Saturday, April 20, 2013
Qué Bonito Amor #5 (Mex 7-8.1) Friday 4/19/13 Can The New Cock On The Block Crow Or No?
Cap #7 thru1/2 of 8
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Parte 1~~
Lo
del Pasado:
King of the Cock-walk, aka, El Coloso,
aka El Celoso of the colossal ego, has told his posse musical he’s gonna teach El
Pocho a lesson and warns Santos/Jorge Alfredo to stay the heck away from
Maria. Santos, desde Los Alphas, doesn’t
take guff from anybody, least-wise from some hick from the Mexican sticks who
drives around in a hoopty car with a
ginormous sombrero de charro stuck on its roof and 7 charro bobble-heads
wobbling when warbling on his dashboard, not to mention a pet rooster he
babies. Naw, who the heck was Coloso to
tell anybody who can or cannot hang
around with Maria? Up in Maria’s humble
abode, meanwhile, Amalia has asked Maria if she’s fallen in love with this
Jorge Alfredo. Maria hesitates (like she really has to think that one
through?).
Lo
del Nuevo:
Santos
blows off Coloso’s threats. As
for being king cock, Santo’s smiles back with just a hint of condescension like
he figure’s Coloso’s more like an average dick. “—Kings make me laugh, and…
they’re old fashioned [pasado de moda].” Santos pushes his way through the
posse and says he’s got better things to do with his time than stand around yammering. Coloso has to be held back. Nobody in the colonia needs a scandalous
ruckus right now, the posse warns him.
After duly dissing Col [la col = a head
of cabbage, BTW] Santos/Jorge Alfredo returns to his fleabag of a room to get
some sleep. He tosses and turns. Maria does the same in her bed. Each is thinking of the other and whether
they should allow this romantic sentiment to take hold since both know he’s
heading back to L.A. in a few weeks.
Across town, Milamores is stepping out
with a well-heeled married woman whose husband apparently mistreats and
mentally abuses her. Mil gives her his
philosophy on the proper treatment of the female of the species and then he and
she go at it hot and heavy on the couch.
At the same time, one of the others in
the band (Baritono?) in his crappy hotel room? Dressing room? is on the phone
with his wife. He misses his Missus and
kids; per her request he serenades the missus a cappella through his cellphone. FF>>
At Cheating Wife’s house again,
Abusive Hubby is heard opening the door so Mil races to hide behind the
stairway. He hears Hubmonster’s verbal
abuse and grumbles to himself about it.
The next day, the street noises
outside his window wake Santos. He thinks to himself that he can’t believe
what’s happened to him, and tells himself that he can’t continue to live like
this; that he has to get back to clear his name.
At the same time that mornning, Maria
is packing up breakfast and some cleaning supplies for Jorge. Mama tries to suggest that Maria tamp down
the emotional side of this relationship because the young man (she calls him
“boy”, but I just cannot!) is going to leave Mexico and return home soon. Their discussion is cut short with Isa’s
rambunctious entrance. Maria needs to
hurry away so she can walk Isa safely to school.
Back in L.A., Comandante Derecho y
Deshecho tells his goofy Lt. Curtis (who, IMNSHO, dressed in that skin-tight
60’s-retro black body dress and blazer, gives Emma Peel anything but a run for her money) that he feels
some international gang is probably helping out Santos. He will find out just whom that is, or die
trying. Lt. Curtis swoons. (Since the
two are going on a date of sorts to see The Rolling Stones together??? can we
assume they’re an item now—or soon to be?) He’s going to find out if Santos is still in
El Paso, Tx, or if he went back to Mexico City.
Either way they’re sure to catch him soon, he tells her. FF>> FF>>
Maria arrives at Jorge’s room with
soap and sheets, a broom and a mop. Yes,
she intends to clean up the disgusting place and make it at least livable for
Jorge while he’s off getting himself cleaned up down the hallway.
Amalia tells herself that her mother’s
intuition is screaming at her that Jorge is probably hiding something from
them. But, all she can do is hope that
this first love will have been something pleasant to remember for Maria once
he’s gone and it’s over with. She prays
to the virgencita to make it so.
Jorge is walking back from the
bathroom when Irasema (Karla Álvarez??!!) a happy hooker also living in this
no-tell hell-hole, spies JA returning from the bathroom and his morning
ablutions. She blocks his way, starts to
flirt, zeroing in on another john. He
politely gets out of her way. A minute
later he stops at the open doorway to his room to marvel at Maria’s Merry Maid
miracle. (So the heck do we!) “--¡Guau!”
He tells Maria he realizes she knows very little about him, but she
should believe him when he tells her she’s the best thing that’s ever happened
to him in his entire life. Again they
share a meaningful stare and nearly kiss… till she catches herself and abruptly
changes the subject to something safe and respectable.
A few minutes after, Irasema seeing
Santos alone from the hallway, walks in and puts the working-girl moves on
him. From the other room, Maria
apparently hears her propositioning Jorge.
She races in to put her possessive, and most respectable, foot down. “—Asunto???” [Your business here is??? –this is always said in a way that implies
the person it’s directed to actually has no business discussing any
business with you.] Maria, telling
Happy Hooker that her “husband”
doesn’t need [her kind of] help, thank
you very much, manages to get rid of irritating Irasema toots-sweet. Santos raises his eyebrows and smiles at
Maria’s …er…street savvy shall we say…..
The word “esposo” sounds pretty good to him, too, we can assume--at
least when Maria mouths it.
Amalia, now, is cooking at home with
Susanito’s mama, Fortune-Telling Neighbor. But the steam is apparently hurting
her wrists. (Can we assume that she
suffers from some kind of debilitating arthritis, or MS?) Susanito arrives with some groceries and the
two women kid him about being such a good boy.
He’ll make somebody a good hubby someday. Not too soon, says his mama, he’s waaaaaaay
too young to consider having a girlfriend.
(Hmmm. What’s the Mexican word
for nebbish? Whatever it is, Mama’s got him
fast-tracking.)
Irasema excuses herself now to Maria
for thinking that he was another prospective john, like most of the men living
in this flop-house. Maria curtly replies
thanks, but they are busy people. Santos
is extremely amused at this scene, Viewerville notes. Yes, I’d be extremely busy myself if my
husband were as handsome as yours, says Ira and leaves. Once she’s gone, JA looks at the bright side
of this particular situation. He tells
Maria that at least this gal was a friendly sort, whereas the guy chasing after
Maria came around to threaten him if he didn’t keep his distance from her. They giggle over El Coloso’s bad boy
attitude.
El Celoso, meanwhile, is home now and
looks up at a large poster of Maria in her charro costume that he has framed
and hanging in his living room. He
remembers how she told him it wasn’t any of his business if she was leaving or
not with El Pocho ése! He decides to pay
a visit to Amalia and tell her what kind of guy her daughter has decided to get
involved with!
A bit later, on the other side of the
colonia, Santos has changed clothes and is remembering what he read about
Michael’s being caught and thrown in jail, and the scandalous way the
newspapers had written up the story.
