Wednesday, May 01, 2013
Qué Bonito Amor #13 (Mex 19-20.1) Wednesday 5/1/13
Note:
Until we start getting standard episodes, I will dispense with the
usual divisions of review, present, and preview.
Capitulo
19: The Consequences of Amor, Part 1
JNTR:
To the sound of our dear Don Chente singing the title song,
Maria walks down the lighted pathway through the club, up the
stairs, and to the roof where she finds another rose and the shawl
draped over the gramophone that probably once belonged to Quentin
Collins. We hear an old record playing that is implied is that of
Maria's father. She turns around to see Jorge Alfredo take off the
sombrero on the approach. They kiss to the sound of a couple singing
“Qué Bonito Amor” and this begins to feel like a Hollywood
romance from the 60s. We see that the next Norman Bates
Susanito is the one dropping the rose petals on them. Jorge Alfredo
suddenly pulls back his right hand and he is bleeding from a
splinter. Susanito teases him that working as a cargador would do
that. Maria tells him he didn't have to make this sacrifice for her.
However, he is not concerned with what it takes to show his love.
Garza
Mansion: Justo demands to know what proof the police have.
Commandante Derecho and Curtis tell him they have photos of Santos
living it up in Mexico City. They know where to find him and won't
rest until they get him. [Since we don't see the photo we wonder
how this man is so sure.]
Rooftop:
Jorge Alfredo should be writing The Playboy Advisor
column; he is asking Maria if she knows what it does to him each time
he looks at her. Something about the wings of a thousand doves.
[How many men watch these programs to learn lines like this?
Enquiring minds want to know.] Maria says that all she can do is
love him. More love talk, including Maria's not asking any
questions she should be asking, but telling him that he can always
talk to her about it. He looks away from her for a second, finally
telling her to teach him to forgive what he must and to love so that
can follow all the pain. Movie poster kiss. New song begins.
Club
Room: The new song must have teleported them to this room,
because the lighted signs on the stage are behind them. Oscar and the others arrive dressed to perform (Oscar
in black with red accents and the other guys in red with silver
embroidery) and Oscar applauds sarcastically until Jorge Alfredo
turns around to hear “We have an appointment” which Maria
immediately interprets as their next cockfight, but Oscar tells her
no te preocupes because it's to provide a serenata with the band.
Fernando comments on it, for which Oscar decides to exclude him this
time. Jorge Alfredo is not alright with this and protests but
Fernando tells him it's not worth the trouble; he'll take the
opportunity to provide one of his own that evening. He takes his
guitar and departs. As he gets out the front door he checks his
tweeting cell phone, confirming he has a booty call
private engagement for the evening.
L.A.
Jail: The evil trio of Giuliano, Bruno, and Arnold sit at a
table in the visitors' room. [Bruno and Arnold are probably
relieved to not be near a mirror; not everyone can wear tangerine.]
Giuliano tells them that he will be before the authorities in the
morning with the fake evidence; Bruno comments that this is excellent
news. Giuliano [who thinks he's Michael Corleone] tells Bruno
quite coldly that he has it in his hands to insure that things will
go back to the way they were before. Bruno, however, does not think
so; nothing will be the same again. All he wants is to get Wendy
back [which he deserves] and take her far away from this
nightmare. Giuliano tells him he can... if he denounces Santos.
Bruno comments that this is betraying his best friend, something he
had never done before. As he sits there with crocodile
tears and anguish, Giuliano nods silently to Arnold.
Lawn
of Semi-Suburban House: Oscar asks the client what kind of song
he wants and is told to do something romantic, so his wife won't
leave him. [This client is as drunk as the previous one; what
gives here?] Susanito guesses that the couple had a fight and
he's looking for forgiveness. Oscar dismisses Jorge Alfredo and
tells the guys to play “Ella.” All the guys play and sing. As
their voices carry up to the second floor Fernando opens a window,
looks out, and realizes he is busted! Jorge Alfredo checks that
Oscar isn't watching, takes a few steps closer to the spot directly
below the window and stage-whispers “What is going on?” Fernando
is relieved as he drops his jacket, tie, and whatever else before
climbing out the window and wondering whether he will break his fool
neck jumping down. He starts a quick confession he doesn't complete
as he jumps down and exits in one piece as Jorge Alfredo turns back
to rejoin the others as they finish the song. They look up to see if
the client's wife opens the window. No immediate reaction, but Oscar
is confident there will be; this song never fails. Lo and behold she
does come down in a crimson robe, smiling, and embraces her husband.
As they kiss the band plays their little victory call.
