Caray, Caray!

Thanks, Cynderella for the entertaining recap of a blah episode. Love your shower scene decision.

Patricio was so creepy with the roses. He made my skin crawl.

Will Lucas learn his lesson this time? Maybe he will have to flee the city and we will never see him again? I can only wish.

The only saving grace was Fausto.


Jarifa
 

I'd prefer Peralta's thugs kill Lucas so we don't have to see him ever again.


 

Re: Shower scene for Zapata. And when he DOES do a shower scene I presume we can also see Sofia begin to moonlight as a Victotia's Secret runway model? We fellas have needs too :-)
 

Kirby, 'eh I'm sure that she would look very lovely in Victoria Secret clothing. Since I am a straight female, I don't care. :^) If you want to see that, become a Thursday recapper and state your demands. :^)
 

Jarifa, I loved Sophia last night! She was hilarious when she had a temper tantrum in front of Fausto!
 

Cynderella, I laughed out loud at your title. Thank you! Your snarkilicious recap was a most welcome treat this morning.

"Oliver (aka Dulliver)" was my favorite. I agree with Jarifa this wasn't the most exciting episode to date, but love that you made it such great fun.

Steve, I also enjoyed your comment about Lucas. If he disappears, will anyone care?

The whole scenario of "Chava's women" is so preposterous to me, I just can't take it seriously.

Diana
 

Cynderella, temper tantrum is the perfect description. This whole thing is just getting goofy, without intending to.

Jarifa
 

Love it Cynderella.

"Stalker Dani tells boring Oliver (aka Dulliver)"

What's weird for me is I would never believe the old Chava a real playa but do the new. Guess that was the point in casting David.

Wonder if there is any significance in the new bench scene shot in an unkempt field and not a manicured garden?

Thought it funny that Patricio billed the company for all the roses delivered to Sofia.

How in the world does Lucas think he will return the next morning to collect Marisol's and Matias' winnings? The guy is still a punk.

 

No! The characters have always referred to Chava as handsome or a ladies man. That is what was annoying me about (Pedro) Chava! I've said this several times, but obviously no one was listening to me. The character Chava is supposed to be a stud! Now that Zepeda is on, you are noticing it because the face has changed. The other characters have always described him as such! That's why women were always trying to touch him and the wedding party lined up to kiss him. I now feel vindicated. Everyone line up to apologize and kiss my ring! You first Jeri! :^)
 

I realize the intent was for Chava to be a playa and I was never convinced, however, Sofia with a playa like the new Chava, I don't buy. Sofia with Patricio (a playa), I do.
 

"Everyone line up to apologize and kiss my ring!"

You are cracking me up today.

Diana
 

Thanks for the recap, Cynderella!

Young, naive Lucas, with no father around to tell him stuff, doesn’t know that criminals rig boxing matches. I’m sure some young, naive boys realize that criminals rig boxing matches; but a son of Javier Cruz and an irresponsible mother would have two-and-a-half strikes. Thank goodness Lucas has Miguelina and Daniela to love him. Yes, I have not given up my theory that Javier cuckolded Miguelina’s son.

The Flor Gambit is just as disgusting as I thought it would be. Now Flor must die, too; and getting involved with Renzi ups her percentage chance of that materially. Flor must at least suffer. The body count in this show is mysteriously low so far, though. Of course, nothing much happens except potboiling; which is ok by me. I like potboiling. Also, thanks, so-called family and friends, for stepping up and adding your macho dos centavos to stoke Sofía’s fury. Big help.

Actually, maybe it was a big help, come to think of it; because Sofía’s tantrum was the second best thing about this episode. It was not really backed up by the facts, since by her actions so far she obviously doesn’t give a flying monkey about Salvador; but they needed Sofía to act incensed in order to have at least some excuse of a motivation to marry Patricio.

It’s been a while since I said I love Fausto; so…I LOVE FAUSTO. Thank goodness for one lonely logical voice in the desert. His conversation with Greta was so refreshing and unexpected, where he baldly tells her she was unhappy married to Octavio and she’s trying to make her daughters unhappy as well. Greta let him tell her that, which is a positive sign on her long road to recovery. I give her points for hearing out Fausto.

Salvador, pay no attention to the trumped-up jealousy behind the curtain. Armando is just trying to make you feel better by pointing out the one positive aspect of the Flor Gambit. Sofía is going to make you feel much worse before you feel better.