He’s in one mell of a hess, he is!
Just then in walks Irasema again to explain she wasn’t there to cause a
hassle, just just to make it clear that she doesn’t mess with “prohibited” men;
and she adds, it was quite obvious that his “wife” was very much in love with
him. Cara de “Hmmm” de Santos.
El Celoso now goes looking for Maria
at home and runs into sweet little Isabel playing out front by the stairs. She tells him that Maria went to see JA, and confidentially, she thinks the Maria and
Jorge are sweethearts! El Celoso feels a
sudden case of heartburn coming on and secretly frowns. Cara de say-it-aint-so-Joe! del Coloso.
Meanwhile, Mil and our nebbish
neighbor boy named Su are chatting about the proper treatment and wooing of
women. Mil sees a group of gals standing
by the entrance to the colonia and tries to give Su a lesson in the arts of
womanizing. Works like a charm for
Milamores—he makes it look sooooo easy.
Su doesn’t have the same luck, though, and gets a slap across the
chops. (Ugh. This is painful to watch…..cuz MB is such a believable angelic, mama’s boy.)
Amalia spies Coloso with Isa now and
mentions Maria’s gone out. He invites
himself up for a glass of water.
Back at Santos’ place, over breakfast,
Maria tries to ask about his family, but he avoids telling her more than
there’s really nothing to tell her.
“—Food’s delicious!” He adds,
again in all sincerity, how great it feels to be pampered the way she’s been
pampering him, especially considering all the tons of silly stuff
[burradas=nonsense/gross errors] he’s been mixed up in.
Santos mentions then that Neighbor
Lady made another visit and commented that it was obvious that Maria was in
love with him. Maria hesitates, stares
into his eyes meaningfully once more, and then says that is just a lot of hooey
because he’s leaving in three weeks.
Santos says, well speaking of that, he knows he’s bee abusing her
generosity but now needs to ask her to help him find a job so he can get enough
money together to buy his ticket back to L.A.
She offers to loan him the money, but he refuses to hear of it since he
knows she is financially strapped herself.
She suggests he could work at the bar.
He thinks she means as waiter or a bouncer [garrotero?]. No, she means singing with the band. Oh no!
That’s the last thing in the world he’d ever consider doing, he assures
her! Maria can’t believe it. “--Why not?
You have a marvelous voice!” No,
singing for his supper isn’t an option, y punto!
Back at Maria’s, Col begins
badmouthing JA to Amalia and tells her he thinks the guy is a big liar; that he
is only trying to take advantage of Maria before he leaves town, living at her
expense and well, who knows what!
Suddenly this stranger appears with his load of horse manure about
getting hit over the head and robbed, and having no money. True, he’s been living off Maria’s good will,
agrees Amalia, but he’s not a bad person.
Well, says Oscar hoping to plant more than a few seeds of doubt, as his
dear, departed mama used to say, “’Better safe than sorry.’”
Maria and Santos discuss working at
the bar vs. looking for a mechanic’s job a bit more and then decide to leave to
discuss his options with Don Concho.
Once outside the colonia again, Col
hops into his hoopty de mariachi and rushes over to the little hotel to see if
Maria is still with El Pocho ese who is going to find out what’s what if he has
anything to say about it!
We beam over to Don Concho’s manse
where Elvira-Desira (wearing a mini-kini worthy of a Sports Illustrated cover
shoot) tells her mama, Lourdes (who herself dresses like the ex-madam of a formerly first-rate escort service) that
Jorge Alfredo is a very handsome
man. Don Concho arrives and (seemingly totally oblivious to Elvira’s Playboy centerfold look) tells his two
luxuriating family members that he likes this Jorge Alfredo Vargas guy who is
also from L.A. and very refined and distinguished. Yep, he needs more of those
types of customers filling the seats in his bar, he tells them before rushing
back to the bar. Mama Concho takes all
this into account, and decrees that if Concho is that gung-ho on the guy he
must be good husband/SIL material. She
encourages Desira to try hooking (pun intended) Jorge before he gets away.
Doña Prudencia tells Col he’s come too
late. She just saw Maria and Jorge
Alfredo leave together. Well, when you see him again, please tell Jorgito that El Colosito was here and to tell him they still have some unfinished business together.
Col walks back out and spies the Maria and JA walking across the plaza together, then sneaks a jealous peek from behind a pillar.
Col walks back out and spies the Maria and JA walking across the plaza together, then sneaks a jealous peek from behind a pillar.
--end of parte 1~~
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Parte 2 ~~
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Parte 2 ~~
Meanwhile, kid sis
Paloma, tries knocking on Rodrigo’s front door and playing hide and seek
again. This time, though, maybe Rod’s
not falling for it—or everyone’s gone inside.
Either way, Paloma’s down in the dumps because of it. (Yawn!) FF>>FF>>
Milamores has a chat
in the park with the abused Cheating Housewife, Roxana. He gets really angry when he sees the beating
she got from Hubmonster, Regino, and urges her to leave him already. She is
afraid to because he’ll come looking for her and will want to get even with her
for leaving him. FF>>
Back at Maria’s again,
Amalia gives cooking lessons to Paloma and Isa.
Across the barrio, in
another colonia, Oscar’s ex-girlfriend, Gloria, looks at a medallion and tearfully
remembers her courtship with Oscar multiple moons ago, and his empty promises
that nothing will ever separate them.
They and their little crumb-crunchers will live happily ever after. She laments now her apparent battle with breast
cancer. (We get a pink-ribboned PSA style
soliloquy about her fear to do monthly self-exams so that something like this
could have been avoided.)
At the bar, the band
is coming to get ready for the evening’s business. Maria has asked about JA’s possibly working
in the bar or singing with the group.
The band members object because he isn’t documented/has no papers. Heck, they don’t even know if he’s a real
mechanic or not, they tell her. JA walks
in on them and insists that he is. (I
suppose he got his degree in The States as an auto engineer, right?) The band does a major eye-roll.
El Coloso celoso,
meanwhile, is driving to the bar, griping the entire way about seeing JA and
Maria together. “—What a pretty pair those
two are!” Suddenly, his mariachi-mobile conks out on him
a few blocks away from work and in the middle of traffic. (Boo-hoo.)
Maria tries convincing
Jorge to tell the gang he can sing. Mil
wants to hear more, but JA refuses to discuss it. Maria tells the band how well he can sing. “—Won’t there be a problem asking a favor
like that from Coloso?” Why, if it’s to
earn enough to pay for a ticket back to L.A., asks Mil? Don Concho arrives and Maria hurries in to
discuss this with him.
Don Concho Is more
upset to find out Jorge Alfredo lied to him and is really only a lowly car mechanic
instead of a rich, cultured American. He
refuses to hire such a liar, he argues.
But he isn’t, Maria says, he simply needs a ticket back to L.A. because
he got robbed. Not his problem, says Don
Concho. “--The guy hasn’t got any papers!!
I’m not going to get mixed up with a guy who doesn’t have identification and
you shouldn’t either!!” Maria tells
Concho then that she knows he’s always on the lookout for people who might have
a good voice and that Jorge Alfred has a spectacular one.
