Saturday, April 06, 2013
Amor Bravío #162 (Uni 157) Fri 4/5/13 Di-Day Arrives and We All Get a Wedding-Day Surprise
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El Diablo deserves far worse for what he just did to Augustina. It's probably a good thing that nobody at the wedding was there to see that. I hope Camila finds out about it before she has to face him again.
My surprise was that I didn't see anybody paying for their crimes and then while the credits rolled up, they show previews for Monday...
WHAT?
I don't where Martha's head is, but I seriously thought she knew the TN would end last night. I am glad it didn't, because she'll be back to watch it herself without commercials, and colorín colorado---
Wow, that was quite a wedding day surprise. Not even a bodas interruptus but no wedding at all! I looked at it several times as seeing the satisfaction on Amanda's face as well as the humiliation on Dio and Iago's faces was too fun. Which of the Scoobies will be the first to guess at Nat and Luzma and with Aaron? I think it might be Dan.
With the non-wedding, I'm really concerned about Hipolito.
I hope Aaron is able to do his Dr. Phil thing with Luzma.
Cathyx, I bow to your guessing prowess as the previews seem to allow us to think that Gussy may do a very non Catholic thing to save her daughter.
Her scene with Dio was so sad. She has more than paid for her stupidity and last night I wished she wasn't at the mothers as saints prison b/c normal TN prison women would have coached her on how to handle Dio.
He's evil and no amount of begging would help. This was the moment to embrace her prison status, grab a chair and make sure that man could not walk out of that prison (in real life I'm peace loving, really). Since death is too good for him, she needed to beat him senseless. What did she have to loose since she's already in prison? I know it would have been a beanie moment considering her personality and we did get Amanda's triumph. But I felt so badly for her as she cried in front of that odious man.
Can't wait for next week!
Speaking of the avances, I was surprised that they never said "El próximo lunes" but spoke only about el gran final on viernes at 10. At first I was afraid that they were somehow pre-empting everything on MTWTh. I'm almost positive that that's NOT what they're going to do, just a sign of how on edge I was last night as I was watching. :-)
I loved the non-boda scene at the end. Finally Amanda can gloat at Dio.
Not to mention that murder is beyond Augustina's capability.
El Diablo has no intention of letting Augustina out of prison no matter what Camila does. Nor will he spare Daniel or anyone else she cares about. This makes for a long hit list:
Daniel
Miriam (because she's likely to be a witness or seek justice)
Viviana
Rafael
Luzma
Piedad
Hipolito
Pablo
Maja
Amanda (for different reasons)
Since she is turning on him at this point, Hissadora is the biggest threat to El Diablo despite being vulnerable to Leoncerdo's obvious threat. I couldn't believe she could be foolish enough to not take the appropriate precautions knowing that the likelihood of him being out for her blood would be considerable.
Re Avances: During the final five, Univision refers to the Gran Final and give no daily previews. This is not necessarily how other networks in other countries handle this. In Mexico there was a 2-hour finale on a Sunday.
Karen, I swear I don't watch ahead, I never want to know ahead of time what is happening before we discuss it. It bothers me when people do and then comment. One can't help but reveal something that hasn't happened, maybe not realizing they did. And I'm not certain that Aggie will actually do it. Maybe there will be an attempt but she lives, or she learns that Dion has been captured before she does it. For Camila's sake, I hope I'm right.
And I agree with UA, I don't think Dion would have any intention of letting Aggie off the hook once he gets Camila in bed.
Dan looked soooooooo handsome in that dark Charro suit. Mm, mm, mm.
The reason Gussie didn't whack him dead on the spot instead of groveling is that she hasn't been judged and sentenced yet, she still has hopes of getting out--that's why Teresa couldn't leave for Chile right away with Dante and the others--who may not be going anyway.
Why oh why did they show that tower in the prison yard? This is TMI for our busy minds.
I agree, Amanda should have waited a little longer for a greater effect, but Padre was beginning to have fits and she didn't want him to keel over.
I hated seeing Daniel and Camila absolutely and totally avoiding each other. The last time they were there, it was for their wedding.
Natalia's no-show actions may thwart Isa's plans to be w/o people at BV, which may save Cayo's life. Still loving Mena's or Paquita's ref to Cayetano as "CayeTanDrogado." Too funny!
Isadora is very arrogant and believes she is untouchable. Dionisio is the same way. This "I B Untouchable" attitude is what will lead to both of their downfalls.
I still don't think the BV Caporal left like he was told to.
I just wonder what's going to happen with Yago now.
I was glad to see the three Albarran brothers together in the cause of taking care of their father.
