Caray, Caray!

I missed a few shows, but have been reading the wonderful and informative recaps. Last I knew, Amelia was bedridden and unable to walk. In last night's episode, she was walking around at home with no sign of illness. What happened? Was it some miracle cure?

 

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Could one of our Caraycaraymates PLEASE let me know the name of the song that the guys sang to JA in prison? I LOVE that song and have always wanted to know the name of it so that I can find it and download it. I sure hope one of you out there knows this song!

Some odds and ends thoughts:

I love Arturo Peniche. I'm going to miss him.

I wish I had all of Maria's beautiful outfits.

I wish Mr. Montero had shaved. Such a handsome face to be ruined by that 5 o'clock shadow. It just detracts from his handsomeness.

The Tostito signs flashing during the wedding with Isa eating chips out of the bag! Unbelievable! It made the whole thing look like a sporting event!

I am going to miss how handsome the charro outfits made all of the men look even if they weren't necessarily handsome.

I am going to miss the music and the outdoor scenes.

I marvel at all of these top heavy women with their huge bosoms and wonder how they don't fall out of their dresses with every breath!

Most of all, I am going to miss my beautiful Jorge Salinas who can flash that smile with those gorgeous dimples at me ANY time!

I've had my share of complaints about things, but I think I am going to see this again just for the music.

Can't wait for your recap, Jardinera!

Urban, I sure hope you know the name to that song I asked about up at the top of my comments.

Fatima
 

Fatima

You summed up my feeling pretty well. I too love Arturo Peniche. He starred in the first novela I ever saw and I've been his fan ever since. He is always different, consistently excellent and he also passed his talent on to his son.

Those clothes, that music, the bright colors, the food talk all will be missed in my household.

Waiting for that recap because surprise surprise I have plenty to say. LOL
 

Decie Girl, thanks so much! Mr. Peniche is such a talent; such a talent. I have loved him in this sometimes even more than my beautiful Mr. Salinas.

I look forward to your thoughts and comments once Jardinera gets the recap up!

Fatima
 

Wanted to add to my question about the song that the guys sang: I love the instrumental intro to that song. Is that truly the intro to that specific song, or is that a standard and classical intro to "any" song?

Thanks!

Fatima
 

Fatima, I also agree with you completely. I'll miss this TN and all my make believe friends and most of all Jorge. I just wish it had lived up to its potential better.

I woke up this morning humming that song, Si No Te Hubieras Ido. It's been around as a pop song for a long time.

Here's a non-mariachi (but very nice) version by the guy who wrote it:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hj5wVRnzzlc

More info:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Si_No_Te_Hubieras_Ido
 

Carolina, amiga! Como estas? :)

Actually, the song I am looking for is the one the guys sang right as they entered the prison to sing to JA and not the song sung by Maria.

They all looked so handsome singing there. That's the song I'm looking for. Do you know that one?

Fatima
 

Fatima, that song is by Marco Antonio Solis and it's called No Hay Nada Mas Dificil. It's not a mariachi standard.

After how the writers of this series have butchered people's impressions of our justice system I won't even comment on how improbably it would be for a mariachi band to visit a person in federal lockup.
 

URBaN I too had hysterics at the idea of a mariachi band casually strolling into the prison yard singing then I remembered that Johnny Cash did s concert at Folsom Prison which is a maximum security prison unlike this day camp Santos seems to be in. And Santos is in a state prison not a federal one I think.
 

Gobluefan from OH: Welcome! Glad to hear from you! Maybe you'll stick around for the new tn, which from the looks of the first few minutes will be a better production and much more interesting--especially cuz I don't think it's a Mejia mezcla.
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Hi, y'all. It's done. What kind of nonsense was the haunted bar scene all about? Of all things that could have and should have been left on the cutting room floor!

As for the musical program, well, of course Justo probably used his former prestigious position and contacts to put this thing on for diversity sake and that way he got Maria legally involved and into the states as a member of the performing mariachi group.
 

BTW, tonight I'm going to my first quinceanera shindig. I was thrilled to have been invited and wouldn't have dared missed it for the world.
 

JARDINERA Loved the description of the Maria OJ face off. He never expected that some meek looking Mexican woman would turn on him like a viper and take a metaphorical bite out of him. She wins.

With 10 episodes to go it is time for Karmageddon to come a callin for OJ, Redneck and Evile. And for good measure the two full of themselves snotty teens who need a major wake up call and internet humiliation. And don't save it all for episode 161 - start now.

Interesting preview that seems to indicate there is a personal vendetta by the DA against Santos. That frankly makes no sense at all since it could only have involved Gracia. I'm thinking Justo won her over the morally bankrupt politician. And what card does OJ think he has up his sleeve?

