Caray, Caray!

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wow,

Bianca and Bruno were so doomed from the first day they met,
so I won't dwell on their story,

(other than Bianca's last twitter)
http://instagram.com/p/azJYipyq6l/#
(or Bruno's)
http://instagram.com/p/a1f2QdNw4p/#

loved that Santi closed out the story,
hope to see him again some day,
he makes life worth living,

and Yair, I guess when he told Ariel the truth,
it healed his soul, and then his body,
touching, that Cami was there waiting for him,

all said,
I loved how Ariel got his family back,
and after what, 20 years, he kissed Deniz,
and Santi, Nina, cheered,
I did too,

thanks so much Adriana Noel and NovelaMan for your recaps,
and thanks everyone for your comments, good friends here.


 

Cielos
Kelly did a great recap on last wks thread.
 

CIELOS:

Thanks so much Variopinta for pointing out that Kelly had the recap up on last week's thread. It's been pushed off the main page, so folks who use their phones might have a hard time finding it and seeing it.

Kelly- Amazing recap. I was cursing when Alba called and told Ximena that Cleto had a heart attack and was at death's door, but it was up to her if she wanted to come back (classic mother guilt trip technique). I was hoping Xi wouldn't, but after her memory of her last real discussion with Cleto where he admits to not being a good person, but to always trying to be a good father, I knew she couldn't abandon him on his death bed.

AC could take some lessons in fatherhood from Cleto. But as said by everyone, the man is loyal to no one and respects nothing (not even his children). It was actually Turco who pointed out he shouldn't rough up Ximena in front of the kids, and that's when AC told him to take the kids away. Otherwise, I'm not sure that he wouldn't have slapped her in front of the kids. Jerk! I wish Beto was there to see what his dad did. I wonder how he would have reacted.

That was a close call for Leo. I hope she can get those bullets back, or has a stash somewhere else. Marco was ready to bust into the ranch, guns blazing, to get her out of there.

I hope Marco can get Ximena into some sort of protection program with her daughters. He seems to think that Alba and Ximena know more than they do/are more involved in the biz than they are. Neither one of them is privy to AC's and Chacorta's plans/business. They are completely out of the loop, so I'm not sure that they could offer him much information in exchange for protection. I did really like Marco's interaction with Alba, and look forward to him meeting Ximena.

Cabo and Tijeras continue to be funny (yet dangerous killers). I had been wondering how they were going to get past this issue that they both want Monica. Of course they settle it with a bet. If Tijeras wins, he gets all the money in Cabo's fat wallet; if Cabo wins, he gets Tijeras' special gun.

Do they just want to sleep with Monica once, or do they each want her to be their long-term woman? I want Monica to toy with them, and then screw them over (not screw them). Triste was really funny, shaking his head in the background as they both came on to Monica. Between Triste and Monica, and Oscar making plans for payback with Topo, I'm not sure how much longer Cabo and Tijeras are going to be around.

 

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I was going to make a comment thanking Kelly for her great recap of Friday's episode, but I found myself instead wanting to comment on the unfortunate timing that has obscured her contribution. Though I'm really grateful that there's a Telemundo page on CarayCaray, I've several times found myself wondering whether it would be better to wait until Monday (or at least Sunday night) to put up the page for the next week. The Friday recaps and comments seem to me to belong with the rest of the week's recaps, and I at times have found myself hesitant to post as the week draws to a close, since I'm uncertain whether what I say will be much less visible as soon as the next week's page goes up.

I'm not sure who is in charge of putting up the new page, but I wonder whether in the future its posting could be delayed until the end of the weekend. Perhaps there's a good reason for leaving things as they are, but I thought I'd raise the issue.
 

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It took me awhile to understand that we start the wk on Fri. Kelly recapped before the wkly thread was up.

Alba did advise Ximena not to come back, but since she told her, of course she would. Ximena hitchhiking I thought was very scary.

I was worried about Aurelio finding out about Turco, Ximena & Alba's calls, but back in the 90's they probably weren't able to save the calls, or list recent calls.

Does Cleto suspect that Aurelio is the one that set him up yet?

Oscar wants to whack Cabo & Tijeras
Monica wants to whack Aurelio & probably Cabo & Tijeras
Topo wants to whack Aurelio & help Oscar with Cabo & Tijeras.
Cabo & Tijeras wants to whack Oscar
Aurelio wants to whack anyone that gets in his way.

I doubt Berto would have reacted negatively to Aurelios treatment of his mom. That is his roll model & he will think that's the way to handle women since AC is so successful in that field. Berto was a little rough with Raquel.

Do we know when Aurelio & Matilde got it on? Before she & Chacorta married?
 

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Kelly, thanks so much for your excellent recap of Friday's episode (and thanks too to Variopinta for calling attention to it). I too am now fearful that Nino isn't long for this world. What a commentary on the narcotraficante world when apologies and/or treating someone decently are a sign that all is not well! (I think too of Mónica with Miss Sinaloa.)

I loved your referring to Mati as the Succubus. What a great name! Perhaps we should use that from now on. Of course, the Succubus is no slouch in the names department either. I enjoyed her referring to Leo/Claudia as Draculita (I think that was in Thursday's episode).

Like you, I was surprised and nervous when Leo started talking to Orejas et al. without first locking the door.

Vivi, I too liked the way Marco's interactions with Doña Alba softened as he began to realize her decency. Perhaps his anguish over his own mother played a role here.

And thanks, Vivi, for providing the details of the bet between Cabo and Tijeras. I saw Cabo take out his wallet and Tijeras lovingly hold the gun, but I missed most of what they were saying and so wasn't really sure what was going on.
 

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Adiana Noel and NovelaMan - thank you so much for your very detailed and wonderful recaps. Although I couldn't watch this TN very often, I read your postings to follow the destinies of these characters. I saw most of the last episode because like so many who were commenting, I couldn't imagine how all the loose ends would be handled. And what an ending! THANK YOU again for all the time you put into making PP so enjoyable!

Beth
 

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Kelly - thank you for the quick and excellent recap. Our CC is worse than my Spanish, so I truly appreciate your efforts.

I did catch part of the "guilt" conversation between Marco and Alba. At first I thought he was playing her for info on Cleto and AC, but then it became obvious that he really was hurting and blaming himself for his mother's death. Alba struck me as very intuitive and able to turn the discussion from herself to him. It was a very powerful scene.

What great acting and camera work! Triste, in the background behind Tijeras, was shaking his head and looking like he couldn't believe what he was hearing when Tijeras offered to console and be there for Monica. Too funny!

Leo is good! She did a masterful job of turning the confrontation with AC around to him and defusing the gun situation.

Mathilde IS the succubus. But AC is on to her and even immune now. During the scene in Leo's room, I thought he actually looked disgusted by Mati's behavior for a fleeting moment.

And, even if Beto hadn't slept with her, that "bathing thong" Mati had on at the pool would turn any man's head.

Ximena lost her chance for freedom. I fear the only way Ximena will ever leave AC's ranch now will be when one of them dies.

Beth
 

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Add my deepest gratitude for the dedication of recappers AdrianaNoel and NovelaMan. The work you put in added greatly to my enjoyment of this TN.
I'm hoping to read a detailed recap of this final epi because at 8:50 PM a distraction occurred at my house that took my attention away from Santi's final recap.
J in Oregon

 

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And so it ended.