Mendoza
Apartment: Maria listens to another old record on the
gramophone as she studies, but then thinks of Jorge Alfredo. [Note:
Even if this unit could play a late 80s recording it wouldn't sound
like this.] She hears Jorge Alfredo's words as she picks up the
rose he gave her and smiles.
Suburban
Street: Fernando sits on the curb, leaning on his guitar as
Jorge Alfredo catches up with him, laughing. Fernando is a little
embarrassed because he feels like a fool. On some level he must
realize that this would happen sooner or later. He suggests they get
a bite to eat; he knows a good place. Jorge Alfredo hands him his
tie and suggests he spruce himself up first. They exit.
Cantina:
Jairo and Oscar are having a drink and Jairo tries telling
him that Maria may have a moral debt to him, but she will never love
him. She may feel all the gratitude in the world, but that isn't
love. Oscar isn't ready to hear this, saying he will never find a
better woman than Maria. Jairo tells him there are lots of fish in
the sea and he can catch many. Oscar responds that he knows, but
that night long ago [Cue Brief Silent Flashback in
Near-Monochrome] when they were in the hospital and Maria was
crying in his arms he knew he loved her. He intends to keep trying
and won't let El Pochito [¡Salud!]
interfere.
Diner:
Fernando and Jorge Alfredo catch a post-midnight snack after
the narrow escape. Fernando asks whether Jorge Alfredo was
previously single or engaged, but Jorge Alfredo is distracted by the
presence of The L.A. Times being read by a man at the next
table. Finally he turns back to him and Fernando says “You're
hiding something.” Jorge Alfredo says that's it's a question of
honor, a family thing. Fernando realizes there is more to it,
commenting that it has to be something very serious if it's bigger
than amor. When Jorge Alfredo doesn't respond to this, he
excuses himself to go to the restroom, then gets up and leaves the
table. Jorge Alfredo asks the other man's permission to look at the
newspaper, gets it, then immediately finds his photo and an article
saying that Santos Martinez de la Garza is hiding out in Mexico City.
He quickly and deftly tears out the page and folds it, returns the
rest of the paper, and pockets the folded page just as Fernando
returns and sits down. We are now asking ourselves who the hell the
serenata client was because several guys who resemble henchmen enter.
Fernando seems to recognize them and the leader of this nasty trio
says something about having to remind him to stay away from their
boss's wife. He takes out a dagger and brings it down to demonstrate
this. We don't see where it lands yet, but Jorge Alfredo looks up,
shocked. The guy his cut Fernando's hand and comments about giving him
another chance to save his hands... and his life. He hands
Fernando's guitar case to one of the other guys and Fernando tries to
get it back. Obviously this guy is out for blood. Jorge Alfredo
does some quick thinking while he observes this, then gets up to
excuse himself because this has nothing to do with him as their
target is a complete stranger. He excuses himself, basically telling
Fernando that's life and this is his bad luck. He exits. [Ay,
dios mio, is this our pesadilla?]
Oscar's
Apartment: He sits on the couch, strumming his guitar as he
thinks of the earlier events just before leaving the club. One of
his songs is heard as he laments the lack of Maria's love.
Diner:
Jorge Alfredo has not disappointed the flies on the wall after
all; he breaks a chair over the gangster's back. Fernando punches
out the other guy and several punches later a female patron breaks
something over one of the evil ones' heads as our two mariachis make
their getaway to get a cab. One of the gangsters staggers toward the
door, but is held back by the other patrons.
Cab:
The driver asks them where they're going and Fernando finally
tells him “Plaza Garibaldi.” They talk about possibly having to
lie low for a few days.
Mendoza
Apartment: Amalia can't sleep. She notices the gramophone and
Maria tells her that Jorge Alfredo gave it to her. Amalia wonders
how he got the money for it. Of course he worked for it and guess
what? He paid our back rent, Maria tells her. “That means he
loves me, I know it. This is how he shows it.” Amalia is still
stubbornly suspicious. [Callese, metiche; Maria es un adulta.]
Jorge
Alfredo's Apartment: After a few drinks Fernando is
persistently asking Jorge Alfred again about the past that he never
talks about. Jorge Alfredo tells him he has to go back, but says no
more. Fernando is determined, however, saying they should talk
man-to-man. He's sure he's deceiving Maria. Jorge Alfredo tells him
“I love Maria; you've seen me suffer over her.” But he stands up
and the folded newspaper page falls on the floor. He grabs it before
Fernando can, brushing it off as nothing particularly important.
Finally Fernando picks up his guitar to go home to catch a few zzz's.
