Caray, Caray!

Well, here it comes -- the bad guys will now begin to attack each other!

Will LeonCerdo throw that acid in Hissa's face? I'm sure that will be her anvil. creepy.

How far will Camila go before she turns down Dionicio? Will there be a chance for Dan to save the day? We'll just have to see.

 

@ Vivi in DC ---Yes, what Dan did was rash and stupid, but I really disagree with your take on Cami giving Os permission about informing Dan about the deal. The fact that she didn't say no DOESN'T mean that she said yes. And it doesn't matter if "poor" Dan feels left out from all this, what matters is carrying out their plans without making any mistakes (because they can't afford it!) and Dan does nothing but make things worse. And what irks me most is that they keep saying that he should be kept out of all this & be "at arms length" as much as possible, YET they continue to update him on what's going on all the time! They just can't stay true to their word! And haven't they figured it out by now that Dan can be nothing but impulsive and always acts out of his own stupidity??? He always acts from his stupid emotions and not with his head just like when he assaulted poor Alonso! (Yeah what he did was wrong, but he apologized for it. There was no need for Dan to know & act on it.) The ONLY time I approved of such an act was against Leo because he DID deserve that beating, but that's it. So anyway, who cares if Dan did it out of honor of "defending" his "wife" - she doesn't need saving! He's NOT her "white knight in shining armor"! She can take care of herself and he should REALLY stay out of her business already! Sure, he's the one who put her in this mess in the first place, but he should only be focusing on the part of JUSTICE from this and that's it. Then leave already.

~ posted by not-a-dan-fan.
 

Paquita: when I saw the acid, it gave me the shudders.
 

Not a spoiler, an obvious conclusion:

An acid attack? I don't think I'll be able to watch that, even if it is on Hissadora.
 

Thanks for the recap. I missed details of Dio's threats.

And gag me too. Good thing Mir did not break a leg playing tag in heels.

I will enjoy watching justice being dealt. I did not think that the writers would go through Caye signing away the ranch, but they did. Bring it on Leo!

Cindy
 

Paquita,

Thanks so much. What a clear, clean and snarky recap -- smoother than the episode.

It was a good one, however, full of developments that nicely narrow the possibilities as we move forward.

I had to laugh at your description of Miriam, the fair cookie lady. Her scenes with Mariano's branch of the Albarran family were really a bit much, but nicely build the case for her absorption into their ranks. I did wonder exactly what Refugio and Roccio had in mind with that look they shot each other as they described Miriam as Ana's second mother.

Ah, yes, Ramon. He lacks the proverbial "inside" voice.

The acid disappointed me. I hate these endings where the villain, usually a woman, is disfigured. It feels so sadistic. On the other hand, from the perspective of our tongue-less one, turnabout is fair play.

Our two lovely young women, Nati and Luzma, both pondering ways to fly the coop. In the real world, I would probably say that it's not a bad idea for any young, promising woman to leave this protected (or not!) world. In this case, they both need to stay put and be united or reunited with the good men that love them. I am a traditionalist when it comes to novela endings. I plan to be sitting on my couch next Friday night, eating popcorn and weeping my way through multiple love scenes and weddings.
 

Paquita- Loved the smooth flow of this recap. Wonderful work!

What a striking difference between how totally unconcerned Isa is about the threat of Leo, and what we can tell is shaping up to be a gruesome revenge. Acid and a big knife. Yikes!

The backstabbing between the villains begins. Isa is right that Dion is putting their deal (and freedom) at risk by adding his sick obsession with Camila into the MQ deal. What will he do when he realizes Isa has cut him out of the BV deal?

Traveling Lady- I found that look between Rocio and Refugio to be interesting too. And then they purposely left Mir-Mar alone. I think they may be trying to do some matchmaking. Rocio never did think that veterinarian Camila was feminine enough. And everyone knows Dan really loves Cam. So maybe she figures she can do a little switcheroo and get a more suitable daughter-in-law and feminine mother figure for Ana?