They didn't change the original in what was most important, Bianca killing herself. I have to say with that last action she did kind of prove she was nothing like her mother: it only took her one, very effective attempt, to end it all.

I was not expecting Yair to live, he didn't survive in the other version; I am glad for Camila, but I still think he was one of the most irritating characters I've ever seen.

Seeing Bruno at Bianca's grave was only a small comfort, but I am glad he has all his life to think about Bianca and his cowardice. Again alone in the world, like the poor orphan he once was...but what is that? Eliana is standing by him? Again, a difference from the original, one I don't like, because Bruno doesn't deserve it, but, then again, some might say Bianca took the easy way out in confessing and then killing herself, while Bruno was left to face the wrath.

Ariel kissing Deniz at the end seemed kind of forced...but I guess the P family deserves some peace and quiet after all the hoopla!

So glad Flavia got hers, too, while Pene managed to get away from her.
And Willy with a baby at his age...LOL

This has been a great experience, I will not forget this tn soon.
I admit I knew the original ending early on, I kept hoping they would change it, but as time went by, I realized there was no other way for it to be over.
I am left with a sour taste in my mouth, but I enjoyed chatting with you all soooo much. I hope we meet again for a new tn, on Telemundo or Univision.
 

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Huge, huge thanks to AdrianaNoel and NovelaMan for your time and dedication producing such complete and clever recaps, added a lot to the experience !!
And great comments everybody all along too.
Bianca paid a heavy price for her few moments of passion. Interesting the writers did address the point someone made [sorry, I forgot who] about she could not commit suicide if pregnant.
deb I too liked the Santi summary.
It was coming fast at the end, and we had some mini emotional pay-offs amid the dread.
Was this a flaw, did not cover the fall-out between Bruno and Ariel. Yes at the grave scene the implication is that Eliana is taking care of him now, but this was such a large part of the plot.
For AdrianaNoel and anyone else who saw the Turkish version, how else was it same/different?
I did love PP and it leaves a void! Hope to see you guys soon.
Clara

 

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I am left with a few questions because my attention was forced away from the TV, if anyone cares to fill me in:
Did it turn out Bianca wasn't pregnant after all?
Did Sylvia get pregnant and snare Willy into marriage?
Why did Daniel cancel the engagement to Flavia?
Bruno looked miserable enough at the cemetery to satisfy me, and I was rather pleased that Elianna was there for him. Totally shocked by the resuscitation of Yair. Was disappointed that bobble-headed Nina got to totter off happily at the end, although seeing her faint (for real) at the wedding brought a certain satisfaction.
But it was odd, when Bianca lay there at the end, there was no screaming or crying...it was very quiet.
J in Oregon
 

Whoops! Sorry about the post on the wrong page. I've been awake enough to recap after 11 but not enough to notice that.

I'm hoping that Ximena and Marco are able to come to an agreement that will help her. She's certainly not on Aurelio's side anymore, and he's even losing his own mother. Maybe Ximena should give any tickets she has left to Aida before Matilde gets hold of little Victor.

I wasn't sure about the whole narconovela thing at first but I'm really liking this show. It doesn't glamorize the drug trade but doesn't turn the dealers into caricatures either. Except maybe Tijeras and Cabo, but lord knows we need the comic relief.

Tijeras fashion report: Yellow pants that I want, in girl version of course. The watercolor shirt he can keep.

Kelly
 

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J in Oregon, to answer your questions until NovelaMan comes up with the recap:
- Santi said Bianca was not pregnant, during the autopsy they found no baby, so that means that she either had an abortion or she only thought she was pregnant (her crazy mind made that up, since she sure believed it while talking at her dad's grave). I guess we're left wondering with this a little bit.

- Sylvia did turn out pregnant; while Santi was telling Yair how Guilly lost half his fortune to Nuria in the divorce, we saw Silvia showing him her belly

- I don't remember if Santo told Yair why Daniel left Flavia, but I guess it was kind of implied that he did it because of the scandal and realizing that the Santillanas were really not a good crowd to get yourself tangled with

In the end Eliana proved that she did love Bruno, I'll give her that.
I think Neena deserved to be happy. Young, stupid and naive she was, but there was not an evil bone in her body.

When Bianca fell, I guess people were either to shocked to scream, or, the better explanation, the sound was cut for a better dramatic effect.

Clara, PP and the Turkish version were almost identical up until the end. What was different:
-Yair died in the other one; they shoed both his and Bianca's funerals at the same time; at Bianca's there was her sister and Nico, also Flavia, who had suffered a stroke and had a crooked face; at Yair's, all the servant, especially Camila, bowling their eyes out
-Neena went into a sort of a catatonic state for a while, it took them a year to sell the old house and move; they even showed a scene with the empty rooms, which I found very powerful; the connection between Ariel and Deniz was only implied, something that would happen in the future, there was no kiss and no letter giving
- Flavia left the house just before the wedding, she knew Bianca was going to reveal everything, but she wanted to be gone to save her own skin
- Bianca didn't die in front of teh whoel world; the wedding was going to take place somewhere in the city,but Bruno received a message from Flavia, telling him that Bianca was going to confess everything to Ariel. So Bruno ran to her, called her asking her to keep quiet (even then, she still hoped he was calling to tell her they would run away together); in the meantime Deniz tells Ariel about the affair and to go talk to Yair. He does that and yair tells him the truth just as Bruno is getting into Bianca's room.
They showed Ariel running from the taller into the house, with Bruno pleading with Bianca not to say anything, Ariel trying to bust open the locked door.
Neena, dressed as a bride, finds out from Santi about the message (he was with Bruno and read it, too) and runs back to the house, too.
When Ariel finally opens the door, he only gets to say: "you were my son" to Bruno. Then Bianca looks at them both and shots herself. Neena, on the stairs, faints.
It was all very dramatic! Not saying this version wasn't, but I found the other one better.

There were several moments throughout the story when the Turkish version had an extra dramatic effect. I distinctly remember the one where Bruno watches Bianca and Ariel kissing in the balcony. The Turkish actor played that to perfection, I don't think JC Canela was given the right script here.
But there were others when I preferred PP, like the second kiss on the dock (in the original it happened in Bianca's car) or the fact that Flavia didn't abandon Bianca in the end.
 

Cielos:

Thanks for the great recap, Kelly.

I haven't seen any of the episodes this week, since I'm on vacation, but after reading the recaps, and based on what happened earlier, I think that even though Monica knows Aurelio ordered Isidro's death, she still might not want him dead. Why? First of all, she loves him (or is obsessed with him). And second, since she did trynto kill Ximena, she may justify Aurelio's revenge for that. But I could be wrong.
 

Cielos
I think once again Aurelio will sweet talk Monica. He is the master at manipulation.

The only women that have his number are his mom, Ximena, Leo, probably Irina because she is a manipulator herself.

Speaking of Irina, I expect sth surprising from her.
 

Thanks AdrianaNoel for the fill-in. So sad. But I felt that seeing the depth of Bruno's suffering, he was being punished for the rest of his life. Bianca really did pay for his cowardice. Flavia was such a big contributor to Bianca's downfall, I wish we had seen more "justice" for her.
J in Oregon
 

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I still can't figure out where that random boat in the backyard came from a few episodes back.

