Thursday, December 05, 2013
Mentir Para Vivir #42 Wed 12/4/13 Do they make small anvils for Chihuahuas?
Aresti Breton
Ricky, Piero, and Manriquez meet . Ricky hands Manriquez the
summons (citatorio). Manriquez
asks who or how they're planning to get a sample of Sebastian's DNA.
Piero explains the DNA tests for Ricky and him should be completed within
2 days. He also explains to Manriquez that he may not be Sebastian's
father. Manriquez then informs Ricky he may not need to present himself
in person in response to the summons because so much time has passed and the
statute of limitations has passed. Manriquez can attend to those matters
as his representative unless it's necessary for him to attend....or whoever
turns out to be Seba's daddy.
Casa de JL
It's moving day! Oriana instructs the maid to put her
suitcase in the guest room. JL sheepishly explains they're having a
little disagreement because his wife wanted a larger house.
Alina's pleased as can be with her new digs and her very own tele.
Oriana is gloomy. Alina wonders why her Papi doesn't like Tito when Tito
very clearly likes him. Oriana
explains JL just doesn't like dogs. She wearily goes to her own room and asks
the maid for a telephone directory.
Aresti Breton
Cesar explains his spiritual advisor suggested he resolve his
mommy issues before returning to the seminary. As for Fabiola, she's like
a scared little mouse. Ricky tells him he offered her a place to stay with Tia
Fidelia but MadHilda would have a cow! Paloma can't do anything in her
present condition for Fabi. To make matters worse for Fabi, Ines and Lina
have moved out. Cesar and Ruben want to take care of Fabi so that Paloma
won't worry about her. Piero comes up with the idea of asking Mariano to
finding her lodgings (alojamiento)
in some religious dwelling. Cesar reminds him Fabi is a minor. Piero thinks
they can get around that if Fabi decides to go live with her father who can
then put her in Mariano's care.
The discussion turns to Cesar's employment. Cesar makes it
very clear he doesn't wish to work in accounting. He would prefer
sketching. Piero suggests something in the creative department where they
design the fabric. Cesar likes the idea and so does Ricky. Piero
will introduce him to the head of that department. Cesar is very grateful
and promises to live up to Ricky's faith in him. Ricky asks only one favor of
him - return home. Not for his mother, but for Paloma's sake and to watch over
his sister.
Once Cesar leaves, Ricky notices Piero seems to be very interested
in Fabiola's issues. He reminds him he could be her father and she's in
love with Sebastian. Heck, he can be Seba's father!
Piero changes the subject to business matters and gives Ricky a
report showing a loss for the past three months.
Casa de JL
JL is going through Oriana's cell phone. Eliseo comes in and
he orders him to find out what Berto did with those guns! Eliseo complains
he lost track of Berto what with the move and all. JL gets frustrated
with him, telling him to go look for Berto at the hotel where his sister is
staying.
A call comes in on Oriana's phone from Ricky. Ricky's
surprised to hear JL's voice answering her phone. "This is Oriana's
cell phone and this is her husband
speaking. As of this moment you are not allowed to speak with her.
I am in the process of deleting your number because mi mujer doesn't want to have anything to do with you!"
JL releases the call and Ricky remains impactado.
JL goes to Oriana's room and finds her on the phone with the
directory open on her bed. He immediately assumes she's on the phone with el
ingeniero. Wrong! She was calling Padre Plaid who had promised to
help her find a job. JL is frustrated. He doesn't understand
why she wants to work when she doesn't need to. She never worked in Colombia.
She reminds him Alina was much younger then. She doesn't want to
sit idle. JL suggests that with the summer vacations coming up, she and Alina
can take a cruise. She counters that Alina would surely want to take Tito
and dogs aren't allowed on cruise liners. JL says he can care for Tito.
>Hah! Remember Cruella Deville?< He puts on the puppy dog eyes.
"You don't know what I went through to find you. Not a day
went by that I didn't think of you two. I want to recover my family.
I need to recover my family.
If you would only try a little. Don't do it for me -- do it for our
daughter." Oriana assures him vehemently that everything she’s done,
she's done for Alina. JL continues to pressure her. "Why don't
we give ourselves a little time to recapture what we once had and if it doesn't
work, we can each go our own way." She doesn't believe him but he
swears he is being truthful. She can't live like this, like a prisoner.
He tells her she's free to go where she pleases. She can even go
visit Padre Plaid if she wishes. He draws the line with el ingeniero.
He admits he' jealous. What if she runs into him, she asks.
Is she supposed to turn on her heel and run away like a coward?
She's a smart woman, she'll figure out a way, he's sure. Once
again he gives her the new cell phone. He's transferred all her contacts
save one, she can guess which one that is. The keys are in the car.
He has a meeting but will be back in time for dinner. He reaches
over to kiss her as though he's Ward Cleaver saying goodbye to June.
