Caray, Caray!

Looking forward to it Jardinera!

Lots of exciting plans being put into place. I also liked Os and Dan's sneaky plan for ceding his part of the ranch from last episode. Good defensive move to put that secret no construction/no changes clause in there.
 

Thanks, Jardinera. So much to cover and we know that you will do it with wit and style.

Hipolito is so wonderful. Not a looker but such a good man. I loved when he referred to Augustina as Camila's "Dona mamacita." So cute.
 

Just a quick comment before I go off to work. Like Vivi said, lots of plans underway, and I love the MQ guys going rogue. How cute. I hope they wear black clothes and skicaps.

Natalia, I hope what Dan tells you finally sinks in. She said she was going to talk to Dion to see if what Dan told her was true. How dumb are you again? Don't you think he will lie his way out of it again? When Aaron mentioned Thursday that Nat needs to see Yago cheating on her, I hoped he was planning on setting up the situation where Yago is with another woman and Aaron brings Nat there 'innocently' where she sees him.

The avances looked exciting, I wish I understood what they were saying.




 

Yes, lots of exciting plans on the way.

I really like Hipolito too. I'd go for someone like him....looker or not...but then there's Rafa:)

Oh, Natalia, what's it going to take? Like Vivi said the other day, she's probably going to have to see or hear it for herself. Her plan of going and talking with him is utterly ridiculous. Of course, he'll lie, and in addition, he'll be tipped off that he's being scrutinized.
 

Natalia will have to catch him in the act, just as Gussie did.
 

If that happens, we won't see a boda interruptus. I'm looking forward to a boda interruptus.
 

I am not a fan of Miriam's so I'm not happy that I see her in total control of the love triangle. I'm aware that Dan and Cami are helpless to pursue their relationship based on Abe's lie about Miriam being dead and the doctors false aneurism report. However, that's precisely what put Miriam in charge of calling the shots. If I'm right, all the match ups between Mariano, Dante, and Teresa will be based on how Miriam decides to handle the situation. She'll decide what she wants and the others can pair up with her left overs.
For me this is depressing. Anyone see a brighter picture?




 

Hola todos,

Pablo Montero is temporarily suspended from Que bonito amor. It didn't say exactly why but apparently has sth to do with his music career. He may not come back.

Can't wait for Natalia to see the light, s/b interesting to see her revenge.

Looks like Hipolito is going to get Dio's briefcase, I hope nothing happens to him.
 

I do like Miriam, she's had it rough. Daniel was the love of her life & now he's in love with someone else.
She will find the wedding picture & then the whole thing is revealed.

She is attracted to Mariano so hopefully sth will develop there.

Seems Daniel & Mariano have the same taste in women.
 

Up until now Juarez has been pretty smart for a TN police chief, but I was kind of frustrated with him sitting there twiddling his thumbs (literally!) while Osvaldo and Camila were bringing up the question of the checks, including whether they had been cashed. (If they hadn't been cashed, there wouldn't be any fraud to talk about, right?) And while I adore Camila, I think it's going too far to have her be the only person who could come up with the idea of trying to find out where the checks were deposited. (Teresa, the brilliant lawyer: "That's a good idea!")

I know I'm griping a lot, but my nerves at on edge with these penultimate episodes.
 

All they have to do is subpoena Dio's bank acct & ck his deposits. They have approximate dates.
 

Actually now I'm starting to suspect that he set up an account in Agustina's name (the papers she signed) and has been depositing the checks there.
 

Variopinta, could Pablo be recording? He made a CD during production of Abrazame Muy Fuerte and was written out for several weeks. Those weeks were excised from the current airing on UniMas.

If El Diablo doesn't have bank accounts in that name, they may not be able to find anything. Since Amanda swears he is Hector Gutierrez and they have some evidence that this is the case, I'm sure that Sherlock Juarez suspects that any bank accounts he has are offshore and numbered only.
 

After that scene with Dionisio and Isadora today, I'm wondering, is Dionisio planning to demand Camila herself, as well as La Malquerida, in return for her mother's freedom? That's going to result in some fun drama.

And now I'm also suspecting that Isadora is going to try to torpedo Dionisio's personal plans for Camila.

And will someone just please point out to Natalia that even the worst villain can dote on his daughter and love and spoil and support her? How many times have we heard her say, "But he's always treated me well!" Someone needs to put it plainly: "Do you want to be the doted-upon daughter of an evil man, enjoying the riches that he's stolen from others and benefiting from his evil deeds?"

As others have said here, the actor playing Cayetano is excellent. There didn't seem to be much to him at first, but he did an excellent job of conveying his infatuation upon first sight with Isadora, as well as all these subsequent stages. You can just watch him for five seconds and you know how much of Isadora's drugs he's got in his system. (And I still love him from when he played the hero's father in La Otra.)
 

If El Diablo doesn't make both demands at once he can't possibly win. Camila would insist that Augustina be released before she signs over the property. After that and getting all the good people off the land and out of harm's way she'd split with no forwarding address (except maybe to Sherlock Juarez just in case).
 

Dio has to be getting cash, although swindled, from somewhere. So I would think a local bank acct. Aggie even said she signed sth to put her on the acct. I just hope he didn't open the acct in her name only, but then it would be a little tricky for him to get the money out, but he is so damn cagey, he probably could. It seems a small community & I don't know how he could open an acct in a name other than Dionicio Ferrer.

