Monday, August 04, 2014
Qué Pobres, Lunes 8/4/14 (#149): Fear of the Unknown
We're in ultimos capitulos now, and the gran final is August 24.
Reruns from Friday: Tizoc and Frida "agree" that they aren't in love because they don't think of one another all day long, and Frida doesn't tell him about the pregnancy. Ana Sofia's swell friends bid bitchy goodbyes and say they'll be in touch. Ana Sofia complains to MA that Mati's dinner with the Menchacas interfered with her own plans to worm her way back into the good graces of the buena gente.
MA has already heard Mati's side of the story. Mati didn't know AS was planning a party that same evening, and it's Mati's home too. She has every right to invite people over. As for friendship, well, the Menchacas certainly are their friends; they helped them out when the swell friends didn't. As usual, his words go in AS's one ear and out the other; she hopes never to see the Menchacas again.
In La Nopalera, the Menchacas assess the damage to the fonda. The kitchen and dining area are thoroughly trashed; even the walls have been vandalized. But the rooms upstairs appear to be untouched, and nothing seems to be missing. Lupe mentions that she learned her lesson when the 300,000 pesos were stolen, and now all their cash is safe in a bank account.
But Rita's not home.
And Ahole is on the phone with an unidentified person who has confirmed that the job is done.
Mati chats with Frida. Frida needs to make a decision soon, and she needs to be sure. Mati will support her no matter what. Frida's not even sure how to decide.
Nepo chats with Diego. Diego is still considering a job opportunity coaching soccer in another city. He is sad, but he won't confide in his father because, as he sadly tells Nepo, there's not much for him to say that Nepo's willing to hear.
Now Mati chats with Leo. At first he is hesitant, but she says he can talk to her about anything. "Oh my gay," Leo quips. She reassures him. He says Mexico and lots of places are tough places to be gay because of people like Nepo, but in New York it's no big deal. Mati reminds him that he can be himself here among his family and the people who love him.
The police have been slow to arrive at the fonda because they were out on a bunch of calls - they try to confuse the Menchacas with a list of numbered codes, but someone (Tizoc?) recognizes one of those codes as meaning a sandwich break. Chuy thinks the break-in was motivated by something more than a typical grudge, and he doesn't think it was just local hooligans either because that's not how it is in this neighborhood. The police aren't very helpful, and tell Chuy to file a report at the station if he wants to.
Emi tells Lupe he's too nervous to sleep. He'd feel safer living with Daddy. He's got a whole staff to keep him safe. (And he needs it!) Nice try, kid.
Morning. Carmelita tells Gwendy about the break-in. They reluctantly consider Rita as a suspect, but they're not committed to the idea. Yet.
Cleanup begins at the diner. It seems Rita still hasn't come back yet, and Perla raises the question of her involvement.
Chuy's old wrestling buddy and romantic rival, Chilly Killer, shows up and offers to let bygones be bygones; wrestlers stick together and help each other out. He and some wrestling friends (I don't remember who's who, so maybe they're Wifi and Bluetooth et al). Perla seems to take a shine to one of the younger guys. I don't catch his name, but he has some lines later on, so I'll call him Prince Charming and I hope Perla gets together with him so that Tomas can be free to find a novia who's a better match for him (see how tactfully I said that?).
The gossip about the fonda has already spread far and wide. At Gwendy's salon, one of the clients is going on and on about how Rita has been asking lots of questions about everyone in the neighborhood. Plus, she used to be a WRESTLER and the client considers this a bad thing.
And, the client adds, Rita's been lurking around Nepo's fruit stand. Gwendy begins to worry. Then Diego shows up with a gift of fruit, and Gwendy remembers that Nepo's BIL is a policeman.
Ahole is on the phone again with the unseen goon and says he's sent the money. He urges the goon to take the money and clear out of town for a few days just to be on the safe side.
Then Ahole calls Lupita and says he heard a rumor that someone messed up the fonda. Well, what do you expect in that kind of neighborhood, he gloats. He hints that perhaps it's a "message." Lupe knows the "message" came from Ahole and angrily reminds him that his son lives here too. Ahole feigns innocence.
At the office, Mini brags to MA about the next magazine cover and tries to flirt with him. Mati shoos Mini away and tells MA he should fire her, but he's keeping her around in case there's still a chance she can help him uncover evidence against Ahole.
Gwendy and her clients have come to the fonda with their suspicions about Rita. Carmelita is still skeptical, but Chuy is more cautious. Lupe says Rita had no reason to do this, but Gwendy says maybe someone sent her to do it. (Dippy Perla thinks Rita took part in a train robbery in the US; Tizoc says that was just a movie. What's the joke? Was the Rita actress in that movie?)
Mati chats with MA. MA is worried about Emiliano. Mati says it's understandable that he's so enamored of his new daddy who's giving him the moon and the stars, and MA agrees that he'd be okay with this if only that daddy were a decent person. Mati says that a child is such a wonderful blessing that he can transform even the most awful person's heart. (Obviously she doesn't watch telenovelas.) MA is afraid it will be the other way around, but Mati tells him that Emi's heart is so good and pure, to just wait and see.
Rita arrives at the fonda, and Gwendy's clients want her arrested. Rita denies any part in the break-in, but refuses to explain where she was. There is a lot of ugly murmuring until Nepo arrives with Diego. Nepo looks at the subject of all the murmurs, and exclaims, "Rita?"
"You know this woman?" Chuy asks. "I'm his wife and Diego's mother," Rita replies.
MA meets with Saul and gives him a list of people who might have information about Ahole? I didn't quite catch this. He also asks Saul to find out which properties Ahole supposedly gave Mini in the divorce.
Back at the fonda, Rita calls Diego "Lalito." This is the name she wanted to give him, but Nepo insisted on naming him after that soccer star. All she wants to do is talk to Diego.
