Tuesday, September 15, 2015
Lo Imperdonable #85 Mon 9/14/15 Go reconfigure!
The place sometimes seemed n-less, and so did the story. |
Oh yeah? Well I'll button my shirt when you lose the plaid, Botel. |
We stopped for a ... hiccup... a... hiccup ... little ... pick-me-up. Oh I crack myself up sometimes! |
It's only pleather, I swear! I'll even show you my PETA card! |
Don't even think about cutting into the line, sister! |
Did you hear the one about the painter and the miner's daughter? |
Hmmm...did I remember to turn off the stove? |
Why? Because it feels so good when I stop. |
Wanna buy a t-shirt, cutie? |
You talkin' to me? |
He's nibbling at the bait... don't scare him off... don't rush him... |
I want to see my lawyer... and my agent! |
No, no, no! It's in D major! Now start again! |
Don't move, okay? I don't want to mess up again. |
He's in the zone now! |
You've been a very bad little girl, RayRay! |
I'm gonna be a rock star, ma! |
Really? I usually go to the Wednesday evening Weight Watchers meeting! |
A rose! The dude gave me a rose! |
Aww! He looks like an angel when he's asleep! |
Labels: imperdonable
Vero's red jumpsuit is a fashion hit, but it seems like past time for her to change clothes. Ay, the drama, the drama! And Marty curled up like a faithful watchdog.
Is it me or are the writers playing with us? How many times has someone almost killed Manny and then been stopped? They know we all want him dead so they keep setting us up! Now they've thrown OG into it too! Will he or won't he die? lol
Do we know how many episodes are in this TN?
I think it is time for Joaquin to go get his family. I'm sure he could get a job working Marty's mine.
I wish Emi would go back to ME. I want to see him and Nanci hook up again!
La Paloma,
"Vero's red jumpsuit is a fashion hit, but it seems like past time for her to change clothes."
I know, right? I guess they've just slowed down time and spread a single day over a few episodes, but from the Patio, it certainly feels as if those clothes must be pretty ripe by now. :-)
Carvivlie,
"Is it me or are the writers playing with us? How many times has someone almost killed Manny and then been stopped? They know we all want him dead so they keep setting us up! Now they've thrown OG into it too! Will he or won't he die?"
hahaha! Well I think they're playing with us and probably having a blast themselves.
I agree that it's time for Joaquín to get his family back (and stop that hussy Gaby in her tracks). I also look forward to seeing Emi, Nanciyaga and the snails.
No idea about episodes. Maybe someone else knows?
Loved your opening: If Ireri's father hadn't already died, she would have killed him with her overacting. Couldn't agree more.
The screen caps were great. My favorites:
"Don't even think about cutting into the line, sister! (Magda and Martin to Virginia)
"No, no, no! It's in D major!" (Old Goat)
"A rose. The dude gave me a rose." (Martin)
Loved all references to "Die, Old Goat, Die!" Manny needs to die with him, and if Raymunda keeps it up, I'll be wishing that for her too. Right now, I just wish they'd send her to a psychiatric facility where maybe she could develop some sense of integrity towards herself and the women in her household. I continue to love Polo's defense of Ana Perla.
Looking forward to Emi, Nanciyaga, and the snails too!
At this point I'm cheering for Gaby to sweep Joaquin off his feet and away from Raymunda. If Raymunda doesn't put a stop to her 2nd Family (OG and Manny) and doesn't put her 1st Family first (Joaquin, Blanquita, Polo and even AP as a niece who DOES need serious help!) then I'm all for a Divorcio in the Green Hell. No one deserves to be undermined and voted against in a good marriage.
I'm going to assume that even being a Nana that Matilde does know how to read and write. Maybe not today maybe not tomorrow but won't SOMEONE hand her a pen and paper so she can at least try to explain how she feels AND how she fell? Bueller???
I agree with the consensus the red jumpsuit is spot on but V has not changed since the Wedding! Get a change of clothes and some Secret girl!