UA, here is the article on Pablo. I know he is your main man.

http://www.peopleenespanol.com/article/el-productor-salvador-mejia-confirma-que-pablo-montero-esta-suspendido-de-que-bonito-amor
 

Loved that Cayetano said he was feeling much better when Mariano asked him. Amazing what a lack of toloache can do for you. Iz is bound to get suspicious.
 

I don't want to imagine what Dio has in mind for Camila, but I'm sure Dan will be there to save her from the lecher.
 

Ok, question time, just how can Dionisio save Agustina from the pokey? The accusations have been made and the policies were never issued that is fraud, so how can Dionision right the situation? Can he suddenly make coverage appear? I don't understand how he can get Agustina out of jail after valid accusations have been made.
 

He can't spring Aggie, he sure isn't going to sacrifice himself. He'll just continue to spin the mierda del toro.
 

Of course he can't save her, nor does he want to. You can't unshoot a bullet.

He wants to be rid of her and permanently.

Daniel has to rescue Camila from him because she is walking into his trap with her eyes closed.
 

Hipolito has got a manly look about him, not boyish. He's got a look that says "I've lived in the world, I' m not just starting out. Check out his fabulous eyebrows and lips.

Poor Rafa. Gets to be a father to an adopted kid. I know it's noble, but such an unhappy relationship beginning to begin with baggage without even having gone on a trip.

I think Univision should do a whole series around Commandante Juarez, something like Colombo . . .


 

I bet Dionisio could have a whole fallback plan to spring Agustina, with a set of documents, mysteriously misplaced until now, that show that annuities or insurance plans or whatever were purchased for Agustina's clients, and even that she was an authorized representative of an appropriate company. "It was all just a big misunderstanding," he'd say.
 

That wont get Aggie off the hook because there is no money to pay off Gladys' son. They would ck out the legitimacy. The commandante isn't as gullible as Aggie, no one is as gullible a Aggie.
 

Urban, we all know he does not want to save her, but if he plans to tell camila that he will get Agustina out of jail if she does what he wants how in the world would he pull it off? Am I the only one that's thought about this?
 

The only thing he can do is go back to the ones whom he has pressured to bring charges and pay them to drop the charges. He would then have to pay off on Gladys' policy out of his own ill-gotten gains and make the other polices legit to cover it up.

However, I don't think it will play that way.

First of all, since fraud is a Federal offense I don't think that bell can be unrung. Second, he can't have Augustina free and be able to possess Camila. What I think is more likely is that he will stall and she will end up in the federal lockup. From there he will find a way to have her murdered in prison.
 

Urban, first off pretty cat! He/she reminds me of my own kitty. That's what I thought but I worry that our scooby gang wont think about any of this and do something stupid.
 

Too bad Mariano can't tell Cayetano to "act foggy" now that he can actually see the difference in him, since el Tonto would never believe what's been happening to him. Isadora is smart and if she notices her LP#9 is not having an effect, she might go back to her supplier and get something more effective. Hope they hurry with the análises!
 

Figaro is a beautiful cat and he knows it because I'm always telling him.

Don't miss any episodes from now on!
 

I'm home finally.

I think that Isadora will try to make Caye think something was his idea when it wasn't like she did when she told him that it was his idea to kick out Bratgirl. But this time Caye will have more of his senses about him and know that she is lying. And this will happen after Mariano tells him of the test results. (That's my personal opinion, no peaking at future episodes has taken place.) By the way, this actor is doing a great job of acting slightly more normal now that the drops are wearing off. He's wonderfully believable.

And my opinion about the Dion business, I think that he put it in their joint account but withdrew the money himself. There probably isn't a record of who withdrew the money and since it's joint, he will just say that Aggie withdrew it. There are no records of my own joint account with my husband that tells who actually did the transactions. Only that the transactions took place.




 

The bank makes the person cashing the ck to endorse it. That's the rule anyway, I'm sure not always followed.
If he transferred it, there is a record.
 

Jardinera, your style is front and center in your first paragraph. Hilarious and your turn of phrase is so clever. Terrific.

I thought Yago told Nat that he wasn't going with her to deliver the invitations, but there he was at Dan and Miriam's.

So what is Amanda's little plan for Yago and Nat? We never got that detail.

I'm with you on the happy talk with Mir and Mar. Everybody is there for each other and crying when they leave. Even if they've only know each other for a week.

I can't believe that the women in Gussie's cell haven't stolen the things that her family brought to her. What's to stop them?

It surprises me that Dan and Dante talk as if it's inevitable that Miriam will die. I don't think the doctor said her life is shortened with the aneurism.

This had me howling:
Ossie is a shrimp cocktail complete with red sauce.' so true!

Great part 1, Jardinera.
 

True, Variopinta. But once it's deposited, then anyone can withdraw money without a signature. Think ATM withdrawal. Aggie asked me to deposit these checks into our account for her. She told me that she would move them to her business account later. I didn't follow what she did after that.
 

If Amanda and our scooby doo gang knew what a stupid fool etc we've branded Nat, I wonder if they'd still push her to single handedly do something that the entire gang of them couldn't do and that is bust El Diablo.
 

