Tuesday, February 24, 2015
Mi corazon es tuyo #154 2/24/2015 More of the fallout... Angel diagnoses Ana with Anxiety attack ... Nando bashes at Fanny and argues with Ximena. He is siding with his dad. Freeky finds out his answer from the Doctor.
Refritos:
After her convo with Fernando, Fanny heads over to Ana’s. Bruno gives good advice, give Ana AND your dad support.
Leon talks to Margarita and then remembers Enrique’s warning. Leon calls Fanny to alert her about Enrique.
Nando and Ximena at her place. And some smooching. A devastated Fernando asks Nando to come home to talk.
Fanny arrives at Ana’s and gives her a hug.
Lo Nuevo:
Nando arrives home with Ximena, asks her for a moment to talk to his dad. Goes in library.
Edith tells Lenin that Nando chose Ximena and she has cried enough for a Guinness record, leaking on downstairs neighbors. Later Lenin tells Edith he is hanging on with Fanny. He thinks Fanny is trying to tell herself she is over Leon.
Nando asks Dad the questions he is not in mood to answer, ‘why did she lie? She danced at an antro?’ Fernando needs a hug and Nando gives it. Nando is surprised that Fanny knew from the beginning.
Ana explains that she does know she betrayed Fernando. And that Fernando said she does not deserve the kids or his love. Not going to get married. She can’t even take the ring off her finger. Soledad finally gives some good advice, have to wait until Don Fernando gets over the initial anger/rage. Fanny gets the phone call from Leon warning about Enrique. So Ana finds out Enrique is on the attack. Bruno urges Fanny to come back home. She says Dad says she betrayed him. Bruno says don’t force the issue, esp with Enrique on the loose. He says Ana will understand.
At the mansion Manuela offers to care for DN and Fernando or Nando will move the baby crib to her room. Nando wonders what will happen with his siblings. They will die without Ana. Fernando is not prepared to deal with that. For now Nando suggests to tell them Ana is sick. Fernando not quite comfortable with that (lying to them).
At Ana’s place, she gets sick. Seems she is out of breath… She feels pain on her left shoulder and chest area.. (yikes!)
At Angel’s, Magda rings the bell at 4am. He is in disbelief. She is wasted from wine. And gets right to the kissing. He does not seem to be indifferent to it.
Fernando goes into the girls room. Leans on Luz, whispers ‘I am so sorry, my dear’. Luz awakes, he only came to kiss her goodnite. Alicia awakes, he repeats he only came to kiss them. Alicia notes he looks very sad. He claims only tired.
Nando gets back to Ximena, she notices he is sad/upset. He is not in liberty to talk about Ana. Fanny arrives at that moment and Nando walks to her nagging at her for betraying his dad.
Back at Ana’s, they are ready to take her to hospital. Soledad gets on phone, interrupts his Magda moment, Soledad tells him Ana seems to be having a heart attack. Angel is startled. He suggests they lay her down. Magda is a bit miffed of the timing of this emergency. Magda offers to drive him over there. He asks about Ana’s symptoms, pain and cold feeling… heart a bit accelerated (taquicardia). He says give her some aspirin. Did she have an emotional shock? ‘Yes, she did, a BIG one’, answers Soledad. He is surprised someone as healthy and young as Ana would have a heart attack. But he is hurrying over there.
At Isa’s, Dorofeo arrives in a hurry, demanding she pay him what they had agreed.
Fanny tries to explain to Nando, but he is miffed. He is very disappointed with Fanny. Fanny claims Ana was trying to tell Fernando the truth but never found the right moment and she was trying to get out of that contract (Fernando has heard this from the landing upstairs but does nothing to stop Fanny and Nando from arguing about this). Nando asks her if she has thought how much their siblings will suffer for this. Fernando looks sad and lost in thought.
Angel caring for Ana. She sees a bit blurry. He says she does not need to give him details of her emotional hard moment. Angel and Magda think they know what happened to Ana. She had an anxiety/anguish attack.
Fernando sitting in kitchen remembers moments at beach and at house around xmas, in kitchen, kisses, dancing… Bruno comes in, he can’t sleep either. Offers tea. Fernando asks Bruno if he really didn’t know about Ana as dancer. ‘But Fanny did. Who else knew?’ Bruno asks him not to think about it. ‘No wonder Ana and Jennifer were so close. Everyone took me for a fool!’
At Isa’s, Dorofeo is helping Isa clean up what Ana did to her, he says they will probably close the Chicago on Ana’s accusations. They will try to arrest him so he needs cash to hide!! Isa asks him if he takes daily showers. He pulls out a gun and points at her ‘I am not playing!!’ Isa claims she does not have much money. He pulls on her ears and keeps asking for the cash. He asks one of his thugs to look for Isa’s last bank statement. Isa worries. Dorofeo says they will stay here until the banks open and she gets the money for them.
At Ana’s, Johnny arrives with the meds Angel asked for to give Ana.
Fernando talks to Fanny’s portrait ‘didn’t you tell me not to let her go??’ then walks away.
Magda argues with Angel about the value of his staying with Ana. She can’t convince him to leave so she leaves angry.
Johnny offers to Ana that she and Soledad stay in the bedroom.
At the mansion, Luz is going in Ana’s room calling for her.
Ximena tells Fanny about Nando catching up with her at the airport. She was ready to throw in the towel to save her mental health. Fanny is sad about Leon and Ana. Ximena feels sad for being happy while she is going through so much. Fanny tells Ximena about Enrique stabbing Leon. Fanny is worried about her siblings. Ximena offers her support since Fanny was there for her in her worst moments. Ximena offers to help care for her siblings.
Luz looks for Ana down in library, Fernando tells her Ana went to her house because she feels ill. Yes, the magician doctor. Luz asks if she can go see Ana. Promises she will behave. We will see. But for now it’s time for bed. Luz sends Ana a message with him that she loves her very much.
Next morning… Angel asks Ana why she is there. (Ana is sleeping) Angel wishes he could support her, … love her.
The younger 5 are having breakfast with Fernando. Fanny comes in and is a bit sad, as is Fernando. Fanny needs to talk to Fernando about Freeky. Ximena stays with the young ones.
Fanny brings Fernando up to speed on Freeky stabbing Leon and warning that Fanny would be next. Fernando is alarmed. Gotta hike up security. She says Isa was right, that Freeky wants to take revenge on all the people who harmed him. Fanny reminds him he fired Freeky. She loves him too much, and wishes Fernando and Ana would be happy together. Fernando does not want to talk about it and walks away. Fanny whispers that she did not mean to lie to him.
At Isa’s Dorofeo says time to go to bank. Isa compares this to an armed assault.
Fanny goes to hospital to see Leon. Tells him her dad got her some bodyguards. Leon says she still has to be careful. Doc says he is ok, have to rest since he got stitches inside and out. But happy she is there. She does not want to talk about that. He reaches his hand and she grabs it. But they are both sad. He still values that she is there with him. Fanny says would not leave him alone at this moment. He calls her ‘mi amor’ and she claims she is not that anymore. He notices she is very sad for something. But she won’t tell him other than ‘I have many issues’.. He gets upset, asks her why she came. She says regardless of anything else, she cares about him. He says ‘love you. When I was bleeding out all I could think about was Mau and you. And that I wanted to tell you again I love you Bonita.’ She feels uncomfortable and leaves. He stays there crying.
Freeky grabs Isa’s OBGYN doctor with the knife. You will tell me all I want to know. You gave Isa a DNA test to find out who the father of her baby was. Doctor can only tell him that Fernando is NOT the daddy. Freeky smiles. Freeky tells the doc that ‘I AM THE DADDY!!!’ (so… one more person who knows!)
At office, Isa is mad she had to give the stinky pig half of her money.
She goes into Fernando’s office, realizes he is a bit miffed. She puts excuse that she wanted to go over the numbers for the meeting with him, but maybe he had a problem at home. She claims she is not to blame for what he is going through. He remembers Fanny telling him she knew from the beginning. ‘you too, Fanny… (he changes expression in his face from sadness to determination) I won’t let anyone harm you’
Nando now is arguing with Ximena about how unforgiveable is a big lie. ‘how could she not figure out that the longer she took to tell the truth, the more she would hurt all of us??’ (he got a point there) ‘my siblings will suffer so much that it might have been better if he never met Ana… if she would lie about those things, what kind of a person is she?’ Ximena tries to vow for Ana’s positive qualities, and the Chicago thing is a job like any other … and Nando repeats the word Fernando used ‘the ocultamiento’ (the hiding of the truth) as being the part that hurts/means the most. He claims he is realistic and says Ana is not the person he thought she was. And contrary to his siblings, he is on his dad’s side. He walks away.
Nando goes to see Fernando at the office… wants Fernando to be honest about how he is doing. Fernando had spoken to the kids, told them that Ana is sick. Nando worries about that not stopping the kids from wanting to see Ana. Nando reminds him about the kids running out when Fanny had moved out with Leon. Nando understands that Fernando is having a hard time with all the spinning plates around him. Fernando feels wounded, as if someone had stabbed him… it hurts too much and he does not know what to do. Isa has been eavesdropping from the office door and asks Fernando what is it that is hurting him so… (Fernando looks at her as if saying ‘and you would be the last person in the world I would tell about it’)
Previews: Isa keeps digging to get Fernando to tell her what is hurting him. But!!! Freeky calls Isa and gives her something for HER to worry about… he knows from the doctor that the baby is HIS.
After her convo with Fernando, Fanny heads over to Ana’s. Bruno gives good advice, give Ana AND your dad support.
Leon talks to Margarita and then remembers Enrique’s warning. Leon calls Fanny to alert her about Enrique.
Nando and Ximena at her place. And some smooching. A devastated Fernando asks Nando to come home to talk.
Fanny arrives at Ana’s and gives her a hug.
Lo Nuevo:
Nando arrives home with Ximena, asks her for a moment to talk to his dad. Goes in library.
Edith tells Lenin that Nando chose Ximena and she has cried enough for a Guinness record, leaking on downstairs neighbors. Later Lenin tells Edith he is hanging on with Fanny. He thinks Fanny is trying to tell herself she is over Leon.
Nando asks Dad the questions he is not in mood to answer, ‘why did she lie? She danced at an antro?’ Fernando needs a hug and Nando gives it. Nando is surprised that Fanny knew from the beginning.
Ana explains that she does know she betrayed Fernando. And that Fernando said she does not deserve the kids or his love. Not going to get married. She can’t even take the ring off her finger. Soledad finally gives some good advice, have to wait until Don Fernando gets over the initial anger/rage. Fanny gets the phone call from Leon warning about Enrique. So Ana finds out Enrique is on the attack. Bruno urges Fanny to come back home. She says Dad says she betrayed him. Bruno says don’t force the issue, esp with Enrique on the loose. He says Ana will understand.
At the mansion Manuela offers to care for DN and Fernando or Nando will move the baby crib to her room. Nando wonders what will happen with his siblings. They will die without Ana. Fernando is not prepared to deal with that. For now Nando suggests to tell them Ana is sick. Fernando not quite comfortable with that (lying to them).