I'm going to miss this tn, but plot-wise it was time to end it. I was very satisfied with the miserable, guilty "I'm your murderer" Bruno scene at the end, until Eliana came in. IMO, Bruno needs to be emotionally tortured and alone for a loooong time before he gets back in the saddle.

The silence right after her suicide was a little anti-climactic I thought... would have liked to hear some wailing from someone. As terrible as this sounds, and I can't believe I'm saying this, but I would have liked that scene to be a little uglier, more raw. It was a bit "pretty" for me and it didn't seem to match the turmoil going on inside our characters. Oh, my, Bianca... you got a little spot of something on your dress! Of course, I know in TNland, "pretty" is the rule. I'd really like to see some of the Turkish version now... do they have any with subtitles?

Ariel doesn't pay, even emotionally, for the rape. Not haunted at all. Boo. Very happy for Santi, though... his future looks much brighter!

Wow, when someone mentioned Yair's recovery after he told Ariel the truth, it hit me how symbolic his tuberculosis was--it was like a physical manifestation of the secret eating him alive. How did I miss that? Was he sick before he found out about B&B? I don't remember.

So they found out Bianca wasn't pregnant... I wondered how the writers would deal with that. My theory is that Bianca made it up out of desperation but started believing it as she descended into complete madness.

I think I'm pretty satisfied with this ending, even though I would have preferred it if Bruno wound up alone forever and Bianca got her new start with WL in LA.
 

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Thanks Adriana Noel and NovelaMan for taking time to write up the detailed recaps!! I'm sure it's very time consuming, but it was so helpful to fill in the holes that I missed!! I really appreciate all your hard work :)
 

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AnotherAmy, hmm, the yacht tied up at the back of the house was an integral part of the story early on, Bruno took Santi, Neena, Bianca, and maybe Deniz, out on it once, the servants were invited by Neena but Bianca kicked them off, and I think they also went out on it later, but they hadn't shown it for quite awhile, probably because of the dent it was putting in the budget,

I went to the library today and watched the last segment again with english captions, which I don't have, wow again, this really was an amazing gran final,

some things I noted in Santi's wrap up were,

since Flavia was a part of all of this mess, Ariel kicked her out of the house as fast as he could, then later on she broke up with Daniel, but no definite reason was given, then she was planning on going with Nicolas and family, but that didn't happen, so we really don't know what happened to her,

Sleazy Silvia's pregnancy made the front page of the gossip magazine, (I'm so happy Guillo finally got the family he deserves),

Jencarlos Canela and Mónica Spear were in my opinion beyond spectacular,

at Bianca's grave, one of the last things Bruno said to her was,
"if I would have just taken your hand, like you asked..."

 

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Adriana Noel/NovelaMan - my sincerest thank you for the recaps; I truly enjoyed reading them, esp w/ the tinge of humor.

I wish to heaven I hadn't read the synopsis of Ask-i Memnu before PP started; didn't know it contained the spoiler ending. All this time I was so hopeful they'd change the ending of PP. it's the proverbial one bad apple- in this case, one bad episode spoiled the entire tn. not really but you know what i mean.

I found it absurd that with all those people standing around at the wedding, stupefied, not one tried to take the gun away from Bianca. I get she wasn't likeable, but que the heck? It made more sense in the original with just her and Bruno in a room, that he didn't have the inclination to take the gun for whatever reason. And why did Eliana have to show up in the end??

I don't even want to get into Flavia, Yair, Nina, Ariel, et al.

I really had a fun time with everyone here (incl deb, J in Oregon, Clara, AnotherAmy, Beth), and looked forward to reading comments/recaps everyday, for the past 6months.

 

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almost forgot to mention Jencarlos/Monica's outstanding performance!! love them!!! also both their wardrobe and physical beauty!!
 

LA PATRONA - Friday, (episode 116)

Gabriela continues her chat with David in his cell,
Alejandro shows up and joins them,
(the cell door isn't even locked)
did Alejandro say he knew about Gabriela the first day she returned,
David hugs them both,
Balmy shows up and breaks things up,

Macario comes to the hospital with a nice basket of fruit for Lucas,
the guard won't let him in the room,

Lucia comes home (the Montemar house) to a welcoming party by Irene,
Patti quietly watches them,

Antonia drops by to see David,
once again David says he didn't stab Lucas,
and once again Antonia doesn't really care,

Alejandro meets with the striking miners,
he asks for time,
till the rightful owners, the Suárez, take over,
"what?" go the miners,

Patti is still having fits over Ricardo,
Irene gives her a little push, and so she heads for his office,
(for maybe a little desktop recreation),
all is going well,
when Luisa shows up,

Ricardo ends up leaving,
Patti and Luisa chat,

Antonia sees Balmy's suspect board, what's this she asks,
Balmy explains every unsolved death seems to be tied back to her,

the judge that handled Anibal's hearing (I didn't recognize her at first).
stops by to see him, with a female doctor, to check on his health,
while Anibal is confused, they determine he is healthy enough to return to jail,
Poncia doesn't seem to be of much help to him,

Gabriela chats with Constanza,
she is so happy to finally be reunited with David,
and Alejandro, when are you going to tell him,
'tell me what", Alejandro demands to know as he comes around the corner,

Poncia brings David a note from Cecilia,
she mentions that he has the most wonderful mother in the world,
Balmy comes upon them and quietly listens,
he asks Poncia if Antonia really did all of these bad things,
she replys, "and more",
reminds him of when she was poisoning Valentina,
David remembers,
González interrupts Balmy's ease dropping,

Anibal, is taken back to jail through a crowd of reporters,
and is welcomed back by the Tigres, (Gabriela,Alejandro,Constanza, and Ric)

he is put in a cell near Davids who asks González why he is here,
González explains how Anibal had his wife locked away in the manicomio,
(this has been a big day for David)

back at the mansion the Tigre's discuss their revenge plans,
once again, an unhappy Alejandro leaves...


 

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ShallowGal, the commenters here became like a family and added so much to the whole "pasion" experience. I, too, made the mistake several months ago of reading the synopsis of the Turkish version with its spoiler ending; I kept praying maybe they would change the ending but no. Poor Bianca. Too bad they didn't have her hand shoot up out of the grave and grab that faithless Bruno around the throat, muahhahaha! But really. He still needs to suffer. A lot.
I will be onboard for Dama y Obrero.
Husband for Hire looks good also.
Hope to see you all again on Monday!!
J in Oregon
J in Oregon.

 

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Amy, watch the finale of the Turkish version, you don't even need to understand what they're saying (since you already know what is going on). After Bianca kills herself (Bruno didn't think she'll do it until the last moment, he was desperate to get her to calm down and not tell Ariel the truth), she falls on the ground and blood spills on her immaculate dress and skin...it truly is amazing to watch.
Search Ask-i Memnu Finale on youtube.
There are several other scenes you might enjoy, but without the translation it will be difficult - I started watching them as as I was watching PP, too, and I could really compare them; drama wise the original felt more powerful to me, but I loved Bruno and Bianca so much anyway.

Oh, yeah, Bruno's last scene at the grave, with the rain, felt more dramatic than the other one...or maybe it was because as I was watching I kept thinking that this will be the last time in a long while when I see JC Canela in a tn...(now, that is drama).

