Saturday, March 23, 2013

Amores Verdaderos #93 Fri 3/22/13 Big Boys Do Cry; An Unexpected Engagement

 

Good Evening Ladies and Gentleman. We have a really great epi this evening. We have secrets and lies all that is missing is the video tape, and we have a surprising development. So sit back with your Baileys , relax and join me on the Patio as I dish the latest on our myriad cast of characters.

We open this epi with Cris and the Angel in Angel's room talking about Angel quitting his job, Cris doesn't want that. Cris tells Angel he is her whole life and the kiss that wasn't really a kiss, just a forehead smooch and a cheeky smooch.

Next we have Guzmancito and Pau and she wants back in his life, but she is still dead to him. He can't forgive her for what she has done, Angel and Cris come in, but go right back out. Pau tries to get Guzmancito to understand, but he isn't having it and she goes, while our wonderful Guzmancito cries his tears and we on the Patio, especially Victoria from Texas, wants to wipe those tears off his face, *sigh*.

Angel and Cris are back in the bodyguard's quarters and Cris is thinking maybe Pau and Guzmancito can make it up. Be son and mother again. Angel doesn't think so. Cris wonders if Guzmancito knows that the Don is his Mama's lova. Angel tells her to shut it already, the walls have ears round there and he doesn't want Guzmancito or anyone else to overhear that! Guzmancito happens to walk in just about that time and turns around to go back out, but Angel calls him back and Cris is gonna go wait in the kitchen.

Guzmancito and Angel have a bro convo and the Angel wants him to have a seat. Guzmancito covers his face with his hands and we just know he is crying. Angel tells him they are like brothers, he can tell him anything. Angel tells him he heard him fight with his Mama Pau. Angel also tells Guzmancito that sometimes we just wanna run away. Angel tells Guzmancito he had his Mama, and he loved her very much and she isn't here anymore. He wants Guzmancito to look at him, and when Guzmancito uncovers his face, the tears are just streaming like a river. Angel tells Guzmancito that he can fight with anyone he wants to, but please not with the woman that gave him birth, his Mama. Now Angel gives Guzmancito some advice. He wants Guzmi to go talk to his Mama Pau, hug her, tell her he loves her. She's his Mama! Guzmi just can't, not after twenty years of abandonment from her, he just can't forgive her and cries his eys out. The Angel gets up and gives him a big ole bro hug and tells him to cry, to let it all out, it is manly to cry! Guzmancito thanks the Angel and tells him he is like a Papa to him and thanks him. See Big Boys DO cry.

Pau has left the house and Adri is runnin' after her and calls her name. Pau by the way is dry, no soggies. Adri scared Pau by kinda sneaking up behind her like that. Adri wants to talk to the Pau. Pau thanks her for not giving her away to Ms Vikki. Adri tells the Pau she did that for Ms Vikki so she wouldn't suffer and also because Pau told her what she knew about Lucia. Now they are even. Adri doesn't owe her anything else. Adri's patience has a limit! Pau informs Adri it isn't what she is thinkin'. She comes to the house to see her son, and not the Don. Son, what son, Adri wants to know? Guzmancito of course. She is the mother of Guzmancito, Nikki's bodyguard! Dun, dun, dun!!!!

Angel and Cris are now in the Balvanera Kitchen talking about Guzmi. Angel tells Cris that Guzmi, who he loves like a bro, saw the Pau in the piano room. Cris realizes what a mistake she made by getting the Pau the job here. Cris really thinks they can make it up, the Pau and Guzmi right, and she doesn't want the Angel to be mad at her anymore. Angel says he is done being mad. She doesn't want him to be mad at her, cause he'll push her aside and then she'll die, she'll just die, he is her whole life after all. Big kiss on the lips this time, and Cris sees Ms Vikki come into the room and tries to prolong that kiss, but the Angel breaks it off. Ms Vikki greets Cris, and oh, looky here, Cris brought some candy from Cozumel for Ms Vikki, how sweet. Ms Vikki asks how the trip was, and Cris says fine, went with Kendho to the Fashion Show, didn't get to see Cozumel, wasn't there long enough, goes to leave cause she doesn't want to bother anyone, gets a kiss from the Angel and goes. Once Cris is gone, Ms Vikki tells Angel she is pleased things are working out with Cris. The Angel tells her not so much. Ms Vikki is like Que the Hell? They looked like they were getting along fine. The Angel says the relationship between him and Cris will neva be the same. Is it that "other woman" is what Ms Vikki wants to know. Yes, the Angel tells her it is "that woman".

So we have a scene with the Don, languishing in his bed, he had that infarto, ya know. Anyhoo, it is Nikki and the Boy Toy in there with him. The Boy Toy Roy is acting like he owns the place. The Don thanks Nikki for the presents they got him and Nikki understands he has gotta have his rest. The Boy Toy tells him to cheer up and Nikki tells her Don Abuelo to get some rest and kissies him and he loves her back. So after Nikki and the Boy Toy leave, The Don says to himself, that Nikki is the only one that beleives in him. His daughters turned out to be very harsh judges. Hmmmm, wonder why?????

Pau and Adri are now sitting on a park bench and the Pau has given Adri a bit of history. She has been 'splain' to Adri why Guzmi is so cold to her. Adri can see why, her Don Daddy had a mistress, and she never forgave him for that. Does Ms Vikki know this, Adri wants to know? The Pau tells Adri that neither Ms Vikki or Guzmi knows she was the amante and Ms Vikki only knows part of the story and not all of it. The Pau doesn't want to be judged and Adri can't beleive that the Pau has so many secrets and how can she live with herself? The Pau says they aren't so different. Adri is trying to get her daughter back, same as the Pau trying to get her son back. For the love of Dios, please don't ban the Pau from the house! Adri is conflicted cause she'll be betraying her Mama's memory and Ms Vikki, her sissy. So the Pau wants to strike a deal with Adri. Let the Pau try to get more info on Lucia, to see if the Don will spill anything, but it takes time. He isn't going to fork over this info anytime soon. Adri feels too much time has been wasted, she wants an answer in a week, in other words she'll give the Pau a week. Besides if Ms Vikki eva finds out that the Pau is the amante she'll kick the Pau to the curb and if Guzmi ever finds out the Pau is the amante of the Don, he'll neva forgive her! Dun, Dun, Dun!!!!

