thought of having one, and now this. In my opinion, as I stated before, the varon is in the grave, and I think that the snails got a little mixed up - and the other woman is Adriana.i.e ..her baby's alleged tomb, but his child is buried there.
Of course, it's not out of the question that he could have a child with Vicky, but if she is 43 now, she would be close to 44 by the time this all gets resolved and 45 when she would deliver. My niece had children at 41 and 43, and a friend's mother had one at 48.
Enjoy all the comments, but if I don't write for awhile, I may be reading and lurking...muchas cosas que hacer - no health problems - just need to
stop lounging around so much.
All the best!
I keep thinking there should be TOP TOP jokes:
TOP TOP.
¿Quién?
Casa.
¿Casa quién?
Cásate conmigo, Guzmancito (Out pops Polita)
[Doesn't quite work in translation but:
Knock Knock
Who's there?
Casa.
Casa who?
Marry me, G!]
Or:
TOP TOP
¿Quién?
Cara.
¿Cara quién?
Caracoles vemos, corazones no sabemos.
(We see snails, we don't know hearts / a play on the saying: Caras vemos, corazones no sabemos -- We see faces, we don't know hearts.)
That is so brilliant considering Lilliana's talents, NovelaMaven
Gracias, amiga. I was afraid I had gone TOO far. :-)
Sara:
I'm glad you and Niecie picked up on that line. I almost used a paragraph heading -- Is there a gardener in the house? -- but decided it was more fun to leave the Adriana/Liliana (the Anas vs the Ikky's) implicit.
Novela maven - thanks so much. I'm so glad you joined ther recapping team because this TN is perfect for your style of snark.
Loved the PaulaToo description (right on) and the comparison of Vickie's recitation of poetry to a well plumbed toilet, lol!
"And then, God help us, poetry flows from her lips like water eddying down a well-plumbed toilet..."
The look on Betty's face as Nikki apologized was priceless. I don't think that either the character or the actress understood a word she said.
I really like the verbs topar
and toparse and suspect that they derive from the noun topo
which means mole.
Anita,
“…well Carlos is always right…”
tee shirts for everyone...
just put it on my tab...
Carlos
it was a most touching moment.
I am half way through the comments, will finish them later tonight.
the gringo
Carlos:
I really like the verbs topar
and toparse and suspect that they derive from the noun topo
which means mole.
According to the Diccionario* on the Royal Academia Española (RAE) website, the verb "topar" or "toparse" is onomatopoeic, from the sound "top" made when one object bumps into another.
On the other hand:
The noun "topo" meaning mole comes from the Vulgar Latin "talpus" which is derived from Latin "talpa" for the same animal.
In other words, nada que ver. Neta. Okay???
*This great, free resource is available at www.rae.es. You can also navigate to RAE from wordreference.com from the definición tab of any Spanish word.
P.S. Hey guys,
RAE is all in Spanish so it probably won't help you if you are just starting out. But wordreference.com has English to Spanish and Spanish to English entries and is also available as a free app for your phone.
Sooo, when a mole tops into something what sound do you suppose it makes?
Have you received your tee shirt I just bought for you yet?
Look down and read what it says...
Carlos
TOP TOP
¿Quién?
Carlos.
¿Carlos quién?
Carlosisalwaysright!
Hello. We should have just started there y ya.
I recently decided to more formally push my Spanish studies. I've been a complete slug in the last 18 months and haven't hardly opened a Spanish study book, or done anything to further my understanding. Nothing, other than telenovelas and any kind of word search I might do to help me understand telenovelas.
Thanks to this consistent telenovela addiction, not only can I "kind of sort of" slog my way through an entire episode with enough understanding to pretty much "get" what's going on by just listening alone (though I miss details aplenty) my reading comprehension is much better too.
The main area of concern is my grammar and writing—nonexistent. I'm afraid to write the simplest sentence for fear I'll butcher the language.
ANYWAY, I decided to enroll in an online course (which looks pretty good) and they had me do a "placement test" to gauge my level of Spanish. This involved me selecting right grammar choices for sentences (as if!) as well as do tests on reading comprehension and (shudder) listening comprehension.
But even though I have many pathetic gaps in my knowledge, despite all of this, I got an INTERMEDIATE on the placement test!!!! No puede ser!!!! I fully deserve "beginner" or maybe "advanced beginner" at best.
I am starting the course as "beginner" just because I need to fill in gaps.
But truly, the telenovelas have kept what little Spanish I had studied formally intact, and built on that. A lot. And with no effort from me, other than planting my behind in front of the TV every day. It's been fantastic.
Elvira- felicitaciones!
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