Oriana predictably brushes him aside. He's angry but he slams some
pesos on the nightstand "in case you want to buy something." He
storms out. Oriana grabs the cash and throws it across the room.
Casa del Despota
Sebastian leaves his pad but is seen by the PI who captures him on
video. He compares the image with a photo on a clipboard. >Is it
just me or does that photo look absolutely nothing like Seba? Maybe it's
an old photo. Whatever.< Once Seba drives off, the PI approaches the
apartment. The maid lets him in. He poses as a telephone company
repairman. He goes to work, putting drinking glasses and other items in
plastic bags.
Aresti Breton
Ricky gets the call from the attorney and he relays the info
to Piero: They should be able to get DNA from the glasses and cigarette
butts gathered by the PI. Ricky repeats that no matter what the DNA results are,
he doesn't plan to disown him as a Sanchez Breton nor will he withhold his
mother's inheritance. Seba will never
know about the results. For his part, Piero repeats that if the result
show he is the father, he will assume full responsibility. Ricky thanks
him but tells him it won't be necessary.
Lucina comes by and they discuss her planned visit to San Carlos.
Despite the recent activities, she still thinks it would be a good idea
to visit Manolo and tell him the whole story about Ricky's death, the smuggling
funds, TODO! Piero agrees this would incriminate JL, but would also
incriminate Oriana. Lucina tells them she knows what she's doing.
She lived in San Carlos a long time and knows everyone there. Hey,
get your mind out of the gutter, she's done a lot of charitable work, ok?
And some people owe her some favors. Even Manolo. She knew him
when he was a lowly cop and would bring his women to her hotel. She
understands a man has his needs. She doesn't readily admit they had an
affair but they remained good friends. Anyway, when the Police Chief position
was vacant, Lucina recommended him for the job. Bottom line: she trusts
Manolo and knows he'll come up with something. If he even thinks of arresting Oriana, she'll hurt
him, hurt him bad (descalabro=injure,
cause harm). She's doing all this because Oriana is a victim of this jerk
who's taking advantage of a mother's love for her child.
Minion Reports
Eliseo reports to JL that Berto and his sister are at an attorney's
office. JL wants Eliseo to continue tailing them and also to hire a PI to
follow his mujer wherever she goes.
JL’s Hotel Room
Antonio comes to JL's room to report on the investment Trejo Bonfil.
The old man's business is badly in need of funds, which works in their favor.
JL wants to replace some employees with his on minions to keep an eye on
the place or tell the old guy the truth so he won't back out at the last
minute. Antonio doesn't think that would be a good idea. The old
man is old school and most likely wouldn't want to be involved in money
laundering. But he likes the idea of positioning his own peeps in key
positions like accounting and possibly the storefront. He asks JL for
more clarification on his plans. JL explains. All the sales will go
through one company: Caribe Investment Company. They will report
that they're buying merchandise from Trejo Bonfilm who will provide the
invoices for the supposed sales. At that time, the money's been laundered
and is now clean.
Casa de Paloma
Oriana, Alina, and Tito come for a visit. Paloma is
overjoyed at their visit. Alina is a chatterbox, telling abuela all about
their house, the pool, her tele, and her video games. She invites
Paloma to vsit them. Paloma deftly gets rid of the child by telling her
to get Tito outside so he can take care of business. This allows her and
Oriana some alone time to talk. Paloma notices Oriana doesn't look happy.
Oriana tells her Alina is happy. Paloma is happy to hear Oriana
call her Abuela and tells her that everyone else still thinks she is Ines
and Alina is Lina. She asks if Ori is happy. Oriana misses
everyone. JL dotes on Alina and gives Oriana spending money. He's
nice enough. The old lady isn't buying this. She reminds Oriana
that the solution is in her hands. She knows Oriana asked Mariano about a
job and is surprised since Ori is a partner in a prestigious firm. Oriana
tells her no way would JL permit her to work there because of Ricardo's
presence. There's a knock at the door -- its Ricky. He comes in and
Oriana goes to him. They share a tender embrace without saying a word.
Just then, Alina comes back in and demands to know why he's hugging her
mother. Ruh-roh! She tells Ricky her father told her he was a bad
man. Even though he's never done anything bad to her, that's what her
father says. Paloma calls Alina to her side and says suggestively to Ricky
and Oriana: van a ver si ya puso la
puerca? (I've never heard this before but found online that it basically
means to go ahead and leave) Alina doesn’t know what she's talking about but
Paloma says she'll explain later but right now they need to talk.
Outside Oriana and Ricky discuss various topics. DNA tests
have been completed and they're awaiting the results. Antonio refused to
submit a sample and even left the firm. Ricky asks if Antonio's working
for JL. She has no idea. She asks if he's planning to warn Trejo Bonfil.
He responds that they have no proof of money laundering. She asks if
anyone knows JL's true identity. Only Piero, Mariano, and Paloma.