Having watched novelas since 1995 (gosh, I feel old!), I have long been disappointed that when we get to the Ultimas Capitulos, the previews often fall off to a kind of montage of scenes. It KILLS me that we don't have a Monday preview! However, we had previews longer than used to be the case, so I'm grateful for that.
Poor Agustina. I wish that she and her two smart prison buddies could be out, letting loose on Dio and Isa. They could be a formidable trio! They have certainly seen the worst of men and the criminal justice system.
And Padre Anselmo. He's certainly right that Teresa and Dante need to take good care with regard to the baby and pregnancy and the future. He does, after all, foster a group of needy children. But he was a bit harsh on what was a joyous occasion for the parents -- who didn't seem to mind his crabbiness since they were lost in their own happiness.
Have fun, Jardinera. What an episode to recap! I think that all of the recappers are going to have a wild week.
I have a lot of faith in Hipolito, not so sure I buy the story about working for the locksmith though. Don't know how he is going to get around Omar & gang.
I was confused about the taxi in the caper, Hipo ran out, opened the back door, but when he ran away, he still had the briefcase. What was that about?
Is Dion a sociopath, psychopath, or a little bit of both? He is sickening. I wish Agustina could have had the strength to have said nothing...to just stand there and take in the garbage. It might have made Dion angrier and uglier, but he wanted the reaction he got from her and then some.
I'm sure it galled him that it was Agustina who asked for the divorce FIRST. Agustina who had the strength to want to dispose of this piece of human filth once and for all. Dion doesn't like that. Doesn't fit in with his control schemes.
Such a powerful scene in that jail. I found myself torn between Agustina's anguish and Dion truly unmasking himself and showing the depths of his sick mind.
Honestly, I'm not sure what fate he should have. He and Hissadora are cruel and cold in their own ways, but I think it is Dion who is the sicker of the two.
I still think Iago is a candidate for an STD (no, cathyx, I do NOT look ahead...this is my own thought however unfounded it may be). Would serve that jerk right.
Hissadora's reptilian outfits have made me laugh at times, but the little number she wore for the "wedding"...YIKES!!!
The Fair Maid Miriam wasn't exactly overjoyed to see Camila at the wedding, was she?
I will so miss this story and this great group of commenters/recappers.
Fatima
Loved the look on Amanda's face. Dio's was good also. He'll be plotting revenge. Also the look on Cayetano's face was good, his son is worthless.
I was confused about the taxi in the caper, Hipo ran out, opened the back door, but when he ran away, he still had the briefcase. What was that about?
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Hipolito (with stuffed briefcase) took the cab to the market. Got out of the cab & went to the market.
Dio's thugs followed Hipolito to the market, called Omar & told him they followed the man (Hip) to the market.
Hipolito waited until they drove away, unzipped his jacket and gave Rodolfo the briefcase. He also took off his jacket & fake mustache.
They then left out of the back of the market & went to Osvaldo's.
Apparently the wedding had been delayed for a long, long time. That's why Padre Anselmo was pissed. The wedding had to be delayed so that everyone (Dio, Isa, Yago, etc) would be at the wedding and not back at Dio's house so Hipolito can break in and get the evidence.
Natalia is presumably with Aaron in the remote village in Chiapas.
I see a time jump next week.
All this might suggest that Dio did not know that the briefcase heist was in process and was fooled by Nati's cleverly put request for the bachelor party to be at his house. He had simply taken the items out of the briefcase and hidden them elsewhere.
Or, he suspected that something was up and hid the documents elsewhere. And, maybe he was on to the heist. Knowing there was nothing in the briefcase, there was no need to follow Hipolito further.
I was glad to see the conversation yesterday about the producer bumping into Daniel on his way to the men's room. I figured that had to mean something. Again, nothing is wasted here.
Addendum for Vario--Hip probably knew he would be followed, after all, he stayed in the house longer than it would have taken to deliver flowers. Sure enough there were some of Dio's henchies watching him. Once they saw him staggering inside, they called Omar to tell him that it *was* a market guy and Omar told them they could return home.
Hip also looked back to see the black suv take off. He must have thought he still wasn't out of the woods, so he waited two more seconds before getting rid of the stuff. He handed off the clothes & mustache to a real market person and headed out the back.
I noticed that Dio returned home during the party with a briefcase.
Variopinta - was that a briecase Dio had or his Victoria secret stuff for Cam? I thought it was the latter.
I'm hoping one of the preview scenes was Dio's imagination as it showed him nuzzling Cam's neck and she looked nauseous.