At Ana’s place, she gets sick. Seems she is out of breath… She feels pain on her left shoulder and chest area.. (yikes!)
At Angel’s, Magda rings the bell at 4am. He is in disbelief. She is wasted from wine. And gets right to the kissing. He does not seem to be indifferent to it.
Fernando goes into the girls room. Leans on Luz, whispers ‘I am so sorry, my dear’. Luz awakes, he only came to kiss her goodnite. Alicia awakes, he repeats he only came to kiss them. Alicia notes he looks very sad. He claims only tired.
Nando gets back to Ximena, she notices he is sad/upset. He is not in liberty to talk about Ana. Fanny arrives at that moment and Nando walks to her nagging at her for betraying his dad.
Back at Ana’s, they are ready to take her to hospital. Soledad gets on phone, interrupts his Magda moment, Soledad tells him Ana seems to be having a heart attack. Angel is startled. He suggests they lay her down. Magda is a bit miffed of the timing of this emergency. Magda offers to drive him over there. He asks about Ana’s symptoms, pain and cold feeling… heart a bit accelerated (taquicardia). He says give her some aspirin. Did she have an emotional shock? ‘Yes, she did, a BIG one’, answers Soledad. He is surprised someone as healthy and young as Ana would have a heart attack. But he is hurrying over there.
At Isa’s, Dorofeo arrives in a hurry, demanding she pay him what they had agreed.
Fanny tries to explain to Nando, but he is miffed. He is very disappointed with Fanny. Fanny claims Ana was trying to tell Fernando the truth but never found the right moment and she was trying to get out of that contract (Fernando has heard this from the landing upstairs but does nothing to stop Fanny and Nando from arguing about this). Nando asks her if she has thought how much their siblings will suffer for this. Fernando looks sad and lost in thought.
Angel caring for Ana. She sees a bit blurry. He says she does not need to give him details of her emotional hard moment. Angel and Magda think they know what happened to Ana. She had an anxiety/anguish attack.
Fernando sitting in kitchen remembers moments at beach and at house around xmas, in kitchen, kisses, dancing… Bruno comes in, he can’t sleep either. Offers tea. Fernando asks Bruno if he really didn’t know about Ana as dancer. ‘But Fanny did. Who else knew?’ Bruno asks him not to think about it. ‘No wonder Ana and Jennifer were so close. Everyone took me for a fool!’
At Isa’s, Dorofeo is helping Isa clean up what Ana did to her, he says they will probably close the Chicago on Ana’s accusations. They will try to arrest him so he needs cash to hide!! Isa asks him if he takes daily showers. He pulls out a gun and points at her ‘I am not playing!!’ Isa claims she does not have much money. He pulls on her ears and keeps asking for the cash. He asks one of his thugs to look for Isa’s last bank statement. Isa worries. Dorofeo says they will stay here until the banks open and she gets the money for them.
At Ana’s, Johnny arrives with the meds Angel asked for to give Ana.
Fernando talks to Fanny’s portrait ‘didn’t you tell me not to let her go??’ then walks away.
Magda argues with Angel about the value of his staying with Ana. She can’t convince him to leave so she leaves angry.
Johnny offers to Ana that she and Soledad stay in the bedroom.
At the mansion, Luz is going in Ana’s room calling for her.
Ximena tells Fanny about Nando catching up with her at the airport. She was ready to throw in the towel to save her mental health. Fanny is sad about Leon and Ana. Ximena feels sad for being happy while she is going through so much. Fanny tells Ximena about Enrique stabbing Leon. Fanny is worried about her siblings. Ximena offers her support since Fanny was there for her in her worst moments. Ximena offers to help care for her siblings.
Luz looks for Ana down in library, Fernando tells her Ana went to her house because she feels ill. Yes, the magician doctor. Luz asks if she can go see Ana. Promises she will behave. We will see. But for now it’s time for bed. Luz sends Ana a message with him that she loves her very much.
Next morning… Angel asks Ana why she is there. (Ana is sleeping) Angel wishes he could support her, … love her.
The younger 5 are having breakfast with Fernando. Fanny comes in and is a bit sad, as is Fernando. Fanny needs to talk to Fernando about Freeky. Ximena stays with the young ones.
Fanny brings Fernando up to speed on Freeky stabbing Leon and warning that Fanny would be next. Fernando is alarmed. Gotta hike up security. She says Isa was right, that Freeky wants to take revenge on all the people who harmed him. Fanny reminds him he fired Freeky. She loves him too much, and wishes Fernando and Ana would be happy together. Fernando does not want to talk about it and walks away. Fanny whispers that she did not mean to lie to him.
At Isa’s Dorofeo says time to go to bank. Isa compares this to an armed assault.
Fanny goes to hospital to see Leon. Tells him her dad got her some bodyguards. Leon says she still has to be careful. Doc says he is ok, have to rest since he got stitches inside and out. But happy she is there. She does not want to talk about that. He reaches his hand and she grabs it. But they are both sad. He still values that she is there with him. Fanny says would not leave him alone at this moment. He calls her ‘mi amor’ and she claims she is not that anymore. He notices she is very sad for something. But she won’t tell him other than ‘I have many issues’.. He gets upset, asks her why she came. She says regardless of anything else, she cares about him. He says ‘love you. When I was bleeding out all I could think about was Mau and you. And that I wanted to tell you again I love you Bonita.’ She feels uncomfortable and leaves. He stays there crying.
Freeky grabs Isa’s OBGYN doctor with the knife. You will tell me all I want to know. You gave Isa a DNA test to find out who the father of her baby was. Doctor can only tell him that Fernando is NOT the daddy. Freeky smiles. Freeky tells the doc that ‘I AM THE DADDY!!!’ (so… one more person who knows!)
At office, Isa is mad she had to give the stinky pig half of her money.
She goes into Fernando’s office, realizes he is a bit miffed. She puts excuse that she wanted to go over the numbers for the meeting with him, but maybe he had a problem at home. She claims she is not to blame for what he is going through. He remembers Fanny telling him she knew from the beginning. ‘you too, Fanny… (he changes expression in his face from sadness to determination) I won’t let anyone harm you’
Nando now is arguing with Ximena about how unforgiveable is a big lie. ‘how could she not figure out that the longer she took to tell the truth, the more she would hurt all of us??’ (he got a point there) ‘my siblings will suffer so much that it might have been better if he never met Ana… if she would lie about those things, what kind of a person is she?’ Ximena tries to vow for Ana’s positive qualities, and the Chicago thing is a job like any other … and Nando repeats the word Fernando used ‘the ocultamiento’ (the hiding of the truth) as being the part that hurts/means the most. He claims he is realistic and says Ana is not the person he thought she was. And contrary to his siblings, he is on his dad’s side. He walks away.
Nando goes to see Fernando at the office… wants Fernando to be honest about how he is doing. Fernando had spoken to the kids, told them that Ana is sick. Nando worries about that not stopping the kids from wanting to see Ana. Nando reminds him about the kids running out when Fanny had moved out with Leon. Nando understands that Fernando is having a hard time with all the spinning plates around him. Fernando feels wounded, as if someone had stabbed him… it hurts too much and he does not know what to do. Isa has been eavesdropping from the office door and asks Fernando what is it that is hurting him so… (Fernando looks at her as if saying ‘and you would be the last person in the world I would tell about it’)
Previews: Isa keeps digging to get Fernando to tell her what is hurting him. But!!! Freeky calls Isa and gives her something for HER to worry about… he knows from the doctor that the baby is HIS.
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Gracias, Marta. Especially for the definition of "ocultamiento," which sounded like something else to me!
Nando is so rigid about this I'm starting to wonder if he's going to reverse his makeover.
As far as Enfrique's paternity is concerned, I don't think the gynecologist knew he was the father of Isabimbo's baby, only that Fernando wasn't. So Enfrique let slip information that he didn't know. This probably means another murder to add to his rap sheet.
I also don't recall Isabruja agreeing to pay Gordofeo anything. And was the video Johnny made actually sent to the police, is Gordofeo merely paranoid, or is he just using that as an excuse to extort money from Isabruja?
Fernando might just be at the beginning of learning his own lesson by lying to his children to spare their feelings. And Nando would be learning that it is completely impossible to never tell a lie in one's entire life.
Nando is so rigid about this I'm starting to wonder if he's going to reverse his makeover.
As far as Enfrique's paternity is concerned, I don't think the gynecologist knew he was the father of Isabimbo's baby, only that Fernando wasn't. So Enfrique let slip information that he didn't know. This probably means another murder to add to his rap sheet.
I also don't recall Isabruja agreeing to pay Gordofeo anything. And was the video Johnny made actually sent to the police, is Gordofeo merely paranoid, or is he just using that as an excuse to extort money from Isabruja?
Fernando might just be at the beginning of learning his own lesson by lying to his children to spare their feelings. And Nando would be learning that it is completely impossible to never tell a lie in one's entire life.
UA, ITA about Fernando catching himself in lying to the kids about Ana's whereabouts and that she is 'sick'. Thus his reluctance at following Nando's idea at first. but he just could not come up with any other solution.
About the 'ocultamiento' i just thought it was funny that both Fernando and Nando used exactly the same word, which i had not heard before, had to look it up.
Isa did not agree to give Dorofeo any money. But when he told his thugs to look for her bank statement, we all know he wanted to force her to give him plenty of moolah.
I don't think anyone has given the video to the police. It is Dorofeo's paranoia talking. That is what he is afraid of will happen next.
And yes, now that the Doctor knows from Freeky that he is the daddy, Freeky has a motive to get rid of him... but it also leaves another character knowing the goods and able to deliver them, unless he ends up dead first.
About the 'ocultamiento' i just thought it was funny that both Fernando and Nando used exactly the same word, which i had not heard before, had to look it up.
Isa did not agree to give Dorofeo any money. But when he told his thugs to look for her bank statement, we all know he wanted to force her to give him plenty of moolah.
I don't think anyone has given the video to the police. It is Dorofeo's paranoia talking. That is what he is afraid of will happen next.
And yes, now that the Doctor knows from Freeky that he is the daddy, Freeky has a motive to get rid of him... but it also leaves another character knowing the goods and able to deliver them, unless he ends up dead first.
Oh it's one big, bad, unacceptable, unforgiving thing for Ana to lie, but it's okay for Fernando to lie??
Whether right or wrong, justified or not, Ana didn't tell Fernando about Chicago for a number of reasons. Fernando lies to the kids about Ana for a number of reasons.
Is Fernando upset because his ego got crushed ('you made me look like a fool') or is he upset because of his righteous, strict, fundamental belief that lying is not permissible or forgivable?
Whether right or wrong, justified or not, Ana didn't tell Fernando about Chicago for a number of reasons. Fernando lies to the kids about Ana for a number of reasons.
Is Fernando upset because his ego got crushed ('you made me look like a fool') or is he upset because of his righteous, strict, fundamental belief that lying is not permissible or forgivable?