Wow, Jardinera, another great recap, or, rather, half recap. But there was so much info and so many zingers that it felt like a whole recap. I loved your referring to Nat as "Our Cheery Chickadee." It's perfect! As was your delightful account of the scene between M&M, including your observation "Miriam puts her hand on Mar’s. (Viewerville notes the tingle he seems to feel all the way down to his toe tips.)" Perhaps it's not accidental that their initials are M&M--the scene between them was over the top sugary sweet, as you noted: "My insulin levels overfloweth. Any more warmth and syrupy chitchat and I’d have been turned into rock candy."

Can't wait for your Part II!
 

Fabulous Part I, Jardinera! Love your reference to Isadora's cocktail for Cayo at the "Viuda Negra house specialty." LOL
 

Okiedoke. I've got two thirds done. The last part will come tomorrow. I'm mentally blitzed and this one has been full of really detailed and juicy discussions.

Glad you liked what's written so far. : > ))
 

Thanks for parts one and two Jardinera. I do like that the Scoobies are working on multiple fronts to try and take down our villains.

Thanks bloggers for the info on fraud in Mexico. If Cam doesn't act too rashly and its understandable in this situation, then she will realize that all the devil's promises to help her mother are another lie. It will be fascinating to see if he does try to make both demands on Cam as UA noted. While it may make her sick, at least another level of his wretchedness will be revealed to her.

Aleta - ITA I want a bodas interruptus!

Can't wait for part three and your rendition, Jardinera, of Dan's heart-to-heart with the Amanda's deluded daughter.
 

Gracia Jar,
Things are really moving along, so much to do, so little time.
 

Great work, Jardinera.

With only 15 episodes to go things are really moving along. One has to wonder, though, if Hissadora succeeds can the Albarran boys get their inheritance back if she is sent to prison?

Iagho may not have done anything illegal but I want him punished in some way for what he is doing to Natalia.
 

These days they have cameras at the banks and every transaction is probably on video. Do we dare hope for a forged signature somewhere, no cuz he's too smart and so is Issa. However, nobody is perfect and somehow they'll screw up, or let something drop through the cracks. Charlie Chan always preached patience to #1 Son, if I remember correctly.
 

Ellie: Hi! As for Dio, he does not intend to ever get Agustina out of jail, IMO, just to use her to dangle in front of Cam to get her into bed and to get full control of the M.Q. He's already washed his hands of Gussie legally by testifying against her and saying he had no idea what crazy stuff she was pulling just to feel as important or to give her life meaning or whatever. Once he's got Gussie and Cam totally "back in line" I believe he thinks he'll laugh all the way to the bank, sell out, and take Cam with him while letting them lock up and throw away the key to Gussie's jail cell. Then Isadora will become a thing of the past as well for him. New country, new passport, new bunkmate (namely Cami)....


 

Well, Parte 3 was definitely worth waiting for. ¡Muchísimas gracias, Jar! I'm really grateful for all the helpful detail (esp. in the discussions between Dan and Nat and between Mariano and his father) and a few useful Spanish phrases that went right by me when I heard them. And, of course, there was more of your splendid snark, as in Cayetonto's reply to Mariano: "“—Is it so hard to believe that a woman might just want me for love’s sake?” (Considering the age difference and the fact you’ve got one foot in the grave and another on a banana peel, uh yeah!)."
 

Thanks, Jardinera, for the many good quips and continuing great channelling of Viewerville.

Pondering the plot twists and justice system of another counttry are making my head spin and the discussion sizzle. I am so tempted to do a marathon 15 hour on-line leap ahead, but then I would miss watching them with the group. So I will stick with the following UA's suggestion not to miss any episodes from here on.
 

Loved all three parts Jardinera. You outdid yourself on this one. You are one clever lady with your turn of phrases.

I loved Dan's talk with Natalia when she denied that Dion could do such a thing, Dan said that Piedad and Aggie are lying then? That made her stop.

Amanda may be able to get the truth out of Cholita, but it's another thing to get her to recant her testimony in front of Juarez and Isadora's lawyer.

I can't wait for the:
Nat-Dion conversation
Cayetano-Isadora (hopefully happening) convo now that his mind is coming back under his own control.
Amanda-Cholita convo
Dan and second opinion doctor's convo
And of course, the break in and stealing of the infamous briefcase.



 

So what is Dion's plan for Cam? Obviously to control her and have her ranch, but does he care if she cares for him? He knows she hates him. He gets her to sign over MQ, but I don't think money alone can free Aggie. Even if they pay off all the investors with the money that Cam gets from selling MQ, Aggie will still have to pay for the crime. But I don't see how he can help free Aggie without implicating himself.
This is where I don't understand what he is thinking or planning if he does really want Camila on a personal level.
 

Cathyx, great list of "I can't wait for" events. I had a similar mental list, though I'd forgotten about the 2nd doctor convo. Also on my list, though, was Leoncerdo. I'm not sure what will happen once he escapes from prison. I assume he'll head for Hissadora, but I'm not at all sure that he'll succeed in killing her. My guess is that he's the one who will get killed, which I think the TN will use as a way to help Luzma and Pablo get back together.