I'm not trying to ignore the obvious but if Dio is a lying liar who lies why would our poor heroine think her sleeping with him will release her mother? I know we've speculated on what he could possibly give to the police but we all know he's not doing a thing to possibly implicate himself. And hasn't Cam seen enough of his mess to realize even if she stayed with him for the rest of her life, she wouldn't see her mom?
Looks like Hipo is going to break in before Dio realizes anything is missing from the 1st job, so the place wont be under extra vigilance.
Also, if you saw the preview of him nuzzling her neck and she has a look of disgust on her face, then it won't be a fantasy of his, just sayin'.
I think that as Dion gets closer to what he wants, Camila and MQ, then his sickness and weirdness are coming closer to the surface. Pretending that Camila was in the negligee was total perv. Good acting.
I also think that if Yago were going to have an STD, it would have come out before the wedding. It's not needed now for the wedding to get called off.
Iago has no regard for women...not even his own mother, so it might be a punishment to fit the bill.
Again...these are my musings and not a spoiler. It's kind of fun trying to guess the minds of the writers. I sure hope this bunch comes up with another novela very soon.
Fatima
Please ... I do not wish any type of STD especially HIV on promiscuous Yago. It's scary thinking how many innocent non suspecting women he would infect.
That would never happen. Not would it be likely to matter because I doubt that would spring Augustina.
Speaking of the negligee, I'm glad some of the other commenters were more eagle-eyed than I was. I really did think that when Dio returned to Nati's party, he was carrying his Real Briefcase. I was surprised that no one at the party said anything (something calm like "Oh my god, we're dead!). But I just looked again, and sure enough, it's the bag with the newly purchased negligee.
I can't decide whether I'm even more of an old f*rt than I thought, but the dresses that Hissa and Teresa wore to the non-boda seemed to me outrageously inappropriate. If it was just Hissa, I wouldn't give it a second thought. It just shows her to be the puta that she is. But Teresa? Her dress barely extended down below her, um, whatever.
I was surprised that the camisole he bought was black. I would have thought he'd go for white or pink.
I'm with you Jardinera about the order of things with Dante and Teresa. I must be old fashioned, but I prefer the order to be, meet, fall in love, (Ok, you can have sex but with protection), get married, have children. But Viv and Rafa are adopting without being married also, so I guess the times they are a-changing. I understand that more people in the US are having children out of wedlock than in wedlock now.
Cathyx - you are right regarding the look on Cam's face and all I have to hold onto is TN #15 that the heroine usually only sleeps with her one-true-love. I also can't imagine the writers traumatizing us like that.
UA - its b/c you brought up how serious the crime was (and not being able to just undo it) that I asked. I know as Cathyx mentioned the good guys usually always believe the bad guys. Thankfully Dan will NEVER believe ANYTHING Dio says.
The avances were screwy I agree. That's why I don't like watching them either. I checked the number of episodes and don't worry, there are going to be five more complete ones.
Back atchall later!
Since this is arguably one of the worst predicaments a novela heroine can be in, why is this happening yet again to Sylvia Navarro?
I am afraid that in a TN where the uncle rapes the niece, predictions for what is expected are not possible.
Good thing it is at the end or I would worry for Amanda after the look on Dio's face when she announced the non-boda. I thought Yago had the grace to look ashamed. His father, to me, almost looked like he was relieved that a nice girl was not marrying his scum of a son, but that must have been my misinterpretation, since the baby would be an "Albarron."
Cindy
If she disowned the devil, of course.
About Teresa's clothing, maybe she wants to flaunt what she's got until she can't anymore.
I thought a sweet scene was when Camila gave Hipolito a hug to thank him for what he's about to do, and it took him by surprise. He had such a surprised/appreciative look on his face at that moment.
But that was really an award winning scene by two amazing vet actors. Bravo to Cesar and Olivia!
I think that was an evening dress Dion bought, not a camisole/lingerie. He also took out some jewelry out of a safe deposit box in his office to go along with it. Since we have been speculating about where Dion might have moved his passports, that caught my eye, and I wondered if the writers also wanted us to take note.
Even if Hip gets back into the office, he would likely not be able to break into a safe/lockbox. And he has a high probability of getting caught in the office this time if/when Dion comes back early from the non-wedding. Please, don't let him get hurt! Piedad would then have a missing daughter (we know she took off with Nat); murderous rapist brother on the loose; a hurt (dead?) fiancé; and the threat of breast cancer hanging over her head. Yikes!
Loved the ending, and can't wait for your take on Amanda's crowning (and crowing) moment. And we get more of it next episode too. Oh goody!
One correction: The gang met and opened the briefcase in Osvaldo’s office. Not MQ.