Mil Amores tells JA,
meanwhile, not to get his hopes up cuz more than likely, Don Concho will
refuse. Su tells him his mother has a
small shop and she might be able to offer him something.
Coloso walks in at this
point and gets angry when he sees his buddies jawing with JA instead of
rehearsing. He gives Santos grief about
always hanging around their bar, then tells him he cam by for a visit. Santos asks suspiciously why it was so
important to know where he lives. Col slaps him on the arm like they’re best
buds. “--Oh, it was only a friendly
[cordial] visit….. in case you ever happen to need something…..” Maria races and to let Jorge and the others know
that she got him work as a singer. JA
isn’t a happy camper—but then neither is El Coloso. “--Waddayamean El Pochito is going to sing
with us!!!?????”
It seems Jorge Alfredo
suffers from a bad case of the bashfuls [estar tímido]. He wouldn’t dare think of standing up on a
stage and singing! Col hears the
discussion and starts giving Santos grief about it. Just then Don Concho walks out of his office
and yells for Jorge to see if he’s ready to sing. Oh, he’s ready, he says, he’s ready to run the
heck out of there. This cracks the band up
and they enjoy a belly laugh at Santos’s expense. Maria promises then to explain to Don Concho
and not force the issue, but Don Concho reminds her that she agreed that if the
guy couldn’t sing he’d fire her. Coloso
gets upset and says the guy’s a no-good liar that’s got Maria bamboozled and she
shouldn’t be made to pay for his lies. Santos/JA
turns around and screams back at him that he’s no liar! Tough nutz, cuz Don Concho screams back that
if the guy doesn’t sing like she told him then both of them can pick up their
stuff right now and hit the street!
Santos gives in. What song should he sing? Coloso is one pissed off cockerel. “--Sing??? What song should he sing???? You can’t sing!!!” “—Yes, I can sing!!!” Col turns to the boss. “--Hey, Don Concho, it’s one thing for him to
make up things to Maria, but it’s quite another for him to go telling you
stories! [cuentear]” Don Concho yells at the both of them that he
says the guy is going to sing for them and that’s an order!! No buts about it!! Coloso asks Don Concho to let him choose the
song, then, that JA has to sing. Ok. Don Concho warns JA to sing like he means it
cuz Maria is involved.
Lourdes, meanwhile,
goes shopping with daughter Desira for dressed-to-kill wear. The dress Desira tries on is “extremely
daring” according to our flirting young floozie with the basketball-sized
pocket-protectors. All the better to snag Jorge with, my dear, advises
Lewdes. “—There are two ways to win a
man, either through his belly or the advantageous use of your physical…assets.”
Back in their dressing
room, Coloso explains the plan to give El Pocho the kind of song that will do
him in right away. Mil reminds him that
Maria will be run out of the place just like Jorge if that happens. Is he willing to do that to Maria? No way, says Coloso. They’ll all just go on strike and follow her
out if when he runs her off. What’s Don
Concho going to do without a band, right?
At the same time, Santos
tells Maria that he never has wanted to sing it’s just not him! “—How could this be happening! Ay yai yai!
Dear gawd!” Such an absurd idea never even crossed his
mind! She tries calming him down and
telling him she knows he has a beautiful voice.
He’ll do great. Yeah, but he just
doesn’t want her getting hurt because of this thing. He’s so tired of relying on her generosity
and decency. “--And, the next time that I
hear Don Concho has mistreated you, I won’t be responsible!” [Yo no respondo = I
won’t answer for my actions as a result!]
Maria smiles at this protective stance of his.
Don Concho yells over
at him that it’s time for him to sing.
Get to it. Yeah, what’s one more
humiliation after all the others, he tells Maria as he prepares himself. Coloso tells the “hombrecito compadrito” that the song he’ll have to sing is Ay,
Jalisco, No Te Rajes. Maria becomes
incensed and immediately objects.
“—That’s too difficult a song for most any mariachi singer!” Doesn’t matter to Don Concho. “-- All the
better!” Let the chips fall where they
may. He either sings or he’s
owdader! El Coloso quips to Pichi the
barkeep to go ahead and open the door cuz El Pocho is going to be flying
through it shortly. The guys in the band snicker loudly in the background.
Santos sets the
condition that if he does well with the song, then Coloso has to stop calling
him “Pochito”. Col accepts. “Uno, dos,
¡arrancanse! [Start her up!]” Santos
begins singing, but it’s very weak and just way too
robotic. He apparently forgets some of the lyrics, too. The camera pans to the shocked disappointment
on Maria and the bargirls’ faces, then to Don Concho’s disgusted cara de I-knew-it! Even El Coloso’s pet rooster is hard put to
shake a tail feather! (And, that has got to be the best
scene of the whole night!)
Santos sees the
shocked look on Maria’s and the other’s faces, and tries improving the
performance, but it just ain’t happenin’. Don Concho calls it quits and then starts
screaming for Jorge and Maria to grab their stuff and hit the road!!
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Comments:
Thanks all. The first 2/3 portion is up and I'm hurriedly typing up the last portion.
Jardinera654, La Dueña del Recamara
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Good morning Jardinera. I'm looking forward to your recap. I nodded off during last night's episode and haven't had a chance to finish watching it yet.
I'm one of those who watched and thoroughly enjoyed LHdM. I completely understand and agree with the request that we not discuss plot details or plot development from the original but I almost get the impression that we are being asked to refrain from any mention of the original at all.
I can't see the harm in comparing the various characters in this with their corresponding characters in the original version, especially discussion about casting choices and contrasting the personalities between the two versions.
Nor can I see the a problem with comparing events in the two shows after the fact.
I don't speak for anyone but myself here this morning, but with there have already been enough admonitions to avoid references to LHdM to make me reluctant to contribute to the discussion here.
Carlos
I'm one of those who watched and thoroughly enjoyed LHdM. I completely understand and agree with the request that we not discuss plot details or plot development from the original but I almost get the impression that we are being asked to refrain from any mention of the original at all.
I can't see the harm in comparing the various characters in this with their corresponding characters in the original version, especially discussion about casting choices and contrasting the personalities between the two versions.
Nor can I see the a problem with comparing events in the two shows after the fact.
I don't speak for anyone but myself here this morning, but with there have already been enough admonitions to avoid references to LHdM to make me reluctant to contribute to the discussion here.
Carlos
Thanks in advance Jardinera! My only comment: After seeing how quickly María cleaned Jorge Alberto's room, can she clean my place? or at least share her speedy secret!
Jarifa
La Joya del Norte
Jarifa
La Joya del Norte
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: Saturday, April 20, 2013 at 10:37:00 AM EDT
: Saturday, April 20, 2013 at 10:37:00 AM EDT
Should have been Jorge Alfredo!
Jarifa
Jarifa
Permalink posted by : Saturday, April 20, 2013 at 10:38:00 AM EDT
: Saturday, April 20, 2013 at 10:38:00 AM EDT
Will be looking forward to your recap, Jardinera!