I wonder about the Nat/Dio convo, but I think its importance may be that Nat, looking for Dio, somehow manages to overhear the conversation between Dio and Iago. Ojalá (assuming Dio doesn't know that she's heard).

I fear that Cam is in for some rough days with Dio before all is resolved. I doubt that he'll succeed in getting her to "accept" him (as he put it), but it won't be pretty. Then again, I've been wrong so many times before....
 

With regard to the briefcase, do any of our peeps realize that El Diablo has any number of henchmen guarding his fortress? I think only Daniel really understands this.

Can he (or whoever) ultimately be charged with breaking and entering even when finding evidence of a far bigger crime?
 

Cathyx, I posted my recent message before I saw your second one. Aggie could pose a real threat to Dio. I don't have a good feeling about her outcome. As in R.I.P.
 

Juanita, I forgot about the Yago/Dion pending conversation. Now I can see that maybe Nat goes to talk to daddy and overhears his convo with Yago. That will kill 2 birds with one stone.

I wish that there wasn't the plot plan for Leoncio to escape. I would rather have Isadora get caught by others and have to live the rest of her days in jail. I don't want Leon interfering with any of that. And I want Luzma to get help for her problem the way any of us would have to get over it, by good therapy, and not by Leon's dying to close that chapter for her. I prefer our badguys to suffer through imprisonment for life, and not what I consider the easy way out by dying.
 

UA, I know that in the US, if you get evidence illegally, it can't be used in court. But it seems to me that that isn't true on TNs. I could be wrong though.

Maybe the plan to get the briefcase is for Hipo to act as some kind of worker and get in the house with Dion's ok, and somehow stealing the briefcase.
 

Leoncerdo's pending escape doesn't necessarily mean he will die in the end. If he's caught he'll not only do more time but harder time.

Especially if he makes any moves against Luzma. Nobody will protect him in prison then.

I've already stated my thoughts about what El Diablo has in mind for Camila. He is perverse in a similar way to CE's previous stepfather villains although slightly less extreme. However, I can see his actions being more extreme because TV is now more permissive and because -- unlike Federico and Atilio -- he didn't know Camila since birth.

This will require Daniel to come to the rescue.
 

Jar, excellent recap; each part wittier than the first-- a few of my favorites:

Viewerville notes the tingle he seems to feel all the way down to his toe tips.
Thank gawd! My insulin levels overfloweth. Any more warmth and syrupy chitchat and I’d have been turned into rock candy.
Considering the age difference and the fact you’ve got one foot in the grave and another on a banana peel, uh yeah!

The second that Cam called Dionisio to negotiate; she walked straight into his trap and lost the upper hand. He might have been a cartoonish villain but Dionisio has masterminded the fraud entrapment so cleverly that he might come closer to getting what he always dreamed of and obsessed about – getting LMQ and taking Cam to bed. Camilla is so desperate to see her mother out of jail that she’s very reactive and not listening to reason and her desire to keep Dan at bay might drive her straight to Dionisio’s bed.

I think it’s time that Augustina steps up and does something selfless to save her daughter from such humiliation; after all it was because of her abject stupidity that Dio had gained so much influence over her and gave him the direct mean to destroy her daughter.

Myo-

 

Jardinera- Since I was gone all of yesterday, I got a treat this morning in getting to savor your long, detailed recap in one sitting over breakfast. Thank you for taking the time to give us all the important conversations-- and there were many!

I laughed at your description of Mariano's reaction to Mir touching his hand. Do we think he realizes what he's beginning to feel for her?

Not much to add to all the speculation of what's to come. But every time we ask a question (like what about tracking the checks), they answer it by the next episode- so I'm just going to sit back and let the final weeks action unfold.

Dio seemed perfectly fine with Cami hating him (you know what they say about love and hate), but what he really wants is for her to "respect" him. By respect, I think he means fear. He would be perfectly happy to have Camila surrendering to him out of fear (for her mom, herself, her loved ones). He wants to break her.

I really like the scenes between Cami and Gussy. When those two are on the same page (when Gussy isn't trying to push her or Dio's agenda), they have such a great/loving relationship. Cami is so good about keeping Gussy calm, even when she herself isn't feeling calm or is ticked off-- like finding out about Gussy being locked up and tied up and not reporting it to the cops.
 

Cathyx, I agree with you about preferring to see Hissadora caught by others and having to suffer in prison rather than by dying. (That's why I said I didn't think Leoncerdo would succeed in killing her.) And though I also agree that having Luzma "cured" simply by Leoncerdo's death would be a cop-out and perhaps unrealistic, my guess is that even though the writers have often avoided such shortcuts, with only 15 episodes left, I'm not sure they have much choice. What I love about this TN is that even at this point the writers can keep us guessing about so much.
 

I agree about Camila and Agustina. SN and the writers do so well at making an extremely good heroine both believable and interesting--by making her actual goodness worth watching. I love seeing her going into "caring mode," which we've seen most often when she interacts with Luzma or now with her mother. You actually see her recognize the need, that is, realize that someone needs help and comfort, and then you see her switch off everything else, every other consideration, and concentrate on the person in need, using a calm and confident voice, saying the right things.
 

For El Diablo it is all about control. I think he likes the idea of breaking Camila because that makes him feel bigger. Which makes me wonder....