But he can't tell anyone else for fear of implicating her. He asks
about the new house. She tells him she's staying the guest room. She
repeats JL's yarn about giving it up if things don't work out. She doesn't
know if he's sincere. Ricky pleads with her that he doesn't want to stop
seeing her. They can meet here at Paloma's. Oriana is worried JL
will find out and begs him to forget about her. He sheds a tear as she
walks away.
Paloma has a heart to heart with Alina. She understands her
father told her Ricky is a bad guy. Ricky was mommy's novio so JL is
jealous of course. If Ricky were a bad buy does Alina think she would
allow him in her house? She’s known Ricky since he was born. She knows
he's a good man. JL didn't lie, he just doesn't know Ricky very well.
Paloma wouldn’t want Alina to stop visiting in order to avoid Ricky.
Alina doesn't want to stop coming but then asks Paloma to tell Ricky not
to come by anymore. Oriana comes back in, saying they need to leave.
Oriana says goodbye to Paloma who asks her to come again tomorrow, but
alone.
Casa de JL
Later that night, JL returns home only to find that Oriana and
Alina have already gone to bed. He looks in on Oriana (put a lock on that
door, girl!) but leaves. He looks in on Alina too and sees Tito on her
bed. Oh no! He picks up Tito and takes him out to a dog house
outside and commands him to stay. (the butler has seen all this)
Tito whimpers a little then leaves the doghouse to go wait by the door.
Alina wakes up to find Tito gone and goes looking for him.
She goes to her mom's room. They both go throughout the house
looking for him. The butler tells them he saw JL put him out in the yard.
The ruckus has awakened JL. He tells Oriana that yes, he put the
dog out. He was sleeping on Alina's bed. Dogs are not hygenic and
someone must make Alina understand that. Oriana takes Alina by the hand
to find Tito. Alina looks back at her father with a hurt look in her
eyes. Poor baby.
Bungalo Azul
They choose this moment to show a shirtless Ricky deep in thought
alone in his room. QTH?
Casa de JL
Alina confronts her dad. JL tells her dogs are dirty and
carry diseases. Alina stands by her dog, saying he’s very clean and they
always take him to the vet. JL is getting tired of discussing this.
From this day forward, the dog sleeps outside. Nothing doing, says
Alina. This is my dog, not yours! She takes her dog upstairs to her room.
JL calls after her but she doesn't stop. Oriana tells him if he
keeps this up, Alina will end up hating him and then they'll both leave.
The only reason she's here is because of Alina. JL disagrees.
The only problem here is that Alina is spoiled. What's wrong with
having the animal sleep outside? (oh no, he didn't just call Tito an animal!) Oriana
explains that Tito has slept with Alina since they brought him home.
Alina adores him. What's more, Paloma, who is very ill,
allowed him to jump on her bed to play. Ok ok, he gives in -- Tito can
sleep in Alina's bed only if ORIANA RETURNS TO HIS BED! What!? What
a tool! She sees he's turned into a really ugly person. He
complains that he's lost what's most important to him -- his family.
She tells him he had no reason to get involved in crime. He repeats
he did it for them, to give them a better life. When Oriana notes they
had a good life, he shakes her and says they didn't live as they deserved to.
Oriana goes upstairs, leaving him to sulk.
Oriana goes to Alina's room. She's sitting up in bed, still
upset and wondering why her father did what he did. JL comes in next and
apologizes to Alina, saying he just thought she'd be more comfortable without
Tito. He agrees that Tito can stay. Alina asks Oriana to sleep with
her tonight. JL reaches over to kiss Alina but she turns her face away.
JL leaves, angry and frustrated.
JL returns to his office for a drink. While he' there he
gets an e-mail informing him that the charges against Oriana have been dropped.
The supporting document is attached.
Lila’s Hotel
Eliseo is waiting outside but neither Berto nor Lila are seen.
Inside, brother and sister are arguing. She wants him to get rid of
the guns. Berto doesn’t know where he can hide them. He certainly
can't hide them at Lucina's hotel where they're sure to be found. She doesn’t
care what he does with them and he shouldn't involve her in his shenanigans.
She didn't ask him to kill Gabriel! Berto complains that he only did
it for her. She screams at him. He only did this for himself.
He had always lived off of Gabriel and off of her! Fine, he says,
he'll get rid of the guns if only to get her to stop with the drama. She
reminds him they have an appointment with the attorneys at Ricky's office
tomorrow morning. They'll let him in if he's with her. He tells her
that one day she'll regret not having helped him. Yeah, well, she doesn't
think so bro.
Outside, Eliseo sees Berto leave with a bundle under his jacket.
He gives chase and follows him back to the Hotel Casa Bonita.
Casa de JL the following
morning
Alina is all dressed up for a special ceremony at school today.
JL tries to make nice with her but she's totally ignoring him even after
he picks her up. Oriana turns him down for dinner since they’re having
snacks at the school. She instructs the maid to let Tito out in the yard
but to be very careful to make sure
the gate is closed, lest he escape. ruh-roh!!!!