Jorge Alfredo gives him some cab money, which he refuses. He
expresses his gratitude over the guitar and they share a last trago
before Fernando leaves. Jorge Alfredo sits down on the bed and reads
the article. Fernando returns long enough to retrieve his jacket and
sombrero, then departs.
The
Following Morning
Jorge
Alfredo's Apartment: He wakes up to the sound of police sirens
and the sight of the article. He becomes concerned about them
looking for him.
Fernando's
Apartment: As he looks out the window he remembers what he
thought he saw, saying he has to find out what was in that newspaper.
Mendoza
Apartment, Outside: Isabel hands Jorge Alfredo something
(possibly her math homework so he can look at it) and he leaves.
Garza
Mansion: Justo addresses Giuliano in a way that sounds like he
might be a little suspicious of his willingness to think Santos
guilty. He knows how the law works in the EEUU, so why did Giuliano
recommend that Santos flee? Two hard pairs of eyes stare into each
other.
Mendoza
Apartment: Jorge Alfredo returns to escort Maria to the
university, but is not pleased at seeing the Flowerzilla arrangement.
He asks Isabel about this and she says they were given to Maria. He
compares that to the two roses in the vase and clearly estos celos
are activated again. Maria enters with her bag and before they exit
Jorge Alfredo promises Isabel he will help her with her math. He
takes Maria's bag and she senses that something is wrong. She
correctly guesses that this is about the flowers and that he's
jealous. He admits it and she tells him it's not Oscar's fault.
They exit and we see that Mancia has been eavesdropping. After
comments about “young people today” she declares “Las cartas no
mientan” [TN cliché #15] and that Jorge Alfredo and Maria
are made for each other.
University,
Outside: Jorge Alfredo brusquely hands to bag to Maria with a
“See you later”, which she doesn't allow to stand. They argue
about Oscar, Maria protesting that the kiss Jorge Alfredo thought he
saw was stolen. He asks her if she loves him(self) or not. She says
that it isn't worth the trouble to love him if he will doubt her
every time Oscar makes a move. She tells him to go. Trying to
withhold his reaction to this he turns and walks away, but not fast
enough for her not to catch him when she gets over her own fit of
temper. Finally, he admits the jealousy he feels, even to being
jealous of the sun when it shines on her face. They kiss and make up
and she decides to cut class to show him the city. She wants to live
their love fully. [We hope she's heard of Planned Parenthood.]
They exit.
Garza
Mansion: Giuliano says that what they've found can be
interpreted different ways. However, while none of the individual
things are serious, they all point to guilt with regard to the
dirty money. Justo concedes that it all makes Santos look dishonest
and he doesn't get it. Giuliano brings up that Santos was always
very independent, he left home when young, and started his own
business, and under those conditions it would be easy to go astray. [Really? Most fathers would be proud of such a son.] Justo shakes his head, saying “My son is not guilty. What proof do
you have?” Giuliano mentions Commandante Derecho, but Justo
interrupts saying “You're our lawyer and you're obligated to defend
Santos. Up till now all you've done is bring up what Commandante
Derecho says. Show that my son is innocent, or I will get another
lawyer.” [Por fin, Justo, you are at last showing a bit of
intelligence.]
Mexico
City: From an observation deck in a skyscraper Jorge Alfredo and
Maria look out over the city. Love talk, besos, musica as they walk
around the city into a carnival. She throws darts at a wall of
balloons, eventually winning a large teddy bear. The spinning teacup
ride [Ay, dios mio] and the other corny carnival stuff before
walking through a field. She talks about her parents taking her
there when she was a child. Fairy tales do exist. “Tu es mi
princessa. Nobody will separate us.” [TN cliché #16 and anvil
alert.] Besos.
Library:
Fernando gets online and finds the translation of the article
from the Times.
Field:
Mas romance, mas besos.
Capitulo
20, Part 1. Crashing Down
Don
Concho's Office: They appear to be going over bills and talking
about employees. Jairo wants to talk to him, so Mirna leaves him
alone after a growl or two.
Mendoza
Apartment: Jorge Alfredo brings her home. “Qué bonitos ojos
tienes”, etc. She doesn't want him to leave. He promises to
return. She tells him her heart will hope for his return. He tells
her he will be back later. Besos and she goes inside. We hear Oscar
singing the theme song as they part. Amalia seems to have changed
her tune, saying she is happy to see Maria in the glow of love. She
recalls her own mother opposed her relationship with Pedro. Maria
thinks Jorge Alfredo is worth any suffering.
Fernando's
Apartment: He takes the printout of the internet page with him as he exits.
LA
Jail: Derecho tries to grill Michael. [Considering that
Michael is supposed to be a gringo, why is this not in English?]