If the situation gets sufficiently egregious and Camila lets him think he can have her will he develop the problem he once laughed at when it was Alonso's problem?
 

"You actually see her recognize the need, that is, realize that someone needs help and comfort, and then you see her switch off everything else, every other consideration, and concentrate on the person in need, using a calm and confident voice, saying the right things."

So true UtahDesert. Cami does this with Vivi as well. She's a very good daughter and friend. I often find the the heroines in tns are very bad friends-- definitely not girlfriends I'd want to have as they are very often self-centered (Elisa, I'm looking at you). It's either SN or the writers, but her heroines are always such good girlfriends (and I don't mean novia).


 

As Mariano walked towards Vivi and Rafa and the two kids hugged, I had a vision of the future 15 years down the line when they'll all likely be in-laws.
 

Myo said: "I think it’s time that Augustina steps up and does something selfless to save her daughter from such humiliation; after all it was because of her abject stupidity that Dio had gained so much influence over her and gave him the direct mean to destroy her daughter."

Vivi in DC said: "
Dio seemed perfectly fine with Cami hating him (you know what they say about love and hate), but what he really wants is for her to "respect" him. By respect, I think he means fear. He would be perfectly happy to have Camila surrendering to him out of fear (for her mom, herself, her loved ones). He wants to break her"

UA said: "For El Diablo it is all about control. I think he likes the idea of breaking Camila because that makes him feel bigger."

UA and Vivi in DC...EXCELLENT comments and observations and worth seeing again. FEAR and CONTROL. This is what absolutely defines Dion. 'Nuff said.

Myo...agree with your observations about Gussie. I've called her a Blockhead all along, but a Blockhead who doesn't deserve death at the hands of her controlling, sociopath of a husband. Gussie has been the weak link throughout. Sadly, it is only now that she has seen what this has caused for her daughter.

I don't think any of us are surprised that Camila was so ready to write off the many things her mother has said and done. Camila sees that Gussie's humiliation is sufficient punishment. Might other daughters be so generous? Hard to say, but if Gussie makes it out alive (and I hope she does), then I think she has a chance at becoming the mother she really wanted to be, but couldn't because of her own ideas about men and her relationship with them.

UA...I think you could do a weekend series on Fear and Control in these stories. While the Dion character certainly has buffoonish qualities, how his character is written is not far from the truth in real life.

Gosh, Vivi in DC, you are SO right..."respect" in Dion's book really does mean "fear". Just had to say this again.

Jardinera...thank you for a wonderful recap.

Fatima

P.S. I wonder about some of these "robot" words! My word for the day is: "hatesxc". Oh boy!
 

Fatima, just do a search on "controlling parent" in this blog and you will find the photo galleries of toxic parents in novelas from the last 20 years. Control is their main objective, but if you know any of those series you'll see how male and female parent villains operate differently.
 

UA, thank you! Will definitely look that up. :)

Fatima
 

Great (of course) recap, Jardinera. I always look forward to my Sunday afternoons with you and my friends here at Caray Caray.

I thought the extended scene between Natalia and Daniel (with Amanda listening in) was wonderfully acted and extremely revealing. Watching her face as Dan laid out the terrible facts about Dad (and then Yago), one could see her carefully guarded and nurtured fantasies disintegrate.

I believe that she already knew but was postponing acceptance of the truth at least long enough to realize some of her hopes and plans before those bitter truths about Dionysio and (even more so) Yago came crashing around her.

I loved that last scene in which Rodolfo, Eleuterio, and Hipólito volunteered to retrieve Dionysio's briefcase. Glad to help...should be fun...piece of cake. Not a trace of doubt or fear from those guys.

Isadora has a interesting choice of poisons...have any of you ever tasted a potassium supplement?

Carlos
 

No, Carlos. Is it vile?
 

When she gave it to Old Man Lazcano, it looked like he was too out of it to taste anything at that point. Maybe she plans to have Cayetano is the same dopey state by the time she feeds him the potassium? Of course, she doesn't know that he's becoming more lucid, day by day.
 

Carlos- What's the story behind this week's avatar? I think I'll make some Jamaican curried shrimp for dinner tonight...
 

UA, potassium supplements taste extremely salty (not in a good way) and bitter with a metallic edge and a notoriously lingering aftertaste, I would think impossible to disguise.

Vivi, that is a crawfish which are very popular here and are in season now. They are delicious when boiled with strong spices, with potatoes, corn on the cob, and sausage. In Spring, Texas (a nearby neighborhood) a Crawfish Festival is held each Spring.

The very best thing I have ever eaten was crawfish bisque made by a lady from Jennings, La. I think that it's probably served in Heaven.

Carlos
 

Sounds devine Carlos! Can't get my hands on any good crawfish here, but shrimp is a good substitute for tonight's menu. Enjoy those Texan crawfish for both of us. Youm! :)
 

I take potassium supplements but I have never tasted them because I swallow them whole. Maybe she hides it in a crawfish bisque.
 

cathyx,

"Maybe she hides it in a crawfish bisque."

Heh heh...good one.

