Tuesday, June 16, 2015
Lo Imperdonable #21 Mon 6/15/15 I liked you better when you were delirious, Crazy Marty.
Labels: imperdonable
Am I alone in finding most of our character exaggerated caricatures, or am I just stating the obvious? Not that they're not entertaining, in their own bizarre way.
Nanci needs to start selling her remedies online, unless they only work when they're freshly brewed. I liked seeing Crazy Marty carry on as though he didn't have any large green leaves plastered on his forehead and side.
It was amazing that Grumpy Gramps made Manuel go to the jail cell. Not sure how long he'll stay there, but every day he's locked away is a good day.
kj
Well, Dr. Nanciyaga, Medicine Woman has some awesome skilz.
What is up with Manuel ? Why is this guy always so angry ? Is it the headband?...too tight, perhaps ?
Dr. F....yes, that says it all.
I watched the episode and was glad I did since it was so satisfying watching Pablo punch Manuel and seeing him hauled off to cave jail. I'm sure he'll be out soon, but for the moment it's satisfying.
Could not believe that with all the evidence, the cops flat out refused to arrest Manny until they were threatened with the Federales.
Please, please let those two beyotches, Virginia and Claudia, concentrate on fighting each other over Emi. That would be so much fun, and would mean they'd be too busy to mess with Vero. She's got enough on her plate with the a**hole she married.
Could not believe when Marty continued to malign Vero's character by telling his head miner that Vero is another type of gold digger. Now, everyone in the mine will believe this crap. Ugh!
I'm looking forward to seeing his plan BACKFIRE when he looks like an idiot!
Even Y&R's Victor "You Got That" Newman was smarter in planning revenge plots, etc.,
At least Abuelo is not all bad - he is a dirty old perv, but he does have some sort of morals, IMO.
If Virginia ends up in Mina Escondida for some reason, I'm looking forward to see the two "Headbands" cross paths. I can see a lot of steamy disgusting rolls in the gold mine for them. And I have the feeling that Manuel won't care that much that she's an outsider.
I laughed along with the Prado Castelo clan as they mocked Virginia's desire to work. Not sure what she was pouting about. This is the result of her expert acting all these years. Now they all think she's a useless weakling. Well done, Virginia.
"It's my fault he's dead."
"(And tears. REAL ones.) "
Who could not be affected by her grief?
I was wondering how long it would take for Martín to resume his quest for revenge and he revealed last night that he is truly committed and will not be deterred by any evidence (let alone THE TRUTH) that he just might be mistaken. Hey, after all, a promise is a promise.
Amazing that he is recuperating so quickly, especially since he was stabbed in the abdomen in a spot that almost guaranteed that his ascending colon was perforated and the ill-advised suturing would trap poop surely dumping into his abdominal cavity. He must be wired a bit differently than the rest of us... or perhaps Manuel is more nimble with a knife than we think. In any case it's at least a minor miracle that he is on the mend... or maybe Dr. Nanciyaga is not your run of the mill curandera and Padre Juan has divine suturing skills. Dr. Botel certainly could not have achieved any better result.
By the way, is it too early to be setting up a Crescencio table on the Patio? I'm guessing that he is redeemable.
Carlos
Though I don't understand why she stays with an abusive husband like her mother did, until he almost killed her, at least Veronica isn't in total denial but our wonderful galan has pulled a fast one and shut up the only person in the whole wide world that would have truthfully warned the girl. Is she gonna have to threaten to call Padre's big boss, worked with the popo.
Martin is tolerable only as a semi conscious prop.
The nerve of Pablo, really, the screwball can't help but perpetuate his lie, he does it because he thinks Ana Perla a mooneyed hick.
Didn't see Claudia eyeballing Emi coming.
Virginia, he killed himself cause he is nutty as his big bro so don't go power tripping. The tears a nice touch though.
Toss up for best kick in the teeth of the night. Manuel goes to jail or Virginia overhearing Jorge, Salma & Emi laughing when Jorge said he could have her separate the pencils at the office by color.
An co-worker told me many years ago that he always loops back after leaving a room to stand just barely out of sight to hear his post-departure comments. At the time I thought it soooo wierd, but in retrospect there are a lot of Virginias out there.
Carlos, perhaps Nanciayaga's magic leaves draw out all of the poop floating around in Marty's abdomen but has transferred it to his brain.