Jorge
Alfredo's Apartment: He thinks about Maria as he handles the
teddy bear. Fernando knocks and is admitted. “You and I have to
talk”. He hands him the envelope.
LA
Jail: Michael tells him he was with Santos when the car was
delivered. In a later conversation he said he doesn't trust Giuliano.
Jorge
Alfredo's Apartment: He pulls out the page and Fernando demands
to know if he is the man in the article.
Car:
Mirna rides with Jairo and they talk about furniture.
Jorge
Alfredo's Apartment: Santos admits to his real name and tells
Fernando he's innocent. Fernando isn't buying it. Fernando tells
him he will be quiet if he leaves and never returns to JNTR. He must also stay away from Maria.
L.A.
Jail: Michael continues to defend Santos. Why don't you
interrogate Giuliano? Derecho says something about the papers
regarding the car. He shows him a photo that he says means that Santos is living it up in Mexico City while Michael rots in a jail cell.
Santos'
Apartment: Fernando is trying to lay down the law. He is to
leave Maria in the cruelest way possible or he will turn him in to
the police. Santos caves, saying he will return the traje and leave on La Bestia.
Park:
Mirna is hanging with Jaira. She's cheating on Don Concho, who
will not take this well at all. Booty call. [At least this guy's
got a hot bod.]
Near-Full
Moon
Mendoza
Apartment: Maria puts on her makeup and Isabel teases her.
Maria accuses her of eavesdropping.
Santos
looks up at Maria's window sadly. Lagrimas.
Fernando
shows up to escort Maria to the bar, claiming to be doing this as a
favor to Jorge Alfredo, who isn't feeling well. He tells her not to
worry. They leave.
Santos'
Apartment: Santos looks at the printout, thinking about how much
he loves Maria and how he can't live without her.
Ella
Me
canse de rogarle
Me canse de decirle
Que yo sín ella
De pena muero
Ya no quiso escucharme
Si sus labios se abrieron
Fue pa' decirme
Ya no te quiero
Yo senti que mi vida
Se perdia en un abismo
Profundo y negro
Como mi suerte
Quise hallar el olvido
Al estilo Jalisco
Pero aquellos mariachis
Y aquel tequila
Me hicieron llorar
(INSTRUMENTAL)
Me canse de rogarle
Con el llanto en mis ojos
Alse mi copa
Y brinde con ella
No podia despreciarme
Era el ultimo brindis
De un bohemio
Con una reina
Los mariachis calliaron
De mis manos sín fuerza
Cayo mi copa
Sín darme cuenta
Ella quiso quedarse
Cuando vio mi tristeza
Pero ya estaba escrito
Que aquella noche
Perdiera su amor
Me canse de decirle
Que yo sín ella
De pena muero
Ya no quiso escucharme
Si sus labios se abrieron
Fue pa' decirme
Ya no te quiero
Yo senti que mi vida
Se perdia en un abismo
Profundo y negro
Como mi suerte
Quise hallar el olvido
Al estilo Jalisco
Pero aquellos mariachis
Y aquel tequila
Me hicieron llorar
(INSTRUMENTAL)
Me canse de rogarle
Con el llanto en mis ojos
Alse mi copa
Y brinde con ella
No podia despreciarme
Era el ultimo brindis
De un bohemio
Con una reina
Los mariachis calliaron
De mis manos sín fuerza
Cayo mi copa
Sín darme cuenta
Ella quiso quedarse
Cuando vio mi tristeza
Pero ya estaba escrito
Que aquella noche
Perdiera su amor
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Thanks, UA, I missed the last half of the episode. the Quentin Collins comment and Norman Bates Susanito are so good because they fit so well!:) My favorite over the top moment was the beginning with the rose petals raining down on our happy couple.
Jarifa
La joya del Norte
Jarifa
La joya del Norte
Permalink posted by 
: Thursday, May 2, 2013 at 9:42:00 AM EDT
: Thursday, May 2, 2013 at 9:42:00 AM EDT
UA, great great recap. LOVED the bracket comments... ITA with all of them.
a couple little details.
When Comm Righthanded showed the photo to Michael, we get to see the photo ever so briefly (blink and you miss it) of a close up of JA and Maria on horseback, he looks smiling happy, we see her back as he embraces her.
(Where and how the heck did they locate Santos and who took the picture is still TBD. And if they know where he is, why don't they arrest him yet?)
Also Fernando asked him not only to not return to JNTR but also to not go anywhere near Maria. JA protested saying he had to talk to her but Fernando got louder and said NO WAY JOSE, any story she comes up with to justify your leaving quietly will be better than the ugly truth. So JA says he will leave tomorrow on 'La Bestia'.