"...if Raymunda keeps it up, I'll be wishing that for her too. Right now, I just wish they'd send her to a psychiatric facility where maybe she could develop some sense of integrity towards herself and the women in her household."
yeah, Raymunda is just a bundle of self-loathing, isn't she? It's too bad she didn't hear what Magdalena said yesterday about the harm women do to their kids by allowing themselves to be abused. In this case, it's her father, not her husband, who's the abuser. And the Old Goat was full of misogynist rants last night!
Hi JackieV!
"I'm all for a Divorcio in the Green Hell. No one deserves to be undermined and voted against in a good marriage."
Great point. The only thing that keeps me from signing on is that we've seen how much these people seem to love each other and their children. Raymunda needs to wake up. I can't quite give Gaby a free pass on this one. :-)
"I'm going to assume that even being a Nana that Matilde does know how to read and write. Maybe not today maybe not tomorrow but won't SOMEONE hand her a pen and paper so she can at least try to explain how she feels AND how she fell?"
I get the impression that Mati is an educated woman. Let's hope she lives long enough to get to the pen and paper stage. Unfortunately, lots of people get bumped off in telenovela hospitals!
Thanks so much to both of you for stopping by! Enjoyed your comments.
The screen shots and captions were magnificent. Here are more of my favorite lines:
"They will get through this together, she tells the tiny snake."
"Suddenly the Old Goat gasps and clutches his heart. Hope spreads like wildfire all around the Patio. [Die, Old Goat! Die!]"
If I keep going I will end up copying your entire recap! Thanks again, now back to work. (:-(
And, like Mari, my favorite screen cap was the "Don't dare ditch in line, sister! Perfect for those iron-hard faces.
Always enjoy the fight choreography in this one, and must say Blanquita's vault and flip into the chair after Manual started to thrash her was gold medal worthy.
And admit, word nerd that I am, that I was hoping you'd give us "Mujer sin varón, ojál sin botón." Traditional. Pithy. Colorful. Folklorique...... Sexist. Well, you can't have everything.
Agree with NovelaMaven, that our formerly rational Pablo-Mama has deteriorated into dysfunctional. As have Raymunda and Don Cresencio. Alas, under stress, most of us do. Would that people would rise nobly to greater heights of wisdom and understanding in these moments, but in my experience, it's quite the opposite.
As you said, Oh well....
Thanks for another splendid recap. I do admit taking a sly pleasure in Virginia's little grins of glee, after she's slipped out of one more noose. But it won't last forever! Justice still reigns in telenovelas.
I have to admit too I enjoy Virginia's side grins...knowing that in the end she'll get at least as good as she gives, and probably a lot more.
Okay, Mari. It's official. We're alma gemelas. I'm down with that. And we'll sneak over to Carlos' table and make a toast or two with whatever he's serving.
Have a good day everybody. It's glorious here. Which is NOT typical Ohio weather, I can tell you.
I have to wonder whether Raymunda would even be affected by what Magdalena said about women who allow themselves to be abused. My impression is that she's got a sick dependency on her father and doesn't do anything to try to reign in Manny's behavior either. Que lastima!
"My impression [of Raymunda] is that she's got a sick dependency on her father and doesn't do anything to try to reign in Manny's behavior either. Que lastima!"
True. I'd add that she seems like a weak person. She needs Joaquín's physical presence to help her overcome her own worst instincts and avoid being completely manipulated by her father. Maybe it's time for her to build some moral muscles of her own!
EW..I do not want to think about Ginny's panties..bunched or otherwise. #shudderrrr
About that scene with CrazyBeatenup Marty sleeping on the floor ...Jamie did that outside Claire's inn room in Outlander...and sooo verra much sexier. I get verra tired of Marty's hangdog expression....man up.
JudyB,
"Always enjoy the fight choreography in this one, and must say Blanquita's vault and flip into the chair after Manual started to thrash her was gold medal worthy."
Yup! Glad you pointed it out! The fights on these things are more West Side Story than say, gritty police procedural. (And maybe in real life, the actor who plays Manuel is a prince among men, devoted to the dance.
And I share your and Mari's pleasure in Virginia's hammy villainy. That's one of the Mejía traits I adore. There is always an element of comedy lurking under the exaggerated malice. At the same time, there's a raw emotionality that sucker-punches you when you least expect it.
So you liked my howler, huh? You know, your comment makes me think of Cap'n Sharkbait – it's the kind of thing she would have hooted at, I believe.
Muchas gracias, amiga!
"I get verra tired of Marty's hangdog expression....man up. "
I can see that. For some reason, I'm getting kind of fond of Marty these days. I rather like the melancholic CrazyMarty "curled up like a faithful watchdog," as La Paloma so aptly expressed it. :-)
Have cc3 on my tv, I wish I did. My brother has it on his, and hes into the tns now. He just didn't know how to get the caption, I
Did and now he watches. Hes got cc3, and I
Got yall, yaaaay!!!! God bless the recapers.
Now, about last nite. I don't know about yall,
but I am sick and tired of being sick and tired of seeing the old goat and Manny physically abused these women in this family and when the hell are they going to get sick of it? this is TV, in real life manny would be in critical care in the hospital and the old goat would be dead. And Raymunda what the hell is her problem why she can't seem to get herself away from her stupid dad and cling to her husband and her children and act like a mother should act, and defend her children from this abuse? This ain't even funny. and who the hell put him in charge of the family I don't care what the customs are this is wrong. The way manny grabbed blanca and
Threw her on the seat and then slapped ana.
and what the hell is wrong with Julio, why Is he letting these men abuse these women like this? hes claiming to love one of them and she's pregnant. they don't even care if shes pregnant they want to kill the baby anyway.
Jaoquin need to get on a boat and get his but to Mexico City before those fools kill his children. Causes his sorry wife ain't know
Help at all.
I think this is so cute: I don't know if you meant it that way:
Matilda doses
Vero doses
Marty wallows In despair.
Vero kneels and prays. ← ← ←
She dozes in the chair. ↑
A bright spot in this episode.↑
Loved your screen shots. No, No, No. It's in D major! Now start again.
Did I forget to turn off the stove?
In fact Novela, there were so many great screen shots, if I mentioned them all it would take up the whole page.
I wish to join the chorus of Die Old Goat Die.
I thought that V-snake would start working on bringing Dr. Carlos some more patients, but I guess that I am a little over anxious. She bound to start up her activities soon though.
Looks like Mati may have gotten a reprieve even though her condition is bad. I mean that if Mati can't talk, V-snake might feel safe enough to let her be. Dr. F just might be the viper's first victim.
Ireri's overacting at her father's death. Yes I do admit that that was quite a scene but when we are presented with scenes like that, isn't it the fault of the director? The director probably told her to really pour it on don't you think?
I have been thinking about that missing "n" in the hospital sign. Has anyone noticed that there might be two sign's. One above the front entrance and another above the rear entrance? Maybe that is why sometimes we see the "n" and at other times we don't.
I almost forgot---I kept thinking that the new guy Arturo would come to Pablo's defense last night but it didn't happen. Did anyone else have the same thought?
I would like to see Emi go back to Mina Escondita and reunite with Nanciyaga. Don't know why but I enjoyed those earlier scenes.
Can't wait foe tonight---must see tv.
the gringo
It is so sad to see Martin no being able to comfort Vero. I loved the scene so much at the end. A very nice gesture from Vero and Martin. I hope Vero forgives him soon and not at the end of the TN. Martin does love her but he brought this on himself.
Thanks again.
the gringo
The thing that affected me the most in last night's episode was the OG and Manny beating up on Blanca and AP. I really think putting that into the script is totally unnecessary and shocking. Is that how men still treat women in Mexico? Of course, because that's how men treat women all over the world. Fortunately, they are in the minority, but why include it in a TN? I've seen too many instances of it in TNs. A one-time incident to make an abuse point in the story is one thing, but why over and over? I find it extremely offensive.
I do agree with Gringo, let Gaby form a nice relationship with Joaquin. He's put up with enough from Raymunda and OG. No one should have their father-in-law in the middle of their marriage.
