Tuesday, July 30, 2013
PEAM, Tuesday 7/30/13 (#101): Like Sands Through the Hourglass
Like sands through the hourglass. That's what it was like watching my recorder rescan all of the channels because Comcast, my esteemed and beneficent service provider, chose (in their infinitely mysterious wisdom) to reassign all the channel numbers sometime last night. By the time the rescan was complete AND I was able to find Univision (it's on 15-5 as of today, for the record), we were a good 40 to 45 minutes into the episode and I couldn't get the recorder going until it was just about done. But I'm gonna make the most of what little I saw and take a guess at the rest. The rest of you, please feel free to note what I missed, because I KNOW I missed plenty!
BONUS! See comments below from Tablet Jefa et al to fill in the missing pieces!
In Fernando's office, Xochi and Fernando console one another and bond tearfully over their bully-laden pasts.
The two annoying new secretarias, one of whom is named Lucinda and I don't know about the other one, are gossiping with Jessica. (Thanks to Madelaine for explaining that Jess is defending Xochi against them!) Ugh, do we have to get to know these couple of idiots? Remember when we thought Mari and Sue were nasty, petty Other Reindeer? They look like geniuses next to these two.
Whatever happened with the bank guy at Chatita's earlier, Avon (or Cardenas) has helped Chucho so he doesn't lose his home. Not that we had time to worry. I only caught the tail end of this but I assume he still has to pay it back to Avon and/or the bank. (Or if he already did pay up, maybe this wasn't a money issue so much as his name wasn't on the title? Whatever, it's fixed now.)
Julio is back in the office, at his desk. Cardenas presents him with his corrective action report, demerit, or whatever it is called. Let's call it the Bad Employee No Biscuit Warning. Julio signs it, grudgingly.
Jessica sees this and complains bitterly to Ricardo that Cardenas is sooo unfair. He made her sign a No Biscuit Warning too. Ric disagrees that it's unfair to expect employees to follow the rules and Cardenas is very even-handed in his enforcement.
At Pointy Trees Manor, Eli, Vero, and their lawyers "negotiate." I didn't hear what, if anything, they decided about Valentina's custody; right now they're focused on splitting the loot. Vero is her usual greedy self, thinking she should get pretty much all of everything, and Eli comments on her grasping attitude. He says he's not in love with her any more, woohoo! Cynthia (V's lawyer) and Eli's guy say they'll make a complete inventory of every item in the house, right down to the toothbrushes, and figure out how to divvy it up. ("Circular saw" is my vote.) If all goes well, it will be done in two months. And then there will be the lawyers' fees. Vero says Eli will pay for the whole thing! (Why should Eli pay Vero's lawyer??)
Back at the office, Chucho encourages Julio to get a grip on himself and pull himself up by the bootstraps and buck up and stop crying in his beer and get on with his life.
Alma is updating Rogue on all that happened during his absence from the office. He promises to read her detailed report later. (LOL, right.) Then he suddenly gets nervous and maudlin and makes weird comments about how grateful he is to her and he hope nothing happens to her. Cantú looks worried as Rogue babbles. (By the way, Pancho agreed to reinstate Rogue. No manches.) After Alma leaves, Cantú is like, what was that all about? Rogue is upset about whatever it was that they saw at Uri's suite. Cantú is also nosy about whether or not Rogue has something going on with Vero.
After all that fuss with the divorce lawyers, Eli asks Vero if she can take care of Valentina after school today because he has to do something. Vero is sarcastic but grudgingly agrees to let Minerva watch Vale for a while. (Vero must have some special bitchery planned that she can't reschedule.)
Alma and Chucho compare notes and agree that Rogue's amiability today has been very suspicious. "This is like the calm before the storm," he says. Then he says he has to meet someone (mumble mumble, no captions, thanks again, Comcast!) for lunch and Alma says haha, you don't have to ask my permission! He leaves and she stares blankly into space, er, I mean gazes thoughtfully into the hazy hopeful future.
Malvino and Calavera follow Chucho's taxi (driven by you-know-who, who is happy to get paid for a change). They aren't particularly discreet and don't even wear wigs or Groucho glasses, so Chucho spots them immediately and even points them out to the taxi driver. Chucho chases them on foot and almost catches them (by "almost catches them" I mean "almost touches their car in a disrespectful manner") while they back away and peel out of the parking lot.
Next time: Uri says, "He saw you?! This changes everything!" Today's the day and he's gonna kill Alma! (OR IS HE?)
I see a gun with a laser sight, but Google just told me that you can put laser sights on a paintball gun, so here's hoping he's only planning to ruin her dress.
BONUS! See comments below from Tablet Jefa et al to fill in the missing pieces!
In Fernando's office, Xochi and Fernando console one another and bond tearfully over their bully-laden pasts.
The two annoying new secretarias, one of whom is named Lucinda and I don't know about the other one, are gossiping with Jessica. (Thanks to Madelaine for explaining that Jess is defending Xochi against them!) Ugh, do we have to get to know these couple of idiots? Remember when we thought Mari and Sue were nasty, petty Other Reindeer? They look like geniuses next to these two.