It looks like many of us already knew the ending and hoped for a change...and we all went around it every time we made a comment, not to spoil it for everyone else. We managed to keep the worst kept secret, one that was all over the Internet :))

I'm moderately curious to see the new tn, Dama y Obrero, check it out for a while. I like Ana L., but her galan in this one... I don't know. Tns are all pretty much the same (PP excluded!), so I need a good galan to stay tuned.

But if more of you are interested, we could take turns writing brief recaps the first week, see how we like it. What I did with PP I won't be able to do again, it was very time consuming (but so enjoyable), but if we could come up with a system like the ones I saw for La Patrona and Cielo where I think more people do the recap...

 

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One day before the wedding.....

Paola is in Ninas bedroom helping her with her dress. Nina cant believe. It fit perfectly in the store. Paula says she looks good. Bianca asks if she can step in. Nina lets her and asks if her belt is too tight around her waist. Paula asks Bianca if she can believe Nina thinks shes fat. Bianca says she looks fantastic. Bianca says she has a great body and the dress is beautiful. “Thank you” Nina says kissing Biancas cheek. Nina says she is honestly nervous about the wedding. She cant wait to finally do it. But every time she thinks about it she feels something bad will happen. Bianca tells Nina to calm down and relax. “Everything will be okay” she tells her. “Yes” says Nina “Ill do that and think about our trip to NYC” “Yes” Bianca says “Think of that” Bianca says shell leave so Nina can continue having fun. Bianca has a glare on her face. Paula asks if what Nina said upset Bianca. Nina doesn’t know and asked Paula if her dress is zipped all the way.

Yair is back in Ariels workshop but this time with a beeping monitor. Deniz says the wedding is tomorrow he must talk. Yair says he wont say anything. Deniz says what does he think Nina will do when she finds out about everything. Yair says Nina will never find out. “Its impossible for something like this to remain hidden forever” Deniz tells him. She begs him to please understand. Yair doesn’t want her bringing it up again. He is taking his secret to the grave.

Danny follows Flav into the Piamonte living room. She tells him the house is in a big commotion and for a good reason. Ariels daughter is getting married. He can imagine the preparations. Flav says she has a good idea for her wedding. Shed like to have her wedding at the beginning of spring. “The weather is nice there” she says “Whatever you want” Danny says. They kiss and Flav says he always pleases her. He asks her if she knew he was married. His divorce with his ex-wife was contentious and long. And hes a man who doesn’t like to beat around the bush. Flav doesn’t get it. He just wants things to be clear from the beginning so there wont be any surprises. Flav says hes scaring her. Danny kisses her hand and says she has no reason to be scared. If he loves her like she says she does then there wont be a problem..... with signing this. He pulls out a prenuptial agreement.

 

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Bruno is asleep and his phone rings. “Hello?” he answers “My love. Is that the response I deserve after all we’ve been through?” Bianca says. Bruno says he was asleep and was responding nicely. She tells him to calm down and not to suffer. She wanted to ask if he wasn’t gonna sleep tonight at casa Piamonte either. Bruno says its better to stay away. “Better for what?” Bianca asks “to avoid me?” “For gods sake lets not start please” Bruno says. “Tell me something” Bianca says “What have you done all this time? Don’t say plan the wedding because we both know You haven’t done a thing.” Bruno admits he hasn’t done a thing. “Just think right?” Bianca says “Think of how much you hurt the only woman who..” Bruno says hes gonna hang up . Bianca says he must be terribly nervous. “Remembering everything we’ve done there. Right? Arent you scared? Scared that something might happen tomorrow on your wedding day?” “What are you talking about?” Bruno asks “Nothing in particular” replies Bianca. “You know how life is. When you least expect it, it surprises us.” Why are you telling me all this?” Bruno asks “Stop beating around the bush and be direct with me.” Bianca says she has to hang but if his friends are having a bachelor party and he needs a woman to please him on his last night of freedom to call her and shell do him the favor. Bianca hangs up.

Ariel shows up unexpected at Franciscas ranch. Ariel has to ask her something and wants a clear honest and direct response. The kind she always provides. “I will” she says “But youre scaring me. You seem worried.” “What do you think of my relationship with Bianca?” he asks her. “What kind of question is that?” she responds “Beyond all of Willys gossip and the cloud of doubt he created about her and Bruno, I don’t think Bianca Santillana is the woman for you.” Ariel wants her to explain. “Your not happy dear.” she says “I know you gave yourself a second chance with her, conscious of the damage the issue with Bruno caused.” Ariel doesn’t regret that. The information was false he couldn’t end his marriage. “But you know full well your problems with her aren’t new.” Francis tells him “You’ve had doubts and regrets from the beginning unhappy in ways you never thought you would be.” Ariel knows that. “Youre wasting your time alongside Bianca Santillana and you know it. Youre putting off what you know is inevitable. Divorce.” Francis says.

Bianca is in Flavs bedroom. Flav cant believe what Daniel tried to pull. “A prenuptial agreement. Give me a break!” she says. Bianca imagines Flav said no. Flav had to play stupid but she got pissed and felt like strangling him. Bianca asks why Flav is surprised. All Danny wants is to keep Flav from ending up with his fortune. “Why would you say such a thing?” Flav asks “Is there something I should know?” Bianca doesn’t care what she does or doesn’t do with that man. “On top of you insulting me now I cant come to you with my problems.” Says Flav. Bianca says shes the one with problems. She promised to stop the Brina wedding. Flav sushes her. “Tomorrow the cousins get married and I have to fake a smile next to Ariel while the man of my dreams, the man that I love marries another woman.” Flav tells her to stop and get over her obsession with Bruno. She did what she could “And you say it like that?” Bianca asks “Well yes” Flav answers “You have to accept that you lost this time.” Bianca says she hasnt lost yet. Theres still time. Flav says Bruno and Nina are getting married and theyre gonna leave. “Theyre moving away. Accept it. And be thankful youre still Ariel Piamontes wife. With a prosperous future ahead of you.”

 

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Ariel enters Brunos country house. Bruno wasn’t expecting him. Ariel didn’t plan to visit either. But hes here. “Is something wrong?” Bruno asks. “Look me in the eyes and tell me the truth.” Ariel says “That again?” Bruno starts “Look at me and answer.” Ariel commands “Do you love Nina? Is there any reason you shouldn’t marry her?” Bruno says yes of course he loves her and theres no reason. “Very well now listen up” Ariel says. “Youre not my nephew. Youre like a son to me.” Bruno says hes always seen Ariel like a father. “But starting tomorrow youll be my S-I-L. My daughters husband.” Ariel says. Bruno gets a tear “Im warning you. If you hurt Nina in the slightest, I wont be your uncle and ill become your worst enemy. Is that clear?” Bruno nods.

Santi is visiting Yair in Ariels workshop. Santi asks how he is doing. Yair says he is good. Santi is not hes sad. “You should be happy.” Yair says “Your sisters marrying your cousin tomorrow.” Santi cries and says that’s why. Hes going to be alone. “Bianca left. So did Deniz. And youre not getting better.” “You have to be brave like you’ve always been.” Yair says. “Remember you lost your mom when you were very young. And look at you. Alive and kicking and looking ahead.” Santi doesn’t want to lose anyone else. Yair coughs. “You know that’s how life is.” Yair says. “Besides Don Ariel and Bianca will be with you.” Santi wants things back to normal. Like when his father was going to marry Bianca. Yair hugs a crying Santi.

