Wednesday, December 16, 2015
Yo No Creo En Los Hombres #108 Tuesday 12/15/15: The Battle For Baby Begins
[I must do this from memory again.]
• Jenny and Daniel both finish their stay at the drunk rehab center Jenny reclaims the faux engagement ring from Doris that she at first rejected. She swears to Dor and Orlando that she’ll never forgive Maria Dolores; DannyBoy returns home and Urrrrsula and he prepare emotionally for the court battle.
• Maria Dolores spends months being locked away in her dark, dank cell trying to keep her sanity, keeping mum to Esperanza and Max during their visits as she’s been threatened to do so. They remain clueless to all the inner machinations as Max loses every legal battle trying to get her to trial.
• Ivana hires on Isela as a paralegal in her legal department. Gerry and Tía Susanna suspect Ivaca of ulterior baby-buying/stealing motives which she denies.
• Isela and Max grouse with each other over the lack of moral high-ground when it comes to Ise and her forthcoming baby and what role Claudio will or will not play in maintenance of Clod, Jr.
• Orlando and Doris moan and groan over the lack of business? Funding? MD’s ingenious designing? (I think) and the idea to sell to the inmates of the prison for now. Clara admits to the two of them that the cupcake business is all hers now and she’s done with it, thanks to Leo leaving her high and dry. Doris asks her to invest in MD Designs R Us, but Clara sneers at the idea. “--Who in their right mind would invest in a business that tries selling clothes to women who have to wait for their impoverished families to bring them pesos every visit? Hmmmmm??? No thanks!” And it seems Clara’s right cuz La Abuela threatens anyone who buys a bit of clothing from her through Nayelli or anybody else.
• Ise and MD grow big bellies as Max's mama gets weaker and sicker.
• The guards beat up one of La Abuela’s enforcers and makes all the inmates kick her. She warns that anyone who tries messing with Maria Dolores will suffer the same fate.
• Arango calls Grrrsula to tell her that he’ll be needing physical therapy after being shot in the leg and losing bone and muscle where the bullet was dug out of him. She tells him to go take a flying leap cuz it was his stupid choice to stick around after she’d fired him and kicked him out. Arango plans his revenge.
• Corina finally is freed, thanks to Max. Adrian hires her as a receptionist. She takes a trip over to Nayelli’s husband’s apartment and learns from the woman who answers that she’s Nay’s hubby’s wife and what’s more, she married the guy two years ago. Ruh-roh!
• Arango comes back with a cane and leg brace, demanding Grrrsula take him back or he’ll spill the beans about Hector and Julian’s death, i.e., that DannyBoy was the shooter in both instances. Jacinto whines and moans that he is now her “right hand man”. Grrrsula finally gives in to Arango a makes a place for him as her administrator.
• MD enjoys another visitor’s day until she learns that Daniel has begun his custody battle.
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Jardinera you did great from memory and thank you bunches.
MD did a masterful job feigning surprise on the revelation Dan wants her baby, Dan himself told her months ago.
Espy didn't look happy MD was glad, no overjoyed, to see Clara.
I'm really glad Corina has a job with Adrian and she wants to help Nayelli see her kids but I wanted her to tell Max what was going on. We already knew Nyelli's husband threw her under the bus so no surprise here but how will this impact our story?
"Who in their right mind would invest in a business that tries selling clothes to women who have to wait for their impoverished families to bring them pesos every visit?" We know who the smart sister is
I got really confused during the snarl fest between Max and Isela. Ok, Max helped her because the child and he believes Claudio should be responsible because he is the father and Isela should accept the help but she refuses. Her retort had something to do with the fact Max is not the father, Dan is, and neither MD or Max wants his help. Do I have that right?
So, the divorce is final between Dan and Ivana?
MD did a masterful job feigning surprise on the revelation Dan wants her baby, Dan himself told her months ago.
Espy didn't look happy MD was glad, no overjoyed, to see Clara.
I'm really glad Corina has a job with Adrian and she wants to help Nayelli see her kids but I wanted her to tell Max what was going on. We already knew Nyelli's husband threw her under the bus so no surprise here but how will this impact our story?
"Who in their right mind would invest in a business that tries selling clothes to women who have to wait for their impoverished families to bring them pesos every visit?" We know who the smart sister is
I got really confused during the snarl fest between Max and Isela. Ok, Max helped her because the child and he believes Claudio should be responsible because he is the father and Isela should accept the help but she refuses. Her retort had something to do with the fact Max is not the father, Dan is, and neither MD or Max wants his help. Do I have that right?