As for the question of the good guys believing the bad guys, I think they all know Dion is a lying liar who lies. No one but Camila is even considering that she should give in to him-- not just because it's gross and debasing, but also because they don't believe him. But as someone pointed out earlier this week, if Camila thinks there's even a sliver of a chance of getting her mom out, then she'll take it. But she's going through the effort of exhausting ALL other possibilities to sink Dion first. Now there is also the question of keeping Dan safe/alive. If he insists on staying in Mexico, that will continue to be a threat Dion can hold over her.
Because, after all, what else would get Daniel back in a charro suit while he's still with Miriam? Or get her into a dress not suitable for a 1950s housewife?
I'm not sure what I thought of Vivi's dress; it is an interesting variation on her usual style. But I can understand Camila covering up, with Dionisio's demands hanging over her like a dark cloud. (And actually I'd like to have her jacket to teach in. I collect long jackets. But it would be better with trousers.)
But of all the outfits I probably liked Pablo's best. That boy can rock a charro suit, and I love the way the color of the tie and trim picks up on the golden streaks in his hair. Iago didn't look nearly as special, and unfortunately Cayetano demonstrates how unforgiving this kind of outfit is. I'm wondering if the actor playing Mariano refuses to wear a tie, since the lack thereof spoils his outfit and doesn't seem to fit with his character.
Rocio should not have gone with the frilly blouse--or perhaps we're to assume that she overindulged in Miriam's cookies and couldn't fit in the dress she planned to wear? And Rafa and Dionisio (funny to mention those two in one breath) look so drab in their business suits compared to the rest of the male cast.
I cannot imagine criticizing Agustina for her reaction to Dionisio. He was so horrifically cruel in that sense, so utterly disgusting. In her shoes I probably would have lost it much worse. Sobbing? I would have been gibbering in rage.
I loved Cami's winter white jacket too, but I also loved the black pencil skirt that was just the perfect length for the jacket. Clean lines, and looked really good on her. She wore black and white to PabLuz's wedding too-- black, short, strapless dress, with the shock of white peeking out on top and at one part of the hem. Remember the steamy love scene later when Dan insisted on taking it off her? *sigh*
Amanda was in all black. Sexy, but also a good strong look for confronting Dion and Yago.
Miriam needed that pink to soften the hard look on her face when she spotted Camila. But wouldn't Dan's black and silver charro suit look much better next to Camila's black and white outfit? I think she also had silver detailing on her belt.
I understand Teresa y Dante more than Vivi Y Rafa.
T & D have only had sex once, they are not in love yet, so living together is a good idea. If it doesn't work, less messy than a divorce.
Vivi & Rafa love each other. I'm sure they will marry.
Carlos Moreno Laguillo, the producer is working on Aroma de lobos. A remake of Imperio de Cristal. 2 of the cast are Cristian de la Fuente & Leticia Calderon. It will be after Mentir para Vivir.
If Hipo was a good locksmith, he can get into that safe. Was it key or combo?
Vivi is just being stubborn about the marriage thing at this point. I hope by the end she finally says yes.
In the past Dio told Amanda she was "nothing," just as he did to Gussie last night. Loved seeing "nothing" Amanda stick it to Dio with a no-show wedding.
I told myself halfway throught the epi that this is the "darkest before the dawn" episode. It was painful to watch! I guess they have to bring us to our lowest so we can appreciate all the good stuff at the end. Like in that horrible Auggie/Dio scene, I kept telling myself maybe we will get a scene next week w Dio behind bars and Auggie in all her purple finery paying him a visit! I want him behind bars more than I want him dead. He's always been such a facade, acting like he's above the law, and I think for a sociopath like him, coming to terms with the fact he's a common crook would be his worst fate.
I've always loved the word "jamas", and when Amanda said it at the end of her wedding speech it gave me chills. I hope that FABULOUS speech was a taste of things to come next week.
A lot is ear marked for "after the boda":
Lab results
Camila sleeping w Dio
Hissy killing Caye
Just another Saturday night at the MQ!!!
Thanks again, Jardinera!
Katy
May El Diablo's final fate be the worst humiliation ever. Let it include Alonso's problem.
UA: if there is a duet in opera, is it considered an aria? I've always thought of arias as being great solo moments.
See you guys tomorrow. I'll be out for a while at the Film Forum, but won't be out late.
Be interested to know what you see at the FF.
CME and AB are my favs. Since he was involved with both, I'm very much looking forward to any of his TNs.
I get to pick up where Amanda left off in this episode and that is an amazing scene. I have to wonder what revenge El Diablo will cook up for that bit of public humiliation, although that would be difficult because anyone who is present in that scene would suspect him if anything happens to Amanda.
