Wednesday, November 20, 2013
Mentir Para Vivir #32 Tue 11/19/13 Cynderella's Interpretation
My version will be up shortly! In the meanwhile...talk amongst yourselves and share what you know. See my version below. See Vivi's version in the comments for the TRUTH! [I've included both parts following Cynderella's summary. Thanks to both of you since the rescheduling really screwed all of us up! I almost missed both telenovela episodios myself last night. --Jardinera654]
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Both Parts of ViviDC's recap from her posts below. ~~
-Alina tells Paloma about Colombia and her great times with her dad. She is just bursting with happiness. Then she begs Paloma not to tell her mom that she spilled the beans about Colombia because it’s supposed to be a secret. Paloma promises and hugs the little girl.
- Ori puts an end to the foursome (her, JL, Raqui, and Sebas) very quickly. JL leaves too, dropping a big wad of cash for the drinks, most of which Sebas puts in his pocket. Sebas and Raqui decide to stir up trouble by immediately calling Ricky with the news about Ori seeing another man, Francisco Castro. Ricky keeps his cool and says she's just seeing him about the investment.
- JL drops Ori off, a few blocks away as she demands. She is adamant that she will NOT let him invest his dirty money in the company and hurt Paloma and Ricky.
- She is told by the maid to go see Paloma immediately. Paloma is agitated. She now realizes that there is so much about Inez’s life before that she doesn’t know (thinking of Colombia). With these now multiple late night escapades, Paloma has wondered if she’s gone back into her old bad habits (hooking and drugging). She gets so worked up, she starts to have a heart attack. Ori calls for an ambulance, and then tries to reassure a now unconscious (or is she?) Paloma that she is not hooking and drugging, because she is NOT Inez!
- At the hospital, Ori is a mess and thinks it’s all her fault. Mariano (wearing proper black) tries to reassure her. Mati tries to listen in, and catches on tha Ori thinks it’s her fault. Ruben tells her to mind her own business. Mariano hugs Ori, and clearly feels more than the call of God. Ricky notices and clenches his jaw quietly. The doc tells them that it was indeed a heart attack, and it’s touch and go right now. They all go to pray. Ori prays for guidance to make the right choice—stay, go, tell the truth, continue the lie? All choices could lead to Paloma’s demise. Mati prays for Paloma to stay alive…because if she dies, Inez would kick them out. Ha! Mariano does the last rights over Paloma, but it’s really more of a personal prayer to God to take care of this good woman who has already suffered so much.
-Ori stays in the hospital all night, after everyone else goes home. She gets the chance to speak to Paloma when she wakes up. She assures Paloma she wasn’t up to old tricks. She was with her husband both evenings when she went out. She will one day tell her the rest of the secrets of her life, but now is not the time. This calms Paloma.
-The mob continues to pressure JL to get his claws into Aresti-Breton after he says the majority shareholder refuses and is now laid up after a heart attack.
Paloma insists that they go ahead and have the party for Alina without her. This will be significant because Ori made JL promise NOT to come to the party, since it will raise all kinds of questions. He promises, but previews show he breaks that promise.
-Piero shows Ricky the report on the investment company. Everything checks out, but Peiro still doesn’t trust them. He personally wouldn’t allow the investment. JL is next to meet with JL/FC. He gets right to the point and says he knows he’s really JL and Ori’s husband. JL at first tries to deny. Then he tries threats. Does Ricky want Ori to go to jail? Ricky hotly counters that he’d gladly throw JL in jail. JL then comes back pointing out how cheaply/quickly Ricky would sell out Ori, who he supposedly loves. Points scored for JL. Ricky
immediately feels like a stupid jerk for having said such a thing. (Of course he would never turn Ori in, just to get JL.)
-Ori arrives home from the hospital to shower and rest for a bit. The servants point out that her brand new SUV has arrived. Feeling even more guilty than usual, she insists they send it back to the dealership. Thinking this is crazy talk, they call Ricky with the news. He decides to come over, when he immediately goes to Ori’s bedroom and gets up in her face about everything. Mati tries to listen in, thinking they are going to get busy in the bedroom. Ruben pulls her away, tells her they are grown people, and to mind her own business. LOL!