Bianca is in Ariels office with the revolver. She puts it in her purse and Ariel walks in. “Cielo what a surprise. I didn’t think youd be back so soon.” She says. Ariel didn’t either but there was a change of plans. “Are you ok?” Bianca asks “You seem serious.” “We need to talk.” Ariel says. The two sit down. “I just returned from visiting Bruno in his country house. I needed to be honest with him and clear up certain things before the wedding.” “Did you clear up everything you wanted to?” Bianca asks. Ariel says yes but its not just him he needs to be honest with today. But with her. Bianca doesn’t understand. “For days I’ve been thinking about everything we’ve been through. Reflectioning on the problems weve had. The troubles and the mistakes weve made.” Ariel says they cant keep lying to each other. “What do you mean we cant keep lying to each other?” Bianca asks. “You and I don’t have a future together.” Ariel says. He wants a divorce.

“This cant come as a surprise to you.” Ariel says. “You know we’re not well. Lately things have gotten worse.” Bianca says hes right. Ariels not just talking about what Willy made up. Its everthing. “More than mistrust between us it was missing…” Bianca stops him “You don’t need to say another word. Theres no need to justify your decision.” She understands and hes right. She thinks its best if they divorce. Ariel says her mom was right when she said him and Bianca weren’t destined to be together. “Not much sense in looking back. I think we should handle this with maturity. Continue being friends and move on with our lives.” Bianca says. Ariels glad she didn’t take it the wrong way. “In the the idea looks like it made you happy.” “No” Bianca says “On the contrary. Well yes. It’s a feeling of freedom that I was missing. ” Ariel understands. “What do think if we file for divorce after Ninas wedding?” Bianca says its okay. Bianca kisses Ariel (she gets a tear) and thanks him for everything.

 

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Ariel enters his workshop. Ariel asks if something happened to the nurse. Santi asked her to let him take care of Yair. “He was coughing a lot and wanted to rest.” Santi said. Ariel asks how long has Yair been asleep. “1 hour.” Santi says. “That’s too bad.” Ariel says “I wanted to talk to him.” Santi says that will be hard since Yair coughs a lot and can barely talk. “Why wont he get better Daddy?” Santi asks Ariel doesn’t know. Santi doesn’t want him to die. Ariel hugs Santi saying “Me neither. Don’t day that please. Hes not going to die.” Santi says Yair was talking as if he knew he wasn’t gonna get better. Ariel says hell be fine. Santi asks if Ariel will abandon him too. “No. How can you say that? Id never do that. Listen to me. Ill never leave you. You and Nina are everything to me. Your my reason to live. Youll have me until the day I die.” Ariel and Santi hug again.

At Brunos country house, his phone rings again. Its Bianca. Bruno ask what does she want. She says Ariel wanted a divorce. “Are you kidding?” Bruno asks. “He said he talked to you about it that he thought about it and that he wants us to get a divorce.” She tells him. “Why did he say that? Did he just say that out of nowhere?” Bruno asks. “Yes” Bianca says. “It surprised me too. But do you know what this means to us? We can finally live our love without ties without obstacles with freedom.” “Bianca wait” Brunos starts. She knows he is busy with the wedding. Shell take care of everything shell get the plane ticket and make the hotel reservations. “I was thinking about Spain. That’s the place we planned to escape. Remember?” “Bianca listen to me. You have to understand. Im getting married tomorrow.” “You listen to me. Relax. Ill take care of everything.” Bianca says. “Ill see you tonight at 12 at the dock to discuss the final details.” “Bianca listen to me.” “I love you baby. I love you with all my heart. This time we’ll be happy I know.” “Bianca let me talk” “Ill see you at twelve” Bianca kisses the phone and hangs up.

As Deniz serves Ariel tea in the kitchen she says Ariel is acting strange drinking tea in the kitchen. Ariel says he asked Bianca for a divorce. Once Nina gets married theyll start the paperwork. Deniz was surprised. She wasn’t expecting it and thought the couple worked things out with the Willy issue. Ariel says their not getting divorced over that. That made things worse but.. “Don Ariel im sorry.” “That’s not necessary Ill be fine” Ariel says drinking the tea. “Considering the circumstances id like you to stay working in the house. Don’t leave” “But Nina..” “Ninas going to NY and Santi cant stay alone. Please” “Have you ever thought why ive stayed so many years by your side and why I haven’t left?” Deniz asks him. Ariel thinks she loves his kids. “Yes that’s why. Count on me. Ill stay.” “I knew it wouldn’t be hard convincing you.” Ariel says and hugs Nina. Hed like her to stay with Yair tonight. He doesn’t look good. She says she will. “Thanks” Ariel says then leaves.

Bianca enters Flavs bedroom and Pen is there. Bianca asks why they are laughing. Pen says “At the historical event. Our mom is signing a prenup” “Don’t tell me youre going to do it” Bianca says “Stop it already. That papers not that important. Besides ill have Dannys fortune at my disposal. Al though its nit mine. Like you and Ariel. It’s the same.” Flav responds “If you say so mom.” Bianca says. “And why are you so happy? Werent you upset?” Flav asks. “Yes im very happy I have many reasons to be happy.” Bianca answers “Arent you sad Because im leaving? ” Pen asks. Bianca hugs Pen and says “Im sad youre leaving but you know what? If that’s what you want. If that’s what you wish go ahead. Period. Sometimes we have to run away to find happiness.”

 

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That night at Ariels workshop, Deniz asks how Yair feels. “We’re all worried about you. They want to take you to a hospital and I understand. We don’t want anything to happen to you. Im very worried about you. Im Worried about your health. Spiritual and physical.” Yair says his soul will rest when his body will rest. “I don’t understand why your letting yourself die if you know the truth that’s killing you.” Yair says he already made a decision over his life and his truth. Deniz leaves.

Bianca sees Bruno at the dock. “I knew youd come.” She said. Bruno says she didn’t let him talk earlier. “You can tell me whatever you want tonight.” She says. She kisses him. “Bianca. I know you think everything will change when you get divorced.” Bruno says. Bianca smiles and shows him the tickets for tomorrow. They’ll leave first thing in the morning nonstop to Madrid and they’ll stay in a beautiful hotel. Then they’ll go to Barcelona. They’ll be able to start over. They’ll be able to love each other. To walk together holding hands without hiding. “Can you imagine?” Bianca asks starting to cry. Deniz walks in and hides. “Arent you gonna say anything?” Bianca asks. “I cant do this to Nina.” Bruno says getting teary eyed. He cant leave her standing at the alter he cant hurt her. Shed die if she knew Bruno ran away with Bianca. He wouldn’t be able to live with that for the rest of his life. “Id never forgive myself. Please understand” Bruno begs. Bianca must accept their love is forbidden. No matter how much he wants to spend the rest of his life with her he cant. “Yes you can.” “No” “Yes you can. We’ll take that plane early in the morning.” “Youre going to divorce my uncle. Youll start a new life far away from this family. Ill get married and start a new life with Nina that’s whats going to happen. These are the consequences of this love. Of this forbidden love. Scarred by betrayal. That’s the truth.” Bianca says “These are not the consequences of a scarred love as you call it. Youll suffer them for the rest of your damn life. I curse every moment you touched me. I curse having fallen in love like an idiot. And I curse the day I came to this house. And I curse you for being a coward, insignificant, and for having denied me the possibility to love.” Bianca angrily rips the ticket. “Look at me. I curse you.” Bianca leaves. Bruno picks up the pieces of the ticket. And misses one piece.

