Tuesday, August 06, 2013
Corazon Indomable, Episode #60, Monday, August 5, 2013 – “An Epidemic of Stunned Silence!!!!”
I don't have the time to read the recap now and really take my time to enjoy it, so it will have to wait a couple of hours.
But I did get a glimpse of Octavio's reaction when Doris tells him about MariAle and the Gov being together... STUNNED SILENCE? Or was he just Oblivious? Priceless!! I can't wait to read the entire thing!
Today it seems everybody's reaction is STUNNED SILENCE!!
and I loved, - " (continuity, Mrs. Mejia, continuity. Look into it, along with writing, editing, etc., etc.) "
" Saying something only a male writer would make a female character say, Esther responds: “I want you to be superior to me.” "
Finally we get some action on this revenge plot, I think MariAle planning to get Miguel into debt up to his ears, and than maybe take the hacienda??!
I didn't see previews, can we expect a catfight tomorrow?
Kind of getting a kick out of Ester and JA. at least someone is having a romance, of sorts. And the fact it may drive Luciafer to implode only makes it better. I have to admit I'm enjoying their scenes and possibilities more than some of the daily dose of revenge and manipulations on the Isle.
As for these denizens, well, have to say that was a well-executed slap from MA. Right up there with some of the best from Absimo we recently witnessed. Gives new meaning to "Snap Out of It". Doris is just down-right scary. I love the way all these women are just bargaining for these guys and the guys are just clueless.
Just one pet-peeve...I hate when a character is holding a baby and doing the rantings or angry speeches. Bless that little one for staying so quiet, but those babies don't know it's all acting...drives me batty. Put them down and then go off and do your speeches.
Despite moments of high drama, it seemed like a pretty uneventful episode to me. I did enjoy seeing Doris enraged to the point of teeth-grinding apoplexy! That was priceless. The actress playing her certainly gets to chew the scenery. Nothing subtle about Doris. And also the look of "stunned silence" on Lucia's face when Ester informed her that she'd rather be with a peasant than by herself. Lucia literally cannot process that information can she? It's totally beyond her comprehension.
Being new to the TN game, I am intrigued by the odd way that time passes. I know that with American soaps (which I actually don't get in to, although I once did) time drags but on Isla Dorada we go from MA complaining to the Governor about foreign powers trying to purchase the casingo to him enacting a new law preventing that in literally a few minutes!
This episode has turned this TN into idioticness. I know that's not a word, but is should be.
Carola should sell her portion to Karim.
Now Ester is in love and wants to have children with JA. And wants JA to be superior to her. I'm with you Latina, come on writers.
If there were ever a 'Shut Up Doris' moment, it was her consistent and constant rant at Daddy and MA. I wonder if that actress gets tired of doing it.
Can MA really stand to have old man governor touching her and kissing her? No way!
FELS, here we come, you are going to lose your worse TN standing.
The stunned silence should have lasted the entire 60 min.
Why am I watching this dreck? I guess to see how stupid it can get.
What is this marriage mierda, MA & Oblivio forget they are married, only the idiot doesn't know it's to MA.
Rant over, I feel better.
I was actually entertained by this episode, but I share all the same frustrations you all mentioned and asked myself the same questions:
How can either Mari or Tav consider marrying other people when they both know they are already married?
Doesn't Mari realize that if she becomes the governor's girlfriend or wife, he is going to expect kisses and nookie?
What crazy thing is JA going to do if Ester uses him and tries to leave? It's not like he can shoot her to make her stay...oh, wait...
This is simply great. So very well done.
Move over Lucia and Doris and make room for Maricruz/ María Alexandra (should we open up 2 spots?) in the line of crazy women. Truthfully she should have been classified as such much earlier... say when she SHOT her husband. That was a clue. I really don't think I need to list my supporting evidence for this decision.
Only in a tn will a woman say the kind of things Esther blabs to JA. Whenever they talk about sex in tns, if love is involved or not, the women always (ALWAYS) say: "Me hizo suya" (he made me his) - who talks like that in real life??
Variopinta, I couldn't have said it better: I only watch to see how far along the silliness can go.
This has got to be the most idiotic tns I've ever seen (and I've seen A LOT!)
The only redeemable thing about this is the prota's chemistry, so guess what: we never see them together (although we did gave two kisses recently, so I guess we should be happy about it and stop whining).
I don't think I've ever seen an adult have a temper tantrum like the one spoiled princess Doris displayed. I thought her head might pop off!
Esther and JA... don't know how to feel about those two. I like that Esther doesn't want to be alone and is going after what she wants. Poor JA seems completely confused and over his head. Before these two got together I was kinda hoping MA would own the ranch and give it to JA and Santi for being such good friends.
The preview has me interested, MA says Doris has to choose bet Papa and Tav but it is really MA who needs to choose bet the two, as she has power over both.
Boy, MA is letting her thirst for vengeance get to her brain.
As long as they continue to have pretty dresses, I will put up with any estupidez they throw at me....
Except for Ester's lines. They really need to just stop writing dialog in those scenes. Last night's "I want you superior to me" is just wrong.