Forgive me just jumping in, but I saw from ads that the big secret is finally out, and so I read the last two great recaps from Urban and Marta. I keep reading that Fernando felt Ana and everyone made a fool of him (I'm assuming in Spanish he's using the verb burlar). But doesn't making a fool of someone imply intent to play someone for a fool- laughing and mocking about it behind their back and trying to gain some advantage over them? Like how Isabela was mocking and laughing behind his back with all her lies and the big one about the baby's paternity, all to get access to his money. Does Fernando really think that Ana and everyone was snickering behind his back? I just don't see who he thinks he looked foolish in front of. Disappointed. Deceived. Yes. But made a fool of? No. In any case, I'm glad to see the truth is finally out about Ana's night job, so that the two of them can finally move past it. But Fer is just being silly if he's acting like he knows nothing about Ana now. She's shared everything about herself except her night job. She's been more open and transparent about her feelings for him and his kids from day one, than he has.
That's why I've been wondering who has lied to Fernando in the past and what it was about (that is, before Isabruja).
I think Fernando is confusing feeling like a fool with someone deliberately making a fool of him. When he has had enough time to think about it he will realize that Ana did no such thing. Every time he spent money on her she wasn't comfortable with it. She didn't want him to pay the entire cost of the beach trip or buy her clothes. She tried to take off the engagement ring.
When he finds out that DN isn't actually his biological child he will know who really made a fool of him and he will feel even worse than he does now.
I think Fernando is confusing feeling like a fool with someone deliberately making a fool of him. When he has had enough time to think about it he will realize that Ana did no such thing. Every time he spent money on her she wasn't comfortable with it. She didn't want him to pay the entire cost of the beach trip or buy her clothes. She tried to take off the engagement ring.
When he finds out that DN isn't actually his biological child he will know who really made a fool of him and he will feel even worse than he does now.
Want to take bets on who tells Fernando the truth about DN ?
1) Isabruja (IMO, it would be in a fit of rage)
2) IkkyLizard (IMO, 95% probability)
3) Ana figures it out and tells Fer (would she dare if she did find out ?)
4) Isa's doctor (IMO, I don't see this happening)
5) Yoyomana (this one would allow the redemption of Carmen Salinas who, I think, has never played the role of someone who isn't goody two shoes)
6) Who else could it possibly be?
I'll gladly take count of the votes /guesses/probabilities)
1) Isabruja (IMO, it would be in a fit of rage)
2) IkkyLizard (IMO, 95% probability)
3) Ana figures it out and tells Fer (would she dare if she did find out ?)
4) Isa's doctor (IMO, I don't see this happening)
5) Yoyomana (this one would allow the redemption of Carmen Salinas who, I think, has never played the role of someone who isn't goody two shoes)
6) Who else could it possibly be?
I'll gladly take count of the votes /guesses/probabilities)
Marta, thanks, the recap was great.
Best Part: Doroteo menacing and claiming his money loss from Isabella. Finally someone putting her in her place. Finally Doroteo is good for something.
Magda has Angel's number with him staying with Ana after she had her anxiety attack.
We need to see Yolanda soon; she has been mia too long.
Victoria, I vote for Yolanda to drop the DN bomb.
Jarifa
Best Part: Doroteo menacing and claiming his money loss from Isabella. Finally someone putting her in her place. Finally Doroteo is good for something.
Magda has Angel's number with him staying with Ana after she had her anxiety attack.
We need to see Yolanda soon; she has been mia too long.
Victoria, I vote for Yolanda to drop the DN bomb.
Jarifa
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: Wednesday, February 25, 2015 at 12:00:00 AM EST
: Wednesday, February 25, 2015 at 12:00:00 AM EST
Victoria, I say most definitely it's going to be Yomama. I usually really suck at predicting the whacky events of telenovela land, so we'll see if I can make it 2 for 2. :)
I thought Gordotheo had tried to extort money from Isa for info on Ana's dancing at the club. She refused, and figured it out on her own. But in his mind, she owes him no matter. Also, I think he figured Ana would send the video to the cops because someone told Fer about her dancing, and she'll think it was him. Since he'll get the blame, and need to flee (which isn't cheap, you know), he is going to go ahead and extort money from Isa. Plus, she's rich and so why not. Or something like that. Hard to say what goes on in that reptilian brain.
I thought Gordotheo had tried to extort money from Isa for info on Ana's dancing at the club. She refused, and figured it out on her own. But in his mind, she owes him no matter. Also, I think he figured Ana would send the video to the cops because someone told Fer about her dancing, and she'll think it was him. Since he'll get the blame, and need to flee (which isn't cheap, you know), he is going to go ahead and extort money from Isa. Plus, she's rich and so why not. Or something like that. Hard to say what goes on in that reptilian brain.
That's right, Fernando. You NEVER lie to those you love. So I guess you don't love your younger children, right? Especially little Luz.
Permalink posted by : Wednesday, February 25, 2015 at 4:33:00 AM EST
: Wednesday, February 25, 2015 at 4:33:00 AM EST
Thank you, Marta
I'm with Fernando on this one. The little lie he told his kids for now was just so he could win some time to explain what really happened. He still needs a while to process everything.
Ana lied for a year (going by Isabella's pregnancy and what happened in between), even after accepting to be his novia and to marry him. Being afraid of the repercussions is one thing, but she absolutely didn't have enough trust that Fernando would listen to her and understand. Yes, he is angry, who wouldn't be? He has this very rigid moral compass (it's not like he told his lie to the kids without even flinching) and he thought Ana was better than everyone else.
It's his right to feel like a fool, who wouldn't after being lied to his face for so much time?
But this is just the early reveal, he will take some time to think things through and my guess is that Ana will be back in a few episodes, at least as a nanny. The kids really can't lose another mother and Fernando is painfully aware of it. His hurt goes beyond Ana having lied to him, she also lied to his children and convinced Fanny to lie for her. Not easy to forgive, if you ask me.
He will come around once the dust settles, for now it's his right to kick and scream. IMO
I'm with Fernando on this one. The little lie he told his kids for now was just so he could win some time to explain what really happened. He still needs a while to process everything.
Ana lied for a year (going by Isabella's pregnancy and what happened in between), even after accepting to be his novia and to marry him. Being afraid of the repercussions is one thing, but she absolutely didn't have enough trust that Fernando would listen to her and understand. Yes, he is angry, who wouldn't be? He has this very rigid moral compass (it's not like he told his lie to the kids without even flinching) and he thought Ana was better than everyone else.
It's his right to feel like a fool, who wouldn't after being lied to his face for so much time?
But this is just the early reveal, he will take some time to think things through and my guess is that Ana will be back in a few episodes, at least as a nanny. The kids really can't lose another mother and Fernando is painfully aware of it. His hurt goes beyond Ana having lied to him, she also lied to his children and convinced Fanny to lie for her. Not easy to forgive, if you ask me.
He will come around once the dust settles, for now it's his right to kick and scream. IMO
Thank you so much Marta.
I vote Yomama tells Fernando.
I see no equivalence in Fernando buying a day with a white lie to the younger kids and Ana lying for a year and sneaking out of the house. This is the day after he both asked Ana to marry him and found out she & Fanny lied. In this situation Fernando is not the bad guy and has yet to prove he is totally inflexible. How could anyone have that bomb dropped on them and not instinctively react with emotion and not cool rationale. The guy didn't sleep all night and no hot doc to comfort him.
I didn't appreciate Nando's rant though.
Angel is creepy to me.
I vote Yomama tells Fernando.
I see no equivalence in Fernando buying a day with a white lie to the younger kids and Ana lying for a year and sneaking out of the house. This is the day after he both asked Ana to marry him and found out she & Fanny lied. In this situation Fernando is not the bad guy and has yet to prove he is totally inflexible. How could anyone have that bomb dropped on them and not instinctively react with emotion and not cool rationale. The guy didn't sleep all night and no hot doc to comfort him.
I didn't appreciate Nando's rant though.
Angel is creepy to me.
Thanks Marta. Great detail as always.
I side somewhat on not comparing the "lie" Fer told the kids and Ana's hiding of her night job. Who hasn't told their kids a white lie, or a stretching of the truth, to ease their fears or calm them? It was Luz that prompts him to give into Nando's idea of Ana being sick, which frankly, she is if only emotionally just like Fer.
But this also leads me to think this is still going to be the way for Ana and Fer to make their way back to each other. It's honestly always started and will end with the kids, and to spare them pain, he'll let Ana back in their lives I'm betting. Not sure if it's as the Nanny, but somehow.
And we are supposed to think Magda should pair back up with Angel why? Gees, make this woman go away.
I say we had two good episodes with wonderful acting showing everyone's anguish, now cue the crazy and let's get to the heart of cleaning up the villians in this piece. Who will Eeky go after next?
Daisynjay
I side somewhat on not comparing the "lie" Fer told the kids and Ana's hiding of her night job. Who hasn't told their kids a white lie, or a stretching of the truth, to ease their fears or calm them? It was Luz that prompts him to give into Nando's idea of Ana being sick, which frankly, she is if only emotionally just like Fer.
But this also leads me to think this is still going to be the way for Ana and Fer to make their way back to each other. It's honestly always started and will end with the kids, and to spare them pain, he'll let Ana back in their lives I'm betting. Not sure if it's as the Nanny, but somehow.
And we are supposed to think Magda should pair back up with Angel why? Gees, make this woman go away.
I say we had two good episodes with wonderful acting showing everyone's anguish, now cue the crazy and let's get to the heart of cleaning up the villians in this piece. Who will Eeky go after next?
Daisynjay
Permalink posted by : Wednesday, February 25, 2015 at 6:57:00 AM EST
: Wednesday, February 25, 2015 at 6:57:00 AM EST
Tofie, I also did not appreciate Nando's rant and will take it one step farther: Fernando made a mistake remaining mute and not reining him in. Fernando also made a mistake not accepting Fanny's apology when she apologized again. She shouldn't have to grovel.
Jarifa
Jarifa
Permalink posted by : Wednesday, February 25, 2015 at 7:05:00 AM EST
: Wednesday, February 25, 2015 at 7:05:00 AM EST
I'm splitting my vote between Yomama and Enfrique.
Yomama is out of Bruja Central, as is Ramona. She never has to see Jezebela again if she chooses not to. She knows better than anyone that Fernando is a far better father than her daughter will ever be a mother. This will be entirely for the baby's benefit. The one thing that stands in the way of this is her determination to redeem herself, which may outweigh any residual greed on her part. Her conscience has been winning so far and if she loses her fear of Jezebela she might take the risk.
Enfrique had a bigger and more immediate motive: He wants revenge. He will therefore use an imaginary seduction advantage to avenge an imaginary wrong. Hurting Fernando by hurting his actual children and his ego at the same time is what he's trying to do.
If Fernando has any relatives in the US he should send his children to them until Enfrique is caught. They would be safe there. What I am envisioning is them going to Nick's beach house and there being some kind of danger involving a boat and the sea/ocean.
Yomama is out of Bruja Central, as is Ramona. She never has to see Jezebela again if she chooses not to. She knows better than anyone that Fernando is a far better father than her daughter will ever be a mother. This will be entirely for the baby's benefit. The one thing that stands in the way of this is her determination to redeem herself, which may outweigh any residual greed on her part. Her conscience has been winning so far and if she loses her fear of Jezebela she might take the risk.
