Caray, Caray!

Poor German! Poor Ale! Poor Cris! :(
 

The recap is percolating and will be up shortly!!

Diana
 

You Always Hurt the Ones You Love – But Usually Not to This Extent

Part 1

Juliana cries to Manuel about German, yet there is no doubt her concern about her son is second to her self- centered absorption.
Norberto cruelly tells German he is not his father, that Juliana was pregnant with another man’s child and married Norberto only for financial security. German cries as Norberto reveals Andes is his father. He poisons the gaping wound by stating that rather than German being his primary concern, Andres’ loyalty is to Ulises not him.
Cris cries to Elena, confiding her heartaches with Esteban. Elena soothes and encourages her, assuring her all marriages have difficulties. Indeed…
Acacia and Esteban stand close together when overcome by yearning, they give in to their desire, as they wrap themselves in each other’s arms and share a hungry, passionate kiss. The omnipresent Rubio watches. Acacia comes to her senses, pushes him away and runs off with Este in hot pursuit. Acacia is distraught, berating herself and him as she tearfully reiterates he is her mother’s man. Strangely, that very thought escaped her only moments beforehand.
Rosa again berates Luisa as their reoccurring bitter battle of words over Manuel occurs yet again. Luisa cries in futile protest, the blackened mascara running down her face reinforcing her desperation. Rosa, so intent on her own heartache, fails to notice Cris is in abject emotional agony which she blindly interrupts to tell her how worried she is about Luisa. Although her own heart is breaking, kindly Cris assuages Rosa’s fears and tries to calm her as Rosa avows Luisa is her only family.
Juan Carlos sternly asserts that Esteban should not question his daughter’s fidelity. He states Cris has never given him any reason to doubt her and points to their happy years together.
Perla shares her heartache with young Juliana.
Crazed with grief, German shows up screaming for his mother. Manuel is there and tries to intervene. In utter frustration, German smashes a picture and to his credit, Manuel reinforces his bond with German, stating firmly and kindly he is his brother and friend. Meanwhile Juliana rails at Norberto which he counters by manhandling and slapping her. Juliana arrives home to find a distraught German and she begs for forgiveness. She takes a few tentative steps toward him as German cries “Maldito dinero” thinking once again that the lack of money has destroyed his life (wrongly assuming Ale is marrying Danilo for money). Juliana gives German an explanation – I believe she indicates her father was ill at that time (is that right?). She then says Andres was thrilled he is his father. Norberto shows up and tells German he is his only father. German leaves tormented and Norberto of course blames everything on Juliana who dissolves into tears. Thankfully, Juliana has an ample supply of self-pity as she will receive none from us.

Diana
 

I'll be back in the morning with a longer comment, but for now I'll just say Poor Germán. He basically cried the whole episode.
 

Part 2

Este is throwing down shots of liquor and guilt as Hector arrives. In his all too brief visit, Hector states Esteban is spending too much time with Acacia and as Esteban bristles in anger, Cris arrives. Cris asserts Esteban is a wonderful husband and asks Hector to leave as Este mutters not so softly under his breath.

Acacia alone in her room cries in torment and tosses a table. Ale comes in and Acacia ashamedly admits she did something terrible. She emotes Esteban is good, intelligent (apparently she is still deluded). Ale admits the terrible truth and although Ale is suitably appalled, she hugs her.

Acacia later finds Esteban in the living room and a staring match ensures. Acacia continues her rant and I think she says they must not tell Cris (?) Next, Acacia goes to her grandparents, babbling about Cris and Elena’s problems.

Andres and Carmen are trying to track down Nuria. Andres picks this most inopportune time to check his phone and mentions German. The name alone makes Carmen bristle and she begins her rant on German and her concern for her son. Andres, not having learned his lesson by bringing Andres up in the first place, tells Carmen he is his son. She is incredulous and even more livid, and leaves.