Like the stupidity of a ghost at the bar-perhaps it is Pedro back to make sure the Hernandez crew get what is coming to them.

Nice to know that Redneck admits he is a fugitive but how come the Mexican version of the Dumbbells didn't catch him when he and his trollops were out wining and dining.

Kind of like the idea of Roddy being told he lost the battle but not the war while Evile is crowing about winning a battle but not the war she is going to lose.

I too think that Don Nando is getting flashes of his memory back. I wondered how they could get the two of them together and this is about as good a way as possible unless the old man dies on the way out to the concert.

Just a logical question about an illogical story. A few days ago everyone is in the hospital trying to figure out a way to get enough pesos together for Amelia's treatment and to bail Wendy and the baby out. Next thing we know they are all back at the Mendozas, Amelia with another miracle cure and last night all the mariachi's fly to LA. They haven't gotten the money from the potential sale of the bar so I guess someone won the lottery.


 

Urban and Carolina, the song I want is the one right BEFORE Maria comes in to sing.

Michael and JA are sitting there and all of a sudden the guys come in singing and playing a mariachi song. This is the song Don Nando is hearing.

So, the song RIGHT BEFORE Maria sings the Marco Antonio Solis song which IS a mariachi song.

I SO hope one of you can identify this song. I have always loved it when I heard it, but there was no one around to ever tell me the name of it.

Please, guys, help! I've got to know the name of this song. :)))

Fatima
 

To clarify, Don Nando is getting his memory back as he listens to this song.

Yes. Can you all tell I am desperate to know the name of this song?! :))

Jardinera, mil gracias otra ves!!

Fatima
 

If you go go the unvision videos site for QBA and run the capitulo, the song in question starts about 32:29 or so.

Yes. Further proof that come hell or high water, one of you guys is going to tell me the name of that mariachi song! LOL!

Fatima
 

Fatima


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/El_Son_de_la_Negra

Negrita de mis pesares,
ojos de papel volando.
Negrita de mis pesares,
ojos de papel volando.
A todos diles que sí
pero no les digas cuándo.
Así me dijiste a mí;
por eso vivo penando.

¿Cuándo me traes a mi negra?
Que la quiero ver aquí
con su rebozo de seda
que le traje de Tepic.

¿Cuándo me traes a mi negra?
Que la quiero ver aquí
con su rebozo de seda
que le traje de Tepic.


enjoy.

Faye
 

Faye!!!!!! That's it!!! Huge hugs to you! HUGE!!!! This has made me SO happy!!! Mil, pero mil gracias!!!!!

Going to buy it and download now!

THANK YOU, FAYE!!!!

Fatima :))))
 

Just want to check in again and say thank you, Faye! Finally, finally, finally, I know the name of this beautiful song.

It's purchased,downloaded, and enjoyed by me!!

Fatima
 

Faye: Thanks for digging that song out for us! I agree that it is one of the prettiest and muy catchy. Thank you again cuz I couldn't RR to the correct spot for Fatima for some reason.
 

Fatima, the song is "El Son de la Negra" - and it's about/to a lady love nicknamed "la negra." This is a nickname that some dark-skinned females are lovingly called sometimes. This seems to be what has triggered some of Don Nando's memories. It seems he called his (wife?) woman "Negra" and he remembered saying to her he would return to her and that nothing could keep him from her. It doesn't sound like he abandoned her, but the memories are just starting.
 

Anon @0244, thank you, too, for your input! I've purchased and downloaded the song and think it is just so beautiful. I also found a You Tube of the Mariachi Vargas playing the song and showcasing some beautiful dancers. :))

I agree. The song is helping Don Nando regain his memory! I am looking forward to this part of the story.

Thank you, Anon!

Fatima
 

It's a nice touch that a song would help Nano remember his past which ow seems to bee seeped in tragedy — a man going north to be able to help his family and ending up in prison while his family ends up on the street. We may be weeping before this is all over. Adding to it is the fact that the parts are played by an actor with the skill to really hit the emotional heart of the part.
 

I couldn't resist checking out multiple versions of the song on I-Tunes. There are over 50 mostly in the mariachi style but one on the harp and a couple of instrumentals. For my taste the one I had to get was the version by Los Mariachis Mexicanos. It is more of a solo but I couldn't help thinking that the singer sounded like one of the many voices used for Jorge. LOL In any event listening to it will always remind me of QBA and our little mariachi loving musical familia.
 

