Monday, May 19, 2014
Lo Que la Vida Me Robó #134, Lunes, 5/19/14
Labels: robo
Does anyone else think that within the next two episodes Monse will tell JL not to give Gracie any dinero?
After JL lit into Montse for not being at their wedding reception and him not letting her explain until the end of his rant, all I could think of was what hell Montse's life has been. Yikes!
Loved Demitrio's lack of reaction to Graciela's tale of her brush with death.
Just when you think Pedro can't be any more twisted and sick, he has something else up his sleeve. He was so cheerful and nonchalant in his dismissal of Amelia.
Urban, I sure hope that Montse puts the brakes on JL giving Graciela any more money. It would seem that she would be in the right emotionsl state for that kind of decision.
Jarifa
When Monse finds out that Alejandro is alive and JL knew all hell is going to break loose.
I also liked Dimitrio's indifference about Gracie's story. I'm sure she didn't bother explaining that the gun was a fake, but Monse will tell him that when she has the chance. He won't be surprised.
I dearly hope Amelia survives this to find out Pedro's dirty secret.
If Pedro does not survive this tn, he must live through the town and state knowing about his "condition" and all his dirt deals.
You and Jarifa have it right on Montse stopping JL giving money to Gracie. I wonder what she's going to do to Fabs to get revenge?
Whether that sticks or not, Fabiola has cooked her own goose with respect to JL.
What avances were shown on Univision?
Loved how Fab gracefully left the room,leaving a fake toy behind and called Monse and Gracie a pair of idiots!
I also adored when Dim completely ignored Gracies pleas.The Witch still expects happy family hugs after she has done so much damage to her family? Next!
Kudos to the women tonight! Gracie was at her melodramtic best facing down the cutting (not shooting) Fabiola. Loved the way Montse circled her mother, out of reach, and refused to bandy words with her. Just did her own cutting and left the building.
Amelia was calm and strong. Urban, you gave us a superb word picture: "Amelia took this pronouncement with all the dignity of a imperial Roman matron being cast aside by a mad emperor husband."
Dimi was strong as well, also refusing to fall in with Mommy dearest's manipulations. His attitude there may give Cap. Monica something to think about.
Thanks for the recap. And for putting it up so quickly.
I was so glad that Montse didn't fall for any of Gracie's BS. I was hoping for a slap or finger punch from Montse to Gracie, but Montse took the high road. Montse has more class than Gracie ever thought she had.
JL's reaction to Montse leaving the wedding was a shock to everyone but Rosario and Amelia. Rosario knew he had a dark side, and Amelia warned us (when JL had been released from prison) that JL was a changed man. Of course WE all know that that reaction was because JL thought Montse found out about Ale being alive. I wonder how JL will react when he finds out that Montse came back so upset because she had just found out that Gracie testified against Ale. That is not going to sit well with JL. It didn't bother JL to talk about Ale, and how he was Laurito's father and how Montse would always love him before he found out that Ale was still alive. But now that JL knows Ale is alive, the tables have turned. Any mention of Ale is going to set him off. And if he is not careful, people, especially Montse and Rosario, are going to take notice and wonder why JL has had this sudden change of attitude when it comes to talking about or mentioning Ale.
About Montse telling JL not to give Gracie money. Montse doesn't know about Gracie's monthly allowance from JL. If she did, I think she would have tried to put a stop to it. JL is an idiot for making that deal with Gracie. I thought he was smarter than that.
Jarifa, UA, Demetrios & La Paloma,
ITA with what you all said about Dimi ignoring Gracie's crocodile tears. He has wised up over the years when it comes to his mother. It was awesome to see him stand his ground. Good for Dimi. I wonder if he's going to tell Monica something after she told Dimi to comfort his mother. Will he tell her to but out? I don't think Monica should have said anything. She does not know Gracie well enough. And just because Gracie is Dimi's mother doesn't mean she hasn't hurt Dimi. I think Monica stepped over the line, but I will give her a pass. She doesn't know the real Gracie yet.