I loved the scene where Ana Perla is giving Onix a head massage. Onix was really into it.
Nina, I read your last comment from the weekend's recap late last night. It gave me a good giggle and I'm ITA with your sentiments.
Barbara
Yup Tofie, I have known some squirrels before but Mart and Dimmy are up at the top of the tree.
I would like to know how Vsnake initially got her fangs into little Dr. Danny. Thus far, I really do feel sorry for him as he is astonishingly innocent to have a Doctorate.
I think Pablo actually does care about Ana P but doesn't know what to do with the 'Other' girl, who is home planning a wedding. Yikes!
La Paloma,
"Am I alone in finding most of our character exaggerated caricatures, or am I just stating the obvious? Not that they're not entertaining, in their own bizarre way."
My first reaction to this was that ALL TN characters are like this, but on reflection, I think you may be onto something, especially when it comes to our galán. Definitely broad strokes here. Who needs nuance? Let the BBC keep their stinkin' nuance!
(And yes, it was hilarious to see Crazy Marty apparently oblivious to the LARGE green leaves with which he was bedecked. Wouldn't you love to see the outtakes from that day on the set?)
Kirby,
So happy to oblige. There WERE some very satisfying moments in this episode, including Manny's long overdue comeuppance. I'm glad you and Tofie reminded us of the pencil sorting crack. They're not very nice people, those Prado C's, are they?
Susanlynn,
Headbands are fraught. That's all I'm gonna say about it.
"Nanciyaga, Medicine Woman" – I like it! (and will probably steal it)
I'm rather fond of "Dr. F" myself (the nickname, not the character). Simple is always best, I find.
I couldn't believe the cops were more frightened of the federales than of Crescencio and was pretty surprised that they ended up hauling Manny off to Cave Jail.
Maybe now Ginny will tell Salma that Claudia really is too vulgar after all. But it will be too late because now she can claim to be Emi's friend.
As for Marty maligning Vero after all they've just gone through together, he looks like a bigger jerk than ever. Vero keeps reading lines that say she loves him, but The Patio sees nothing lovable about him at all. (Maybe she should have gone to Europe. Alone.)
Adriana,
So happy you enjoyed the ride.
"he [was] a dirty old perv, but he [had] some sort of morals" – I think that would make a great epitaph, don't you?
The two headbands swapping spit? You think? hah.
"Is it too early to be setting up a Crescencio table on the Patio? I'm guessing that he is redeemable."
Hmm. It may be... unless we set it up in the Pavilion of the Tragically Flawed But Not Irredeemable, (a Pavilion that is likely to see a lot of traffic before we are done here).
It was a tough day for Ginny. I did try to do right by her.
Thanks for explaining why Marty's cure was so miraculous. (I wouldn't have put money on Botel being equal to the situation. Marty's odds were way better with a holy suturer and a curandera.)
tofie,
Loved your whole comment (as usual).
"Martin is tolerable only as a semi conscious prop."
Indeed.
As for Pablo's nerve – have you noticed what a compulsive flirt he is? The girls just can't resist old lettuce eyes.
Barbara,
What a creative explanation for Marty's behavior! Patio science at its best!
Ana Perla gives Onix a head massage? How did I miss that? I MUST go back and look for it!
Thanks to everyone for the nice words!
And the "Headbands " will meet when the time comes for little miss Pink to visit her beloved cousin.
Carlos, a table on the patio for Crescencio? Does Marty have one yet? Not that he deserves it, but you know, we need a place to rest while watching his leaves covered chest.
A "rude" Dear Mariana fax would be a whole lot kinder than what Pablo is doing now. [Artists rarely come up smelling like roses in telenovelas, it seems to me.]
tofie,
Stupid or mean? I say Pablo's the kind of putz who believes his own story so he never has to confront the question. He'll keep on stringing Mariana along as long as he can (without admitting to himself that he's doing so) because he needs her support.
susanlynn,
Pipsqueak or putz, he's definitely not boyfriend material
Adriana,
I wonder about a visit to the prima. It seems pretty risky for Ginny to venture a visit to Mina Escondida. Hasn't Nanciyaga seen her photo in a locket or something? She is the definitive MALA MUJER, after all.
I believe Marty has a table, but the only one sitting there was Claudia. Now that she's making eyes at young Emi, there's a whole lot of room. :D
[Onix has quite a crowd at his table.]