Whatever happened with the bank guy at Chatita's earlier, Avon (or Cardenas) has helped Chucho so he doesn't lose his home. Not that we had time to worry. I only caught the tail end of this but I assume he still has to pay it back to Avon and/or the bank. (Or if he already did pay up, maybe this wasn't a money issue so much as his name wasn't on the title? Whatever, it's fixed now.)
Julio is back in the office, at his desk. Cardenas presents him with his corrective action report, demerit, or whatever it is called. Let's call it the Bad Employee No Biscuit Warning. Julio signs it, grudgingly.
Jessica sees this and complains bitterly to Ricardo that Cardenas is sooo unfair. He made her sign a No Biscuit Warning too. Ric disagrees that it's unfair to expect employees to follow the rules and Cardenas is very even-handed in his enforcement.
At Pointy Trees Manor, Eli, Vero, and their lawyers "negotiate." I didn't hear what, if anything, they decided about Valentina's custody; right now they're focused on splitting the loot. Vero is her usual greedy self, thinking she should get pretty much all of everything, and Eli comments on her grasping attitude. He says he's not in love with her any more, woohoo! Cynthia (V's lawyer) and Eli's guy say they'll make a complete inventory of every item in the house, right down to the toothbrushes, and figure out how to divvy it up. ("Circular saw" is my vote.) If all goes well, it will be done in two months. And then there will be the lawyers' fees. Vero says Eli will pay for the whole thing! (Why should Eli pay Vero's lawyer??)
Back at the office, Chucho encourages Julio to get a grip on himself and pull himself up by the bootstraps and buck up and stop crying in his beer and get on with his life.
Alma is updating Rogue on all that happened during his absence from the office. He promises to read her detailed report later. (LOL, right.) Then he suddenly gets nervous and maudlin and makes weird comments about how grateful he is to her and he hope nothing happens to her. Cantú looks worried as Rogue babbles. (By the way, Pancho agreed to reinstate Rogue. No manches.) After Alma leaves, Cantú is like, what was that all about? Rogue is upset about whatever it was that they saw at Uri's suite. Cantú is also nosy about whether or not Rogue has something going on with Vero.
After all that fuss with the divorce lawyers, Eli asks Vero if she can take care of Valentina after school today because he has to do something. Vero is sarcastic but grudgingly agrees to let Minerva watch Vale for a while. (Vero must have some special bitchery planned that she can't reschedule.)
Alma and Chucho compare notes and agree that Rogue's amiability today has been very suspicious. "This is like the calm before the storm," he says. Then he says he has to meet someone (mumble mumble, no captions, thanks again, Comcast!) for lunch and Alma says haha, you don't have to ask my permission! He leaves and she stares blankly into space, er, I mean gazes thoughtfully into the hazy hopeful future.
Malvino and Calavera follow Chucho's taxi (driven by you-know-who, who is happy to get paid for a change). They aren't particularly discreet and don't even wear wigs or Groucho glasses, so Chucho spots them immediately and even points them out to the taxi driver. Chucho chases them on foot and almost catches them (by "almost catches them" I mean "almost touches their car in a disrespectful manner") while they back away and peel out of the parking lot.
Next time: Uri says, "He saw you?! This changes everything!" Today's the day and he's gonna kill Alma! (OR IS HE?)
I see a gun with a laser sight, but Google just told me that you can put laser sights on a paintball gun, so here's hoping he's only planning to ruin her dress.
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Comcast's wisdom is indeed mysterious. They are planning a big change next month that will force many of the people in my city to either upgrade ($$$$) or find another provider. (Or stop watching so much TV, hahahaha, but you know what, I'm thinking about it.) They sure picked a weird time to piss us off.
And NEXT Tuesday I'm spending the day at Six Flags, so I'll probably be doing that recap in Spin-O-Vision. Wheeee!
And NEXT Tuesday I'm spending the day at Six Flags, so I'll probably be doing that recap in Spin-O-Vision. Wheeee!
If you keep your computer service, you can watch Univision live on tv-por internet.com Sometimes it streams Texas stations, tonight it was out of Miami, last week New Jersey. Just be careful about accidentally downloading something off the sides.
Permalink posted by 
: Tuesday, July 30, 2013 at 11:10:00 PM EDT
: Tuesday, July 30, 2013 at 11:10:00 PM EDT
Wow, Julie, things like that always happen to me. You did a wonderful job nevertheless!! God bless Comcast. You didn't miss much,it was a silly episode and I kept on nodding off. The banker was going to work out a deal with Jesus, the bank would rather arrange for payments for the apartment than to foreclose and get nothing. I was still disappointed that it hadn't been paid for before. What was Jesus thinking?? A little strange having Jesus live there rent free. Panfilo bought over flowers to Chatita to make amends with her.
Paty was in Alma's office trying to be humble and beg for forgiveness yet again. I still don't believe that lying scank because if she was so forthright she would share with Alma that she is trying to rope Rogelio by getting pregnant.
The lawyers for Elias and Vero were once married to each other and it seemed as if they were going to rekindle the romance in front of Vero and Elias. They also mentioned that sometimes exes get back together. It went completely over Vero's head. She was her usual cold, bitchy self.
Xochy told Jessica that her friendship to Jessica was important to her and Jessica thinks that she is getting over Fern. (I dozed off) If I missed anything, someone please fill in.