Decie Girl, you've hit the nail on the head! I don't know what it is, but this song will remind me of our very little, but wonderful group here on QBA. Like you, that I can associate this song with the wonderful Mr. Peniche makes it even better. As much as I love looking at the beautiful Mr. Salinas, Arturo keeps my eyes totally focused on him and his acting.

He has these little touches that make for a big moment like when he gently placed Ana on the bed and told her about his love for her. I nearly got tears in my eyes! Could such a man ever exist in real life?! Who knows, but it was sure nice watching Peniche say those lovely words.

We've been so fortunate to have an incredibly talented group of recappers for this TN. Thank you SO much all of you!

Fatima
 

Decie Girl, I forgot to add that I did purchase the Mariachi Vargas version of the song and also their rendition of "Malaguena Salerosa".

Fatima
 

There are a number of versions you can listen to and watch on You Tube, even a Mexican National Symphony version!

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I've loved the music and both Dana Garcia and Pablo's fabulous voices and the truly professional musical productions for this one. DG's voice is so perfect she almost reminds me of Julie Andrews! The TN gave me a whole new window to the world of Mariachi and Musica Ranchera. I'll miss that a lot. The plot and the casting over all not so much because for the storyline the actors again were physically too old to be taken seriously. On the other hand, AP, DG, JS and AM,
 

I will miss the music very much when this is over along with my two favorite gentlemen. It's too bad that the writers have screwed up so badly on some issues and especially with these final weeks.
 

I meant to say that the stars are ever the stars and do as much as they can to make the best of the situation and do prove their star quality repeatedly which makes the weaker telenovelas like this one at least bearable--tho' barely. I have to say that I prefer JS's puppydog eyes in riding chaps and a cowboy hat--though not wearing a black one, let alone for an entire 8 months again!
 

Jardinera, he must have had 10 sets of the same black clothes for that series, but that was a stellar performance.

However, he looks very noble in his traje de charro, especially when we remember that this once was the clothing of landowners. Makes me remember Don Daniel of Amor Bravio talking about wearing it with pride in being Mexican.
 

Jardinera, I forgot to add yesterday that the very last line of the recap was one of your best:

"Viewerville wonders when Amalia will ever get a first clue let alone the last."

Fatima
 

I have to agree that those charro suits are absolutely stunning although I'm not too crazy about the red ones. It is almost impossible to look bad in them. The hats on the other hand are very heavy and wearing them all day during filming must have produced a few headaches. And I do wish Coloso would have the manners to take his hat off when he goes indoors. I've noticed how Fernando always made Jalisquito do it.

As for Amelia getting a clue — my bet is never. It bugged me that she had so little dignity in front of Evile. I would have held my head up and told the beyoch that her day will come. I sure wouldn't have whined where are we going to live although the thought would be running around in my head like a hamster on a wheel.
 

Tonight's article is ready and will post automatically at 11PM. I will be on Lincoln Center Plaza for the red-carpet action and the opera on the big screen.

Totally agree about the red suits. Maria's red dress is fabulous, but red suits on men not so much.

I agree about Amalia and her lack of dignity, but then Elvira knows nothing of dignity herself.
 

It's Monday afternoon....only a few hours to go before my Never-Will-Be-A-Favorite TN of mine comes on. (EXCEPT for everything about Jorge Salinas and Dana Garcia's mariachi costumes and her flamenco hair style)

Just got back from the beach (to explain my absence--it was not abandonment) and caught up with a marathon of watching AND reading Caray. Special thanks to the recappers because I >>ff through many scenes I thought were boring and found out reading the recap they could have given me some extra laughs.

What can I say that adds anything that hasn't already been said. Well, I do have some to throw out:

a) An unlikely godfather wandering around the streets of DF in a doctor's smock & stethoscope--then back to the US and knows exactly where Maria is working, pulls a gun and then gets talked out of 'having a talk.'

b) Mexican hospital policy that keeps folks from leaving if they can't pay. Sheez, hasn't anyone heard of bill collectors down there?

c) How the US criminal procedure has been perverted by Mexican script writers. Those 'US Police' manuals and records in a small room--not even a proper prison library and left without supervision. In this instance I do not blame the writers, I blame the folks who are supposed to furnish the sets.

d) The mariachi concert in the prison yard, too funny. They sure got their visas quickly, don'tcha think?

e) The help wanted sign that said 'must speak English' was too funny. Do we know if Maria speaks enough English to work in a restaurant as a waitress? Last time I heard her, she was looking for a prison official who spoke Spanish. I would have expected her to start out as a busboy clearing tables and filling water glasses and bringing bread.

f) No advance notice of eviction from the vecindad? And they guy is yelling that it's the law and he has papers?

g) WHY isn't Maria staying at Justo's palatial home, with all the research he did on Santos' case up to now? It was nice of him to send Salvador to get Maria across the border successfully, but don't you think his care would extend to making sure she had somewhere to sleep and eat? I would have found it much more believable to have her in Justo's house working on the case that in that awful motel.