A most uncomfortable dinner ensues with the happy couple (plus one) – Cris, Esteban and Acacia. Esteban and Acacia’s hands intertwine inadvertently and they recoil as though burned. Acacia runs from the table after which Este announces he is leaving. Cris tries to speak with him and he tells her the reason he is leaving is Acacia. The reason but not the truth.

Acacia runs into Manuel and cries on yet another shoulder. She stumbles over her speech and Manuel tells her about German.

Cris stares at her wedding picture, a remnant of love and a forgotten happier time. Este arrives and with apologies, I did not comprehend their conversation but it ends with Cris sitting on the edge of the bed in tears.

Luisa and Ale are out with Rubio. Luisa cries to Ale about Acacia’s treachery. German shows up. Ale immediately goes to him, asking if he is OK. Clearly he is not. Ale spirits him away. Rubio pulls out his phone.

In another house of unhappiness, the reprehensible groom to be tries to appease Perla to no avail. He receives a text from Rubio alerting him Ale is with German. As Ale and German share a hug, Danilo arrives with lightning speed. German leaves as Ale cries.

Rubio sings and Luisa laughs sarcastically. Rubio’s voice is not terrible. Rubio announces he adores her.

Danilo and Ale arrive at his “house” as he shakes with barely controlled fury. He vacillates between anger and begging. Anger gets the best of him as he roughly grabs her hair and verbally abuses her as Perla watches with alarm. It appears he is going to rape her.

Previews: Este packs his bags and is leaving – he tells Cris it is due to Acacia.

I have combined several scenes for clarity and evens are not necessarily in order. Kindly fill in what I missed.

Diana
 

Another very sad episode for our beloved trio of German, Ale and Cris as you noted Vivi.

And TF, I think German cried in this more than Victoria Ruffo had in any of her previous TNs!

Have to get a few hours of sleep, will be back in the morning.

Thanks for posting the link Vivi!

Diana
 

Thanks, DIana. I won't be able to watch this episode until later after we get the little girls off to school.

From now on, it will be awful to watch Estedoomed interact with Acacia and Cris knowing that he killed Alonso. I have been trying yo figure out what his anvil will be and who will uncover his treachery. I hope that Hector continues to try to warn Cris about Estems "interest, in Ack. Yuck
 

Wow, Diana! This was a beautifully written recap. Your recaps get better and better.

So many tears for German. He called his parents out on being egotistical, using this situation to hurt each other instead of thinking of him. That was so spot on, but didn't seem to sink in with them at all. I was glad he and Ale talked, and he revealed to her that he feels that he is the reason for his parents' fighting and terrible marriage. Unfortunately, Ale has to pay a high price for those few minutes of comfort she gave him.

Darn it, Rubio! You couldn't just focus on wooing Luisa and leave Ale alone just one night?!

Everyone was trying to leave the hacienda last night. Luisa said she was leaving, and Rosa said she was going with her. But Cris doesn't want them to go because they are like family, and she doesn't think Luisa should give up her studies. She wants to talk to Luisa before Rosa makes a final decision. Kudos to Rosa for putting Luisa first this time.

Acacia was trying to convince her grandparents that the three of them should go to San Jacinto and leave Este and Cris alone, but they refused because Cris and Este needs them more than ever.

And of course Este is leaving. We know the real reasons, but he's trying to throw the blame and guilt on Cris-- didn't she say that she wanted to spend more time with Acacia?; and some b.s. about how he can't trust Cris anymore.

Hector came to the hacienda to speak to Este to say what happened was his doing, that nothing happened, that Cris didn't and wouldn't betray him, and believes him to be the perfect husband. Which of course Hector knows he is not, and artfully brings up how much time and attention Este spends on Acacia, and not Cris.
 

I just realized that Ale listened to, comforted, and advised Acacia, Luisa, and German this episode alone, but has no one to share her terrible plight with.