Paty was in Alma's office trying to be humble and beg for forgiveness yet again. I still don't believe that lying scank because if she was so forthright she would share with Alma that she is trying to rope Rogelio by getting pregnant.
The lawyers for Elias and Vero were once married to each other and it seemed as if they were going to rekindle the romance in front of Vero and Elias. They also mentioned that sometimes exes get back together. It went completely over Vero's head. She was her usual cold, bitchy self.
Xochy told Jessica that her friendship to Jessica was important to her and Jessica thinks that she is getting over Fern. (I dozed off) If I missed anything, someone please fill in.
Cool Julie. Nothing worse than paint ball on that gorgeous blue dress. Alma is too important to get off'd. Yuri es stupido! (In his own language). Gertie
Permalink posted by : Wednesday, July 31, 2013 at 12:25:00 AM EDT
: Wednesday, July 31, 2013 at 12:25:00 AM EDT
Julie:
Between you and TJ you didn't miss a thing. No worries!
I wonder what it is that Yuri has and showed to Rogue and Cantu? I thought I heard Rogue say he didn't want Alma hurt? I really hope it is a paint gun and not a rifle.
Oh, there was a bit where Ferny was talking to Alejandra, the hooker with the heart of gold, about Rogue and his mis planes. She didn't look happy. I wonder if she will spill to Rogue what Ferny told her.
I liked that little talk that Ferny and Xochi had. They ARE like two lost souls that found each other, her Mama, his brother, both terrible, but they found each other Ferny and Xochi and I loved that hug they had. It was very sweet.
I too think that Jess is finally over Ferny and I liked how she defended Xochi against the two chisme sisters!
I am glad that this apt. problem has been fixed. I too thought Chucho had made payments on it a while back, but maybe just the electric and the gas? Now he will have his mortgage payment. I really liked how he worked it out with the bank guy. He was so terrified of Chatita, lol.
Can someone tell me who that picture that Chatita talks to all the time? It looks like a little boy? Was that her little boy that died? I wish they would do more of her back story.
Thanks for this great recap, despite the technical difficulties Julie : )
Between you and TJ you didn't miss a thing. No worries!
I wonder what it is that Yuri has and showed to Rogue and Cantu? I thought I heard Rogue say he didn't want Alma hurt? I really hope it is a paint gun and not a rifle.
Oh, there was a bit where Ferny was talking to Alejandra, the hooker with the heart of gold, about Rogue and his mis planes. She didn't look happy. I wonder if she will spill to Rogue what Ferny told her.
I liked that little talk that Ferny and Xochi had. They ARE like two lost souls that found each other, her Mama, his brother, both terrible, but they found each other Ferny and Xochi and I loved that hug they had. It was very sweet.
I too think that Jess is finally over Ferny and I liked how she defended Xochi against the two chisme sisters!
I am glad that this apt. problem has been fixed. I too thought Chucho had made payments on it a while back, but maybe just the electric and the gas? Now he will have his mortgage payment. I really liked how he worked it out with the bank guy. He was so terrified of Chatita, lol.
Can someone tell me who that picture that Chatita talks to all the time? It looks like a little boy? Was that her little boy that died? I wish they would do more of her back story.
Thanks for this great recap, despite the technical difficulties Julie : )
Julie, thanks for the great recap and "bad employee no biscuit. " Very funny. Cable tv these days not so funny.
It was cute when Jesus was telling Chatita that their problem was that they just hadn't had any time for mother son talk lately and then she blessed him before he left.
Looks like obnoxious Yuri strikes tomorrow. On we go!
Jarifa
It was cute when Jesus was telling Chatita that their problem was that they just hadn't had any time for mother son talk lately and then she blessed him before he left.
Looks like obnoxious Yuri strikes tomorrow. On we go!
Jarifa
Permalink posted by : Wednesday, July 31, 2013 at 12:47:00 AM EDT
: Wednesday, July 31, 2013 at 12:47:00 AM EDT
Chatita calls the little boy in the picture on her wall, Tomasito. He is some sort of protective saint that watches over people to protect them and keep them safe.
Julie, it's amazing how you really didn't miss much even though you dropped into the 45-minute mark. TJ very nicely and thoroughly filled in the blanks.
I liked the scene with the two lawyers getting cozy. And I really liked it when Lawyer Cynthia asked Vero "why are you being so aggressive?" Yeah, why you beeeyatch? I wish Elias would stop caving to her every demand.
Stoopid Comcast. Nevertheless Julie, you sure made the most out of the episode parts you DID get to see. So thank you! And thanks TJ for jumping in with the earlier details.
I liked the scene with the two lawyers getting cozy. And I really liked it when Lawyer Cynthia asked Vero "why are you being so aggressive?" Yeah, why you beeeyatch? I wish Elias would stop caving to her every demand.
Stoopid Comcast. Nevertheless Julie, you sure made the most out of the episode parts you DID get to see. So thank you! And thanks TJ for jumping in with the earlier details.
Ah Julie, only you could write a sparkling witty recap with only 15 minutes of screen time (and come to think of it, probably half of THAT was advertising).
"Bad employee, no biscuit warning." Great.