Yay! Maja sighting. She seems to be well and enjoying taking over the whole bed, now that Dan isn’t there. Here’s a cute pic of SN in bed with one of her own doggies, a rescue pooch: https://twitter.com/silvnavarro/status/223612528142467072/photo/1

 

Acid attacks are nothing new in novelas, but in past instances I've seen acid was a woman's weapon (and you don't need much). Interestingly, the Karmageddons that involve acid usually happen to the younger Femme Fatal villains, like the junior Hissadoras.

Speaking of whom, it really makes my blood boil when women say such things as "I am more woman than you" and there is no comeback for the target of that comment. In both cases in this story the target is Camila, who gets this crap from both Ximeana and Hissadora, both of whom basically sold themselves to men to get what they want. In other words, to be more of a woman is to be a whore.

If that is what it takes, I'd rather be the Borg Queen.

This is a far cry from Rocio's comments about Camila being less than (her concept of) feminine.
 

Thank you, Paquita! Such a great recap. Particularly love your description of the fair Miriam's visit:)

What is a tipazo? I'm figuring it's something good since you referred to your Rodolfo as one.

Well, I guess my fury at Isa is over the edge because I wouldn't mind her being disfigured. I haven't seen other TNs so I'm not familiar with this being a common occurrence for women, but Isa's vanity is off the charts so I wouldn't mind that outcome. However, I do agree that if it's something commonly used against women, then it needs to go in future.

I know what Dan did to
Dio was stupid (only somewhat imo), but I can't say that I blame him. I probably would have reacted much the same way, but being a 5'2" woman, I would have been armed (no, I don't own any guns personally...just TN talk).
 

UA - Whatever Isadora's fantasy about herself, she's also no doubt jealous of Camila.

Camila has had multiple men interested in her. She's young, fresh and natural.


 

Marta- "un tipo" is a guy; "un tipazo" is a great/awesome guy. Camila has often referred to Mariano as un tipazo...when she is telling him gently that she's still not interested in him, despite his many virtues.
 

Thank you, Vivi! I had heard it before but wasn't sure I understood exactly what it meant. Makes sense it's connected to "tipo."
 

Traveling Lady, I don't doubt that. Camila also grew up with a lot of advantages Hissadora didn't have such as a loving (if flawed) mother and educational opportunity. Hissadora could have done the latter after she did her first husband in unless she was foolish enough to think his money would last forever.

If Hissadora manages to kill Cayetano you know the boys will contest the will. All three of them heard from his own mouth in a lucid period what he intended to do. What surprises me is there is no standard practice in this tech age of videotaping a person reading their will aloud to demonstrate a sound state of mind; a lawyer in a Law & Order episode from years ago talked about doing this. With all the digital video being easy enough for children to do there is no good reason not to do this.

Back to the land grab: We can assume that Estevez has at least a superficially legitimate business and Nat once took a phone call from him. Why didn't she remember that once they knew about the collusion between Hissadora and El Diablo? They could have stopped this much sooner if they had gone to Estevez with the truth and once he regained his cool he could have gotten the law out on this evil pair.
 

Urban- Remember Nat never managed to get any info on Estevez other than his last name-- not even a phone number. That's why at the time Cam and Dan tried to follow Dion to the meeting but he was already gone. I guess they could try to do a search for a developer names Estevez, but that's a pretty common last name.
 

How about his phone records? Oh, that's right; we still don't have the cell phone records proving the connexion between him and Julio.

This raises the next crisis: Camila's Tosca moment is pending. What if she decides to pretend to go through with it and... just before he puts his infernal hands on her she puts a knife to her own throat? If I had written this that is an option I would have explored. Not that she would actually kill herself, but I wonder if it has occurred to her that her submission would change nothing.
 

Thanks very much, Paquita, for a great recap that cleared up much that I missed. I especially enjoyed your saying about Dio: "He walks away bwa-ha-ha-ing as he goes."

And yes, I agree, Roman definitely shouted his lines. Arrgh. I can't stand listening to him. Indeed, I don't even enjoy watching him; he's not a very talented actor even when quiet.

I was a little surprised at your "Gag me" response to Rocio's saying that Ana sees Miriam as a second mother. I just assumed it was not very subtle foreshadowing, but it didn't bother me. What DID bother me was Rocio's PSA about how she now understands that people should be valued for their character, not their money or status. And then Refugio and Ana add to this morality play. Gag me.