JL offers to go with them. Oriana sends Alina with the maid
out to the car and then asks JL just exactly how is he planning to explain
himself at the school? He has a different last name and Alina knows his
name is JL. JL figures they've got to come up with a plan. While
he's thinking about it, Oriana will go to the school and then has plans to
visit with Paloma. This doesn't make him happy. He grabs her and
accuses her of going there to meet up with el ingeniero.
Psych Ward
Ricky and Piero meet with the doc. The results are in and,
just as we thought, neither of these men is the father. Ricky's in a daze and
Piero looks as though a huge weight has been lifted from his shoulders.
Alina's School
Lame recital by the children. Of all the men in Alina's
life, only Mariano is present.
Trejo Bonfil Textiles
JL meets with the old man and lays out his propiosal. He
tells him Caribe Investment has agreed to invest in the company in return for
60% of the company. The old guy balks but JL tells him there's no other
way.
Aresti Breton
Ricky, Piero and Manriquez meet to discuss the DNA results.
Piero assumes Antonio is most likely Seba's father. Manriquez
points out it could also be someone else. Given Maria’s past, that is
possible, says Ricky. Bottom line, these results void out Benigno's claim
against Ricky and because the statute of limitations have expired, so
have the sexual abuse charges. Wait a minute, says Ricky.
That would mean there would be no consequences for Antonio either right?
The only responsibility Antonio would face would be to give Sebastian his
name, says Manriquez. Absolutely not says Ricky. Sebastian will
continue to be a Sanchez Breton but Antonio must know he is the father (without
a DNA test?)
Avances
Shots fired at Hotel Casa Bonita!
JL attacks Oriana!
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Thanks Paquita! This is a great succinct recap. I knew JL was no good; and his treatment of Tito, like how Matilde treated him--that he was unhygienic--is the big tell. I'm not a big dog lover either--I had dogs as a child but they were put in the yard in their own doghouse--but in this tn anyone who disdains Tito is basically a bad person.
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: Thursday, December 5, 2013 at 4:30:00 AM EST
: Thursday, December 5, 2013 at 4:30:00 AM EST
Paquita- LOL at your title. JL learned last night that he is lower on the totem pole than Tito is, and I think he might just arrange for the little guy to go missing.
I never grew up with animals, but I know you don't criticize how a dog owner treats their dog, unless they are mistreating them. I've also only seen big dogs sleep in outdoor dog houses, not little lap dogs like Tito.
It's only been a few days, but JL's jealousy and possesiveness are already rearing their ugly head. Having Ori followed too. How long before he tells her the charges against her have been dropped?
I never grew up with animals, but I know you don't criticize how a dog owner treats their dog, unless they are mistreating them. I've also only seen big dogs sleep in outdoor dog houses, not little lap dogs like Tito.
It's only been a few days, but JL's jealousy and possesiveness are already rearing their ugly head. Having Ori followed too. How long before he tells her the charges against her have been dropped?
Oh, and WTH with JL telling the maid that Ori is in a snit and won't sleep in the same bedroom because he didn't buy her a bigger house! Notice how his lies always throw blame on someone else, and away from him, where it belongs.
Did anyone else have flashbacks to ENDA when JL removed Tito from Alina's bed? That poor child and that poor little dog.
So neither Ricardo nor Piero is the sperm donor for Sebastian. Not that this surprises me. There are going to be consequences for this.
JL is seriously delusional and I think he's on the edge of the deep end. There is no world (except the cinematic Italian Mafia) in which criminal activity can lead to a better life for one's family. In view of his actions there is no way Oriana will forgive JL, so no matter what he was like before she can't possibly feel the same way about him anymore.
So neither Ricardo nor Piero is the sperm donor for Sebastian. Not that this surprises me. There are going to be consequences for this.
JL is seriously delusional and I think he's on the edge of the deep end. There is no world (except the cinematic Italian Mafia) in which criminal activity can lead to a better life for one's family. In view of his actions there is no way Oriana will forgive JL, so no matter what he was like before she can't possibly feel the same way about him anymore.
Thank you, Paquita. This is a great recap and filled in the gaps when I dozed. So much for trying to stay up and watch at 10. Better to watch on line the next day!
And the Oscar goes, once again, to Tito. I LOVE your title. Lots of foreshadowing here, I fear.
Lucina's warnings about men like JL are certainly coming true. It does seem like JL's role in the organization has grown or changed since their time in Colombia. He operates like a major crime figure now, something Oriana might have picked up on in their earlier life.
The scene at the school was very sweet. Alina is a tough little girl, better able to defend herself and her interests and handle change than Oriana gives her credit for.
Is a minor in Mexico considered to be under 21? Or 18? The Piero/Fabiola link is sweet but does seem a little creepy. I appreciated everyone's thoughts on this yesterday.
And the Oscar goes, once again, to Tito. I LOVE your title. Lots of foreshadowing here, I fear.