I enjoyed last night's episode. It is a bit pokey (which I assume is why Univision is plowing through these first episodes by cramming 1-1/2 episodes into each night). But I don't care!
LOL the dubbed voice of Santos/Jorge. It just doesn't "look" right. But oh well, I have a beanie!
As for comparisons to the previous novela. I think there is a concern that it will dominate the discussion, and in a way that is a drag.
We discuss the previous incarnation of "Amores Verdaderos" sometimes in our discussions, but it never gets to be too much, just a brief mention now and then. I know that there are those who loved the previous version of this show (with Mark Tacher) and maybe there is a fear of not only spoilers, but things along the lines of "I can't believe they butchered this fine story, the Mark Tacher version was soooo much better!" Let's be honest, nobody needs that. But, I don't know if it's going in that direction really, only that maybe there's a concern?
I personally don't mind an occasional mention of a previous version, as long as there isn't a lot of griping and a lot of spoilers or excessive comparisons. Most novelas I've watched here on Caray have had previous versions that we occasionally discuss. "La Duena" became "Soy tu Duena" and there were several versions of "Teresa" before the one we saw recently, LQNPA had a couple of versions prior, and the same with Amores Verdaderos too. So what is unique about this novela that we're getting gun-shy about any discussions of the previous versions? That's what we should pinpoint and then agree to avoid, I guess?
Anyway, back to talking about the novela. I screamed that they ended the episode where they did. GAH! And I am an idiot, because I don't know, what was soooo bad with how Jorge Alfredo was singing? I take it from the reactions of everyone that he sucked, presumably in his interpretation of the song. His voice sounded fine to me, though.
I enjoyed last night's episode. It is a bit pokey (which I assume is why Univision is plowing through these first episodes by cramming 1-1/2 episodes into each night). But I don't care!
LOL the dubbed voice of Santos/Jorge. It just doesn't "look" right. But oh well, I have a beanie!
As for comparisons to the previous novela. I think there is a concern that it will dominate the discussion, and in a way that is a drag.
We discuss the previous incarnation of "Amores Verdaderos" sometimes in our discussions, but it never gets to be too much, just a brief mention now and then. I know that there are those who loved the previous version of this show (with Mark Tacher) and maybe there is a fear of not only spoilers, but things along the lines of "I can't believe they butchered this fine story, the Mark Tacher version was soooo much better!" Let's be honest, nobody needs that. But, I don't know if it's going in that direction really, only that maybe there's a concern?
I personally don't mind an occasional mention of a previous version, as long as there isn't a lot of griping and a lot of spoilers or excessive comparisons. Most novelas I've watched here on Caray have had previous versions that we occasionally discuss. "La Duena" became "Soy tu Duena" and there were several versions of "Teresa" before the one we saw recently, LQNPA had a couple of versions prior, and the same with Amores Verdaderos too. So what is unique about this novela that we're getting gun-shy about any discussions of the previous versions? That's what we should pinpoint and then agree to avoid, I guess?
Anyway, back to talking about the novela. I screamed that they ended the episode where they did. GAH! And I am an idiot, because I don't know, what was soooo bad with how Jorge Alfredo was singing? I take it from the reactions of everyone that he sucked, presumably in his interpretation of the song. His voice sounded fine to me, though.
Carlos/Elvira:
"As for comparisons to the previous novela. I think there is a concern that it will dominate the discussion, and in a way that is a drag."
Yes.
"I can't see the harm in comparing the various characters in this with their corresponding characters in the original version, especially discussion about casting choices and contrasting the personalities between the two versions.
Nor can I see the a problem with comparing events in the two shows after the fact."
Me either! ITA.
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It was a suggestion--nothing more-- because concerns had been raised and presented to me. I've revamped the request for caution and hope that will suffice, and that any ruffled feathers will be smoothed. & : ? )
"As for comparisons to the previous novela. I think there is a concern that it will dominate the discussion, and in a way that is a drag."
Yes.
"I can't see the harm in comparing the various characters in this with their corresponding characters in the original version, especially discussion about casting choices and contrasting the personalities between the two versions.
Nor can I see the a problem with comparing events in the two shows after the fact."
Me either! ITA.
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It was a suggestion--nothing more-- because concerns had been raised and presented to me. I've revamped the request for caution and hope that will suffice, and that any ruffled feathers will be smoothed. & : ? )
Sounds good to me, Jardinera!
I'm trying to think of how I've seen refritos discussed in other novelas:
LQNPA: We talked about the previous versions, which were vastly different than LQNPA (and that became obvious early in, because the Rogelio character was a "hero" and in the previous versions he was a villain). Discussing the reasons for the change (the producer has a reputation for pushing it), and stuff like that. Discussion of what we already know to be fact or set in stone. Wondering if what we think is going to happen without bringing up what happened in previous versions. (Just like we would anyway.)
Amores: Discussing events after the fact. "The strip tease scene in the previous version came sooner. The bodyguard in the previous version was younger. Here's a clip on YouTube." It's already been viewed so it's safe for us to discuss.
I find discussions of previous versions to be interesting, but with each show so far, it's never been a dominating factor. I imagine that if it were to become so, and if the discussion started to go along the lines of "this show sucks compared to the previous version" all the time, then that would become tedious.
I'm trying to think of how I've seen refritos discussed in other novelas:
LQNPA: We talked about the previous versions, which were vastly different than LQNPA (and that became obvious early in, because the Rogelio character was a "hero" and in the previous versions he was a villain). Discussing the reasons for the change (the producer has a reputation for pushing it), and stuff like that. Discussion of what we already know to be fact or set in stone. Wondering if what we think is going to happen without bringing up what happened in previous versions. (Just like we would anyway.)
Amores: Discussing events after the fact. "The strip tease scene in the previous version came sooner. The bodyguard in the previous version was younger. Here's a clip on YouTube." It's already been viewed so it's safe for us to discuss.
I find discussions of previous versions to be interesting, but with each show so far, it's never been a dominating factor. I imagine that if it were to become so, and if the discussion started to go along the lines of "this show sucks compared to the previous version" all the time, then that would become tedious.
Thanks in advance Jardinera, I look forward to your recap.
I'm still hurting over AB and LQNPA being over and having been so good, that I'm not into this one yet. However, many thanks to 5ft for her suggestions.
Loriloo, La Flor del Sofa
I'm still hurting over AB and LQNPA being over and having been so good, that I'm not into this one yet. However, many thanks to 5ft for her suggestions.
Loriloo, La Flor del Sofa
Thanks Jardinera and Elvira for the clarification.
The one show that was a remake that stands out most in my mind was LFMB and I seem to recall (especially early on) a number of negative (almost resentful) comments comparing LFMB to YSBlF, complete with occasional spoilers. As the show progressed those comments (many by surly anons as I think back on it) seemed to dwindle and die off. However, enough good things about the original were pointed out that I was motivated to watch YSBlF when I had the opportunity. I still can't say for certain which is my favorite version.