Diego wants to hear what Rita has to say, but Nepo is adamant: "Diego Armando and I forgot about you long ago." Lupe says, "your son can speak for himself."
But the angry crowd is clamoring for an explanation. Rita says she "had her reasons" for leaving Nepo and Diego. Prince Charming jokes that women are like wrestlers; they knock the crap out of you and leave you bleeding on the floor, but you just can't live without 'em.
One of Gwendy's clients says, "see, this is why Diego is like that." Other people are making similar ugly remarks. A woman who abandons her husband is the lowest of the low, they say.
Nepo yells at Diego for wanting to talk to his mother. He thinks Rita should be arrested for abandoning him and Diego.
During a brief lull in the ruckus, Perla says to Tizoc, "wait till she finds out Diego is gay." Oops. She didn't think everyone would hear her.
Lupe disperses the crowd. Chuy and Carmelita apologize to Rita, and she's decent about it.
At the prepa, Tato is betting - literally - that Frida will beg him to take her back. He's trying to get his friends to wager on it. Frida arrives and says she wants to talk.
At the fonda, Perla is trying to convince Carmela and especially Lupita that just because someone's been gone for a long time doesn't mean they can't be a good mother... or FATHER, like Ahole, who's such a great dad. Lupe says Diego is old enough to make his own decisions, but Emi is young and Ahole can put ideas in his head.
Frida asks Tato if he ever loved her. He says they had good chemistry and liked a lot of the same things, like sushi. He tells Frida not to mince words; if she's sorry she let him go, all she has to do is say so. And Frida is like, oh hell no. She wants something deeper and more mature than that. And she leaves.
The fonda repairs progress dubiously fast. The neighborhood is having a street fair soon. Prince Charming asks Chuy to help them organize a wrestling exhibition for the fair. Perla plans to be crowned queen of the neighborhood. Tizoc thinks Tay will give a concert. (Nobody buys his claim that he can't help them paint the walls because the fumes will harm his "oral cords.")
At Nepo's house, Nepo is still hollering at Diego. "Don't you remember how she abandoned us?" No, he DOESN'T remember because he was just a little kid! Diego storms upstairs. Gwendy asks Nepo if he felt anything for Rita when he saw her, but Nepo feels nothing but anger. "NO NO NO NO NO NO NO! LEAVE ME ALONE!!!"
The fonda is already looking a lot better. The Menchacas thank the wrestlers and other friends who've been helping. Lupita brings out a tray of sandwiches and nearly swoons. Only Carmela notices. Lupita says it's probably just the fumes and lack of sleep, but neither she nor Carmela believes that's all it is.
Rita goes to Gwendy's salon to apologize. Gwendy asks Rita if she wants Nepo back. Rita says no - she only wants to talk to Diego. She's not interested in Nepo. (She's been there, done that, and fled to another country, so I believe her.) Gwendy asks Rita why she left.
On the street, Tizoc runs into his old bandmate Pelambres. Even with his relative's help, the band never quite made it. He congratulates Tizoc on his success as Tay, which Tizoc admits was only due to his BIL's help. Tizoc and Pelambres are both disillusioned with the music industry.
Chuy finds Lupe talking to her mother's photo. Chuy says Lupe is just like her mother; she's strong and she never gives up. She can face anything.
Anything? We'll see.
Next day: Lupe is at the clinic. She's had an ultrasound, and the results are in. The doctor says she doesn't need a CT scan because she's not over 40; the ultrasound should be enough.
The doctor opens the ultrasound report, and a look of profound horror crosses his face. What are the odds that he's only reacting to the radiologist's poor penmanship?
Next Time: We're in ultimos capitulos! Mati demotes Ahole to manager (of sales, I think). Lupita shares bad news with Carmela.
Reruns from Friday: Tizoc and Frida "agree" that they aren't in love because they don't think of one another all day long, and Frida doesn't tell him about the pregnancy. Ana Sofia's swell friends bid bitchy goodbyes and say they'll be in touch. Ana Sofia complains to MA that Mati's dinner with the Menchacas interfered with her own plans to worm her way back into the good graces of the buena gente.
MA has already heard Mati's side of the story. Mati didn't know AS was planning a party that same evening, and it's Mati's home too. She has every right to invite people over. As for friendship, well, the Menchacas certainly are their friends; they helped them out when the swell friends didn't. As usual, his words go in AS's one ear and out the other; she hopes never to see the Menchacas again.
In La Nopalera, the Menchacas assess the damage to the fonda. The kitchen and dining area are thoroughly trashed; even the walls have been vandalized. But the rooms upstairs appear to be untouched, and nothing seems to be missing. Lupe mentions that she learned her lesson when the 300,000 pesos were stolen, and now all their cash is safe in a bank account.
But Rita's not home.
And Ahole is on the phone with an unidentified person who has confirmed that the job is done.
Mati chats with Frida. Frida needs to make a decision soon, and she needs to be sure. Mati will support her no matter what. Frida's not even sure how to decide.
Nepo chats with Diego. Diego is still considering a job opportunity coaching soccer in another city. He is sad, but he won't confide in his father because, as he sadly tells Nepo, there's not much for him to say that Nepo's willing to hear.
Now Mati chats with Leo. At first he is hesitant, but she says he can talk to her about anything. "Oh my gay," Leo quips. She reassures him. He says Mexico and lots of places are tough places to be gay because of people like Nepo, but in New York it's no big deal. Mati reminds him that he can be himself here among his family and the people who love him.
The police have been slow to arrive at the fonda because they were out on a bunch of calls - they try to confuse the Menchacas with a list of numbered codes, but someone (Tizoc?) recognizes one of those codes as meaning a sandwich break. Chuy thinks the break-in was motivated by something more than a typical grudge, and he doesn't think it was just local hooligans either because that's not how it is in this neighborhood. The police aren't very helpful, and tell Chuy to file a report at the station if he wants to.