Carlos
 

Carlos: Well, no. So I had to guess as I'm no chemist and certainly no herbalist/indigenous witch doctor. Perhaps she will not use a potassium cocktail, but a belladonna bloody mary with the jimson weed extract of scopolamine/atropine --which is what belladonna contains, and since belladonna can be deadly. The flashbacks showed both of her methods when Isadora told Dio she'd get rid of El Tonto doing the same as she did with Al's daddy and Al himself. I did a coin toss and chose the potassium cuz I like popping my "p's". LOL!


 

Jardinera,

I also assumed that Isadora is going with potassium because that's pretty much what she said. I'm guessing that the writers haven't tried it either.

Carlos
 

Carlos: So your profs made you taste this stuff yourself in med school, right? Or are you just the naturally curious kind?
 

Carlos,
Are crawfish & crawdads the same? I've had crawdads in NO

Love how your avatars generally have sth to do with food or drink, loved the tequila y lime
 

Jardinera,

Potassium is the very reason that I'm not a medicine taster. As an intern I was in medicine clinic one day and there was this detail guy (no pretty women detailing in those days, just guys with ugly ties who stunk of cigarettes) who was pushing his good-tasting K+ supplement. It had a pretty bright red color and a wonderful cherry aroma. He offered me a sample served up in this cute little mini-cocktail glass. He guaranteed that it tasted great.

NEVER EVER...

Carlos
 

Variopinta,

Yes... crawfish, crayfish, crawdads, mudbugs... all the same. How did you like them? Spicy boiled? And of course I have to ask, did you suck the heads?

Carlos


 

Carlos: Ackkk! I knew it! I was afraid to offer that up as a possibility. Hate to cackle over that one but what the hey! Bwahahahahahahahahahhahahahah!
 

Now that Dan's on the truth train . . .
 

By the way, y'all--almost forgot!! I've got my grandma on again. Just found out today that I'm 6 months from meeting and greeting grandchild #2, courtesy of the DIL and my son. Had the little blonde bomber wearing his "I'm gonna be a big brother" tee-shirt when we showed up for brunch.
 

Jard, loved your recap. Was especially eager to read Dan's conv. with Nat and Mar's conv. with Caye. I had an idea of what was being said but really enjoyed your story.

Lots of excitement coming up...can't wait.

Congrats on being a grandma again!!!

Ann-NYC

 

Congratulations Abuela Jardinera!!!
 

Jar, thanks for the great recap. I'm with Ann re: the two convos.

Congrats on being a abuela again.
 

Congratulations Jardinera.
 

Random thoughts about K

So is the deadly potassium solution Isadora had Rosario (?) get from the locked cabinet at the hospital actually easily available? Or does Cayatono have at least a little while to live as Isadora goes about discretely finding a new supplier?

Speaking of Roasario, did she ever tell Juarez (or Anselmo or anyone) that Isadora had tried to get her to off Alonso before Alonso asked her to do it himself?

It can't be a matter of a few drops of potassium itself having killed the first husband, so would the lethal stuff taste as bad as the potassium supplement and such? With Al, Rosario injected the stuff into his IV, right? Was it the same stuff that Al's dad sipped through the straw?

Do we know what particular potassium containing substance is involved? It can' be potassium cyanide, that's hardly untraceable, right?

I think my grandmother used a Potassium based salt substitute where the "salty" taste was off, but not unbearable.

And speaking of K, Coach K is going to send his team into action later tonight. I need him to win if my Blue Devils are going to advance further than my Niece's VCU Rams or UNC Tarheels this year.

Chris in FL
 

Chris, I think it isn't that the potassium is untraceable, but that when one dies of an overdose, the symptoms mimic a heart attack and no one looks into it closer to find out that it was actually an overdose and not a heart attack.
 

Chris- Chayo told Juarez that Isa asked her to kill Al. Her accusations, plus Al's ravings about her trying to kill him, were the reasons why Juarez questioned Isa about Al's death. But Tolentino gave her an alibi her for the car crash, and Chayo couldn't prove that Isa asked her to off Al, when she herself admitted that she did it because Al asked her to.
 

We are still waiting on the cleaned up audio of Al and Isa's conversation, and for the phone records of Julian's calls to Dion. I hope the writers haven't forgotten them. Why are they taking so long?


 

Oh yeah, and the lab results of the drops.
 

Congrats soon-to-be-abuela again Jardinera. Whenever I think of grandparents and grandkids, I remember how Alex Haley calls their relationship a wonderful conspiracy.

Insightful conversation about the devil's desires. I am so ready for his house of cards to tumble.
 

Thanks and thanks! Man, this thing has run so long I hardly remembered the details about Rosario and the alibi with Juarez. The recording will come in handy then, won't it! Glad somebody has a computerized memory!
 

Felicitaciones, abuela.
How wonderful for you and your family, Jardinera! Enjoy every minute of it.

TL
 

P.S. I am voting for a boda's interruptus myself!
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Bring on the break-in for the burgled briefcase! That is going to call for a popcorn and beer-fest!
 

I'm hoping that the wedding doesn't get that far along. I want Nat to walk in on Yago with another woman. But I've already bought my bottle of good Cabernet for the break in.
 

I have a bottle of Yago Sangria for the wedding...
 