There seems to be a lot of negativity at Caray Caray toward Salvador Mejía but I really have really gotten a kick out of his shows. He offers up everything I expect from a TN, often in double doses. His casting is often genius but often puzzling as well. He's made some odd choices for this but I'm willing to sit back and see how they work out.
Now I'm off to watch the rest of last night's episode in order to determine the beverage to accompany your recap with. I suspect it will be lemonade with occasional sips of Tequila.
Carlos
The one show that was a remake that stands out most in my mind was LFMB and I seem to recall (especially early on) a number of negative (almost resentful) comments comparing LFMB to YSBlF, complete with occasional spoilers. As the show progressed those comments (many by surly anons as I think back on it) seemed to dwindle and die off. However, enough good things about the original were pointed out that I was motivated to watch YSBlF when I had the opportunity. I still can't say for certain which is my favorite version.
There seems to be a lot of negativity at Caray Caray toward Salvador Mejía but I really have really gotten a kick out of his shows. He offers up everything I expect from a TN, often in double doses. His casting is often genius but often puzzling as well. He's made some odd choices for this but I'm willing to sit back and see how they work out.
Now I'm off to watch the rest of last night's episode in order to determine the beverage to accompany your recap with. I suspect it will be lemonade with occasional sips of Tequila.
Carlos
I'm only watching this show b/c I like Jorge Salinas. I like his "Are you for real?" smirk whenever El Celoso starts running his mouth. The actress who plays Maria is very pretty and so are the actresses who play her mom & teen sister (who was young Lucia in LFDD).
I laugh at how the LAPD is speaking in Spanish in America, the fact you know it's America by the big American flag & how they are pretty much Keystone Kops.
That lady of the night was a wee bit too old in the face to be tricking. Just sayin'.
I laugh at how the LAPD is speaking in Spanish in America, the fact you know it's America by the big American flag & how they are pretty much Keystone Kops.
That lady of the night was a wee bit too old in the face to be tricking. Just sayin'.
Permalink posted by : Saturday, April 20, 2013 at 1:35:00 PM EDT
: Saturday, April 20, 2013 at 1:35:00 PM EDT
Jardinera:
I am so looking forward to your recap. I like this TN for the music and Pablo Montero, sigh! As Elvira said, we do discuss former versions of AV but only after something has happened. I have deleted a spoiler or two from the board, but all in all we haven't had any spoilers and the discussions are great. I agree with what you, Carlos and Elvira all said : )
I am so looking forward to your recap. I like this TN for the music and Pablo Montero, sigh! As Elvira said, we do discuss former versions of AV but only after something has happened. I have deleted a spoiler or two from the board, but all in all we haven't had any spoilers and the discussions are great. I agree with what you, Carlos and Elvira all said : )
So far, there are only two things that I want:
1. Senor Jorge Salinas (YIKES, the man is an absolute dream!
2. Maria's clothes. I LOVE her clothes and I want those clothes!!!
Fatima
1. Senor Jorge Salinas (YIKES, the man is an absolute dream!
2. Maria's clothes. I LOVE her clothes and I want those clothes!!!
Fatima
Permalink posted by : Saturday, April 20, 2013 at 3:16:00 PM EDT
: Saturday, April 20, 2013 at 3:16:00 PM EDT
Anita! LOL!
Believe me, I tried that novela, but the first week was SO depressing to me that I jumped ship. It seemed a bit abusive on a number of counts, so it was a no go.
Am so glad you are here with this novela. Always enjoy your comments.
Fatima...I guess I will have to think up a moniker for myself, but with a name like "Fatima", I guess it says it all!
Believe me, I tried that novela, but the first week was SO depressing to me that I jumped ship. It seemed a bit abusive on a number of counts, so it was a no go.
Am so glad you are here with this novela. Always enjoy your comments.
Fatima...I guess I will have to think up a moniker for myself, but with a name like "Fatima", I guess it says it all!
Permalink posted by : Saturday, April 20, 2013 at 3:56:00 PM EDT
: Saturday, April 20, 2013 at 3:56:00 PM EDT
Looking forward to the recap Jardinera. I missed the episode yesterday drats. Also want to thank 5ft for her awesome recap.
Permalink posted by : Saturday, April 20, 2013 at 4:52:00 PM EDT
: Saturday, April 20, 2013 at 4:52:00 PM EDT
I like that all the coworkers at the bar seem to get along and like each other (at least up 'til now). They are very supportive of each other, too, particularly the 'Naughty Wenches.' It will be tricky when El Rey de los Dimples starts working there and they might have to take sides between him and Coloso. I'm thinking the bar tenders and waiters will side with Coloso, the ladies with Jorge, and the mariachis with both?
Didn't see the original, so I don't have anything to compare it to (not that I would) and I'm enjoying this so far.
I don't like Mejia's tendency to put in silly comic-relief in fast-forward motion, so I'm really glad he didn't do that to show Maria cleaning the room - but how else could she have done it?
Soyyo
La Estrella del Barrio
Didn't see the original, so I don't have anything to compare it to (not that I would) and I'm enjoying this so far.
I don't like Mejia's tendency to put in silly comic-relief in fast-forward motion, so I'm really glad he didn't do that to show Maria cleaning the room - but how else could she have done it?
Soyyo
La Estrella del Barrio
Permalink posted by : Saturday, April 20, 2013 at 5:00:00 PM EDT
: Saturday, April 20, 2013 at 5:00:00 PM EDT
Dijo Jarifa, La Joya del Norte:
My only comment: After seeing how quickly María cleaned Jorge Alberto's room, can she clean my place? or at least share her speedy secret!"
Amen sister! She can come and help me organize my quilt fabric.
I thought the first week was pretty darn cheesy. But Jorge Salinas won me over in LQNPA so I have to see him again. I suppose after all the crises in AB the comic relief is welcome.
Sue455, La Dama de las Quesadillas
P.S. I'm a cook who works at a grill station at lunch so the name is accurate. It sure sounds better in Spanish than it does in English which would be "Grilled Cheese Lady."
My only comment: After seeing how quickly María cleaned Jorge Alberto's room, can she clean my place? or at least share her speedy secret!"
Amen sister! She can come and help me organize my quilt fabric.
I thought the first week was pretty darn cheesy. But Jorge Salinas won me over in LQNPA so I have to see him again. I suppose after all the crises in AB the comic relief is welcome.
Sue455, La Dama de las Quesadillas
P.S. I'm a cook who works at a grill station at lunch so the name is accurate. It sure sounds better in Spanish than it does in English which would be "Grilled Cheese Lady."
Permalink posted by : Saturday, April 20, 2013 at 5:24:00 PM EDT
: Saturday, April 20, 2013 at 5:24:00 PM EDT
LoriLoo, well, I suppose it could go either way.
I'm a little bummed out because my recording cut off just as Alfredo was giving his condition to Coloso before even beginning to sing... that calls for an extra sip of Tequila.
Anita, you are right, the large American flag in Derecho's office is displayed upside down... switching to Kentucky Bourbon in protest.
Coloso made me smile in that last scene as he stood there stroking his chicken and shouted "...ve abriendote la puerta..."