Yes, Marty is suffering and I am glad. It's about time. His treatment of Veronica is unforgivable - where were his brain cells? That he couldn't put two (V-necklaces) together?
Missed Virginia last night, but sure she will emerge very soon in a big way:) Hope that AP marries Julio and that Manny falls on his knife and the OG dies of a heart attack at the sight of it. AP will need help and protection throughout and Julio is just the man for the job. And he is muy guapo!
I'm sure that Mati can read and write, wouldn't she have to as a Nanna? Wouldn't she have read books to Veronica and Virginia? Didn't she read one of Virginia's letters?
Gale
My favorite line: "Hope spreads like wildfire all around the Patio. [Die, Old Goat! Die!]..." Can we get a chorus started of "Die, Manny! Die!" I laughed when Pablo kicked him, hoped the bullet wound opened up!
Thanks again for this enjoyable recap NovelaMaven!
Thanks for stopping by. I always enjoy your comments so it seems only fair that my recap is helping you enjoy the show a little more.
"this is TV, in real life manny would be in critical care in the hospital and the old goat would be dead."
Oh yeah. It's amazing that those two fools just keep going like a couple of evil aguardiente-fueled Energizer bunnies!
Wow Gringo, I'm honored. And rest assured, there will always be a place for you in the chorus of Die Old Goat Die!
You know, I've often wondered how much directorial help these actors really get. Sometimes it seems like they're on their own and have to depend on their own experience and knowledge.
"I almost forgot---I kept thinking that the new guy Arturo would come to Pablo's defense last night but it didn't happen. Did anyone else have the same thought?"
yup, I thought the same thing. I thought Arturo was still across the street and would come running when the trouble started. (Maybe he WAS running – in the opposite direction!)
You're very welcome, Duchess! I agree that the last scene with Marty and Vero was very sweet. It's clear that she still has strong feelings for him, but I'm not sure she's ready to let him off the hook yet. I guess we'll have to see what happens tonight. :-)
Oh JudyB, you know how pleased I am when someone notices one of my silly jokes. Thank you! (I see no one has mentioned the title. Oh well, you can't have it all! [snort])
Hi Gale!
My pleasure! You're right about the physical (and verbal and emotional) abuse. It CAN be hard to watch. I suppose the point is that these guys are monsters and sooner or later, will get what they deserve. Actually, I take that back. Manny is a monster and beyond redemption. The Old Goat sometimes seems like a decent human being. He may yet be redeemed.
You're also right – we did see Mati reading one of Vero's letters.
I'm so glad you decided to come out from lurkerdom and join us here on the Patio of Lowered Expectations. Thanks so much for your kind words. It's always fun to know someone is enjoying our recaps.
"I guess the writers really want us to dislike [Raymunda] so we don't feel bad when the schoolmarm steals her husband. I;m really disappointed by that story line though, it's unnecessary and I was hopeful the teacher was going to be a love interest for poor Julio."
I feel that way too. I saw the story line building but kept hoping the writers wouldn't go there (which I have found is almost always a predictor that they will!)
Hope to see you around here again!
I noticed that too last night, that the Hospital Center signs were different, and I thought that's probably why sometimes there's a missing "n".
Well said. Virginia's a dark star, but a star nonetheless. Very talented actress.
NovelaMaven -
The Patio of Lowered Expectations...hilarious.
Lily -
Glad you've joined us! I agree that the writers are probably doing their best to make Raymunda look bad to make room for a new love in Joaquin's life....and they're going a great job of it.
A change of clothes. Yall I know he done her
Wrong but he is being so remorseful and so
Sweet to her. I'm sorry emi but you need to
Back off. Emi belongs with the lady with the
Snails, they make a good pair.
The film cuts are funny novella, a rose, dude
Gave me a rose."
Ok lets see what tonite brings us.
I am extremely late, but had to say thank you for this awesome recap. I don't know how you do it.