JA in the end was mumbling that he could not live without her, 'how will I get to live without you?', basically imagining his returning potentially to a long term in jail.
a couple little details.
When Comm Righthanded showed the photo to Michael, we get to see the photo ever so briefly (blink and you miss it) of a close up of JA and Maria on horseback, he looks smiling happy, we see her back as he embraces her.
(Where and how the heck did they locate Santos and who took the picture is still TBD. And if they know where he is, why don't they arrest him yet?)
Also Fernando asked him not only to not return to JNTR but also to not go anywhere near Maria. JA protested saying he had to talk to her but Fernando got louder and said NO WAY JOSE, any story she comes up with to justify your leaving quietly will be better than the ugly truth. So JA says he will leave tomorrow on 'La Bestia'.
JA in the end was mumbling that he could not live without her, 'how will I get to live without you?', basically imagining his returning potentially to a long term in jail.
Also Comm Righthanded told Michael, as he showed him the photo, that Santos was living the good life in Mex while he let Michael rot in jail alone. Of course this is trying to get Michael to believe Santos is guilty and used him, so if he knows anything, he would give clues to Comm Righthanded.
There was an earlier conversation at the LAPD about the possibility of Santos' family connexions being an impediment to arresting him. The Commandante said he would talk to an acquaintance in D.F. but I don't recall a follow-up on that.
I'm also thinking that only a week or ten days have passed since the premiere episode. We get so caught up in character analysis we neglect this particular detail.
If course the biggest leap of logic we take in this story is that Santos would bolt in the first place when someone as intelligent as he is would know better.
Here's hoping he doesn't cave to Fernando's demand. It's time for him to contact his parents. Western Union can be done through other retail locations (like in pharmacies) and Altagracia can bring cash and not have to identify herself (although I don't know how much she can send before anyone gets suspicious).
I'm also thinking that only a week or ten days have passed since the premiere episode. We get so caught up in character analysis we neglect this particular detail.
If course the biggest leap of logic we take in this story is that Santos would bolt in the first place when someone as intelligent as he is would know better.
Here's hoping he doesn't cave to Fernando's demand. It's time for him to contact his parents. Western Union can be done through other retail locations (like in pharmacies) and Altagracia can bring cash and not have to identify herself (although I don't know how much she can send before anyone gets suspicious).
I am pretty sure they would be following any bank movements of Altagracia that might look suspicious, esp sending money out. She could use a house employee or someone like that, though but they don't know the name that Santos is using, that I know of.
All we know about Comm Righhanded contacting D.F. police is his call to those two idiots Comm Izquierdo? and the pal that was at the bar when Santos appeared to sing Maria Bonita. We have not heard anything since, though.
All we know about Comm Righhanded contacting D.F. police is his call to those two idiots Comm Izquierdo? and the pal that was at the bar when Santos appeared to sing Maria Bonita. We have not heard anything since, though.
It certainly will be a bumpy ride for Santos and Maria in the romance dept with Coloso, Elvira and Ruben aiming at separating them.
Who is taking the pictures of Santos living it up in Mexico City & if the police have somebody that close, why haven't they nabbed him yet?
Permalink posted by : Thursday, May 2, 2013 at 11:34:00 AM EDT
: Thursday, May 2, 2013 at 11:34:00 AM EDT
Another vote on who took the picture and if they had it why didn't Santos get busted at that point. Oh right Telenovelaland.
I was really disappointed in Fernando last night. All along he has been a voice of reason in the group so him going off on Santos and teling him to get the hell out of town was out of character. Somehow he managed to forget or ignore the fact that Santos had saved him and his hands from the thugs. Then he never gave Santos a chance to explain. Sure everybody on the run always says they are innocent so his cynical reaction would be expected but he owed to the msn to st least listen.
Smartest move of the night Justo telling Orange J that maybe he needed a new lawyer.
I was really disappointed in Fernando last night. All along he has been a voice of reason in the group so him going off on Santos and teling him to get the hell out of town was out of character. Somehow he managed to forget or ignore the fact that Santos had saved him and his hands from the thugs. Then he never gave Santos a chance to explain. Sure everybody on the run always says they are innocent so his cynical reaction would be expected but he owed to the msn to st least listen.
Smartest move of the night Justo telling Orange J that maybe he needed a new lawyer.
Permalink posted by : Thursday, May 2, 2013 at 12:44:00 PM EDT
: Thursday, May 2, 2013 at 12:44:00 PM EDT
Urban:
Thanks so much for this wonderful recap and also thank you to Jardinera for her recap this past Friday, for your Monday recap Urban and also Anita's from yesterday.