This is clearly mocking a scene from the movie and corrido La Muerte de un Gallero which stars Antonio Aguilar in which the bad guy who is cradling his cock in the same way looks up from the fight arena and shouts "¡Cierren las puertas, Señores!"
I was going to link to a clip containing the scene and the song but thought better of it since it is so violent.
Carlos
I'm a little bummed out because my recording cut off just as Alfredo was giving his condition to Coloso before even beginning to sing... that calls for an extra sip of Tequila.
Anita, you are right, the large American flag in Derecho's office is displayed upside down... switching to Kentucky Bourbon in protest.
Coloso made me smile in that last scene as he stood there stroking his chicken and shouted "...ve abriendote la puerta..."
This is clearly mocking a scene from the movie and corrido La Muerte de un Gallero which stars Antonio Aguilar in which the bad guy who is cradling his cock in the same way looks up from the fight arena and shouts "¡Cierren las puertas, Señores!"
I was going to link to a clip containing the scene and the song but thought better of it since it is so violent.
Carlos
Because so many of these shows are based on previous ones, sometimes I feel like I'm watching West Side Story without having read or seen Romeo and Juliet. Yes, I'm aware the one is based on the other, but I'd really like to discuss what I'm actually watching. Since I haven't seen the original, I can't discuss anything else.
As one of those who had seen the original Betty and was watching LFMB, I also understand the pleasure in comparing and contrasting, but I never really considered what it was like for those who hadn't seen the original.
I'm not saying there's a right or wrong approach. I don't want to dampen anyone's enjoyment of this show, the recaps, and the ability to discuss them with others, but sometimes one person's enjoyment is another person's annoyance. It's important to me that everyone understand that when a recapper deletes a comment, it's not because we're on some kind of power trip. We're just trying to keep it fun for everyone, or as close as we can get it, and we're making it up as we go along, so please bear with us.
As one of those who had seen the original Betty and was watching LFMB, I also understand the pleasure in comparing and contrasting, but I never really considered what it was like for those who hadn't seen the original.
I'm not saying there's a right or wrong approach. I don't want to dampen anyone's enjoyment of this show, the recaps, and the ability to discuss them with others, but sometimes one person's enjoyment is another person's annoyance. It's important to me that everyone understand that when a recapper deletes a comment, it's not because we're on some kind of power trip. We're just trying to keep it fun for everyone, or as close as we can get it, and we're making it up as we go along, so please bear with us.
Ok Jardinera et al.
point well taken. if you consider that any of my comments are out of order or spoilers, feel free to delete them. i don't mind.
I am trying not to spoil it for anyone or cause anyone to not have a good time watching this.
So I will refrain to even mention the original as much as i can and limit my comments to the current version we are all enjoying.
point well taken. if you consider that any of my comments are out of order or spoilers, feel free to delete them. i don't mind.
I am trying not to spoil it for anyone or cause anyone to not have a good time watching this.
So I will refrain to even mention the original as much as i can and limit my comments to the current version we are all enjoying.
I just was rewatching the first week episodes with my mom and in the note Rigoberto left for Santos at the hotel, he refers to Santos (in his initial greeting) as Vato. Didn't someone mention that they used this word in AB too?
So Coloso et al call him Pocho and Rigo called him Vato.
So Coloso et al call him Pocho and Rigo called him Vato.
Martaivett--According to today's exchange rate it's about $30. For a whole week, with housekeeping service, nosy neighbor, a bathroom down the hall and a gatekeeper downstairs, he's doing quite well.
Anita, La Dama del Queso
Anita, La Dama del Queso
Hey, Sue455, La Dama de las Quesadillas, I'm the purveyor of the cheesy stuff, so I hope you'll give my wares a try (some of them melt quite nicely when heated up....., dimples extra).
Anita, La Dama de los Quesos
Anita, La Dama de los Quesos
Marta- Yes. In AB, Camila, the protagonist, and her BFF refer to the galan as "El Vato" (the Dude) when they first keep bumping into him and he's basically that cute stranger.
-Vivi, La Flor de Jamaica
-Vivi, La Flor de Jamaica
My recording cut off while Santos and Maria were talking, which means that the program ran over 11PM, which is rare. I need to reset the DVR to go a few minutes later until they're on schedule with single whole episodes only. What did I miss?
Ok, not watching regularly, but trying to use the recaps to make sense of the situation. And it is working. Characterizations that make it clear who's who and such, sight unseen. Enough detail to help me understand the missed details of scenes i have seen, but not so much that it is a burden to read through to get a sense of the plot arc for whole episodes i have missed. Thanks to the whole team.
What is this about the Univision episodes not lining up with the original broadcast? Are they just shaving seconds here and there, dropping whole scenes, or omitting subplots? I gather they may be running over the time slot, but that doesn't seem enough to account for one and a half episodes a night.
neither the episodes i have seen nor the recaps of those i haven't seem choppy or particularly rushed. If they can cram a show and a half into a broadcast hour without doing violence to the original, does that suggest it needed the tightening anyway?
The singer, Coloso, who is so possessive of the protagonists Maria, is conducting an affair with the boss's daughter and abandoned some woman after pledging everlasting love? Not setting him up as a sympathetic guy, are they?
In general, there doesn't seem to be a lot of grey between the good guys and the baddies here, or am I missing hints of moral ambiguity and subtle characterization? So far the most complex character seems to be the dead father who was a trial to his wife but idolized by his daughter.
Chris in FL
What is this about the Univision episodes not lining up with the original broadcast? Are they just shaving seconds here and there, dropping whole scenes, or omitting subplots? I gather they may be running over the time slot, but that doesn't seem enough to account for one and a half episodes a night.
neither the episodes i have seen nor the recaps of those i haven't seem choppy or particularly rushed. If they can cram a show and a half into a broadcast hour without doing violence to the original, does that suggest it needed the tightening anyway?
The singer, Coloso, who is so possessive of the protagonists Maria, is conducting an affair with the boss's daughter and abandoned some woman after pledging everlasting love? Not setting him up as a sympathetic guy, are they?
In general, there doesn't seem to be a lot of grey between the good guys and the baddies here, or am I missing hints of moral ambiguity and subtle characterization? So far the most complex character seems to be the dead father who was a trial to his wife but idolized by his daughter.
Chris in FL
Permalink posted by : Sunday, April 21, 2013 at 12:36:00 AM EDT
: Sunday, April 21, 2013 at 12:36:00 AM EDT
There have been few commercials in these broadcasts, so nothing has been shaved so far. As I said earlier in the week, Univision has done this by starting a few minutes before the hour, showing no commercials or very few, and ending on or just after the hour.
The normal length of a Televisa episode is 38-43 minutes. It is therefore possible to fit 1.5 of those episodes into a commercial-free hour.
This is what Univision probably did with UFCS and other novelas in recent years when Telemundo debuts a series at the same time.
Back to our story: We don't have the entire backstory of Oscar and Gloria. We learned from last night's episode that his mother is dead. He behaves respectfully to Maria's mother. I am guessing for the moment that he doesn't know about Rodrigo.