Emi tells Lupe he's too nervous to sleep. He'd feel safer living with Daddy. He's got a whole staff to keep him safe. (And he needs it!) Nice try, kid.
Morning. Carmelita tells Gwendy about the break-in. They reluctantly consider Rita as a suspect, but they're not committed to the idea. Yet.
Cleanup begins at the diner. It seems Rita still hasn't come back yet, and Perla raises the question of her involvement.
Chuy's old wrestling buddy and romantic rival, Chilly Killer, shows up and offers to let bygones be bygones; wrestlers stick together and help each other out. He and some wrestling friends (I don't remember who's who, so maybe they're Wifi and Bluetooth et al). Perla seems to take a shine to one of the younger guys. I don't catch his name, but he has some lines later on, so I'll call him Prince Charming and I hope Perla gets together with him so that Tomas can be free to find a novia who's a better match for him (see how tactfully I said that?).
The gossip about the fonda has already spread far and wide. At Gwendy's salon, one of the clients is going on and on about how Rita has been asking lots of questions about everyone in the neighborhood. Plus, she used to be a WRESTLER and the client considers this a bad thing.
And, the client adds, Rita's been lurking around Nepo's fruit stand. Gwendy begins to worry. Then Diego shows up with a gift of fruit, and Gwendy remembers that Nepo's BIL is a policeman.
Ahole is on the phone again with the unseen goon and says he's sent the money. He urges the goon to take the money and clear out of town for a few days just to be on the safe side.
Then Ahole calls Lupita and says he heard a rumor that someone messed up the fonda. Well, what do you expect in that kind of neighborhood, he gloats. He hints that perhaps it's a "message." Lupe knows the "message" came from Ahole and angrily reminds him that his son lives here too. Ahole feigns innocence.
At the office, Mini brags to MA about the next magazine cover and tries to flirt with him. Mati shoos Mini away and tells MA he should fire her, but he's keeping her around in case there's still a chance she can help him uncover evidence against Ahole.
Gwendy and her clients have come to the fonda with their suspicions about Rita. Carmelita is still skeptical, but Chuy is more cautious. Lupe says Rita had no reason to do this, but Gwendy says maybe someone sent her to do it. (Dippy Perla thinks Rita took part in a train robbery in the US; Tizoc says that was just a movie. What's the joke? Was the Rita actress in that movie?)
Mati chats with MA. MA is worried about Emiliano. Mati says it's understandable that he's so enamored of his new daddy who's giving him the moon and the stars, and MA agrees that he'd be okay with this if only that daddy were a decent person. Mati says that a child is such a wonderful blessing that he can transform even the most awful person's heart. (Obviously she doesn't watch telenovelas.) MA is afraid it will be the other way around, but Mati tells him that Emi's heart is so good and pure, to just wait and see.
Rita arrives at the fonda, and Gwendy's clients want her arrested. Rita denies any part in the break-in, but refuses to explain where she was. There is a lot of ugly murmuring until Nepo arrives with Diego. Nepo looks at the subject of all the murmurs, and exclaims, "Rita?"
"You know this woman?" Chuy asks. "I'm his wife and Diego's mother," Rita replies.
MA meets with Saul and gives him a list of people who might have information about Ahole? I didn't quite catch this. He also asks Saul to find out which properties Ahole supposedly gave Mini in the divorce.
Back at the fonda, Rita calls Diego "Lalito." This is the name she wanted to give him, but Nepo insisted on naming him after that soccer star. All she wants to do is talk to Diego.
Diego wants to hear what Rita has to say, but Nepo is adamant: "Diego Armando and I forgot about you long ago." Lupe says, "your son can speak for himself."
But the angry crowd is clamoring for an explanation. Rita says she "had her reasons" for leaving Nepo and Diego. Prince Charming jokes that women are like wrestlers; they knock the crap out of you and leave you bleeding on the floor, but you just can't live without 'em.
One of Gwendy's clients says, "see, this is why Diego is like that." Other people are making similar ugly remarks. A woman who abandons her husband is the lowest of the low, they say.
Nepo yells at Diego for wanting to talk to his mother. He thinks Rita should be arrested for abandoning him and Diego.
During a brief lull in the ruckus, Perla says to Tizoc, "wait till she finds out Diego is gay." Oops. She didn't think everyone would hear her.
Lupe disperses the crowd. Chuy and Carmelita apologize to Rita, and she's decent about it.
At the prepa, Tato is betting - literally - that Frida will beg him to take her back. He's trying to get his friends to wager on it. Frida arrives and says she wants to talk.
At the fonda, Perla is trying to convince Carmela and especially Lupita that just because someone's been gone for a long time doesn't mean they can't be a good mother... or FATHER, like Ahole, who's such a great dad. Lupe says Diego is old enough to make his own decisions, but Emi is young and Ahole can put ideas in his head.
Frida asks Tato if he ever loved her. He says they had good chemistry and liked a lot of the same things, like sushi. He tells Frida not to mince words; if she's sorry she let him go, all she has to do is say so. And Frida is like, oh hell no. She wants something deeper and more mature than that. And she leaves.
The fonda repairs progress dubiously fast. The neighborhood is having a street fair soon. Prince Charming asks Chuy to help them organize a wrestling exhibition for the fair. Perla plans to be crowned queen of the neighborhood. Tizoc thinks Tay will give a concert. (Nobody buys his claim that he can't help them paint the walls because the fumes will harm his "oral cords.")
At Nepo's house, Nepo is still hollering at Diego. "Don't you remember how she abandoned us?" No, he DOESN'T remember because he was just a little kid! Diego storms upstairs. Gwendy asks Nepo if he felt anything for Rita when he saw her, but Nepo feels nothing but anger. "NO NO NO NO NO NO NO! LEAVE ME ALONE!!!"
The fonda is already looking a lot better. The Menchacas thank the wrestlers and other friends who've been helping. Lupita brings out a tray of sandwiches and nearly swoons. Only Carmela notices. Lupita says it's probably just the fumes and lack of sleep, but neither she nor Carmela believes that's all it is.