I am watching this off and on, and I wanted to get a better understanding of the characters. I am slowly being drawn in. This novella is like a musical, really. It is different and unique. I never watched LHDM and don't plan to until this is over. I know a lot of people don't like Meija but I have to say, he really makes remakes his own.
I pull for Santos/Jorge Alfredo and Maria to really get together but if it's not one thing, it's another. It looks like it's going to be long hard road for the two of them.
What is Maria major in college? Have they said? She is studying all the time. Is Mil Amores like Maria's father figure and that's why he is trying to be protective of her? I wish he had let Santos/Jorge Alfredo explain himself. He just cut him off.
Loved the scene with Jairo and Mirna, wow that man is hawt!
Like Anon 11:34 I too would like to know who is taking those pictures and why they haven't arrested Jorge Alfredo? I know this has been analyzed to death, but what if Santos/Jorge Alfredo is an American citizen, son of a diplomat with immunity? Or another thought, what if the cops are waiting for Santos/Jorge Alfredo to have a meet with the Godfather in order to nab both maybe? Just a thought.
Thanks so much for this wonderful recap and also thank you to Jardinera for her recap this past Friday, for your Monday recap Urban and also Anita's from yesterday.
I am watching this off and on, and I wanted to get a better understanding of the characters. I am slowly being drawn in. This novella is like a musical, really. It is different and unique. I never watched LHDM and don't plan to until this is over. I know a lot of people don't like Meija but I have to say, he really makes remakes his own.
I pull for Santos/Jorge Alfredo and Maria to really get together but if it's not one thing, it's another. It looks like it's going to be long hard road for the two of them.
What is Maria major in college? Have they said? She is studying all the time. Is Mil Amores like Maria's father figure and that's why he is trying to be protective of her? I wish he had let Santos/Jorge Alfredo explain himself. He just cut him off.
Loved the scene with Jairo and Mirna, wow that man is hawt!
Like Anon 11:34 I too would like to know who is taking those pictures and why they haven't arrested Jorge Alfredo? I know this has been analyzed to death, but what if Santos/Jorge Alfredo is an American citizen, son of a diplomat with immunity? Or another thought, what if the cops are waiting for Santos/Jorge Alfredo to have a meet with the Godfather in order to nab both maybe? Just a thought.
The newspaper article said "Mexican businessman Santos Martinez de la Garza" so I think Santos probably is a Mexican citizen (but I'm not sure if Wendy was born in US or not).
In (sort of) defense of Fernando:
He's known Maria a lot longer than Santos and Coloso & Co. have been telling him that something isn't right with Jorge Alfredo, that he's hiding something. And now he has proof that Jorge Alfredo is hiding something, and it's big: he's wanted for crimes in the United States. Fernando doesn't want to see Maria fall in deeper knowing that Jorge Alfredo could be picked up by the law any minute and hauled off to an American jail so he's like "scram while you can."
In (sort of) defense of Fernando:
He's known Maria a lot longer than Santos and Coloso & Co. have been telling him that something isn't right with Jorge Alfredo, that he's hiding something. And now he has proof that Jorge Alfredo is hiding something, and it's big: he's wanted for crimes in the United States. Fernando doesn't want to see Maria fall in deeper knowing that Jorge Alfredo could be picked up by the law any minute and hauled off to an American jail so he's like "scram while you can."
Permalink posted by : Thursday, May 2, 2013 at 1:37:00 PM EDT
: Thursday, May 2, 2013 at 1:37:00 PM EDT
Thank you UA, for giving us another great recap, even with all the gathering clouds of doom.
I also thought Fernando's turning on Jorge Alfredo so quickly was surprising, especially after he saved his rear end the night before. You'd think he'd have asked for cash to keep his mouth closed. (Where are you Anibal when we need your millones de pesos.)
Now I understand why we got all the schmooozy, kissy, cheesy, huggy, fun day in the city with Jorge Alfredo and Maria. It's all we're going to have for a long, long time, especially if he falls of the Bestia (no spoiler, we all saw it in the avances) and in true tn cliche fashion, loses him memory for six months.
Fernando was quick to jump to conclusions, when JA admitted to being the person the authorities were looking for. OTOH, he is probably thinking of himself and the mariachi group to be associated with a delinquente when he gets caught. The Maria thing is a bit of a stretch. Fernmilamor has no right to interfere with JA's relationship with Maria. And, what else can JA say to her except that Me tengo que ir came sooner than he had expected. I do recall that Fer and Sus (I think it was with Sus) had a brief, one-line conversation after seeing JA & Maria together, about JA's having to leave and Fer mused that he didn't think JA had any intention of ever leaving.