"(circular saw is my vote)" also great.
"special bitchery planned that she can't reschedule." Pure genius.
Actually I'd advise taking a circular saw to Vero. For some reason, she angers me even more than Paty. Her narcissism and sense of entitlement is something we all run into in our real lives (don't we?...is it just me?) whereas crazy kooky Pati still seems like more of a comic figure. Vero, in my experience, is all too real so she really bugs me.
Well, enough personal confessions. Thanks for spinning gold out of some very scanty dross this time, Julie.
"Bad employee, no biscuit warning." Great.
"(circular saw is my vote)" also great.
"special bitchery planned that she can't reschedule." Pure genius.
Actually I'd advise taking a circular saw to Vero. For some reason, she angers me even more than Paty. Her narcissism and sense of entitlement is something we all run into in our real lives (don't we?...is it just me?) whereas crazy kooky Pati still seems like more of a comic figure. Vero, in my experience, is all too real so she really bugs me.
Well, enough personal confessions. Thanks for spinning gold out of some very scanty dross this time, Julie.
Tune IN. Ugh. And my curso disappeared halfway through that sentence.
Anyway, thanks, Julie & TJ, for hammering out the recap! I think you got pretty much everything. I was confused about Alma saying she had "already considered" Xochi for Don Gil's position, and Xochi going all deelyboppers -- does "considered" mean something different in Spanish?
Anyway, thanks, Julie & TJ, for hammering out the recap! I think you got pretty much everything. I was confused about Alma saying she had "already considered" Xochi for Don Gil's position, and Xochi going all deelyboppers -- does "considered" mean something different in Spanish?
Thanks, TJ! You are a life saver.
And thanks Madelaine for the additional details, especially that Jess was defending Xochi to the chisme twins. I didn't get that. (I was still fiddling with the recorder during that scene.) I will fix that in the recap.
The picture Chatita talks to sometimes (part of her little shrine) is St. Thomas. I'm not sure which St. Thomas.
Judy, I know what you mean about being more bothered by Vero than by Paty. In addition to the reasons you give (like Vero being more like a real person and Paty more of a caricature), there's also the fact that Vero has a child. Granted, Paty is also hoping to have a child - but maybe that will change her for the better. (Obviously it didn't do Vero any good!)
Blue, that's an interesting question about "already considered." I guess Xochi took it (and I would also take it) to mean "you're among the people who came to mind," which is very flattering. However, because it's past tense, it MIGHT imply "already considered and rejected." I don't think that's what Alma meant, but if I were Xochi I think I'd want to clarify that before going all deelyboppers.
Daniela, thanks for the tip about tv-porinternet.com.
And thanks Madelaine for the additional details, especially that Jess was defending Xochi to the chisme twins. I didn't get that. (I was still fiddling with the recorder during that scene.) I will fix that in the recap.
The picture Chatita talks to sometimes (part of her little shrine) is St. Thomas. I'm not sure which St. Thomas.
Judy, I know what you mean about being more bothered by Vero than by Paty. In addition to the reasons you give (like Vero being more like a real person and Paty more of a caricature), there's also the fact that Vero has a child. Granted, Paty is also hoping to have a child - but maybe that will change her for the better. (Obviously it didn't do Vero any good!)
Blue, that's an interesting question about "already considered." I guess Xochi took it (and I would also take it) to mean "you're among the people who came to mind," which is very flattering. However, because it's past tense, it MIGHT imply "already considered and rejected." I don't think that's what Alma meant, but if I were Xochi I think I'd want to clarify that before going all deelyboppers.
Daniela, thanks for the tip about tv-porinternet.com.
Julie and Fishknits:
Thanks so much about St Thomas. I have never seen a picture of him like that. It looked like a small boy. It was interesting.
Thanks so much about St Thomas. I have never seen a picture of him like that. It looked like a small boy. It was interesting.
Xochi being over the top that Alma had already thought of her for the job fits with her thrill that Fer would even think about forgiving her for deceiving him. She is just not accustomed to any kind of positive feedback.
Julie, yep, like the others noted, you pretty well nailed it even with all your issues. Sorry about your cable issues :(
I'm right there at the "Slap Vero Silly" table. She's unbearable to watch. I also hate the way Elias caves, but he loves Val so much, he's willing to do anything and Her Scuminess is taking that to the farm on him. May she rot in...well, you know. At this stage, I can see no "redemption" for her as she seems to be getting worse and worse. Val needs to be removed from her NOW!
If the lawyers ( weren't they cute) were worth their salt, they would point out to her that this is a mutual divorce. She fell in lurrvvvv with someone else before Elias fell out with her, so thinking she gets money, house, etc. from the other party seems rather ludicrous. Give her the stupid house, then tell her to get a job so she can pay for the up keep. Boy, that would be something to watch.
Since I'm a FerChi fan, i loved, loved that scene in the office as they bonded over their issues. That hug was a freeze frame moment ( and she's such a little thing). Saw pictures of the actress in an article about her wedding, and she is such a knockout.Just wish they would let the character take on more of her natural look ( the Natasha version). But I think they want us to see Ferny falling for Xochi as she is now.