"MariAle arrives home in her jeep and uses the opportunity for yet another rant: “Who the heck does that rude little girl think she is? She thinks she can treat me like trash just like all others used to? No, no, I am not going to allow it. I have to get revenge against everyone that hurt me. All of them.”
Sort of OT: I love purses. Did anyone notice the purse MA had when she went to visit the Major? It was a brown purse. When she got back home, she had the same small whitish purse she has been using (also cute).
And "Epidemic of Stunned Silence" is quite an elegant way to describe the prolonged bug-eyed close-ups of impactada gente that seem to clog these telenovelas.
If you add up all the minutes of stunned silence, you've probably saved yourself 10 minutes of dialogue. And in the case of "I want you superior to me" that would probably be a good thing.
So you're with me in thinking those Maricruz dimples are symptomatic of some serious kegeling going on! We'll have to assume she's getting her pelvic floor back in fighting condition before the next romantic go-round with Octavio.
Not at all sure where the Esther-José Antonio thing is going. Will a jealous Eusebio-less, love-lorn Ofelia try to sow seeds of doubt? Will J-A wreak vengeance on Esther, believing she is faithless?
Will we care?
Oh my, I'm tired just thinking about it.
Latina, good catch on the brown purse/white purse glitch. I never notice details like that.
Enjoyed the recap, and enjoyed Shut Up Doris getting a good slap. Normally I'm agin' slaps of any kind by anybody, but this one was deeply satisfying. Almost as good as those tender yet passionate kisses of Octavio the other day (and the way he encircled Maricruz as she leaned against the railing...yessss Vivi!).
So cut back on dialogue and give us some more stolen kisses please. But if not, a few more wallops on Doris would be good.
The guys are allowed to be total dunderheads, but the bright intelligent woman will hang around for the loser instead of kicking him to the curb because it's always Lust....I mean, Love at First Site. The rarities like Amor B don't come along often with a bright woman and a decent galan.
I think with Ester and JA we will get the off-used cliche of the poor, humble character and the rich, often spoiled character hooking up and they both live happily ever after. I don't count Tav and MC in that category because she certainly didn't stay simple and humble. So Ester will most likely babble on with her bodice-ripper novel dialog and swoon. (Does anyone actually "swoon" anymore either?)
are so syrupy I'm surprised she is not surrounded by bees by now. Another one of your good lines was-
it was hard to tell what feeling if any, it was supposed to convey.
Oblivious?! I add, yes, he is oblivious.
I wonder what will happen with Ester y Antonio? JA loves Maricruz,
will Ester be able to make him change his mind? Is she just playing with him for now or is she really serious? She sure went after what she wanted but will it last? Will bsc/lucifer ask her to leave the rancho? This is getting interesting.
THE SLAP!! Yes, the slap both seen and heard round the world. WOW!! It
was a GREAT slap, spun Doris clear around. She never saw it coming. I
couldn't help but think about Doris's favorite words, "I'm the governor's daughter." Advice to Doris---Don't mess with Mari, you are about to experience Maricruz 1.0 and you don't want that.
QUESTION---Is the governor just the governor of the island or of a state? Does anyone know?
Things are getting very interesting
Ester and JA, Miguel going broke, the governor's play for MariAle, BSC-Doris and Phycho Karim. Just think, some said that CI was boring
Carvivlie---Yes, Doris can sure bring it on can't she?
Sara C---A BIG YES! The dresses are fabulous. I'm enjoying the "boring" LOL, fashion show every night.
Cherry---I'm looking forward to #61also, can't wait.
Variopinta y Adriana Noel---To each his/her own so go ahead and laugh, I will be enjoying every minute of episode #61.
Maybe it's the bad editing of this tn, and in fact JA and Ester have been hooking up for MONTHS now, and she's starting to realize that she loves and wants to marry this guy. But really, it seems like it's been three days and 2 screws, and already she's talking eternity and babies. WTH?
Paul- The way time passes in this tn is odd, even for telenovelas .
There is usually a strange way that time passes in tns-- if you paid close attention and counted days, it would not seem like much time has passed at all. But usually big time jumps (days, weeks, months, years) are announced with a caption, so that your brain can adjust. This is the only tn I have seen that doesn't do that. We never get a sense of how much time has passed by, so it feels really confusing.
Lucia, Mari and Solita (where o where is Solita?) have gotten pregnant and had their babies, and not once did we see anything that told us months had gone by. Teo has just had major reconstructive surgery, and we got no indication of how long has passed between when he went under the knife, and when he reappeared in the casino as Angel. (The doc mentioned before the surgery that it would be at least 10 days before his bandages would be removed.) And now a law has been created and passed, with no indication of how long that process took (hours, days, weeks?).
"First we have to buy up all the Beanie Babies".
And instead of feeling verklempt, I just start laughing like crazy.