I missed it on TV, the time wasn't convenient. Silvia is my favorite.
Dio is too busy with his other "projects" to have time to cook up anything for Amanda & she will be looked after. At least Nat & Luz are safe.
Yeah, not so smart for Eleuterio and Rod to get drunk on the job, when Leon is on the loose. Eleu said something like: “Grieve today; mourn tomorrow; find someone new the day after tomorrow.” But of course Rod can’t think of anyone else except Nat.
I thought Leon said “mi Luzmita”; I didn’t hear anything about a biznieta/o. Did the captions get confused?
It was funny when Miriam asked how this happened when Dante and Teresa announced their baby news, and Dante asked her if she really wanted him to explain the mechanics/how. LOL!
It was good to see the thee Albarran brothers together and united about their father, and then later all of them with Ana heading to the church. They just need to root out that vibora Isa, and reintegrate Rocio. Other than being humiliated by being dumped at the altar and exposed as a spineless jerk who was bought by Dion, I really don’t need to see anything bad happen to Yago. I want him to make peace with his family and to be a real part of it, without the resentments towards Pablo and his mother.
I thought the same thing about Eleuterio and Rodolfo getting their drunk on. They will not be in any condition to defend MQ.
Can't wait for Isa and Caye coming back to BV and Leoncio spoiling Isa's fun. How will that acid be used? In the drink or spilled on her. I'm personally hoping for in her drink.
I'm also hoping that along with proof of Dion's guilt, Hipolito also takes that negligee.
Needless to say, I loved your way with words, esp. "tubby old hubby" (perfect, especially for the way he looked that day) and Dio "mentally measuring his ex for a pair of cement high-heels."
Wow! What a big job and so well done, from your description of Gussie's sad groveling and humiiation to the simple statement: Amada does blunt well!
Variopinta -- just thinking that if next (for me, Telemundo's Senor del cielo, I think it's called) flops, I will watch CME on line. I so loved La Mentira that I just couldn't watch CME, but the raves of all have been really convincing and I love both SN and Juan Soler.
I think that Leo thought Luzmita, but remind me, does he know that she lost the baby? I am thinking yes but can't remember for sure. Thank you.
I don't have Telemundo and narco stories are not up my alley, so I won't' "see" you at that novela.
Enjoy CME online.
I also love the theme song by Enrique Iglesias and Juan Luis Guerra. Guerra is an incredibly talented musician from the Dominican Republic. He is a grad of the prestigious Berkelee School of Music in Boston where he was awarded and honorary doctorate. He is also a multiple Latin Grammy and Grammy award winner. That CME theme song just makes me happy!
Fatima
I will be watching both Senor de los Cielos and QBA (I will join the recapping team for at least the beginning). My dvr is going to be very busy soon. :)
What is the other SN tn where her father/step-father makes an indecent proposal?
"And Dio? He is mentally measuring his ex for a pair of cement high-heels."
I've really gotten a kick out of Dionysio. He struts and gloats wonderfully, but he really has tried to squeeze too much fun into one day. Now with the wedding not going quite according to plans, this is bound to have an impact on his anticipated close encounter with Camila.
Since it seems inevitable, I'm eager to see what exactly he has planned for the evening. What's for dinner? Maybe keep it light... caviar and Champagne? Or perhaps a robust meal worthy of a man of such substance? Lambchops or quail would seem appropriate and of course oysters. Strawberries dipped in dark chocolate?
Will there be candles? Yes of course...zillions of candles and then a trail of rose petals with a giant rose petal heart on the bed.
For Camila, I think all that she will need is a simple elegant finely honed narrow dagger strapped unobtrusively to her inner thigh.
Carlos
I, too, thought it not smart that Eleutario and Rodolfo were drinking. Hopefully, it's all about Nat and not something they are going to use re: Leo.
Did Leo say something about Ana when he saw her? I thought he did.
Fatima: I have the CME theme song as my ringtone, now. Love it.
Carlos: "For Camila, I think all that she will need is a simple elegant finely honed narrow dagger strapped unobtrusively to her inner thigh."--I would hope so, but she won't think of it. All the other Scoobies would.
UA: House of Wax in 3D sounds cool. I love Vincent Price. One of my fav roles for him wasn't a "monster" role, though. It was his turn in Laura.
I'd like to verify that the Grand Finale is Thurs' and Fri's ep and not just Fri's.
Also, forgot to e-mail the HPLP list to myself. Will post it as soon as I can tomorrow.