You know, if the bad guys in this thing keep relying on those two bumblers to do the work for them, we can pretty well be assured nothing will ever go right. The size of that case last night and Rog's reaction--what is Yuri using, a bazooka? Need to end that plot point--getting stupid and dragging out. Move on.
Daisynjay
I'm right there at the "Slap Vero Silly" table. She's unbearable to watch. I also hate the way Elias caves, but he loves Val so much, he's willing to do anything and Her Scuminess is taking that to the farm on him. May she rot in...well, you know. At this stage, I can see no "redemption" for her as she seems to be getting worse and worse. Val needs to be removed from her NOW!
If the lawyers ( weren't they cute) were worth their salt, they would point out to her that this is a mutual divorce. She fell in lurrvvvv with someone else before Elias fell out with her, so thinking she gets money, house, etc. from the other party seems rather ludicrous. Give her the stupid house, then tell her to get a job so she can pay for the up keep. Boy, that would be something to watch.
Since I'm a FerChi fan, i loved, loved that scene in the office as they bonded over their issues. That hug was a freeze frame moment ( and she's such a little thing). Saw pictures of the actress in an article about her wedding, and she is such a knockout.Just wish they would let the character take on more of her natural look ( the Natasha version). But I think they want us to see Ferny falling for Xochi as she is now.
You know, if the bad guys in this thing keep relying on those two bumblers to do the work for them, we can pretty well be assured nothing will ever go right. The size of that case last night and Rog's reaction--what is Yuri using, a bazooka? Need to end that plot point--getting stupid and dragging out. Move on.
Daisynjay
Permalink posted by : Wednesday, July 31, 2013 at 12:41:00 PM EDT
: Wednesday, July 31, 2013 at 12:41:00 PM EDT
Deelyboppers?! Blue, I haven't heard that for 50 years!
I was hoping Uri had a trombone in that case...
Thanks, Julie and all those who had your back. Our cable company does weird things but yours wins the prize.
I was hoping Uri had a trombone in that case...
Thanks, Julie and all those who had your back. Our cable company does weird things but yours wins the prize.
It's not the first time they moved the channels around on me, but it's the first time it's happened to me on a recap night! Argh!!
I'm not so sure about St. Thomas now. I found three well-known St. Thomases (More, Aquinas, and the Apostle) but no pics of a child. Either this is a lesser-known St. Thomas, or that picture is of her son or some other boy and she refers to him as her little saint??
St. Thomas More is the patron saint of adopted children, though, which sort of fits in with Chatita's motherly habit of taking in strays.
I'm not so sure about St. Thomas now. I found three well-known St. Thomases (More, Aquinas, and the Apostle) but no pics of a child. Either this is a lesser-known St. Thomas, or that picture is of her son or some other boy and she refers to him as her little saint??
St. Thomas More is the patron saint of adopted children, though, which sort of fits in with Chatita's motherly habit of taking in strays.
But Daisy, I need GUN FIRED for Bingo! I'm hoping Paty tries a fake pregnancy, too...and I certainly wouldn't mind if Vero took a header down some stairs.
Julie thanks for the recap in spite of Comcrap's foolishness. I recently moved and left them behind thank goodness.
JudyB & Daisynjay - ITA about Vero. It's painful to watch Eli cave when she is the one who initiated the divorce; she should be paying for it or at least her lawyer. I do think her semblance to reality makes her character so reprehensible.
JudyB & Daisynjay - ITA about Vero. It's painful to watch Eli cave when she is the one who initiated the divorce; she should be paying for it or at least her lawyer. I do think her semblance to reality makes her character so reprehensible.
FWIW, I don't think Eli actually agreed to pay Vero's lawyer, and of course he would have to have rocks in his head to do so. In fact, Vero has rocks in her head for even suggesting it. There's an obvious conflict of interest if your divorce lawyer is being funded by your ex!
Say... wasn't it Martha who introduced Vero to Cynthia? I wonder if that will become relevant.
And why isn't there a major manhunt out for Martha?? Did I miss something?
Say... wasn't it Martha who introduced Vero to Cynthia? I wonder if that will become relevant.
And why isn't there a major manhunt out for Martha?? Did I miss something?
Oh, right, there was something I wanted to mention -- when Vero asked where the old lawyer was, her new lawyer said, "She got a job on a telenovela! She always wanted to be an actress!" That cracked me up.
Well, as far as we know, Vero has no money and has very expensive tastes (like a full-time nanny, gorgeous clothes and prime organic food). If she paid the lawyer it would be out of the alimony Elias was paying her, or she would grift it out of Valentina's child support payments if he's not paying alimony (and why should he?...but why should he pay for the house either?) Since he's the legal father and if custody laws are anything like those in the States he should be provided at least 50% custody. Arrrgh. What a mess. I vote for a fatal fall down the staircase, if only so Blue Lass can shout Bingo!
Interesting how a particular character can trigger all kinds of over-the-top emotional reactions. It's just a TN, it's just a TN!
Interesting how a particular character can trigger all kinds of over-the-top emotional reactions. It's just a TN, it's just a TN!
Curses on those Comcastards. Although, you didn't miss much. I laughed when Chucho said this was the calm before La Tempestad. Indeed! It was kind of boring, even, and on right before La Tempestad!