MariAle keeps saying to the Gov: Soy una senora en todos los sentidos, I am a (married) lady in every sense of the word. Didn't she also tell him when he first saw the baby that she was not illegitimate? Why doesn't the gov mention divorce, or is he also the pope of Isla Dorada and able to annul marriages? I get the feeling that the gov is supposedly assuming she was speaking both times metaphorically and that he will be muy impactado when she stuns him that she is still legally married!
Danilea, MA told the governor that she had a child but she neglected to tell him that she was married to the father. I think I recapped that one.
I've got a tub full of beanie babies from when my daughter was into them. I couldn't get rid of them, I'm hoping she eventually has a daughter who would play with them. But I could sell some to Karim.
"(Her words are so syrupy I’m surprised she is not surrounded by bees by now.)"
Also, must agree with Cathy:" This episode has turned this TN into idioticness. I know that's not a word, but is should be. " I agree!!
Is there anything that rings remotely plausible about the main threads of this plot-line anymore? I can't believe that we're still being asked to watch Octavio and MariAle together AS IF they aren't married and he doesn't know who she really is. By the way, are we looking at a double-bind bigamist rap down the line for both Octavio and MA?
What's the criteria for Doris' sense that MA can just be thrown of the Isla? Or overnite, the Guv can have a law passed banning foreign ownership?
Octavio is hooked on MA and shows utter disdain for Doris but still goes into lip-lock with her on demand? And on and on.
Who is writing this stuff?
I may need to take a break from viewing and try to follow the recaps - only for a while.
"...he will be muy impactado when she stuns him that she is still legally married!"
Maybe because they get the impactado faces all the time and then they just go about their usual business like nothing happened.
Only in a telenovela...
Doris never ceases to amuse me. Her tantrums are priceless. I'm actually grateful for a typical love triangle.
I'm still not a Jester fan. I completely agree with @Vivi that the writers resorted to cheap stereotyping when Ester started mentioning babies and marriage. Part of me was hoping that Ester was simply looking for a good time, and JA would be the romantic one in the pareja. It would have been interesting to see the tables turned- with a woman playing with a man's emotions. Ester's "I want you to be superior to me" line was unforgivable. It's the 21st century! I think this couple is going to last longer than I originally supposed, but I don't really care! Haha
I like the Gobernador. Is that strange? He seems to genuinely care about Maria Alejandra, and not just for her beauty.
Karim is a disappointment to me. I was expecting an epic revenge scheme. Instead we get a heinously unoriginal plan to buy the casino. Why not sell it to him and use the money to buy the ranch?
As for hanging on to the casino (one of MANY she has, as Raiza reminded us again)...if she wouldn't give the place up when it was costing her father his health and his life, she certainly won't give it up now.
I hope her employees in all of her other casinos and businesses are fleecing her left and right, as she ignores them to focus on the one on Isla Dorada.
Thanks for the recap, LatinaInMD. The plot here is descending into stupidity, without a pretext of logic. Sorry to see this, but I shouldn't be surprised.
The more stupid the plot becomes, the more zingers we come up with - soon we won't be able to utter one sensible word while watching...
Does anyone know: Has he ever played a villain? I've only ever seen him as a nice guy.
Although I know that this is as ludicrous as a TN can be, I love watching it. At least it's not a soapy river of tears kind of tear jerker one. I like Ana Brenda.
I wonder where Esther and JA is heading. Esther seems to appear serious and true in what she says. In the past, I had a feeling that she was going to be redeemable due to the fact that she drew the line on Lucia and was kind of the voice of reason for her. Didn't she leave the ranch when Lucia was getting out of hand with her cruel treatment of MC and wanted no part of those cruel games her cousin was playing? I'm ready to give her a second chance.
Uggh! I really can't stand Doris. This is where this drama is getting downright stupid. I am stunned by her obsession to get rid of MA and drive her out of town!!! Where in this world can you go and have another person be driven out of town. she can order her to leave her house but not her town. Doris should be taken to the mental hospital real quick by her dad.
And as for Oblivious, He keeps listening to woman hater Eduardo and so keeps on giving in to Doris. He is so stupid and kept on sending Doris the wrong signal.
As punishment for Eduardo, he should end up marrying Doris. Ha!!!
I'm sure I've seen him as a villain in the past, too, but I don't remember where now.
This. As much as I enjoy this show (and I really am shamefully loving it) I have to keep telling myself overandoverandover that it's a remake with very little "remaking" actually happening. I chalk up every flaw to that, thus I don't think about the flaws much since many have nothing to do with poor remaking. See recap: "Continuity, Mrs. Mejia, continuity. Look into it, along with writing, editing, etc., etc.
@Vivi-The whole passage of time thing is driving me batty. I don't think I've ever seen it done so badly.
Thanks for the info! I will have to decide if my heart can handle Alejandro as a villain.
"Sort of OT: I love purses. Did anyone notice the purse MA had when she went to visit the Major? It was a brown purse. When she got back home, she had the same small whitish purse she has been using (also cute)."
I meant to say does anyone know the brand of the brown purse? I really liked it.
Things are getting curiouser and curiouser! This is like an Alice in Wonderland warp on telenovelas.
thanks again :)