Rita goes to Gwendy's salon to apologize. Gwendy asks Rita if she wants Nepo back. Rita says no - she only wants to talk to Diego. She's not interested in Nepo. (She's been there, done that, and fled to another country, so I believe her.) Gwendy asks Rita why she left.
On the street, Tizoc runs into his old bandmate Pelambres. Even with his relative's help, the band never quite made it. He congratulates Tizoc on his success as Tay, which Tizoc admits was only due to his BIL's help. Tizoc and Pelambres are both disillusioned with the music industry.
Chuy finds Lupe talking to her mother's photo. Chuy says Lupe is just like her mother; she's strong and she never gives up. She can face anything.
Anything? We'll see.
Next day: Lupe is at the clinic. She's had an ultrasound, and the results are in. The doctor says she doesn't need a CT scan because she's not over 40; the ultrasound should be enough.
The doctor opens the ultrasound report, and a look of profound horror crosses his face. What are the odds that he's only reacting to the radiologist's poor penmanship?
Next Time: We're in ultimos capitulos! Mati demotes Ahole to manager (of sales, I think). Lupita shares bad news with Carmela.
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Julie:
I am going to wait to comment on this episode. If the finale for this is on August 24th, that is a Sunday! Oh, My!
I am going to wait to comment on this episode. If the finale for this is on August 24th, that is a Sunday! Oh, My!
Recap is done! I thought it was going to be a lot shorter, but it looks like they're kicking off a bunch of new extra stuff to make sure we don't get bored during these final weeks (as if). Do we really need Lupita to be getting sick now?
Hmm... false pregnancy test... ultrasound... grandfather clause... the only way I can see this illness would be relevant to the story now would be if she's either got a weird type of pregnancy or a tumor/mass that renders her... sigh... sterile.
But with Mati in control of the company, I don't know if the clause need ever matter again.
Hmm... false pregnancy test... ultrasound... grandfather clause... the only way I can see this illness would be relevant to the story now would be if she's either got a weird type of pregnancy or a tumor/mass that renders her... sigh... sterile.
But with Mati in control of the company, I don't know if the clause need ever matter again.
Thanks, Julie for a great recap of a not too great episode.
The Lupita medical situation: to me it looks like a psa for early breast cancer detection because Lupita asks if she needs a "mastografía" (mammogram)and the doctor says an ultrasound was enough not to need a "masto-mamografía" (mammogram) since she was under forty Then he looks at the ultrasound results. I don't like where this is heading.
I cannot stand Nepo anymore. Güendy needs to run far far away as fast fast as she can. Diego should have defied him on the spot and talked to his mother if he wanted to. Everyone is too ready to placate Nepo because of his temper which just feeds his poor impulse control. He is just like a kid throwing a tantrum. Maybe he needs some therapy. Rita was one lucky woman to get away from that.
Emiliano was a real brat.
If it continues like this for long, I will be more than ready for the gran final on a Sunday even! :)
Jarifa
The Lupita medical situation: to me it looks like a psa for early breast cancer detection because Lupita asks if she needs a "mastografía" (mammogram)and the doctor says an ultrasound was enough not to need a "masto-mamografía" (mammogram) since she was under forty Then he looks at the ultrasound results. I don't like where this is heading.
I cannot stand Nepo anymore. Güendy needs to run far far away as fast fast as she can. Diego should have defied him on the spot and talked to his mother if he wanted to. Everyone is too ready to placate Nepo because of his temper which just feeds his poor impulse control. He is just like a kid throwing a tantrum. Maybe he needs some therapy. Rita was one lucky woman to get away from that.
Emiliano was a real brat.
If it continues like this for long, I will be more than ready for the gran final on a Sunday even! :)
Jarifa
Permalink posted by 
: Tuesday, August 5, 2014 at 8:49:00 AM EDT
: Tuesday, August 5, 2014 at 8:49:00 AM EDT
Great recap, Julie!
yeah Leo's line 'Oh my Gay' was cute.
and the young guys who came to help the clean-up were led by the son of a famous wrestler... they mentioned the name when he introduced himself, and I was looking it up last night and saw some photos of the 'father' and some other famous wrestlers together in pictures, I just can't remember the name right now. Seems the 'dad' was working with the predecessor of WWE, back when it was several different companies.
The fact that the young guy had that wrestling legacy only made Chuy more moved that they were helping out.
yeah Leo's line 'Oh my Gay' was cute.
and the young guys who came to help the clean-up were led by the son of a famous wrestler... they mentioned the name when he introduced himself, and I was looking it up last night and saw some photos of the 'father' and some other famous wrestlers together in pictures, I just can't remember the name right now. Seems the 'dad' was working with the predecessor of WWE, back when it was several different companies.
The fact that the young guy had that wrestling legacy only made Chuy more moved that they were helping out.
Again UNIVISION graces us with censorship. What did Perla say that made everyone take notice?
I actually searched for that clip and this is what she said in Spanish:
"Ahora a ver si la jefa de Diego Armado no la arma de pelos por andar bateando del otro laredo."
Which loosely translates to:
"Now let's see if if Diego's mom doesn't get in a huff because he bats from the other side"
Frankly I did not think that was really worthy of censorship.
Now having said that, how is it possible that these two characters, Perla and Tizoc are soooo stupid? This goes beyond Mexico's educational system. This has to do more with how they are as individuals and the effort that they are willing to pu into themselves. It is plain to see that both of these characters are apathetic and lazy.
I contrast them with Lupita who neither is stupid or uses that slang. Come on, "toc model"? Perla so wants to be a top model and does not even make the effort to know the correct term?
These two characters really turn me off and I don't see any redeeming qualities in them.
Moving on to Lupita's illness. Wait, don't end the novella yet! We need to insert yet another social comment into it! Let's discuss breast cancer awareness!