Diana- Yes, you had it right that Juli said her father was sick at the time and they had debts, plus her parents had forbidden her from being with Andres since he was poor. Of course she takes no personal responsibility, but at least she defended Andres.
 

Thanks Diana.

Ok, so a few folks got their feelings hurt last night but everyone over did it except Cris.

Favorite part for me was as Esteban collecting his things from their bedroom she told him when he is ready to come back it may be too late.

German whines about decisions made for lack of money, that have ruined his life, but he has never had to go without. Did he forget the outpouring of love and concern for him just days ago when seemingly the whole town believed him dead? Guess so.

What does Ale expect would happen when she's constantly up in German's grill? Doesn't look like she really took Dandy Dan's threats serious enough.

Carmen's huff is stupid. Stop a minute and look out the window, you are in Miami, doesn't seem like his primary loyalty was German but Ulises and you.

Juliana just had a bad hair day.

Luisa is just a silly girl that crushed on one of the popular guys, gave it up for nothing, and got dumped. That is not Acacia's fault.

 

Vivi, thank you so much for your kind words.

"Ale listened to, comforted, and advised Acacia, Luisa, and German this episode alone, but has no one to share her terrible plight with". Yes, that is it exactly! Although German is hurting, there is no doubt that Ale has suffered with unbearable pain. Yet, the amazing thing is that her heart, loving and generous, remains pure and untainted.

And your remark about Rubio was spot on. Yes, when he pulled his phone out I could not believe it! He finally has his dream, a few minutes with Luisa with Rosa no where in sight and he chooses to waste his time by ratting Ale out!

Thank you for filling in some pivotal dialog.

The writers and actors are keeping us on the edge of our seats.

Expect the unexpected.

Diana
 

tofie, I love how you cut to the heart of the matter, directly without fanfare "Carmen's huff is stupid. Stop a minute and look out the window, you are in Miami, doesn't seem like his primary loyalty was German but Ulises and you>

Excellent point.

Some here have felt Carmen has been clingy, a sentiment I did not share. She did disappoint me last night though. Why is she directing her anger at German when there are others much more culpable.

Diana
 

And actually, German is guilty of nothing!

Diana
 

Tofie- I loved when Cris said it might be too late by the time he decides to come back. Este didn't like hearing that. Cris has admitted her fault in this for not heeding everyone's advice about keeping distance from her long ago ex, but has maintained that she did not disrespect or betray her husband. She's made her feelings very clear to Hector and ended their friendship. She's told Este how much she loves him. But she's not going to beg. I love that she has so much self respect.
 

Vivi, Cris is guilty of nothing and for me the only person I believe is really unselfishly in love and has the capacity to tell the truth. Problem for her is the believes others to possess the same capacity.

It is not youthful naivete but a deeper ingrained optimistic perspective.
 

Tofie- Yeah, I actually don't think there was anything wrong with Cris having a friendship and working relationship with her ex. I'm great friends with my exes. But I know some people don't think this is ok, particularly in more traditional thinking. Juan Carlos, for example, always thought it was a bad idea.
 

DIana..Thanks so much for that excellent recap. My first comment disappeared. As to first
Ioves, they can be a tricky business. At a class reunion, my first puppy love paid me a compliment. Later, when I Asked hub why he hadn't said anything, he replied, "Well, I didn't hit him, did I ? " Wait ?.What?
 

Oh no, Susanlynn. I forgot to select to get the emails of comments, so I didn't see your disappeared comment. I'll select it now.

So, I guess your hubby would be in agreement with Esteban and Juan Carlos about Hector. :)
 

Vivi..Hub is very mild mannered and never seems jealous, but there is just something about my puppy love that bothers him. The guy is a little conceited and has an annoying grin.
 

I finally watched this episode.The scene of Ewww-stebon chasing Ack in the field and grabbing at her was awful. Hey, some free advice for Ack...Maybe it would be a good idea now that you know that Stepdad is lusting after you to not wear those short, tight spandex dresses that barely cover the cash and prizes.
 