One thing I didn't understand was Aaron's saying that he's glad Daniel "will be in Chile tomorrow." I was puzzled when I heard him say this in Spanish, and I assumed I must have misheard, but apparently not. I thought Daniel and Miriam were leaving for Chile on Sunday, the day AFTER Natalia's scheduled boda. ??

Traveling lady, you made an excellent point about how it's always the women who get disfigured by acid (or other means) on TNs. However, I also agree when you go on to say "On the other hand, from the perspective of our tongue-less one, turnabout is fair play."

Actually, I was a little surprised that LeonCerdo was able to read ACIDO as fast as he apparently did. Though it also occurred to me that perhaps he DIDN'T read it and mistook it for water! Hmmm...I wonder if he's thirsty.



 

Maybe Aaron meant “tomorrow”, as in really soon? Like how you say I'm already there, meaning you'll be somewhere soon? Or maybe the actor just made a mistake and they left it in.

Juanita- LOL about Leo being thirsty. Perhaps he'll think it's tequila? He hasn't gotten his drunk on since he's been in jail, and we all know how he used to like his liquor. Unfortunately for Isa, "acido" is a pretty easy word for a newly literate person to read, and Leo's probably been around workroom tools/products enough to have a pretty good idea about what it is and what it does, without even reading the label.

 

What could be very interesting would be if Leoncerdo uses this against Hissadora and the resulting fight causes him to get some in the mouth, making it impossible for him to eat normally if he survives. That could cause him to off himself, which would be better for everyone.
 

Thank you Paquita, we're down to the wire with this one. I'll miss yours and everyones wit when this is through.

I agree with so much that everyone has already said.
Isa is not at all worried about Leo. I wonder why she is so confident that he won't hurt her? And yes, the acid is very cliche. I thought that he might put it in her drink, or replace her drink with it and she swallows it. Then she'll never talk again, just like him. Spanish is really easy to read, so the fact that Leo could read the word acid isn't a stretch at all.

I'm with Juanita, Rocio talking about Miriam being like a second mother to Ana didn't bother me too much, it's more of a hint as to what's to come. But the total and complete turnaround in her snobbiness does gag me. I think it's a very wide stretch that she would turn around 180 degrees like that, and is now a warm and loving, compassionate and fair woman, is unbelievable.

As far as Dan is concerned, I like how Netgirl put it yesterday in the comments about Dan:
She said, "Mir may have come back from the dead, but in his heart, Dan is still married to Cam so he still reacts like a husband. To him, "his wife" was told that if she doesn't have sex with a lecherous criminal old enough to be her father, she will lose her family's land and her mom will rot in jail. Imho, Dan did what many husbands would do if their wives were threatened."
Exactly, he still is madly in love with her, and this is just what he feared would happen to Camila. And he feels impotent to be able to help protect her. It has to be tearing him up inside.



 

I have to believe that after all this Daniel is going to be the one to rescue Camila from the devil. Dionicio has mocked Daniel and Camila's love for him so many times this would be an incredible humiliation for him.
 

Maybe Leo will spill the acid where it protects Luzma from further "attention" from him.

Cindy
 

Thanks Cathyx! UA, I would love to see Dan as the rescuer! Paquita, I like the MirMar name. I too will miss this tn, the recaps, and comments when it's over. Thanks everyone, this has been great fun!
 

Paquita thanks for your recap. I am happy the bad guys are turning on one another.

Vivi - thanks for the pic.

Though a few TNs I've seen do punish women with disfigurement, Isa is vain and would hurt her mentally and emotionally as well as physically. And as TL and Juanita mentioned, it is fair play for the tongueless one.

The plot device that vexes me is when the protagonist actually listens to the villain when the stakes are really high. Cam knows that Dan is volatile so he won't be the best one to share this new development but she needs to tell someone so they can think this through together. And she has a team of people she can rely on - Vivi, Rafa, Mariano, Osvaldo, etc.

Having said the above, Dan was an expert at undermining Dio so he probably needs to know a filtered version of Dio's latest b/c it includes ANYONE who tries to help Cam.

Cathyx & Netgirl - ITA about Dan's actions.
 

Nice that Miriam doesn't worry about getting her pumps dirty while maintaining her 50's housewife vibe.

I hope Augie's divorce doesn's go through until after the heck hits the fan for Dio. She could inherit eerything. Even Omar. Who is really a tipazo deep down, despite the violence. I picture him in a similar situation as Hissy, but without the sex.

He was sold off to Dio or Dio's father when he was younger and made to do all the family's dirty work. He had to stay to help send him younger siblings to school and improve their lives while sacrificing his own, and didn't want to risk their safety given the wrath of Dio. Since he doesn't have a Kitchen Virgen to pray to, he asks to the ceiling at night for forgiveness and thinks about what might have been -he had an interest in the priesthood- knowing that it may be too late for him. He's done too much to be saved. Unless Augie can help find his true path, probably from prison

Or maybe he's just a good-looking thug. We may never know the truth.

Kelly
 

LOL, Kelly - I like that back story for Omar.

UGHHHH -- ROMAN'S VOICE -- UGGHHHH!!!
 

Kelly- LOL! I love that you have created a back story for Omar. Unfortunately, his little smile as he beat the crap out of Dan, and even back when Isa cut out Leo's tongue (although I may give him a pass for that), shows that he seems to enjoy the shadier aspects of his job a bit too much.
 

Paquita: Great recap.

The guns and serapes must have come in a set. But, seriously. Our guys look muy guapo.

That look between Nana and Rocio when Miriam and Mariano were talking was kind of weird.

Even though it was a stupid thing to do, I understand why Dan went after Dio. He’s protecting his wife (and she is the wife of his heart). Also, not keeping him in the loop is not fair. However, Cam said it right—and she ought to know, she’s the same way—that he’s impulsive and might cause more damage (which he did). I think they needed to keep the sleeping with Dio part of the demands to themselves.

I have to say one thing for CdlF—he plays sick/injured very convincingly.

What day is it in TN land?

Until I saw Leo with the acid, I was thinking that at the end, when Isa and Dio are caught because of his obsession with Cam, that would be the final straw for her and she’d take him out. But if Leo gets her with the acid first, not sure that would happen after all.

Dio’s obsession with Cam has turned him stupid. Isa’s obsession with Dio has turned her dangerous.

Finally got to the recap. Now on to the comments!!

Nanette

 

So what is Nat's plan? She said goodbye to Rodolfo like she's leaving. She has a secret plan with Aaron. And Aaron is leaving to go back to Chiapas. Hmm... Maybe she's going with him?
 

Gracias Paquita,

I doubt there will be any of Dio's money left. It is all ill gotten gains. I'm sure they will pay off the people that bought the pensions & whoever else they find he swindled.

That was not very smart of Dan. He knows that Dio has his patiños (henchmen) around. Surprising they left him in front of Dio's casa, and not drop him in the woods.

boo hoo, only 8 more episodes before Mejia.
 

I think of it as 8 more episodes before Jorge and Pablo.

But I will miss this series.

Miriam does exude something of a Donna Reed vibe. I wonder what kind of a career she could have had. I wonder... when she gets together with Mariano who will convert?
 

Paquita--The best scene in this epi was the Maja sighting. I wish we could have seen a big hug as well. Thank you, you recorded everything with your own inimitable style.

Loved the 'Roman shouts his lines,'
and 'Mar takes her hand and utters his mantra,' and 'Dionicio suddenly announces he must leave and Hissadora’s disappointed. She thought that at the very least they’d be celebrating in one of the hotel rooms. Well, Dion’s busy – got people to see, places to go, you know – he’s got a pending matter to attend to,' and the best one 'He sees the jug (may as well be labeled “Acid for Hissadora”)'

It just broke my heart to leave Camila with that horrible decision to make. We all know that something is going to go wrong with the briefcase heist (unless this is it and they spend all the rest of next week in the happily ever after time zone).

Vivi--Isa is sure that her dismissal of LeoCerdo was perfectly just--he didn't kill Padre B, so she doesn't owe him anything. She's in the clear, nothing to fear.