So, the divorce is final between Dan and Ivana?
Thanks so much, Jardinera! I didn't get to watch last night, so this was VERY helpful. We've had our time jump then. How has MD kept her sanity with all these months of solitary? I really hope Corina spills the beans to Max. This is just so horrible.
Gracias, Jardinera.
Yes, I think Ivana's divorce is final. This probably takes away any direct legal right to MD's baby (assuming Danny-Boy is the sperm donor). This obviously means that there will have to be a kidnapping for Mama Bear to get her hands on it.
Which would make it great if the baby is ultimately proven to be Max's.
That Ivana didn't go to the police about what really happened is criminal. That Max didn't hound her to do it is a writing fail.
More later.
Yes, I think Ivana's divorce is final. This probably takes away any direct legal right to MD's baby (assuming Danny-Boy is the sperm donor). This obviously means that there will have to be a kidnapping for Mama Bear to get her hands on it.
Which would make it great if the baby is ultimately proven to be Max's.
That Ivana didn't go to the police about what really happened is criminal. That Max didn't hound her to do it is a writing fail.
More later.
Thanks Jardinera, what a gruesome episode. Other than Corina getting freed, the rest was a real downer.
That scene with Clara, Esperanza and Max waiting in line was fantastic. This show continues to deliver. What a sad situation those three are in.
Vivi, I left you a comment on the previous recap.
That scene with Clara, Esperanza and Max waiting in line was fantastic. This show continues to deliver. What a sad situation those three are in.
Vivi, I left you a comment on the previous recap.
So, Ursula's earlier plan was for the divorce to proceed because Dan had signed a prenup, gain custody of the child, Dan and Ivana remarry without prenup and take Ivana to the cleaners. Now Ursula believes Ivana will just buy the child when she sees it and tell everyone she was pregnant the whole time?
Max sure ain't the wiz attorney I thought he was
Max sure ain't the wiz attorney I thought he was
Cathyx- Just saw it. No worries. I'll just schedule a discussion post to automatically go up tonight.
Mama Bear tried selling the baby to Ivana for one half of her fortune. I don't know that this plan would work now because Ivana knows more about them than she did before. She still went through with the divorce.
She could be planning to murder Danny-Boy and continue to control the fortune because the baby can't. However, both Danny-Boy and Arango are looking to avenge themselves. This will be interesting because they are likely to all take each other down.
She could be planning to murder Danny-Boy and continue to control the fortune because the baby can't. However, both Danny-Boy and Arango are looking to avenge themselves. This will be interesting because they are likely to all take each other down.
Seems like Ursula shouldn't take her eye off of Arango. The Molotov cocktail of betrayal is being mixed very thoroughly among the villains, and it will surely explode.
I don't think it's fair to say Max isn't a super wiz attorney because critical information is being kept from him; he's going into this blind.
1) Maria Dolores is not telling him what's happening (again). Although this time she has a valid reason for not telling him (being threatened by Abuela/Montijo/Warden) if she WASN'T being threatened she wouldn't have told Max anyway.
2) Claudio is behind the scenes pulling favors to make sure Maria Dolores remains behind bars indefinitely. He is probably 2 steps ahead of Max at every turn. His judicial buddies are probably informing him of every legal move Max makes so he can stymie Max.
3) I think Nayeli & Corina were threatened NOT to tell Max anything either.
Now that Corina is out of jail, she needs to tell Max what's going on with MD. I'm not sure if she knows about the rumor that Bustamante is behind keeping MD locked up but if she knows, she needs to tell him.
We don't know if Max has tried to talk to Ivana during the time elapse. He may have and she may have denied everything. Max can't really force Ivana to talk.
We also don't know what Claudio has been up to during the time elapse. We saw what almost all the characters have been doing EXCEPT him. We know Alma is getting weaker & Leo has not seen Clara during this time. We know Honoria is still in Julian's room & Josefa/Isela are apart. Clara has grown very bitter. Even though she's being very bratty, I'm still not liking how when Maria Dolores does wrong, Esperanza is all "poor hija" but when Clara does wrong she needs to be sent to her room.
And how many times has Esperanza been to see Maria Dolores during the time elapse? Because Clara said (while waiting in line) that Esperanza told her that she could come with her to visit Maria Dolores the next time Esperanza visits MD. (when Esperanza tried to send her away). I wonder if Esperanza has been visiting Maria Dolores without telling Clara?