Enfrique had a bigger and more immediate motive: He wants revenge. He will therefore use an imaginary seduction advantage to avenge an imaginary wrong. Hurting Fernando by hurting his actual children and his ego at the same time is what he's trying to do.
If Fernando has any relatives in the US he should send his children to them until Enfrique is caught. They would be safe there. What I am envisioning is them going to Nick's beach house and there being some kind of danger involving a boat and the sea/ocean.
Jarifa, I too thought Fernando should have stopped Nando and was thinking the same thing. I do know brother and sister quarrel, got an older brother and we went at it frequently, but Nando was punishing Fanny.
I also realize Nando's rant was a way to lay all viewpoints out there but we at Caray had already covered them. Hee Hee
I don't have a problem with Magda, realizing an error, and wanting a reconciliation, but her methods silly and desperate.
I don't like Angel, acting like a wounded puppy, letting her pet him and first chance he gets run for a biscuit at the neighbors house. If I woke up to a man (especially a doctor) at my bedside, in the thrones of a love chant, it would freak me out.
I also realize Nando's rant was a way to lay all viewpoints out there but we at Caray had already covered them. Hee Hee
I don't have a problem with Magda, realizing an error, and wanting a reconciliation, but her methods silly and desperate.
I don't like Angel, acting like a wounded puppy, letting her pet him and first chance he gets run for a biscuit at the neighbors house. If I woke up to a man (especially a doctor) at my bedside, in the thrones of a love chant, it would freak me out.
Victoria, there is one other possibility, based on Novela Cliche #36: Accidental eavesdropping leads to discovery of an important truth.
In this example, if Yomama is visiting the baby and Jezebela shows up, someone could overhear an argument in which Yomama tells her she will rat this out to Fernando. The person overhearing this could be Fernando himself or anyone in the household. If it were the twins they could record the conversation on one of their handy devices and run to their oldest sibs with it; makes no difference if it were Fanny or Nando. Fanny would want to confront Jezebela, but Nando would just go straight to his dad with this.
In this example, if Yomama is visiting the baby and Jezebela shows up, someone could overhear an argument in which Yomama tells her she will rat this out to Fernando. The person overhearing this could be Fernando himself or anyone in the household. If it were the twins they could record the conversation on one of their handy devices and run to their oldest sibs with it; makes no difference if it were Fanny or Nando. Fanny would want to confront Jezebela, but Nando would just go straight to his dad with this.
Urban
I love the idea of the twins being the ones to discover the '2nd Big Reveal' and taping it with their remote controlled car!
I'm adding that to the options, and just might vote for it because it is so ingenious. It's too bad that Osorio isn't imaginative enough to write it into the story.
I'm still waiting to learn the reason for Fanny Sr.'s death and whether IkkyLizard was behind it!
I love the idea of the twins being the ones to discover the '2nd Big Reveal' and taping it with their remote controlled car!
I'm adding that to the options, and just might vote for it because it is so ingenious. It's too bad that Osorio isn't imaginative enough to write it into the story.
I'm still waiting to learn the reason for Fanny Sr.'s death and whether IkkyLizard was behind it!
Thanks for the recap Marta!
I have to agree with Adriana. I understand this opinion is in the minority but I don't compare what he told his children to what Ana was did. I also think he is biding his time because all this is so fresh and he's still trying to deal with everything that has been thrown on his lap.
As far as allowing Nando and Fanny to argue, I agree he should've stopped it. The last thing he should want is for his family to fall apart at this moment. I do give him a pass because I don't think he is thinking straight right now and to be honest what he found out and how he found out was huge. I was a little surprised at how vicious Nando is acting towards Ana considering all she's done for him. However, I don't fault him for having his fathers' back especially at a time like this. I like seeing Nando acting with a little backbone and not being so wishy-washy. It will be interesting to see what happens if he and Ana meet soon.
I said this before, and I'll say it again. I think Fernando is a man of great pride and always wants to be on top of things. I do believe he more upset with himself than Ana. He saw all the signs and for one reason or another he didn't put it together. I think that any person who feels like they were decieved would feel like a fool. Not so much because of the people around them, but because you will always ask yourself, "Why didn't I see it?"
I didn't like Isabella walking in on Fer and Nando when they were talking. What is she doing??? Fer is not in the mood for no nonsense, you got your revenge just sit back and enjoy the fallout. I'm not sure also if he knows that it was Isabella who wrote the note. I know Ana tried to say something about Isa but he cut her off.
I have to agree with Adriana. I understand this opinion is in the minority but I don't compare what he told his children to what Ana was did. I also think he is biding his time because all this is so fresh and he's still trying to deal with everything that has been thrown on his lap.
As far as allowing Nando and Fanny to argue, I agree he should've stopped it. The last thing he should want is for his family to fall apart at this moment. I do give him a pass because I don't think he is thinking straight right now and to be honest what he found out and how he found out was huge. I was a little surprised at how vicious Nando is acting towards Ana considering all she's done for him. However, I don't fault him for having his fathers' back especially at a time like this. I like seeing Nando acting with a little backbone and not being so wishy-washy. It will be interesting to see what happens if he and Ana meet soon.
I said this before, and I'll say it again. I think Fernando is a man of great pride and always wants to be on top of things. I do believe he more upset with himself than Ana. He saw all the signs and for one reason or another he didn't put it together. I think that any person who feels like they were decieved would feel like a fool. Not so much because of the people around them, but because you will always ask yourself, "Why didn't I see it?"
I didn't like Isabella walking in on Fer and Nando when they were talking. What is she doing??? Fer is not in the mood for no nonsense, you got your revenge just sit back and enjoy the fallout. I'm not sure also if he knows that it was Isabella who wrote the note. I know Ana tried to say something about Isa but he cut her off.
Permalink posted by : Wednesday, February 25, 2015 at 8:47:00 AM EST
: Wednesday, February 25, 2015 at 8:47:00 AM EST
Fernando didn't give Ana the chance to tell him that Isabully set this up. He will figure it out soon enough. Didn't Ana tell him about what Yomama told her on the phone in that kitchen scene?
I agree that he should have stopped the fight between Fanny and Nando and he is whipping himself emotionally for missing the clues that he didn't add up. Math majors and business pros hate when that happens.
As for Zerobela walking in on the conversation in the office, we should expect that from her. There are no limits on the pain she wants to inflict. I also think that after Gordofeo fleeced her of half her money she might escalate this.
I agree that he should have stopped the fight between Fanny and Nando and he is whipping himself emotionally for missing the clues that he didn't add up. Math majors and business pros hate when that happens.
As for Zerobela walking in on the conversation in the office, we should expect that from her. There are no limits on the pain she wants to inflict. I also think that after Gordofeo fleeced her of half her money she might escalate this.
UA, although you are right on When he finds out that DN isn't actually his biological child he will know who really made a fool of him and he will feel even worse than he does now.
somehow i don't want one big reveal to be the reason the other one gets bumped off... Fernando's lie is not comparable to Ana's. First because her lie had phases and Ana kept on escalating the gravity of the lie...
it began when she came back when Luz talked. At that point Fanny decided to keep quiet but Ana chose to continue to lie about the reasons she was sneaking out at night and then
Escalation no. 2: The Lola night. Ana intentionally had to disguise herself BECAUSE she did not want for him to know the truth... (she had grown fond of the kids already and she had already fallen in love with him so she did not want to lose them... granted... but she escalated her lie intentionally this time.
Escalation no. 3:
She kept quiet at the jail cell where he spilled his heart and soul to her... why didn't she do the same? if anything it would have put distance between him and her, and didn't she want to do that if she wanted to keep going with Diego??
Escalation no. 4:
she kissed him again and that implied she and him were 'together' again... still she did not come clean to him...
keeping quiet every time Fernando mentioned to her that he expected total transparency between them.
Escalation no. 5:
She accepted being his 'novia' and took the rings he offered ... still she did not come clean with him...
Escalation no. 6 (and the most important): she slept with him at the beach and agreed to marry him... (although she had planned to tell him the next morning, she did not...)
To her credit, I do believe she planned to tell him all about it that night at the kitchen meeting after her last presentation... but was that too little too late?
During their argument he made it a big deal that she slept with him and agreed to marry him. (I have to agree with him, that one escalation step was HUGE at least in his eyes and she knew it.
So although I still think this is something for Fernando to digest and re-evaluate on his own, i don't want the 'BIG REVEAL 2' to be part of that re-evaluation. I don't want him to get back with her because of Isa having put an even bigger 'FOOL' label on his forehead, but because he has come to terms with the fact that Ana is human and he understands her reasons for her reluctance to tell him (he knows who he was before Ana and that is what she had to go on to predict his reaction... besides her low self-esteem due to her background and the social 'definition' of a 'pole dancer at a bar mostly attended by men' like he said during the argument.
We just need to give him time, but we can't undermine what Ana did either... the initial lie was not intentional but the 'ocultacion' at and beyond the jail cell night was intentional, no matter how guilty she felt every time she escalated it.
somehow i don't want one big reveal to be the reason the other one gets bumped off... Fernando's lie is not comparable to Ana's. First because her lie had phases and Ana kept on escalating the gravity of the lie...
it began when she came back when Luz talked. At that point Fanny decided to keep quiet but Ana chose to continue to lie about the reasons she was sneaking out at night and then
Escalation no. 2: The Lola night. Ana intentionally had to disguise herself BECAUSE she did not want for him to know the truth... (she had grown fond of the kids already and she had already fallen in love with him so she did not want to lose them... granted... but she escalated her lie intentionally this time.
Escalation no. 3:
She kept quiet at the jail cell where he spilled his heart and soul to her... why didn't she do the same? if anything it would have put distance between him and her, and didn't she want to do that if she wanted to keep going with Diego??
Escalation no. 4:
she kissed him again and that implied she and him were 'together' again... still she did not come clean to him...
keeping quiet every time Fernando mentioned to her that he expected total transparency between them.
Escalation no. 5:
She accepted being his 'novia' and took the rings he offered ... still she did not come clean with him...
Escalation no. 6 (and the most important): she slept with him at the beach and agreed to marry him... (although she had planned to tell him the next morning, she did not...)
To her credit, I do believe she planned to tell him all about it that night at the kitchen meeting after her last presentation... but was that too little too late?
During their argument he made it a big deal that she slept with him and agreed to marry him. (I have to agree with him, that one escalation step was HUGE at least in his eyes and she knew it.
So although I still think this is something for Fernando to digest and re-evaluate on his own, i don't want the 'BIG REVEAL 2' to be part of that re-evaluation. I don't want him to get back with her because of Isa having put an even bigger 'FOOL' label on his forehead, but because he has come to terms with the fact that Ana is human and he understands her reasons for her reluctance to tell him (he knows who he was before Ana and that is what she had to go on to predict his reaction... besides her low self-esteem due to her background and the social 'definition' of a 'pole dancer at a bar mostly attended by men' like he said during the argument.
We just need to give him time, but we can't undermine what Ana did either... the initial lie was not intentional but the 'ocultacion' at and beyond the jail cell night was intentional, no matter how guilty she felt every time she escalated it.