AND FINALLY THE BIG DAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Workers are preparing the wedding set in the backyard. Salo tells a woman everything is ready. Cele says the bride will be rade at 11:00 am sharp. Bruno will show up at 10:30. “Everything will be perfect today” Salo says.

Nina is in her bedroom looking at herself in the mirror. Paula shows up and tells her to get ready. She is running late. Nina tells her to calm down. “Everything will be fine.” She says “Arent you nervous” Paula asks. “Because I am.” Nina says even though she is anxious she is happy she will spend the rest of her life next to the man she always loved. “And to think you always denied it.” Paula said. “I know” Nina said. But I never thought this would be real. I always thought my destiny would be seeing Bruno on the altar holding hands with another woman. And now im that woman” “That’s in the past.” Paula says “Its time to become Bruno Hurtados beautiful bride.” They hug.

 

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Santi asks Bruno if hes nervous. Bruno says hes very nervous. Santi says when he gets married he wants Bruno with him. “Listen to me.” Bruno says “Ill always be with you.” Flav calls Bruno. Shes worried about Bianca. Shes been locked up in her room all day. Shes crying and wont let Flav in. “Do you know anything? Did you talk to her? ” He didnt. Flav says Bianca is doing bad. She warned the two from the beginning. Bruno asks Flav not to leave her alone. Make sure shes okay. They don’t have to come to the wedding but he doesn’t want Flav to abandon Bianca. “As always I have to clean up your mess.” Flav says. “I must admit though that you did the right thing. Your fate and hers are headed different directions.” “Please keep me informed. I beg you.” Bruno says.

Flav enters Biancas bedroom and calls for her. Bianca shows up behind her. Flav asks where she is going dressed in white. “To Bruno and Ninas wedding.” Answers Bianca. “But baby, Only the bride goes in white.” Flav says. She asks if Bianca has another dress for this occasion. Bianca loves her dress. Nina wont mind. Flav says any bride would get upset if she saw another woman wearing white at her wedding. Its proper etiquette. “Shall we go?” Bianca asks. “So youre not changing?” asks Flav.

Ariel is at Isabels tomb. “Today I need you more than ever. I would’ve given anything for you to hold my hand after I gave away our daughter in marriage.” Ariel leaves a rose in the tomb. Deniz shows up. “Shouldn’t you be at the hotel?” Ariel asks. Before she left she needed to talk to him. She didn’t take this step before not out of apathy but because of lack of proof she didn’t want her assumptions to hurt anyone. And Francis demanded she stay out of it. But she cant keep quiet any longer. “What are u talking about?” Ariel asks. Deniz is sorry to tell Ariel that B&B wanted to flee to Spain. “For gods sake where did you get that information?” he demands. Deniz gives him the missing piece of the ticket. “Run away? This cant be.” He says. “Everything Willy said was true.” Deniz says. “B&B are lovers. If that’s not enough truth I recommend you talk to Yair.” “Yair knows too?” Ariel asks “Yes. After doing so you wont have the slightest doubt. That its all true.”

Violins are playing at the wedding. Santi asks why his sister isn’t here. Bruno says because Ariel hasn’t showed up yet and they cant start without him. Flav complains about the heat. “Were going to melt before this even starts.” “Then groom looks handsome doesn’t he?” Bianca asks. “Oh yes. He looks nice in his tux.” Says Nuria. “Shouldn’t the ceremony be starting?” asks Pen. “Yes were 10 minutes late. All we need is for Nina to get cold feet.” Francis asks Bruno if he heard from his uncle. Bruno doesn’t know. Nina calls him and asks where her dad and Deniz are. Theyre late. Bruno says he has no idea. The guests are getting impatient. Nina asks if anyone heard about her dad. Bruno says Francis called him but hes not answering. “ My dads punctual. Do you think something happened to him?” Nina asks. “I don’t think so.” Bruno answers. “Relax everything will be ok” Nina says she loves him a lot and cant wait for the two to be husband and wife. “Me neither.” Bruno says and hangs up. Bruno looks back and sees Bianca staring at him.

 

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When the Piamonte siblings show up to Ariels mansion they see an ambulance. Cami runs to Ariel. When he asks whats going on, she tells him that Yair coughed up blood the whole night. He almost chocked to death. She thinks he will die. Ariel tells her to calm down. A paramedic shows up with Kat behind him. Yair is on a stretcher. Ariel says to wait but the man says Yair is in bad condition. “Yair” says Ariel “Senor Ariel.” “I only need you to confirm. Just admit what you know. Please Yair. Bruno and Bianca. Is it true? Did you see them? Im begging you. If you wont do it for me. Do it for my daughter. She doesn’t deserve a betrayal like this.” “Sir please. We cant wait any longer.” Says the paramedic “Yair please. Im begging you to tell me the truth. I need to know the truth.” Ariel says “Its true” Yair confirms “Your nephew Bruno and wife Bianca betrayed you.” Deniz starts crying. Kat gets a tear. The look on Ariels face is priceless. Cami and Kat follow the paramedics. Ariel has discovered the truth.

At the backyard, Bruno Santi and the guests are getting impatient. “I think something happened to my dad.” Santi says “Be quiet Santi. Youll bring bad luck. Come here” Bruno says. “Who were you taking to?” Bianca asks Flav “With Katia.” She answers “It cant be. Once again tragedy has befallen us.” “Don’t be so dramatic and talk” Bianca says “Ariel knows “Knows what?” Bianca asks “What do you mean what?” Flav answers “Don’t act dumb Yair told him.” Bianca looks at Bruno. “Bianca” Flav says “Do you know what this means? We have to leave here immediately.” “No” Bianca says “Im not moving from here.” “Don’t you understand what I just told you? Ariel knows everything. Hes pissed and hes on his way.” “Great” Bianca says “Ill wait for him here.” Bianca wraps a white gown around herself and leaves. Pen shows up and asks Flav whats going on. Salo asks Bruno if somethings wrong. “Don Ariel cant show up late to his daughter wedding.” He says. Cele shows up. She got a phone call from Cami and tells Salo and Bruno that Yair was taken to the hospital. Camis riding the ambulance with him. Salo says Yairs time has come. “Oh my god. Did she mention uncle Ariel?” Bruno asks. “Yes” Cele says “Hes on his way here with Deniz. But hes very pissed.”