Lucina's warnings about men like JL are certainly coming true. It does seem like JL's role in the organization has grown or changed since their time in Colombia. He operates like a major crime figure now, something Oriana might have picked up on in their earlier life.
The scene at the school was very sweet. Alina is a tough little girl, better able to defend herself and her interests and handle change than Oriana gives her credit for.
Is a minor in Mexico considered to be under 21? Or 18? The Piero/Fabiola link is sweet but does seem a little creepy. I appreciated everyone's thoughts on this yesterday.
According to Wikipedia, it's 18. Otherwise Monserrat in LQLVMR would have to be older than 19.
What I wonder about is whether Mexico has different minimum ages for things like alcohol consumption, smoking, military service, etc. like we do.
What I wonder about is whether Mexico has different minimum ages for things like alcohol consumption, smoking, military service, etc. like we do.
Thank you for the awesome recap, Paquita.
Most of the world has 18 as the age when you're no longer a minor - I don't know why the US keeps the 21 years old age limit for drinking, but you can drive a car at 16!!!
Poor Tito...he's not in Paloma's house anymore, huh?
I hope Rhodalina sets her eyes on daddy as her next target... ahem...
Most of the world has 18 as the age when you're no longer a minor - I don't know why the US keeps the 21 years old age limit for drinking, but you can drive a car at 16!!!
Poor Tito...he's not in Paloma's house anymore, huh?
I hope Rhodalina sets her eyes on daddy as her next target... ahem...
Paquita - Terrific recap. Thanks for the explanation of Paloma's "puerca" line.
I love that Tito will be JL's undoing, hopefully. I'm a big dog lover and always had one, but not sleeping on my bed. But each to his own.
JL is mal, but Alina, who's one of my favorites, *is* spoiled. At that age, especially since Ori gave Alina her way, I would've made up with my dad in the morning. That said, anything that brings JL down is good.
Sure hope Fabiola has no romantic interest in Piero. She doesn't need a 30-something filled with regret about his own teen years. Glad Ricky pointed out how inappropriate and old Piero is.
I love that Tito will be JL's undoing, hopefully. I'm a big dog lover and always had one, but not sleeping on my bed. But each to his own.
JL is mal, but Alina, who's one of my favorites, *is* spoiled. At that age, especially since Ori gave Alina her way, I would've made up with my dad in the morning. That said, anything that brings JL down is good.
Sure hope Fabiola has no romantic interest in Piero. She doesn't need a 30-something filled with regret about his own teen years. Glad Ricky pointed out how inappropriate and old Piero is.
That adorable little girl is going to become a spoiled princess. Madre shouldn't disagree w/ padre in front of the child. Not good at all. What little dog wouldn't be happy with his own doggie house and a grass back yard?
Permalink posted by : Thursday, December 5, 2013 at 12:56:00 PM EST
: Thursday, December 5, 2013 at 12:56:00 PM EST
Thanks so much Paquita for your recap. I really hope your prediction for our beloved Tito is false.
I'm really concerned about Oriana not being honest about JL to those close to her. Her consistent claims that he isn't violent doesn't jive with how he keeps threatening her; that's a form of verbal abuse which is violence.
Vivi - ITA w/you regarding JL. He's so slimy with no sense of his own responsibility.
Yes Alina is spoiled though some of it is b/c of Oriana's guilt about having to flee Colombia. I cringed when she ask Pal to not invite Ricky to the house.
I'm really concerned about Oriana not being honest about JL to those close to her. Her consistent claims that he isn't violent doesn't jive with how he keeps threatening her; that's a form of verbal abuse which is violence.
Vivi - ITA w/you regarding JL. He's so slimy with no sense of his own responsibility.
Yes Alina is spoiled though some of it is b/c of Oriana's guilt about having to flee Colombia. I cringed when she ask Pal to not invite Ricky to the house.
Great job Paquita!
I think Ori's life is getting worse with JL. They have already argued, and it won't be a good pattern for Lina, if it continues. Lina thinks Ricky is the bad guy, but JL earned a bad point with Tito. Az least he bought a dog house for Tito, but in my opinion, Tito sleeping with Lina isn't a too big problem. Small, smart, clean, healthy dog. I have an old lady friend, who has slept with 2 dogs since years, and one of them is huge, and she didn't get sick from them. They are very well-kept animals.
I thought the same as J desde NYC, JL is like Maddy. They don't like the animals. Further thinking it, they might be a good pair, haha.
:D :D
I loved the meeting of Ori and Ricardo at Aresti house with their body/face language, and the scene was so great when Lina appeared. Before I thought they will kiss, but they just hugged each other. It was exactly right.
I think Ori's life is getting worse with JL. They have already argued, and it won't be a good pattern for Lina, if it continues. Lina thinks Ricky is the bad guy, but JL earned a bad point with Tito. Az least he bought a dog house for Tito, but in my opinion, Tito sleeping with Lina isn't a too big problem. Small, smart, clean, healthy dog. I have an old lady friend, who has slept with 2 dogs since years, and one of them is huge, and she didn't get sick from them. They are very well-kept animals.