Loved Manuel going off to jail but I'm sure that he won't be there for very long. First thing when he gets out will be to go shopping for a new knife.
Dr. Carlos---Abdomen? I checked Wikipedia and Web MD. In both cases the abdomen is clearly shown to be in the front or stomach area of the body. Check out the video.
Martin was stabbed in the side not the front. Anyway, whatever---You are on your way out. You medical services are no longer needed as Dr. Nanci's magic leaves have taken over as the top medical cure. Besides if I needed treatment and had a choice I would choose Dr. Nanci each and every time. In fact, I might even fake being ill just to have her treat me.
the gringo
the gringo
You know I would like the character of Emiliano if he wasn't played by SS. With his intensity, crazy eyes and deep, rough voice, I'm just waiting for him to go BSC. Though the characters words and scenes say something else. I can forgive the jealousy. His instincts about Martin are right on even if seen through jealous eyes. He cried that he doesn't want to drink anymore...he is trying to build a relationship with Ginny after what Nana said. He is doing and saying all of the right things and yet I can't warm to him because of SS.
I believe that Pablo believes what he is saying. His attraction to Ana Perla is very real, but he is still unable or unwilling to face Mariana and the consequences of breaking up with her. This is not how grown-ups are supposed to behave. And I guess we'll find out how vengeful Mariana turns out to be (I'd rather see her take up with Alfredo, for example, than get hung up on the Vengeance-Go-Round).
Carvivlie,
What a great point about the disconnect between the character of Emiliano and the actor playing him. For me, it's Sergio's rough, older man voice that is the sticking point. (I wonder if SS is even capable of playing anything other than a simmering rage monster.)
"Perhaps had Manuel stabbed Martin in the prefrontal lobe, we'd have ourselves a chance at romance."
hahahahahahahahahaha!
Romy
"Believe me, this hurts me more than it does you."
Seems like I've heard that before somewhere in my dim past.
My dear gringo,
Perhaps if you'd try visualizing the abdominal cavity in 3 dimension. I assure you, I've had first hand and hands on experience with stab wounds almost identical to the one that Martín received. Next!
Carlos
The comments are wonderful as well. I've been laughing out loud here at work and getting some strange looks from my companeros de trabajo.
I must give a shout out to Carlos for helping us with the medical treatments. And also to gringo for choosing Dr. Nanci as his favorite physician.
Dr Carlos, I knew I'd find you on this patio when I saw that Gretal Valdez, complete with headbands, was in the cast. Your kind words for such a meanie are remarkable. Have you ever seen her as a good girl, as in "Angel Rebelde"? I think I like her better that way.
It was so satisfying watching Manuel being punched out then being hauled away off to that cave jail. Great scenes. BTW I loved how Manuel found himself unarmed then found out that he's not so brave without his little knife. He looked so afraid after Pablo punched him out and didn't even attempt to fight back.
I think Pablo feels like he owes Mariana a lot (since she has helped him with his career) and is so grateful to her that he finds it hard to break up with her.
BTW last time we saw Mariana she was sad and missing Pablo and Montse suggested they packed their bags and head over to Mina Escondida. So I assumed they would be going over there and was surprised to find out that they were still in the city.
That was funny how Salma used her charms to get what she wanted from Jorge. I knew that was what she was going to do when we saw that bedroom scene with them.
So Virginia really did love Demetrio. Those were REAL tears.
"When treating those stab wounds, did you ever use leaf therapy like Dr. Nanci, Medicine Woman?"
No, but I'm sure that those patients would have all preferred those leaves to the temporary colostomies that they all required for their recoveries. Imagine what a distraction that would be for our maniac, Martín. Maybe it'd make vengeance less of a priority.
LoriLoo,
How good to see you here.
"Have you ever seen her as a good girl...?"
Well, yes, as Matilde (complete with headband) in CI,
although I think that I was initially the only one to identify her as such for quite a long time and she never quite caught on as a favorite for many of the ladies on the Patio.
Carlos
1.He (marty) is back in a** mode. As if he ever left it.
2.He dosen't have to live between love and hate. Get a clue stupid.
3. Manny goes to the clink Yahoo!!!!!!
4.Granpee cres is the biggest hypocrite in a hat.
5. If I didn't know What a little bitch she (virginia) is I'd feel something for her. But she had to much fun lying on ronny. I doubt this will change her. Shes going to have her hands full keeping creepy claudia away from Emi.