If I have to hear Ximena call Nando 'Baby' one more time, I'm going to puke. Now she is so giddy and showing her teeth so much, one would think that she's either been doped to kingdom come or just off her rocker.
Again, Johnny proved how utterly stupid, worthless, and clueless he is by standing around Ana acting like a goofball while fanning Ana with metal tray! His level of total incompetence never ceases to amaze me. And where are all these people (Ana, Soledad, Jenifer, and Johnny) going to sleep in Ana's two bedroom apartment?
Not wanting to be sexist but what is it about guys professing their infinite, undying love for one woman but never thinking twice about lip sucking with another? Angel with Magda, she was all but ready to take off her clothes when Soledad called. She shows up at Angel's half bombed out of her mind but still drives Angel to Ana's and Johnny to the pharmacy. Great PSA Osorio!!
It was so wrong of Fernando to stand silently by while Nando was ranting, unjustly, at Fanny. Also, it broke my heart to see his rejection of his daughter. I realize he's hurt and disallusioned, but I wish he could take a step back and reflect on everyone's motives and good intentions for keeping the truth from "Don Hielo". He himself admitted how much he had changed due to Ana's influence. I guess we will see "Don Hielo" for a few episodes or at least until he calms down. But how will he react when he finds our that not just Fanny and Jenifer knew, but also, Nico and Diego, his own
Again, Johnny proved how utterly stupid, worthless, and clueless he is by standing around Ana acting like a goofball while fanning Ana with metal tray! His level of total incompetence never ceases to amaze me. And where are all these people (Ana, Soledad, Jenifer, and Johnny) going to sleep in Ana's two bedroom apartment?
Not wanting to be sexist but what is it about guys professing their infinite, undying love for one woman but never thinking twice about lip sucking with another? Angel with Magda, she was all but ready to take off her clothes when Soledad called. She shows up at Angel's half bombed out of her mind but still drives Angel to Ana's and Johnny to the pharmacy. Great PSA Osorio!!
It was so wrong of Fernando to stand silently by while Nando was ranting, unjustly, at Fanny. Also, it broke my heart to see his rejection of his daughter. I realize he's hurt and disallusioned, but I wish he could take a step back and reflect on everyone's motives and good intentions for keeping the truth from "Don Hielo". He himself admitted how much he had changed due to Ana's influence. I guess we will see "Don Hielo" for a few episodes or at least until he calms down. But how will he react when he finds our that not just Fanny and Jenifer knew, but also, Nico and Diego, his own
Permalink posted by : Wednesday, February 25, 2015 at 9:21:00 AM EST
: Wednesday, February 25, 2015 at 9:21:00 AM EST
Thank you, Marta. Great details and perfect title.
I agree with Jarifa that Fernando should forgive Fanny and discourage any fighting between these older siblings. I fear that Fernando's hurt pride and broken heart will blind him to how much responsibility both of these older kids feel for their siblings.
In typical sexist manner, Fanny has carried the day on helping with the children and putting her family above pretty much everything else -- except the Leon/Lenin choice. Fernando owes Fanny a lot for all childcare she has done and responsibility she has taken. She was wrong not to push harder to get Ana to tell Fernando the truth; I think it was Ana's truth to tell but certainly Fanny could have forced her hand. But Fanny also knew better than anyone else what Ana's presence meant to the family and I hope that Fernando will soon seek to reconcile with her. He sure is going to need her help with the family now!
Freeky sure is freaky. Perfect name for him.
I agree with Jarifa that Fernando should forgive Fanny and discourage any fighting between these older siblings. I fear that Fernando's hurt pride and broken heart will blind him to how much responsibility both of these older kids feel for their siblings.
In typical sexist manner, Fanny has carried the day on helping with the children and putting her family above pretty much everything else -- except the Leon/Lenin choice. Fernando owes Fanny a lot for all childcare she has done and responsibility she has taken. She was wrong not to push harder to get Ana to tell Fernando the truth; I think it was Ana's truth to tell but certainly Fanny could have forced her hand. But Fanny also knew better than anyone else what Ana's presence meant to the family and I hope that Fernando will soon seek to reconcile with her. He sure is going to need her help with the family now!
Freeky sure is freaky. Perfect name for him.
Have to do work stuff but i wanted to also say i agree that Yomama might want to tell Fernando the truth because she knows her grandson is better off with Fernando and Ana than with Isa, although it would be much harder for Fernando and Ana to keep DN if it is proven he is not Fernando's bio son.
Also agree that it was bad for Nando to bash off his own sister like that... without listening..
Both Nando are bashing without giving the other side a chance to explain fully why they did it.
Also agree that Ana should not let Angel get too close to her, but Magda is wrong for Angel too.
Still could care less about Nando and his choice between Xime and Edith.
Want Fanny to get with Leon although it would be a bumpier future than if she chose Lenin.
Also I agree that it is natural for Fernando to have reacted the way he did PRECISELY because Ana let it happen that way (instead of having explained it to him with all the background info ahead of the big blow)... he is only acting according to his character... he is completely HONEST AND TRANSPARENT (ok, the little lie to the kids is there because he wanted to spare them the pain and give himself time to come up with a better solution).
and he EXPECTED same from Ana. and the dissappointment delivered in such a sudden way drew the angry reaction. He needs time for the dust to settle.
Also agree that it was bad for Nando to bash off his own sister like that... without listening..
Both Nando are bashing without giving the other side a chance to explain fully why they did it.
Also agree that Ana should not let Angel get too close to her, but Magda is wrong for Angel too.
Still could care less about Nando and his choice between Xime and Edith.
Want Fanny to get with Leon although it would be a bumpier future than if she chose Lenin.
Also I agree that it is natural for Fernando to have reacted the way he did PRECISELY because Ana let it happen that way (instead of having explained it to him with all the background info ahead of the big blow)... he is only acting according to his character... he is completely HONEST AND TRANSPARENT (ok, the little lie to the kids is there because he wanted to spare them the pain and give himself time to come up with a better solution).
and he EXPECTED same from Ana. and the dissappointment delivered in such a sudden way drew the angry reaction. He needs time for the dust to settle.
Victoria, I vote for Freeky Eeky to be the revealer of the truth. It benefits Isa too much to keep up the charade and face it, the confrontation that would result between Fer and Isa would be a writers/directors/actors dream to put out there. Either Eeky will spill directly to Fer or as he is taken down to have the last laugh as they haul him away. Lisardo will most likely be awesome in doing that.
My biggest head scratcher is why we are getting perhaps a teaser that maybe the baby isn't Eeky's or Fer's? But we never saw any other candidate, so I'll go with it's Eeky's....poor little thing.
Now the question then becomes, how does Isa get her comeuppance so that the baby still winds up with Fer and family at the end of this? I know she doesn't really want to be a "mother" day in and day out, but I can't see her just handing the child over to them to adopt. Maybe we should take a poll - how will Isa end up in this? It is a family comedy, I can't think it would be too horrific or fatal.
Daisynjay
My biggest head scratcher is why we are getting perhaps a teaser that maybe the baby isn't Eeky's or Fer's? But we never saw any other candidate, so I'll go with it's Eeky's....poor little thing.
Now the question then becomes, how does Isa get her comeuppance so that the baby still winds up with Fer and family at the end of this? I know she doesn't really want to be a "mother" day in and day out, but I can't see her just handing the child over to them to adopt. Maybe we should take a poll - how will Isa end up in this? It is a family comedy, I can't think it would be too horrific or fatal.
Daisynjay
Permalink posted by : Wednesday, February 25, 2015 at 9:28:00 AM EST
: Wednesday, February 25, 2015 at 9:28:00 AM EST
I believe Isa will end up dead (and Freeky too). That way Yomama/Soledad/Ramona will end up together, possibly helped financially by Fernando... and that way Ana and Fernando can marry by church and keep DN.
Isabruja will probably end up in jail, as did Veronica in PEAM. That will disqualify her as a parent, no questions asked.
I agree that Fernando should come to the realization that nobody's perfect and that Ana hid this out of fear. What concerns me is that because of the timing of the revelation relative to the series length there won't be enough episodes left to resolve it this way. I've said it a number of times already, but this should have happened 30 episodes ago.
As I said yesterday, at least Fernando didn't do insults and name-calling, the thing I hate the most in confrontation scenes between lovers or between parents and adult children. This is what I regard as the least forgivable sin in communication in these stories. You can't take back these things because you can't erase it from the minds of the people who hear it.
If Fernando had ordered Fanny out of the house for her complicity, we'd all be hating him. The writers were at least smart enough to realize that.
He is aware of the possibility that Nick and Diego know about this. The next step should be a confrontation between him and Nick.
In the midst of all this I doubt it will occur to him that Enfrique was the one who tried to kill Nick even though he knows that Enfrique has it in for him. In fact, I am surprised that it didn't occur to him before this bomb fell when Isa told him about Enfrique's escape and what he is looking to do. He still thinks that Enfrique's main gripe is having been fired.
I agree that Fernando should come to the realization that nobody's perfect and that Ana hid this out of fear. What concerns me is that because of the timing of the revelation relative to the series length there won't be enough episodes left to resolve it this way. I've said it a number of times already, but this should have happened 30 episodes ago.
As I said yesterday, at least Fernando didn't do insults and name-calling, the thing I hate the most in confrontation scenes between lovers or between parents and adult children. This is what I regard as the least forgivable sin in communication in these stories. You can't take back these things because you can't erase it from the minds of the people who hear it.
If Fernando had ordered Fanny out of the house for her complicity, we'd all be hating him. The writers were at least smart enough to realize that.
He is aware of the possibility that Nick and Diego know about this. The next step should be a confrontation between him and Nick.
In the midst of all this I doubt it will occur to him that Enfrique was the one who tried to kill Nick even though he knows that Enfrique has it in for him. In fact, I am surprised that it didn't occur to him before this bomb fell when Isa told him about Enfrique's escape and what he is looking to do. He still thinks that Enfrique's main gripe is having been fired.
Marta
Splendid recap of again another emotionally charged episode. I thought you laid out a very valid and well thought out itemization of the escalation of Ana'lying to Fernando. It was enlightening to see the different phases of her lie or omission so well presented.
For a supposed comedy, we really are generating an depth analysis!
I'm tallying the votes.
Splendid recap of again another emotionally charged episode. I thought you laid out a very valid and well thought out itemization of the escalation of Ana'lying to Fernando. It was enlightening to see the different phases of her lie or omission so well presented.
For a supposed comedy, we really are generating an depth analysis!
I'm tallying the votes.
Marta, Fernando can get a religious annulment on the grounds that he was fraudulently coerced into marrying Isa when DN isn't his biological child. This presents no problem.
No matter how difficult, Fernando needs to see himself as a father first and then he will realize it is not all about him.
It seems like Fanny got the "maternal" role with the rest of her siblings when their mother died. Hardly fair to her. An accident of sex or age???? I wonder if Fernando has ever thought about that.
Jarifa
It seems like Fanny got the "maternal" role with the rest of her siblings when their mother died. Hardly fair to her. An accident of sex or age???? I wonder if Fernando has ever thought about that.