I deduce that it is about breast cancer since Lupita was discussing ultrasound and mammography to which the doc mentioned that she did not need the later because she wasn't 40 yet.
Someone please educate me, since I flunked first semester oncology:
Is fainting and cloudy vision a symptom of breast cancer?
First, unless the story takes a radical turn and our heroine perishes, I am almost quite positive that it won't be fatal. In fact, with so few episodes left I don't think that she will actually have cancer.
The story has not made mention of anything odd that she might have discovered on herself so we are led to believe that she is at the doctor's because of the fainting and cloudy vision.
I can't wait to see what the results of her analysis are or where this subplot goes.
I actually searched for that clip and this is what she said in Spanish:
"Ahora a ver si la jefa de Diego Armado no la arma de pelos por andar bateando del otro laredo."
Which loosely translates to:
"Now let's see if if Diego's mom doesn't get in a huff because he bats from the other side"
Frankly I did not think that was really worthy of censorship.
Now having said that, how is it possible that these two characters, Perla and Tizoc are soooo stupid? This goes beyond Mexico's educational system. This has to do more with how they are as individuals and the effort that they are willing to pu into themselves. It is plain to see that both of these characters are apathetic and lazy.
I contrast them with Lupita who neither is stupid or uses that slang. Come on, "toc model"? Perla so wants to be a top model and does not even make the effort to know the correct term?
These two characters really turn me off and I don't see any redeeming qualities in them.
Moving on to Lupita's illness. Wait, don't end the novella yet! We need to insert yet another social comment into it! Let's discuss breast cancer awareness!
I deduce that it is about breast cancer since Lupita was discussing ultrasound and mammography to which the doc mentioned that she did not need the later because she wasn't 40 yet.
Someone please educate me, since I flunked first semester oncology:
Is fainting and cloudy vision a symptom of breast cancer?
First, unless the story takes a radical turn and our heroine perishes, I am almost quite positive that it won't be fatal. In fact, with so few episodes left I don't think that she will actually have cancer.
The story has not made mention of anything odd that she might have discovered on herself so we are led to believe that she is at the doctor's because of the fainting and cloudy vision.
I can't wait to see what the results of her analysis are or where this subplot goes.
Permalink posted by : Tuesday, August 5, 2014 at 9:24:00 AM EDT
: Tuesday, August 5, 2014 at 9:24:00 AM EDT
anon 9:24. i agree. if the suspicion that connects fainting and cloudy vision leads doctor to believe breast cancer, why a sonogram first? usually you get a mammogram and THEN a sonogram for any suspicious 'spots'.
I too don't want them to turn it into a social calling for women to test themselves...
i lean toward the faulty negative pregnancy test at first and she is indeed pregnant.
I too don't want them to turn it into a social calling for women to test themselves...
i lean toward the faulty negative pregnancy test at first and she is indeed pregnant.
My guess is that she went in for her symptoms and her doctor found something else that prompted the sonogram.
That's my story and I am sticking to it! : ). At least for now . . .
Jarifa
That's my story and I am sticking to it! : ). At least for now . . .
Jarifa
Permalink posted by : Tuesday, August 5, 2014 at 10:21:00 AM EDT
: Tuesday, August 5, 2014 at 10:21:00 AM EDT
Ooh, thanks for the tip about Perro Aguayo, Marta. No wonder Perla was making googie eyes at that guy.
It was strange to me that everyone was so nasty to Rita. Even if the hostility was more about leaving her child than it was about leaving Nepo, it seemed like they were ready to hang her without even hearing her side of it. I mean, out of pure nosiness you'd think they'd want to know. Not that she even owes them all an explanation, But surely all of those people have enough life experience to understand that these things aren't always simple.
It was strange to me that everyone was so nasty to Rita. Even if the hostility was more about leaving her child than it was about leaving Nepo, it seemed like they were ready to hang her without even hearing her side of it. I mean, out of pure nosiness you'd think they'd want to know. Not that she even owes them all an explanation, But surely all of those people have enough life experience to understand that these things aren't always simple.
Julie:
Thanks so much for this marvelous recap!
I am hoping there is nothing seriously wrong with Lupe. I hope it's just something minor, although I didn't like the look on that doctor's face, but that could be for dramatic effect!
I love the conversations that Dona Mati had with Leo and MA. I like how she gets them to see the whole picture so to speak.
I too felt that Rita got a bum deal with that crowd accusing and pointing fingers. I still really think that Nepo caused that, as Julie said she moved to a whole 'nother country, just to get away from him! I hope DA and Rita get to have a talk, to find out what really happened.
What is Frida going to do? I also liked the talk her and Dona Mati had. Can you just see Ana Chofi when she finds out? Porca Miseria.
I can't wait for tonight to find out what Mati has cooked up for Ahole now. This should be good.
Thanks so much for this marvelous recap!
I am hoping there is nothing seriously wrong with Lupe. I hope it's just something minor, although I didn't like the look on that doctor's face, but that could be for dramatic effect!
I love the conversations that Dona Mati had with Leo and MA. I like how she gets them to see the whole picture so to speak.
I too felt that Rita got a bum deal with that crowd accusing and pointing fingers. I still really think that Nepo caused that, as Julie said she moved to a whole 'nother country, just to get away from him! I hope DA and Rita get to have a talk, to find out what really happened.
What is Frida going to do? I also liked the talk her and Dona Mati had. Can you just see Ana Chofi when she finds out? Porca Miseria.
I can't wait for tonight to find out what Mati has cooked up for Ahole now. This should be good.
Actually... won't the finale be THREE hours? Because unless they double-up an episode somewhere, Monday the 25th would have been #164. So they'll have to show 164, 165, and 166 all on Sunday. Right?
Julie:
They may cut or combine, we'll have to see. I'm hoping if they do cut, it will be unimportant stuff.