When Cris and Este were talking in the bedroom, all I could think about was...I want that bedroom. I love the open grillwork wall behind the bed and the beautiful patterned carpet. There is also a lovely paterned carpet in Ack's bedroom.
 

I hope that Hector, Elenita, and JC hover close to Cris. it is so hard for parents when their child is in a bad rekationship and bring mistreated.
 

Susanlynn- I see a few of your recently disappeared comments. Here they are:
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When Cris and Este were talking in the bedroom, all I could think about was...I want that bedroom. I love the open grillwork wall behind the bed and the beautiful patterned carpet. There is also a lovely paterned carpet in Ack's bedroom.

Posted by Susanlynn to Caray, Caray! at Fri Nov 14, 10:46:00 AM EST
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Vivi..Hub is very mild mannered and never seems jealous, but there is just something about my puppy love that bothers him. The guy is a little conceited and has an annoying grin.

Posted by Susanlynn to Caray, Caray! at Fri Nov 14, 10:39:00 AM EST
 

I cannot stand to watch Damnilo smarting all over Ake. Yuck... Watching him grabbing her and hugging her makes me want to hurl. Perla was eavesdropping in that last scene and seemed upset. Will she stop Damnilo from abusing Ale ?
 

Susanlynn- LOL! So it's more about that guy having a punchable face. :)
 

Thanks, VIvi. I have no idea why some of my comments stay and others vanish. ...frustrating.
 

Yes, Vivi. He was a gymnast and later became a gym teacher. We called him " Flex" in high school because..he was always flexing his muscles.
 

Ha! Flex. Well, there are worse things than having a puppy love/first love who's well built. (By the way, I saw your last vanished comment about vanishing comments.)
 

I wish that I could have understood every word of that conversation between Este and Hector.
 

Oh goodness. Susanlynn's comment disappeared so my last comment makes no sense. Here is Susanlynn's last comment:

Yes, Vivi. He was a gymnast and later became a gym teacher. We called him " Flex" in high school because..he was always flexing his muscles.

Posted by Susanlynn to Caray, Caray! at Fri Nov 14, 10:57:00 AM EST
 

After that dinner table scene with those glances passing between Ack and Este, do you think Cris has a suspicion of what is happening between them ?
 

Susanlynn "Perla was eavesdropping in that last scene and seemed upset. Will she stop Damnilo from abusing Ale ?"

Perla is probably psychologically damaged to the point of no return at this point. I do think she has some heart left although it is hardened due to the years of abuse she suffered. If she does help her, I will fervently hope even more for her salvaation.

Diana
 

Cris did seem to catch that moment when Este's and Acacia's hands touched and they jolted apart. I don't think she consciously understands yet, but it seems like it will later be part of an internal playback loop, just like when she caught them cuddling on the hillside.
 

Susanlynn's comment:

After that dinner table scene with those glances passing between Ack and Este, do you think Cris has a suspicion of what is happening between them ?

Posted by Susanlynn to Caray, Caray! at Fri Nov 14, 11:01:00 AM EST
 

I still don't think Cris has even an inkling of what is going on. I know she senses something, but the revolting truth is still eluding her.

Diana
 

Do you think that Este realizes that Hector has his number ?
 

So..who is going to start to unravel the mess that is Est?
 

I think that Este is getting very careless and out of control. He will be his own worst enemy.
 

I give up.
 

Susanlynn comments:

Do you think that Este realizes that Hector has his number ?

Posted by Susanlynn to Caray, Caray! at Fri Nov 14, 11:20:00 AM EST

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So..who is going to start to unravel the mess that is Este?

Posted by Susanlynn to Caray, Caray! at Fri Nov 14, 11:22:00 AM EST
 

Susanlynn- I think Este got really nervous when Hector mentioned how much time he spends with Acacia, but I don't think he knows Hector is on to him.
 

The only good guy connection that Hector has is German. Could he and Andres and German band together to figure out that Damnilo , Rubio, and Este are villains ? Uly needs to limp on back so that he and Art can join the good guys team to reveal the evil.
 

If Esteban would shut up, check his obsession for Acacia and resume with his wife the guy will be fine. None of these he will do. The wild card is will Acacia show any restraint? She and Esteban know it wrong but you can see both working through it in their heads, Acacia at the point of desperation.
 

Diana – Your title is hilarious! Fine, witty recap. My favorites:

Acacia is distraught, berating herself and him as she tearfully reiterates he is her mother’s man. Strangely, that very thought escaped her only moments beforehand.

Thankfully, Juliana has an ample supply of self-pity as she will receive none from us.

Este is throwing down shots of liquor and guilt as Hector arrives.

Enjoying all the comments. I’ve got a delayed reaction to that kiss because yesterday I thought it was Acacia’s fantasy. By golly, they got to 2nd base with the bodies intertwining in that kiss! I give Acacia props for at least confessing the truth to Ale and trying to leave the house with her grandparents. But the excuses she gave Ale – being hurt by Uli, Esteban having the qualities she wants in a man and helping her through tough times, yada-yada-yada – was sickening. Ale was wise to gently ask if Esteban forced her, and Acacia conceded it was mutual. But as folks here have pointed out, hasn’t Esteban been grooming her along?

I don’t like Esteban for many reasons, but making Cris think their separation is her fault really ticks me off.

Perla was eavesdropping in that last scene and seemed upset. Will she stop Damnilo from abusing Ale?

Susanlynn, I've got my fingers crossed that Perla is about to drop-kick Danilo. Earlier, Perla finally had the sad revelation that she had wasted her youth under Danilo’s thumb. She urged Julianita not to do the same and to escape.

So sweet when Rosa said she would leave with Luisa. This had to be a scary thing for Rosa to do, being at the hacienda all her life and her fear of anything new. Of course, I expect Cris will talk Luisa out of this plan.

I’m giving Carmen a break because she’s crazed over her missing son. I can imagine she’s had no restful sleep since Ulises disappeared. Poor Andres is a saint for his patience with her.
 

Niecie, thank you very much - I always love your comments and insight.

"Ale was wise to gently ask if Esteban forced her, and Acacia conceded it was mutual". I did not understand she posed that question. It makes sense that would be the first question she asked. More proof positive of her still tender heart and loving nature.

I will be crushed if anything happens to Ale. She is the heart to German's soul.

Diana
 

I think this latest news was the last straw for Carmen. She has been under enormous pressure.
 

Susanlynn said:

I think this latest news was the last straw for Carmen. She has been under enormous pressure.

Posted by Susanlynn to Caray, Caray! at Fri Nov 14, 12:13:00 PM EST
 

Would the writers let Ack sleep with her father's killer ?
 

Thanks, Vivi,......, groan
 

Susanlynn said:

Would the writers let Ack sleep with her father's killer ?


Posted by Susanlynn to Caray, Caray! at Fri Nov 14, 12:15:00 PM EST
 

Susanlynn- Well, since I'm not doing much at the moment, it's no problem. It's actually kind of fun to see which of your comments actually come through. But I also feel your incredible frustration to see how many of your comments disappear. It's maddening!
 

I agree that Carmen's reaction to Andres first keeping contact with German, and now finding out he's his son is all about the incredible strain she's been under with a child missing, the police not searching and instead putting an arrest warrant out for him, and everyone in town turning their backs on her son, or refusing to takes a side (like German) so as not to upset the people going after Uli.
 

If Ale really wanted to protect German she should have left the guy alone. On the other hand I don't understand why German would listen to a thing she has to say, he doesn't know her reason. Come on German, I know you are a sensitive guy but stiff upper lip.
 