Jarifa
Permalink posted by : Wednesday, February 25, 2015 at 9:58:00 AM EST
: Wednesday, February 25, 2015 at 9:58:00 AM EST
A real quick note....
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Permalink posted by : Wednesday, February 25, 2015 at 10:25:00 AM EST
: Wednesday, February 25, 2015 at 10:25:00 AM EST
How Ana thought Fernando was some judgmental Ogre, that would not understand an admission with a rational explanation, after he helped find Soledad, knowing she had spent 20 years in prison for murder, then insisted she live at the house, ridiculous.
I fear Osorio doesn't intend a Fernando & Ana reunion, this late in the TN, and she rides off with the White Knight Angel. He's there to pick up the pieces of a shattered Ana and she gives him a go before Fernando can come to his senses. Osorio didn't bring in an Angel not to be used, and he hasn't had his shot yet. I'll scream bloody murder if he does.
I fear Osorio doesn't intend a Fernando & Ana reunion, this late in the TN, and she rides off with the White Knight Angel. He's there to pick up the pieces of a shattered Ana and she gives him a go before Fernando can come to his senses. Osorio didn't bring in an Angel not to be used, and he hasn't had his shot yet. I'll scream bloody murder if he does.
Amazing recap and comments from everyone!
I was surprised by how ferociously Nando went off on Ana and the type of woman she is, class of woman. It made me wonder if "class" came into his decision to pick Xime over Edith.
Poor Fanny getting hit on all sides.
Carolina: Agree totally about why Doro thought he was owed the money and that Ana would go after him.
I don't think Yomama will be the one to tell Fer the truth just because she knows the baby is better off with him.
I was surprised by how ferociously Nando went off on Ana and the type of woman she is, class of woman. It made me wonder if "class" came into his decision to pick Xime over Edith.
Poor Fanny getting hit on all sides.
Carolina: Agree totally about why Doro thought he was owed the money and that Ana would go after him.
I don't think Yomama will be the one to tell Fer the truth just because she knows the baby is better off with him.
Gracias, Marta, for a wonderful recap!
I vote for Yomama to reveal DN's paternity. Her silence keeps her from complete redemption, IMHO.
Marta - Death for Isabruja? Isn't that a bit extreme for a lighthearted comedy? Although, stabbing someone with an ice pick is extreme too. Hmmm... Would the TN writers actually go there?
Poor DN; he has little stability in his short life. He repeatedly gets handed off among the various characters. With whom has he had a chance to bond?
I vote for Yomama to reveal DN's paternity. Her silence keeps her from complete redemption, IMHO.
Marta - Death for Isabruja? Isn't that a bit extreme for a lighthearted comedy? Although, stabbing someone with an ice pick is extreme too. Hmmm... Would the TN writers actually go there?
Poor DN; he has little stability in his short life. He repeatedly gets handed off among the various characters. With whom has he had a chance to bond?
Permalink posted by : Wednesday, February 25, 2015 at 11:38:00 AM EST
: Wednesday, February 25, 2015 at 11:38:00 AM EST
Ok so maybe no death for ISabruja, but we have to send her to jail for the long hawl to be able to give Fernando and Ana the custody of DN. UA, I agree that the annulment of the church marriage is fairly easy since Isa tricked him into marrying her for the DN paternity, but they will have to work harder to get DN once it is known Fernando is not the daddy. *unless Isa ends up in jail and Freeky the same or dead.
Happy Wednesday everyone!! Marta, a million thanks for your recap. A lie is a lie be it black or white. Fer is allowed his anger and ego bruising but did Ana's lie really lead to anyone's death? Fer, when he calms down should put it all in perspective. What is really going to rock his boat, is when he finds out about Isa's gigantic lie. That will give him something to sink his teeth into. Nando is in mini-me mode. we will give him his ten minutes of anguish on daddy's behalf. Love all the awesome comments from everyone.
Hanna
Hanna
Permalink posted by : Wednesday, February 25, 2015 at 12:16:00 PM EST
: Wednesday, February 25, 2015 at 12:16:00 PM EST
Well, let's face it, sorry to the men out there,though I'm sure none of you are anything like this :)... but most of the lead men in this TN sort of have this "me Tarzan, you Jane" thing going where they may not always consciously, but often seem to think they are smarter then their female counterparts and thus have the right or understanding to tell them what to do, how to think, what is their role in their relationship with them. Or should I call it the Pygmalion complex. An ongoing tick I get in watching some of these dudes...it's almost as if, who's not as bad as the other guy.
That's why there was hope for Fer, still is I think, but I wasn't surprised at Nando. He's just being his dad. Leon did/does it, Diego did it, Nico, Lenin, Johny, and they are supposedly the good guys. They do it as if they are trying to better the females, in some cases it was acceptable, but other times it comes off terribly condescending. Angel just comes off as dazed and confused most times. What bugs me the most is that we've seen too often the women just taking it or agreeing to it.
Any wonder Nando took Ximena-- she Changed herself for him I think was how he thought of it. She's like a ball of clay willing to be what he wants? Okey dokey then. Anyone wonder if this is Osorio's thinking?
Daisynjay
That's why there was hope for Fer, still is I think, but I wasn't surprised at Nando. He's just being his dad. Leon did/does it, Diego did it, Nico, Lenin, Johny, and they are supposedly the good guys. They do it as if they are trying to better the females, in some cases it was acceptable, but other times it comes off terribly condescending. Angel just comes off as dazed and confused most times. What bugs me the most is that we've seen too often the women just taking it or agreeing to it.
Any wonder Nando took Ximena-- she Changed herself for him I think was how he thought of it. She's like a ball of clay willing to be what he wants? Okey dokey then. Anyone wonder if this is Osorio's thinking?
Daisynjay
Permalink posted by : Wednesday, February 25, 2015 at 12:59:00 PM EST
: Wednesday, February 25, 2015 at 12:59:00 PM EST
Tofie - (1) I miss your lists. (2) Personally, I would very much enjoy waking up to Dr. Angel professing his love for me. (3) I also wonder if there will be no reconciliation between Fernanduh and Ana since it's so late in the series.
Anon 9:21 - ITA with your Johnny rant. Apparently, though, lots of people see something in him I don't.
Marta - Thanks for reminding me of the 'escalations.' Ana had plenty of opportunities to tell the truth, and she didn't.
Urban - Why would Isabruja wind up in jail? I cannot recall her doing anything illegal.
Anon 9:21 - ITA with your Johnny rant. Apparently, though, lots of people see something in him I don't.
Marta - Thanks for reminding me of the 'escalations.' Ana had plenty of opportunities to tell the truth, and she didn't.
Urban - Why would Isabruja wind up in jail? I cannot recall her doing anything illegal.
Permalink posted by : Wednesday, February 25, 2015 at 1:00:00 PM EST
: Wednesday, February 25, 2015 at 1:00:00 PM EST
wouldn't it be funny if Isa ended up in jail because she was 'linked' to Dorofeo's business?? he could certainly pull that card if he finds himself lost and wants to take ultimate revenge on her. LOL!
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Permalink posted by : Wednesday, February 25, 2015 at 1:12:00 PM EST
: Wednesday, February 25, 2015 at 1:12:00 PM EST
Marta: thanks for the recap. I actually watched last night’s ep, even though I’m still playing catch up (going to be really weird to watch the engagement ep after this one). Thanks, also for the escalations of the lie.
Thanks UA for the recap yesterday. I think I might be able to manage watching that ep without cringing too much now that I know what to expect.
OK. Glad I’m not the only one who doesn’t consider what Fer did to Luz as that serious. She wakes up in the middle of the night and wants her Ana. What was he supposed to do? Say “Luz, I kicked Ana out of the house because she lied to me about being a pole dancer.”? It was a little white lie. He’s barely had time to process let alone think of a way to tell the children.
Nando’s reaction was a surprise for me—at first. But, as others have said, he’s a mini-Fer. Which is why I’m a little surprised the writers had him choose Xi. Edith is more the out of the box type—like Ana.
I thought Fanny told Fer that Nico and Diego knew, too.
EB: Isa still has time to do something to get her jailed. Hopefully.
Marta: love your idea for Isa.
Nanette
Thanks UA for the recap yesterday. I think I might be able to manage watching that ep without cringing too much now that I know what to expect.
OK. Glad I’m not the only one who doesn’t consider what Fer did to Luz as that serious. She wakes up in the middle of the night and wants her Ana. What was he supposed to do? Say “Luz, I kicked Ana out of the house because she lied to me about being a pole dancer.”? It was a little white lie. He’s barely had time to process let alone think of a way to tell the children.
Nando’s reaction was a surprise for me—at first. But, as others have said, he’s a mini-Fer. Which is why I’m a little surprised the writers had him choose Xi. Edith is more the out of the box type—like Ana.
I thought Fanny told Fer that Nico and Diego knew, too.
EB: Isa still has time to do something to get her jailed. Hopefully.
Marta: love your idea for Isa.
Nanette
Permalink posted by : Wednesday, February 25, 2015 at 1:13:00 PM EST
: Wednesday, February 25, 2015 at 1:13:00 PM EST
Thanks for the great recap, Marta! You said it all...I agree with your comparison of Fernando's lie and Ana's lies. He needs a little time to calm down and reflect objectively.
Marea Primavera
Marea Primavera
Permalink posted by : Wednesday, February 25, 2015 at 1:36:00 PM EST
: Wednesday, February 25, 2015 at 1:36:00 PM EST
EB, I still provide list, did it for Gata and the new one La Sombra del Pasado. Hee Hee There is plenty of fodder now on this one though
EB, Isabruja caused Sebastian's accident. That qualifies as assault.
I don't remember if Yomama knows this or not. If she does she needs to rat her out. Yesterday.
And if Isa ends up in jail and Freaky in the manicomio, who is left to care for the baby? Yomama is too old to do this alone and I don't think they or Freaky have any other relatives (at least none that they ever mentioned). It could be that some will come out of the woodwork or the baby will be adopted by any of the couples in the story.
And if Osorio doesn't put Ana and Fernando back together and puts her with Angel I think Jorge Salinas will be very peeved. He's still galan material and he's used to getting the girl. Not to mention that this would change the character and rebroadcast potential of the series. I don't think Televisa wants that.
I don't remember if Yomama knows this or not. If she does she needs to rat her out. Yesterday.
And if Isa ends up in jail and Freaky in the manicomio, who is left to care for the baby? Yomama is too old to do this alone and I don't think they or Freaky have any other relatives (at least none that they ever mentioned). It could be that some will come out of the woodwork or the baby will be adopted by any of the couples in the story.
And if Osorio doesn't put Ana and Fernando back together and puts her with Angel I think Jorge Salinas will be very peeved. He's still galan material and he's used to getting the girl. Not to mention that this would change the character and rebroadcast potential of the series. I don't think Televisa wants that.
Victoria,
I am liking the option of Isabela telling Fernando in a fit of rage - or perhaps fear. She is closing herself in and has been lucky so far with Doroteo and with Freeky, but that luck may start to run out. Doroteo is going into hiding but Freeky is still hovering around and out for blood.