 

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The wedding music plays. Bruno Salo and Cele look to their right. The guests stand up. Its Bianca in a wedding dress! “Has Bianca gone crazy?” Pen asks. “Please stop her.” Nico demands. “Whats wrong with you?” Flav asks “I wont make a fool of myself.” Pen calls for Bianca. “Why is Bianca walking as if she were the bride?” Santi asks. “This cant be happening.” Bruno says. Bianca walks to the altar. Bruno walks up to her. Bianca: Ready to get married? Bruno: Bianca. Please don’t cause a scene and go back to your seat Bianca: Oh you reject me now? When all you used to do was make promise after promise. False promises. You promised wed be happy. Bruno: Bianca please stop Bianca: Of course. You cant keep your word because your not capable. You betrayed me. You turned your back on love. And now youre marrying Nina out of convenience. And you know what? That hurt me very much. (Francis looks in shock) But here I am for you to make me happy. For us to be happy together okay. (Nina starts walking to the altar shocked at what she sees) Nina: Bruno. (Bianca turns around) Bianca. Whats going on? Bruno: Nina please go back to your room. Bianca: Are you watching? Bruno and I are getting married. (Pen turns to Flav)
 

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Pen: If you wont do anything I will. Flav: Go ahead. (Pen is stopped by Nico) Nico: Honey. (He shakes his head) Bianca: Go on. Faint nena. Cant you see im marrying your fiancé? (Bianca starts laughing) Nina: Bianca why are you saying this? Why are you doing this? Bianca: Because I can dear. Because I can. (Ariel shows up with Deniz) Ariel: BRUNOOOOOO! (Everyone stares in shock and then Bianca pulls out Ariels revolver from her purse and points it at Bruno) Nina: Bruno watch out! (Pen Flav and Nico watch in horror.) Bianca: This farce ends here Bruno (Flav stares in shock. Bianca cocks the revolver) Bruno: Bianca. Please calm down and drop the gun. (Deniz turns to Nina) Deniz: She wont kill Bruno will she? Bianca: Relax honey. (Pen is horrified) Relax. Because ill save you from your uncles punishment. (Ariel cant believe what he sees) Now that he knows the truth. Now that everyone knows that you and I are lovers. (Ariel and Deniz restrain Nina. Flav Nico and Pen cant believe Biancas craziness) Nina: Dad. Tell her to shut up. Please wake me up from this nightmare! Please. (Nina starts crying as Ariel and Deniz hold her) Bianca: You wont need to be a martyr any longer. You wont need to hide your secret and continue hurting your loved ones. (Bruno gets closer) Bruno: Bianca. Im begging you. Put the gun down. Bianca: Death shall be your punishment Bruno. You didn’t want to hurt your loved ones but no. I don’t have the heart to kill you. Ariel: Bianca stop! Im begging you to put the gun down! Don’t make this worse please! (Bianca laughs) Bianca: This is the end Bruno. This love story ends today. (Bruno gets teary eyed. Bianca turns the gun at herself Ariel and Flav watch in horror.)

Bianca fires, ending her life. Bruno grabs her. Flav is shocked. Pen is horrified. Nina faints for real! Flav runs to Bianca and cries over her daughter. “My son.” Ariel says “I thought you were my son.” He starts to cry. Flav sobs harder.

 

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Days later….. Santi is in Yairs room in the hospital explaining the after math of Biancas death. “Its been 20 days since Bianca killed herself in front of all of us and you still haven’t opened your eyes. 20 days that if youd been awake you wouldn’t believe it. My sister Nina didn’t speak or leave her room in 8 days (We see her in the psychiatrist room.) Dad forced her to go to the psychiatrist. Now shes there almost everyday. She says shes still far from overcoming what Bruno did to us. But one day she will. Ms.Flavia Hasnt stopped crying since Bianca died. (We see Kat packing her clothes) Dad knew she was B&Bs accomplice and kicked her out as fast as she could. Then it seems she had problems with the millionaire she was supposed to marry because they ended their engagement. (Danny rips the prenup leaving the “F” shocked) She got real sad when Pen and Nico were moving to L.A. She wanted to go with them but in the end they left without her (Pen and Flav cryhug each other Nico watches.) Guillermo Arredondos divorce made the papers. It cost him half his fortune but the best part is what appeared on the gossip tabloid. Remember? (Sleazy Sylvia is pregnant with Willys child.)” Don Salo Donia Celeste and Cami returned to the house and the sailor, Teres boyfriend is staying in the house. Hes the new chauffeur. But only until you wake up. It seems they’ll get married next month. Before burying her, some tests were done on Bianca. She said she was pregnant but in the end they discovered she wasn’t. I don’t have much to tell you about Bruno. I haven’t seen him since Bianca died.”

Bruno is unshaven,crying at Biancas tomb. Its nighttime and its raining hard “Forgive me. Forgive me. Forgive me. Its me who should be buried here. I know you did this to punish me. You knew my life would be nothing without you. I deserve it. I deserve it. I deserve it. I could’ve taken youre hand when you asked. Im your killer. Im your killer.” A hand touches him. Its Eli (Wait? Does this mean theyre back together?) she hold her umbrella toward Bruno. Together they leave Biancas grave.

“And I don’t know what else to say. Oh yeah. Poor Cami. Shes been here all 20 days caring for you day and night. Hoping you wake up. You know? You should get over my sister. Id like to see you 2 together she really loves you.” Yair wakes up. Santi runs to Cami “Yairs awake. Yairs awake.” “Thank you lord.” Cami says “Did you hear everything I said?” Santi asks “Yes” Yair says “Everything. Cami. I Promise that if god and you give me another chance, Ill fight for you.” Cami kisses his hand.

The Piamonte mansion is being unpacked. Ariel plans to move somewhere else to get over what happened the previous year. The moving van leaves. Ariel wants Deniz to stay with his family. She plans to stay with them. First she gives him the note she wrote proclaiming her love for him. Ariel never thought Deniz would tell him. She says she always felt attracted to him. They almost kiss but Nina and Santi show up. hold hands. They leave to start a new life. As they walk Ariel holds Denizs hand and kisses her. The 4 walk together happy.....

FIN!!!!!!

 

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Ah, NovelaMan....thank you so much for your detailed recap. It's always hard when a novela ends, we don't want to let it go. So I was eager to read your recap and you did a wonderful job!
The impression I got from Elianna at the grave was that Bruno's life was pretty much ruined, and that he would never really love anyone else, but that Elianna would be there for him to lean on. The scene at the grave was so raw and painful.
AdrianaNoel, I hope there are some takers on co-recapping Dama y Obrero or Husband for Hire.
Cheers everyone!
J in Oregon
 

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Holy moly, NovelaMan! Amazing recap, so detailed... must have taken forever to put that together! Thanks so much!

I'm planning on tuning in to Dama y Obrero, I really like Ana, but I'm on the same page as others about Jose Luis--meh. We'll see how long I can stick it out. PP is going to be impossible to measure up to.

I'd be glad to contribute some skeleton recaps... I can't do nearly the detail that Adriana & NovelaMan did (BIG shoes to fill), but could throw in some general recaps. I tend to FF thru scenes/plots that don't interest me, so I may not be able to give the whole story.

I'm moving to Honduras in a few months to do relief work... just quit my 16 year teaching job to do volunteer work! Yikes! Very nerve wracking, but very excited too. Hopefully I'll get to keep up with TNs online (depending on my internet connection) or on Honduran tv (which I may not even have). Nevertheless, no more CCs for me... uh-oh!

BTW, anyone seen the latest ads for William Levy's newest one La Tempestad (on Uni I think)?? Totally make me laugh!! I may have to tune into that one for pure entertainment (WL does NOT rock the long-hair look... bleck). It totally reminds me of his Pepsi commercial, where he is sporting a mustache and "spoofing" the dramaticism of Tns. Hilarious.
 