Urban,
The avances on Univision showed a rehash of some scenes from Monday's epi. Plus Gracie telling JL if he doesn't want to loose Montse, to get her pregnant ASAP. Also, Gracie greets Ale at the door to Montse's house. Ale asks to speak to Montse.
Back to paying bills...hasta pronto!
Some of my favorites,
"Amelia took this pronouncement with all the dignity of a imperial Roman matron being cast aside by a mad emperor husband."
And about Amelia, "She quashed a desire to wipe her mouth with a table napkin as he walked away."
About Monse, who "...looked at her with an expression Catherine Deneuve would have been proud of."
Yes, it was the day from H*ll for Monse. I can't help but think some of what she's going through comes from trying to make everyone happy.
She never really seemed like she was particularly anxious to marry JL-and yet she went along with it.
No good deed goes unpunished in this story.
No matter how he reacts to it JL should be told about Gracie's perjury. It's a repeat of her actions when she and Dimitrio framed him for the murder of Bruno at the outset of this tale and it's a clear picture of what he could expect if he ever ends up suddenly poor. If he still intends to take Pedro down it's also evidence.
It is most unfortunate that Gracie is even allowed to enter Monserrat's house. She will have Alejandro arrested, you can count on that.
It is the law in Mexico that the loss of Alejandro's name nullified his marriage to Monserrat. Marriage is primarily a civil contract in Mexico and a false name (regardless of the type of false) nullifies a contract. That it was executed in good faith doesn't count because the religious ceremony doesn't count as a legal ceremony as it does in the US.
Monserrat didn't have the time to make the decision because the nullification of his identity was immediately followed with a warrant for his arrest for the murder of Benjamin Almonte. We know she would have married him again without his money or his identity and there was likely no legal impediment to that. It probably, however, would have been delayed and no delays were possible under the circumstances.
She never would have married JL without having believed that Alejandro was dead. She shouldn't have agreed to it, of course, and had Josefina told her of her discovery she wouldn't have.
The only highlight last night was watching Monse and Dim still not fall for Graceless' antics. The rest...
We know Pedo is a jerk and he stays consistent. Frankly, I was actually relieved that is all he did, moving Amelia out of his house with a thanks for the memories. I thought we would see worse.
But of course, most of our night is watching the petulant child. WTH was that?? I'm sorry, we have to watch this woman deal with another he-man ranting and raving declaring his undying jealousy? That was bordering on psychotic and threatening. When he stuffed that cake in his mouth, short of an anvil landing on his head, I wanted Monse to walk up to him, slap him across the face ( as we know AB can do well) and tell him in her most sarcastic voice" Thank you for letting me explain myself. But I don't need this, I don't need you. Been there done this with the jealousy." and then as she walked away turn coquettishly and say " Oh, and by the way I had a gun pointed at my head if you care. So excuse me if I'd like to go hug my son instead of you."
I'll stop ranting. Just hated everything about all of that scene with those two.
The thought that she caved and they got all lovey and more than likely we have to deal with a honeymoon scene tonight...thank goodness there's hockey and baseball on tonight.
Daisynjay
On the subject of Pedro, he always sees the law as he pleases. His marriage to Amelia is legal on its face as it was executed in legal good faith. There was reasonably certainty at the time that Nadia was dead and the law would still recognize his marriage to Amelia.
Its lack of consummation, however, would give her legal grounds for annulment.
The law now recognizes Monserrat's marriage to JL as legal, but if she declines to consummate it she would be in the same position as Amelia.
When JL destroyed the cake he lost me completely. Monserrat should have taken that as a bad omen. We know Rosario will.
"Fabiola had been shooting in the dark. Without realizing it she had hit the right target" and "She quashed a desire to wipe her mouth with a table napkin as he walked away" were among my many favorites but as La Paloma pointed out "Amelia took this pronouncement with all the dignity of a imperial Roman matron being cast aside by a mad emperor husband" was fantastic.
I thought this was one of the most depressing episodes thus far (which is saying quite a bit).
I am still reeling from everything that occurred, particularly JL's continuing metamorphasis into a jealous, seething, controlling monster. I am beyond upset that the writers have chosen to go this route to a character that was initially noble, loyal, kind and caring. Keeping JL's admirable qualities intact would have made for a far more intriguing storyline than to simply make him a dark, loathsome character. "Like it or not, you are going to live up to your vow. You will be faithful to me until one of us dies". Sigh. I suppose we should now realize how wonderful Ale is and root for he and Monse to be blissfully together. Blech.
"You're in the way. And I don't need you. Nor do I want you at my side.” Pedro – intolerable cruelty.
The comments are excellent today -I enjoyed every single one.
Diana
Yikes...JL's temper tantrum and drinking...disappointing and scary. What a way to end a party...and the band was so good. que lastima. . As in real life, people can wear a mask to get what they want. I do not like where this is going. Mony has endured and been controlled and manipulated by the hissyfits of Gracie , then, Ale, and now JL. I would like to see her end up with someone calm and collected.,,but I know that she is destined by telenovela law to end up with Ale eventually.
"However [Graciela] grieved over her real loss, the ability to manipulate her daughter."
La Paloma, I really savored your comment today, especially this line:
"Gracie was at her melodramtic best facing down the cutting (not shooting) Fabiola"
Daisynjay, I was also relieved that Amelia got out of there alive.
I thought Mónica stumbled twice: once when she nudged Dim to give his mother a hug; and once when she overdid the possessive novia bit just to rub Fina's nose in it. I don't think this kind of stuff buys longevity in a relationship, especially when your novio is still in love with another woman.
Urban, pedo means 'fart.' I called Pedro by that name in an earlier recap. I guess it resonated [heh heh] for some of us.
Just wait until Montserrat finds out he KNEW Alejandro was stilll alive when he pushed her into this hasty and accursed marriage.
I don't think Monica was quite out of line. She doesn't know all the crap there is to know about Gracie. Dim needs to tell her more although I'm sure he finds it embarrassing.
Thanks so much for this fantastic recap, I missed the show last night and now I'm kind of glad I did, for the JL scenes that is.
It's like deja vu with JL and Ale. Ale was not nice on his wedding day with Monse either. I'm glad that Fina is reigning Ale in, cause if Ale is seen by Peddy, it won't be pretty.
Vic going to Peddy's was a bad idea too. And speaking of Peddy, how in the world is he going to pull off Nadia being back? Hey, my wife was dead, but I found her alive! I can't wait to hear his explanation for this.
I too am very glad that Monse and Dimi gave Graceless the cold shoulder. Graceless deserves this and so much more.
I went from being angry at JL, to feeling sorry for him, to being in the mood for some hot makeup sex. Guzman nailed his scenes. I don't give JL a pass for hiding the truth about Ale cause he is totally conscious of what he's doing. But his fear that Monse won't love him like she used to [of course, she won't] and all the booze he drank made him act like a perfect a$$, and I'm giving him a pass on that. At least JL still had the good sense to have Rosario take Laurito home before he really went off the bend.
And, etiquette-wise, what does a bride or groom do when the new spouse appears to have abandoned them before the wedding cake slicing? In La Tempestad, the bride got drunk and danced wildly with the handsome guests.
But Monse needs to get an annulment. She spent all her adult life sacrificing to make other adults feel safe and secure. Time to stop.
After Angélica, I wondered if I'd have anyone to root for. Thought it would be Fina, but instead it's Amelia and Nadia. For all her self-improvement over seven years and the way she's dispensing advice to Ale, you'd think she'd realize she’s still in love with Dim.
He had to have declared Nadia legally dead in order to marry Amelia six or seven years ago. Otherwise it takes seven years (in most places) for someone to be recognized as such. Since the action was brought based on a reasonable assumption that Nadia was dead, Pedro didn't commit a crime doing so and Amelia is still legally married to him.
Pedro's crime was marrying Nadia under false pretenses in the first place and treating her like garbage, culminating in his orders to shoot her and Victor dead. They had committed no crime he could prosecute them for. Ezekiel could probably have gotten him on this.
One more question on another subject: If Gracie had inherited Benjamin's estate, how do you think she would have tried to explain this to Lauro?
Wow! Thanks so much for the really amazing, well-written, and thoroughly engaging recap with amazing screen shots, too. I didn't get to watch last night, but I don't even feel the need to since your recap was so detailed and satisfying.
Mads: ITA about Pedro and how in the world is he going to explain Nadia. I get that he wants revenge on Nadia for leaving him and this is part of his motivation for making her come back to him along with Victoria, but since his political career is paramount for Pedro, I'm not sure how or why he thinks it's any advantage for him politically to be married to Nadia again as opposed to Amelia.
The whole thing seems weird to me. Wouldn't the other politicians Pedro associates with think it's all weird, too? Wouldn't Nadia's return be a political liability for Pedro in every way?
Thanks again, Urban Anthropologist!
Best,
Julia R
O the humanity of it all!
Pedro would have long ago figured out something to say about Nadia's departure and "death" which would now be seven years ago. If Elliot Spitzer of NYC could get past a sex scandal involving prostitution Pedro could certainly make people think they were mistaken about adultery.
I'm sure he's figuring this out between last night's and tonight's episodes.
I can't believe there are any chairs left at the JL table. Everything is about him. The dress is about him. And how sad that Montse couldn't tell him his BSC wannabe girlfriend threw wine on it because she was afraid he'd fly off the handle if he knew it was THE DRESS. And the way he attacked her after what she'd been through? How about "I was sick with worry for you, Montsy, where on earth were you?"
I was equally disappointed in Montsy's character. What a doormat. She gets verbally attacked by her husband, after she's just been held at gunpoint, and she says "I promise I'll make it up to you". She deserves what she gets.
All the characters I've liked on this show have gone round the bend. Fina is now a complete bungler and is making things worse by the minute. If Montsy and JL consummate the marriage I'm seriously going to have to join Fatima in cyberspace and stop watching this show. It's like one train wreck after another!
Sorry to be Negative Nelly but last night was just el colmo!!
I do wonder what the writers are trying to say about men. Both Alejandro and JL are supposedly “good” men. Yet, as soon as they put a ring on it, they both turn into jealous, controlling, ragey, abusive monsters. Are we to believe that if these two “good” guys would react this way, ANY man would react this way to the possibility/fact that their wife is in love with someone else? Are we to believe that this is normal behavior for any red blooded man?
Do the writers just believe that the viewers think that all men are abusive controllers?
And when JL started messing with the cake I thought OK, that's it! Now I'm mad!
I hate when the story isn't logical. Well, ok these TNs never are totally logical, but darn it, my beanie is at the tightest setting with this goofy story.
JL could have said to Montse, "We may be alone, but we can still enjoy the cake!" A slice of cake, a little champagne, a calm moment together--much nicer than the tantrum and appeasement we saw!
Ale also might have told the guests to pick up a slice of cake on their way out the door.
I know--silly of me to think such things would happen in a TN.
For me the most disturbing thing about last night is that not for a single moment did JL even consider that Montserrat's disappearance could be an indication that she might be in peril. He immediately assumed that she had betrayed him in some way. He didn't give a second thought as how Laurito might be affected, relinquishing him to grandma's care. When Montse asked where Laurito was he had to think for a moment about it:
"¿Laurito? ¿Laurito?... Ah... Laurito went home with Rosario."
Shouldn't alarm bells go off in Montse's head over the way that JL behaved? If he acts this way on their wedding day then what can she look forward to? My advice to her... run away, run away!
At least Pedro just dismissed Amelia. I thought he likely had an unfortunate accident planned for her. He's mellowed.
By the way, how did Victor know where Josefina lives and that he would find Alejandro there?
Carlos
Nanette
I was also shocked at how JL totally lost it and didn't care about anyone, he was totally in selfish mode. I do wish some of these female characters would stop being so nice and polite. At least Monserrat didn't relent with her Mom.
"His attitude was so perfunctory I thought he might give her a letter of recommendation."
This cracks me up.
Carlos
" However she grieved over her real loss, the ability to manipulate her daughter."
Lord knows, you aren't going to be taken in by Graciela's crocodile tears.
Well, our downtrodden Montserrat has now been through two really horrid weddings. Maybe we SHOULD blame the dress. And what happened to that other smashing dress she wore for her second marriage to Alejandro?
Oh well, loved the recap, the excellent pictures, all your hard work, in short, as well as the interesting comments.
Have to agree with NovelaMaven that Monica is losing ground with Dimitrio. Partly for lack of information (about Graciela's true nature) and partly because she is very unsure of herself whenever Josefina appears on the scene.
Three cheers for Amelia's regal exit though. Her godchild Fabiola needs to take some etiquette lessons.
Thanks again, UA. Outstanding. As always.
If they were clearer in how being verbally degraded and abused by her mother through the years has made Monse just want to shrink and agree to whatever to stop the person pounding on her, I would better see people understanding her behavior. But it's too subtle or just not a plot point at all.
Instead make it look like it's okay for some Neanderthal to just let loose on her and SHE is the one who winds up apologizing. What scares me really is that someone writing this TN might actually think that being over the top jealous is an attribute to show your undying love. The grabbing (Ale) and the sexual threatening JL pulled last night...I'm sorry, I was appalled and HATED that they made her all girly and weepy and apologetic last night. What a horrendous message to send to young women.
Daisynjay
"Well, our downtrodden Montserrat has now been through two really horrid weddings."
I'm inclined to say that she's pretty much 3 for 3 since Alejandro was carted of to jail right after the second ceremony.
Eli,
"...no one that does that to cake can or should be trusted."
and La Paloma,
"Eli, the cake destruction was uncalled for."
I never would have guessed that pastry abuse would be a tipping point.
Carlos
JL's conscience just took a sabbatical.
As to displays of jealousy being evidence of love, no healthy person should be brainwashed into believing this. It's evidence of insecurity.
I'm all in with JL on this one.
He is the chief of police for cryin' out loud, and his wife does not even tell him about a death threat to her own mother on his own turf!
She's lucky he did not do with the cake what James Cagney did with the grapefruit in "Public Enemy".
Dimitrio was also rotten to Josefina.
What truly makes me angry is Gracie's accusation of infidelity against Monserrat. She so wants to believe this even after Alejandro realized he was wrong. She really can't face that her own daughter is a better person than she is.
How long before Montse finds out Ale is alive? I highly doubt Gracie will let him in tonight. Just glad Dim and Montse are not buying her BS anymore.
And regarding Amelia, loved your description of her : "Amelia took this pronouncement with all the dignity of a imperial Roman matron being cast aside by a mad emperor husband." So relieved he let her go without harming her. Now I hope she has something that can help JL bring him down. Can't take much more of Pedro trying to hurt Nadia and Vicky.
Maricruz
This series did this before with this actress. Note this photo from an earlier episode I covered.
OH MY, the roman empress; separated at birth!
I can't stomach JL and his psycho @#$!! He is sickening, disgusting and not someone Monse should have in her life. I disagree thay the writers are turning him into something that wasn't his "character" before. It was all there just being highlighted now. I was not a fan from the beginning. The priest called it too. I am looking forward to all being revealed. I struggle to watch the foolishness that this show has become. Please give me my sweet Ale and Monse together again! :)
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