They may cut or combine, we'll have to see. I'm hoping if they do cut, it will be unimportant stuff.
I can't imagine that they would cut out anything of substance during ultimos capitulos... but if they can save a full hour by trimming out a few homophobic comments from Nepo, another rendition of that cellular song by Tay, Perla saying something dumb, Mini throwing herself at MA, Vilma fawning over Ahole and not turning him in, etc. then I can live with that.
Thanks, Julie!
Guendy should fire all those clients and refuse to do their hair anymore until they learn to be more civilized. How do they feel qualified to judge Rita? They know nothing about her or her reasons for leaving.
And Nepo continues to be thoroughly self-centered and childish. He really expects Diego to have no interest in his own mother? Not to at least talk to her and get to know her, because Nepo is mad at her? If anything, Diego should be mad not that she left, but that she didn't take him with her.
I mean, I think abandoning your young child and not contacting him for so many years is a pretty bad and hard to understand thing to do, but I want to hear her reasons and what was going on with her. If she were my mother, I would want to at least try to have some relationship. And then if she turned out to be terrible after all, maybe I'd write her off then, but how could you not even give her a chance? I'm glad Diego isn't as hardheaded as Nepo.
Obviously Lupita is going to end up fine...it would be a real departure from tradition for the leading lady to die, especially in a comedy...but I wonder how dire they'll try to make us think it is in the meantime. Maybe the doc is looking at some sort of tests that show she can't possibly be a full sibling of Tizoc and Perla :).
Guendy should fire all those clients and refuse to do their hair anymore until they learn to be more civilized. How do they feel qualified to judge Rita? They know nothing about her or her reasons for leaving.
And Nepo continues to be thoroughly self-centered and childish. He really expects Diego to have no interest in his own mother? Not to at least talk to her and get to know her, because Nepo is mad at her? If anything, Diego should be mad not that she left, but that she didn't take him with her.
I mean, I think abandoning your young child and not contacting him for so many years is a pretty bad and hard to understand thing to do, but I want to hear her reasons and what was going on with her. If she were my mother, I would want to at least try to have some relationship. And then if she turned out to be terrible after all, maybe I'd write her off then, but how could you not even give her a chance? I'm glad Diego isn't as hardheaded as Nepo.
Obviously Lupita is going to end up fine...it would be a real departure from tradition for the leading lady to die, especially in a comedy...but I wonder how dire they'll try to make us think it is in the meantime. Maybe the doc is looking at some sort of tests that show she can't possibly be a full sibling of Tizoc and Perla :).
Wow who knew everyone would be so judgmental of Rita. The first time they met her everyone got good vibes but she isn't around when the vandalism happens and everyone turns on her in a snap and that was before Nepo showed up which might have given them a reason.
Unreasonable behavior by Nepo - maybe because we don't know why she left and that might be what caused him to become so rigid. After all she did leave a man with a small child to raise. If i were Diego I might want to know why she left but at his age I wouldn't be really interested in forming a relationship — for me that ship would have sailed. i just hope she gets a chance to tell her side of the story, since alas i'm as nosey as the neighbors,
Perla is a waste of space. After that conversation about the fair she was swanning about in the Fonda practicing her QE2 royalty wave. Hate to say it but the girl needs to have a reality check.
Lupe and the doc? Oh God another pregnancy, how trite and with a problem. I can't figure out what it could be It's not like novelas ever deal with things like deformed children or downs syndrome so it must be something involving Lupe herself. If this weren't a comedy and we weren't in final chapters I would almost fear the dread extension and an extended hospital stay.
Emiliano remains a spoiled brat and unfortunately for him is in for an almighty shock when he finds out what his perfect daddy really is. If he hadn't become so consistently rude and nasty I could almost feel sorry for him. Geez i'm in judgmental mood today. LOL
Unreasonable behavior by Nepo - maybe because we don't know why she left and that might be what caused him to become so rigid. After all she did leave a man with a small child to raise. If i were Diego I might want to know why she left but at his age I wouldn't be really interested in forming a relationship — for me that ship would have sailed. i just hope she gets a chance to tell her side of the story, since alas i'm as nosey as the neighbors,
Perla is a waste of space. After that conversation about the fair she was swanning about in the Fonda practicing her QE2 royalty wave. Hate to say it but the girl needs to have a reality check.
Lupe and the doc? Oh God another pregnancy, how trite and with a problem. I can't figure out what it could be It's not like novelas ever deal with things like deformed children or downs syndrome so it must be something involving Lupe herself. If this weren't a comedy and we weren't in final chapters I would almost fear the dread extension and an extended hospital stay.
Emiliano remains a spoiled brat and unfortunately for him is in for an almighty shock when he finds out what his perfect daddy really is. If he hadn't become so consistently rude and nasty I could almost feel sorry for him. Geez i'm in judgmental mood today. LOL
Permalink posted by : Tuesday, August 5, 2014 at 1:57:00 PM EDT
: Tuesday, August 5, 2014 at 1:57:00 PM EDT
I don't feel sorry for Emiliano, but I blame BOTH of his parents for the way he is now. Alejo for what he's been doing and Lupe for letting him get away with it. Sure, she's cutting him some slack for having deprived him of his father, but the instant he said the FIRST rude thing to ANYONE, she should have snatched the reins in and put a halt to it. Instead, she's let him get away with so much that he now feels he's entitled to much more and that he's somehow better than all of them ... a carbon copy of his jerk of a father ... and she's lost almost all control.
Permalink posted by : Tuesday, August 5, 2014 at 2:12:00 PM EDT
: Tuesday, August 5, 2014 at 2:12:00 PM EDT
Enjoyed the recap, Julie. Nice contrast between AS's snobby friends and the solidarity of the wrestlers coming to help Chuy in his time of need.
I hope Rita and Diego can talk and we can learn the back story there. In the earlier episodes we saw Mati's warmth; now we see her wisdom as she counsels the nietos.