The Angel and Ms Vikki are still discussing the "situation" of the Angel. Ms Vikki gives the Angel some advice and tells him he knows how to fix his relationship with his wife, he knows what to do. The Angel starts to say something but Ms Vikki cuts him off and tells him it's just crazy to leave a marriage of twenty years, just to have an affair. She isn't meddling she says. He thinks it is great she doesn't want to meddle, but he doesnt' want to talk to her about it and to just drop it for their sake and he goes. Ms Vikki thinks to herself that the Angel isn't gettin' along with his wife cause it is that woman's fault! Tomi comes in the kitchen and hears the tale end of that convo with Ms Vikki and herself. Tomi wants to know what Ms Vikki is going on about? Vikki tells her its all about the Angel's feelings for that Opalina woman, that's her name, right? Right???? Yeah, says Tomi but hey, they are only friends, no benefits, just friends, and besides she reads the shells. Ms Vikki looks like Que Que What??? Tomi says she wants to get in touch with Opalina so she can learn to read shells and then she can tell Ms Vikki all about it! Ms Vikki is looking like, what did I just hear???? Hmmmm........

Angel has gone back to the bodyguard quarters and Guzmi is still there and the Angel asks how he is doing? Better, he's better. Angel wants to talk to Guzmi so they have a little chat, about Lili. Angel heard that Guzmi was at his house last night, with Lili! What is going on there? Guzmi assures him he thinks of Lili like a little sis, nothing more. Angel, big mouth, tells Guzmi exactly how Lili feels about him. She likes him more than a friend, like a man, and doesn't think of Guzmi as her bro. Guzmi assures the Angel he doesn't want anything from Lili but her friendship, nothing more, nothing less. Angel says he is assured now, but was worried when Guzmi went over there the night before and never came back. Guzmi tells him he only went over there to give Betty some pepper spray, the anti-leo detterant doncha know! Betty wasn't there, but he stayed to talk to Lili for a bit and as for where he was last night, he ain't sayin'. Angel can't beleive he won't tell him where he was the night before, does it have to do with the bodyguard code of discretion, maybe. Yeah, something like that. Angel can't beleive it, they are like bros, heck he told him he was like his Papi, that is so messed up! He really doesn't want to know the particulars of last night, but hey, Nikki came looking for him last night! So the Angel teases poor Guzmi and tells him, he can't tell him because of that body guard discretion code, so there. Guzmi wants to know already, when Ms Vikki comes in and interrupts. Guzmi wanted to talk to Ms Vikki, solo, so the Angel goes. Ms Vikki thinks Guzmi wants to talk about his Mama, nah, not so much, it's about Nikki. Ms Vikki starts to panic. She thinks maybe Nikki is visiting the procelin throne again or her health has taken a turn for the worst, but that isn't it. Guzmi tells Ms Vikki it's Boy Toy he wanted to talk about. Boy Toy is an idiot. Ms Vikki wants him to have some respect. Guzmi tells Ms Vikki that the Boy Toy keeps making comments about Nikki's weight, and Ms Vikki doesn't think the Boy Toy knows anything about Nikki's problem. But Guzmi keeps at it and says that the Boy Toy gave Nikki a scale, and if this boy is her future SIL, it's not helping Nikki's recovery. Ms Vikki sees the point, thinks the Boy Toy is reckless and even if he doesn't know about Nikki's problem, it's putting pressure on Nikki not to gain weight. So Ms Vikki is going to talk to the Boy Toy.

We are now at Cris and Lili's and Cris tells Lili she didn't know how violent Santino is! Lili is like what? So Cris tells her what happened with Kendho and how Santino almost hit Kendho! Cris tells Lili that if she hadn't come in, when Kendho was being pulled by the hair by Salsero, she would have been dead. Lili thinks they should tell Betty. Cris isn't so sure. She doesn't want to be seen as a gossip, but she also doesn't want to see Betty end up with another leo the low. Lili has a flashback about Betty telling her that the low one raped her. Lili thinks this is tough but is worried that Salsero is just like leo.

Nikki is on the new scale in her room, thinking her weight is impossible when her Mama comes in and takes that scale right away from her. Ms Vikki says she is taking it and will bring this up with Nikki's therapist. Well, Nikki needs that scale, poor girl is addicted to that scale. Ms Vikki tells Nikki she loves her very much and wants her to get better, and not be obessed with the scale or her weight. Now Nikki is very pithed and tells her Mama she regrets telling her about her bulimia. Now, not only does her Mama watch her, but everyone else does too, and she is sick of it. Just cause they watch her, does she think that will make her better. Ms Vikki is in tears and wishes she could be a better Mama to Nikki and to trust her she is only doing this for her own good. So Nikki is really pithed and says her Mama has no idea what is good for her and she is sick of this and wants to move out! Nikki really thinks her Mama wants to be rid of her so she can have some peace! That's it, isn't it???

Guzmi is in the hall and encounters the Boy Toy talking on the phone to one of his chippies. The Boy Toy tells the Chippie he wants to meet her, when can they meet and to meet him like he likes the delicious girl! Yuck! Guzmi overhears the end of that convo. Guzmi asks where Nikki is and the Boy Toy tells him in her room, but since Guzmi is right there, why doesn't he earn his pay and get the Boy Toy a glass of water, with ice, make it snappy as he snaps his fingers at Guzmi like he is a lowly servant. Guzmi reminds the Boy he doesn't work for him. The Boy thinks that's not a good attitude for a tacky bodyguard and Guzmi tells him that if Nikki is lookin' for him, he'll be in the kitchen. Oh, but the Boy hasn't dismissed him yet, doncha know! So Guzmi unleashes himself on him, where is Balzac during this, I'd like to know. Anyhoo, Guzmi doesn't have to ask him and The Boy wants to know what his problem is? Well the problem is the Boy. He treats Nikki like crap, he's an idiot, may be good at tennis but not good with Nikki, he can't keep talking about her weight, cause that's just stupid. The Boy wants to know if Guzmi is callin' him stoopid, well he is gonna wipe that smile right off Guzmi's face, so he goes to hit our Guzmi, who is way too fast for that Boy and grabs his wrist and bends it, while the Boy is on his knees beggin' for help. He is screamin' like a girl, when Vikki comes down the stairs and wants to know what the heck is going on here? So the Boy milks this for all it's worth, about his poor pitiful hand, and Ms Vikki wants to know why Guzmi did this. He could have broken the Boy's arm, sniff, sniff. So Guzmi says he was defending himself from the Boy and the Boy turns that around and says he was only asking for a glass of water, quite nicely, and Guzmi told him he wasn't the maid. The Boy is offended by his hurting wrist cause he wants them to know that wrist is worth millions. Ms Vikki wants to go to the home office with the Boy so they can talk. They go to go, but the Boy goes to get his cellphone and stares daggers at Guzmi. After they go, Guzmi says the Boy is a coward and a cry baby, lol.

Ms Vikki and the Boy are in the home office and he is just a whinin' bout that wrist. Ms Vikki wants to know if he'd like some anti-inflammatory or a bandage? He just wants some ice and he wants Guzmi fired. Ms Vikki tells him to calm down. Guzmi almost broke his wrist and his hands are his tools so to speak!

Lili and Cris are still talking but this time about Cris' trip, the beach, shampoo bottles she jacked from her room, the slippers yadda yadda when there is a knock on the door. They ask who it is and it's the Pau of course, come to pay a little visit. Pau asks how the trip was for Cris she loved it but please have a seat she needs to tell the Pau something. Lili asks her if she is really gonna tell the Pau. Yes, she is. She thinks the Pau ought to know something and right away the Pau thinks it has something to do with Guzmi.

Kendho is on her bed, snacking and not on the FF, jus' sayin', when she gets those pics by email, you know the ones from Cozumel with Cris and Andre and she chortles how she lovesss when things work out her way. Dun, dun, dunnnn......

Ms Vikki is so explaining to Roy about Guzmi taking care of Nikki cause she is sick. The Boy didn't know she was sick, ya think? So Ms Vikki explains that Nikki has bulimia, and the Boy actully smacks his head and says now he gets it, so much makes sense now. So Ms Vikki pulls some pics of bulimia patients and has him look at them. Seems this was an ad with a model that had bulimia and people were meant to see what the disease looked like. He gets it now. Ms Vikki also explained to them, how bulimia patients are obsessed about not gaining weight. Ms Vikki wants his help. Not to push Nikki to be skinny but just give her love and attention. He gets it now and how the scale present was so not the right thing to give Nikki. Ms Vikki has to tell him the scale made it worse, but now The Boy gets it. Ms Vikki also tells the Boy not to tell Nikki she told him. The FF comes in and interrupts. Ms Vikki tells the FF that she was telling the Boy about Nikki's bulimia, and the Boy is gonna go now. He remarks he always thought this was like his home and he was sooo right! He even gives the FF a hug. FF sends his regards to the Boy's parents. The Boy goes and now. The FF wants to know why Ms Vikki told the Boy about Nikki's bulimia. Well, Ms Vikki is mad cause FF told the Don all about Nikki's bulimia and she told the Boy cause he didn't know, bought a scale for Nikki and was pressuring her to be skinny. Well FF is pithed cause this could be a game changer and the Boy may not want to take Nikki off his hands, er, get rid of his problem, er marry Nikki! He always wanted the Boy for a SIL. Pot meet Kettle, jus' sayin. Well Ms Vikki doesn't care about that, she only wants Nikki's well being and if he dumps her, he dumps her, cause then they'll know he doesn't love their Nikki. FF is not pleased!

Betty and Guillo and Santino have arrived at Imperia's home (Santino's madrina) for dinner and it's fried chicken. Guillo is very excited about that but Imperia has a surprise for him and they go leaving Santino and Betty alone. Betty wants to know what the occasion is. Just something really important.

Back at Cris' and Cris is about to tell Pau this has to do with Betty and she isn't sure she ought to tell her. She just has to talk to Betty and tell her what type of man Salsero really is and Cris tells her what happened with Kendho and Salsero.

Betty and Santino and Santino tells him this is hard for him, cause he never said this to a woman before. Betty says but you didn't say anything yet. This is so hard for Santino to say. She removes his sunglasses and asks him to ask away already!

Well, Pau wants Betty to dump Salsero already! She doesn't want another leo to be with Betty, and this would be such a tragedy. This can't happen again.

Betty just wants Santino to say already and he finally asks her the most anticipated question in the world, "Would you marry me"!!!!!!!!!! We'll get back to them.

Ooooo, la la, we have a little visit with the Angel and Tomi. She has come to the Angel's room for Opalina's number and she is eyeing our Angel up and down, with his tight fitting T-shirt and his form fitting pants, ok, ok, I can sigh, can't I??? Right, back to the recap. The Angel gives her the number and Tomi is so happy to be learning those shells and she goes, and when she does the Angel thinks back to what Opalina told him, not to fight his destiny and not to fight his heart about what it has wanted for a long time.

Santino and Betty are still sitting on the couch, and Betty just doesn't know what to say! He knows she can't really marry him like tomorrow, or anything, but he is considering himself engaged to her as of this moment and will wait till she gets divorced and then he wants her to be Beatriz Guzman Roca, what does she say? Yes, she tells him yes as big tears roll out of her eyes, but these are tears of joy! So he pulls out two rings and she can't wear hers, but he is going to wear his. He is over the moon and so is Betty!

In the other room, we have Imperia reading a book to Guillo and he is so excited that Imperia gives him the book. He is over the moon.