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I forgot to mention something in the final paragraph. "Apparently Nina has gotten over Bruno because she has a big smile on her face. "
 

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NovelaMan, you hit the Gran Final out the park! So complete, thanks to you I discovered I missed some of what Bianca said at the scene and some of Santi's spiel. It was fast and furious.
Agree shallowgal, it was lame that no one tried to get the gun away. And it hurts to see Ariel start his new life without any punishment. Deniz is too good for him.
AdrianaNoel, thanks to you for explaining more about the Turkish version. Does sound dramatic! And
Neena catatonic sounds about right.
I was extra-curious because on another thread someone was talking about how great Turkish TNs are.
Wow, you guys are good! So many of you knew the ending, thanks for no spoilers. For a while, I thought Ariel might end up a suicide.
Dama y Obrero, sigh, sounds very predictable. But I'll give it a try.
AnotherAmy, I'm impressed! I visited Honduras once and the people were great. No worries, you won't even need the CCs.
Muchisima suerte! a ti y a todos,
Clara
 

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thank you so much NovelaMan for your gran final recap,
I really appreciate all of the time and effort you made,
and thank you for all of your recaps,
they have really added a lot of color to this novela for me.


 

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NovelaMan - thank you again for your wonderful recaps and for your amazing Gran Final! So detailed, I know it must have taken hours to produce. What a wonderful gift you have given us.

Beth
 

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Deb - great recap, as always! Thank you!

So much has been posted, very deservedly, about the Pasion Prohibida Gran Final, but I don't want to overlook the several important events that happened in SPdO.

Balmy, rather blatantly and intently I thought, eavesdropped on Poncia and David's jailhouse conversation. Maybe he hasn't gotten as much information about the lobos from the tigres as I had believed. Or maybe he's simply looking for additional evidence.

I thought Gonzalez's "open door" visiting program was pretty funny even if Balmy did not.

It looks like the jig is up for Anibal. Enlightened self-interest should tell him to beware of gifts from Antonia - and visits from Macario. Anibal is actually safer in jail than at La Dorada.

The writers continue to tease us with "almost" scenes - Ale almost finds out (again) about Gabriela's pregnancy, and Ric and Pati almost make up and make love.

That was an interesting spin Ale put on the union negotiations (wait till the ownership of the mine is determined) - a smoke screen to buy time and get the miners back to work. Ale still can't tell Antonia that he won't do her unethical dirty work with the miners, but he doesn't want to let the miners down either. So he came up with a delaying tactic.

Beth
 

LA PATRONA:

Aníbal is definitely toast. If he had any sense he'd turn state's evidence against Antonia and get a sweet deal. He never killed anyone, so that'd give him a light sentence, but since he's a blubbering idiot right now, he prolly doesn't have enough sense to thing strategically like Guerra.

Alejandro: I'm feeling more sorry for him as the eps go on. It's odd that he's actively doing the right thing-hiding Vero's identity, hiding Chacon, being a good Tigre, but he's so torn emotionally torn about it, or rather torn about who Vero is now, and Vero refuses to fix the conundrum for him. That's what I love about her and Ceci: They love the guys in their lives, but refuse to fix them. David had to deal with his liquor dependence and Vero is getting Ale to deal with his mother issues...

That's why I think he knew Guerra was a prostitute because he seems to understand that Guerra became so tough and unyielding to get out of that life, but then became a sociopath. She keeps on saying 'I'm doing this to protect our wealth.' He seems to be hoping agains hope that poor, dispossessed woman is still there, but coming to the realization that she's gone. Guerra keeps on expecting Ale to understand her because she's protecting their wealth so Ale and David wouldn't ever be reduced to poverty and prostitution like she was. But he did finally tell her he's done with her and will only fix the worker's strike so she doesn't destroy the mine as she did with the Suarez.

I honestly think Ale is going a bit nuts and Vero needs to tell him she's pregnant so he doesn't think all is lostbbecome someone


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La Patrona,

so, J desde NYC ,

do you think that Alejandro's new realization of what his mother is truly like,
is holding him back from being with the younger version, Veronica,

it's not a little known fact,
that Gabriela Suárez,
will be,
La Patrona,

of course we love her, but maybe he is having trouble with this.


 

Dama y Obrero

Anyone interested in watching the new tn? I saw some promos, Ana L. is as pretty as always, but her galan...I don't know...And the story as a whole doesn't do much for me...

Amy, in my opinion, in la Tempestad they managed the impossible: taking the hot out of Levy. He is just awful! The story is interesting enough (a remake of La Tormenta with Natalia Streignard and Christian Meier, which was very good), they changed stuff here and there, but Levy is, oh so ugly, and his screen partner, Ximena Navarette is at her first acting gig - and they gave her a protagonico! So you can imagine she's not that good....

But Mentir para Vivir looks great, even if I only watched 2 episodes (not more, yet, waiting for Univision)
 

New Telemundo TNS

I'm not really interested in any of the new tns. I really am enjoying La Patrona and will miss it terribly when it's over. i like my galans morenazo like JLP, so William Levy is dull to me ugly or no. His hair alone in the new tn freaks me out.

I'll maybe watch Marido en Alquiler since Sonya Smith is a really good tn actor. I don't know if I can handle Juan Soler and his weird tan and perfectly capped teeth, but I'll deal. I've only ever liked two galans ever: Jorge Luis Pila and Fernando Carrillo in Maria Isabel.
 

LA PATRONA

J desde NYC and Deb - you raise interesting questions about Alejandro and his relationships with Antonia and Gabriela. I believe Ale was deeply wounded when he first became aware of his mother's bad acts and that this has affected all of his relationships with women. It's hard to know exactly what triggered his suspicions of Antonia or how young he was when this happened. It could have been when he saw the other men in his mother's bedroom.

On most levels Ale's functioning is adult and mature, and he's an honorable, intelligent, astute businessman. However, when he came back to SPdO, Ale was a confirmed bachelor, apparently not interested in marriage (i.e.; a long term relationship with a woman). In spite of falling in love with Gabriela, he couldn't trust her enough to reject his mother's claims of Gaby's wrongdoings. His marriage to Irene was based on guilt and mistrust, and he used his best friend's wife for sex. And now, he's again stuck between loving and trusting Gabriela and irrationally defending his (admittedly) evil mother.

I'm hoping Alejandro survives this TN to live happily ever after with Gaby, David and the little one, but I think there is the possibility he will become the sacrificial lamb, dying literally or figuratively for his mother's sins.

Beth
 

LA PATRONA:

Co-sign, what you said, Beth. I doubt Alejandro will make it to the tns end. I think he feels too guilty about the murders Guerra has committed, justifying them as being in his and David's name, to not end up dead. The only escape is if Poncia is his mother since Ale still feels sympathy for pre-murderer working girl Guerra to always defend her on some level.

Maybe that's why Vero isn't telling him about her pregnancy. She doesn't want to force his hand to choose her, which she knows he'll do if he knows about the baby, because he always wanted a baby with her, but there'll always be that gulf between them about Guerra even if they are together and he hasn't resolved all those emotional issues about his mother.
 

GENERAL

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Is everyone confused? Good. That's what I was aiming for.
 

so bruno was poor that means because peamontes left and they didnt go with him
 

okay could someone tell me what the hell happens to bruno and bianca do they end up together or what? and like duh deniz and ariel are together but explain B and B
 

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