If Vero and Elias were smart, which they are not, they would both get new lawyers. I don't think those exes and their rediscovered luuuuv are going to be working in the interests of their clients at all! And I'm disappointed that Eli caved on the house without demanding sole custody of Val in return. Asking to be able to see her whenever he wants? Not good enough! That still gives Vero way too much leeway.
If Elias ends up with nothing, is he going to have to move in with Chatita again, or into the apartment he bought for Panfilo and Mari?
If Vero and Elias were smart, which they are not, they would both get new lawyers. I don't think those exes and their rediscovered luuuuv are going to be working in the interests of their clients at all! And I'm disappointed that Eli caved on the house without demanding sole custody of Val in return. Asking to be able to see her whenever he wants? Not good enough! That still gives Vero way too much leeway.
If Elias ends up with nothing, is he going to have to move in with Chatita again, or into the apartment he bought for Panfilo and Mari?
I caught that too, Blue, and we all noticed how the actress who formerly played the lawyer was over-emoting. Maybe she got fired.
JudyB:
I hope she didn't get fired! The former lawyer that is. She was the adorable Adoracion on UFCS.
I hope she didn't get fired! The former lawyer that is. She was the adorable Adoracion on UFCS.
Oh, is Cynthia not Vero's original lawyer? I didn't even notice! Funny, she's just as chummy with Eli's guy as the original lawyer was!
I wonder if that means that Cynthia is NOT friends with Martha.
If that's Helena Guerrero, IMDB says the actress went to work on Libre Para Amarte, so she's probably doing okay.
I had the same thought about Vero recouping the lawyer fees through a higher alimony payment, but the fact is, if Eli is paying her lawyer, then the lawyer has little reason to negotiate a good deal for Vero. Which suits me fine. Just seems kind of fluffy-headed on Vero's part to suggest it.
La Tempestad! That joke flew right over my head last night! LOL!!
I had another random unrelated thought. I assume Delia knows that Yuri and Rogue both have the same lawyer. Did it ever occur to Yuri, Rogue, or Cantu for that matter that this sort of ties all their fates together?
If both R and Y are exonerated, they can claim that having the same lawyer was just a coincidence and they didn't even know one another until after they were accused; but if any evidence is found against one of them, it will be harder for the other to wiggle out of it. I think.
I wonder if that means that Cynthia is NOT friends with Martha.
If that's Helena Guerrero, IMDB says the actress went to work on Libre Para Amarte, so she's probably doing okay.
I had the same thought about Vero recouping the lawyer fees through a higher alimony payment, but the fact is, if Eli is paying her lawyer, then the lawyer has little reason to negotiate a good deal for Vero. Which suits me fine. Just seems kind of fluffy-headed on Vero's part to suggest it.
La Tempestad! That joke flew right over my head last night! LOL!!
I had another random unrelated thought. I assume Delia knows that Yuri and Rogue both have the same lawyer. Did it ever occur to Yuri, Rogue, or Cantu for that matter that this sort of ties all their fates together?
If both R and Y are exonerated, they can claim that having the same lawyer was just a coincidence and they didn't even know one another until after they were accused; but if any evidence is found against one of them, it will be harder for the other to wiggle out of it. I think.
So after, what, a hundred episodes, I'm swimming up from the Lurker's Cenote to say howdy as much as anything...
Julie, great recap and, ya know, I've never heard a good word said about Comcast anywhere. Nothing like a monopoly, eh? And thanks to TJ for filling in. You both did a great job of keeping it brief and straightforward.
Re Vero and Elias, I've heard from guys who've been through it that in some jurisdictions the "economically dominant" partner, in other words the one who has a job, has to pay both lawyers and almost always gets hit hard on "support" both for the ex and any kids. Vero reminds of the mother and daughter parasites on Refugio.
Emilia and I noticed that Elias's lawyer's hair seems to get more Grecian Formula'd every time he shows up.
Chatita reminds me quite a bit of the lady who managed one of my apartments in college. She'd feed me dinner from time to time and I'd take her to the grocery. She was real old back then, like 65, and I'm sure she's gone on to her reward by now.
Isn't the photo Chatita talks to her deceased son? That was the impression I had, though it's like the Santo Nino de Atocha of Juan Querendon or La Virgencita in most of the others.
Seems to me that Cardenas is the only grown up employed by Avon. I have to wonder if the real Avon reviewed any of the scripts before granting permission to use the name.
Enough drivel. Howdy to all and thanks again to Julie and TJ.
Julie, great recap and, ya know, I've never heard a good word said about Comcast anywhere. Nothing like a monopoly, eh? And thanks to TJ for filling in. You both did a great job of keeping it brief and straightforward.
Re Vero and Elias, I've heard from guys who've been through it that in some jurisdictions the "economically dominant" partner, in other words the one who has a job, has to pay both lawyers and almost always gets hit hard on "support" both for the ex and any kids. Vero reminds of the mother and daughter parasites on Refugio.
Emilia and I noticed that Elias's lawyer's hair seems to get more Grecian Formula'd every time he shows up.
Chatita reminds me quite a bit of the lady who managed one of my apartments in college. She'd feed me dinner from time to time and I'd take her to the grocery. She was real old back then, like 65, and I'm sure she's gone on to her reward by now.