I thought the same as J desde NYC, JL is like Maddy. They don't like the animals. Further thinking it, they might be a good pair, haha.
:D :D
I loved the meeting of Ori and Ricardo at Aresti house with their body/face language, and the scene was so great when Lina appeared. Before I thought they will kiss, but they just hugged each other. It was exactly right.
Permalink posted by : Thursday, December 5, 2013 at 2:59:00 PM EST
: Thursday, December 5, 2013 at 2:59:00 PM EST
Thank you Paquita, especially for the Antnio and JL convo. Business stuff always goes over my head. I'm also thankful for the "puerco" explanation.
Others have already said it, but if this were a normal family situation, Lina would be very spoiled and bratty...but since she's acting this way with JL I am totally fine with it.
Others have already said it, but if this were a normal family situation, Lina would be very spoiled and bratty...but since she's acting this way with JL I am totally fine with it.
Oh, sorry I forgot something.
Like Jardinera, I had a theory about Pi and Fab...but it got shot to heck with the DNA results.
Like Jardinera, I had a theory about Pi and Fab...but it got shot to heck with the DNA results.
Seriously, I don't think that not allowing a dog to come in the house or sleep in the bed with you makes you a bad person.
He let the Tito lie in the bed with her until she went to sleep and then he put him out in a dog house. How is that bad.
On the other hand, ordering a hit on Berto...makes him a bad person.
Cynderella
He let the Tito lie in the bed with her until she went to sleep and then he put him out in a dog house. How is that bad.
On the other hand, ordering a hit on Berto...makes him a bad person.
Cynderella
I don't think JL is a and person because he put Tito outside in the yard. I grew up in a culture that does that and I still believe in that. Dogs are companion animals but I played and rough-housed with mine in the yard after school and in the summer-she was named Trixie-but immediately afterwards I had to shower, change clothes and wash up when I went into the house. The dogs weren't allowed at all in my family's home--we fed them the leftovers from our meals through a side door. We basically treated dogs as guards/protectors then companions, but felt they shouldn't be in human living areas. We never kissed them or allowed them to lick us, only petted/patted them to show affection.
However, the writing in this novela is clear that Tito is basically the best est dog ever, and he is small, and quiet, so to not like him/banish him from Alina's side, the same Matilde did, is choreographing JL as a two faced bad person. Also, the point of getting Tito in the first place was to allow Alina to adjust in her new life at Paloma's. It was a sign that she and Ori had finally settled down comfortably after the initial drama in their lives that JL precipitated. Even if one thinks dogs shouldn,t be in human living areas for hygiene sake, the fact that JL didn't,t think that that Tito is gonna help Lina acclimate to the new house is troubling since it's obvious he's not tthinking about Lina's tranquility. After a few months, Lina would move on from Tito and not need him so close by. But she does now given all the upheaval in her life.
I think Lina has been spoiled since JL showed up and started telling her lies. That's when she started to change. Lina was very respectful while she was at Paloma's. I remember her visit with Paloma when she was recovering from the infarto. She didn't try and pull her 'I'm the cute bisnieta' card on Matilde who was stopping her from visiting; she expressed love amd concern about Paloma's health and madesure not to bring Tito around Paloma so he wouldn't bark and disturb her. Lina was doing great until JL brainwashed her at the Kids Burger.
And Oriana agreeing to go back to JL for her daughter when it's clear that she has no feelings for JL was a bad idea. All that's gonna happen is Lina is gonna see two parents who
dislike each other fighting.
However, the writing in this novela is clear that Tito is basically the best est dog ever, and he is small, and quiet, so to not like him/banish him from Alina's side, the same Matilde did, is choreographing JL as a two faced bad person. Also, the point of getting Tito in the first place was to allow Alina to adjust in her new life at Paloma's. It was a sign that she and Ori had finally settled down comfortably after the initial drama in their lives that JL precipitated. Even if one thinks dogs shouldn,t be in human living areas for hygiene sake, the fact that JL didn't,t think that that Tito is gonna help Lina acclimate to the new house is troubling since it's obvious he's not tthinking about Lina's tranquility. After a few months, Lina would move on from Tito and not need him so close by. But she does now given all the upheaval in her life.
I think Lina has been spoiled since JL showed up and started telling her lies. That's when she started to change. Lina was very respectful while she was at Paloma's. I remember her visit with Paloma when she was recovering from the infarto. She didn't try and pull her 'I'm the cute bisnieta' card on Matilde who was stopping her from visiting; she expressed love amd concern about Paloma's health and madesure not to bring Tito around Paloma so he wouldn't bark and disturb her. Lina was doing great until JL brainwashed her at the Kids Burger.