Oh, well, the inadvertent whipping Renzi got worked on Tavares and the boyz to boil the pot a little longer. Like five months longer. When is stuff like all that rose water going to make Silvana boil over; she is a patient woman. That’s obvious by how long she has worked her revenge angle. But it would be good to see some spillover soon; it would be good if she would start working against Patricio. Please, please; Patricio needs to get going on his downfall. Just a hint.

Diana, the best part of the episode for me was Lucas choosing self-respect over self-preservation. I actually loved his defiant win and flight. It’s not going to lead anywhere good in the short term, because I’m afraid the criminals are going to threaten Miguelina again. Lucas would cave for that; and if the criminals learn about Daniela, that would be a big sub-plot. They could kidnap Daniela for ransom. I am actually most interested in the Daniela-Lucas plot line going forward.
 

Yes, but Sophia didn't know he was a stud! Remember the bride? In the original version, Chava has sex with her in Sophia's car. He also has sex with the girl who came to his house on the motocycle! Sophia was not a virgin because both she and Silvana were sleeping with Patrick!
 

Cynderella, once again you are incorrect.

It was plainly stated and demonstrated in the early part of the show that EVERYONE LOVED Chava. He had wonderful charm, which he does not have now. David is not charming. He's awkward as Salvador.

Pedro's charm and talent is the reason all the women love him, on stage, in telenovelas, in real life.

Pedro's page at Facebook has 2.8 million Likes. David's had less than a thousand when I looked before; but now they have actually removed the number and don't show it anymore.

Look at that; your ring is from a gumball machine.
 

Ratings data: before Pedro left the show, it was getting good ratings, despite the onset issues. Ratings in Mexico were in the 20's and second only to Tuyo.
 

OK, so should I say I'm loving the verbal sparring?

Jeri, I'm glad you like Lucas. In all honesty, I just can't generate any enthusiasm for him. As a conniving grifter, he leaves Dani for not telling him the truth about her background? He has made many poor choices - I just can't applaud him not throwing the fight. I believe a good part of it was ego. I am afraid we will just disagree on this point.

But ITA with you on Fausto! I adore him and all his facial expressions and good, common sense.

Diana
 

I agree about Chava. Pedro's personality and body notwithstanding, I watch NASCAR and race car drivers are never lonely.
 

They need to restrain Greta to the bed along with some mouth-tape and send in a thirsty Fausto with a bottle of good scotch. We would enjoy the entire remaining episodes.
 

Diana, Lucas is very young and had basically no upbringing, except a short time with Miguelina's son and what a loving grandmother could give him. I cut him slack. :-) I am glad Daniela loves him so much.

I hate the personal verbal sparring. It has no place here. I'm glad to discuss the shortcomings of public figures, but loathe to discuss other posters unless it's something nice. It just goes against my grain -- in addition to the fact that trolling other posters is against blog policy.
 

Jeri, I apologize. I only wish to support here and will refrain from making any comments that might offend anyone.

Diana
 

Diana, no need to apologize, LOL! You are a supportive person, indeed.
 

I alway read the developments with excitement and the commenters' opinion of the happenings.

But I missed something: What is the new theme sound with Alejandro Fernandez like? Are you preferred it, or the old? :-)

 

All I have to say is if Sofa believed the "Flor from Michigan" silliness she probably will never believe her HR manager is Boinking her CFO. I'm waiting for Flor and Renzi to be spotted out in public together. IE: Flor finds out he aint who he says he is and everyone finds out that the mysterious Real Estate guy is suddenly dating Chava's ex.
 

So I don't watch this show but I love your title!
 

I am not incorrect! I am not talking about the real people. I know that I'm confusing people. I differentiate them by their real names. I'm saying that because Chava the character always was a slut. Because Pedro played him nice and was not a "looker", no one noticed how the other characters described Chava the Character. Now that Chava the character's face has changed we now notice. I'm saying that nothing has changed! Chava has always been a slur and ladies man. We only now notice because the face has changed. I've polished my ring. Pucker up.
 

Jeri, I apologize. I am only teasing you. I didn't think that anyone takes me seriously because we are discussing fake characters. I will no longer joke with you in this manner.
 

Carvivlie, please come back anytime!
 

Thank you Kirby, you get me!
 

I think there is something like a "purity" theme going on in this TN with respect to the character Chava.