-Ricky is like a dog with a bone. Ori is so tired, it doesn’t take her long to admit that FC is JL. He’s pressuring her to convince Paloma to take the deal, which she refuses to do, and to get back together with him, which she is considering for Alina’s sake. Knowing he needs more help, Ricky calls on Mariano. The three of them meet and discuss the options. Obviously, Ricky is not down with the go back to JL plan.
-Sebas spots Fabi on her way home from the hospital. He convinces her to come back to his place, where he then uses every trick in the horny teenager playbook (that her parents should have taught her about) to convince her to have sex with him. Later, he drops her off a few blocks from home, tells her to fix her hair and makeup, and doesn’t even get out to open her door for her. Even his anemic protestations of love and that they are now like husband and wife, aren’t enough to stop Fabi’s tears or that sinking feeling that she just lost her virginity to a jerk.
-Raqui tells Lucina about Ori’s late night meeting with FC. Lucina is impactada.
The investigator in Colombia was able to get the bank documents with Ori's signature to compare it to her marriage certificate signature. They are both indeed her signature. JL didn't forge the bank papers, he slipped them in with other papers and had Ori put her real signature on them. This is NOT good and makes it harder to prove her innocence. Ricky then suggests that the investigator get his hands on the deposit and withdrawal slips and see who signed those. Surely, it will be JL. Piero says that's a lot harder to do, but Ricky says the detective needs to do what it takes. Then he speaks about selling his shares to JL's friends, in exchange for JL leaving and leaving Ori alone, forever.
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- Ori puts an end to the foursome (her, JL, Raqui, and Sebas) very quickly. JL leaves too, dropping a big wad of cash for the drinks, most of which Sebas puts in his pocket. Sebas and Raqui decide to stir up trouble by immediately calling Ricky with the news about Ori seeing another man, Francisco Castro. Ricky keeps his cool and says she's just seeing him about the investment.
- JL drops Ori off, a few blocks away as she demands. She is adamant that she will NOT let him invest his dirty money in the company and hurt Paloma and Ricky.
- She is told by the maid to go see Paloma immediately. Paloma is agitated. She now realizes that there is so much about Inez’s life before that she doesn’t know (thinking of Colombia). With these now multiple late night escapades, Paloma has wondered if she’s gone back into her old bad habits (hooking and drugging). She gets so worked up, she starts to have a heart attack. Ori calls for an ambulance, and then tries to reassure a now unconscious (or is she?) Paloma that she is not hooking and drugging, because she is NOT Inez!
- At the hospital, Ori is a mess and thinks it’s all her fault. Mariano (wearing proper black) tries to reassure her. Mati tries to listen in, and catches on tha Ori thinks it’s her fault. Ruben tells her to mind her own business. Mariano hugs Ori, and clearly feels more than the call of God. Ricky notices and clenches his jaw quietly. The doc tells them that it was indeed a heart attack, and it’s touch and go right now. They all go to pray. Ori prays for guidance to make the right choice—stay, go, tell the truth, continue the lie? All choices could lead to Paloma’s demise. Mati prays for Paloma to stay alive…because if she dies, Inez would kick them out. Ha! Mariano does the last rights over Paloma, but it’s really more of a personal prayer to God to take care of this good woman who has already suffered so much.
-Ori stays in the hospital all night, after everyone else goes home. She gets the chance to speak to Paloma when she wakes up. She assures Paloma she wasn’t up to old tricks. She was with her husband both evenings when she went out. She will one day tell her the rest of the secrets of her life, but now is not the time. This calms Paloma.
-The mob continues to pressure JL to get his claws into Aresti-Breton after he says the majority shareholder refuses and is now laid up after a heart attack.
- Paloma insists that they go ahead and have the party for Alina without her. This will be significant because Ori made JL promise NOT to come to the party, since it will raise all kinds of questions. He promises, but previews show he breaks that promise.