Isn't the photo Chatita talks to her deceased son? That was the impression I had, though it's like the Santo Nino de Atocha of Juan Querendon or La Virgencita in most of the others.
Seems to me that Cardenas is the only grown up employed by Avon. I have to wonder if the real Avon reviewed any of the scripts before granting permission to use the name.
Enough drivel. Howdy to all and thanks again to Julie and TJ.
Hey Mike, great to hear from you. I kinda thought the picture was Chatita's son too. But my stupidly old and tiny TV is too small to catch that sort of detail so I will have to rely on you guys to figure it out.
Blue, surely we will get a gun fired in the next 100+ episodes, right? We've just got to! Maybe Uri will shoot himself in the foot or something.
Blue, surely we will get a gun fired in the next 100+ episodes, right? We've just got to! Maybe Uri will shoot himself in the foot or something.
Forgot to say thanks TJ for adding the additional recap info!
Blue Lass, I hear you. I say we expedite getting you that Bingo win.Think it's safe to assume Patimelt may be faking a pregnancy soon ( although it may turn into a real one which could be another Bingo square--unwanted pregnancy by girlfriend), Rog has a decent set of stairs, well actually about the only decent set, so we need Vero and Pati to get into one of their pushing matches and Vero caj take the tumble ( we almost had that once, I say stop teasing and just do it.)
As for the gun. I'm hoping that ISN'T a bazooka in that case. Maybe the kids would get water pistols...would that count?
The little boy in the picture: There is the one picture of Chatita's son that I think we saw early on, but he was older in that shot. Maybe this is a younger version of him? Have to say, she seems much better in remembering names and people than she use to be. I still lean to her memory loss being more of a reaction to something sad or frightening vs. alzheimer's or dementia. When she got lost, she really seemed to panic, and that could be a reaction to something similiar that had happened before that she blocked out. Wish we would get more history on some of these characters.
Julie, on Marta. Out of sight, out of mind. Face it, did anyone ever follow up with having Val see someone to help her thru that trauma? They are right back to bouncing her around house holds and sitters while they do their thing. These adults need a good shaking sometimes.
Daisynjay
Blue Lass, I hear you. I say we expedite getting you that Bingo win.Think it's safe to assume Patimelt may be faking a pregnancy soon ( although it may turn into a real one which could be another Bingo square--unwanted pregnancy by girlfriend), Rog has a decent set of stairs, well actually about the only decent set, so we need Vero and Pati to get into one of their pushing matches and Vero caj take the tumble ( we almost had that once, I say stop teasing and just do it.)
As for the gun. I'm hoping that ISN'T a bazooka in that case. Maybe the kids would get water pistols...would that count?
The little boy in the picture: There is the one picture of Chatita's son that I think we saw early on, but he was older in that shot. Maybe this is a younger version of him? Have to say, she seems much better in remembering names and people than she use to be. I still lean to her memory loss being more of a reaction to something sad or frightening vs. alzheimer's or dementia. When she got lost, she really seemed to panic, and that could be a reaction to something similiar that had happened before that she blocked out. Wish we would get more history on some of these characters.
Julie, on Marta. Out of sight, out of mind. Face it, did anyone ever follow up with having Val see someone to help her thru that trauma? They are right back to bouncing her around house holds and sitters while they do their thing. These adults need a good shaking sometimes.
Daisynjay
Permalink posted by : Wednesday, July 31, 2013 at 3:08:00 PM EDT
: Wednesday, July 31, 2013 at 3:08:00 PM EDT
Re: Marta, it's probably like Chucho's house problem. That loose end was flying around for weeks (months?) before they picked up the storyline again, confusing all of us. I wouldn't be surprised if we never hear from Marta again, nor would I be surprised if she is resurrected some time in the future.
Vero's logic about getting the house because Val "lives there" is skewed. Val much prefers to live with Papa Jesus.
Vero's logic about getting the house because Val "lives there" is skewed. Val much prefers to live with Papa Jesus.
I know neither Chucho nor Eli can supervise Val all the time when she isn't in school because they both have to work, and Vero is toxic and really should be working instead of exposing Val to her venom, but I wish they would find a more stable solution for that poor little girl. My vote is that she live with Chucho, that with a promotion or maybe a move to Orion he can afford a dedicated nanny with some ninja skills to take care of her while he's at work, and that he and Eli trade off time with her in evenings and on weekends but that she not have to keep moving around.
Thanks Julie and TJ for the great recap.
Julie, loved:
Pointy Trees Manor.
“I see a gun with a laser sight, but Google just told me that you can put laser sights on a paintball gun, so here's hoping he's only planning to ruin her dress.”
“. . .doing that recap in Spin-O-Vision. Wheeee!”
From yesterday’s comments: Sylvia, I just assumed Xochi didn’t have a degree. I couldn’t see her managing the college experience with her extreme shyness. I thought she just went to secretarial school—but I could be wrong.
I notice that when Jesus needs someone to take care of Vale he never says he’ll ask Vero, it’s always Elias.
I still say that Elias isn’t necessarily the legal father because Jesus never gave up parental rights. Could be different in Mexico.
Mike: I thought that was a pic of her son, too.