The normal length of a Televisa episode is 38-43 minutes. It is therefore possible to fit 1.5 of those episodes into a commercial-free hour.
This is what Univision probably did with UFCS and other novelas in recent years when Telemundo debuts a series at the same time.
Back to our story: We don't have the entire backstory of Oscar and Gloria. We learned from last night's episode that his mother is dead. He behaves respectfully to Maria's mother. I am guessing for the moment that he doesn't know about Rodrigo.
Thanks all. The first 2/3 portion is up and I'm hurriedly typing up the last portion.
Jardinera654, La Dueña del Recamara
Jardinera,
Thanks so much for this part one. Love the snark. I too would love to have someone clean as quickly as Maria did : ) Love the way she decorated Santos/Alfredo's little place. She has a good eye.
Mil Amores so has a touch with the ladies.
El Celoso is too funny with his strutting.
I agree with you Jardinera, I think Amalia has some form of arthritis that requires some type of shot. She keeps rubbing her hands and wrists.
Looking forward to your Part Two.
Thanks so much for this part one. Love the snark. I too would love to have someone clean as quickly as Maria did : ) Love the way she decorated Santos/Alfredo's little place. She has a good eye.
Mil Amores so has a touch with the ladies.
El Celoso is too funny with his strutting.
I agree with you Jardinera, I think Amalia has some form of arthritis that requires some type of shot. She keeps rubbing her hands and wrists.
Looking forward to your Part Two.
Of course, Maria's quick thinking in dealing with the Happy Hooker is going to come back to bite both her and Santos on the arse.
The sad thing about prostitutes is that many of them enter that profession with short-term gain in mind and end up stuck because it follows them in their rep. This woman is probably more typical than anyone thinks.
The sad thing about prostitutes is that many of them enter that profession with short-term gain in mind and end up stuck because it follows them in their rep. This woman is probably more typical than anyone thinks.
Jar--It was a formidable reading. Can't wait for part II & 1/3 to be posted to see how you handle JA's tuneful audition (teehee). I think you nailed it with the title. I can sympathize that he's nervous, but he did so well when he was singing to Maria in the plaza.
Kudos for 'posse musical,' 'Los Alphas,' 'hoopty car,' 'Maria's Merry Maid Miracle,' 'singing for his supper is not an option'
Sorry, but I don't care that Sra. Casada is being mistreated by her hub. El Mil, despite all his philosophy of how to treat women, is still doing wrong.
When are the Rolling Stones coming to L.A. anyway? We need a timeline, pronto.
It could be rheumatoid arthritis. My father was diagnosed with r.a. in his hands. They were extremely sensitive to touch & temperature. Then it just went away. Amalia has something more that just that in order to require injections. It could be osteoporosis, (wrist fractures are a common type of osteoporotic fractures) but not treated by daily injections. My guess is that it involves diabetes--that also affects the extremities, but she would need more than one daily injection.
Maybe we're just not meant to get into the weeds with this. Either they will get around to telling us or it will remain a mystery disease.
Just luuuuuve watching Jorge Alfredo's facial expression, the way he moves--but glad we didn't get any gratuitous shirtlessnes after his shower (while I want more over there on AV).
[Hooray, part dos is up--be back later.]
Anita, La Dama del Queso
Kudos for 'posse musical,' 'Los Alphas,' 'hoopty car,' 'Maria's Merry Maid Miracle,' 'singing for his supper is not an option'
Sorry, but I don't care that Sra. Casada is being mistreated by her hub. El Mil, despite all his philosophy of how to treat women, is still doing wrong.
When are the Rolling Stones coming to L.A. anyway? We need a timeline, pronto.
It could be rheumatoid arthritis. My father was diagnosed with r.a. in his hands. They were extremely sensitive to touch & temperature. Then it just went away. Amalia has something more that just that in order to require injections. It could be osteoporosis, (wrist fractures are a common type of osteoporotic fractures) but not treated by daily injections. My guess is that it involves diabetes--that also affects the extremities, but she would need more than one daily injection.
Maybe we're just not meant to get into the weeds with this. Either they will get around to telling us or it will remain a mystery disease.
Just luuuuuve watching Jorge Alfredo's facial expression, the way he moves--but glad we didn't get any gratuitous shirtlessnes after his shower (while I want more over there on AV).
[Hooray, part dos is up--be back later.]
Anita, La Dama del Queso
Jardinera:
Thanks for this fab Part Two of your recap.
It's was such a shame when Alfredo started to sing, it was very weak, and didn't sound like the night before with the organ grinder. I can't wait for Monday night to find out if Maria is really going to be fired.
The scene with El Coloso and Gloria reminded me of DA cause they looked like they were among the agaves. I wonder what happened to break them up?
I really liked when El Coloso's mariachi mobile broke down in the middle of traffic. Some instant karma maybe : )
Thanks for this fab Part Two of your recap.
It's was such a shame when Alfredo started to sing, it was very weak, and didn't sound like the night before with the organ grinder. I can't wait for Monday night to find out if Maria is really going to be fired.
The scene with El Coloso and Gloria reminded me of DA cause they looked like they were among the agaves. I wonder what happened to break them up?
I really liked when El Coloso's mariachi mobile broke down in the middle of traffic. Some instant karma maybe : )
I hope it is not a spoiler, but I saw 125 episodes and I still don't know the name of the Amalia illness.
This novela has the life of its own.
Alegria
This novela has the life of its own.
Alegria
Permalink posted by : Sunday, April 21, 2013 at 1:10:00 PM EDT
: Sunday, April 21, 2013 at 1:10:00 PM EDT
Thanks Jardinera, excellent and hilarious as always. Great job.
Coloso's conversation with Prudencia was cute. She was gushing about what a cute couple Maria and Alfredo make. He made a face and when she asked what was wrong he said that his stomach was churning. She suggested that maybe he needed a purgative.
When Coloso's Nacowagon broke down I thought that we were going to have an opportunity for Alfredo to demonstrate his mechanic skills. I wonder if he had it towed or just abandoned it in the street.
One minor annoyance for me has been the way the trumpet players both treat their instruments. Clearly neither play the trumpet. No one who actually plays the trumpet would ever blow his horn as though it were some sot of party noise maker.
Carlos
Coloso's conversation with Prudencia was cute. She was gushing about what a cute couple Maria and Alfredo make. He made a face and when she asked what was wrong he said that his stomach was churning. She suggested that maybe he needed a purgative.
When Coloso's Nacowagon broke down I thought that we were going to have an opportunity for Alfredo to demonstrate his mechanic skills. I wonder if he had it towed or just abandoned it in the street.
One minor annoyance for me has been the way the trumpet players both treat their instruments. Clearly neither play the trumpet. No one who actually plays the trumpet would ever blow his horn as though it were some sot of party noise maker.
Carlos
And how is Santos going to explain the inability to repair a car when the situation calls for it... and we know it eventually will.
UA,
Heck, he can fly a plane, drive a big rig, sing Mariachi...
Fix a car... how hard could that be? He sells them after all.