1) Maria Dolores is not telling him what's happening (again). Although this time she has a valid reason for not telling him (being threatened by Abuela/Montijo/Warden) if she WASN'T being threatened she wouldn't have told Max anyway.
2) Claudio is behind the scenes pulling favors to make sure Maria Dolores remains behind bars indefinitely. He is probably 2 steps ahead of Max at every turn. His judicial buddies are probably informing him of every legal move Max makes so he can stymie Max.
3) I think Nayeli & Corina were threatened NOT to tell Max anything either.
Now that Corina is out of jail, she needs to tell Max what's going on with MD. I'm not sure if she knows about the rumor that Bustamante is behind keeping MD locked up but if she knows, she needs to tell him.
We don't know if Max has tried to talk to Ivana during the time elapse. He may have and she may have denied everything. Max can't really force Ivana to talk.
We also don't know what Claudio has been up to during the time elapse. We saw what almost all the characters have been doing EXCEPT him. We know Alma is getting weaker & Leo has not seen Clara during this time. We know Honoria is still in Julian's room & Josefa/Isela are apart. Clara has grown very bitter. Even though she's being very bratty, I'm still not liking how when Maria Dolores does wrong, Esperanza is all "poor hija" but when Clara does wrong she needs to be sent to her room.
And how many times has Esperanza been to see Maria Dolores during the time elapse? Because Clara said (while waiting in line) that Esperanza told her that she could come with her to visit Maria Dolores the next time Esperanza visits MD. (when Esperanza tried to send her away). I wonder if Esperanza has been visiting Maria Dolores without telling Clara?
Permalink posted by 
: Wednesday, December 16, 2015 at 1:07:00 PM EST
: Wednesday, December 16, 2015 at 1:07:00 PM EST
So finally we have the time jump, and it was done really good. We were able to see a little bit of what each character was up too.
With Max's problem in freeing MD, she'll definely lose what little trust she has in him. IMHO, she'll turn to Danny-boy and his scheme to get her out. For some reason, I just don't think she is over her first love yet. She will break Max's heart as some of you said earlier.
I do think she is protecting herself by not telling Max anything about the jail conditions, she has learned it is more important to follow orders than cry to Max who wouldn't be able to do anything because of Claudio's shenanigans.
Why Claudio, why??
Most unsettling part of the novela, IMO.
With Max's problem in freeing MD, she'll definely lose what little trust she has in him. IMHO, she'll turn to Danny-boy and his scheme to get her out. For some reason, I just don't think she is over her first love yet. She will break Max's heart as some of you said earlier.
I do think she is protecting herself by not telling Max anything about the jail conditions, she has learned it is more important to follow orders than cry to Max who wouldn't be able to do anything because of Claudio's shenanigans.
Why Claudio, why??
Most unsettling part of the novela, IMO.
Can we also have Isela beaten too (after she gives birth, of course)? I was against Leo's outburst at going after her, but I may have been wrong about that. When Max and Isela were talking about her baby and her wanting Clod out of the picture, Max let her know that he would step up (financially at least) to take care of it. He had that right or something. Her response was to say, well if he has the right to his child then why shouldn't Daniel have a right to his child with MD? Because Clod, jerk as he is, isn't a rapist you stupid little bitch! How dare she compare her situation with Clod to MD's with Daniel? If we didn't know the truth she might have a point. But we know what Daniel is like and so does she.
Kelly
Kelly
Permalink posted by : Wednesday, December 16, 2015 at 3:15:00 PM EST
: Wednesday, December 16, 2015 at 3:15:00 PM EST
Oops. Sorry about the language. She's just so annoying. Can't decide if the baby would be better of with her or if Ivana should adopt it. Poor baby just can't win. At least with Ivana, it would have Gerry and he's still normal.
Kelly
Kelly
Permalink posted by : Wednesday, December 16, 2015 at 3:16:00 PM EST
: Wednesday, December 16, 2015 at 3:16:00 PM EST
Kelly- Wow! Did Isela really have the nerve to say that? I didn't even see it, and I want to slap her for that.
Max is supposed to have eyes in the back of his head, a hounds nose for uncovering the truth and superhuman strength. Well, he's been able to up till now but since Julian died no one will tell the guy anything so when punching blind you don't hit anything. I expect more of the guy and he's failed me and I agree Victoria the field is ripe for destroying Max's credibility thanks to his daddy, the warden, Abuela and MD's fear.