It *is* interesting, though, that Dio thinks nothing of waving it in Isa's face--still after all this time--that he's still intent on *having* Camila. We've misjudged Isa. She *does* have feelings (whatever they might be) for Dio as a bed partner. Dio had better watch out. It's a good thing Leo found the acido first, or Dio might have gotten some poured down the front of his pants. (I also like Cindy's take on Leo getting some on the acid on himself.)

TL--Agree about our syrupy sweet Fair Maid Miriam, the Cookie Lady. But she's just what Mar needs--as for a second mother for Ana...I think both Refugio and Rocio recognize that there is something happening between the two of them and they are still aware that Dan and Camila were married by the Church--a big thing for them.

UA--I'm sorry I missed posting an appreciative comment yesterday. I had a late dentist appointment and got home just in time for PEAM. I had the opportunity to ask her professional opinion about a drooling tongueless man (yeah, I had to explain where I got all this from). She said that he probably *would* need a drooly pad as the tongue has an integral part in swallowing--just as I swallowed some rinse water and noted that fact that the tongue goes up to the roof of the mouth and then sort of helps direct the liquid/masticated solid toward the back of the throat, where the swallowing takes place. She thought he would also have trouble chewing up food, too. Hmmm. food for thought, no?

Juanita--Leo was able to read Acido easily because he learned his vowels first. (However, you are right, Agua should be as easy, but he might get them confused.

You can tell I've only gotten halfway through the comments, but I'll post now.


 

Leo would also have little or no taste for his food.

Cindy
 

Anita- I'm am chuckling just imagining your dentist's face when you asked about the mechanics and issues of being de-tongued. :)
 

Vivi- I missed Omar's smile. Maybe he's jealous that he'll never get the chance to marry one woman much less two and he's taking out his frustrations.

Miriam is going to open a Montisorri (sp?) with scholarships for all the huerfanos at the Padres. Luzma will work there when she gets her degree in education. It'll be open to all religious persuations and she'll teach Anna the traditions of her faith since thats how Agatha will be raised. No need for conversions this time. But first she needs to project manage the reconsteuction of the orphanage and make sure it's up to code. She'd look good in heels and a hard hat.

Kelly
 

Kelly- When this thing wraps up next week, you should write up your vision of the future for each character if the writers don't manage to cover it.
 

Vivi, so glad you ignored the comment from "not a Dan fan". I don't even read her comments anymore because it's always the same rant over and over. (How long ago was the fight between Dan & Alonzo)? I'm sure we all have characters that we don't like.
But are we are sensible enough to know that the same theme over and over gets old and uninteresting after awhile. Responding to it would give the impression that we actually read it.



 

Hey, Kelly, I like the idea for MM. Both my kids went to a Montessori school. It was a great experience in learning for the whole family. "Freedom within Boundaries." In fact, we were one of the 28 founding families of the original Capitol Hill Montessori School (in Washington, DC)--now absorbed into the DCPS system, but has all the flexibility of a Monessori school. I'm a big proponent.
 

Cam has probably realized that her giving in to Dio will probably not do any good. But if there's a one in billion chance to save her loved ones, she's going to take it.

I don't think either Miriam or Mariano need to convert.

 

Nanette--If she has to do it, she'll close her eyes, hold her nose and think of Inglaterra. That'll be just enough to make Dio rise to the occasion, n'est-ce pas?
 

I picture her throwing up all over him if she has to do it with him. (Not that I think it will get that far). And nothing will kill the mood more than the smell of vomit.
 

I'd rather have him develop Alonso's little problem.
 

The whole thought of Cam even in a bedroom with DionDevil, even fully clothed is just wretched. *shudder!*


UA, when I read your comment, I thought about Isa's drug for Cayetano. Dion-the-dirty-dog needs to be put down for a while.
 

netgirl- Ooh! Good idea. Camila could pretend she's going along with his sick desires, and then use some of Isa's dopey drops on Dion and steal the briefcasee while he's knocked out.
 

Vivi-in-DC: From your keyboard to the writers' ears!
 

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