Nanette
Nanette- Yes, Thursday and Friday are the gran final. I wonder how splitting it up into the two days will interrupt the flow of the episode.
I also nearly gagged several times throughout the show at Dio's pompous behavior and completely inflated opinion of himself. His treatment of Gussie was horrible, but she irritated me with her begging Dio to leave her hija alone. Does she still not get that Dio is pure, unadulterated evil, and does precisely what makes other miserable?
Enhorabuena, Amanda! She was fantastic. Just the right amount of snark with not one ounce of nerves. Loved it!
Yes, Yago has flirted with Vivi before, and it was on an occasion where she was taking pictures. I can't remember what the occasion was, though.
Looking forward to Isa's payback big time. Just hope Cayo manages to stay alive to see it all go down.
Vario--One suggestion for watching the chopped up version of CME--Read the recaps as you go along so you'll know what was left out. Be sure to look at the cast line-up at the beginning of the series and the character descriptions (see Cuando recap feed).
The comments are truly a wonderful addition, but then you'll never finish the 12 hours in even 24. I was disappointed that they left out some of Juan & Silvia's best canoodling before they got really mad at each other. But the make up was worth the wait.
Jar, you totally cracked me up!!!
Anita: good idea re: watching CME or any TN on disc. However, as other people have noted before, the DVDs are best for people who have seen the whole novela and want to revisit for highlights.
Vario: I think if it's possible, it might be better to watch it on YouTube and then use your DVDs for a trip down memory lane. This TN was awesome and deserves a full eps viewing.
OT: The 3D of Jurassic Park was a lot more like House of Wax than The Hobbitt. It does enhance the film, but it's a shame they couldn't make it a little more intense.
"The anvils are blowing in the breeze."
So let's head'em up...move'em out.
Carlos
Perhaps I should change mine back to The Execution of Lady Jane Grey to keep in the spirit.
OT: the pic I'm using now is my favorite painting. Hanging in LACMA.
I haven't had a chance to comment recently but I've enjoyed each and every recap and appreciate the dedication. My favorite description of the week was Mena's “The Perpetually Distraught and Distracted Dan". So true! LOL!
I really like how Teresa just walked into Dante's room and announced her pregnancy. No preamble, no apologies, no attitude, no demands. Good for her.
UtahDesert, "I wish Dante and Teresa would--at least briefly--consider him moving to Mexico, rather than her moving to Chile. She just got a great job offer--their professional situations appear to be at least comparable." I agree!
I think we were supposed to see Yago softening in his attitude with his mother. Usually he has had a cow (or is it a bull?) every time Rocio has talked to him or has even been mentioned to Yago since her "disgrace". In this last encounter, Yago was pretty calm.
I try to restrain myself about Gussie. Sometimes I just can't! Gussie has nothing to reproach herself for in regards to her mothering history as far as I can see. She may not be a genius, but she never caused her daughters harm. This whole "mothers who know how to be mothers" is way over the top.
Also, I'm not sure how I feel about the mom that took the rap for her son who killed his friend by accident. Though we don't know all the details and we are talking about the Mexican justice system--if it had happened in the U.S., I might be of the opinion she was not doing her son a favor by taking the blame for him.
If we can figure out that Natalia is likely with Aaron, doesn't it seem likely that Dioniso could think of that as well?
Having said that, Gussie did put El Diablo before her daughters when she married him and was very hostile toward Camila's relationship with Daniel. She was hostile to it from the beginning and interfered in it against Camila's expressed wishes/orders when Miriam arrived.
I do agree with you, though, about the mother who took the rap for her son. This is not right no matter what. If the shooting was accidental that was beyond unnecessary.
I've known too many people who do seem to have inherited certain personality traits for it not to occur. And why wouldn't it, we inherit so many other traits from our ancestors, personality has to be one too. They certainly have bred personality traits in and out of animals. But like I said earlier, environmental factors are also important, and both are what makes us so unique.
We don't know a lot about Luzma's father, but I got the idea that he wasn't a bad person. He certainly would have protected her from Leoncerdo.
Can't wait to see what happens to him.
As family, both Camila and Gussie might be expected to stick their nose into each others business to the extent their relationship could tolerate it. To some this is not right but it is certainly common.
Of course, as we know, Camila was right about Dionisio. Gussie about Dan--not so much.
That is the main thing she has to answer for.
I think to say that Gussie expected Camila to "knuckle under" to Dioniso is incorrect. Gussie was trying to make Dio happy and thought Dio's management of the ranch was a solution to Alonso's leaving that could make Camila's life easier as well (though I do know she was thinking more about Dio than Camila). I don't think Agustina felt there was any "knuckling under" to be done. She thought it could be a win-win situation for all! Wrong!