I hope Rita and Diego can talk and we can learn the back story there. In the earlier episodes we saw Mati's warmth; now we see her wisdom as she counsels the nietos.
Julia: If anything, Diego should be mad not that she left, but that she didn't take him with her.
Yeah!!
Well, maybe Nepo would have preferred that too - to have been a childless bachelor again instead of a single father. (Of course he would never admit it.) It's convenient for him to be able to use that against her now.
Surely Rita could have hurt Nepo a lot worse if she'd wanted to. Like, tried to divorce him, take the boy, and get child support and alimony. And tell everyone in the neighborhood all of their business. The fact that she didn't means she just wanted out of his life ASAP and forever. It may have been more about her, or it may have been more about him; but it had to have been something pretty serious.
Yeah!!
Well, maybe Nepo would have preferred that too - to have been a childless bachelor again instead of a single father. (Of course he would never admit it.) It's convenient for him to be able to use that against her now.
Surely Rita could have hurt Nepo a lot worse if she'd wanted to. Like, tried to divorce him, take the boy, and get child support and alimony. And tell everyone in the neighborhood all of their business. The fact that she didn't means she just wanted out of his life ASAP and forever. It may have been more about her, or it may have been more about him; but it had to have been something pretty serious.
I can totally understand why she left Nepo. That seems obvious. What I don't understand yet is why she left Diego and had no contact with him for so long.
Maybe she meant to go find a job and get situated and then fetch him, but things didn't go well? Or she was in a coma? Or she tried to call and write but Nepo cut her off and she didn't have enough money to come visit? Or...?
Maybe she meant to go find a job and get situated and then fetch him, but things didn't go well? Or she was in a coma? Or she tried to call and write but Nepo cut her off and she didn't have enough money to come visit? Or...?
Knowing how Nepo is, he probably told her in a fit of temper to get out, expecting her to plead and beg to stay. Then when she did go to let him cool down, he accused her of abandoning them and wouldn't let her back in. Maybe she tried for years to come back but he stubbornly refused and now doesn't want Diego to talk to her and learn the truth.
Permalink posted by : Tuesday, August 5, 2014 at 3:11:00 PM EDT
: Tuesday, August 5, 2014 at 3:11:00 PM EDT
Maybe Nepo decided she didn't suit his narrow rigid vision of what his wife should be and he threw her out, and he knew some secret about her that was good enough blackmail material and threatened to expose it, and that is why she didn't dare come back. But maybe now whatever it was has been resolved or already outed or she decided she doesn't care anymore.
Maybe she came from a rich family that didn't approve of her marriage and son so she "had to" abandon them, according to telenovela law.
Maybe she found out she and Nepo were siblings so she left without telling him for "his own protection" and just found out they're really not.
Permalink posted by : Tuesday, August 5, 2014 at 3:21:00 PM EDT
: Tuesday, August 5, 2014 at 3:21:00 PM EDT
Maybe she's actually been locked up in an asylum all these years...either because she was really insane or because someone wanted her out of the way and drugged her to make her insane...and she wasn't a luchador at all, she just hallucinated that.
Amnesia! Yes. She was just going to the bakery to buy bread, but she tripped and hit her head and had severe amnesia, so then she just wandered off and found a whole other life for herself and only recently remembered that she had a husband and son in La Nopalera.
Okay, last one ... maybe she's really ... DUN, DUN, DUN ... El Alacran and she's been off doing double duty in Blue Water!
Permalink posted by : Tuesday, August 5, 2014 at 3:38:00 PM EDT
: Tuesday, August 5, 2014 at 3:38:00 PM EDT
All these theories are a hoot, maybe we should start a Crackpot theory round table her on Pobres. I enjoyed all of your theories on what has happened to Rita in all these years.
Thank you for the recap Julie!
I felt for Rita when everybody thought it had been her who trashed the fonda and also felt for Diego when Nepo didn't let him talk to his mother.
My youngest uncle on my mother's side is actually the son of my oldest uncle. He had him with his first girlfriend when he was a young teenager, she gave him to the family and my grandparents adopted him and raised him as his own. Whe my grandpa died my grandma told him the truth and years later, already in his late 20's, he searched for his mother and found her. Even then he still wanted to know her side of the story and try to have a relationship with her but she didn't receive him when he visited her house. He didn't try to reach her again.
So it makes so much sense to me that Diego, who may remember his mother from his childhood memories, may want to talk to her and probably have a relationship and it's just cruel of Nepo to refuse him that due to his own feelings and anger. That's the problem with Nepo, he's to selfish to want for Diego what he wants for himself.
Jarocha
I felt for Rita when everybody thought it had been her who trashed the fonda and also felt for Diego when Nepo didn't let him talk to his mother.
My youngest uncle on my mother's side is actually the son of my oldest uncle. He had him with his first girlfriend when he was a young teenager, she gave him to the family and my grandparents adopted him and raised him as his own. Whe my grandpa died my grandma told him the truth and years later, already in his late 20's, he searched for his mother and found her. Even then he still wanted to know her side of the story and try to have a relationship with her but she didn't receive him when he visited her house. He didn't try to reach her again.
So it makes so much sense to me that Diego, who may remember his mother from his childhood memories, may want to talk to her and probably have a relationship and it's just cruel of Nepo to refuse him that due to his own feelings and anger. That's the problem with Nepo, he's to selfish to want for Diego what he wants for himself.
Jarocha
Permalink posted by : Tuesday, August 5, 2014 at 4:40:00 PM EDT
: Tuesday, August 5, 2014 at 4:40:00 PM EDT
Thanks for this excellent recap, Julie. Good job.
So Lupe has been having sinking spells and the Dr. is doing breast cancer screening... I say good for him. It doesn't take long to ask a patient who comes in for whatever to inquire if she's up to date with routine health screening and proceed accordingly... good for him. Perhaps she has a strong family history for breast cancer. Do we know the cause of her mother's death?