My main worry, folks, is who is going to pay the rent on Maria's apartment after he disappears? Amalia will feel vindicated in her assessment that JA was a no-good opportunist taking advantage of her daughter after all.
Another thought, if Celoso has so much money, why didn't he pay their back rent--she could have paid him back like she did before--a prestamo and not a regalo. Ooops, I think one corner of my Emilia-made beanie just came unravelled. Ok, ok, maybe he didn't know and maybe she didn't mention it, but still....
I think Maria and her saucy-wench friends are studying computer technology. I think I heard right.
Oye, Mirna. Be careful, woman, remember which side of the bread your very expensive creamery butter is on. Yet, she's willing to take a chance with a hawt, tight body (that's what she wanted to see on the picnic), who works so near that butter. The excuse she gave Don Concho was that she was going to go look at furniture, but she packed a picnic basket that was on the back seat of the car. It didn't take El Aventurero long to figure out it was a ruse.
Anita, La Dama del Queso
I also thought Fernando's turning on Jorge Alfredo so quickly was surprising, especially after he saved his rear end the night before. You'd think he'd have asked for cash to keep his mouth closed. (Where are you Anibal when we need your millones de pesos.)
Now I understand why we got all the schmooozy, kissy, cheesy, huggy, fun day in the city with Jorge Alfredo and Maria. It's all we're going to have for a long, long time, especially if he falls of the Bestia (no spoiler, we all saw it in the avances) and in true tn cliche fashion, loses him memory for six months.
Fernando was quick to jump to conclusions, when JA admitted to being the person the authorities were looking for. OTOH, he is probably thinking of himself and the mariachi group to be associated with a delinquente when he gets caught. The Maria thing is a bit of a stretch. Fernmilamor has no right to interfere with JA's relationship with Maria. And, what else can JA say to her except that Me tengo que ir came sooner than he had expected. I do recall that Fer and Sus (I think it was with Sus) had a brief, one-line conversation after seeing JA & Maria together, about JA's having to leave and Fer mused that he didn't think JA had any intention of ever leaving.
My main worry, folks, is who is going to pay the rent on Maria's apartment after he disappears? Amalia will feel vindicated in her assessment that JA was a no-good opportunist taking advantage of her daughter after all.
Another thought, if Celoso has so much money, why didn't he pay their back rent--she could have paid him back like she did before--a prestamo and not a regalo. Ooops, I think one corner of my Emilia-made beanie just came unravelled. Ok, ok, maybe he didn't know and maybe she didn't mention it, but still....
I think Maria and her saucy-wench friends are studying computer technology. I think I heard right.
Oye, Mirna. Be careful, woman, remember which side of the bread your very expensive creamery butter is on. Yet, she's willing to take a chance with a hawt, tight body (that's what she wanted to see on the picnic), who works so near that butter. The excuse she gave Don Concho was that she was going to go look at furniture, but she packed a picnic basket that was on the back seat of the car. It didn't take El Aventurero long to figure out it was a ruse.
Anita, La Dama del Queso
Decie girl--stepped on your toes. Should have said ITA with you re Fernando's behavior.
UA, I also saw the fleeting photo of Maria & JA, with her back to him in an embrace. It couldn't have been our friendly, horsey photographer, could it? I wonder if he did take the photo, but someone intercepted it--unless he's up to speed and using digital and transferring them himself. We'll have to wait and see.
UA, I also saw the fleeting photo of Maria & JA, with her back to him in an embrace. It couldn't have been our friendly, horsey photographer, could it? I wonder if he did take the photo, but someone intercepted it--unless he's up to speed and using digital and transferring them himself. We'll have to wait and see.
Yes, Anon 207, ITA with you, too, for the reason for Fernando's reaction. Still, I wish he'd been nicer about it--helped him get away. Probably JA wouldn't have left unless someone threatened to turn him in. We'll see, no?
The horse photographer was using an old Polaroid camera for his photos, so no way they could be digital unless someone went to the trouble of scanning the photo and sending the scan to the Los Angeles Police Department.
But even if the photographer took a picture of Santos and Maria on horseback, with or without them requesting it, why would he give it out or sell it out after what JA did for him?
I too agree with Anon's reasons for Fernando bashing at JA about his identity and huge baggage of issues with the US law... Fernando has known Maria and her family for a long time, so his loyalty resides with them, especially now that he knows Santos has been lying to her and using the bar and the mariachis to 'hide' from the law, also putting them all in jeopardy of falling in a cell along with him when the law finds him. But most of all he is concerned of Maria's pain... if he knows Maria he knows she does not tolerate lies so she will really be hurt and the deeper they get into their relationship the more it will hurt her.