Tofie- I'm not going to be hard on Ale. Other than her brother, German is the first person she's ever really let deep into her heart-- the only person who's ever made her truly happy since her brother. She sees him crying, she's not going to be able to resist trying to help.
 

Didn't mean to come off harsh with her but she should accept the unfortunate decision she was forced to make. My fear every time they are together is that Dan will totally flip and go on a rampage. (looks like she's gonna pay now) It's like she kicks the hornets nest inadvertently every time she sees him.
 

My prayer is for Perla to kill Danny in his sleep, she is nearly at that point, to blame him instead of Ale.
 

If the writers let this marriage happen between Dan and Ale, I think things will get very ugly in that house, and Ale will be cut off from her friends (and German). It will be interesting to see how Ale, Perla, and Dan live under the same roof. Something's got to give, and someone's going to blow.
 

I found myself agreeing with Manuel, when he told German at least now he knows why German is the son Juliana dotes over (which implied German also now knows why Norberto was so hard on him). I was nodding my head "that's right," but I guess for German the emotions are too raw just yet.
 

Juliana may dote on German, but she babies Manuel. Meanwhile, Norberto spoils Manuel, and is downright abusive to German. But I agree, that it helps to know the real reason behind that family dynamic. However, right now German is blaming himself/his existence for his family's dysfunction, and he needs to get to a place where he realizes that their issues are not his issues.
 

Great point Vivi, actually the disclosure should be liberating to German
 

Wonderful recap, Diana, with lots of great lines. Funny title – good one!

And I’m loving all the comments.

Thank goodness for this terrific cast. Victoria Ruffo has such wonderful strength and dignity. I can imagine how this whole thing would fall apart if Chris was played as weak and weepy. Sabine Moussier is very moving as poor abused Perla.

I get scoffed at a lot for watching telenovelas (“I’m learning Spanish!” I tell the scoffers) but I think that the quality of acting in these things is unappreciated. For me, the acting is one of the big draws, beating out most of what we get in English-language TV. When you think that so many of these actors are also astonishingly handsome/beautiful, and that so many can sing as well…. It’s truly amazing.

I’m thinking that for the actors the upside of the grueling filming schedule is that they get to create a character in great depth. They have hours and hours, weeks, months even, to build their character. At the same time, they are getting hours and hours of acting, which much hone their skills. How many actors in other media get to put in that amount of time performing?
 

i love seeing the actors and actresses in different roles
 

Maggie- A few weeks ago, someone on one of the other lines said that they weren't watching La Malquerida, even though they love Cristian M/Esteban, because of Victoria Ruffo. They were assuming that she's playing a weepy mother. I resisted butting in and telling that that VR's character is one of the best things about this tn, and that it's CM's character that we can't stand.
 

Thanks Maggie!

ITA that the overall acting in TNs is excellent and a wonderful way for actors to perfect their craft.

I have to admit I've always liked Victoria Ruffo (ENDA oh my)...but like you, Vivi and others am thoroughly enjoying her strong, likeable character here.

And Susanlynn, it is so interesting to seeing actors you despise in villain roles morph into characters you just can't get enough of. Julio Camejo on Hasta is a prime example.

Of course, the oppposite is true. I keep staring (even after all this time) at Alberto Estrella, wondering where handsome, debonair, charming Mario from Pasion went!

Diana
 

Novella lover, I hope you are still with us!

Diana
 

Diana – I didn’t see Pasion, but Alberto Estella has that ability to play sweet, and even appealing-looking, which makes his Danilo so wonderfully scary.
 

Thank you a lot Diana---Wow! What a last two episodes. This is fast becoming an all time favorite. It's complex and has so much going on. The story and characters
keep you hanging on every minute.
The writers and actors are doing a great job, now if Uni doesn't ruin it for us???

Ok I have read all of the comments
It's time to start some controversy.