I can't imagine that Ana and Fer will not be reunited in the end. Osorio is too much of a showman to want to upset the audience as he markets his 15 additional internet episodes! He's planning to have lots of stars there for the finale or at least the showing of it. He has made all kinds of goofy choices in this novela, responding I would guess to what he thinks viewers want. And he dragged many things out with the kids' romance to build an audience.
And, he's got two big stars who signed on for an early evening comedy that has been hugely popular in two countries already. Screwing up their reconciliation would break all the novela rules.
I do think that there may well be a "meses despise" time lag. As long as it's not "years later" I can deal with it.
I am liking the option of Isabela telling Fernando in a fit of rage - or perhaps fear. She is closing herself in and has been lucky so far with Doroteo and with Freeky, but that luck may start to run out. Doroteo is going into hiding but Freeky is still hovering around and out for blood.
I can't imagine that Ana and Fer will not be reunited in the end. Osorio is too much of a showman to want to upset the audience as he markets his 15 additional internet episodes! He's planning to have lots of stars there for the finale or at least the showing of it. He has made all kinds of goofy choices in this novela, responding I would guess to what he thinks viewers want. And he dragged many things out with the kids' romance to build an audience.
And, he's got two big stars who signed on for an early evening comedy that has been hugely popular in two countries already. Screwing up their reconciliation would break all the novela rules.
I do think that there may well be a "meses despise" time lag. As long as it's not "years later" I can deal with it.
Thank you Marta, great recap. I just got to butt in. I am horrified the way the people around Ana can't call the emergency or at least which is not recommended, take her to the nearest hospital. She is having a heart attack and yet they call the doctor who is half an hour away. Is that house in the boodocls that there is no nearest hospital around? If they call emergency, that truck is equipped to handle Ana. Why are the writers making these smart people all dumb and making this novella laughable? Anne
Permalink posted by : Wednesday, February 25, 2015 at 2:43:00 PM EST
: Wednesday, February 25, 2015 at 2:43:00 PM EST
Thanks Marta !! My theory based on TN cliches is that Fanny will be kidnapped by Freaky which will make Fer and Nando distraught over their recent treatment of her. That may lead to more rational thinking on Fer and Nando's part. I also think there has to be a time jump if Ana and Fer reunite. Not a spoiler.
Permalink posted by : Wednesday, February 25, 2015 at 2:44:00 PM EST
: Wednesday, February 25, 2015 at 2:44:00 PM EST
I'm afraid of that very thing. Like Ana being pregnant in the next episode or so, she doesn't tell Fernando, and he finds out when Luz graduates college. That would make me scream bloody murder.
UA, a bit extreme scenario? i doubt Fernando would put in question the paternity of Ana's baby if she ends up preggers from the beach nights... no matter what ... esp if everyone else around him vows to her being faithful to him...
but your scenario still has a chance... one in a million but a chance nonetheless.
but your scenario still has a chance... one in a million but a chance nonetheless.
Freeky knows where to hurt Fernando if that is his main goal... the first ones on the list would be the kids AND Ana even if Fernando and Ana are not together Freeky knows how much Fernando loves Ana...
I just want Isa to be on that list too, although Freeky knows Fernando would not be so alarmed about her being in danger as he would be about any kids or Ana being in danger.
And to clarify, Fernando asked Bruno if possibly Nico and Diego also knew about Ana. It did not come up during his argument with Ana or during his scene with Fanny. He is only assuming that they might now, but noone has confirmed or denied that possibility.
I just want Isa to be on that list too, although Freeky knows Fernando would not be so alarmed about her being in danger as he would be about any kids or Ana being in danger.
And to clarify, Fernando asked Bruno if possibly Nico and Diego also knew about Ana. It did not come up during his argument with Ana or during his scene with Fanny. He is only assuming that they might now, but noone has confirmed or denied that possibility.
Thanks, Marta, for the clarification. I thought I read in that ep's recap/comments that Fan had told him. Must have misunderstood.
Permalink posted by : Wednesday, February 25, 2015 at 3:13:00 PM EST
: Wednesday, February 25, 2015 at 3:13:00 PM EST
What I am suggesting is that she runs to El Oro with Soledad and avoids running into him so he doesn't even know. Such things have been done before and it would be criminal for these two to waste even only one year on anger and misunderstanding.
Nando’s reaction was a surprise for me—at first. But, as others have said, he’s a mini-Fer. Which is why I’m a little surprised the writers had him choose Xi. Edith is more the out of the box type—like Ana.
Remember, Nando was very attracted to Edith when she was "Elisa"...who was more like Ximena. Edith knew Nando would go for Elisa/Ximena type instead of a goth type.
I think Nando was lashing out in anger because he knows how much they all love Ana, and the family was in such a bad way when Fanny Sr. died, and he knows when Ana goes away the family will return to that bad state. I don't fault him for that at all.
Fernando SHOULD have broken up Fanny & Nando's fight but quite frankly he's probably happy to have at least ONE person on his side. EVERYONE has run to Ana's aid & comfort, not his. And almost everyone near & dear to him (Ana, Fanny, Diego & Nico as well as former stepmother Jennifer) were in cahoots & hid this important secret from him.
Remember, Nando was very attracted to Edith when she was "Elisa"...who was more like Ximena. Edith knew Nando would go for Elisa/Ximena type instead of a goth type.
I think Nando was lashing out in anger because he knows how much they all love Ana, and the family was in such a bad way when Fanny Sr. died, and he knows when Ana goes away the family will return to that bad state. I don't fault him for that at all.
Fernando SHOULD have broken up Fanny & Nando's fight but quite frankly he's probably happy to have at least ONE person on his side. EVERYONE has run to Ana's aid & comfort, not his. And almost everyone near & dear to him (Ana, Fanny, Diego & Nico as well as former stepmother Jennifer) were in cahoots & hid this important secret from him.
Permalink posted by : Wednesday, February 25, 2015 at 3:30:00 PM EST
: Wednesday, February 25, 2015 at 3:30:00 PM EST
I would hope that if Ana does get preggers she wouldn't hide it because it would then be another lie to Fer. I really hope she's not pregnant. Fer make the same mistake twice? No.
Not if you consider their last encounter when he said "I never want to see you again." If she takes that at face value, hiding a baby from him wouldn't be a lie.
We all know the notorious lack of contraception in novelas. Nando is the only example I can recall of a guy buying condoms.
We all know the notorious lack of contraception in novelas. Nando is the only example I can recall of a guy buying condoms.
It appears to me that SN is already starting to show that she is pregnant. I noticed that the directors are shooting her from chest up, covered up by something to hide her waistline, or she wears billowy tops to hide her pregnancy.
So it seems that Urban might be right and Ana turns up pregnant in the last episodes which would allow Osorio to write SN's pregnancy into the script. She looked pretty pregnant to me last night.
So it seems that Urban might be right and Ana turns up pregnant in the last episodes which would allow Osorio to write SN's pregnancy into the script. She looked pretty pregnant to me last night.
I must be missing something. Wasn't Ana's work at Chicago forced by the fact of something like a gangland mob threat? Recall what happened when Johnny went against that thug? He was pretty close to killed. And that sort of threat seemed behind a lot of Ana's reason to keep the job...and, how would you explain something like that to Fernando? Where to begin? She more or less stumbled into the nanny job, didn't she? I don't recall her presenting herself as a bastion of upright morality. And wasn't she forced into holding onto the Chicago job by pretty severe financial challenges? She was not "to the manor born." I do hope that all of the circumstances come to light for Fer and if so, it may be a bit difficult for Mr. Morality to be such a quick judge after-all.
Fernando could make the argument that Ana put them all in danger from Gordofeo and his minions, although that danger wasn't apparent to us at the outset.
Gordofeo's violence against Johnny was about money he allegedly owed, although I am of the opinion that his M.O. was to never consider that any of their debts would ever be paid off no matter how much money they handed over. He counted on their fear to keep them in bondage.
It now occurs to me that Diego should have known that back in the day when he tried to pay off Ana's debt behind her back. Dorofeo described her as his cash cow and said he would never let her go. Because she is not to the manor born she felt she had no power to fight him.
And I'm guessing that Mexico is somewhere behind the US in the justice women get from the law vs guys like that.
I still stand on my earlier statement that Enfrique presents a far greater danger than Gordofeo does, as the latter is currently planning to escape.
Gordofeo's violence against Johnny was about money he allegedly owed, although I am of the opinion that his M.O. was to never consider that any of their debts would ever be paid off no matter how much money they handed over. He counted on their fear to keep them in bondage.
It now occurs to me that Diego should have known that back in the day when he tried to pay off Ana's debt behind her back. Dorofeo described her as his cash cow and said he would never let her go. Because she is not to the manor born she felt she had no power to fight him.
And I'm guessing that Mexico is somewhere behind the US in the justice women get from the law vs guys like that.
I still stand on my earlier statement that Enfrique presents a far greater danger than Gordofeo does, as the latter is currently planning to escape.
Lying is lying. Ana had very valid reasons to lie. Fernando had a valid reason to lie. Lying to your children whether "white lies" or otherwise is equally as bad as any other lie that could be told. Fernando needs to practice what he preaches. Stop underestimating children. They are people too, and they deserve to know the truth. Fernando liar pants!
Permalink posted by : Wednesday, February 25, 2015 at 5:02:00 PM EST
: Wednesday, February 25, 2015 at 5:02:00 PM EST
I think by Gorodfeo beating up and locking Johnny, he was sending Ana a message that she was his 'property' rather than it being all about teh money Johnny owed Gordofeo. Johnny could have run away and Gordofeo would not have even flinced. But Gordofeo knew that Ana really cared about Johnny as a friend if not anymore as a bf... and he knew that by hurting/threatening Ana's friends he could have her at his mercy. Remember when Ana showed up with her lawyer Gordofeo threatened Ana in front of the lawyer that he would hurt her beloved 'kids'. Ana charged him but the lawyer said it was jus threats and they would write it in the new contract that he could not go against anyone that was dear to Ana (I think that included any Lascurain family member after he had threatened her with hurting them)
and I agree, that Freeky in his state of mind is more dangerous than Dorofeo... at least given their record to date. Dorofeo has beat up Johnny but has not killed or ordered the killing of anyone whereas Freeky has some of those already under his belt.
and I agree, that Freeky in his state of mind is more dangerous than Dorofeo... at least given their record to date. Dorofeo has beat up Johnny but has not killed or ordered the killing of anyone whereas Freeky has some of those already under his belt.
Diego and maybe Jennifer & Johnny are the only ones who could possibly get Fernando to reconsider Ana regarding Doroteo keeping Ana hostage with the contract.
Diego tried to buy out Ana's contract from Doroteo but he refused and kept her captive.
Jennifer & Johnny could attest to the fact Doroteo would use physical harm to hurt Ana if she would leave.
And somebody could remind him of the times Doroteo popped up at the Lascurain home regarding Ana.
Of course, Fernando would probably be even MORE pissed that Ana trusted Diego with her predicament instead of him.
But then somebody would need to remind Fernando that at the time Ana told Diego about her predicament, he was married to Isabela.
Truthfully, Ana should've told Fernando about Chicago BUT only after they became a couple.