-Piero shows Ricky the report on the investment company. Everything checks out, but Peiro still doesn’t trust them. He personally wouldn’t allow the investment. JL is next to meet with JL/FC. He gets right to the point and says he knows he’s really JL and Ori’s husband. JL at first tries to deny. Then he tries threats. Does Ricky want Ori to go to jail? Ricky hotly counters that he’d gladly throw JL in jail. JL then comes back pointing out how cheaply/quickly Ricky would sell out Ori, who he supposedly loves. Points scored for JL. Ricky immediately feels like a stupid jerk for having said such a thing. (Of course he would never turn Ori in, just to get JL.)
-Ori arrives home from the hospital to shower and rest for a bit. The servants point out that her brand new SUV has arrived. Feeling even more guilty than usual, she insists they send it back to the dealership. Thinking this is crazy talk, they call Ricky with the news. He decides to come over, when he immediately goes to Ori’s bedroom and gets up in her face about everything. Mati tries to listen in, thinking they are going to get busy in the bedroom. Ruben pulls her away, tells her they are grown people, and to mind her own business. LOL!
-Ricky is like a dog with a bone. Ori is so tired, it doesn’t take her long to admit that FC is JL. He’s pressuring her to convince Paloma to take the deal, which she refuses to do, and to get back together with him, which she is considering for Alina’s sake. Knowing he needs more help, Ricky calls on Mariano. The three of them meet and discuss the options. Obviously, Ricky is not down with the go back to JL plan.
-Sebas spots Fabi on her way home from the hospital. He convinces her to come back to his place, where he then uses every trick in the horny teenager playbook (that her parents should have taught her about) to convince her to have sex with him. Later, he drops her off a few blocks from home, tells her to fix her hair and makeup, and doesn’t even get out to open her door for her. Even his anemic protestations of love and that they are now like husband and wife, aren’t enough to stop Fabi’s tears or that sinking feeling that she just lost her virginity to a jerk.
-Raqui tells Lucina about Ori’s late night meeting with FC. Lucina is impactada.
Poor Fabi! Please don't let her get pregnant. I forgot to mention that Fidelia saw Sebas sliming on Fabi when she was on her way to visit Paloma at the hospital. She didn't know who the girl was, but she was concerned.
Thank you VIVI, I really appreciate it.
Cynderella
The investigator in Colombia was able to get the bank documents with Ori's signature to compare it to her marriage certificate signature. They are both indeed her signature. JL didn't forge the bank papers, he slipped them in with other papers and had Ori put her real signature on them. This is NOT good and makes it harder to prove her innocence. Ricky then suggests that the investigator get his hands on the deposit and withdrawal slips and see who signed those. Surely, it will be JL. Piero says that's a lot harder to do, but Ricky says the detective needs to do what it takes. Then he speaks about selling his shares to JL's friends, in exchange for JL leaving and leaving Ori alone, forever.
It seems Oriana just speak then, when she is shaken by a strong man. All of this struggles between the heroes wasn't, If Ori would be honest.
I loved Ricky's looking when Mariano huged Ori, and our priest noticed watchful eyes of Ricky.
I loved the same mode Adriana Roel as Delia Casanova in LFDD.
Opening credit: probably I am the only one, who loves this pictures. For me is so boring when I see an entrada from promoscenes, I am waiting more from the produceres. For me not enough e.g. LQLVMR, ADP os STUD. Before MPV I loved entrada of LQNPA. Opening credit of MPV was novel in Mexico, but not in the world, because the Globo showed something similar in 2007. It was the abertura of Sete pecados.
Lo: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D3zaeWQtf7Y
Cynderella - "Paloma confronts Inez about Jose Luis and tells Inez that you can take the hooker off the corner, but you can’t take the corner out of the hooker."
Vivi - "Mariano hugs Ori, and clearly feels more than the call of God."
Oriana needs Ricky's help. But I hope she doesn't let him take charge. I don't know if it was in the show or the previews, but Ricky said something about blocking JL forever from not just Oriana, but Alina as well, and that's crazy.
Did anyone else think that Padre Plaid was checking out the woman in black at the hospital? He actually spun around to take a look as she walked by.