Vivi---You said, she/Cris has made her feelings very clear to Hector and ended their friendship.
True but Este saw the BIG hug and heard the I have never stopped loving you comment. Yes, she told Hector, did she tell anyone else?
I'm not sure about that.

I'm beginning to dislike Juan Carlos. QUE?? I see him as a crusty, cantankerous old man that goes off way too often. Ulises hurt poor protected, spoiled Acacia. No he didn't. He doesn't know anything about the Cris and Hector thing but again he's spouting off. He's very opinionated but doesn't always have the facts or knows the story.

Susanlynn---I have read your many comments about Acacia's attire especially her skirts and must kindly disagree. Unless you belong to a nunnery or a strict Mormon sect of some kind, Acacia's
clothes are everyday normal. Young
women don't wear baggy pants today
those went out a long, long time ago. In fact I can't ever remember
any. Acacia's skirts are not mini's or even micro mini's, they are normal everyday skirts. Yes, they are tight but as with pants, women and young women don't wear baggy skirts. At least not those kind of skirts. Should straight skirts be banned? I have to ask,
have you been on the streets lately, to a mall, to a High School? I'm not trying to be mean
I'm just looking at today's reality.

My heart bled for Alejandra last night. That "not so evil" Rubio is the cause of her possible rape,
unless she can somehow get away.
Is she on birth control? The devil's baby? NOOOOOOOO!!! I kept telling Perla to grab his cane and bust it over DanEvil's head but will she? I will be surprised if she does. Does Perla have it in her after all her years of taking it? Will Perla risk her Possible new business? Will Perla risk being thrown out on the street? My guess is no to these questions. Can sweet Alejandra somehow escape the devil's grasp?
It's MUST SEE tv tonight for sure.

Niecie---You stated that what Acacia explained to Alejandra was sickening. Apart from DevilDan I thought that the devil's little disciple Rubio getting ready to ponce on sweet Luisa was just as sickening. That bastard has been waiting for the right moment and he finally caught her in a moment of weakness and is set to take full advantage of her. I could barely stand to watch. I hope that she is using her birth control pills. OMG! I would hate to see Luisa forced into a wedding to that lowlife because of a pregnancy.
the gringo




 

Hey Gringo! Yes, Cris told Acacia, Elena, and JC everything that happened. That's why JC was like, "I told you so." But what Cris and her parents are upset about is that Este refuses to listen to Cris's explanation of what happened, and flat out called her a cheater and a liar when she said she and Hector aren't having an affair. That's what Cris and JC are calling Este out on.
 

The extreme way Este is reacting to the hug, and the way he's making it seem, is as if he had caught Cris and Hector in bed...or in a major liplock like the one he just had with her daughter.
 

Gringo – I enjoyed your comments, particularly the part about short skirts. To me, Acacia looks okay. She looks like an anime girl, with a certain child-like quality. It’s Ale’s skin-tight super-short skirts that worry me. That’s sure not what young women are wearing to work. Also, abused women often try to make themselves unattractive, and cover up. Plus Ale knows Evil Dan could drop in at any time.

Speaking of attire – what cracks me up is how perky Acacia’s boobies are when she’s in a nightie, lying flat on her back in bed. And also that no matter how distressed she is, her lipstick is in place with lots of gloss applied. Also, her mascara never runs when she cries, but Louisa’s does. I guess the point is that Louisa can’t afford the good stuff.
 

gringo, reading your impassioned, well thought out comments makes my day.

Your points on Juan Carlos may be the slightest bit harsh :), but I understand what you are saying although I think he is a fierce defender of his family. I wish I had someone like him growing up.

You are right about Rubio and I can only speak for myself when I state I had allowed my affection for the actor color my judgement. Yes, his alerting Danilo was despicable and he takes a huge share of the blame for what surely is a tragic night for Ale. I am going to work harder on separating the actor from the role.