I loved the way the wrestlers volunteered and pitched in to help the Menchacha's clean up and do repairs. Also, unlike some, I enjoyed Perla practicing her imperial wave.
While I agree that Nepo was extremely harsh with Rita as well as unreasonable in forbidding her to speak with Diego, he was after all smacked in the face by her reappearance after all these years, just, no doubt, as he likely was by her disappearance. I'm withholding judgement of both him and Rita until I know more. Julie, I love the idea of amnesia. You pointed out that we have already had the requisite coma (piddly and short-lived though it was), but I can't recall any amnesia unless we count Mati's memory deficits... isn't amnesia also pretty much a required element in TNs?
My heart continues to break for Frida. She is trying so hard to hold things together and seems so completely overwhelmed and vulnerable. Thank goodness for Mati.
Carlos
So Lupe has been having sinking spells and the Dr. is doing breast cancer screening... I say good for him. It doesn't take long to ask a patient who comes in for whatever to inquire if she's up to date with routine health screening and proceed accordingly... good for him. Perhaps she has a strong family history for breast cancer. Do we know the cause of her mother's death?
I loved the way the wrestlers volunteered and pitched in to help the Menchacha's clean up and do repairs. Also, unlike some, I enjoyed Perla practicing her imperial wave.
While I agree that Nepo was extremely harsh with Rita as well as unreasonable in forbidding her to speak with Diego, he was after all smacked in the face by her reappearance after all these years, just, no doubt, as he likely was by her disappearance. I'm withholding judgement of both him and Rita until I know more. Julie, I love the idea of amnesia. You pointed out that we have already had the requisite coma (piddly and short-lived though it was), but I can't recall any amnesia unless we count Mati's memory deficits... isn't amnesia also pretty much a required element in TNs?
My heart continues to break for Frida. She is trying so hard to hold things together and seems so completely overwhelmed and vulnerable. Thank goodness for Mati.
Carlos
Even if Diego were also furious with his mother and didn't want to make nice with her, I think it would be normal for him to at least want to find out what she's like for himself and know something about her. She is his mother, after all. He's lived long enough with her existence shrouded in mystery. Diego is not a guy who wants to stifle every thought and emotion and difficult subject the way Nepo does.
Perhaps Nepo is the way he is now because of what Rita did to him. To all intents and purposes he has done a good job of rasing Diego. I can see Diego wanting to know why she left and Nepo worrying that her reappeaance might hurt his son. In any event we are sure to have a couple of really good scenes when the story comes out.
Permalink posted by : Tuesday, August 5, 2014 at 5:22:00 PM EDT
: Tuesday, August 5, 2014 at 5:22:00 PM EDT
Carlos, now that you mention it, I believe Lupe's mother did die from some kind of cancer. I know it was a longish illness...
As for amnesia, I'm grateful to have encountered it in only a couple of TNs so far. There was a brief bout in Alborada, and a longer one in Fuego en la Sangre which annoyed me so much I had to stop recapping for a while.
(If there were any others, I'm grateful to have FORGOTTEN them!)
As for amnesia, I'm grateful to have encountered it in only a couple of TNs so far. There was a brief bout in Alborada, and a longer one in Fuego en la Sangre which annoyed me so much I had to stop recapping for a while.
(If there were any others, I'm grateful to have FORGOTTEN them!)
In Gancho we had fake amnesia from Beto.
Jarocha
Jarocha
Permalink posted by : Tuesday, August 5, 2014 at 6:39:00 PM EDT
: Tuesday, August 5, 2014 at 6:39:00 PM EDT
PS. It didn't last more than an episode or two.
Jarocha
Jarocha
Permalink posted by : Tuesday, August 5, 2014 at 6:41:00 PM EDT
: Tuesday, August 5, 2014 at 6:41:00 PM EDT
Thanks so much, Julie. I'm sorry to be so late commenting. I missed this episode, so I am grateful for the detailed recap.
As I thought, Rita was suspected of the vandalism. It makes sense. She's unknown and she just moved into the fonda. Glad that was cleared up rather quickly, but sad she was publicly raked across the coals for leaving Nepo (understadable) and Diego (I want to hear her story).
I have a theory about why she left. We joked about Nepo being gay, but I think perhaps it is Rita who is gay. That would explain Nepo's crazy reaction to Diego's sexuality, and would also explain why Rita would have felt she needed to leave Diego's life-- she probably felt like she wasn't worthy because she's a lesbian, and I'm also guessing that a custody judge in Mexico at the time would not have looked too kindly on a lesbian mom either. That's the best theory I can come up with, and it has a nice symmetry to it.
As I thought, Rita was suspected of the vandalism. It makes sense. She's unknown and she just moved into the fonda. Glad that was cleared up rather quickly, but sad she was publicly raked across the coals for leaving Nepo (understadable) and Diego (I want to hear her story).
I have a theory about why she left. We joked about Nepo being gay, but I think perhaps it is Rita who is gay. That would explain Nepo's crazy reaction to Diego's sexuality, and would also explain why Rita would have felt she needed to leave Diego's life-- she probably felt like she wasn't worthy because she's a lesbian, and I'm also guessing that a custody judge in Mexico at the time would not have looked too kindly on a lesbian mom either. That's the best theory I can come up with, and it has a nice symmetry to it.
That makes sense. Especially 20-ish years ago, she may have been treated very harshly and felt like she had no chance of being allowed to be a mother to her son, or even may have felt like she should go away from Diego for his own good, either because she questioned her own worth or because she worried how other people might treat him because of her. And it would explain, though not justify, Nepo's extreme freakouts over anything gay-related.
It's weird that people like Chuy don't know Rita from back in the old days. Unless Nepo and Diego moved to La Nopalera after that, or the families met later.
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It's weird that people like Chuy don't know Rita from back in the old days. Unless Nepo and Diego moved to La Nopalera after that, or the families met later.
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