Sure hope that idiot Sebas used a preservativo. Fabiola needs to talk to someone in confidence. Cause if not, I’m afraid she’ll become Sebas’ doormat.
Matilde shows me that she continues to do things for all the wrong reasons. Paloma is her meal ticket. That is her only interest in her. She's smothered her children with her sanctimonious BS. Smothering children is not the same as directing children. I felt so horrible for Fabi, so horrible to lose one's virginity so that one piece of trash can have his fun. Fabi strikes me as a sensitive young lady. This encounter could have long lasting effects.
So, Matilde, is this what you wanted for your smothered children?!
As for JL, he's slime to me. He is a loser. This RIDICULOUS argument of how he was "forced" into doing his bad deeds. Oh please save your breath, buster!
If I were Orines/Oriana, I think I could much more easily handle adultery than what JL has done to Oriana. Are you telling me that there was NO one else who could have been the fall guy for JL? His wife?! He laid this all on his wife.
This Jerk of a JL has some 'splainin to do. I'd like to see Ursula from "La Tempestad" make him do a dance Norteno style.
JL=Loser....and I hate the way he is using Alina. Wrong. Wrong in every sense of the word.
Fatima
Fabi losing her innocence to such trash and clearly when she wasn't ready to, how tragic.
He grills him like a cheeseburger, you crack me up girl.
Vivi, I loved your Mariano clearly feels more than the call of God when he hugged Oriana, lol.
I like to think that Fabiola was crying because Sebastian just wasn't that good. And I hope that Fabiola sees Sebastian being intimate with another girl so she gets the picture that he's just using her.
I don't like JL even if he didn't have much of a choice to get involved with bad people. And I'm really mad that Oriana thinks he's innocent too. Maybe she should just go off to be with him then.
Cyndi, you are such a fool for the Mariano last rites Paloma comments! I laughed so hard and could totally visual Mariano writing in his notes on Paloma the Spanish version of 'This old lady is trippin' with all these close call infartos.' I recommend you watch without CC more often. It's hilarious!
I wish Paloma and Oriana had been able to give Fabiola a clue about horny young punks before she got caught in Seb's snare. Ugh.
On the plus side, on Monday night I saw that Osvaldo de León, who played the guy in the park with the dog who rescued Oriana, is listed in the opening credits! That means he's going to have a bigger role, right?
I enjoyed the Dr's little quip that Mariano's conjuro (incantation, exorcism) probably was more responsible for Paloma's favorable and quick response rather than anything he did medically. Mariano seemed a bit nettled by the word conjuro and corrected him and then Matilde was critical of the Doc's humor later, commenting to Ruben that she thought it was disrespectful. Well, he made me smile.
I also thought it was amusing that Ricky asked Mariano's advice and he said well first we must trust in God, and Ricky snapped back that he was wanting a friend's advice not priest talk.
I know that Paloma's a key character (actually I liked her a lot at first) but her meddling is starting to annoy me enough that after her little infarct, I found myself wishing for a coma or maybe even... well, you know... something more definitive.
Carlos
But I get it in a way. Paloma feels really guilty about listening to her hubby and abandoning Palomita and blames the hard life Palomita and Ines had, and their vices, on herself, too. So, 2Nes possibly engaging in illicit hookerations, as Cyndi put it, would send Paloma's guilt into overdrive, thereby causing an infarto.
Paloma will be wrecked when she finds out about Real Ines' life. However, that's why I think it'll turn out Oriana is also her biological grandchild. It's a classic deus ex machina maneuver that would work well in this TN. The writers have left enough clues that Oriana is Palomita's daughter and knowing that she found one of Palomita's children would go a long way towards Paloma resolving her feelings of guilt as well as Oriana's guilt of stealing Real Ines' identity.
I almost thought I wasn't even going to get to see the episode, since there were 2 sports guys on the screen when I started watching on the DVR.
The staff being pissed about the car was funny. From their perspective, they'd probably love to have any car at all, much less a sweet luxury ride like that, and here she is turning it down. I imagined them thinking "Oh, I see, you don't WANT the car...rich people problems!"
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