 

It seems I've been too wordy and have to break this in two parts.

Fatima--Along with everyone else, think your "odds and ends" list is so cool. ITA with every item you are going to miss.

I'm going to add:

I'm going to miss the few scenes we got with horses in them.

As I said above, I'm going to miss watching Dana Garcia in her mariachi outfits with her hair pulled up in back.

I am NOT going to miss:

Mi niñas, mi chiquita and mi bonita. (Deciegirl & Anon207--please keep giving us a running total--that'll keep your attention from wandering).

Bad English from characters who are supposed to speak English (I agree with the comments on the anti-gringo slant of some of the situations.)

Irasema's voice and acting

Mancia's acting

Pinchi and Lalo (I think they needed the work to keep their Mexican Screen Actors Guild accounts current, or they KNEW one of the producers. And where are Prudencia & Remedios, I kinds liked them.)

Roddy and all the teenagers (I'd much rather have seen a whole novela about hijinks in high school--OR maybe NOT.)

Amalia in any condition (I think it would have been much more dramatic to let her die in the hospital--then see how the hospital tries to collect. Justo could have adopted Paloma and Isa and taken them back to LA with him and Wendy and the bebe. Will we EVER get to find out who left Isa on Amalia's doorstep or has that just been written out of the script--they made it sound so important TO THE VIEWERS.)

Crossing the border and the desert in stack heeled boots, no water, and carrying a mariachi sombrero and not using it to shield oneself from the sun

Gloria, Roddy's mother (Sorry, but I though she was completely superfluous, except for maybe a very weak PSA announcement. Interesting that both her breasts looked exactly the same right after the surgery. Usually there is some time lag before reconstruction or prosthetics, or am I mistaken. Roddy could have been the street urchin like Jalisquito that the mariachi's took in.)
 

ANITA

I wondered about the Justo house as well but maybe he was juggling so many other things he didn't think about it, it might be too far from the prison and in an upscale neighborhood it might have called unwanted attention to an undocumented girl although Sal seems to have no trouble coming and going. He could pass himself off as a gardener but it might be harder to explain a pretty girl suddenly showing up.

I don't think we will ever learn anything about Idsa's background. It was just a distraction or perhaps something they reconsidered and cut.

OJ finding Maria wasn't hard to explain She gave her number and location to the crooked guard in case anything came up involving Santos, and he immediately caslled OJ.

Have tossed in my hat over the insanity of how our justice system is portrayed. It is all egregious but the you have two days until your trial, I have no lawyer or time to prepare, tough is almost the worst (outside of poor Nano spending 28 years with no trial). This is a California prison, located in the 9th Circuit Court of Appeals area. Once Santos gets a lawyer any conviction would be tossed immediately since his rights were severely violated. Then again the Mexican writers probably don't know about our appeal process since they don't know about anything else.

Maria's red dress is beautiful but I'm not crazy about the white one with the odd positioning of the eagle right over her tummy. It just looks odd to me.
 

Hey all, I forgot to add Irasema's strange wig to the things I won't miss.

Could it be that KA refused hair extensions or having to sit in the make-up chair for hours just to do the hair every day? They probably said either that or a wig.

In any case, it made her look like a 'ho she was, the whole time--granted a 'ho with a heart of gold.
 

Anita, amiga, so glad you are back! Hope you had a nice time at the beach. Thank you for your kind compliment about my little list.

I, too, have loved Maria's hair when it is pulled back. It would be my luck that I would get a huge headache if I wore my hair like that, but I would SO love to have that hairdo. It is gorgeous.

Your rewrite for Amalia is P.E.R.F.E.C.T.!!! As it is, I am literally dreading that she will end up with Justo. She does not deserve it; not one little bit.

I have also been wondering about the Isa story line and figured that they just gave up on it.

So, Urban, you will be on the red carpet tonight?! YIKES! I "know" someone famous! Hope you give us a quick little blurb tomorrow.

Amigas (I don't think we have had any amigos, have we?) I have really enjoyed watching this TN with all of you! If there are hidden amigos out there, glad you have been with us. :))

Fatima


 

Enjoy, Urban!

Anita! Nice to see you didn't forget about us!

Fatima: list away, amiga!

Decie: I was thinking that with as much ass backward legal stuff you'd be chomping at the bit to dissect the eventual proceedings. You'll have to do that for the upcoming Trial of the Century.