Ms Vikki has brought breakfast to Nikki in her room. Nikki is in a much better mood and apologizes to her Mami and tells her she loves her Moms. Ms Vikki is like same to you. They talk about Roy didn't catch what she said, but they also talk about Guzmi and how Nikki needs to treat him better I think. Nikki is very accomadating and promises to be nicer.

The Don is still lounging in his bed when he gets a phone call, and it is the last person on earth, he expects. Viewerville is surprised too, but then again, why should we be surprised? It's the Odious one calling the Don. She is gloating over his infarto. She is just soooo surprised he didnt' die. NOT!!! She could care less about him and as a matter of fact wishes he HAD died. The Don is just shocked, I tell you shocked, that this woman has no compassion. She'll get her revenge she says. The Don doesn't really care what she thinks. Click. Odio is ranting and raving about The Don after the hangup and Estefano has come in at the tail end of this convo and thinks that the Odious one is just pithed at the Don because well, he did dump her, doncha know. Estefano thinks she needs just a smidgen of compassion. The Odio doesn't want to hear it and continues her rant against the Don and his family and she is ranting sooo hard that her perfectly couiffed hair is coming apart and flying over her face. What a "luke" that is! Perfect for her I must say.

The Pau and Cris are still in the living room at Cris' and Betty should be home soon. Speaking of Betty, she comes in with Guillo and Santino and Cris hustles Guillo off to bed so the Pau and Betty can talk. Now Santino did greet the Pau with outstretched hand but the Pau turns her back to him and is extremely rude to him. Betty walks Santino to the door and tells Santino she doesn't know what is up with the Pau, and she apologizes to Santino, no worries from Santino. As soon as Santino goes, Betty rounds on her Mama Pau and wants to know what the hell that was all about! The Pau tells her she doesn't want her to end up with another leo! For goodness sakes open your eyes and see that Santino is just as bad as the leo. Betty tells her Mama Pau she is so wrong about that! The Pau doesn't agree and thinks that Betty needs to see a therapist. Well, Betty is so not having that, and tells her Mama Pau that when the time is right, Betty is so marrying Santino. Shock and awe from the Pau and here is where we end this epi.

Avances Esta Lunes:

The Angel cries and Ms Vikki cries. They admit they love each other but not TO each other, *sigh*

Tune in Lunes to find out what else happens!

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Hey Y'all the recap is up. Hope you enjoy : )


Shout out to Victoria in Texas for the wiping off the tears from Guzmi's face : )
 

Thanks Madelaine---Great recap to start Saturday with.
Love your Dun, dun,dun!!! accents in your recaps. They add to the suspense of the moment.
Your pot meets kettle line had me chuckling--that was so true.

We don't have to worry about Guzman's hurt feelings, Victoria in Texas will chear him up.

Question---Is it Big Angel that is going to be the home breaker, not Cris? And then that innocent picture that doesn't look innocent.

What I would like to know is how Boy Toy Roy will crash and burn? He is going to be super nice to Nikki now that he knows about her eating disorder.

Anonymous 3-22 7:06 EDT---Of course
I remember Sherlyn in "Clase 406"
Sherlyn was adorable but also tough
She stood up to Anahi in defence of her teacher. Yes, a young and handsome Rulli was one of the teachers along with Salsa Dude, however, I do not remember Leonardo/Julio Camejo in the novela
the gringo
 

that's cheer him up---sorry
the gringo
 

Thanks for this super-guau recap, Madelaine.

Is anyone here feeling a little more charitable toward Roy since he seemed genuinely distressed about his behavior toward Nikki?:

"the Boy actually smacks his head and says now he gets it... He gets it now... He gets it now...but now The Boy gets it."

OK, maybe he was making plans to get together with the Chippie, but still...He gets it now.

By the way, I got the idea that Chippie's name was actually Delicia which reminded me of a happier time for Luzma (AB) when her name was actually Delicia(LldA). OK, she got raped in that as well, but at least it was a better part that utilized her skills much more effectively.

José Ángel has me confused right now. Is he disappointed that Victoria didn't recognize that she is the woman he was confessing about and not Opalina? Is he about to dump Cristina?

And Opalina seems to be telling him that resistance is futile so just go with the flow...que será será.

I'm liking Odette (that call to Aníbal was just what he needed to cheer him up) a lot more these days and doesn't she look good in yellow? Now maybe since she is about to meet up with Jean Marie, maybe she'll rescue (not quite the applicable word considering his present situation) Balzac (heh heh) for her son.

Carlos
 

MADELAINE- I just about jumped out of my seat as I read the beginning of the recap. Definitely thanks for the shout out. You've observed I'm definitely a Guzmancito admirer. Watching Guzmancito hurt so, I definitely would have wiped those tears lol. Again I can't help but remind everyone that Vida2 is right once again, A beautiful crier he is.

I can't help but be so happy for Salsero and Beatriz, they deserve to be happy with each other. Eh Kendra has everyone believing that Salsero is like Leo, which it did come off that he was at the beginning of the novela up until he met Beatriz. I hope this thing with Salsero being another Leo blows over.

I like the interaction between Arriaga and Guzmancito, they have a really good bond. Seems so natural and I could definitely see them as brothers. It was nice to see Arriaga be there for him as a friend/brother/papa.

Probably being an oddball but I don't feel sorry for Paula at all. I just don't. I know there is more than one way to look at the situation but you don't turn your back on your children for a lover nor a gambling addicting husband. She can handle however long it takes Guzmancito to want to have a relationship with her which I'm sure he will at some point just not now.

Anibal saying that Nikki is the only one believes him, well that's because she doesn't know you're a liar. He's her Tatito for crying out loud, She's naïve to the situation and all grandchildren want to see the best out of their grandparents only because they're "supposed" to be innocent. In my opinion anyways.

Kendra and those picture, I can already wonder how this is going to play out with those.

I'm also glad Guzmancito shared with Victoria about how Roy the Roller Boy has been with Nikki about her weight. I was really pleased with Guzmancito. :) I do wander though what Roy is going to do with this information though. Hmmm.

Madelaine I'm going to end with that I enjoyed your recap once again as I always do. Detailed exceptionally well (I love that). Thanks again for the shout out, really had me rolling.