I think that except for Camila's relationship with Luis Gussie had disapproved of Camila's life choices. Being a large-animal veterinarian is certainly not a traditionally female occupation and while it may not be usual for a woman to run a ranch it would certainly not be unheard of. Women run businesses all the time and many are better at it than the men they know.
Camila had every right to choose her own administrator or do the job herself. Augustina had no right to interfere in that and Camila was well within her rights to be angry.
Isa’s arrogance is going to make her an easy target for Leo.
Our three LMQ vaqueros.
Isa overhears Mariano tell Iago about Dio’s demand of Cam.
Isa does not overhear Mariano tell Iago that she is poisoning their dad (thank you chauffer guy).
Roman is available for adoption.
Cam talks to Luz about overcoming her fear and has asked her therapist to make a house call.
Doubts about Miriam’s diagnosis.
Amanda finally accepts Os’ proposal.
Once again, glad that smart Nat is back.
Miriam is distancing herself from Dan.
Isa continues to underestimate Leo.
Dan punches Dio.
A Good Samaritan helps Dan.
Miriam confides in Mariano. Any time they spend together is good for Cam/Dan.
Rocio has definitely changed for the better. She even gives Roman hugs.
Isa still does not believe that Leo is any danger to her.
Dan gets a well-deserved tongue lashing from Aaron and Amanda.
Agustina signs her divorce papers.
Isa is going to cheat Dio out of La B’s sale profits.
Eleutario and Rodolfo—not just a pair of pretty faces.
Miriam and Mariano play with the kids (I wish she would take her shoes off, it’s dangerous and she looks silly).
MAJA!!!!!!!!!!!
Caye tells Yago he went to the attorney’s and not the doctor’s.
Isa’s doom is fast approaching with a knife and acid toting Leo.
Yago finally gets it that something is wrong with his dad.
Dio’s delusions continue. His take down is going to be FUN.
Iago asks the cook about Caye’s food preparation.
Dan realizes he made a stupid move when he confronted Dio.
Good doc does not want to let Miriam travel on bad doc’s say-so.
Pablo still won’t give up on Luz no matter how long it takes.
Nice mother/daughter moment between Nat and Amanda.
Miriam hears Dan call Cam “mi Camila”.
Luz gets her graduation certificate and it’s nice to see Irene again.
Nice Aaron/Amanda moment.
Dorotea tells Cam about Piedad. Cam immediately calls for an appointment for her.
Iago “accidentally” spills Caye’s coffee and insists on getting the doctor’s report.
Rafa’s reaction to Roman’s calling him “papa”.
Cam bullies Piedad into going to the doctor’s.
Dante talks about his feelings for Teresa as grumpy Dan is mad he wasn’t in on the forbidden love secret.
Teresa is happily pregnant.
The doc starts Dan thinking about the oddness of Miriam’s first doc and the missing test results.
Dio continues to rub his rendezvous with Cam in Isa’s face.
A very lovely Dorotea/Eleutario moment.
Though sad, a nice Dan/Amanda/Nat family moment.
Luz has a suitcase and asks her mom for a blessing (HP because the suitcase means she’s not thinking suicide).
Hipolito in a fake mustache.
Square Hipolito.
Hipolito offers to go back and get the documents he saw on the desk and check out the locked drawer he noticed.
Teresa tells Dante straight away about the baby.
Nat doesn’t care that she’s setting her dad up.
Dante is happy about the baby.
Dante decides to stay in Mexico until Teresa is able to go to Chile.
Cam hugs Hipolito.
The Alberran brothers unite to save Caye.
Leo overhears that Isa and Caye will be alone on the ranch that evening.
Teresa gives a little grin to Dante after her brother’s verbal beat down.
Teresa and Dante share their news with Dan and Miriam.
Rocio shows up at the wedding and is the most gracious one in that group.
Eleutario stays at the ranch to keep Rodolfo company.
Amanda gets the well-deserved honor of telling Dio and Yago—in front of everybody—that there will be no wedding.
Numerous Budgekin sightings.
Mariano calls to warn Isa that Leo has escaped. Dude, stop interfering.
Luz once again rejects Pablo, after telling him how much she loves him.
Os tells Dan what Dio wants from Cam.
Caye is totally out of it.
Isa won’t allow Mariano to go to the “doctor’s” with them.
Agustina is going to be sentenced next week.
Anvil alert: Luz does not want to live through another encounter with Leo (looks like this anvil alert was a false alarm).
Anvil alert: Hipolito will protect his family to the death.