I noticed that when Chava (DZ) got out of bed last night (due to his insomnia) he had an undershirt on - no bare chest. Now in any other TN in which our hero (DZ) appeared, the writers would have had him shirtless.

Cynderella, you may have to keep the shower scene up for the entire TN! :)
 

Cynderella, occasionally you are funny; usually you go too far. But...you may go about your business; these are not the 'droids we're looking for.

I would like to point out that this is not Dulce Amor; it's a Televisa production, written mainly in mind of a massively popular Mexican singer and actor that everyone there knows.

And it's just too bad it didn't play out that way.
 

Translation: the reign of terror continues until March 2015.
 

Patricio & Renzi had a hard time finding even one woman that had anything negative to say about the union manslut. If they want to perform a knock out they should poll the neighborhood again to see if any women will reconsider piling on after Flor's revelation.
 

Thanks Cynderella!

I don't think the Chava in this TN, as opposed to the one in Dulce Amor, was ever supposed to be a player. It was stated that women love Chava, but there has never been any hint that he was a casual bed hopper. I was under the impression that women loved him for his warmth and personality, not his sexual prowess. I don't believe the Chava in this TN would ever be that kind of guy simply because he grew up watching Javier and was so disgusted by his father's actions. It's important to remember that this TN is 'based' on Dulce Amor. It's not a copy so there will be changes in the characters.

Alejo P, The new theme song is okay, but not memorable like the original one.


 

Fausto seems to know all of the Ripoli family secrets.
 

You are correct; however a few chapters back, Chava himself admitted that he'd slept with a lot of women after Araceli had left him. I will find the episode. I've been too lazy to back watch because I'm also watching Sortilegio with my neighbor. I know that they change the characters from Dulce to Hasta, but they didn't change the description in some parts.
 

I know. It's my only joy! I can't understand why Chava keeps his clothes on and no one else does. Patrick, Lucas and Armando.
 

Boy, you must not have read my other recaps and comments. If you think that I "go to far" now! I thought I'd toned it down this year. LOL!
 

Cynderella, thanks for yet another hilarious recap. You manage to make me crackup and cringe... often at the same time. Well done.

I'm amongst those who prefer the rather pedestrian but charming Pedro to the pretty but wooden David. I'm still trying to rid myself of the memory of that enthusiastic wet but ultimately awkward kiss.

I'm late (as usual) to the discussion today and I don't fully understand what the heck some of you guys are talking about... Diana offensive? Please... Cynderella over the top? What's new?

Since it's late, please indulge me by allowing me to link to one of my earliest recaps (Gancho) which seems to contain some of the elements referred to in today's discussion (as best I can tell, anyway)... a possibly inappropriate title... a provocative shower scene photo... and lively discussion about a teenage boy pursuing an older woman... We all survived and are friends to this day.

Carlos
 

Carlos, I smiled as much re-reading your stellar Gancho recap now as I did when you originally created it several years ago. What grand fun - so wry, witty and just plain delightful.

Thank you amigo. Your sense of humor was and still is a treat for the sensibilities.

Diana
 

Carlos, I looked at your link, and as far as I can tell, it has no bearing on the situation.

No one was calling Diana offensive; it had nothing to do with shower scenes. Better to just let it drop, please.
 

@ Kirby, although Sofia is gorgeous, she is too big to be a super model, especially a VS model.

 

Hi Carlos! Thanks for your comments! FUNNY Title!
 

Whoa Carlos! How come I always get cussed out over my shenanigans and you can get way with everything? LOL! There would have been a week long bloods vs. Crips discussion over how horrible I was if I had ever written that title. You are so bad!
 

Anyone got the new recap cooking ?
 

Yup all Gretas' s secrets anyway. Too bad he keeps his mouth shut. He could solve a L O T S of mysteries couldn't he?
 

A side note: I am always curious about people who bicker about Spanish soap opera characters. They usually have about 17 cats and no man in the house. Just saying.......
 

Carlos, great to see you hear!

Matias and the new girl are my favorite couple. They just don't know they're a couple yet.

Here's what I remember from Wednesday's episode:

- Lucas is hiding under Dani's bed to avoid the mob and Fausto has just about discovered it.

- Miguelina got sick, so Chava and Sofia drove around searching for Lucas.

- Chava turns up at the boxing club and is threatened. (Maybe he'll take off his shirt to duke it out?)