Team Nikki/Guzmancito
 

Madelaine - Thank you for the recap!

Guzman crying is not a pretty sight. Just saying… Maybe it is that stupid non-beard.
JA crying is much easier to look at.

I wanted to lanzar a Nerfazo at JA last night for telling Guzman to go kiss and make up with Paula. He means well, but he has no idea the pain and rejection that woman has caused Guzman. He needs to forgive, for his own sake, but he doesn't have to have a relationship with her or love her.

Later on, I loved JA's conversation with Guzman about being alone with Lili at the apartment. He was … such a … dad! Aaawwwww…

I still do not feel sorry for Paula. Nope. She has created her problems. She also knows Cristina is Anibal's other daughter and still has not given that Big Reveal.

Tomi ogling JA in his tee-shirt was just a hoot. She was not subtle, at all. LOL

Now that El Roy-ero knows about Nikki's eating problem, he is probably planning to let her starve to death after they are married çuz then he'll have her money all for himself and be rid of her.

 

Madelaine - Perfect title. How you handle all the detail with such pizazz is a wonder to me. Thanks for the fun read.

I too am wondering what Roy Boy will do with the information. Maybe use it somehow to get Nikki to the altar sooner?

I think Bea had a right to know Salsero was rough with Kendra. But now that Bea knows, Pau should back off and let Bea handle her own business. Pau no doubt feels guilty about the years she wasn't around and possibly could have warned Bea off leo the low in the first place.

No idea what will happen, but seems to me Angel can't go back to being Cris' husband. As he said to Vickie, they will never be the same again now that he's fallen for someone else.

I'm still scratching my head about Vickie not realizing the woman is her. Vickie, aren't you the woman who wrote the book on the forbidden love between the bodyguard and his patrona?
 

Doris- You made me laugh about Roy letting Nikki starve to death after they get married.
Lol You are entitled to your own opinion about Guzmancito's crying.
But I find it the opposite, I don't like the way Arriaga cries actually, it doesn't feel real enough for me.

Niecie- I'm right there with you on the, " scratching my head about Vickie not realizing the woman is her. Vickie, aren't you the woman who wrote the book on the forbidden love between the bodyguard and his patrona?"

Team Nikki/Guzmancito


 

HA, HA, HA! El chillón (crybaby) de Roy screaming, "Auxilio! Auxilio!" when Guzman had his wrist bent back was hilarious.

But I'm not sure Vikki should have told Roy about Nikki's bulimia. He is just the type to use it to control her. He'll research it and do exactly what he's not supposed to do, then front to everyone (including Nikki) just how loving and concerned he is about her. Saying he "gets it" was strictly for Vikki's benefit, IMO. He's a total self-interested jerk and will be just as abusive as loathsome leo, although not in the physical sense. His abuse may be worse, though. I'm afraid for Nikki.

Can't stand Paula. I don't think she deserves forgiveness, but beyond that, she is absolutely unlikable. She knows about Cristina being Anibal's daughter. She bribed the detective to tell Anibal that Candelaria is dead and the most horrible thing she has done is ABANDONED her children. That's a huge thing. Plus, she's a "chillona" who turns on the waterworks whenever she wants to get out of a situation. Yuck!

The crying bodyguards: Guzman - Sí; Arriaga - No ... Guzman looks like he's actually crying(IMO, of course); while Arriaga always looks like he's "acting" as if he's crying - no me gusta.

 

Thanks, Madelaine!

There was so much going on in this episode and no one is better than you at capturing it all. Wonderful job!

I was curious about the word "rollero" after Frankie used it again last night. It turns out that in Mexico it is slang for LIAR, PHONY, AND BRAGGART (mentiroso, embustero, hablador). If the zapato fits ...

I appreciated the careful staging of the Angel/Frankie hug -- Real men do hug, but only from behind with the back of a chair between them.

Parallel universe of relationships:

Opalina is to Angel as Liliana is to Guzman

Let's hope Lili gets past her unrequited love and doesn't end up alone with just a few decks of tarot cards and a bag of caracoles for company.
 

NM - Roy-ero = Rollero

:-)
 

De gustibus non est disputandum, but I always said that the big guy was the male Ruffo/Adela Noriega - one of the most seasoned, veteran criers in Telenovelaland. But yes, unfortunately he tends to overact it with those grimaces.

Rullí is an interesting guy, too. While Yanez's crying looks like he's desperately fighting for an award (hey, it worked for Anne Hathaway), in the kitchen scene Rullí looked like he was desperately trying to shed at least one tear. Which was lame. :) But later in that scene with Arriaga he was very convincing. I agree with doris that Sebastián isn't a pretty crier, but I liked him in that scene. And I'm impressed with his acting since Teresa.

(By the way, when it comes to talent or the quality of acting, I usually hold telenovela actors, especially the Mexican performers and their painful overacting to different standards. They work 10-12 hours a day, their characters are very simplified human beings, and the script is chock full of melodramatic scenes. It's a miracle they don't burn out by the end of a telenovela.)
 

Watching now; will comment on more later, but why is Pau-wah wearing a necklace that looks like a slug orgy?
 

Mads- Thanks so much for the great recap.

As for our crying big boys, JA and Guzman-- I started to cry a bit while watching Guzman cry. I never have with JA. JA may be a prettier crier, but Guzman really made me feel his emotional pain. I was so glad he had JA there to give him a fatherly/brotherly hug. But people need to be encouraging Guzman to find a way to let go of the resentment that's causing his pain, NOT trying to force him to forgive and accept Paula. They are not the same things.

How unusual of Salsero to propose with the actual wedding band, not engagement ring, and to have both his and hers. I thought it was really sweet that he has decided to wear his from now on.

I really wish the writers hadn't made Salsero so violent with Kendra. It makes it hard to see him as different that Leo when he has the capacity for violence against a woman-- even one as evil as Kendra.