I think moving Vale around was Vero’s fault. Sometimes she seems like she really loves Vale and she’ll be a good mother and then she’ll turn around and be a real selfish witch (with a capital B).
Had Time Warner cable for a long time. Worst customer service ever—well, except for Chase Bank. I switched to FiOS.
Nanette
Julie, loved:
Pointy Trees Manor.
“I see a gun with a laser sight, but Google just told me that you can put laser sights on a paintball gun, so here's hoping he's only planning to ruin her dress.”
“. . .doing that recap in Spin-O-Vision. Wheeee!”
From yesterday’s comments: Sylvia, I just assumed Xochi didn’t have a degree. I couldn’t see her managing the college experience with her extreme shyness. I thought she just went to secretarial school—but I could be wrong.
I notice that when Jesus needs someone to take care of Vale he never says he’ll ask Vero, it’s always Elias.
I still say that Elias isn’t necessarily the legal father because Jesus never gave up parental rights. Could be different in Mexico.
Mike: I thought that was a pic of her son, too.
I think moving Vale around was Vero’s fault. Sometimes she seems like she really loves Vale and she’ll be a good mother and then she’ll turn around and be a real selfish witch (with a capital B).
Had Time Warner cable for a long time. Worst customer service ever—well, except for Chase Bank. I switched to FiOS.
Nanette
Permalink posted by : Wednesday, July 31, 2013 at 4:07:00 PM EDT
: Wednesday, July 31, 2013 at 4:07:00 PM EDT
Nanette- You are right that Xochi went to secretarial school. Way in the beginning it was mentioned that she didn't go further in education because mama wasn't supportive of that. She just wanted Xochi to get working already, so that she could support her. Meanwhile, Jesus has his Master's degree.
But some consideration should be given to her time at Avon and her demonstrated skill.
But some consideration should be given to her time at Avon and her demonstrated skill.
Nanette, good point about Xochi's shyness. Plus, it's hard to imagine Barb giving her daughter that much time to herself for school and study. I honestly don't recall hearing about Xochi's background.
Ah, just saw Vivi's comment. Secretarial school it was then. Not even close to a Master's degree.
Ah, just saw Vivi's comment. Secretarial school it was then. Not even close to a Master's degree.
Still trying to catch up on 4 tns for 2 weeks. Thank goodness this is the tn where the more that happens, the more it stays the same. I'm not even going to go back and watch the missed episodes. So, I have to know, did we ever get a real love scene between Chucho and Alma? I only saw them in bathrobes after one of their little together sessions recently.
It drove me crazy for two hot NY minutes to recall where Veronica's lawyer had been in before. She's none other than Arely, Spare Girl from CME. Who knew she could be funny, despite the wig.
It drove me crazy for two hot NY minutes to recall where Veronica's lawyer had been in before. She's none other than Arely, Spare Girl from CME. Who knew she could be funny, despite the wig.
Thank you, Anita! I couldn't remember where I'd seen the lawyer before. In this role she comes off like a sassy dame in an olde-tymey jazz age gangster movie or something.
Anita, if you're asking did they ever get it on, the answer is yes. It finally happened in Cancun last week.
But if you're asking if there was anything worth seeing, the answer is no. The scene was very brief. Either they edited it down to nothing for US broadcast or there was never much to it in the first place. (Or maybe we're to assume that Chucho and Alma are very efficient!)
Apparently it was satisfying enough for Chucho and Alma, but not for the viewers!
But if you're asking if there was anything worth seeing, the answer is no. The scene was very brief. Either they edited it down to nothing for US broadcast or there was never much to it in the first place. (Or maybe we're to assume that Chucho and Alma are very efficient!)
Apparently it was satisfying enough for Chucho and Alma, but not for the viewers!
Hey Mike--Good to see you again. What a coincidence that this was the epi that Arely came back to us, no?
Julie--buen hecho, and TJ, great follow-up.
Julie--buen hecho, and TJ, great follow-up.
Julie--Apparently it was satisfying enough for Chucho and Alma, but not for the viewers! HaHa!
Thanks for saving me some time.
Thanks for saving me some time.
Anita: That was Arely?! I'll have to see if I can restore it from my DVR deletes and watch those scenes again.
Permalink posted by : Wednesday, July 31, 2013 at 6:09:00 PM EDT
: Wednesday, July 31, 2013 at 6:09:00 PM EDT
Did a search for photos of Areli on Google (areli cuando me enamoro) and there's a pic of Kat (5ft Latina)!!!!
Nanette
Nanette
Permalink posted by : Wednesday, July 31, 2013 at 7:00:00 PM EDT
: Wednesday, July 31, 2013 at 7:00:00 PM EDT
It's el niño tomasito herrera
http://puroshuesos.blogspot.com/2013/05/tomasito-herrera-espiritu-del-mas-alla.html
http://puroshuesos.blogspot.com/2013/05/tomasito-herrera-espiritu-del-mas-alla.html
Permalink posted by : Wednesday, July 31, 2013 at 7:00:00 PM EDT
: Wednesday, July 31, 2013 at 7:00:00 PM EDT
Uri and the Hooker with the heart of Gold and Fernando with the same heart of gold Hooker. She must know something is up...!
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