I could not believe that Gramps and Manny were at it AGAIN last night. And Reymunda too. What the heck is their problem. I hated seeing it, but I was not surprised to see Manny push Blanquita and slap AP. But the fact that Reymunda was OK with it really angered me. In my eyes that makes her a bad mother. How could she let that happen right in front of her. Grrr!
Mauricio,
I don't know if you will read this, but I had to thank you for Friday's recap. Sorry I did not get a chance to tell you til today. I was gone since Friday, up until Sunday night. By that time I was exhausted. But I wanted to thank you because your recaps are always excellent.
Hasta Pronto.
"I was not surprised to see Manny push Blanquita and slap AP. But the fact that Reymunda was OK with it really angered me. In my eyes that makes her a bad mother."
It's true, under the undiluted influence of the Old Goat and Manny, Raymunda is letting the worst part of her nature guide her behavior. She WAS a bad mother last night. She hasn't always been like this. (Maybe in her case, the Old Goat was right: Mujer sin varón, ojal sin botón. Joaquín is her moral compass.)
"That sounds a little dysfunctional, Lucía. And you were my token sane person."
Too funny.
This is a close second:
"She admits he can be a little bossy..."
Yes, but perhaps unlike some, even with his recent violence toward women I think that he's salvageable. It'll take some doin', however.
It thrills me to see that Virginia is getting the recognition that she deserves here on the Patio. I think everyone (even the gringo) understand why I admire her so much.
Claudia and Ramón? Why not?
Carlos
Crazy. She keep this up she'll give him a good reason to cheat. don't condone the cheating, but she pushin It with her very bad mothering skills. Blanca is her daughter, no
Way I'd allow someone to treat my child the
Way manny did. And at the command of
That, I could call him something else but I'm a civilized person so I just let it go to the old goat.
I loved "Die, Old Goat! Die!" -- and I was cheering right along with you and everyone else on The Patio.
Pablo kicking Manny in the colon. I loved it. Take that, Manny!
Old Goat, Manny, & Raymunda .. no words.
Glad that Mati is ok.
I loved Joaquin standing up to Grandpa Goat. Now that he's been fired he should go and work for La Morenita.
Marty should listen to Vero and get his face cured. And Vero does need a change of clothes as does Marty.
Univision either skipped an episode or edited two together because episode 85 shown on September 14 in the US was number 86 in Mexico.
- J
Yes, Virginia is finally getting her props around here.
The problem with Ramón and Claudia is that the guy is dead broke. On the other hand, perhaps we have a new Claudia, one who is willing to give up the millionaire Frenchie because she doesn't love him. Could THIS Claudia fall for Ramón/Jamón? Nah.
Mauricio, you're very welcome. And thank you for mentioning the title. :-)
"Pablo kicking Manny in the colon. I loved it. Take that, Manny!"
I know, right? I wanted the old surgical incision to pop right open then and there. (I could be wrong, but I don't think this is doing great things for our moral development.)
J, thanks for answering Carvivlie's question about the probable number of episodes.
The missing "N" has always caught my eye and to have it woven in to the recap with such wit made me smile. I too am enjoying Grettel's devious portrayal, although I have to say the shrill when she starts crying can be like nails on a chalkboard for me.
I'm glad to see others are as bothered by the physical abuse that Blanquita and Ana Perla are being subjected to. It's awful and I don't see how a grandfather who claims to love his grandchildren can behave that way. He doesn't deserve the love or respect that his granddaughters have given him. I'm just waiting for the day when all the women in that house finally tell him what a controlling overbearing and abusive a-hole he really is, right before they turn and leave! THEN he can die...alone.
I want Manny to suffer a horrible and agonizing death. Perhaps buried alive in one of the mines he dreams of being his one day. As he's dying, gasping for air he would be haunted by all of his sins and abuse as he screams and struggles for air.
Thanks so much for the kind words. It's great to know you found your way to this little community – We're definitely your people! See you again soon, I hope.
I'm pretty sure Manny will have a horrible end. It's hard to say what will (or even what should) happen to Grandpa Goat. I guess we'll just have to keep watching if we want to find out. :-)
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