I was glad Guzman told Vicky what Crybaby Boy has been doing and saying regarding Niki's weight/body, and I'm also glad Vicky told the Boy what's going on. He's either going to clean up his act about that particular thing, or he's going to keep doing what he was doing before. If he does, and Vicky or Guzman find out, there will be hell for him to pay.
 

Good Afternoon Y'all and thanks for all the great comments. I sometimes, okay, okay, tend to be long winded. It's a slog to go through but so many things happened this epi.

Gringo:

I really don't know who is going to be the homewrecker. It has taken ninety some epi's to get this far as acknowedging their feelings. I don't know when Angel will ever tell Ms Vikki how he feels. He keeps heming and hawing and still hasn't told her.

Carlos:

Lol'd you picked up on my subliminal messaging system! You are too clever! I was mockingly making the point that the Boy got it. Thank you for Delicia's name. I thought when I heard it he was calling the girl delicious but that was actually her name, lol. You are right about the Angel. Ms Vikki isn't getting his subliminal messaging so I don't know what he is going to do now. But you are so right about Opalina and her que sera sera, whatever will be, will be. It's almost like she is goading him forward. I don't know. Odio was so funny with her rant and her hair flying out of her perfectly couiffed hair, I liked the "luke" it so fit her, lol.
 

Victoria:

I just had to put that in the recap. I do shoutouts now and then and I know that Guzmi is your telenovio : )

I too am glad that Guzmi and Angel are like brothers and I have the feeling, not a spoiler, that now that Santino wants to reform they can become like the three muskateers. That's my hope anyway. I hope Santino isn't tarred too badly by Kendho's shennigans. I really want Santino to be redeemed by the end of this TN. Betty and Santino are so good for each other.

Good point about Nikki, Victoria. I think if she didn't have the problems she is having right now, I think Nikki would think twice about what is going on around her, especially with her Tia Adri being so upset.
 

Doris:

Agree with you about JA and the talk he had with Guzmi about Lili. It was very sweet and JA was being a great day. At least he didn't accuse Guzmi of things that didn't happen. I like the Angel for that.

Oh, and so agree with you about the Boy now having this knowledge about Nikki's bulimia. I don't really think it will be good. He was bound to find out sooner or later. It's good Ms Vikki told him but I too think he will use this to his advantage.

Tomi and Angel are a hoot together, they always look like they are going to bust out laughing. I had a good laugh when she was eyeing him up and down and she really was trying so hard not to laugh : )
 

Neice:

So agree with you about Pau backing off now. Betty is not a little girl and has been around the block. I'm glad Betty knows too about Santino. I don't think Santino was so smart to go over and confront Kendho the way he did. He just wanted Kendho to get the message to stop saying things to make Betty doubt him. Santino really needs to find another way to handle her. We all know Kendho isn't going to stop. She gets back at everyone that done her wrong. Santino could have done that by outting her past. That would have shut her up, maybe. But as Carlos said she is the creation of Santino and now he has to deal with it.

Good point about Ms Vikki and the book about the Bodyguard y Patrona book. She lives in a bit of a fantasy world and doesn't see it as real life, even though she has these "feelings", while JA is now knowing what he is feeling and desperately trying to find a way to spit it out, already : ) He isn't doing a good job of telling Ms Vikki and Ms Vikki isn't doing a good job of reading between the lines. She is just going on what she saw.
 

Anon 6:40:

I too agree with you about Nikki and Roy. Nikki doesn't need his brand of knowing and I too think he will use it to his advantage. He is just like the FF. Have the nice wife at home and the horrible chippie on the side or two or three for that matter. I too thought it was funny when Guzmi bent the Boy's wrist back and him screaming like a little girl! And he did milk the situation to his advantage when Ms Vikki came down those stairs. Ms Vikki knows Guzmi though and should have figured that the Boy was lying his patooty off : ) She also should have told the Boy to have some respect.
 

NovelaMaven:

You also had me lol'd when I read your comment. Too funny! I liked what you said about the hug with Guzmi and the Angel, lol.

I really hope Lili doesnt' end up with a bag of shells and reading tarot cards. I hope she ends up with a huge nursery, cause we know she just loves her plants and meets a hawt dude that shares her love of plants and the earth. She is just such an earth mother type. Along with her twinges of esp and automatic writing. Maybe she can do the readings on the "side".
 

Aribeth:

You are so right about the way these actors work. They are worked so much and look absolutely pooped out by the end of the telenovela they are working in. Even here in the States they say soap stars are the hardest working in the industry. Lots of actors say that soap work is the hardest thing they have ever done and never get the respect for it.
 

Vivi:

So agree with you about Santino and the two rings. I too am glad he is wearing his. It concerns me though, cause I don't want the low one to find out what is going on, but I am afraid he is going to find out that Betty and Santino have taken their relationship to the next level. I really wish that Betty had gone to the cops and Santino too after the beatdown. This way the low one would be in the carcel and out of their hair. I think that Guillo would have dealt with that in time. Now poor Guillo thinks his daddy low is just fine and couldn't possibly be a bad dude. This won't be good for Guillo, just my opinion.
 

Vivi- You said it, I did it (cried) and that's my main point. I agree with you, I felt Guzmanctito's pain and not just with the tears (big part), but he made it believable and emotional. Thank goodness I had a box of tissue beside me because I shed some tears. I'm not the type to cry unless I can actually feel the emotion from a scene.

Madelaine- Lol. I never thought about Guzmancito as my telenovio, but now that you mentioned it, I definitely love that title for him to me lol. Definitely with you on Salsero not being too, " tarred too badly by Kendho's shenanigans."

P.s "I sometimes, okay, okay, tend to be long winded. It's a slog to go through but so many things happened this epi."
In my opinion Madelaine, don't even think it, every episode feels like there is so much going on to me, but when there really is a lot going on you are definitely the one to get the job done :)

Team Nikki/Guzmancito
 

I want to address the crying of the Angel and Guzmi.

I liked the second cry that Guzmi did in front of the Angel. It was looking very real and it hurt so much, I cried along with him. Angel, however, cries really well I have to say. I like all of his expressive emotions when he does cry. If you ever saw EY in DA you would know what I mean. That man can cry and I like the emotions he emotes, so to speak. Maybe he'll do it here, we'll have to wait and see.