Whether he knew Maria's dad is still tbd.
I too agree with Anon's reasons for Fernando bashing at JA about his identity and huge baggage of issues with the US law... Fernando has known Maria and her family for a long time, so his loyalty resides with them, especially now that he knows Santos has been lying to her and using the bar and the mariachis to 'hide' from the law, also putting them all in jeopardy of falling in a cell along with him when the law finds him. But most of all he is concerned of Maria's pain... if he knows Maria he knows she does not tolerate lies so she will really be hurt and the deeper they get into their relationship the more it will hurt her.
Whether he knew Maria's dad is still tbd.
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Calling on Caraymates in the DC-Metro area! Anita and I are headed to a Lila Downs concert in Manassas (http://www.hyltoncenter.org/calendar/242/) this Sunday, Cinco de Mayo, with some amigas but one of Anita's amigas has dropped out and we have an extra ticket. If you would like to attend the concert with us and a few other fun women, please e-mail Anita asap at: almeg "at" verizon "dot" net. I think you can figure out that e-mail address.
Calling on Caraymates in the DC-Metro area! Anita and I are headed to a Lila Downs concert in Manassas (http://www.hyltoncenter.org/calendar/242/) this Sunday, Cinco de Mayo, with some amigas but one of Anita's amigas has dropped out and we have an extra ticket. If you would like to attend the concert with us and a few other fun women, please e-mail Anita asap at: almeg "at" verizon "dot" net. I think you can figure out that e-mail address.
I'm already missing the kissing and dreading the hurt that's coming.
I loved the "who is going to pay the rent" line. HA!
While the lead characters suffer, I do look forward to more of Paloma and Rodrigo adventures. He's adorably juvenile and she has the most wondrous smile.
Never saw that photo shocker coming. WHo took it?
I loved the "who is going to pay the rent" line. HA!
While the lead characters suffer, I do look forward to more of Paloma and Rodrigo adventures. He's adorably juvenile and she has the most wondrous smile.
Never saw that photo shocker coming. WHo took it?
Permalink posted by : Thursday, May 2, 2013 at 5:11:00 PM EDT
: Thursday, May 2, 2013 at 5:11:00 PM EDT
Thanks for an excellent recap, UA. And thanks to those who explained Fernando's reasons for insisting that JA get out of town. I was scratching my head (under my beanie) about that one.
The "young lovers in a field of flowers scene" had everything but the slo mo. Don't know why JA kept Mr. Osito. I wondered if he was going to stuff a secret letter to Maria in the bear and pass it to her.
I guess Isa will miss out on her math tutoring now.
Ay, the heartbreak! I'll only be able to deal with it if they provide lots of sad mariachi songs along the way.
La Paloma, la Reina de los Libros
The "young lovers in a field of flowers scene" had everything but the slo mo. Don't know why JA kept Mr. Osito. I wondered if he was going to stuff a secret letter to Maria in the bear and pass it to her.
I guess Isa will miss out on her math tutoring now.
Ay, the heartbreak! I'll only be able to deal with it if they provide lots of sad mariachi songs along the way.
La Paloma, la Reina de los Libros
Permalink posted by : Thursday, May 2, 2013 at 5:20:00 PM EDT
: Thursday, May 2, 2013 at 5:20:00 PM EDT
I am going to guess that there was some conversation between the idiot cop in LA and a Mexican amigo of his and said Mexican amigo is the one who took the photo of Santos. I don't think the photographer would conclude that there was anything shady about a man who rescues a child, which saves him from a lawsuit he can't afford.
I am wondering whether the teddy bear symbolizes an hijo, but if that's the case why didn't we have a scene that definitely shows the possibility? Neither of these actors has a problem with that.
I am wondering whether the teddy bear symbolizes an hijo, but if that's the case why didn't we have a scene that definitely shows the possibility? Neither of these actors has a problem with that.
Vivi, I can't make it because I'm going to be at the big Spring Fling by Sniffapalooza. I hope to get lots of good loot!
La Paloma--that is an excellent speculation--about the bear. But he'd better hurry. Even if he does, would Maria rip it open just to bury her face in leftover Jorge scent?
My guess is that UA's Sniffapalooza has to do with her perfume and scent bloggers.
My guess is that UA's Sniffapalooza has to do with her perfume and scent bloggers.
It's all about perfume and it sounds like something that should have been in a Sex & the City episode.
Which annoys me when I think about the fact that that show took place in NYC and none of those ladies ever had Salsa Fever.
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