I went to a private girls academy where we wore uniforms, beanies (real ones) and my high school senior privilege was wearing a pullover sweater. I had my knuckles rapped with a ruler on more than one occasion and got sent home for "major" infractions including wearing a shirt with a peter pan collar rather than the regulation one. Honest! Of course, let's say that was many, many years ago.

I havew nothing against short skirts or bikinis. I just think a few of Acacia's outfits have crossed the line. Susanlynn's quote Acacia had showed all "her cash and prizes" made me smile and nod in agreement.

Diana
 

hi, gringo...I taught in a senior high school and now I am teaching at a community college. I have never seen any of the girls wear anything as short and tight as Acacia and ALE. i have worn mini skirts, but anything that short and tight is impossible to sit down in without showing what you should not show in publc. Most of the girls wear jeans or slacks.
 

Ugh. I think Rubio takes pleasure in ruining things. He's covering up for Estebonkers AND aiding Dan.

The saddest part of last night was when Dam told Ale "say goodbye to your friend" and she just stares sadly at Germán and he walks away with tears rolling down.

I wonder how Este's leaving will affect Cris and Acacia. I doubt he will be gone for long. Eventually he will go back to the hacienda.

I think Carmen overreacted. Andres and German do care about Ulises. And Andres has no interest in Juliana. I bet Norbie will right about what he said to Juliana that Germán will hate her.

 

TF...Yes, Rubio is aiding both bad dudes. I do not think that he will survive.
 

Rubio is an opportunist and working multiple people and angles and will jump at the first chance to hit the lotto. He's been clever and one step ahead not to do anything threatening that will get him killed. What amazes me is how he keeps his job because he is eavesdropping or popping up everywhere.

I see some of the younger women here in Florida try to work the tight short skirts but mostly see them headed to a club and not the work place. Acacia's more than any of those Ale wears and that blue thing last night with the slits on the side, uh no, I see those on Mexican TN's only or covering a bikini at the beach.

 

Diana---The California girls--well
I'll just say that it isn't all that rare to see some panties hanging out from under the mini's in the malls. Acacia's skirts are tight but they are nowhere near mini or micro mini length. Packages on display are often seen
in Southern California so that's reason for my Susanlynn comment. Come to California but you had better wear dark sunglasses if you are offended by mini's.

Maggie---Your comment about acting caught my eye. I have never been a movie buff. I had always liked movies but I paid attention to the story not so much the acting. That all changed when I found a novela one day by accident. That one led to another and another. What I am trying to say is that the novela acting just grabs me and won't let me go.
Some of the acting is just beyond,
well, just beyond great. I'm a novela junkie now.
the gringo
 

The blue mini dress Ale has been wearing the last two episodes is very tiny, but all I keep thinking when I see her is, wow, Africa Zavila has GREAT legs! I'm sure male viewers were even more appreciative. :)
 

Gringo...Maybe it is a regional thing. I live in the Northeast....it gets cold. Last night, we had our first dusting of snow , and today it was 40. Brrr
 

Susanlynn wrote:

Gringo...Maybe it is a regional thing. I live in the Northeast....it gets cold. Last night, we had our first dusting of snow , and today it was 40. Brrr


Posted by Susanlynn to Caray, Caray! at Fri Nov 14, 05:48:00 PM EST
 

Diana, thank you for recapping this pivotal epi.

Vivi, thanks for posting the discussion page.

Very interesting capitulo last night. I felt horrible for German and Ale. I hope they have a happy ending. I really enjoy watching this storyline unfold.

I am very anxious to see Cris' reaction when she finds out about Este's feelings toward Acacia and vice versa. I know this won't happen for a while though, but I'm anxiously waiting.

I too have noticed the short skirts. My opinion is that I'm jealous. I wish I could pull that off. I agree Vivi, the actress playing Ale has nice legs. What I have noticed is that Cris never wears skirts, except when she got married.

Out of time, back to work.
Hasta pronto!