About Pau. I agree that she turns on the waterworks every time things don't go her way, but I think she really is pained that Guzmi will not talk to her. Betty gave her some grief too, but not as much as Guzmi. I don't think Guzmi should just up and talk to her either. He has a lot of pain to deal with. She did abandon him and it effected him deeply. He does need to forgive her, but not for her, for him. He needs to let go of all his pain. Maybe later, once he has dealt with his pain, he can talk to her, like by the end of this TN.

Pau has much to atone for. I hate the way she turns on the waterworks everytime she doesn't get her way. The list of her crimes are many:

1. Leaving her children to go run off with the Don.

2. Trying to get Guzmi to forgive her and be a part of her life, after what she did to him.

3. Pilfering that letter, that Gilda gave her, of Candelaria saying that Cris is the Don's daughter.

4. Not telling the Don about Cris or how she found out that Cris is the Don's daughter, but then again she did pilfer that letter she had no bidness seeing.

That's all I can think of for now, as far as the Pau's crimes go. I don't think Pau should tell Cris that she is the Don's daughter. Candelaria is guilty of that. Candi should have told Cris about that years ago. But getting back to Pau. She does have some guilt. Like she was trying to get rid of Cris, at the apartments anyway, but grew to love her like a daughter. Also I really do think she has some guilt about leaving her children and going off with the Don. Also I think she had twinges of guilt about Adri. I think that is why she told her that the Don lied to her and told Adri what the Don had done. I really think that Pau meant what she said to Adri about them being alike, in finding their children again. Adri was right about Pau holding all these secrets and having to live with them. The Pau needs to come clean with her children about the relationship with the Don. If her children find out from someone else, then there really will be hell to pay and her children will never forgive her.
 

Madelaine- You forgot one of Paula's MAJOR crimes-- she had Anibal's detective tell Anibal that Candelaria DIED-- childless.
 

Vivi:

Thanks so much for the major crime. I had forgotten about that. I will have to keep a running list of Pau's crimes so that we can tally them up for her appropriate comeuppance. They haven't shown Candelaria in some time. I wonder if she will ever show up in the D.F.
 

Madelaine---Don't worry about long winded comments, your recaps and comments are both great. Everyone's
comments are fun/great to read whether long or short, it doesn't matter. The Amores blog is super.

Men's tears---I would like to ask,
when did all this crying start? It
used to be that [men were/acted like men]--they didn't cry, or at least, not in public. That was for women. So what's with all of this crying nowdays? Again, when did this public waterworks start?
the gringo

 

Madelaine,

I'm actually a Paula fan (well, at least I don't abhor her) but for completeness sake, we can add to her...ummm...unfortunate decisions the fact that she answered Candelaria's letter to Aníbal with a letter supposedly from him telling her that he wanted nothing to do with her or any brat she might of had and to please not bother him again.

Also, she wears too much makeup.

Carlos
 

GRINGO- "Everyone's
comments are fun/great to read whether long or short, it doesn't matter. The Amores blog is super."

AGREED!

Team Nikki/Guzmancito



 

"Also, she wears too much makeup."

LOL Carlos! This might be her biggest crime. Also, thanks for the reminder about her letter to Cande.


 

"So what's with all of this crying nowdays? Again, when did this public waterworks start?"

In telenovelas (aka melodramas) men are allowed to cry. I remember that EY already pulled a Victoria Ruffo in Yo compro esa mujer twenty years ago.

It'd interesting to see an essay about the psychology of telenovelas. These galáns are a dichotomy personified: they are so macho that testosterone pours out of their ears, yet they are also sensitive and extremely tender to please the female audience. Therefore in one minute they have a jealous rage and act like a patriarchal nightmare, but in other they cry like a baby, collect flowers to their old mother/madrina/grandma, adopt a puppy from a dog shelter, and write a poem to their lady. And they are always good in bed.
 

William Levy cries a lot too, sometimes even with mocos! LOL
 

Carlos:

Thanks so much for the added crime. I think I tend to forget about Candelaria cause they haven't shown her in sometime. I will add that one to the list too. I too lol'd about the too much makeup and you know what, I am adding that too, lol.

Vivi:

So agree with you too, that is Pau's biggest crime lol.


 

Aribeth:

So true about these galans. They are very macho, but on the other hand very tender and they do cry. I really like that, cause you really don't see that on American TV unless it is some type of tragedy, never over the love of a woman. I have seen snippets of YCEM on Youtube and I did see him cry there. I think he has probably cried in every TN he has been in : ) The best crying he did was in DA especially when he thought he lost Gaviota and went to the hacienda and cried and got drunk for like a week. Those scenes to me were very powerful. You could almost feel the raw emotion. That is why it is my favorite TN that EY has been in : )
 

Anon 5:17:

Ewww I learned a new word, mocos lol. I have seen WL cry too but never with the mocos. He is also a great crier. I even like Jose Ron when he cries. They all do a great job : )
 

Julia:

I've given up on the jewlery in these TN's. It seems that everything they show the actors wearing in these TN's end up in a store. Especially over on PEAM. I have already seen those earrings PatiMelt wore the other night in a scene, the ghastly long ones and I bet that ring that Chucho got for Alma winds up in some store too.

Although in this TN the jewelery has been tasteful in the main. My favorite pieces have been worn by Ms Vikki. She has incredible taste in jewelery.

I like the clothes in this TN, very tasteful in the main. I wish they would get rid of the flower dresses for Pau though, they dont' become her. And the clunky jewelry. But I guess it fits her character : )
 

Aribeth---Thanks for the telenovela
lesson.
the gringo
 

Dear Madelaine: The ultimate recap - perfect title and scrumptious detailing from beginning to end. "bro convo", "no soggies" and "anti-Leo deterrant" were only a few of my favorites.

Exceptional (as always) and well written. The conversation translations were excellent and so appreciated. The only thing I look forward to on Mondays are your sensational recaps.