And Oriana agreeing to go back to JL for her daughter when it's clear that she has no feelings for JL was a bad idea. All that's gonna happen is Lina is gonna see two parents who
dislike each other fighting.
Permalink posted by : Thursday, December 5, 2013 at 4:12:00 PM EST
: Thursday, December 5, 2013 at 4:12:00 PM EST
Great job Paquita, and thanks for the odd saying translation. All languages have some odd to translate sayings that often don't make literal sense. If I think of an English one, I'll add it.
We can agree or disagree about whether Tito should be in or out, and if Alina is spoiled or not spoiled, but if JL wants to endear his family to him, this is not the way to do it. Once his family is established and settled in, then go ahead and work of these issues. But it's way too soon yet to try it.
In the US, you can go off to war and fight for your country, but you can't have a beer at the end of a hard day on the front lines.
We can agree or disagree about whether Tito should be in or out, and if Alina is spoiled or not spoiled, but if JL wants to endear his family to him, this is not the way to do it. Once his family is established and settled in, then go ahead and work of these issues. But it's way too soon yet to try it.
In the US, you can go off to war and fight for your country, but you can't have a beer at the end of a hard day on the front lines.
Choreographimg should be telegraphing
Permalink posted by : Thursday, December 5, 2013 at 4:13:00 PM EST
: Thursday, December 5, 2013 at 4:13:00 PM EST
I really don't think there's a right or wrong answer to the dog in the bed thing. Some people love it, others don't think it's healthy. I've never had a dog. I don't have an opinion.
The problem is JL's attitude. He just barely got Ori and Lina into the same house, using blackmail (after he's the one who blew up their former home life), and he wants to be king of the domain. He wants everything his way, right now, and everyone to act the way he wants. Sorry, buster. You lost your vote when you made your family go on the run from the police and the mob.
The problem is JL's attitude. He just barely got Ori and Lina into the same house, using blackmail (after he's the one who blew up their former home life), and he wants to be king of the domain. He wants everything his way, right now, and everyone to act the way he wants. Sorry, buster. You lost your vote when you made your family go on the run from the police and the mob.
Thanks for this sterling recap, Paquita. Very well done.
As for dogs indoors and even in the bed, as long as the dogs are well-behaved, reasonably clean, and there are no allergies involved, I see no medical contraindication. Certainly personal preferences and cultural and religious considerations must be honored, but dogs and humans share very few pathogens. Actually, Lina, as a human child, presents more of a potential health threat to Paloma than Tito.
It looks as though we're about to lose one of my personal favorites... Berto. He's a rather terrible person, not to mention scroungy looking, but I like the way he defiantly stands up to JL and I find him to be very entertaining in an icky sort of way. Apparently JL doesn't share my amusement and admiration. I guess he's got his hands full scuzzing things up in Agua Azul as Adolfo (LQLVMR).
Carlos
As for dogs indoors and even in the bed, as long as the dogs are well-behaved, reasonably clean, and there are no allergies involved, I see no medical contraindication. Certainly personal preferences and cultural and religious considerations must be honored, but dogs and humans share very few pathogens. Actually, Lina, as a human child, presents more of a potential health threat to Paloma than Tito.
It looks as though we're about to lose one of my personal favorites... Berto. He's a rather terrible person, not to mention scroungy looking, but I like the way he defiantly stands up to JL and I find him to be very entertaining in an icky sort of way. Apparently JL doesn't share my amusement and admiration. I guess he's got his hands full scuzzing things up in Agua Azul as Adolfo (LQLVMR).
Carlos
Gracias, Paquita.
JL is such an overbearing controlling creep. I hope Oriana either moves out or puts a lock on her bedroom door. Personally, I am not a huge fan of dogs and would never let one sleep in the bed with me (the smell of dogs really bothers me, even when they are clean), but if Lina wants the dog in her bed and her mother has no problem with it, then he should let it go. His throwing the dog outside was just to make sure we know that he is steamrolling his wife and daughter and insists on having everything his way.
I have read that kids who grow up with furry pets or live on farms and are in the dirt and around animals all the time actually have lower rates of respiratory illnesses and allergies, so JL's logic is bunk.
Personally, I hope he continues in this jerky behavior so spoiled Lina will want to get out. Oriana should have just told her absolutely no way would they live together. It's not like she doesn't already know something is wrong with their lives, after the sudden moves and the lies.
How does Ricardo still seem to be under the impression that Fabi loves Sebastian? I guess I wasn't paying close enough attention. Did Piero sugarcoat the rape story that much, or does Ricardo just not think it's that big a deal? I wish Fab would tell someone more caring and competent what actually happened. Oriana's condom advice was well-intentioned but not at all what was needed.
JL is such an overbearing controlling creep. I hope Oriana either moves out or puts a lock on her bedroom door. Personally, I am not a huge fan of dogs and would never let one sleep in the bed with me (the smell of dogs really bothers me, even when they are clean), but if Lina wants the dog in her bed and her mother has no problem with it, then he should let it go. His throwing the dog outside was just to make sure we know that he is steamrolling his wife and daughter and insists on having everything his way.