6.yes padre jaun knows the truth. Isn't there any priest that can stand up for whats right? Him telling veronica might save her life. She could be so into crazy marty, that a broken heart could do her in. And padre jaun could have stopped it and he didn't. I think God is a forgiving God, but I don't know about the catholic churuh on this tn.
Tofie- He could have her seperate pencils by color hahahahaha, thats funny. She brought it on herself, they laughed at her too. She did a good job of pretending to be sick. "Her poor weak heart". Boohoo.
Cave jail. Hahahaha, He can count rocks while he's there.
The comments (including yours) really ARE wonderful, aren't they? Thanks for stopping by. I think this is the first time we've watched a novela together.
Mauricio,
So glad you liked the recap. It was kind of a cool episode to write about and it was so satisfying to see Manuel decked and then locked up. He has always struck me as a coward, so I'm not surprised that without his knife, he seemed helpless. You're a little easier on Pablo than some of us. That's ok – the guy needs all the friends he can get!
Nina,
I'm curious to see how the padre dances around Veronica's direct question. He can't lie, but if he says, "That's a secret of the confessional," he would be confirming what she suspects although she would still have no idea WHY Marty feels as he does.
I think you meant CME - Matilde was the kitchen help in love with Juan Soler - a mean girl that redeemed herself. And she wore her headband around her forehead.
Novela,
I've read you often but try my best to watch only one TN at a time, otherwise I'd be in front of the TV for 4 hours each night. I'm failing miserably at the moment as I'm very much into this one, and La Sombra.
Nina,
Your mention of the Cave Jail is great but are we to presume that Manual can indeed count?
IE : few painters find side work as rodeo cowboys.
"I wondered if she [Ginny] was feeling betrayed and degraded, or it was a hint of a smile of satisfaction knowing how completely she had fooled them all"
Maybe. I had the impression that Ginny was genuinely hurt by what she overheard.
As for calling Pablo a "girly artist," no te preocupes. I think SNL desensitized all of us with Hans & Franz and "the girly man" routine. :D
LoriLoo,
Re counting rocks in the Cave Jail, "..are we to presume that Manual can indeed count?"
Yeah, maybe not. Hahahaha.
Of course you're correct that I was referring to Matilde in CME (Too bad that she wasn't in CI, it wouldn't have hurt). Her initial attitude toward Renata was very similar to the way that Nanci regards Verónica.
In regard to some of the later comments yesterday. Put me down as viewing Ana Perla's little mole as a beauty mark and not some sort of ugly flaw.
Carlos
Dress skimpily and carry a big machete.
Carlos
So. Sabre, knife, machete... is that a THEME I see lumbering in the middle distance?
Waaaah, that last comment - "lumbering in the middle distance...." hilarious.
Well we haven't seen any of Manuel's body parts floating down the river either...Hmmm
Funny how that works. :-)
I am always happy to see you here, whatever the hour. No doctor's notes or excuses from one's mother are ever required on The Patio.
That's a little bit of pressure you're dealing with, isn't it? Wishing you strength, patience and some good laughs to carry you through.
Blow the lid off of these nasty lying psychopaths, cause they seem to be gettin away with being evil. Smug bastasds.
Great comments all around today. The one thing I found interesting is how AnaPerla pleaded for the cops not to take her brother away. QTH!!! Did she hear what he did? I know he's her brother, but she also knows how violent he is and should not doubt what he is being accused of. Maybe she acted that way to look good in front of Grandpa Cre? Who knows, I just found it a bit weird.
Hasta pronto
Then we are given these pitious scenes where Crazyasshole is Soooo tormented because he luuuurves her but must keep his 'unbreakable vow'. We all know how those unbreakable vows work out don't we Grrrreta?
Now Crazydouchebag must spread himself a bit thin revenging on Vero and Manual Labor and possibly Grampa Perv too.
Of course Nanciyaga and his other paid worshipers dutifully obey his every command.
Old Father Juan wants to tell Vero so bad, but says he is forbid unless he sees she is in grave danger. I KNEW IT...There is a "break clause" in the unbreakable vow in case of eminent death or severe injury. The man upstairs is pretty darn clever on these vow thingys.
So as long as Crazy Boy is helpless as a newborn he is only a verbal threat to planet earth. I suppose a lesser chick would just stop feeding him.
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