Was MD mentioning the baby responding to Max's voice her delusion, stomped out when reminded Dan will attempt to take his child, or a baby in the womb responding to his fathers voice?
I thought Espy continued to visit MD and we saw it in montage, Espy didn't want Clara there fearing she wouldn't maintain the charade. Espy tried to run Clara off last night and thankfully Clara stayed because MD sure was glad to see her. I don't like Espy at all, her proclivity for MD (even before MD was in jail) will leave a scar on Clara. Thankfully Clara doesn't resent MD because of it.
Was MD mentioning the baby responding to Max's voice her delusion, stomped out when reminded Dan will attempt to take his child, or a baby in the womb responding to his fathers voice?
I thought Espy continued to visit MD and we saw it in montage, Espy didn't want Clara there fearing she wouldn't maintain the charade. Espy tried to run Clara off last night and thankfully Clara stayed because MD sure was glad to see her. I don't like Espy at all, her proclivity for MD (even before MD was in jail) will leave a scar on Clara. Thankfully Clara doesn't resent MD because of it.
I'm still trying to determine why Claudio would want to keep MD in prison. He could have done it to protect her from Danny-Boy and his Mama Bear, but didn't do what that would take. He has also violated the most important request Alma made of him. It could be revenge for MD putting the screws to him and Isela, for her telling Max, for Clara telling Leo.
WTF???
Anyone else notice the junior Hosefa prisoner?
WTF???
Anyone else notice the junior Hosefa prisoner?
Thank you Kelly that was the exchange I inquired about and thought I heard right that she believed Dan has the right, not Max, to help MD's child. Isela plays pitiful waif until she angers then the truth erupts.
Let's see how Isela would feel about fathers' rights if her rapist daddy came out of the woodwork, wanting some love from his daughter/step-grandchild (Isela).
Claudio made Alma a promise after she shamed him for helping Ursula but wouldn't offer his help to Max to free MD, an innocent and woman Max loves.
I think Claudio did it, fearful Ursula would soil his professional reputation, the only thing he so far has been able to maintain.
I think Claudio did it, fearful Ursula would soil his professional reputation, the only thing he so far has been able to maintain.
@Victoria, I said at the very beginning of the pregnancy story that I believe MD would return to Dan if it means keeping her baby or saving it from danger. I am praying I am wrong but I think MD will accept Dan's deal. Thanks for the recappers without you I wouldn't be able to follow this story. I watched one episode to put names to faces and follow here.
Romy
Romy
Max definitely has a right to know that MD is being threatened by the Abuela and that the warden is keeping her in solitary under orders of the Santibanez. But with Clod working against him and taking away all his legal power, I don't think he could actually do anything to change it. He and MD have no proof of what Ursula and Dan are doing, and he's got no sway over the warden with the all powerful Clod basically backing her up and giving her carte blanche over MD for as long as she has her in her prison. No amount of money Max gives her is going to help her, because Abuela has put the order out that MD's money is unacceptable. Max should know because as MD's man and her lawyer, he should shoulder the burden of worry with MD. But he is pretty powerless here, and MD knows it.
Max needed to know about the threats months ago and there may have been something he could do or do differently but now it's too late. Knowledge is power and why our superman needed both arms. That is what has frustrated me the most. The one good guy is kept in the dark by the good girl while the bad guys know everything. I know that is TN 101 but damn.
UA--Thank you for yesterday. Didn't have time to comment, but your recap is brilliant, as usual. Nice of Stevey to drop in and give us one of her long comments.
Jardinera--Short and sweet, and to the point. Always a pleasure to read your recaps.
Just one thought to throw out. Ivana goes to work every day. I am aware that heavy women don't show their pregnancies until late, but wouldn't you think Ivana would start wearing a baby bump if she were serious about taking MD's baby (or Isela's the way she was looking at her)? I think she's keeping her options open for a Gerry-baby-daddy deal and for that she'd need a whole nine months or more. I also think the writers have been deliberately avoiding mentioning Ivana NOT going to give her statement. If she had--MD would probably have been closer to being released. I don't understand why Max's frustration with the delay didn't include that--Ivana's testimony. The writers may tell us later that she did, but it had no effect, since Claudio's request held more weight. Can't wait to see what happens next...jail delivery...
Jardinera--Short and sweet, and to the point. