Saturday, July 12, 2014
Lo que la vida me robó, ep. 173, Fri. 7/11/14: We'll see our grandchildren building castles in the sand...Kayn aynhoreh.*
[Kayn aynhoreh is Yiddish and it means something like "No evil eye!" It's what you say when you've been lucky and you want to ward off envious spirits.]
Part One: The Ogre is forced to set the Princess free.
The dark brooding ogre pounds on the door and orders the princess to let him in. "You're going to have to live the rest of your life with the man you hate. Open the door!"
Within the chamber, the lovely princess weeps.
The handsome prince runs to the home of Faithful Macario, and he arms himself with a pistol. He is prepared to kill the ogre and rescue the woman he loves. Both Macario's good woman Dominga and the old priest Anselmo try to dissuade the prince. But the prince knows what he must do, and he will not be stopped.
¡Montserrat! ¡Vengo por ti!
The golden princess is roused from her despair by the sound of the prince's voice -- he has come for her! -- and the two shots he fires into the air. She comes out on her balcony. Alejandro, mi amor, she simpers.
Inside the castle, the ogre also hears the prince. When he reaches for his gun, we see that he still wears his wedding band.
The prince vows that no one will keep him from rescuing the lovely princess. She smiles at him and then climbs over the balcony railing. The prince helps her to the ground -- it is a rather low balcony, as fairytale balconies go -- and walks with her, gun drawn, towards the steed of steel that awaits outside the gates. But the ogre emerges from the castle and points a gun at the beautiful pair, and his mouth twitches disturbingly.
The good queen and her ladies-in-waiting -- Rosario, Dominga, Carlota, Nadia, Josefina, and Esmeralda -- have gathered, and they wring their collective hands. (How did they get together so fast? Is this a fairytale flash mob?)
The ogre and the prince stare at one another with loathing. The ogre says he will never let the princess go. She belongs to him now! He won't allow the prince to steal the woman he loves!
The princess pipes up: "I don't love you, Ogre, and I never will! Shoot us if you must. I'll gladly die in the arms of my prince!" She turns to the prince and wraps her arms around him, pressing her face to his remarkably developed chest.
What ho! Loyal but Boring Victor and Faithful Macario arrive with guns blazing, and they order the ogre to drop his pistol. But it is the old priest Anselmo who prevails, entering the testosterone-charged field of battle armed only with his Bible and his rosary, and placing his body between the royal lovers and the ogre.
Finally the ogre yields, the consummate sore loser. He lowers his pistol but not his animus. He will be their enemy forever. If he can't be happy, neither can they.
The royal couple emerge from the castle gates and into the light of freedom. They embrace and vow to love one another forever. They mount the trusty Tundra and set off for the prince's manor, thanking Faithful Macario as they take their leave.
Part Two: Winners and Losers
Almonte Mansion on the Sea, The Shore
Alejandro and Montserrat (aka the prince and the princess) are finally back home. They kiss sweetly.
Rosario walks toward them with Laurito. "My parents are here!" the little boy calls out joyfully, and he runs to join them. The family is together again, and they will be together forever. Kayn aynhoreh.
José Luis (aka the ogre) lurches drunkenly about his empty house, his pistol tucked perilously down his pants. "She's gone," he repeats over and over as he leans against the wall, one hand clutching a half-empty tequila bottle.
At the Almonte house on the beach, the family frolics in and around the pool.
José Luis staggers into his study, still smashed, but with the presence of mind to take the gun out of his pants lest he end up like Pedro No Nuts. He picks up a framed photo and glares at it. "You're a traitor!" he says. He smacks his head with it twice and then hurls it against the wall.
Si hace un tiempo me hubieran preguntado como sería mi día perfecto, el día más feliz sin duda sería uno como este.
(If some time ago someone had asked me what a perfect day for me would be like, the happiest day would be, without a doubt, one like this.)
Montserrat is lolling on the beach beside her beloved Alejandro and watching Laurito playing in the shore under Rosario's loving eye, as this MONSTROUS SENTENCE rolls effortlessly from her mouth. Alejandro assures her that their joy will last for many years. One day they will be in this same place watching their grandchildren building castles in the sand. Kayn aynhoreh.
Someone has come for Fabiola too.
She sits on the hard bed of the holding cell in the municipal building. She hears the clanking of the cell door, and then she sees the uniformed naval officer who will escort her to prison. It is Dimitrio Mendoza -- her half-brother. She rises, allows herself to be handcuffed and led out to the white van. It is only when the van arrives at its destination and she is about to enter the prison that she breaks down and weeps.
She sits on the hard bed of the holding cell in the municipal building. She hears the clanking of the cell door, and then she sees the uniformed naval officer who will escort her to prison. It is Dimitrio Mendoza -- her half-brother. She rises, allows herself to be handcuffed and led out to the white van. It is only when the van arrives at its destination and she is about to enter the prison that she breaks down and weeps.
The admission process complete, she leans against the bars of her cell. Her face is tear-stained and contorted with grief, but her hair, without the weird gel peaks, finally looks human. ¿Por que me hiciste eso? (Why did you do that to me?) she says softly.
She did it for this, Fabiola...
Rome, Italy
Ka-ching! Amid necklaces, bracelets, earrings, rings and brooches of precious stones, pearls and gold, and colorful shopping bags large and small sits Graciela Giacinti. (Would she mind if we called her Gaudy?) She fingers a diamond necklace, sips champagne and surveys her surroundings with satisfaction.
"Don't give me a penny of that money." The memory of Gaudy's gravelly voice echoes in weepy Fabiola's head. It was enough to have Fabiola close to her... Fabiola wasn't alone anymore...
"Why did you do that to me?" Fabiola repeats miserably.
María barges into José Luis's house and screams at him for letting Montserrat and Alejandro get away. If it concerns her that just a few hours earlier, he tried to choke her to death, she gives no evidence of that now. "We have to do something!" we says frantically.
"I'm going to get my revenge," he says flatly. And he doesn't need her help. "Get out!" He shoves her out the door.
The Ostensibly Good Guys Gather to Toast to Love, though the Patio and the Padre know that a couple of the guests have fake ID's.
Padre Anselmo stands and reminds them that God has never left their side. "Never lose faith and hope." (Is the father looking at Adolfo?) "May God bless us all! ¡Salud!"
Rosario rises and proposes a toast to the great love between Montserrat and Alejandro. ¡Salud!
Nadia and Victor, with Victoria seated between them, vow that nothing can separate them again. Kayn aynhoreh.
Macario tells Dominga she is the best thing that ever happened to him.
Adolfo tells Josefina he is thinking of the day they will be together and have a child of their own. He is so afraid of losing Fina -- she is his light, his peace. He just wants to be the man in her life.
Josefina tells him he is getting there. Hour by hour, she feels herself falling in love with him.
Perhaps Dimitrio overhears this exchange, for he sets his drink down abruptly and walks toward the door. Josefina follows him. Is he leaving? She is so sorry that Mónica isn't with him, especially for moments like this. He thanks her, then leaves. Josefina goes back to Adolfo and puts her arm around him.
Esmeralda is anxious about being away from the baby, she tells Amelia. "Refugio is with Angel," Amelia reminds her. "You need time for yourself."
Amelia takes advantage of the occasion to apologize to Esmeralda for misjudging her when they first met. It was Angélica who taught her to live without prejudice, and now Esme is part of the family.
But Not Everyone is at the Party.
Refugio holds his baby in his arms and promises to fight to win his mother over. He will never disappoint them. He wants his son to be proud of his father.
José Luis reclines on his bed, nursing his bottle. His mind replays his brief period of happiness with Montserrat. "You're going to be sorry for all your lies."
Back at the Gathering of the Ostensibly Good Guys...
Carlota is so happy to see Montserrat so happy. Ezequiel is so happy to see that his wife is happy. Carlota only wishes Mónica were with them...
Speaking of the late capitana, EZ now approaches her murderer, Adolfo.
"I received a very disagreeable surprise, Ezequiel," says Adolfo. "Someone sent me a gift. A live scorpion. Was it you?"
[Cue the Chorus of Doom.]
"Very curious," says EZ. He was about to ask Adolfo the same question. He found a live scorpion in his desk drawer.
"Do you need more proof that the bastard is still alive?" hisses Adolfo.
"Now I really am afraid, Adolfo."
"We have to be prepared."
Padre watches their conversation closely, though he is too far away to hear what they are saying.
[The Chorus of Doom gets louder and then dies away.]
Dimitrio's Epiphany
Dimitrio returns to his empty house. He sits down, sighs and looks at the photo of him and Mónica. He remembers their moments of love.
Then suddenly his expression changes -- something has just occurred to him. He takes a plastic bag from a drawer and removes the scorpion pendant, the one found on the body presumed to be Pedro Medina's.
"Medina isn't the scorpion," he says softly.
No, Medina is not the scorpion.
Padre Anselmo has followed Adolfo out to the beach. Now he sits down beside him and asks if they can talk. Adolfo says, looking out at the sea:
Cuando supe que usted había regresado a Aguazul, me pregunté si un día iba a atreverme a darle la cara.
(When I found out you had returned to Aguazul, I wondered if one day I was going to have the courage to face you.)
He adds: "I can't look you in the eye, father."
Padre Anselmo tries to reassure him: "Don't worry, son. All those years, I was praying for your soul."
"I don't think your prayers worked. What I couldn't do to you, I have done to many people."
And now Adolfo feels the need to confess. Will the padre keep his confession secret? "If you ask me to, I will."
"I'm the scorpion," Adolfo says tearfully. "I'm that murderer. I'm that piece of filth."
"Don't say that," says Padre Anselmo. "Your tears show you're repentant."
"I want to change, but I can't. I don't know how. I want to leave all that garbage behind me. Help me, father. I don't want to lose Josefina -- she's the love of my life. I just want to live with her for the rest of my life."
Padre Anselmo tells him his soul will only find peace if he faces the consequences of his acts. "You have to turn yourself in to the authorities, confess your crimes, and pay for them, son."
"I can't do that, father. I can't."
Adolfo gets up and starts to walk away. The padre calls after him: "Think about it," he says. "I'll be praying for you."
The Family Bed
Laurito sleeps snuggled between his mother and father. Rosario knocks on the bedroom door and then enters to tell them that breakfast is ready.
Rosario tells Lauro that he has been sleeping with his parents for two weeks -- it's time to let them sleep alone. But Alejandro and Montserrat protest -- they love having Laurito with them.
[We're probably going to get into a "Is it healthy for the kid to sleep with his parents?" debate on the Patio, though honestly, I think this exchange is just a device to tell us that it is Two Weeks Later. Sigh.]
Even though it's Saturday, Ale needs to check on the factory. Laurito can come with him, if he likes.
Victor and Nadia are at the hacienda today, inventorying everything, putting it all in order.
A Spiritual Journey for a Scorpion?
At the breakfast table at Josefina's house, she notices that Adolfo seems depressed. Is something wrong? He says it's nothing, just work.
"Your work always seems to make you tense... so I've been thinking -- How would you like to travel with me?"
It sounds great to Adolfo. He'd love to go to New York. It turns out that isn't what she has in mind. She doesn't much like big cities. If he's going to travel with her, she'll take him to the places she has been.
"I want you to live the same experiences I did. I'd love to share the thing that is so important to me."
"And I'd love for you to be my guide."
"Then we'll go to places that where there is great poverty, and great spiritual richness. I want to keep helping people, Adolfito. Besides, it's the best way to help yourself. And we'll get lots of hugs, lots of smiles. And you're going to feel different -- more you." Kayn aynhoreh.
Adolfo loves the idea. Under the benign gaze of the image of the Virgen de Guadelupe on the wall, he kisses her. "It's perfect," he says. "It's beautiful."
Another Challenge for Padre Anselmo
Fabiola is surprised, and not pleasantly, by the priest's visit. She is tired of talking about that woman, she says.
"What that woman did to you is unforgivable," he tells her.
"And so is what I did to you," she replies.
Now it is the padre's turn to be surprised. "Ay caray! And what did you do to me?"
"I told Sandro and Pedro Medina they could do whatever was necessary to keep you from ruining my plans."
He shakes his head. "And what good did it do you? Look at where you are now."
"I deserve it -- because I'm an idiot, an imbecile!"
"If you had come to Aguazul looking for family, and not money, you would have gotten so much more; and right now you wouldn't be here, all alone. But it was money that mattered to you."
Fabiola shrugs. After all, she's Graciela Giacinti's daughter -- or should she call her by her real name, Gaudencia Jiménez?
"Even so," says the padre, "Montserrat and Alejandro haven't abandoned you."
Fabiola thinks they have. "I've been here for more than two weeks, and neither one of them has come to see me."
"But they're paying a lawyer to get you out of here."
She says to tell them not to bother. She has nowhere to go, and no money, no family.
"Don't be so bitter. Try to forgive your mother."
"I just wanted a little love, and that woman took everything from me and threw me in the garbage."
"One day she'll have to pay for what she did, if not in this life, then in the next."
Fabiola's face hardens. "Is there anything else I can do for you? I'm tired of your pity."
"I'll be looking out for you -- and you're in my prayers."
Fabiola shakes her head and walks away.
The Chief of Police at home
Filthy, unkempt José Luis sits on the bedroom floor and drinks. He seems oblivious to the unmade bed, the empty bottles, the dirty clothes, the disorder.
["Well I guess we dodged a bullet when we opted out of Smell-o-Vision for the Patio," whispers Jarifa.]
When Amelia comes to visit because she's concerned about him, he tries to send her away. He doesn't need anyone feeling sorry for him. She tells him that avoiding reality isn't the answer. He says he has to do something to ease his pain. Or would she prefer him to settle the score by killing Alejandro?
Amelia is horrified. "No!"
"I'm going to get my revenge, Amelia. They stole my love, they destroyed my heart -- they destroyed my life!"
She reaches out a hand to touch him, but then pulls it back, as if thinking better of it.
"If I can't be happy, they won't be either -- not while I'm alive."
And he told Alejandro he was counting hogs and chickens!
At the hacienda, Victor has a surprise for Poor Blind Nadia -- a live chamber orchestra playing the Brandenburg Concerto No. 5 in D Major. Wow! Too bad they only get to play for, like, 15 seconds. Then we get to hear their insipid theme song as Victor proposes marriage since she is, kayn aynhoreh, a free woman now. She accepts. They kiss. He slips a big sparkly ring on her finger. (I wonder if he found it in a bottle on the beach.)
Avances:
Vengeance will take more lives!
Everyone is in danger!
[Get the hell out of Aguazul while you still can! Pass the word!]
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Comments:
Monserrat was how old when MDA met her, 18? I'm not sure what their age difference is supposed to be but MDA seems to have forgotten that that's way too young to make a permanent declaration of love.
He is in no position to talk about other people lying when he deliberately concealed the truth about Alejandro being alive from her. He also seems very unaware that living with a woman who hates him won't give him any satisfaction.
For some reason I thought that Ale did not come back until the next day to retrieve his pet, until I saw that the Tundra still was fully loaded with her stuff.
I do not think that it's such a big deal that he fired two shots into the air to announce his arrival. After all, they do that very same thing in South Central LA every New Year's eve.
Did anyone notice that the ring Victor slipped on Nadia's finger was about a dozen sizes too big? Boy, she is skin and bones!
Finally, the fake orchestra. Most of the actors/musicians were not even touching their instruments. And where do you find a bassoon in Aguazul? At the local pawn shop?
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José Luis staggers into his study, still smashed, but with the presence of mind to take the gun out of his pants lest he end up like Pedro No Nuts.
José Luis staggers into his study, still smashed, but with the presence of mind to take the gun out of his pants lest he end up like Pedro No Nuts.
NovelaMaven: Your fairy tale theme was inspired. As always, your lovely rendering brought these oh so flawed but vibrant characters to life. Your conversation translations and embedded vocabulary - sensational and much appreciated.
I was unfamiliar with Kayn aynhoreh, so thank you! I hope that some of our favorite villains (Adolfo and EZ) murmer it frequently and with fervor.
"(How did they get together so fast? Is this a fairytale flash mob?)" made me laugh. What an image that invoked! "But it is the old priest Anselmo who prevails, entering the testosterone-charged field of battle armed only with his Bible and his rosary" and "The Ostensibly Good Guys Gather to Toast to Love, though the Patio and the Padre know that a couple of the guests have fake ID's" were sublime.
While I am relieved Monse is safe (for the moment), I must say I wished we had been able to linger a bit longer on the scene of "Gaudy" being surrounded by those she loves (diamonds and gold). It did appear that while she may not have been wearing haute couture, her outfit would not have made Bill Blackwell's worst dressed list. The sated, satisfied smile that played on her lips made me wonder if there was even a trace of regret. We were not privvy, if that did indeed occur.
Everyone is under a cloud of illusion that life is wonderful and the future rosy. A false respite, a calm before the storm that all but Adolfo and EZ seem to be blissfully unaware of.
Has Dimitrio realized who the scorpion really is?
Adolfo continues to tug at my heartstrings. "Under the benign gaze of the image of the Virgen de Guadelupe on the wall, he kisses her. "It's perfect," he says. "It's beautiful." I want him to take that journey with Fina, heaven help me. Perhaps in this one instance, a fairytale may come true.
Madelaine, missing you and hope you return soon.
NovelaMaven, thank you for making me happy on this very fine Saturday.
Diana
I was unfamiliar with Kayn aynhoreh, so thank you! I hope that some of our favorite villains (Adolfo and EZ) murmer it frequently and with fervor.
"(How did they get together so fast? Is this a fairytale flash mob?)" made me laugh. What an image that invoked! "But it is the old priest Anselmo who prevails, entering the testosterone-charged field of battle armed only with his Bible and his rosary" and "The Ostensibly Good Guys Gather to Toast to Love, though the Patio and the Padre know that a couple of the guests have fake ID's" were sublime.
While I am relieved Monse is safe (for the moment), I must say I wished we had been able to linger a bit longer on the scene of "Gaudy" being surrounded by those she loves (diamonds and gold). It did appear that while she may not have been wearing haute couture, her outfit would not have made Bill Blackwell's worst dressed list. The sated, satisfied smile that played on her lips made me wonder if there was even a trace of regret. We were not privvy, if that did indeed occur.
Everyone is under a cloud of illusion that life is wonderful and the future rosy. A false respite, a calm before the storm that all but Adolfo and EZ seem to be blissfully unaware of.
Has Dimitrio realized who the scorpion really is?
Adolfo continues to tug at my heartstrings. "Under the benign gaze of the image of the Virgen de Guadelupe on the wall, he kisses her. "It's perfect," he says. "It's beautiful." I want him to take that journey with Fina, heaven help me. Perhaps in this one instance, a fairytale may come true.
Madelaine, missing you and hope you return soon.
NovelaMaven, thank you for making me happy on this very fine Saturday.
Diana
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: Saturday, July 12, 2014 at 7:15:00 AM EDT
: Saturday, July 12, 2014 at 7:15:00 AM EDT
Good work, NovelaMaven. You had some really brilliant ones here:
Amid necklaces, bracelets, earrings, rings and brooches of precious stones, pearls and gold, and colorful shopping bags large and small sits Graciela Giacinti. (Would she mind if we called her Gaudy?)
Filthy, unkempt José Luis sits on the bedroom floor and drinks. He seems oblivious to the unmade bed, the empty bottles, the dirty clothes, the disorder.
["Well I guess we dodged a bullet when we opted out of Smell-o-Vision for the Patio," whispers Jarifa.]
We now know that Gracie really is in Italy and had nothing to do with Pedro hiding out. It pains me to think this, but I now think that it was Mad Dog Alvarez who hid Pedro and planted those scorpions. His obsession has driven him fully to the dark side. There is nothing worse than a military man on a rampage.
Amid necklaces, bracelets, earrings, rings and brooches of precious stones, pearls and gold, and colorful shopping bags large and small sits Graciela Giacinti. (Would she mind if we called her Gaudy?)
Filthy, unkempt José Luis sits on the bedroom floor and drinks. He seems oblivious to the unmade bed, the empty bottles, the dirty clothes, the disorder.
["Well I guess we dodged a bullet when we opted out of Smell-o-Vision for the Patio," whispers Jarifa.]
We now know that Gracie really is in Italy and had nothing to do with Pedro hiding out. It pains me to think this, but I now think that it was Mad Dog Alvarez who hid Pedro and planted those scorpions. His obsession has driven him fully to the dark side. There is nothing worse than a military man on a rampage.
Can someone please explain why when Dim found the scorpion necklace (in the plastic bag) that was taken off of Peddy's supposedly dead and mutilated body, he automatically said or knew that Peddy was not the Alacran?
Novela Maven, thanks for the laughter this a.m.! I loved the "kayn ahoreh" theme. Yes, we did dodge a bullet! The Patio is still smelling as fresh as it always does. Very funny.
Adolfo made the show for me last night with his confession to Padre Anselmo (at least Adolfito knew the protocol of a confession) and his wistful planning with Josefina. Sad.
Now that there has been some happy time for Montse /Ale, PBN/Víctor, who is going to be the first to reappear and stir the pot: Graciela or Pedro?
Jarifa
Adolfo made the show for me last night with his confession to Padre Anselmo (at least Adolfito knew the protocol of a confession) and his wistful planning with Josefina. Sad.
Now that there has been some happy time for Montse /Ale, PBN/Víctor, who is going to be the first to reappear and stir the pot: Graciela or Pedro?
Jarifa
Permalink posted by : Saturday, July 12, 2014 at 7:43:00 AM EDT
: Saturday, July 12, 2014 at 7:43:00 AM EDT
Novela Maven,
You've written another masterpiece! Thanks for teaching us Yiddish too! I especially enjoy when you highlight impossible grammar constructions and recognize its difficulty:
"Montserrat is lolling on the beach . . . as this MONSTROUS SENTENCE rolls effortlessly from her mouth"
Great stuff for grammar nerds like me! (I take Spanish lessons over Skype with a teacher in Madrid. We study monstrous grammar structures, but, believe me, they don't roll effortlessly off my tongue!)
I'm still sad the writers have turned JL into such an ogre. I was on his side up to the point he went to jail. I guess 7 years in the slammer will make a monster of anyone. Still, JL doesn't have to be this desperate. Once he cleans up and stops drinking, he might realize Montserrat is not the only woman in town. As chief of police, he has some potential in the dating pool. Right now, blabbering over all of her "lies," (she told him at the beginning that she would never love him like Ale) he just seems pathetic.
Thanks again, Novela Maven!
You've written another masterpiece! Thanks for teaching us Yiddish too! I especially enjoy when you highlight impossible grammar constructions and recognize its difficulty:
"Montserrat is lolling on the beach . . . as this MONSTROUS SENTENCE rolls effortlessly from her mouth"
Great stuff for grammar nerds like me! (I take Spanish lessons over Skype with a teacher in Madrid. We study monstrous grammar structures, but, believe me, they don't roll effortlessly off my tongue!)
I'm still sad the writers have turned JL into such an ogre. I was on his side up to the point he went to jail. I guess 7 years in the slammer will make a monster of anyone. Still, JL doesn't have to be this desperate. Once he cleans up and stops drinking, he might realize Montserrat is not the only woman in town. As chief of police, he has some potential in the dating pool. Right now, blabbering over all of her "lies," (she told him at the beginning that she would never love him like Ale) he just seems pathetic.
Thanks again, Novela Maven!
Monserrat was how old when MDA met her, 18? I'm not sure what their age difference is supposed to be but MDA seems to have forgotten that that's way too young to make a permanent declaration of love.
He is in no position to talk about other people lying when he deliberately concealed the truth about Alejandro being alive from her. He also seems very unaware that living with a woman who hates him won't give him any satisfaction.
Love the sparkly fairy tale theme with the melancholy refrain of kayn aynhoreh underscoring those high notes. So many delicious lines....here are just a few of my favorites...
Would she mind if we called her Gaudy?
It's a rather low balcony, as fairy tale balconies go...[Yeah, what the heck was all that about? Montse could have climbed out any time. And discreetly, without all those pistol shots and testosterone explosions!]
fairytale flash mob [inspired, NovelaMaven, inspired]
He lowers his pistol but not his animus
..takes the gun out of his pants lest he end up like Pedro No Nuts
...ostensible good guys...Padre knows that a couple of the guests have fake ID's [pure comic genius]
and this!
your juxtaposition of Refugio cuddling his baby and José Luis NURSING his bottle [at last! an explanation for why men in telenovelas always deal with emotional distress by drinking. Whew, Life is finally explained.]
Victor and Nadia's INSIPID theme song [thank goodness you mentioned that. HATE that theme song. Guess that's one of the reasons I find their romance and syrupy love babble so annoying]
Finally...the big question. First, Padre Anselmo tells Fabiola what her mom did to her was UNFORGIVABLE. A few seconds later he's telling her she HAS TO FORGIVE HER MOM. Now c'mon Padre...I'm a big fan of forgiveness too. But you can't have it both ways. I just found that particular script juxtaposition very strange.
Of course I always love your grammar nerd explanations. And long for the day when I can spout a sentence like that without taking 5 minutes to grind it out. And while I'm wishing, sure would like to rock a bikini the way that Angelique Boyer does.
And would also like to rock a recap the way you do. But for now, I'll settle for just enjoying it with total delight.
Would she mind if we called her Gaudy?
It's a rather low balcony, as fairy tale balconies go...[Yeah, what the heck was all that about? Montse could have climbed out any time. And discreetly, without all those pistol shots and testosterone explosions!]
fairytale flash mob [inspired, NovelaMaven, inspired]
He lowers his pistol but not his animus
..takes the gun out of his pants lest he end up like Pedro No Nuts
...ostensible good guys...Padre knows that a couple of the guests have fake ID's [pure comic genius]
and this!
your juxtaposition of Refugio cuddling his baby and José Luis NURSING his bottle [at last! an explanation for why men in telenovelas always deal with emotional distress by drinking. Whew, Life is finally explained.]
Victor and Nadia's INSIPID theme song [thank goodness you mentioned that. HATE that theme song. Guess that's one of the reasons I find their romance and syrupy love babble so annoying]
Finally...the big question. First, Padre Anselmo tells Fabiola what her mom did to her was UNFORGIVABLE. A few seconds later he's telling her she HAS TO FORGIVE HER MOM. Now c'mon Padre...I'm a big fan of forgiveness too. But you can't have it both ways. I just found that particular script juxtaposition very strange.
Of course I always love your grammar nerd explanations. And long for the day when I can spout a sentence like that without taking 5 minutes to grind it out. And while I'm wishing, sure would like to rock a bikini the way that Angelique Boyer does.
And would also like to rock a recap the way you do. But for now, I'll settle for just enjoying it with total delight.
And speaking of total delight...shoutout to Daisynjay. Could you sleep last night with all the horns honking in the fair city of Cleveland?
Our Columbus Dispatch had a huge photo of Lebron and big headlines. On the front page no less. "The prodigal son comes home" was one of the quotes. Telenovelas and sports stories...not that far apart, after all. The "unforgivable" has been forgiven and all is well.
Our Columbus Dispatch had a huge photo of Lebron and big headlines. On the front page no less. "The prodigal son comes home" was one of the quotes. Telenovelas and sports stories...not that far apart, after all. The "unforgivable" has been forgiven and all is well.
Elna June:
At episode 172 you mentioned there were 18 more episodes to go, approximately 190 episodes total.
Is this the correct total?
At episode 172 you mentioned there were 18 more episodes to go, approximately 190 episodes total.
Is this the correct total?
This is the first time I have seen kahn aynhoreh (don't forget to spit) used to ward off Anvils in a TN, but I'm with you, NovelaMaven, 'cause I was feeling it in that scene. We have, what, about 3-4 weeks (anyone know?) to go, much too early for the main couple to live happily every after.
Masterful recap, can't say enough. Loved your fairytale motif; ' "Alejandro, mi amor," she simpers.' and 'Is this a fairytale flash mob?'
I noticed the odd view of the people by the pickup so the "trusty Tundra" could be seen better.
I thought (irrelevant, I know) it would have been a better TN if this whole scene was fighting over the Tundra rather than fighting over Monse. As it was my husband asked me if it was a Monty Python skit.
Ah, so that's what Gracie is, a compulsive spender. Pity. And she still can't dress elegantly. We know now she was never interested even a little in her children other than how they were useful to her. You called it, Urban. You couldn't have been more right on.
Loved, "["Well I guess we dodged a bullet when we opted out of Smell-o-Vision for the Patio," whispers Jarifa.]"
Judy B-I hate that theme song, too.
Masterful recap, can't say enough. Loved your fairytale motif; ' "Alejandro, mi amor," she simpers.' and 'Is this a fairytale flash mob?'
I noticed the odd view of the people by the pickup so the "trusty Tundra" could be seen better.
I thought (irrelevant, I know) it would have been a better TN if this whole scene was fighting over the Tundra rather than fighting over Monse. As it was my husband asked me if it was a Monty Python skit.
Ah, so that's what Gracie is, a compulsive spender. Pity. And she still can't dress elegantly. We know now she was never interested even a little in her children other than how they were useful to her. You called it, Urban. You couldn't have been more right on.
Loved, "["Well I guess we dodged a bullet when we opted out of Smell-o-Vision for the Patio," whispers Jarifa.]"
Judy B-I hate that theme song, too.
If Alejandro is the Prince, doesn't that make Rosario the Queen?
Gracie as a compulsive spender... that could be. She spends on things she would not be able to afford without fleecing men. They are her trophies. Makes me wonder if she has a safe deposit box with a lot more jewelry in it. Her taste has improved but not her attitude.
Gracie as a compulsive spender... that could be. She spends on things she would not be able to afford without fleecing men. They are her trophies. Makes me wonder if she has a safe deposit box with a lot more jewelry in it. Her taste has improved but not her attitude.
Once again im impressed by your recap ,NovelaMaven .I absolutely loved the fairy-tale style,also calling JL an "Ogre" LoL it is so true:) I liked the scene with EZ and Adolfo,their reactions to the "presents" were priceless,Peddy Claus got them good! The scene with Graciela appeared sad for me,you see her apartment "coloured " by jewelries,clothes,bags while Gracie/Gaudy is sitting there alone,sipping wine.I guess she is bored.
And i dont know why everyone calls Fabiola ugly,she is gorgeous but it doesnt mean a thing now sadly,i sorta wanted for JL and Fabiola to end together since both are a bunch of Perdedores.
I guess Padre Anselmo is on a Illuminating Journey,visiting troubled souls but soon he will find that he is sadly,wasting his time! Instead of going to a Illuminating Journey,he should go to a Fertilizing Journey to plant his chicken farm anew!
Oh The Tundra is now the White Horse ,hopefully it has an intergrated Anti
Medina Kool Aid!
And i dont know why everyone calls Fabiola ugly,she is gorgeous but it doesnt mean a thing now sadly,i sorta wanted for JL and Fabiola to end together since both are a bunch of Perdedores.
I guess Padre Anselmo is on a Illuminating Journey,visiting troubled souls but soon he will find that he is sadly,wasting his time! Instead of going to a Illuminating Journey,he should go to a Fertilizing Journey to plant his chicken farm anew!
Oh The Tundra is now the White Horse ,hopefully it has an intergrated Anti
Medina Kool Aid!
I never said that Fabiola was ugly, only that her hair was really bad and I pointed out the time when she made an obscene pursing of the lips.
I also think that her greed was her ugliest trait, up there with her drinking.
I also think that her greed was her ugliest trait, up there with her drinking.
Thanks, NovelaMaven, for that wonderful accompaniment to breakfast on my real patio. Sipping my coffee, listening to the birds ,watching the trees sway , feeling the slight breeze ,and reading your fractured fairy tale. One must take any moments of happiness and peace when and where one can find them. Lately, my mantra is "Be here now...be in the moment" and I am trying not to think too far into the future. Things get better...then they get worse...maybe better is on the horizon. Thanks to all for the kind thoughts for my family and me. I am trying to think positively and choose to be happy no matter what is happening. I always ask the girls to tell me three good things that happened that day . They are getting very good at focusing on good things in their lives. Yesterday, they were here for swimming and a picnic on the patio and a showing of "Pocohantas" followed by sundaes from the ice cream shop up the road. They were very happy. They will be back today for a rerun of the fun day.
Ah yes, the telenovela as fairy tale. Rapunzel ??...no tower...that balcony was very low, and as Judyb stated , Mony could have just gotten herself over that balcony without the gunplay...but where is the drama in that scenario. Perhaps this novela is a version of Beauty and the Beast because JL has certainly become a beast. Snow White...Gaudy Gracie is definitely a wicked queen.
I appreciated the idiom . In Arabic, they say "Inshallah" or "mashallah." I can never remember which..meaning "Please, God, keep it so." My mother and grandmother always said "Knock on wood."
Ah yes, the telenovela as fairy tale. Rapunzel ??...no tower...that balcony was very low, and as Judyb stated , Mony could have just gotten herself over that balcony without the gunplay...but where is the drama in that scenario. Perhaps this novela is a version of Beauty and the Beast because JL has certainly become a beast. Snow White...Gaudy Gracie is definitely a wicked queen.
I appreciated the idiom . In Arabic, they say "Inshallah" or "mashallah." I can never remember which..meaning "Please, God, keep it so." My mother and grandmother always said "Knock on wood."
Permalink posted by : Saturday, July 12, 2014 at 11:50:00 AM EDT
: Saturday, July 12, 2014 at 11:50:00 AM EDT
Good morning everyone!
Thank you for playing along with me on this one. Let me tell you what I was thinking --
I saw the whole rescue part of the episode as a play within a play, very stylized and very deliberately like a fairy tale. I tried to capture that in those paragraphs that described the rescue itself.
As for the rest of the episode, I used the kayn aynhoreh motif to get at the whistling past the graveyard feel, the sense that all this happiness that people were celebrating was very fragile and fleeting.
I grew up hearing women invoke this magical formula all the time. The idea is that by boasting about your good fortune, you are courting disaster; you are inviting envy and malice and evil spirits. But if by chance, you or someone else should let something slip out that leaves you vulnerable, you can cover yourself with a quick kayn aynhoreh.
Emarie,
I'm so glad you enjoyed the recap.
Thanks for reminding me about the spitting. I had forgotten that colorful (though as I recall, not obligatory) detail:)
And your husband sounds like a hoot!
Dear JudyB:
"First, Padre Anselmo tells Fabiola what her mom did to her was UNFORGIVABLE. A few seconds later he's telling her she HAS TO FORGIVE HER MOM. Now c'mon Padre."
I am SO glad you pointed that out. Hahahaha. But let's give the old guy his due -- he didn't hold back with his advice for Adolfo (although he was overly generous, I thought, in how he interpreted Adolfo's tears.)
I am, of course, thrilled that you found a few things to enjoy here. Thank you for your generous words.
Thank you for playing along with me on this one. Let me tell you what I was thinking --
I saw the whole rescue part of the episode as a play within a play, very stylized and very deliberately like a fairy tale. I tried to capture that in those paragraphs that described the rescue itself.
As for the rest of the episode, I used the kayn aynhoreh motif to get at the whistling past the graveyard feel, the sense that all this happiness that people were celebrating was very fragile and fleeting.
I grew up hearing women invoke this magical formula all the time. The idea is that by boasting about your good fortune, you are courting disaster; you are inviting envy and malice and evil spirits. But if by chance, you or someone else should let something slip out that leaves you vulnerable, you can cover yourself with a quick kayn aynhoreh.
Emarie,
I'm so glad you enjoyed the recap.
Thanks for reminding me about the spitting. I had forgotten that colorful (though as I recall, not obligatory) detail:)
And your husband sounds like a hoot!
Dear JudyB:
"First, Padre Anselmo tells Fabiola what her mom did to her was UNFORGIVABLE. A few seconds later he's telling her she HAS TO FORGIVE HER MOM. Now c'mon Padre."
I am SO glad you pointed that out. Hahahaha. But let's give the old guy his due -- he didn't hold back with his advice for Adolfo (although he was overly generous, I thought, in how he interpreted Adolfo's tears.)
I am, of course, thrilled that you found a few things to enjoy here. Thank you for your generous words.
Novella loverSat Jul 12, 11:08:00 AM EDT
Like Niece, I like Macario. I dont think his manner of speaking is babyish. I think its sing-song manner of speaking that many of the campesinos use. I always enjoy watching him. I loved when Dominga was encouraging Padre to scold him.
Susanlyn, with so many prayers going your way. Just take a day at a time, ask God for strength and Help. The situation will resolve, I have seen light shine through after giving up hope but still going through the motions THEN boom,....a breakthrough!!!
Like Niece, I like Macario. I dont think his manner of speaking is babyish. I think its sing-song manner of speaking that many of the campesinos use. I always enjoy watching him. I loved when Dominga was encouraging Padre to scold him.
Susanlyn, with so many prayers going your way. Just take a day at a time, ask God for strength and Help. The situation will resolve, I have seen light shine through after giving up hope but still going through the motions THEN boom,....a breakthrough!!!
Some of the "good people" got into the party with fake id's. That's cute.
I want Adolfo to live happily ever after with Josie (even though she annoys me). Too bad Dim's gonna kill him when he discovers that he is the scorpion. What a shame. I like him.
I want Adolfo to live happily ever after with Josie (even though she annoys me). Too bad Dim's gonna kill him when he discovers that he is the scorpion. What a shame. I like him.
Recently there have been some comments posted concerning Montse's great looking pants. I could be wrong but those comments
sounded to me as though they may have been written with just a slight touch of jealously. A couple of examples---Montse looks
like she was poured into her pants, and Montse's pants appear to have been sprayed on. Well, there is no longer any reason to be concerned about Montserrat's
trendy pantalones. Why? Because last night we were treated and honored to be the first to observe Montse's latest beach wear fashions. Montse was seen modeling her latest bikini outfits and was looking nothing short of angelic I must say. I'm glad that I finally signed on to this novela. Better late than never they always say.
the gringo
sounded to me as though they may have been written with just a slight touch of jealously. A couple of examples---Montse looks
like she was poured into her pants, and Montse's pants appear to have been sprayed on. Well, there is no longer any reason to be concerned about Montserrat's
trendy pantalones. Why? Because last night we were treated and honored to be the first to observe Montse's latest beach wear fashions. Montse was seen modeling her latest bikini outfits and was looking nothing short of angelic I must say. I'm glad that I finally signed on to this novela. Better late than never they always say.
the gringo
Permalink posted by : Saturday, July 12, 2014 at 12:02:00 PM EDT
: Saturday, July 12, 2014 at 12:02:00 PM EDT
Thanks for another wonderful NovelaMaven. Like Diana and Judy, I too had a LOL moment with the line "How did they get together so fast? Is this a fairytale flash mob?" Priceless.
Victoria, I'm as confused as you are about Dim's sudden epiphany that Pedro is not the Scorpion and look forward to the explanation.
OT - Judy and Daisynjay, I thought of you both yesterday amid the "news." Have either of you seen LBJ's letter on SI.com? It's worth a look.
Victoria, I'm as confused as you are about Dim's sudden epiphany that Pedro is not the Scorpion and look forward to the explanation.
OT - Judy and Daisynjay, I thought of you both yesterday amid the "news." Have either of you seen LBJ's letter on SI.com? It's worth a look.
I cannot wait to see what "Hot in Cleveland" (one of my fav shows) does with the news of LeBron's return. They often had bits about him when he left.
Novela lover..that is good advice...a day at a time.
Novela lover..that is good advice...a day at a time.
Permalink posted by : Saturday, July 12, 2014 at 12:16:00 PM EDT
: Saturday, July 12, 2014 at 12:16:00 PM EDT
I thought those happy scenes felt like the final episode of a novela with all the good folks finally getting their happiness. We all know that this joyous parade is going to get rained on in the next episode.
Permalink posted by : Saturday, July 12, 2014 at 12:19:00 PM EDT
: Saturday, July 12, 2014 at 12:19:00 PM EDT
Karen...I'll check it out. I think his decision is a win-win for everybody. "Borrón y cuenta nueva". Always good.
Thanks for yet another inspired and brilliantly unique recap, NovelaMaven. You must have boundless energy and a bottomless well of creativity. Well done.
Once again I'm going to grumble and scold about the careless handling of firearms in this TN. The worst example (among several) last night was Alejandro firing his pistol skyward. I suppose he missed the day in school when gravity was discussed... what goes up ultimately comes down (at a remarkably dangerous rate of acceleration).
I really didn't see a lot of progress last night though I'm sure that Montserrat would consider being out from under JL's heavy thumb as significant progress, not to mention an incredible relief.
What really stood out for me last night was Adolfo's shameless selfishness. He wants him some Josefina and is willing to have it no matter what the ultimate price and risk is to her.
Carlos
Once again I'm going to grumble and scold about the careless handling of firearms in this TN. The worst example (among several) last night was Alejandro firing his pistol skyward. I suppose he missed the day in school when gravity was discussed... what goes up ultimately comes down (at a remarkably dangerous rate of acceleration).
I really didn't see a lot of progress last night though I'm sure that Montserrat would consider being out from under JL's heavy thumb as significant progress, not to mention an incredible relief.
What really stood out for me last night was Adolfo's shameless selfishness. He wants him some Josefina and is willing to have it no matter what the ultimate price and risk is to her.
Carlos
Vikki,
I'm glad you got a few chuckles out of the recap.
I can't explain how Dimitrio knew that Pedro wasn't the Scorpion. I assumed that was a little teaser for us and that we would have to wait until the next time to learn what he was thinking. But maybe someone else out there has put two and two together...
Diana,
Thanks for your kind words. I love the way you describe Graciela:
"The sated, satisfied smile that played on her lips made me wonder if there was even a trace of regret.
and your tart observation that she is now "surrounded by those she loves (diamonds and gold)"
She certainly showed no regret at that moment. But she is one of the more labile characters in the story and it wouldn't surprise me to learn that a moment after she posed for us, she had collapsed in convulsive sobs. (Or maybe not.)
Urban,
You are so right. Rosario should have been the queen and not merely one of the ladies-in-waiting.
Wow. Do you really think Mad Dog is functional enough to orchestrate something like hiding Pedro and planting scorpions? I'm going to be really surprised if that turns out to be the case. (Although I suppose he could have done those things BEFORE he went on his two-week Lost Weekend).
Jarifa,
My pleasure! I liked Adolfo's confession and "his wistful planning with Josefina" too, both as individual scenes and for their combined impact -- we know that if Adolfo wants to save his soul, he can't do so by escaping, no matter how well-intentioned the journey.
The only way I can see Gracie coming back to Aguazul is in an orange jump suit (or in an urn). Although I suppose if she burns through all the money or gets scammed big time...
Tracy H,
I love how you are able to look on the bright side, when it comes to José Luis:
"As chief of police, he has some potential in the dating pool.
(It doesn't hurt his prospects that he's the richest man in town.)
As Urban says, he is hardly in a position to complain about Montserrat's lies and yeah, it does make him look pathetic.
Countx,
I'm so glad you liked the fairy-tale within a tale.
You know, I've never said (or thought) that Fabiola was ugly, though her behavior surely is and her taste is often execrable. She is -- like nearly everyone else in telenovelaland -- very good-looking.
Susanlynn,
I love your evocative comments/journal entries. It sounds as if you not only have a gift for happiness, but are passing along to the little ones.
Yes, "knock on wood" is similar (though not nearly as much fun!)
Novella Lover,
I kind of like Macario myself. I suppose he and Dominga exaggerate the country bumpkin accent, but there are worse things. :)
I'm glad you got a few chuckles out of the recap.
I can't explain how Dimitrio knew that Pedro wasn't the Scorpion. I assumed that was a little teaser for us and that we would have to wait until the next time to learn what he was thinking. But maybe someone else out there has put two and two together...
Diana,
Thanks for your kind words. I love the way you describe Graciela:
"The sated, satisfied smile that played on her lips made me wonder if there was even a trace of regret.
and your tart observation that she is now "surrounded by those she loves (diamonds and gold)"
She certainly showed no regret at that moment. But she is one of the more labile characters in the story and it wouldn't surprise me to learn that a moment after she posed for us, she had collapsed in convulsive sobs. (Or maybe not.)
Urban,
You are so right. Rosario should have been the queen and not merely one of the ladies-in-waiting.
Wow. Do you really think Mad Dog is functional enough to orchestrate something like hiding Pedro and planting scorpions? I'm going to be really surprised if that turns out to be the case. (Although I suppose he could have done those things BEFORE he went on his two-week Lost Weekend).
Jarifa,
My pleasure! I liked Adolfo's confession and "his wistful planning with Josefina" too, both as individual scenes and for their combined impact -- we know that if Adolfo wants to save his soul, he can't do so by escaping, no matter how well-intentioned the journey.
The only way I can see Gracie coming back to Aguazul is in an orange jump suit (or in an urn). Although I suppose if she burns through all the money or gets scammed big time...
Tracy H,
I love how you are able to look on the bright side, when it comes to José Luis:
"As chief of police, he has some potential in the dating pool.
(It doesn't hurt his prospects that he's the richest man in town.)
As Urban says, he is hardly in a position to complain about Montserrat's lies and yeah, it does make him look pathetic.
Countx,
I'm so glad you liked the fairy-tale within a tale.
You know, I've never said (or thought) that Fabiola was ugly, though her behavior surely is and her taste is often execrable. She is -- like nearly everyone else in telenovelaland -- very good-looking.
Susanlynn,
I love your evocative comments/journal entries. It sounds as if you not only have a gift for happiness, but are passing along to the little ones.
Yes, "knock on wood" is similar (though not nearly as much fun!)
Novella Lover,
I kind of like Macario myself. I suppose he and Dominga exaggerate the country bumpkin accent, but there are worse things. :)
Carlos, I can overlook Adolfo's selfishness because he was forced into that life. When he asked Pedro for money he wasn't asking to become a serial killer. He just wanted to mooch off of his brother-in-law the mayor. I'm sure he didn't realize that Pedro was the Don.
But...if someone should happen to kill Josie, I wouldn't mind. She bugs me, but she makes him happy.
But...if someone should happen to kill Josie, I wouldn't mind. She bugs me, but she makes him happy.
Cynderella,
I agree it doesn't look good for Adolfo. If Dimitrio doesn't kill him, there are plenty of others to do the job.
gringo,
Thanks for the ode to Montserrat. Don't worry -- she has had very few bikini scenes, so you may have joined us at just the right time.
I'm not the one who wrote it, but I can assure you that the description of her "sprayed on pants," wasn't a criticism of the lady's figure, but a comment on the taste of the wardrobe department.
Karen,
Thanks so much for stopping by. I appreciate the kind words.
Carlos,
I'm so glad you enjoyed the recap. Thank you so much for your generous words.
Of course you are right about the irresponsible approach to firearms. (On the other hand, I like the naivete of the actors and the production team. I'm rather glad none of them knows how to handle a gun.)
"What really stood out for me last night was Adolfo's shameless selfishness."
Sad but true. Sigh.
I agree it doesn't look good for Adolfo. If Dimitrio doesn't kill him, there are plenty of others to do the job.
gringo,
Thanks for the ode to Montserrat. Don't worry -- she has had very few bikini scenes, so you may have joined us at just the right time.
I'm not the one who wrote it, but I can assure you that the description of her "sprayed on pants," wasn't a criticism of the lady's figure, but a comment on the taste of the wardrobe department.
Karen,
Thanks so much for stopping by. I appreciate the kind words.
Carlos,
I'm so glad you enjoyed the recap. Thank you so much for your generous words.
Of course you are right about the irresponsible approach to firearms. (On the other hand, I like the naivete of the actors and the production team. I'm rather glad none of them knows how to handle a gun.)
"What really stood out for me last night was Adolfo's shameless selfishness."
Sad but true. Sigh.
NovelaMaven - Your fairytale recap was spot-on. Thanks for the knowledge on Kayn aynhoreh and for the Spanish grammar. I'm learning so much here. Love the riff on JL risking becoming a no-nutts himself. My favorite line: Would she mind if we called her Gaudy?
Maybe Pedro simply has some no-name stooge hiding him and planting the scorpions. As pathetic as JL has become, he's a leader and I can't see him becoming Pedro's errand boy. Plus, he works alone, as he told Maria.
How about that Ale, sneaking in to rescue Monse and then firing shots into the air to alert JL so they can mix it up some more?
Amelia is a wise woman. Surely she will do something to try to get JL to wake up.
Gringo - No doubt about it, Monse is a fabulous beauty with no bad angles. We just worry that some of her pants will cut off the circulation to her brain. Spandex has lots of give, but she's been testing the limits.
Maybe Pedro simply has some no-name stooge hiding him and planting the scorpions. As pathetic as JL has become, he's a leader and I can't see him becoming Pedro's errand boy. Plus, he works alone, as he told Maria.
How about that Ale, sneaking in to rescue Monse and then firing shots into the air to alert JL so they can mix it up some more?
Amelia is a wise woman. Surely she will do something to try to get JL to wake up.
Gringo - No doubt about it, Monse is a fabulous beauty with no bad angles. We just worry that some of her pants will cut off the circulation to her brain. Spandex has lots of give, but she's been testing the limits.
Victor and Nadia have been lovers for almost ten years and I have yet to hear her call him, simply, "Victor." Every single time she says his name it's VICTORMIAMOR. It is soooo annoying!
Permalink posted by : Saturday, July 12, 2014 at 2:00:00 PM EDT
: Saturday, July 12, 2014 at 2:00:00 PM EDT
NovelaMaven- The whole recap was wonderful, but I particularly liked the fairytale first section, and the flash mob comment really did make me laugh out loud. Well done, amiga. :)
I'll have to watch this epi on fast forward later this weekend, if only to see the "rescue." I'm glad Monse and Ale are now living under the same roof-- I won't say reunited, since they'll spent more time together since he's back than most happily married people even want to spend with each other. I'm more happy for Fina and all the other friends and family who have been housing them, and giving them free places for their trysts.
I also must catch a glimpse of Gaudy surrounded by all the things she loves. I hope it's a short-lived happiness.
I'll have to watch this epi on fast forward later this weekend, if only to see the "rescue." I'm glad Monse and Ale are now living under the same roof-- I won't say reunited, since they'll spent more time together since he's back than most happily married people even want to spend with each other. I'm more happy for Fina and all the other friends and family who have been housing them, and giving them free places for their trysts.
I also must catch a glimpse of Gaudy surrounded by all the things she loves. I hope it's a short-lived happiness.
Wondrous NM. The fairy-tale theme was a fabulous choice to go with this episode! I enjoyed the descriptive quality of this recap so much.
Forgiveness seemed to be the theme last night, and as Judy so wonderfully pointed out, seemed to be apropos in the headlines too yesterday. I was working at home yesterday when my phone alert went off from our local community, horns started beeping and people in the street were yelling. No, not a storm pending or an invasion of aliens. LeBron was "coming home." The store designing and selling the "Forgiveness" shirts shown on CNN is right down the street a block away, and I got the giggles watching the line form down the street all afternoon. Amazing what swallowing pride on both owner and player's part and the pull of home can do.
Maybe a lesson Fabs just can't seem to get and Adolfo will not allow himself to experience because of his own cowardice. I'm sorry, but as much as I enjoyed those scenes with Adolfo and each of his fellow actors, his sheer reluctance to DO anything about his plight just continues to bug me. So many steps along the way he had the means to walk away or change his life, and he didn't. Now he's in too deep and as Carlos said, his selfishness is evident to me in pulling Fina into this dangerous pit he's dug and it infuriates me to watch.
JL - I sometimes find it unsettling that in a character such as he and Maria, we are really looking at people who most likely suffer from some mental issue or early abuse that has not allowed them to look at relationships in a functional manner. There's a point in most TN's where the "evil" in these cases just becomes too sad to watch anymore. We are seeing a man now who needs help. Period. We never got the back story for him, so we'll never know why he is so obsessed that this one woman is it, no one else, and he'd rather kill then just move on. I'm no longer disgusted with him, I find him and Maria just almost heartbreaking in their inability to cope.
Considering what that poor boy went thru, I have no issue with Laurito having the cuddles with the folks the last couple weeks. Talk about needing a sense of security and safety. Or maybe that's Monse and Ale...whoever. Don't blame them in the least.
Off to watch some World Cup ( something on ESPN not Lebron!)
Daisynjay
Forgiveness seemed to be the theme last night, and as Judy so wonderfully pointed out, seemed to be apropos in the headlines too yesterday. I was working at home yesterday when my phone alert went off from our local community, horns started beeping and people in the street were yelling. No, not a storm pending or an invasion of aliens. LeBron was "coming home." The store designing and selling the "Forgiveness" shirts shown on CNN is right down the street a block away, and I got the giggles watching the line form down the street all afternoon. Amazing what swallowing pride on both owner and player's part and the pull of home can do.
Maybe a lesson Fabs just can't seem to get and Adolfo will not allow himself to experience because of his own cowardice. I'm sorry, but as much as I enjoyed those scenes with Adolfo and each of his fellow actors, his sheer reluctance to DO anything about his plight just continues to bug me. So many steps along the way he had the means to walk away or change his life, and he didn't. Now he's in too deep and as Carlos said, his selfishness is evident to me in pulling Fina into this dangerous pit he's dug and it infuriates me to watch.
JL - I sometimes find it unsettling that in a character such as he and Maria, we are really looking at people who most likely suffer from some mental issue or early abuse that has not allowed them to look at relationships in a functional manner. There's a point in most TN's where the "evil" in these cases just becomes too sad to watch anymore. We are seeing a man now who needs help. Period. We never got the back story for him, so we'll never know why he is so obsessed that this one woman is it, no one else, and he'd rather kill then just move on. I'm no longer disgusted with him, I find him and Maria just almost heartbreaking in their inability to cope.
Considering what that poor boy went thru, I have no issue with Laurito having the cuddles with the folks the last couple weeks. Talk about needing a sense of security and safety. Or maybe that's Monse and Ale...whoever. Don't blame them in the least.
Off to watch some World Cup ( something on ESPN not Lebron!)
Daisynjay
Permalink posted by : Saturday, July 12, 2014 at 2:57:00 PM EDT
: Saturday, July 12, 2014 at 2:57:00 PM EDT
NovelaMaven.
Entertaining, Enlightening, Hilarious, and Impeccable as usual.
I always learn something from your recaps. Muchísimas gracias, indeed.
Welcome back, Gringo - my sympathetic companion from AV.
QEPD, Cristina Corona de Arriaga.
Carlos, I am in complete agreement with you re Adolfo. Even though he has demonstrated some compassion recently, he is a pathetically week yet vicious, egotistical, self pitying coward, and if he truly loves Josefina, he should have distanced himself from her long ago.... Written himself off as a lost cause, totally out of her league...... not to mention his colossal nerve for embracing and later chatting up his former best friend. He had ample opportunity to change his ways. Enough said.
On a lighter note, I would like to nominate Rosario for Most Improved in the personal wardrobe category.
Apparently, she is now choosing her own clothes and has broken away from all of the outfits laced with FRINGE which Montse had purchased for her on behalf of the big makeover.
Hello to All. Wishing you all well, and thank you for the
intriguing and informative chats.
Entertaining, Enlightening, Hilarious, and Impeccable as usual.
I always learn something from your recaps. Muchísimas gracias, indeed.
Welcome back, Gringo - my sympathetic companion from AV.
QEPD, Cristina Corona de Arriaga.
Carlos, I am in complete agreement with you re Adolfo. Even though he has demonstrated some compassion recently, he is a pathetically week yet vicious, egotistical, self pitying coward, and if he truly loves Josefina, he should have distanced himself from her long ago.... Written himself off as a lost cause, totally out of her league...... not to mention his colossal nerve for embracing and later chatting up his former best friend. He had ample opportunity to change his ways. Enough said.
On a lighter note, I would like to nominate Rosario for Most Improved in the personal wardrobe category.
Apparently, she is now choosing her own clothes and has broken away from all of the outfits laced with FRINGE which Montse had purchased for her on behalf of the big makeover.
Hello to All. Wishing you all well, and thank you for the
intriguing and informative chats.
Permalink posted by : Saturday, July 12, 2014 at 3:13:00 PM EDT
: Saturday, July 12, 2014 at 3:13:00 PM EDT
I cant stand seeing Adolfo and Josefina together..is it just me.?I think Adolfo is cowardly because he doesn't turn himself in to pay for the crimes he committed...I mean he killed monica and capitan robledo..Do you guys think he can be forgiven and maybe continue living on with Josefina do you guys think she'll forgive him and possibly wait for him until he gets out of jail...I hope not i was really hopping she'd reconcile with Dimitrio but i hate what the writers did i mean it would have been more intersting if dimitrio was still interested in josefina but it seems like he doesnt love her anymore which upsets me they were one of my favorite couples..honestly he stood outside her home all night and later made a fool of himself screaming that he loved her and josefina through out the whole begining of the show was madly in love with dimitrio..Atleast dimitrio has changed for good where as adolfo has darkened his soul....Im hoping that because the writers killed off monica somwhere down the line josefina will return with dimitrio..What do you guys think
Permalink posted by : Saturday, July 12, 2014 at 3:20:00 PM EDT
: Saturday, July 12, 2014 at 3:20:00 PM EDT
Yeah Anon,i too dont like seeing Adolfo and Fina together but i think that he doesnt give in to the authorities because he fears jail and for Finas safety,he is perfectly aware of what deeds EZ is capable if he would wish to "retire. Especially after what EZ did to Maria and when he coldly killed that goon in front of Adolfo.
For some reason I thought that Ale did not come back until the next day to retrieve his pet, until I saw that the Tundra still was fully loaded with her stuff.
I do not think that it's such a big deal that he fired two shots into the air to announce his arrival. After all, they do that very same thing in South Central LA every New Year's eve.
Did anyone notice that the ring Victor slipped on Nadia's finger was about a dozen sizes too big? Boy, she is skin and bones!
Finally, the fake orchestra. Most of the actors/musicians were not even touching their instruments. And where do you find a bassoon in Aguazul? At the local pawn shop?
Permalink posted by : Saturday, July 12, 2014 at 3:30:00 PM EDT
: Saturday, July 12, 2014 at 3:30:00 PM EDT
Niecie,
Thanks for the nice words!
"How about that Ale, sneaking in to rescue Monse and then firing shots into the air to alert JL so they can mix it up some more?"
Hah! Yeah, well, as we've said before, it's not about his SAT scores...
Vivi,
Thank you! If you watch, careful not to FF through the gorgeous scenes on the beach and around the Almonte mansion. This was actually a visually rich episode even if the real narrative advance was over within the first five or ten minutes.
Daisynjay,
I appreciate your nice words and your always thoughtful perspective on things.
The distinction between MAD and BAD isn't an easy one, even in the real world. I agree that sometimes the most despicable characters (and real people) are worthy of compassion. And yes, it can become hard to watch.
I think the writers know this and pull back every now and then, keeping a character off-stage when we have become saturated. No Pedro Medina last night, very little Maria, lots of Padre Anselmo to balance out crazed JL. I don't think that's by chance.
And I don't begrudge little Laurito his cuddles either. (Too bad no one remembered to take off the kid's glasses last night.)
Florida,
Thanks so much!
"I would like to nominate Rosario for Most Improved in the personal wardrobe category."
Oh yes! I'm glad you mentioned that. I was noticing how much better she was looking these days -- comfortable, elegant and not dowdy and fussy in all that heavy fringed stuff.
anon 3:20, I'm convinced that Dimitrio still loves Josefina, but I'm no longer sure the writers will let them be together in the end.
Oxnard,
I'm not sure about the imaginary town of Aguazul, but I understand that the real city of Campeche has a symphony orchestra, La Orquesta Sinfónica de Campeche. I'm sure they'd provide a bassoon to a good cause -- especially if Rulli did the asking.
Thanks for the nice words!
"How about that Ale, sneaking in to rescue Monse and then firing shots into the air to alert JL so they can mix it up some more?"
Hah! Yeah, well, as we've said before, it's not about his SAT scores...
Vivi,
Thank you! If you watch, careful not to FF through the gorgeous scenes on the beach and around the Almonte mansion. This was actually a visually rich episode even if the real narrative advance was over within the first five or ten minutes.
Daisynjay,
I appreciate your nice words and your always thoughtful perspective on things.
The distinction between MAD and BAD isn't an easy one, even in the real world. I agree that sometimes the most despicable characters (and real people) are worthy of compassion. And yes, it can become hard to watch.
I think the writers know this and pull back every now and then, keeping a character off-stage when we have become saturated. No Pedro Medina last night, very little Maria, lots of Padre Anselmo to balance out crazed JL. I don't think that's by chance.
And I don't begrudge little Laurito his cuddles either. (Too bad no one remembered to take off the kid's glasses last night.)
Florida,
Thanks so much!
"I would like to nominate Rosario for Most Improved in the personal wardrobe category."
Oh yes! I'm glad you mentioned that. I was noticing how much better she was looking these days -- comfortable, elegant and not dowdy and fussy in all that heavy fringed stuff.
anon 3:20, I'm convinced that Dimitrio still loves Josefina, but I'm no longer sure the writers will let them be together in the end.
Oxnard,
I'm not sure about the imaginary town of Aguazul, but I understand that the real city of Campeche has a symphony orchestra, La Orquesta Sinfónica de Campeche. I'm sure they'd provide a bassoon to a good cause -- especially if Rulli did the asking.
Actually, had he not done so he could have called Monserrat out to her balcony, helped her over it, and gotten away without JL even knowing.
However, the writers felt that they needed to put a confrontation in there.
Now to Adolfo...
Considering what his rap sheet is now he would be doing Life Without Parole. That assumes nobody would kill him in prisons, which I can easily envision. According to villain hierarchy he will fall before Pedro so we may have another funeral in a week or two.
However, the writers felt that they needed to put a confrontation in there.
Now to Adolfo...
Considering what his rap sheet is now he would be doing Life Without Parole. That assumes nobody would kill him in prisons, which I can easily envision. According to villain hierarchy he will fall before Pedro so we may have another funeral in a week or two.
Wonderful recap-although I feel the need to defend ogre's everywhere, I will remind you that Shrek was an ogre and he was an ok dude-oooh now I'm picturing Refugio as Donkey,lol.
I loved the thought of a flashmob, maybe they have twitter and that's how they all found out where to be?
I loved the thought of a flashmob, maybe they have twitter and that's how they all found out where to be?
ooh Eli, I was thinking about Shrek too. Maybe I should have added a footnote explaining that this particular ogre was of the evil persuasion.
I can totally picture Refugio as a donkey...
I can totally picture Refugio as a donkey...
Great recap NovelaMaven! I thought it was interesting that in Montserrat's scenes with Ale she was wearing a bikini and in the flashbacks with JL she was wearing some kind of one piece beach dress.
Gringo, the very, very tight pants Montse wears bother me because 1) they cannot possibly be comfortable, 2) too-tight garments can cause infections in the nether regions and 3) dare I say it - there is a horrible thing called "camel toe". I won't expound, you can look it up if you want...
I really saddened that the writers have chosen to make JL such an ass. This TN would be so much better if JL at least tried to fill his life with something else, some other interest or passion. It's too bad they made Fabiola such a lush in the beginning because a budding romance between her and JL might have been a better use of both characters.
I have no idea how Dimitrio figured out that Pedro is not the Scorpion unless it was something he remembered from past conversations with Monica.
Gringo, the very, very tight pants Montse wears bother me because 1) they cannot possibly be comfortable, 2) too-tight garments can cause infections in the nether regions and 3) dare I say it - there is a horrible thing called "camel toe". I won't expound, you can look it up if you want...
I really saddened that the writers have chosen to make JL such an ass. This TN would be so much better if JL at least tried to fill his life with something else, some other interest or passion. It's too bad they made Fabiola such a lush in the beginning because a budding romance between her and JL might have been a better use of both characters.
I have no idea how Dimitrio figured out that Pedro is not the Scorpion unless it was something he remembered from past conversations with Monica.
Anon,
I agree with NovelaMaven that Dimitrio is still very much in love with Josefina but doesn't want to put it all out there again for fear of another painful rejection. I think that she is sending out timid signals about her continued love for him but in his current damaged state he is simply not even allowing himself to even hope.
If Fina does go off on a trip with Adolfo, I hope she I has the presence of mind to use contraception, but after he mentioned them having their own niño last night, she will probably get pregnant shortly before he is killed and then get together with Dimitrio in time for him to be a daddy to Adolfo's child giving him a chance to demonstrate his nobility. In any event, I see them ending up as a happy couple.
My preference for Adolfo is for him to team up with María (wearing a bright bandana tied in a stylish headband) as sort of a latter-day Bonnie and Clyde and ultimately meet their ends in a glorious hail of bullets... problems solved.
Carlos
I agree with NovelaMaven that Dimitrio is still very much in love with Josefina but doesn't want to put it all out there again for fear of another painful rejection. I think that she is sending out timid signals about her continued love for him but in his current damaged state he is simply not even allowing himself to even hope.
If Fina does go off on a trip with Adolfo, I hope she I has the presence of mind to use contraception, but after he mentioned them having their own niño last night, she will probably get pregnant shortly before he is killed and then get together with Dimitrio in time for him to be a daddy to Adolfo's child giving him a chance to demonstrate his nobility. In any event, I see them ending up as a happy couple.
My preference for Adolfo is for him to team up with María (wearing a bright bandana tied in a stylish headband) as sort of a latter-day Bonnie and Clyde and ultimately meet their ends in a glorious hail of bullets... problems solved.
Carlos
Work has gotten in the way of SO many things this weekend. I've not yet read what I am SURE will be another NovelaMaven special!
I've not read the comments, either, but before I come back with my usual Crackpot Theories, I want to shout out to our Madelaine, amiga, I hope all is well in your life and that we are just temporarily missing you on the blog. This morning as I was headed out to work, I asked myself: "I wonder what wonderful earworm our Madelaine will have for us today!!??".
I hope you are doing well, amiga.
Fatima
Member, Crackpot Theorists™
I've not read the comments, either, but before I come back with my usual Crackpot Theories, I want to shout out to our Madelaine, amiga, I hope all is well in your life and that we are just temporarily missing you on the blog. This morning as I was headed out to work, I asked myself: "I wonder what wonderful earworm our Madelaine will have for us today!!??".
I hope you are doing well, amiga.
Fatima
Member, Crackpot Theorists™
Permalink posted by : Saturday, July 12, 2014 at 6:32:00 PM EDT
: Saturday, July 12, 2014 at 6:32:00 PM EDT
So the police chief has been in a stinky drunken stupor for two weeks and none of his underlings have come to check on him, not to mention his BFF, during this time? How truly sad and lonely he must be! Serves him right!
Permalink posted by : Saturday, July 12, 2014 at 6:48:00 PM EDT
: Saturday, July 12, 2014 at 6:48:00 PM EDT
"(Would she mind if we called her Gaudy?)" AND
" (How did they get together so fast? Is this a fairytale flash mob?)"
HOLY COW!!! I am DYING laughing at this, NovelaMaven!! Of course, this was just the tip of the proverbial iceberg, but these had me going right from the start!! I don't know how you do it. Me, I would be giving our readers nothing but bullet points, but you have written two out of the ball park recaps in ONE WEEK! OY!
It was actually a bit of a jolt for me when we saw the Fairytale Flash Mob. I was wondering if something had happened and I had missed it, but I guess Fina called in the Fairies to let them know that Prince Charming had taken off in his Liver Chestnut Tundra to rescue his Fair Maiden.
MDJL really bothered me last night. So much so, that I had to quickly change channels. To me, a true man and a gentleman does not call ANY woman the names MDA or MDJL was calling Montserrat last night. I cannot tell you how it upset me to see this dirty, scruffy man with the pink lips saying those words.
I think MDA is in a time warp. Even though the flashbacks that were shown last night were of the Luna de Miel, MDA is stuck in time when Montserrat was a flighty, airhead 18 year old. I think MDA was such a nerd that he could not believe his good fortune at that time that someone so beautiful and light and airy, fairy as Montserrat would want to marry him. He can't forget it. What man in their right mind would expect someone who is now a woman to be held to her "promises" when she was 18?! What am I missing, folks?
I gotta say, though, that last night, I had some not quite anger at Montserrat. She bears part of the blame for creating the monster known as MDA. I don't think she had to marry him and especially NOT out of gratitude. Of course, MDA really took advantage of this like a fast break on the basketball court,but this is when Montserrat was a true airhead in agreeing to marry MDA.
Nonetheless, MDA was a sorry sight. Look at ALL that Angelica gave him and what has he done with it?!
Fatima
Member, Crackpot Theorists™
" (How did they get together so fast? Is this a fairytale flash mob?)"
HOLY COW!!! I am DYING laughing at this, NovelaMaven!! Of course, this was just the tip of the proverbial iceberg, but these had me going right from the start!! I don't know how you do it. Me, I would be giving our readers nothing but bullet points, but you have written two out of the ball park recaps in ONE WEEK! OY!
It was actually a bit of a jolt for me when we saw the Fairytale Flash Mob. I was wondering if something had happened and I had missed it, but I guess Fina called in the Fairies to let them know that Prince Charming had taken off in his Liver Chestnut Tundra to rescue his Fair Maiden.
MDJL really bothered me last night. So much so, that I had to quickly change channels. To me, a true man and a gentleman does not call ANY woman the names MDA or MDJL was calling Montserrat last night. I cannot tell you how it upset me to see this dirty, scruffy man with the pink lips saying those words.
I think MDA is in a time warp. Even though the flashbacks that were shown last night were of the Luna de Miel, MDA is stuck in time when Montserrat was a flighty, airhead 18 year old. I think MDA was such a nerd that he could not believe his good fortune at that time that someone so beautiful and light and airy, fairy as Montserrat would want to marry him. He can't forget it. What man in their right mind would expect someone who is now a woman to be held to her "promises" when she was 18?! What am I missing, folks?
I gotta say, though, that last night, I had some not quite anger at Montserrat. She bears part of the blame for creating the monster known as MDA. I don't think she had to marry him and especially NOT out of gratitude. Of course, MDA really took advantage of this like a fast break on the basketball court,but this is when Montserrat was a true airhead in agreeing to marry MDA.
Nonetheless, MDA was a sorry sight. Look at ALL that Angelica gave him and what has he done with it?!
Fatima
Member, Crackpot Theorists™
Permalink posted by : Saturday, July 12, 2014 at 7:45:00 PM EDT
: Saturday, July 12, 2014 at 7:45:00 PM EDT
xintperuvian,
"I'm really saddened that the writers have chosen to make JL such an ass."
That's a respectable position and one shared by many on the Patio. But I will brace myself for a storm of nerfazos and dare to say that I think JL HAS ALWAYS BEEN AN ASS -- right from the beginning when he was too spineless to talk to Lauro, one of the few fully decent souls in this story.
If JL survives, I could see him and Fabiola coming together, older, wiser, drier...
Urban, yes, definitely the writers wanted a confrontation and weren't at all subtle about the contrivances they used to get one.
Carlos,
"My preference for Adolfo is for him to team up with María (wearing a bright bandana tied in a stylish headband) as sort of a latter-day Bonnie and Clyde and ultimately meet their ends in a glorious hail of bullets... problems solved."
Snort!...Wait, it actually could happen that way. Stop by the Crackpot Theorists' Table and let's talk...
Fatima,
I am so relieved that you have finally gotten your priorities in order. Work Shrmerk -- your theoretical skills are needed in Aguazul!
I do like the way you let MDA have it. I'm a little easier on Montse than you are, though. She made a mistake in agreeing to marry JL, but one I think we ought to forgive her for.
I am so glad I made you laugh!
"I'm really saddened that the writers have chosen to make JL such an ass."
That's a respectable position and one shared by many on the Patio. But I will brace myself for a storm of nerfazos and dare to say that I think JL HAS ALWAYS BEEN AN ASS -- right from the beginning when he was too spineless to talk to Lauro, one of the few fully decent souls in this story.
If JL survives, I could see him and Fabiola coming together, older, wiser, drier...
Urban, yes, definitely the writers wanted a confrontation and weren't at all subtle about the contrivances they used to get one.
Carlos,
"My preference for Adolfo is for him to team up with María (wearing a bright bandana tied in a stylish headband) as sort of a latter-day Bonnie and Clyde and ultimately meet their ends in a glorious hail of bullets... problems solved."
Snort!...Wait, it actually could happen that way. Stop by the Crackpot Theorists' Table and let's talk...
Fatima,
I am so relieved that you have finally gotten your priorities in order. Work Shrmerk -- your theoretical skills are needed in Aguazul!
I do like the way you let MDA have it. I'm a little easier on Montse than you are, though. She made a mistake in agreeing to marry JL, but one I think we ought to forgive her for.
I am so glad I made you laugh!
NovelaMaven, It really looked like JL was lined up to talk with Lauro in the beginning and the TN had the typical plot twists to prevent him from speaking to him. I'm remembering him wanting to talk to him, and Gracie prevented him once, and once he was at the house to talk to him and something distracted them.
Emarie,
I remember it the way you do, but it seemed like those were just little set-backs. If JL had been a little more persistent, he could have made it happen. But it was something he was avoiding because he was so sure that Lauro would shoot him down, that he would find him an unworthy suitor for his daughter. (And as we now know, he would have been right.)
I remember it the way you do, but it seemed like those were just little set-backs. If JL had been a little more persistent, he could have made it happen. But it was something he was avoiding because he was so sure that Lauro would shoot him down, that he would find him an unworthy suitor for his daughter. (And as we now know, he would have been right.)
Oh, NovelaMaven,you DID make me laugh and I needed it!
I can't tell you how much I appreciate your grammar lessons. I can go back to listen to the phrases on Hulu Plus which is very helpful to hear AND read it. Sticks in my head much better.
Thank you, thank you, THANK YOU!
Fatima
Member, Grammar Nerds™
I can't tell you how much I appreciate your grammar lessons. I can go back to listen to the phrases on Hulu Plus which is very helpful to hear AND read it. Sticks in my head much better.
Thank you, thank you, THANK YOU!
Fatima
Member, Grammar Nerds™
Permalink posted by : Saturday, July 12, 2014 at 11:35:00 PM EDT
: Saturday, July 12, 2014 at 11:35:00 PM EDT
JL also admitted that talking to Lauro wasn't important to him at time so he's to blame for losing Montse himself. I don't feel bad for him one bit.
Alec never rob or stole her from him like JL likes to whine.
Alec never rob or stole her from him like JL likes to whine.
Permalink posted by : Sunday, July 13, 2014 at 12:48:00 AM EDT
: Sunday, July 13, 2014 at 12:48:00 AM EDT
NovelaMaven,
Once again you have outdone yourself. Thank you for the recap. Reading it was like watching the epi all over again, but much better. These were some of my favorite lines:
"She turns to the prince and wraps her arms around him, pressing her face to his remarkably developed chest."
"Filthy, unkempt José Luis sits on the bedroom floor and drinks. He seems oblivious to the unmade bed, the empty bottles, the dirty clothes, the disorder."
Even though there were guns involved, I thought Ale rescuing Montse was romantic. I am sure that Montse was totally turned on to see her galan come for her, that is until MDA stopped them. Has MDA reached the point of no return? He is reminding me of BM. I don't think he loves Montse as much as he is obsessed with her. I am finding it hard to see MDA redeemed. And if he follows through with his plan to make Ale and Montse's lives a living hell, then he is doomed for sure.
Thank goodness Ale has a degree. Gracie took all his dinero, but he can still run the factory and hacienda and support his family. Plus Montse still has her shop.
Did anyone ever notice that Montse never had a maid at her house when she lived with Rosario, Dimi and Laurito. I think it was mentioned in an episode, when Gracie was taking tea to MDA and Rosario told her to be careful because they didn't have a muchacha to clean up if she made a mess. I think this shows that Montse has matured. Anyway, sorry, I totally got off the subject there.
In regard to Laurito sleeping with his parents. I think he gets a pass. They have all been through a lot and Ale missed so much time with his son that he wants to make up for. Oh, and before I forget. NovelaMaven, I think you asked why they didn't take Laurito's glasses off while he was asleep. I think I remember seeing Ale put them on his face before he woke him up. I need to go back and look at that scene.
I almost felt sorry for Addie, but then I remembered how he's helped BM and lied to Fina and everyone else for that matter. I think it was Carlos that said Adolfo is selfish and I agree. I do think that he loves Fina, but not enough to be honest with her. He lacks the cajones to be truthful about who he really is. I hate the fact that Fina is going to be hurt again.
p.s. Is everyone up in Cleveland happy about LeBron returning?
Need sleep...hasta pronto!
Once again you have outdone yourself. Thank you for the recap. Reading it was like watching the epi all over again, but much better. These were some of my favorite lines:
"She turns to the prince and wraps her arms around him, pressing her face to his remarkably developed chest."
"Filthy, unkempt José Luis sits on the bedroom floor and drinks. He seems oblivious to the unmade bed, the empty bottles, the dirty clothes, the disorder."
Even though there were guns involved, I thought Ale rescuing Montse was romantic. I am sure that Montse was totally turned on to see her galan come for her, that is until MDA stopped them. Has MDA reached the point of no return? He is reminding me of BM. I don't think he loves Montse as much as he is obsessed with her. I am finding it hard to see MDA redeemed. And if he follows through with his plan to make Ale and Montse's lives a living hell, then he is doomed for sure.
Thank goodness Ale has a degree. Gracie took all his dinero, but he can still run the factory and hacienda and support his family. Plus Montse still has her shop.
Did anyone ever notice that Montse never had a maid at her house when she lived with Rosario, Dimi and Laurito. I think it was mentioned in an episode, when Gracie was taking tea to MDA and Rosario told her to be careful because they didn't have a muchacha to clean up if she made a mess. I think this shows that Montse has matured. Anyway, sorry, I totally got off the subject there.
In regard to Laurito sleeping with his parents. I think he gets a pass. They have all been through a lot and Ale missed so much time with his son that he wants to make up for. Oh, and before I forget. NovelaMaven, I think you asked why they didn't take Laurito's glasses off while he was asleep. I think I remember seeing Ale put them on his face before he woke him up. I need to go back and look at that scene.
I almost felt sorry for Addie, but then I remembered how he's helped BM and lied to Fina and everyone else for that matter. I think it was Carlos that said Adolfo is selfish and I agree. I do think that he loves Fina, but not enough to be honest with her. He lacks the cajones to be truthful about who he really is. I hate the fact that Fina is going to be hurt again.
p.s. Is everyone up in Cleveland happy about LeBron returning?
Need sleep...hasta pronto!
I don't think that the lack of a maid has anything to do with maturity. If I could afford one I'd have one! I wonder whether there wasn't an element of trust they needed to worry about.
Anyway, they now have the cash from the sale of that house to work with. They'll be OK financially even if they never get the $50MM back from Gracie, although it would be completely unjust for them not to.
One way or the other, Josefina is going to end up disappointed fairly soon. She will somehow have to find out about Adolfo. This is going to be very hard on her and could cause her to backslide. The fortunate thing is that her friends will not do what her family would have done if any of them were still around.
Anyway, they now have the cash from the sale of that house to work with. They'll be OK financially even if they never get the $50MM back from Gracie, although it would be completely unjust for them not to.
One way or the other, Josefina is going to end up disappointed fairly soon. She will somehow have to find out about Adolfo. This is going to be very hard on her and could cause her to backslide. The fortunate thing is that her friends will not do what her family would have done if any of them were still around.
Actually, Montse DOES have a maid-- good ol' Mama Rosario. I'm sure she pitches in on everything...cooking, cleaning, laundry. As a loving grandmother, that's what one does. And she's also used to hard work of that kind. Now though, she's doing it for love, rather than by obligation and desperation.
I've always been amused by Montse saying she's never cared about money. She lived in a gorgeous house growing up and she STILL lives in a gorgeous house! Can you imagine how much a house like she and José Luis live in must cost?!! You don't pay for that with a few cupcakes.
I've always been amused by Montse saying she's never cared about money. She lived in a gorgeous house growing up and she STILL lives in a gorgeous house! Can you imagine how much a house like she and José Luis live in must cost?!! You don't pay for that with a few cupcakes.
JudyB, you just raised an interesting point.
We don't know how much Alejandro paid her for the land she sold to him for his factory. We know that JL added money to that when his prison sentence began so she could buy a house and/or start a business. Yet somehow he isn't holding that over her head as he is with the promises made when she was a naive 19-year-old.
Another thing that occurred to me last night is that with Pedro disappearing like that you'd think there would be a major stir in the community. A governor disappears and we don't see news coverage or people reading the newspaper and speculating about it? You'd think that someone would be coming after EZ with a microphone and some questions.
We don't know how much Alejandro paid her for the land she sold to him for his factory. We know that JL added money to that when his prison sentence began so she could buy a house and/or start a business. Yet somehow he isn't holding that over her head as he is with the promises made when she was a naive 19-year-old.
Another thing that occurred to me last night is that with Pedro disappearing like that you'd think there would be a major stir in the community. A governor disappears and we don't see news coverage or people reading the newspaper and speculating about it? You'd think that someone would be coming after EZ with a microphone and some questions.
I am puzzled. Ale lost his fortune, and Monse only has the shop and what she got for the house-which will help her for awhile, but we see them lolling all over in a pool and living it up. Who are they staying with, is it still Josephina? She didn't seem to have a pool.
Oh, well. Es no importa.
Oh, well. Es no importa.
Fatima: "Nonetheless, MDA was a sorry sight. Look at ALL that Angelica gave him and what has he done with it?!"
What an insightful comment. And utterly true! As one of the biggest JL supporters (until the attempted rape), I had high hopes for his redemption. But you are right, he squandered the love and devotion of Angelica and has left everything she gave him in the dust.
She and her memory deserved far more.
Diana
What an insightful comment. And utterly true! As one of the biggest JL supporters (until the attempted rape), I had high hopes for his redemption. But you are right, he squandered the love and devotion of Angelica and has left everything she gave him in the dust.
She and her memory deserved far more.
Diana
Permalink posted by : Sunday, July 13, 2014 at 9:26:00 AM EDT
: Sunday, July 13, 2014 at 9:26:00 AM EDT
Emarie, Alejandro got back the properties and the factory; all he lost was the cash. He can make money from the factory and the ranch/plantation (we were never sure which it is).
Monserrat's cafe has to be making money because she was doing well before JL got out of prison.
The pool is near the Almonte beach house, which had become their preferred residence. Victor and Nadia are currently in the hacienda.
Monserrat's cafe has to be making money because she was doing well before JL got out of prison.
The pool is near the Almonte beach house, which had become their preferred residence. Victor and Nadia are currently in the hacienda.
Diana,amiga, I know it's crazy, but my mind kept wandering back to Angelica during that horrible scene when JL was calling Montserrat such vile and filthy names. I wish Angelica could have walked in the door right then and there and slapped some sense into him.
Plus, the more I think about it, the more I am confused as to why Angelica thought JL and Fabiola would be good for each other. She said it more than once. I can't see it. Do you?
On a lighter note, I had to laugh during the rescue scene between Prince and Princess. Montse had some massive wedge shoes on her tiny little feet. Just think if they had to RUN from JL! They'd never make it to the Liver Chestnut Tundra!!!
Fatima,
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Plus, the more I think about it, the more I am confused as to why Angelica thought JL and Fabiola would be good for each other. She said it more than once. I can't see it. Do you?
On a lighter note, I had to laugh during the rescue scene between Prince and Princess. Montse had some massive wedge shoes on her tiny little feet. Just think if they had to RUN from JL! They'd never make it to the Liver Chestnut Tundra!!!
Fatima,
Member, Crackpot Theorists™
Permalink posted by : Sunday, July 13, 2014 at 11:59:00 AM EDT
: Sunday, July 13, 2014 at 11:59:00 AM EDT
OT
Here's a piece in today's Sunday NY Times that might interest you. It's about how Univision and The World Cup and more generally, about Spanish language programming. It's worth a look, guys.
http://www.nytimes.com/2014/07/13/business/media/biggest-scorer-in-world-cup-maybe-univision.html?ref=todayspaper&_r=0
Here's a piece in today's Sunday NY Times that might interest you. It's about how Univision and The World Cup and more generally, about Spanish language programming. It's worth a look, guys.
http://www.nytimes.com/2014/07/13/business/media/biggest-scorer-in-world-cup-maybe-univision.html?ref=todayspaper&_r=0
Just watching my recording, and yes, Ale puts Laurito's glasses on after the maid, oops...I mean grandma Rosario, tells him breakfast is ready and they need to get up.
Interesting article NovelaMaven. The Univision coverage of soccer had poorer visuals. ESPN and 6 just had bigger cameras and a sharper picture. But interesting that they did well competitively anyway.
So happy to read that link, NovelaMaven! I've really enjoyed watching the futbol on Univision. I love the commentators and their wonderful excitement both before, during, and after the game. It is so refreshing!
Just think, WE are part of The Univision Phenomenon!
Does that mean I am now a "fenomena"?!?
(I hope I spelled that correctly).
Fatima
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Just think, WE are part of The Univision Phenomenon!
Does that mean I am now a "fenomena"?!?
(I hope I spelled that correctly).
Fatima
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Member,The Univision Phenomenon (not yet trademarked)
Permalink posted by : Sunday, July 13, 2014 at 12:53:00 PM EDT
: Sunday, July 13, 2014 at 12:53:00 PM EDT
Fatima and Judy,
I watched a little with my Mexican yerno and it was a blast -- but that might have had more to do with the company present than the network. He was telling me exactly what this article says: that lots of his non-Hispanic friends were watching on Uni because the enthusiasm of the commentators was so much fun, even if they couldn't understand exactly what they were saying.
I watched a little with my Mexican yerno and it was a blast -- but that might have had more to do with the company present than the network. He was telling me exactly what this article says: that lots of his non-Hispanic friends were watching on Uni because the enthusiasm of the commentators was so much fun, even if they couldn't understand exactly what they were saying.
Oh and yes, Fatima, you ARE a fenómena*, but in the nicest sense of the word!
[*a genius, someone extraodinary or exceptional, an ace!]
AuntyAnn,
Thank you for the great comment. As you see, hawk-eyed Vivi has checked the Family Bed scene and verified that you are correct. Whew. I am relieved that Laurito's parents didn't let the hard plastic of his glasses dig into the tender flesh of his little face during the night. :)
And speaking of not having a muchacha to pick up after you, I'm reminded of how the beautiful Mendoza mansion rapidly turned into a pocilga when Gaudy was living there on her own.
[*a genius, someone extraodinary or exceptional, an ace!]
AuntyAnn,
Thank you for the great comment. As you see, hawk-eyed Vivi has checked the Family Bed scene and verified that you are correct. Whew. I am relieved that Laurito's parents didn't let the hard plastic of his glasses dig into the tender flesh of his little face during the night. :)
And speaking of not having a muchacha to pick up after you, I'm reminded of how the beautiful Mendoza mansion rapidly turned into a pocilga when Gaudy was living there on her own.
Has anyone else noticed how many different pairs of glasses Laurito has and all different colors. With his hair and glasses, is this little guy headed for a modeling career?
NovelaMaven, THANK YOU! An "ace"! I love it. :))
I am so glad you enjoyed the futbol with your yerno. It must have been so much fun.
Interestingly, NPR did a similar story a few days into the World Cup. They interviewed an American of Hispanic descent (that is how the interviewee described himself). The guy had been watching Univision and had called to complain to Uni that he didn't like some of the words used by the commentators. He then said he told them that American Hispanics find some of the colorful descriptors used by the commentators as "offensive".
Holy Cow! I've been going nuts watching the footballers and I never heard anything offensive (of course, they talk so fast, I am probably missing it all) from the commentators. If anything, they are some of the most well informed commentators I have ever heard.
Anyway, the interviewee specifically objected to the use of the word "Moreno" to describe the darker skinned footballers. I totally missed the boat on that one. My Spanish teacher said the interviewee was a wee bit off base. I have no idea, honestly. All I know is that I love the sheer joy that comes out of the words of those commentators.
Fatima
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Member, The Univision Phenomenon (not yet trademarked)
I am so glad you enjoyed the futbol with your yerno. It must have been so much fun.
Interestingly, NPR did a similar story a few days into the World Cup. They interviewed an American of Hispanic descent (that is how the interviewee described himself). The guy had been watching Univision and had called to complain to Uni that he didn't like some of the words used by the commentators. He then said he told them that American Hispanics find some of the colorful descriptors used by the commentators as "offensive".
Holy Cow! I've been going nuts watching the footballers and I never heard anything offensive (of course, they talk so fast, I am probably missing it all) from the commentators. If anything, they are some of the most well informed commentators I have ever heard.
Anyway, the interviewee specifically objected to the use of the word "Moreno" to describe the darker skinned footballers. I totally missed the boat on that one. My Spanish teacher said the interviewee was a wee bit off base. I have no idea, honestly. All I know is that I love the sheer joy that comes out of the words of those commentators.
Fatima
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Member, The Univision Phenomenon (not yet trademarked)
Permalink posted by : Sunday, July 13, 2014 at 1:27:00 PM EDT
: Sunday, July 13, 2014 at 1:27:00 PM EDT
"Morenos" refers to their color (dark) and, yes, it can be offensive. But it can also be non-offensive, it just depends on the context in which it is used. It used to be that we African Americans were called "Black" and sometimes still are, but African American is also not totally correct, because do we ever hear African British or African Italian or African French? And then there is Carmen, who calls Eleazar "Negro" in a totally loving way, but it's a nickname for someone who is darker than they are, so go figure. It's a complex subject, for sure.
Permalink posted by : Sunday, July 13, 2014 at 2:37:00 PM EDT
: Sunday, July 13, 2014 at 2:37:00 PM EDT
Hello everyone! I'm a little late to the patio this weekend, the hubby and I were out celebrating our 18th wedding anniversary so I just caught up on NovelaMaven's wonderful recap and everyone's great comments.
NM I truly enjoyed your fairy tale description of the rescue. It was romantic, even though the princess' tower was not as high as is the norm. My personal fave was this part: "The princess pipes up: "I don't love you, Ogre, and I never will! Shoot us if you must. I'll gladly die in the arms of my prince!" She turns to the prince and wraps her arms around him, pressing her face to his remarkably developed chest." Fantastic!
I also thought how funny they were when they made it to the Tundra and instead of hurrying off in case MDJL changed his mind yet again, they stop to talk and kiss. Plus wouldn't it have been gracious of them to offer Padre, Mac and Vic a ride home at least? Lol!
Anyhow as others have noted, it seemed like everyone is about to have their happy endings but all the really bad guys have yet to have their anvils come down on them, so we know this happiness won't last.
I'm still a sucker for Adolfo too, but I don't see him making it to the end. The longer Fina is with him, the more in danger she is. No spoiler here, just my wishful thinking. Perhaps Fina will be in danger, and that will wake up Dim's true feelings for her. Then we can see them reunited.
As for JL, I think he is definitely becoming more and more unhinged. Forget about Ale and Montse for a second, he claims to love Laurito but doesn't hesitate from threatning both of his parents with killing them and making their lives miserable. That would only bring misery to Laurito's life as well.
Maricruz
NM I truly enjoyed your fairy tale description of the rescue. It was romantic, even though the princess' tower was not as high as is the norm. My personal fave was this part: "The princess pipes up: "I don't love you, Ogre, and I never will! Shoot us if you must. I'll gladly die in the arms of my prince!" She turns to the prince and wraps her arms around him, pressing her face to his remarkably developed chest." Fantastic!
I also thought how funny they were when they made it to the Tundra and instead of hurrying off in case MDJL changed his mind yet again, they stop to talk and kiss. Plus wouldn't it have been gracious of them to offer Padre, Mac and Vic a ride home at least? Lol!
Anyhow as others have noted, it seemed like everyone is about to have their happy endings but all the really bad guys have yet to have their anvils come down on them, so we know this happiness won't last.
I'm still a sucker for Adolfo too, but I don't see him making it to the end. The longer Fina is with him, the more in danger she is. No spoiler here, just my wishful thinking. Perhaps Fina will be in danger, and that will wake up Dim's true feelings for her. Then we can see them reunited.
As for JL, I think he is definitely becoming more and more unhinged. Forget about Ale and Montse for a second, he claims to love Laurito but doesn't hesitate from threatning both of his parents with killing them and making their lives miserable. That would only bring misery to Laurito's life as well.
Maricruz
Thanks Anonymous 2:37. I know she wasn't using it in a pejorative sense. Just a descriptive sense. She has a mix of students (she's a high school teacher). But what may not seem offensive to the speaker, may indeed be offense to the person described...I don't know.
When I was visiting friends in Brazil back in the 60's, I would hear people in the street referring to me as a "gringo". It didn't sound particularly friendly; but it didn't sounds quite offensive either. Neutral I guess.
When I was visiting friends in Brazil back in the 60's, I would hear people in the street referring to me as a "gringo". It didn't sound particularly friendly; but it didn't sounds quite offensive either. Neutral I guess.
"Moreno" is not offensive in Mexico but it could be in other countries and other cultures. Hispanics in America come from many places, not just Mexico, so their sensitivities might be hurt when their cultural references clash with those of the commentators.
Permalink posted by : Sunday, July 13, 2014 at 2:49:00 PM EDT
: Sunday, July 13, 2014 at 2:49:00 PM EDT
I have a friend (Salvadorian) who is darker than her siblings - all from the same mother and father - and she has always been called Morena. That is not the name she was given at birth, but it is now her legal name. It's on her hs diploma, her driver's license, her college degrees and her employee IDs.
Permalink posted by : Sunday, July 13, 2014 at 3:13:00 PM EDT
: Sunday, July 13, 2014 at 3:13:00 PM EDT
WOW!!! Novela Maven---A great recap. Elna June from Thursday night's broadcast and now you take us on a trip down fairytale lane. You guys are so good I almost can't stand it. I can't wait to see what awaits me/us on Tuesday morning.
I am late to the patio weekend party so all of the great lines from Friday night's episode have already been mentioned but I did especially like "steed of steel and fairytale flash mob." The padre's comment was also a real winner---the old priest enters the testosterone charged field of battle armed only with his Bible and his rosary.
No gunfight at the OK Corral or a showdown in Aguazul, JL was out gunned so he gave up the fight. Good thing for him because 3 to 1
isn't very good odds. Will he try to get Montserrat back at some later time? I don't think that we, Montse, or Ale is done with him yet.
Emarie---Good point, the TN should have had the fight over the Tundra than over Montse.
Susanlynn---funny thing, I was thinking about you and your situation Thursday and you mentioned it in Friday's comments.
Please stay positive, we are all with you.
Hi Florida.
Oxnard Huero---Where do they find a bassoon in Aguazul? I'm still laughing.
Aunty Ann---Love or obsession? Good point. I vote for obsession.
Carlos---Gun lessons 101 What goes up ultimately comes down. You
should email a few Arab Middle East newspapers with an explanation. Celebrations with guns being fired in the air is a common practice in the Middle East.
Carlos again---Adolfo y Maria as a modern day Bonnie and Clyde. Now that's good.
the gringo
I am late to the patio weekend party so all of the great lines from Friday night's episode have already been mentioned but I did especially like "steed of steel and fairytale flash mob." The padre's comment was also a real winner---the old priest enters the testosterone charged field of battle armed only with his Bible and his rosary.
No gunfight at the OK Corral or a showdown in Aguazul, JL was out gunned so he gave up the fight. Good thing for him because 3 to 1
isn't very good odds. Will he try to get Montserrat back at some later time? I don't think that we, Montse, or Ale is done with him yet.
Emarie---Good point, the TN should have had the fight over the Tundra than over Montse.
Susanlynn---funny thing, I was thinking about you and your situation Thursday and you mentioned it in Friday's comments.
Please stay positive, we are all with you.
Hi Florida.
Oxnard Huero---Where do they find a bassoon in Aguazul? I'm still laughing.
Aunty Ann---Love or obsession? Good point. I vote for obsession.
Carlos---Gun lessons 101 What goes up ultimately comes down. You
should email a few Arab Middle East newspapers with an explanation. Celebrations with guns being fired in the air is a common practice in the Middle East.
Carlos again---Adolfo y Maria as a modern day Bonnie and Clyde. Now that's good.
the gringo
Permalink posted by : Sunday, July 13, 2014 at 3:24:00 PM EDT
: Sunday, July 13, 2014 at 3:24:00 PM EDT
I really appreciate everyone's comments re the NPR story. I will talk to my Spanish teacher about this. My new teacher is a Spaniard.
The footballers are driving me crazy! Really good action, but at 48 minutes still zero-zero Germany/Argentina. Messi looking darn good!
Fatima
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(I decided to trade mark it!)
The footballers are driving me crazy! Really good action, but at 48 minutes still zero-zero Germany/Argentina. Messi looking darn good!
Fatima
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Member, The Univision Phenomenon™
(I decided to trade mark it!)
Permalink posted by : Sunday, July 13, 2014 at 4:10:00 PM EDT
: Sunday, July 13, 2014 at 4:10:00 PM EDT
Hello everyone,
Moreno is not considered offensive. It is used two different ways.
Since hispanics are different complexions, generally when describing their appearances they could be "blonde, fair skinned" called gueros, gueras, or rubios. Think prince, princess
If they are Brunetteor or darker complexion they are "morenos or morenas." Think of tall dark and handsome." Think JL
Now if someone is really dark skinned they are called "prieto or prieta." There are song nice songs about "prietas". Does not equate to less attractive just emphasizing that they are really dark. Monica is or was morena, but also prieta.
Morenos is also used for people of black race. It is not a negative racial term.
Perlados or perlada usually mean not rubios, morenos, or prietos, but fair with darker skin like Fabs or Dominga.
I hope this helps, I am 4th generation of mexican descent but have lived in DF, in 70's many of us started calling ourselves chicanos, even if we were not radical revolutionaries. After living in NYC, alot of latinos would ask what generation I was. Not so in Texas because alot of our ancestors were always here when Part of Texas was Mexico. Sorry hope this info didn't bore anyone too much. Like Gringo, I am amazed at how great recappers spin their stories, and all the gifted bloggers. I had posted that I suspected Amelia might be the BIg Scorpian. I know I was way off because she too kind, I would like to explain where that crazy thought came from. It came from vague memory of the movie "Traffic" with cookie making soccerr mom "Caterine Zeta Jones was cartel head. Thats all folks!'
Moreno is not considered offensive. It is used two different ways.
Since hispanics are different complexions, generally when describing their appearances they could be "blonde, fair skinned" called gueros, gueras, or rubios. Think prince, princess
If they are Brunetteor or darker complexion they are "morenos or morenas." Think of tall dark and handsome." Think JL
Now if someone is really dark skinned they are called "prieto or prieta." There are song nice songs about "prietas". Does not equate to less attractive just emphasizing that they are really dark. Monica is or was morena, but also prieta.
Morenos is also used for people of black race. It is not a negative racial term.
Perlados or perlada usually mean not rubios, morenos, or prietos, but fair with darker skin like Fabs or Dominga.
I hope this helps, I am 4th generation of mexican descent but have lived in DF, in 70's many of us started calling ourselves chicanos, even if we were not radical revolutionaries. After living in NYC, alot of latinos would ask what generation I was. Not so in Texas because alot of our ancestors were always here when Part of Texas was Mexico. Sorry hope this info didn't bore anyone too much. Like Gringo, I am amazed at how great recappers spin their stories, and all the gifted bloggers. I had posted that I suspected Amelia might be the BIg Scorpian. I know I was way off because she too kind, I would like to explain where that crazy thought came from. It came from vague memory of the movie "Traffic" with cookie making soccerr mom "Caterine Zeta Jones was cartel head. Thats all folks!'
Latin America is made up of so many countries and cultures that we can't say that a certain term or word wouldn't be fine in one place, and considered a slight or insult in another-- in fact, we know that's the case. There are even differences within countries, where a group of people, or even a generation of people within the same group have differing points of view. A word may not have the same emotional/historic/cultural charge for one group of people as does for another, and so they don't see why it would be offensive. I always leave it up to the person who is offended to be the decision maker on that. But I think we can all benefit from also realizing that people most times don't actually mean to be offensive, and let our guards down a bit.
I remember bristling at being called La Negra when I was living in Ecuador. They thought there was nothing wrong with it. I thought that if you know my name, you should call me by it; and if you don't know my name you should call me Miss. It made me feel objectified, and combined with the very real prejudice I experienced there, it made it all the harder to swallow it as a term of endearment, as everyone was trying to convince me it was. In any case, I gritted my teeth and bore it, but I can't say I ever became comfortable with it. I was happy to get back to a culture where the first identifier people used to address me was not my skin color.
I remember bristling at being called La Negra when I was living in Ecuador. They thought there was nothing wrong with it. I thought that if you know my name, you should call me by it; and if you don't know my name you should call me Miss. It made me feel objectified, and combined with the very real prejudice I experienced there, it made it all the harder to swallow it as a term of endearment, as everyone was trying to convince me it was. In any case, I gritted my teeth and bore it, but I can't say I ever became comfortable with it. I was happy to get back to a culture where the first identifier people used to address me was not my skin color.
You are very right Vivi about different meanings around the globe. I was basing my comments on what my immediate surrounding geography.
I can understand why you were uncomfortable, that shoul have been reason eough for those folks to respect how you felt and absolutely called you by your name or miss.
Thx
I can understand why you were uncomfortable, that shoul have been reason eough for those folks to respect how you felt and absolutely called you by your name or miss.
Thx
Thanks Novella lover. And please don't think I was upset by your comment. I love how we are all able to share our life experiences here and learn from each other, and your experiences sound really interesting.
Vikki,
Yes, I've noticed all the different and colorful glasses Laurito has worn. I'm assuming the producers thought a more sober style would make him look too serious, like a little professor. So they decided to go with whimsical. I think it was Daisynjay who told us a few days back that Laurito's hair and glasses are "in" with kids his age.
Hi Maricruz,
Happy anniversary! Did you know that 18 is a particularly auspicious number in Jewish tradition, often equated with the Hebrew phrase l'chaim (to life!)? I hope you and your husband had a lovely time.
You're not late. On weekends, the Patio Open House lasts all the way through Monday night.
Thank you so much for the nice words. I'm glad you liked the fairytale approach -- it was just so much low-hanging fruit. :)
Gringo,
Aw shucks. Thank you so much. As I said above to Maricruz, you're not late -- come on in and pull up a chair!
As for JL, "I don't think that we, Montse, or Ale is done with him yet.".
Nope, I don't think so either. Too many episodes to go. :D
Novella lover,
Great comment and contribution to the discussion that Fatima triggered when she told us about the NPR interviewee who found the word "moreno" offensive.
"Perlados or perlada usually mean not rubios, morenos, or prietos, but fair with darker skin like Fabs or Dominga."
That's new to me. Thanks.
And thanks to everyone for sharing your thoughts and experiences on this topic.
Yes, I've noticed all the different and colorful glasses Laurito has worn. I'm assuming the producers thought a more sober style would make him look too serious, like a little professor. So they decided to go with whimsical. I think it was Daisynjay who told us a few days back that Laurito's hair and glasses are "in" with kids his age.
Hi Maricruz,
Happy anniversary! Did you know that 18 is a particularly auspicious number in Jewish tradition, often equated with the Hebrew phrase l'chaim (to life!)? I hope you and your husband had a lovely time.
You're not late. On weekends, the Patio Open House lasts all the way through Monday night.
Thank you so much for the nice words. I'm glad you liked the fairytale approach -- it was just so much low-hanging fruit. :)
Gringo,
Aw shucks. Thank you so much. As I said above to Maricruz, you're not late -- come on in and pull up a chair!
As for JL, "I don't think that we, Montse, or Ale is done with him yet.".
Nope, I don't think so either. Too many episodes to go. :D
Novella lover,
Great comment and contribution to the discussion that Fatima triggered when she told us about the NPR interviewee who found the word "moreno" offensive.
"Perlados or perlada usually mean not rubios, morenos, or prietos, but fair with darker skin like Fabs or Dominga."
That's new to me. Thanks.
And thanks to everyone for sharing your thoughts and experiences on this topic.
gringo...Thanks for having me in your thoughts . My family needs positive vibes right now. It is very discouraging and scary trying to deal with someone who is his own worse enemy..not quite as bad as JL..but not someone who blames everyone else for his problems and who can be dealt with in a logical way.
Permalink posted by : Sunday, July 13, 2014 at 6:17:00 PM EDT
: Sunday, July 13, 2014 at 6:17:00 PM EDT
Maricruz..Happy Anniversary !!!!!! ..and wishes for many, many more. Celebrate !!!!
Permalink posted by : Sunday, July 13, 2014 at 6:19:00 PM EDT
: Sunday, July 13, 2014 at 6:19:00 PM EDT
Novela Maven...I always love to read your comments. I learn so much from you. Thanks.
Permalink posted by : Sunday, July 13, 2014 at 6:22:00 PM EDT
: Sunday, July 13, 2014 at 6:22:00 PM EDT
It is interesting that sometimes names that are considered affectionate or harmless in one language can be hurtful , insulting, or rude to another culture. I had a married couple from Colombia. The husband called his wife " Gordita" , and she was not insulted but rather thought it was an affectionate, loving term. I had another couple from Peru, and the hubby referred to his wife as "pretty thing" (cosa linda ???) in Spanish . Some American women might be offended by being called a thing..pretty or otherwise. Even among Spanish speaking countries, common words sometimes have bad connotations in some countries.
The Brazilian businessman whom I tutored in June showed me a video of a hang gliding accident in Rio and a women was yelling what sounded like "Caray Caray" to me. I repeated it because I recognized it, and he told me that it was a VERY bad word in Brazil. He used to type in Brazilian swear words at a translating site on his tablet and get the English equivalent.
Also, I thought that the term Latino was favored over Hispanic , but now I hear and read both. Oriental has been replaced by Asian. One tries to be politically correct and sensitive, but sometimes It gets confusing.
The Brazilian businessman whom I tutored in June showed me a video of a hang gliding accident in Rio and a women was yelling what sounded like "Caray Caray" to me. I repeated it because I recognized it, and he told me that it was a VERY bad word in Brazil. He used to type in Brazilian swear words at a translating site on his tablet and get the English equivalent.
Also, I thought that the term Latino was favored over Hispanic , but now I hear and read both. Oriental has been replaced by Asian. One tries to be politically correct and sensitive, but sometimes It gets confusing.
Permalink posted by : Sunday, July 13, 2014 at 6:37:00 PM EDT
: Sunday, July 13, 2014 at 6:37:00 PM EDT
When my daughter was little she would say, the daddy is black, the mommy is white and the daughter is tan. When I would tell her "I'm not white" (I'm Mexican and, yes, some consider that white, though I don't) she would say, "Uh-huh, you're dark white!" LOL
Naima
Naima
Permalink posted by : Sunday, July 13, 2014 at 7:15:00 PM EDT
: Sunday, July 13, 2014 at 7:15:00 PM EDT
Susanlynn,
Racial and ethnic groups: be appropriately specific and sensitive. Instead of Asian American or Hispanic America, describe by nation or region of origin (e.g. Chinese Americans, Mexican Americans)
Specificity seems to be the key.
Oh, and my female friend from Ecuador calls me La Gringa which I find charming.
All the best to you and your family.
Racial and ethnic groups: be appropriately specific and sensitive. Instead of Asian American or Hispanic America, describe by nation or region of origin (e.g. Chinese Americans, Mexican Americans)
Specificity seems to be the key.
Oh, and my female friend from Ecuador calls me La Gringa which I find charming.
All the best to you and your family.
Permalink posted by : Sunday, July 13, 2014 at 7:24:00 PM EDT
: Sunday, July 13, 2014 at 7:24:00 PM EDT
Susanlynn,
Part of my message was left off.
Just this morning I found the above info in the APA Style Manual writing guide.
Part of my message was left off.
Just this morning I found the above info in the APA Style Manual writing guide.
Permalink posted by : Sunday, July 13, 2014 at 7:26:00 PM EDT
: Sunday, July 13, 2014 at 7:26:00 PM EDT
Susanlynn, I am very flattered. That's quite a compliment coming from you, the lady who is always teaching us something here. Thank you!
Urban,
ITA, if I had the money, I would get a maid too. I have a house that's just under 3000 sq. ft. Three bathrooms, four bedrooms, etc. And working full time. Anyway, when I said Montse was mature, I guess I should have used more independent? In other words, she is not like her mother. Gracie needs someone to help keep her home. Her house needed a thorough cleaning when Carlotta bought it. And I know that Rosario helps a lot, but when those 7 years passed, I was just happy that Montse was out of her mother's house and working to support her family and not trying to sponge off someone. I know a lot of people on the patio often complain about the women in these TN's not working, but Montse proved that she could be a mature and responsible adult without Gracie's help. Besides, Gracie was broke at the time.
Also someone the other day mentioned where all the desserts come from at Montse's shop. When they first started showing the shop you could see a "kitchen" off to the side. It's right next to the room where the register is. I remember seeing Mac preparing a coffee in there. I think that Dominga bakes because I remember Montse telling her about how delicious her recipes were. I also remember Dominga telling Mac to get the bread out of the oven before it burned. So I know for sure they do have ovens.
ITA, if I had the money, I would get a maid too. I have a house that's just under 3000 sq. ft. Three bathrooms, four bedrooms, etc. And working full time. Anyway, when I said Montse was mature, I guess I should have used more independent? In other words, she is not like her mother. Gracie needs someone to help keep her home. Her house needed a thorough cleaning when Carlotta bought it. And I know that Rosario helps a lot, but when those 7 years passed, I was just happy that Montse was out of her mother's house and working to support her family and not trying to sponge off someone. I know a lot of people on the patio often complain about the women in these TN's not working, but Montse proved that she could be a mature and responsible adult without Gracie's help. Besides, Gracie was broke at the time.
Also someone the other day mentioned where all the desserts come from at Montse's shop. When they first started showing the shop you could see a "kitchen" off to the side. It's right next to the room where the register is. I remember seeing Mac preparing a coffee in there. I think that Dominga bakes because I remember Montse telling her about how delicious her recipes were. I also remember Dominga telling Mac to get the bread out of the oven before it burned. So I know for sure they do have ovens.
I have offended several OBVIOUSLY Black Latinos by referring to them as black. Matter of fact, I even made one of my co-workers cry. Her name was KIESHA and she was born and raised in COMPTON and she looked like me. How was I supposed to know?
I told her my slave ship story. Two different slave ships carrying two brothers leave the same village at the same time on the same day. One ship goes to North America (his kids speak English) and the other ship goes to South America (his kids speak Spanish). Why are we different? I don't get it. That confuses the heck out of me. I'm not trying to insult them.
I told her my slave ship story. Two different slave ships carrying two brothers leave the same village at the same time on the same day. One ship goes to North America (his kids speak English) and the other ship goes to South America (his kids speak Spanish). Why are we different? I don't get it. That confuses the heck out of me. I'm not trying to insult them.
Permalink posted by : Monday, July 14, 2014 at 12:38:00 AM EDT
: Monday, July 14, 2014 at 12:38:00 AM EDT
Finally catching up with Thursday's and Friday's recaps and comments. What a treat to read two excellent, entertaining, and side-splitting masterpieces from Elna June and NovelaMaven. Thanks to the patio gang for lots of juicy comments, too.
Every time I see a Tundra ad on another channel, I snicker a little. I'm sure that's not what Toyota had in mind.
Merciless treatment of Poor Blind Nadia and Vapid Victor. I loved it, since I suffer from a sick sense of humor.
Susanlynn, I'm adding more good thoughts and prayers for your family situation. You're a strong defender for your daughter/grand children.
Every time I see a Tundra ad on another channel, I snicker a little. I'm sure that's not what Toyota had in mind.
Merciless treatment of Poor Blind Nadia and Vapid Victor. I loved it, since I suffer from a sick sense of humor.
Susanlynn, I'm adding more good thoughts and prayers for your family situation. You're a strong defender for your daughter/grand children.
Answers to a couple of questions: I believe its Inshallah. And there are 196 eps.
The padre acts like he's not well.
I think Ale wanted the confrontation with JL and that's why he did the shouting and shooting thing. It's so like him.
Why does Dimetrio have an evidence bag at his house?
Nanette
The padre acts like he's not well.
I think Ale wanted the confrontation with JL and that's why he did the shouting and shooting thing. It's so like him.
Why does Dimetrio have an evidence bag at his house?
Nanette
Permalink posted by : Monday, July 14, 2014 at 5:06:00 AM EDT
: Monday, July 14, 2014 at 5:06:00 AM EDT
196? OKaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay.....
#174 will be posted this morning to hit the front page at 10PM. Not my best work, but it has extra pictures.
So MCET begins next week as a lead-in for the last weeks of this one. That will help its ratings. LQLVMR will be the one dark story in a sea of lighter stuff.
#174 will be posted this morning to hit the front page at 10PM. Not my best work, but it has extra pictures.
So MCET begins next week as a lead-in for the last weeks of this one. That will help its ratings. LQLVMR will be the one dark story in a sea of lighter stuff.
Dear NovelaMaven,
Happy Monday morning and thanks, as always, for the magnificent recap! I loved the fairy tale theme and all of your smart commentary and lyrical turns of phrases.
Some of my favorites:
"But it is the old priest Anselmo who prevails, entering the testosterone-charged field of battle armed only with his Bible and his rosary…."
"He lowers his pistol but not his animus"
"...as this MONSTROUS SENTENCE rolls effortlessly from her mouth."
"A Spiritual Journey for a Scorpion?"
Very wonderful and thanks for the transcriptions of the long Spanish phrases, too.
Looking forward to our viewing week!
Thanks again and best to you and all,
Julia R.
Happy Monday morning and thanks, as always, for the magnificent recap! I loved the fairy tale theme and all of your smart commentary and lyrical turns of phrases.
Some of my favorites:
"But it is the old priest Anselmo who prevails, entering the testosterone-charged field of battle armed only with his Bible and his rosary…."
"He lowers his pistol but not his animus"
"...as this MONSTROUS SENTENCE rolls effortlessly from her mouth."
"A Spiritual Journey for a Scorpion?"
Very wonderful and thanks for the transcriptions of the long Spanish phrases, too.
Looking forward to our viewing week!
Thanks again and best to you and all,
Julia R.
Nanette, I have worried the last few times that Padre A is going to have a heart attack. We assume that he was drugged on a regular basis. If he was drugged for all of those 7 years, I would say it has taken a major toll on his body (which makes EZ Basura mentally ill in my book).
When Dimitrio pulled out the evidence bag from that drawer, my first thought was like yours. What in the heck was he doing with the evidence? With Robledo gone, we don't really know who is running the show.
It certainly can't be the Chief of Police as he seems permanently indisposed.
Fatima
Member,Crackpot Theorists™
When Dimitrio pulled out the evidence bag from that drawer, my first thought was like yours. What in the heck was he doing with the evidence? With Robledo gone, we don't really know who is running the show.
It certainly can't be the Chief of Police as he seems permanently indisposed.
Fatima
Member,Crackpot Theorists™
Permalink posted by : Monday, July 14, 2014 at 9:28:00 AM EDT
: Monday, July 14, 2014 at 9:28:00 AM EDT
Definitely a Cuckoo's Nest where the inmates are running the asylum.
The novela Las Vias del Amor had a situation like this only the victim was a younger man who was kept drugged for almost 15 years by his own mother (who could easily beat out Gracie for Worst Telenovela Toxic Mother). When he finally managed to escape and make it to a doctor he was told he suffered permanent damage. I don't remember if he survived to the end of the story.
Another thing here is who in hell is actually working in Aguazul's administration? We never see EZ in his office and JL doesn't look like he is in any condition to do anything. Dimitrio and Refugio are in civvies more than in uniform. What's going on in this town?
The novela Las Vias del Amor had a situation like this only the victim was a younger man who was kept drugged for almost 15 years by his own mother (who could easily beat out Gracie for Worst Telenovela Toxic Mother). When he finally managed to escape and make it to a doctor he was told he suffered permanent damage. I don't remember if he survived to the end of the story.
Another thing here is who in hell is actually working in Aguazul's administration? We never see EZ in his office and JL doesn't look like he is in any condition to do anything. Dimitrio and Refugio are in civvies more than in uniform. What's going on in this town?
I find the whole missing 7-year period perfectly stupid in the storyling for this novela.
I mean Ale (almost immediately)after waking up from his coma runs out of the hospital at full sprint! Padre is drugged for 7 years and the only change he needs is a cane.
So stupid. Couldn't the writers have been more creative?
I mean Ale (almost immediately)after waking up from his coma runs out of the hospital at full sprint! Padre is drugged for 7 years and the only change he needs is a cane.
So stupid. Couldn't the writers have been more creative?
NovelaMaven and Susanlynn, thanks for the well wishes. Hubby and I had a great day. And NM, thanks for the info on the Hebrew phrase l'chaim and its relation to the number 18, first time I heard about that! :-)
Urban, I'm definitely thinking along your lines of Aguazul being a Cuckoo's nest. There is no Governor for the state and it doesn't look like anyone cares. I would assume, there would be major news about all his corruption and mysterious disappearance/death. And someone replacing him.
Plus it looks like the drunk Chief of Police/MDA has not showered, shaved or left his house in 2 weeks and the only one to finally show up to look for him is Amelia.
Hopefully, there will be news soon of who will replace Adm. Robledo and Cpt. Monica at the naval base.
Maricruz
Urban, I'm definitely thinking along your lines of Aguazul being a Cuckoo's nest. There is no Governor for the state and it doesn't look like anyone cares. I would assume, there would be major news about all his corruption and mysterious disappearance/death. And someone replacing him.
Plus it looks like the drunk Chief of Police/MDA has not showered, shaved or left his house in 2 weeks and the only one to finally show up to look for him is Amelia.
Hopefully, there will be news soon of who will replace Adm. Robledo and Cpt. Monica at the naval base.
Maricruz
I don't like the 7-year time jump either, especially because it allowed enough time for people in Monse's life to convince her to marry JL. Especially since she didn't need to.
What it also did was allow Victor and Nadia a false sense of security in Argentina. Then one mistake because they needed money and Pedro is able to threaten their lives again.
I'm also not crazy about 7 years' difference between children with no sibs in between. I've seen what that's done to some of my friends and they all feel cheated about having older sibs who feel more like uncles and aunts.
What it also did was allow Victor and Nadia a false sense of security in Argentina. Then one mistake because they needed money and Pedro is able to threaten their lives again.
I'm also not crazy about 7 years' difference between children with no sibs in between. I've seen what that's done to some of my friends and they all feel cheated about having older sibs who feel more like uncles and aunts.
I have lived in six different Latin American countries: Mexico, El Salvador, Nicaragua, Colombia, Venezuela, and the Dominican Republic.
The words "Moreno" and/or "Cafe con Leche" were always considered very offensive words. But it had more to do with social class than anything else, as the majority of high society in these countries are of European descent and, for the most part, fair skinned or "Caucasian".
I believe it was 1990 that the US Census Bureau changed the description of one's race to their ethniticy: thus the description of "Caucasion", "Latino", and "Black" no longer applied. They were replaced by "Non-Hispanic", "Hispanic", and "African American".
I remember this very well because I'm Caucasion (born in the US and very fair skinned with red hair) and am married to a "Latino", who I fondly refer to as "Potpourri"--Caucasion, but 1/4 French, 1/4 Italian, 1/4 North American, and 1/4 Dominican.
When the Census Bureau called our home for data, our whole household was considered "Hispanic". I got into a big argument with the Census guy, because I'm an "equal-opportunity" woman, and couldn't believe that our whole household was considered "Hispanic" even though three of four people (myself and two children) were born in the US. The census taker explained that as "head of household" my husband ruled!
From then on, I was so mad at the government that I told my kids to always check the box labelled "Hispanic" to take advantage of government programs and school grants for minorities. Call me crazy, I know.
The words "Moreno" and/or "Cafe con Leche" were always considered very offensive words. But it had more to do with social class than anything else, as the majority of high society in these countries are of European descent and, for the most part, fair skinned or "Caucasian".
I believe it was 1990 that the US Census Bureau changed the description of one's race to their ethniticy: thus the description of "Caucasion", "Latino", and "Black" no longer applied. They were replaced by "Non-Hispanic", "Hispanic", and "African American".
I remember this very well because I'm Caucasion (born in the US and very fair skinned with red hair) and am married to a "Latino", who I fondly refer to as "Potpourri"--Caucasion, but 1/4 French, 1/4 Italian, 1/4 North American, and 1/4 Dominican.
When the Census Bureau called our home for data, our whole household was considered "Hispanic". I got into a big argument with the Census guy, because I'm an "equal-opportunity" woman, and couldn't believe that our whole household was considered "Hispanic" even though three of four people (myself and two children) were born in the US. The census taker explained that as "head of household" my husband ruled!
From then on, I was so mad at the government that I told my kids to always check the box labelled "Hispanic" to take advantage of government programs and school grants for minorities. Call me crazy, I know.
Yes, The old Padre is not well. He almost had a cardiac event on two occasions, in the judge's office and when Ale came to get the gun from Macario.
But that does not stop him from getting up into everyone's business. He just sidles up to people and starts giving them unsolicited advice.
They also have not revealed where his staying, as far as I know. Maybe he can use Graciela's room.
But that does not stop him from getting up into everyone's business. He just sidles up to people and starts giving them unsolicited advice.
They also have not revealed where his staying, as far as I know. Maybe he can use Graciela's room.
Permalink posted by : Monday, July 14, 2014 at 11:44:00 AM EDT
: Monday, July 14, 2014 at 11:44:00 AM EDT
UA..My sister is eight years older than I am. It is different from having a sibling close in age. She usually feels that she should make decisions regarding the two of us or the family. The best times we had were when we were both married and raising children . Her oldest child (a son ) was born when I was 17. Then, she had two daughters . Her youngest child (a son ) is the same age as my younger daughter. We have had our problems as we have gotten older and our aunt and parents aged and died. At which time , we had a major fallout over something she did and then lied about. At one point , she told me that's she considered our cousin who is a few years younger than she to be her sister. Very hurtful. I have forgiven her,, but things are not the same between us. My grandma used to say "Words once spoken can never be taken back." She was right. Forgiving is possible; forgetting is sometimes impossible. Que lastima.
Permalink posted by : Monday, July 14, 2014 at 11:46:00 AM EDT
: Monday, July 14, 2014 at 11:46:00 AM EDT
Floridia, thank you for the APA Style Sheet info. And thanks to Victoria Gomez for sharing your personal experience on this touchy subject of race, ethnicity and skin color and their descriptors.
La Paloma, I am so flattered to be mentioned in the same breath as my brilliant friend, Elna June.
We may be snickering at Tundras, but man oh man, are we ever conscious of them and their heroic potential... not that I would ever let something like that influence me...certainly not... :-)
Nanette
"Why does Dim have an evidence bag at home?"
I agree with everyone who has described the leadership vacuum at every level right now and the absence of anyone who can really be trusted. My take on this is that Dim is personally vested in tracking down Monica's killer -- the scorpion. If Robledo were still alive, if the crime didn't involve Dim personally, he would probably never have withheld evidence. But the way things stand, he feels the only one he can trust is himself.
Julia Rold
Thank you for your generous comment. You know it's a mutual admiration society, right?
Oxnard Huero
The padre is staying with Macario and Dominga. As for his "getting up into everyone's business," I thought of his character when I came across this phrase in a book review earlier today:
He was a man with a capacity for forgiveness so remarkable it verged on being a flaw...
Sara Gruen reviewing Elephant Company in the NYT 7/13/14.
La Paloma, I am so flattered to be mentioned in the same breath as my brilliant friend, Elna June.
We may be snickering at Tundras, but man oh man, are we ever conscious of them and their heroic potential... not that I would ever let something like that influence me...certainly not... :-)
Nanette
"Why does Dim have an evidence bag at home?"
I agree with everyone who has described the leadership vacuum at every level right now and the absence of anyone who can really be trusted. My take on this is that Dim is personally vested in tracking down Monica's killer -- the scorpion. If Robledo were still alive, if the crime didn't involve Dim personally, he would probably never have withheld evidence. But the way things stand, he feels the only one he can trust is himself.
Julia Rold
Thank you for your generous comment. You know it's a mutual admiration society, right?
Oxnard Huero
The padre is staying with Macario and Dominga. As for his "getting up into everyone's business," I thought of his character when I came across this phrase in a book review earlier today:
He was a man with a capacity for forgiveness so remarkable it verged on being a flaw...
Sara Gruen reviewing Elephant Company in the NYT 7/13/14.
Urban---I'm laughing but you are so right. Who is running Aquazul or the state for that matter. Is there a Lt. Governor over there.
Pedro has been missing for some time. When I think back on several novelas I have had similar
thoughts like, does any work ever get done in this office etc. I guess that's just the way novelas are. We just have to use a lot of imagination.
Another thing---think about how much alcohol is consumed in a short time. A half bottle of tequila in five minutes--QUE???
the gringo
the gringo
Pedro has been missing for some time. When I think back on several novelas I have had similar
thoughts like, does any work ever get done in this office etc. I guess that's just the way novelas are. We just have to use a lot of imagination.
Another thing---think about how much alcohol is consumed in a short time. A half bottle of tequila in five minutes--QUE???
the gringo
the gringo
Permalink posted by : Monday, July 14, 2014 at 1:43:00 PM EDT
: Monday, July 14, 2014 at 1:43:00 PM EDT
Ussually in our Korruptolandia,also known as Slovenia ,from what i know that when a prime minister/president steps down or leaves the post for whatever reason/dies we have a temporary goverment just so that until elections the country does not fall into anarchy,we are now without a Prime Minister because she step down because of the goverments utter corruption,birocracy and incompetence and the same happened last year.Not that the temporary sheepy goverment makes a difference,we are 26 billion in debt and i highly doubt that the next "marionette" will make a difference,
As for Aguazul the same thing must be happening abit on a smaller scale.I think there must be a small council who does the governors job while in his absence.We never seen EZ do any buisness with them though,he is too busy being a druglord :)
As for Aguazul the same thing must be happening abit on a smaller scale.I think there must be a small council who does the governors job while in his absence.We never seen EZ do any buisness with them though,he is too busy being a druglord :)
Novela Maven:
Thank you for giving us your inimitable version of a Fractured Fairy Tale.
I am sad to have the Party on the Patio this weekend. Alas, duty called and I answered.
This recap was delightful. I will now go to read comments (110)! Yah!
Elna June
Thank you for giving us your inimitable version of a Fractured Fairy Tale.
I am sad to have the Party on the Patio this weekend. Alas, duty called and I answered.
This recap was delightful. I will now go to read comments (110)! Yah!
Elna June
Novela Maven
"He was a man with a capacity for forgiveness so remarkable it verged on being a flaw...
Sara Gruen reviewing Elephant Company in the NYT 7/13/14".
I see padre Anselmo a bit differently. His sees his role as the moral standard bearer of Aguazul. I don't think that he forgives anyone but rather serves as the medium between the sinner whom he thinks needs forgiveness and God.
He is my favorite character on the soap. I just hope he has a vial of nitro pills on his person at all times.
We don't need another Lauro scene, where he lay dying as Ale was chewing him out.
"He was a man with a capacity for forgiveness so remarkable it verged on being a flaw...
Sara Gruen reviewing Elephant Company in the NYT 7/13/14".
I see padre Anselmo a bit differently. His sees his role as the moral standard bearer of Aguazul. I don't think that he forgives anyone but rather serves as the medium between the sinner whom he thinks needs forgiveness and God.
He is my favorite character on the soap. I just hope he has a vial of nitro pills on his person at all times.
We don't need another Lauro scene, where he lay dying as Ale was chewing him out.
Permalink posted by : Monday, July 14, 2014 at 2:50:00 PM EDT
: Monday, July 14, 2014 at 2:50:00 PM EDT
Oxnard Huero,
That's a great point. I see Padre Anselmo as personally very quick to forgive, even a bit naive and overly trusting (when someone -- Adolfo, maybe, or EZ? -- asked him for forgiveness, his automatic response was "I forgave you a long time ago." And of course years ago he entrusted Joaquin's suicide note to Maria when he had good reason to know better.)
But you are so right that in his series of visits -- begun here and continued in ep. 174 -- he is acting as God's emissary, or as you put it, "the medium between the sinner whom he thinks needs forgiveness and God."
Hi Elna June,
Thanks so stopping by! I'm glad you enjoyed the fairytale. I hope you were in time for a shot of mescal -- I'm pretty sure they were still serving at the Macario table when you arrived.
That's a great point. I see Padre Anselmo as personally very quick to forgive, even a bit naive and overly trusting (when someone -- Adolfo, maybe, or EZ? -- asked him for forgiveness, his automatic response was "I forgave you a long time ago." And of course years ago he entrusted Joaquin's suicide note to Maria when he had good reason to know better.)
But you are so right that in his series of visits -- begun here and continued in ep. 174 -- he is acting as God's emissary, or as you put it, "the medium between the sinner whom he thinks needs forgiveness and God."
Hi Elna June,
Thanks so stopping by! I'm glad you enjoyed the fairytale. I hope you were in time for a shot of mescal -- I'm pretty sure they were still serving at the Macario table when you arrived.
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