Thanks sooo much for the recap, what a delight, and congrats on the upcoming addition to the family.
Isadora and Cay play their parts so well. I noticed how similar Mir and Cam are (except in the way they dress). They are both strong, no-nonsense and charming, and Anna is attached to both, except that she prefers Cam's dress style. It makes sense that Dan and Mar love them both.

Let's hope that the Luzma storyline is quickly fixed, New Girl's involvement is a bit of a stretch, almost as if they brought her into the show and were not quite sure what to do with her so the writers came up with the surrogate wife role. Maybe I'm wrong since I felt the same way about the former Brat Girl.

Yola
 

Yola, I thought the same about New Girl and Bratgirl. Maybe they're relatives of the producer or he owes their parents a favor so he gave them a speaking part in the TN. Both of them seemed quite unnecessary to the story. Although Bratgirl has finally had some usefulness, albeit late in t he game.
 

Jardinera - Thanks for all the fabulous detailing. Congrats on your upcoming grandbaby!

Enjoyed reading all the comments. Add me to the list of admirers of Hipolito (Luis Gatica). In the Mexican crime drama El Pantera, Gatica played a corrupt district attorney, always dressed in a dark suit and tie with his hair smoothed back. So different from the roles I've seen him play in TNs.
 

I think I went a little overboard with the HP list--it's growing like kudzu.

Highpoints:

Dan does his protecting his women thing with Agustina.
Pablo decides Cam needs to know what’s going on with her mother right away and tries to call her.
Ileana actually may be useful for a change.
The Scooby Book Group realize Miriam will find out about Cam and Dan if she reads Rafa’s book.
Hipolito has caught on about Luz and Pablo.
Piedad tells Luz to leave LMQ and offers to go with her.
Abe has redeemed himself completely by explaining to, and asking for forgiveness from, Miriam.
Ileana actually has a Scooby moment with a rather good plan.
Agustina continues to take full responsibility for her part in her mess.
Cam and her mama have a bittersweet moment.
The Scoobies band together to get Agustina some comforts for her jail stay.
Hipolito stands by his family.
The Hipolitos decide to stay until Agustina is out of danger.
Ileana steals the mojo juice.
Pablo tells Luz their separation is temporary.
NG still can’t make any headway with Pablo.
Hipolito is there to comfort his daughter.
Miriam actually told Dante what most of Viewerville has been saying: She would not want to be with someone who doesn’t love her.
Budgekin siting.
Miriam finds Dan’s “C” necklace.
Pablo continues to resist NG’s “charms”.
Miriam begins to see the light re: Dan’s behavior towards Cam and her.
Ileana is becoming human.
Dan and Mariano have a heart-to-heart.
Mariano is honest with Cam.
Rafa has changed a little toward Roman.
Cam tells Luz to go back to the therapist for a different treatment.
Ileana, whose continued presence has been a mystery until now, brings the mojo juice to Mariano’s.
Rafa gives Dan good advice re: leaving Mexico (see LP).
Nice moment between Cam and the LMQ crew.
Ileana redeems herself.
Ileana tells Caye she hopes he makes up with his “real family”.
Dan has put on his thinking cap and tells Os to put a provision in the transfer that LMQ has to remain a working ranch, etc. for three years or the transfer is null and void.
Miriam asks Cam if was/is in love with Dan and Cam tells her to mind her own business.
The drops are being analyzed.
Aaron suggests that Amanda, Rodolfo and he devise a plan for Nat to find out the real reason Iago is marrying preferably before the wedding.++
Rafa tells Vivi that he wants to adopt Roman with her.
Cam slaps Dio (I wanted her to also spit in his face—pi** him off royally).
Mariano has to keep Cam from attacking Dio—a couple of times.
Budgekin siting.
Dante is accompanying his future wife (Viewerville is hoping), Teresa to Chile.
Teresa finally realizes she has no chance with Mariano.
Caridad reminds everyone that Miriam was advised not to travel.
Miriam agrees to see the doctor before going home.
Delusional Dio thinks that Cam will eventually respect and accept him.
Isa thinks she got the best of Ileana.
Cam listened to Viewerville and said they need to trace the checks.
Budgekin siting.
Mir tells Mar that they’re going back to Chile soon and he seems genuinely upset.
Cam finally learns the truth about Dio’s trussing Agustina up.
Dio might actually be pushing Iago to his breaking point.
Sounds like Gaston may have something on Dio.
Finally Agustina says something helpful—she overheard Dio say he did something to force Cholito to change her testimony re: Isa.
More Agustina help: she mentions the briefcase, where it is and that Os wrote down the password.
Dan starts telling Nat some hard truths.
Big LMQ family group hug.
Dan continues to tell Nat the truth.
Mar tells Caye about Isa and Dio’s involvement in Agustina’s trouble. He reminds his dad that Rocio really loves him and ask him to test Isa’s love.
Dan puts the caboose on the truth train and tells Nat Dio is involved in forcing Iago to marry her.
Hipolito comes up with a plan to steal the briefcase. HP if he succeeds. Major LP if he doesn’t.
 