I have read that kids who grow up with furry pets or live on farms and are in the dirt and around animals all the time actually have lower rates of respiratory illnesses and allergies, so JL's logic is bunk.
Personally, I hope he continues in this jerky behavior so spoiled Lina will want to get out. Oriana should have just told her absolutely no way would they live together. It's not like she doesn't already know something is wrong with their lives, after the sudden moves and the lies.
How does Ricardo still seem to be under the impression that Fabi loves Sebastian? I guess I wasn't paying close enough attention. Did Piero sugarcoat the rape story that much, or does Ricardo just not think it's that big a deal? I wish Fab would tell someone more caring and competent what actually happened. Oriana's condom advice was well-intentioned but not at all what was needed.
Oriana isn't only living with JL for Alina. They made a deal. Living together in exchange for getting her cleared of the embezzlement charges. And if she follows Lucina's advice, then she'd leave him. I think he's trying to get the guns so that he can hold that over her head, after he shows that he kept his end of the deal to clear her name in Colombia. He knows Alina is not enough reason for Ori to stay with him.
I know that's part of her reasoning, but I don't see how she trusts him to keep his end of the bargain. Maybe just because she hasn't seen as much of what he's done as we have...but the chances he'll do what he agreed to seem super slim, so tiny that it doesn't even seem worth trying.
But he did do it. That's the email he got. The question is, when will he tell her? My guess, not till he has the guns to hold over her head.
Was that all he needed to do? I guess I am not following her legal problems very closely anymore. Is she totally free and clear now, or is she still potentially in trouble if he changes his mind or because of the false identity thing?
I thought the document was forged/otherwise useless. I definitely need clarification. Lol. I admit that I haven't paid close attention the last two weeks.
JL's plan was to use his contacts to bribe/convince/whatever folks in the police in Colombia to declare the bank signature a forgery, thereby clearing Ori of the charges. She demanded that he provide her with legal/official documentation that the charges had been dropped, and that's the document JL printed after reading the email that said the charges had been dropped.
Sara- The original document was not forged. Ricky's lawyer found that out. JL tricked her into signing it. That's why it required some slight of hand to get her cleared. Ricky offered to go down there and bribe whoever he had to, but Ori did not want him to get his hands dirty. Since JL is already dirty, it doesn't matter.
Julia- She still has the murder charge over her head, hence the importance of the guns. And I guess if Mati found out the truth, she could have her charged with identity theft (Lila would also do this), despite Paloma not caring about that.
Thanks Vivi! I knew JL had tricked her to get her signature. I wonder which lady will find out first: Madi or Lila.
Oriana screwed up big time moving in with JL. Wolves never change. The scary part is the damage to her little girl. She is learning how to lie and manipulate. In the end the sacrifice won't be worth it.
Thanks Paquita. Awesome recap.
The lawyer can acquire Antonia's DNA the same way he got Sab. Those two deserve each other.
Hanna
Thanks Paquita. Awesome recap.
The lawyer can acquire Antonia's DNA the same way he got Sab. Those two deserve each other.
Hanna
Permalink posted by : Thursday, December 5, 2013 at 7:02:00 PM EST
: Thursday, December 5, 2013 at 7:02:00 PM EST
I still hold out for the possibility that Benigno could be the father of Sebastian. He's her stepfather, not her father, and he's a slimeball.
I think that is entirely possible. I think it's weird that Benigno actually took care of Maria even before she was his cash cow (or at least was her guardian and provided her with the basic necessities), but seemingly had no interest whatsoever in knowing his supposed grandson.
It would also explain why he doesn't seem to have been angry at Ricardo: if any scapegoat was available to take the heat, Benigno would be his biggest fan! Whereas a more normal reaction would be for him to be furious at whatever punk took advantage of his stepdaughter.
Gracias, Paquita! I'm doing some last minute catching-up before tonight. I'm thinking Tito's days are numbered...he has no sense of self preservation! He didn't even make a peep when JL picked him up.
I'm watching tonight's episode as I type, but just wanted to make a quick drive by post.
UA, yes, I did actually think of ENDA during last nights episode. I literally was like "Oh no. Is JL gonna pull a Carlota and kill Tito." He very well could still do it.
I do hope the man that JL/FC made the business deal with doesn't end up broke and lose his company.
Looks like Oriana's nightmare has begun.
--TF
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UA, yes, I did actually think of ENDA during last nights episode. I literally was like "Oh no. Is JL gonna pull a Carlota and kill Tito." He very well could still do it.
I do hope the man that JL/FC made the business deal with doesn't end up broke and lose his company.
Looks like Oriana's nightmare has begun.
--TF
Permalink posted by : Thursday, December 5, 2013 at 11:24:00 PM EST
: Thursday, December 5, 2013 at 11:24:00 PM EST
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