The new doc is going to contact the old doc (was hoping this would turn into a HP and the old doc would tell the new doc the truth).
Isa gets Caye to sign the new will.
NG is working her black magic.
Mariano is upset because Cam didn’t call him to take her to see her mother?! Stalkerish.
Dio’s creepy self-convo re: Cam.
Dan puts the plan in danger.
Dio again shows what a coward he is letting his henchmen give Dan a beat down.
Dan has added difficulties to an already difficult situation.
Cam is forced to promise her mother she won’t do anything that will make her lose LMQ (basically lying to her).
Nat says goodbye to Rodolfo*sigh*.
Roman = Major buzz kill (re: Nat/Rodolfo).
Dio threatens Dan’s life.
Cam continously refuses to spit in Dio’s face.
Dio plans on delivering the divorce papers to Agustina in person.
Reliving Luz/Pablo’s happy moments (under these circumstances).
ANOTHER “final” goodbye between Cam and Dan.
Dan lets ANOTHER opportunity to tell the, quite obvious to Viewerville, healthy Miriam the truth.
Luz sees Leo and heartbrokenly calls for her mama.
Hipo and Piedad think Luz imagined Leo being at LMQ. Even if they believed it was all her imagination, would it have killed them to have kept that to themselves?
Leo knows what room Luz is in (I think it would be hard for him to get into the house, though).
Piedad has a lump SIX eps before the end of the TN.
The news is not optimistic from Teresa. Re: Agustina.
Aaron tells the Scoobies he’s leaving before Nat’s wedding (LP because it will be sad to see him go).
Luzma continues to make her plans for Pablo.
Poor Piedad is scared to death.
Roman has to go back to the orphanage until he is officially adopted.
Cam and Dan have another of their sad, I’m longing for you but I won’t cave, meetings.
Dio’s creepy Cam shopping.
The new doc says that he doesn’t recommend Dan and Miriam travel back to Chile, but it’s up to them (we know M won’t want to delay).
Agustina continues to have a hard time in jail.
Dio’s disgusting , and rather disturbing, moment with the dress he bought for Cam.
Dio tells Agustina the truth about how he feels about her and what he’s going to do to Cam. No anvil too large for this one.
Poor Agustina’s desperate pleas to Dio not to harm Cam.
Padre Anselmo is furious at Teresa and Dante.
Miriam refuses to get more tests.
Eleutario and Rodolfo are on the way to getting sh**tfaced.
“Cam continuously refuses to spit in Dio’s face.”
“Eleutario and Rodolfo are on the way to getting sh**tfaced.”
LOL!
Cam supposedly has only two options left in the management of this rancho: sacrifice herself or her mother. Actually, she might have a third. I think Cam should turn the tables on Dio and make him put his money where his big mouth is. After all, she's got more power over him than she realizes. After all, he's the one creaming his shorts, not her. Play the dude till he gives in to her demands. Make him believe she's really interested, tease him unmercifully and hold back till he lets Gussie go "as a gesture of good faith". Put a wire on and tape him; then go to the police with black charges. What's she got to lose at this point?
As I wrote that I realized that he had two motives for that shopping trip:
-- Getting something very Frederick's of Hollywood to tart Camila up
-- Forcing her to change clothes eliminates any risk to him that she is wearing a wire, particularly as she is supposed to put this thing on in order to take it off.
I think Camila is too honest and too pure of heart to be able to pull off what you suggest. I am less virtuous than she is and I couldn't do it. I don't think even Ximena could have done that.
Thanks so much for HP/LP. Always a HP of the new week!
One small clarification, don't know if it will figure in the gran final, but you have as a low point that Agustina will be sentenced next week. There have been a number of references that her trial [juicio] will be next week, not the sentencing.
Huge thanks to all recappers! for help in untangling this complicated TN.
Clara
Thanks everyone for the comments on the lists.
I had forgetten Miriam heard Dan call Cam “mi Camila” when he got off the phone with her. When Miriam finally knows the truth, it certainly shouldn't be a "shock" with all the clues she's been given.
Mariano calls to warn Isa that Leo has escaped. Dude, stop interfering.
Isa gets Caye to sign the new will.
Dio’s disgusting , and rather disturbing, moment with the dress he bought for Cam.
Dio tells Agustina the truth about how he feels about her and what he’s going to do to Cam. No anvil too large for this one.
Fav Hi Pts.:
Amanda gets the well-deserved honor of telling Dio and Yago—in front of everybody—that there will be no wedding.
Isa’s doom is fast approaching with a knife and acid toting Leo.
Yago finally gets it that something is wrong with his dad.
Nat doesn’t care that she’s setting her dad up.
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