A few things. I think JA is simply acknowledging the truth and no longer supressing it. The huge difference is "Angel says the relationship between him and Cris will never be the same". The cosmic shift is (IMHO) he still cares for Cris but he no longer loves her. That said, I do not believe he will break up his marriage. He believes in fidelity and so does Vicky. I think their future is in the hands of the fates...

I was initially upset that Cris told Paula about Salsero but in retrospect, if I thought my friend's daughter was going from one abusive relationship to another, I would tell as well. Also, this wasn't idle gossip - she actually witnessed him going after Kendra. I hope my relief that Bea stood her ground with Paula holds. Bea was so happy!!

Rulli and Yanez are great criers. And "good" criers. Is there anything more appealing than handsome, intelligent men showing a vulnerable, sensitive side? I totally agree with Aribeth that Rulli was awesome in Teresa and I'm a definite fan. Yanez is the ultimate.

I'm rooting for a Paula/Francisco reunion but Carlos has reminded me of the elephant in the room - her letter to Candelaria. I'm squirming but still want their reconcilation - especially for his sake.

Madelaine, I know you read the comments Monday morning. I am going to NJ to be with my youngest brother who suffered a stroke. He is now in a step down unit from the ICU and is conscious. My other brother has been with him since it happened. I ask the Caray family to pray for Marc. I believe their prayers helped my other brother to recover from cancer several years ago. Bless you in advance for your prayers. I look forward to "seeing" you all later next week.

Diana
 

Madelaine - I think Paula has to wear those big print dresses to hide all the wet tear stains. She is such a llorona!

Diana - Hugs, thoughts and prayers for you and your brother.
 

Diana,
My thoughts are with you and your family. Take care, amiga.
 

Thank you Doris and NovelaMaven...

Diana
 

About Salsa Dude --

The whole thing is thorny. Kendra is a witch and has no one's sympathy. But Salsero is a man capable of violence. In real life, people rarely, if ever, change. In telenovelas, redemption is possible. So I am cheering for Salsero but I'm also nervous for Beatriz.
 

Diana:

Amiga, I am sending you one big virtual hug and I will be praying for you, your brother Marc and your family. Take care, Diana, and wishing for Marc's full recovery. Thanks for your great comment.


 

Doris:

I had to lol'd about Pau's print dresses. You are right, how can you see those tears with all the background of huge flowers, lol.

NovelaMaven:

I too agree with you about Salsa dude. I worry for Betty, but I really don't think he would do anything to physically hurt Betty. I think he is violent with Kendho cause that seems to be the only thing she understands, not that I am condoning violence, on the contrary. I think there could be other ways of dealing with her. What worries me is what Kendho would do to Betty. We know Kendho is behind all these kidnappings and violence so far and I am hoping Kendho never gets to meet the low one. That would be the alliance from hell.
 

Diana:

I too agree with what you said about JA and Cris. He does care for Cris, I too agree he doesn't love her anymore. You could tell when he was kissing her in his room. He didn't kiss her on the lips like he used to. And all this hemming and hawing with Ms Vikki. He usually comes right out and says what is on his mind, and he just couldn't. You are right about him not wanting to stray into infidelity. Neither one of them is like that. Ms Vikki is so jealous every time some woman is close to him, and he hates the fact the FF is always kissing on Ms Vikki. I think it will be some time before they acknowledge their feelings for each other, to each other, in other words : )
 

Diana- Sending lots of prayers to your brother and your family!
 

Diana - My thoughts are with you and your family.
 

Diana- Although I am new to Caray, I send you plenty of hugs and prayers for your brother Marc. Have a safe trip!
 

Thanks Victoria - for both your fun comments and for your prayers.

Diana
 

Enjoyed all the comments. My 2 cents on JA and Guzman crying - To me they're both good criers, but in this episode I was more into Guzman's crying cause it was understandable, the hurt and pain of abandonment by his mother. EY is a good crier but I wasn't into JA's crying during their bro-hug cause I'm tired of folks trying to make Guzman make up with his mother by telling him about their own love for their own sainted mother. JA, your mother didn't up and run out on you in your formative years, neta? ITA Guzman needs to forgive for his own good cause his bitterness is a stone wearing him down, but it's got to be when he's ready.

I wish Opalina and Cris didn't have the drama between them, cause now it's tough for me to see Opalina as a neutral spiritual adviser for JA. I know Opalina just tells what she "sees" and she's honest, but I can't help but think she doesn't mind seeing Cris go down and maybe even thinks Cris is getting what she deserves.
 

Madelaine, Vivi and Niecie: Gracias! I'm very touched by your comments.

Diana
 

Diana, best wishes and good vibes for a speedy recovery for your brother.

Niecie, I agree about the way people are pressuring Guzmi. Telling him about their relationships with their own wonderful moms seems like rubbing it in more than helping. He doesn't have that kind of mother, captas?! He does need to find some way to get past the pain and bitterness just so it won't keep hurting him, but expecting him to kiss and make up with mommy and have a wonderful relationship with her is a bit much.
 

Opalina accepts what is going to happen and for whatever reason(s), knows it cannot be prevented or changed. Just like she accepts her gift of The Sight. With Cris, Opalina knows what is inevitable and is not emotionally tied to it. Maybe she just detaches, the way ER surgeons & docs have to in trauma centers?
 

Julia:

So agree with what you said about Guzmi and I liked your point of view about everyone else having great Moms and trying to push him towards his Mama Pau. I agree. He needs to do it for his own piece of mind when he is ready, but not for her.

Doris:

That was a good point you made about Opalina. I never thought about her detaching. Maybe that's why she is so reluctant to read Cris the shells and also Cris is so worried. Cris seems to sense something too.
 

Diana---With the Cary family praying for your brother Mark, I know that he will get better. Will be waiting to read the "good news"
when you return.
the gringo
 

Diana,

I'm so sorry to hear about your brother Marc. I still include Brian in my prayers so now I will add Marc as well.

Carlos
 

Diana, best wishes to your brother!
 

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