Carlos
Heck, he can fly a plane, drive a big rig, sing Mariachi...
Fix a car... how hard could that be? He sells them after all.
Carlos
I've not been able to watch this entire week, but thankfully for everyone's recap, I can sort of keep up. I'm hoping to be able to view it starting tomorrow. Can't wait to see what everyone looks like.
I figure Santos knows how to fix cars, maybe learned as a teenager, it would be impossible to fake it.
I figure Santos knows how to fix cars, maybe learned as a teenager, it would be impossible to fake it.
Permalink posted by : Sunday, April 21, 2013 at 3:36:00 PM EDT
: Sunday, April 21, 2013 at 3:36:00 PM EDT
Gracias Jardinera! I got such a laugh out of the recap. Hoopty car, indeed :D "Basketball-sized pocket-protectors" also hadme rolling. And thanks for filling in those last critical minutes. My recording shut off somewhere around Maria and S/JA's conversation.
I'm intrigued by Amalia's illness. I happen to take an injectable medication that's prescribed at 2 shots per week. Even knowing that, I still, when I see someone on a show who needs injections, assume it's for diabetes. The same way whenever a character faints, I think "pregnant!" even though IRL there are multiple reasons for fainting.
I'm intrigued by Amalia's illness. I happen to take an injectable medication that's prescribed at 2 shots per week. Even knowing that, I still, when I see someone on a show who needs injections, assume it's for diabetes. The same way whenever a character faints, I think "pregnant!" even though IRL there are multiple reasons for fainting.
He sells cars with 6-figure sticker prices; he doesn't have to know from repairs.
If his dad is a diplomat I'll bet he never learned how. Flying a plane, however, is realistic; that's a rich man's toy. He could also have once been in the military.
It will be impossible to fake; that much is certain.
If his dad is a diplomat I'll bet he never learned how. Flying a plane, however, is realistic; that's a rich man's toy. He could also have once been in the military.
It will be impossible to fake; that much is certain.
OK, just caught up. It looks like we're going to get a fine parade of Ramerawear and Oscar isn't going to stop calling Santos "pochito," which will ultimately have him spoiling for a fight.
TN Cliche (we need to renumber them): No father ever notices that his daughter is dressed like a cualquiera. Not to mention hair in a color so fake it stands out like a neon light.
TN Cliche (we need to renumber them): No father ever notices that his daughter is dressed like a cualquiera. Not to mention hair in a color so fake it stands out like a neon light.
Urban: Yup, and I'm looking forward to it!
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Thanks, amig@s. Glad you enjoyed it. I really had fun with this recap. I was ROTFLOL with the tryout scene at the end, especially when I reviewed the tape and saw Pablo and the rooster's "response" to JA's singing fiasco. I'm still getting the giggles thinking aout it. Talk about comedic timing--if Pablo does one thing right when he acts, it's that.
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Thanks, amig@s. Glad you enjoyed it. I really had fun with this recap. I was ROTFLOL with the tryout scene at the end, especially when I reviewed the tape and saw Pablo and the rooster's "response" to JA's singing fiasco. I'm still getting the giggles thinking aout it. Talk about comedic timing--if Pablo does one thing right when he acts, it's that.
I'm actually amazed that Pablo hasn't been cast in a romantic comedy novela; his performance in the otherwise ridiculous Rebeca pointed out how appropriate that would be.
UA, during the overrun on friday night, 'Jorge Alfredo' said before he started singing that his condition to Coloso was that if he sang well and stayed (as a singer mariachi in the bar) Coloso needed to stop calling him 'pochito/pocho'. But I am afraid it is a case of 'be careful what you ask for' because Coloso could always find another WORSE nickname to refer to him as. we will see.
Most people in the band and the bar are either siding with Coloso thinking 'Jorge Alfredo' is a liar, or are neutral... maybe after monday's ep, there will be more defined 'teams'.
Most people in the band and the bar are either siding with Coloso thinking 'Jorge Alfredo' is a liar, or are neutral... maybe after monday's ep, there will be more defined 'teams'.
Thank you, Anita.
This is very similar in comparison with the original, where the landlord was charging 'Jorge' $5 per day or so(according to the conversion the leading man himself stated) and also wanted to be paid weekly in advance.
This is very similar in comparison with the original, where the landlord was charging 'Jorge' $5 per day or so(according to the conversion the leading man himself stated) and also wanted to be paid weekly in advance.
Urban:
That would be a great weekend topic of who we would like to see in a romantic comedy that only normally do dramas.
That would be a great weekend topic of who we would like to see in a romantic comedy that only normally do dramas.
Anita
Laughed at your omment about JA and not being shirtless. Over at La Patrona we got a long scene where we saw everything but the family jewles and it looked like the actress got the Full Monty. We've been drooling ever since.
Man I could use a housekeeper/decorator like Maria.
I'm kind of glad to see a novela that seems to be falling nto the color traditional mode. Too many lately have been overy dramatic and/or violent.
Laughed at your omment about JA and not being shirtless. Over at La Patrona we got a long scene where we saw everything but the family jewles and it looked like the actress got the Full Monty. We've been drooling ever since.
Man I could use a housekeeper/decorator like Maria.
I'm kind of glad to see a novela that seems to be falling nto the color traditional mode. Too many lately have been overy dramatic and/or violent.
Permalink posted by : Monday, April 22, 2013 at 4:56:00 PM EDT
: Monday, April 22, 2013 at 4:56:00 PM EDT
Anita
Laughed at your omment about JA and not being shirtless. Over at La Patrona we got a long scene where we saw everything but the family jewles and it looked like the actress got the Full Monty. We've been drooling ever since.
Man I could use a housekeeper/decorator like Maria.
I'm kind of glad to see a novela that seems to be falling nto the color traditional mode. Too many lately have been overy dramatic and/or violent.
Laughed at your omment about JA and not being shirtless. Over at La Patrona we got a long scene where we saw everything but the family jewles and it looked like the actress got the Full Monty. We've been drooling ever since.
Man I could use a housekeeper/decorator like Maria.
I'm kind of glad to see a novela that seems to be falling nto the color traditional mode. Too many lately have been overy dramatic and/or violent.
Permalink posted by : Monday, April 22, 2013 at 4:57:00 PM EDT
: Monday, April 22, 2013 at 4:57:00 PM EDT
I'm trying to catch up on the recaps. Thanks to all the 'cappers and commentors for the laughs and the education.
As a retired librarian, I guess I'll take the mariachi name of La Reina de los Libros.
La Paloma/La Reina de los Libros.
As a retired librarian, I guess I'll take the mariachi name of La Reina de los Libros.
La Paloma/La Reina de los Libros.
Permalink posted by : Monday, April 22, 2013 at 5:06:00 PM EDT
: Monday, April 22, 2013 at 5:06:00 PM EDT
Decie Girl- You forgot the most important info on WHO gave us the near full monty on La Patrona-- hot, hot Dante from Amor Bravio. Ay papi! The actor is definitely getting a chance to show new parts of himself (pun intended) that he didn't get to show as a sidekick in AB. ;-)
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