She had no obligation as an employee to inform Fernando about her extracurricular activities.
She had no obligation to tell Fernando about her non-nanny life while he was married to Isabela.
She had no obligation to tell Fernando about her non-nanny life while she was involved with Diego.
"But, but, you LIED to us for a year!"
Well, most of that year, Ana's pole dancing was none of your business.
In my opinion, only when Ana & Fernando decided to move towards being a couple (which would be after his divorce from Isabela / Diego leaving town /Diego Nicolas being born) would she really be obligated to tell him about her pole dancing life.
Ana's truth really isn't Fanny, Diego, Nico, Soledad, Johnny or Jennifer's to tell.
Diego tried to buy out Ana's contract from Doroteo but he refused and kept her captive.
Jennifer & Johnny could attest to the fact Doroteo would use physical harm to hurt Ana if she would leave.
And somebody could remind him of the times Doroteo popped up at the Lascurain home regarding Ana.
Of course, Fernando would probably be even MORE pissed that Ana trusted Diego with her predicament instead of him.
But then somebody would need to remind Fernando that at the time Ana told Diego about her predicament, he was married to Isabela.
Truthfully, Ana should've told Fernando about Chicago BUT only after they became a couple.
She had no obligation as an employee to inform Fernando about her extracurricular activities.
She had no obligation to tell Fernando about her non-nanny life while he was married to Isabela.
She had no obligation to tell Fernando about her non-nanny life while she was involved with Diego.
"But, but, you LIED to us for a year!"
Well, most of that year, Ana's pole dancing was none of your business.
In my opinion, only when Ana & Fernando decided to move towards being a couple (which would be after his divorce from Isabela / Diego leaving town /Diego Nicolas being born) would she really be obligated to tell him about her pole dancing life.
Ana's truth really isn't Fanny, Diego, Nico, Soledad, Johnny or Jennifer's to tell.
Permalink posted by : Wednesday, February 25, 2015 at 5:12:00 PM EST
: Wednesday, February 25, 2015 at 5:12:00 PM EST
UA,
He counted on their fear to keep them in bondage.
so true, that is why he was sooo surprised that Ana behaved like that when he was threatening with hurting Dana and she even brought a lawyer... Gordofeo was totally in shock at her strategy.
And i don't think Diego told anyone that Gordofeo had told him that about Ana being his 'profit cow', maybe only Nico and ANa... Diego went to offer Gordofeo money to release ANa from her contract PRECISELY because he did not know what kind of thug Gordofeo was... then when Gordofeo pulled a gun to his face Diego realized things needed to be resolved in a different way. But that is when Ana asked him not to interfere. And Diego realized Fernando better not know.
I am not totally agreeing that if Fernando told Ana 'i never want to see you again', that would also include a child of his... He seems to be very proper and caring about any child of his, regardless of the circumstances that child was conceived in... So he would not like finding out years later... when he could have given the child the support from day one. But would Fernando assume the baby was his or would he put that into question?
He counted on their fear to keep them in bondage.
so true, that is why he was sooo surprised that Ana behaved like that when he was threatening with hurting Dana and she even brought a lawyer... Gordofeo was totally in shock at her strategy.
And i don't think Diego told anyone that Gordofeo had told him that about Ana being his 'profit cow', maybe only Nico and ANa... Diego went to offer Gordofeo money to release ANa from her contract PRECISELY because he did not know what kind of thug Gordofeo was... then when Gordofeo pulled a gun to his face Diego realized things needed to be resolved in a different way. But that is when Ana asked him not to interfere. And Diego realized Fernando better not know.
I am not totally agreeing that if Fernando told Ana 'i never want to see you again', that would also include a child of his... He seems to be very proper and caring about any child of his, regardless of the circumstances that child was conceived in... So he would not like finding out years later... when he could have given the child the support from day one. But would Fernando assume the baby was his or would he put that into question?
I agree, Anon207, that Ana should have told him AT LEAST when she decided to 'accept him back' and kissed him at xmas time. Waiting until after xmas and the new year was understandable, but definitely waiting until they were together at the beach and accepting the proposal without telling him WAS NOT. And he let her know that during the argument.
Also agree that it was not his business what she did after hours before they got back together, but since she knew how much TRANSPARENCY and HONESTY meant to him, she should have told him before she accepted him back as her bf after he got his divorce.
“ and convinced Fanny to lie for her. ” – Adriana Noel –
I disagree. Ana never convinced Fannie. Fannie was about to tell her father when she saw that Luz began talking because of Ana. At that moment she understood that for Luz, having Ana was a good thing, so she (Fannie) decided to not tell her dad. And Fannie was right. Soon afterward Ana won over Licha then the twins and then Sebastian.
The whole “who is worse” discussion is interesting. I think Ana should have told Fer. No way around that, but I also see the motives why she did not. While I disagree with Ana’s decision I can’t condemn her for it. The Lascurains’ rescued Ana from a life of void and no future (between Johnny and Chicago she was going down a bad path) and the first thing she did was rescue them back. Beyond the love between Fer and Ana there is a bond to everyone in that household that can’t be broken and that Fernando has to see.
Poetic justice: The fate of Isabela. Acid burning her face? I group with those that stated that this is a bit too extreme. Even if I agreed with such a fate I don’t think that it would be real justice. The problem I have with creating a fate for her is that the character has not shown any Achilles heel. We know that she likes money and hates nacos. A possible fate is for her to develop some mental instability that would prevent her from holding a job forcing her to live on the streets begging for money, only able to afford very simple clothes that in her mind “only a naco would wear”. Maybe she’ll end up as a stripper at some not-rated-G club. The worse fate within this future is that it will be her inability to yield that will keep her prisoner.
The vote as to how Fernando will find out about DN: I would like to vote for IkkyLiz. This would be the most impactful. Let Fernando find out in the worst possible way about Isabela to complement the way he found out about Ana’s dancing. Yes, put me down for IkkyLiz!
IkkyLizard!
Kick’em, stab ‘em, throw ‘em to the ground
No finer psycho can be found!
The ‘Liz got game, the ‘Liz got go
He’ll never fail to show!
Sigh. Unfortunately the Liz is up against the formidable Carmen Salinas brand. As others speculate it is just so probable that it will be her to tell Fernando even if this will totally wreck the complement against the Ana reveal. This will feel so unbalanced. I’ll stick with Team Liz.
I disagree. Ana never convinced Fannie. Fannie was about to tell her father when she saw that Luz began talking because of Ana. At that moment she understood that for Luz, having Ana was a good thing, so she (Fannie) decided to not tell her dad. And Fannie was right. Soon afterward Ana won over Licha then the twins and then Sebastian.
The whole “who is worse” discussion is interesting. I think Ana should have told Fer. No way around that, but I also see the motives why she did not. While I disagree with Ana’s decision I can’t condemn her for it. The Lascurains’ rescued Ana from a life of void and no future (between Johnny and Chicago she was going down a bad path) and the first thing she did was rescue them back. Beyond the love between Fer and Ana there is a bond to everyone in that household that can’t be broken and that Fernando has to see.
Poetic justice: The fate of Isabela. Acid burning her face? I group with those that stated that this is a bit too extreme. Even if I agreed with such a fate I don’t think that it would be real justice. The problem I have with creating a fate for her is that the character has not shown any Achilles heel. We know that she likes money and hates nacos. A possible fate is for her to develop some mental instability that would prevent her from holding a job forcing her to live on the streets begging for money, only able to afford very simple clothes that in her mind “only a naco would wear”. Maybe she’ll end up as a stripper at some not-rated-G club. The worse fate within this future is that it will be her inability to yield that will keep her prisoner.
The vote as to how Fernando will find out about DN: I would like to vote for IkkyLiz. This would be the most impactful. Let Fernando find out in the worst possible way about Isabela to complement the way he found out about Ana’s dancing. Yes, put me down for IkkyLiz!
IkkyLizard!
Kick’em, stab ‘em, throw ‘em to the ground
No finer psycho can be found!
The ‘Liz got game, the ‘Liz got go
He’ll never fail to show!
Sigh. Unfortunately the Liz is up against the formidable Carmen Salinas brand. As others speculate it is just so probable that it will be her to tell Fernando even if this will totally wreck the complement against the Ana reveal. This will feel so unbalanced. I’ll stick with Team Liz.
Permalink posted by : Wednesday, February 25, 2015 at 5:25:00 PM EST
: Wednesday, February 25, 2015 at 5:25:00 PM EST
I've got the perfect karmageddon for Isabruja. Someone discovers she plagiarized her dissertation, and Harvard revokes her degree!! Then she has no other choice but to pole dance or sell tacos on the corner! PERFECT
Permalink posted by : Wednesday, February 25, 2015 at 5:59:00 PM EST
: Wednesday, February 25, 2015 at 5:59:00 PM EST
I think had Ana told Fernando he would have done something about Doroteo and not dropped it like Diego did, in fact had Doroteo threatened or said she was his cash cow Fernando would have crushed the guy. Diego has been gone for 20 years, Fernando is well thought of and has plenty of connections. Likely one call and that place would be bulldozed.
Ana knew lying to Fernando was wrong, she said many times that he didn't deserve it.
Ana knew lying to Fernando was wrong, she said many times that he didn't deserve it.
tofie,
had Doroteo threatened or said she was his cash cow Fernando would have crushed the guy. Diego has been gone for 20 years, Fernando is well thought of and has plenty of connections. Likely one call and that place would be bulldozed.
LOL about the bulldozed Chicago.
the problem is that would have cost Fernando a huge scandal for being related to both the Chicago and to a woman who used to dance there... not that Fernando would have thought that so critical but it would have caused a scandal for the company for sure.
had Doroteo threatened or said she was his cash cow Fernando would have crushed the guy. Diego has been gone for 20 years, Fernando is well thought of and has plenty of connections. Likely one call and that place would be bulldozed.
LOL about the bulldozed Chicago.
the problem is that would have cost Fernando a huge scandal for being related to both the Chicago and to a woman who used to dance there... not that Fernando would have thought that so critical but it would have caused a scandal for the company for sure.
Eduardo, that bebe is blessed to be passed around by so many people that love him. The majority of Hispanics are actually involved in raising their children. They do not throw their kids in daycare like most Americans. They like to keep the babies cared for by family. The Lascurain mansion is one big family!! That baby is very lucky. :)
Permalink posted by : Wednesday, February 25, 2015 at 10:55:00 PM EST
: Wednesday, February 25, 2015 at 10:55:00 PM EST
Salvador
You brought up 2 alternative anvils for Isabruja's fate. While Urban hasn't yet posted her comment / opinion / idea -- generating 'Karmageddon' discussion, I must say that out of the 2 alternative anvils you gave, I absolutely vote for the second in which Isabruja ends up as a STRIPPER at some sleazy, XXXR rated strip joint! Yeah....
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You brought up 2 alternative anvils for Isabruja's fate. While Urban hasn't yet posted her comment / opinion / idea -- generating 'Karmageddon' discussion, I must say that out of the 2 alternative anvils you gave, I absolutely vote for the second in which Isabruja ends up as a STRIPPER at some sleazy, XXXR rated strip joint! Yeah....
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