Low Points:

Ileana is in love with Iago?
Dio’s smugness, arrogance and I’m just sorry we’re still too far from the end for him to get his NOW.
Pablo has to tell Nana and his mother that he and Luz are separating and he’s going back to the townhouse (and we know who his neighbor is: Substitute Wife).
Cam blows off Dan and calls Dio.
Leo seems to be planning his escape (HP if he only goes after Isa—not likely, though).
Dio is beyond repugnant. “I, I, I”???
Aaron is going to be leaving soon.
Amanda disregards Os’ advice and tells Nat that Dastardly Dad is responsible for Agustina’s arrest.
Aaron, for once, gives bad advice re: Nat confronting Dio.
Isa has manipulated Caye into giving her the ranch.
I hate Dio.
Leo’s prediction re: Luz and other men has come true.
As the Scoobies LOUDLY—what was that paper rattling all about?!—make food for Agustina, Cam says she’s willing to give up LMQ for her mother.
Cam asks Dan to sign over his part of LMQ to her right away in case she needs it to free her mother.
Did I mention that I hate Dio?
Nat still believes in Dio even though the whole freakin’ world has told her that he’s a bad man.
Once again, though there has been numerous situations that belie the fact that Miriam’s head will explode if she’s under stress, Dan lies to her.
I’m beginning to think that Aaron is a busybody.
Luz still insists on giving Pablo up.
Dan agrees to leave for Chile almost immediately.
Teresa can’t convince one of Agustina’s “friends” to testify for her.
NG decides to continue her pursuit of Pablo (though reluctantly).
Poor Ana is put in an impossible place having to lie to Miriam, who she really likes.
DIO IS A SOCIOPATHIC LIAR!!!!!!!! So looking forward to his anvil. It better be a good one.
Dan has the tickets for Chile.
Dio easily gets out of the lame plan to fingerprint him.
Poor Ana is upset that her new mom and sister (Viewerville is hoping) are going back to Chile.
Cam can’t convince Gladys’ son not to press charges.
Mir and Mar can’t see the chemistry between them even though it’s painfully obvious to Viewerville.
Piedad wants to put off the wedding and hopes they won’t have to leave LMQ.
Pablo and Luz have a sad, wordless, accidental meeting.
NG continues to make moves on Pablo-but is playing it a little more subtly.
Dan tells Nat about the recording implicating Isa in Cam’s kidnapping and asks the twit to keep it secret from Iago.
Like the twit she is, Nat is going to ask Dio about Iago.
 

Thanks for your list Nanette. ITA about Dio and his anvil not coming soon enough. Your comments on little Agatha were funny too.
 

I didn't want to ruin the perfect 100 comments, but I must tell you Nanette how much I enjoyed your lists.

ITA with all your Dio comments. I was LOL at your comment about Aaron being a busybody.
 

Nanette, I enjoyed this week's HP/LP list, esp. "Cam listened to Viewerville and said they need to trace the checks."

My guess/hope is that Leoncerdo will get killed after he goes after Hissadora. If he manages to get some revenge against her before he dies, that will definitely belong on an upcoming HP list. (This assumes, of course, that he never gets anywhere near Luzma.)
 

Outstanding Highs and Lows, Nanette! So many great lines....Nat the twit, all references to Ileana and her mojo juice, the "I hate Dio" references, and so, so many more.

NG's advances towards Pablo seem kind of half-hearted to me. Glad she told Luzma to stop asking her about it.
 

I think NG realizes that if she just came right out and came on to Pablo in an obvious way, he would shut her down real quick. This way, she gets to act like she's just being "friendly".
 

Thanks guys for all the kind words re: the lists.

Viewerville: The Questtion: is NG being more subtle or is she really ambivalent about going after Pablo?

My vote: I abstain. I really don't know!!!!
 

Nanette- I think she really wants Pablo, but she's also smart enough to realize she's fighting a losing battle, so she's not fighting that hard. She isn't delusional like so many "spare girls" in tns are. She knows Pablo loves Luzma and doesn't, and will never, have eyes for anyone else. Now, if only Luzma realized that too...
 

Vivi: I agree that she wants Pablo. I'm just not sure what her actions are showing us. She definitely isn't delusional, which is refreshing.
 

Nanette: Another great and chuckle-worthy listing.
My high's averaged more than the lows this week, but here they are:

Lowwwwwwws--
Dio easily gets out of the lame plan to fingerprint him.

Dan has the tickets for Chile.

Cam asks Dan to sign over his part of LMQ to her right away in case she needs it to free her mother.

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Highs--

Dan starts telling Nat some hard truths.

Cam slaps Dio (I wanted her to also spit in his face—pi** him off royally).

Dan has put on his thinking cap and tells Os to put a provision in the transfer that LMQ has to remain a working ranch, etc. for three years or the transfer is null and void.
 

Jardinera, sorry to jump in so late in the day. Your recap was stellar. So many bright moments, but you had me at the "banana peel" And ¡felicitaciones! for the new grandbaby.

I'm a little behind the 8-ball here, 'cause my mom took a turn for the worse on Friday, but things are stabilizing a bit. So fingers crossed!

Lots of great comments: cathyx's list of "can't wait for"s, Nanette's fabulous HP/LP, which reads like a comprehensive mini-recap; and Vivi's advice: ..."so I'm just going to sit back and let the final weeks action unfold."

The other thing I loved was Daniel and the "truth train". It's about time! Now for a little supper and I'll jump on the old exercise bike and watch with you all. —Agnes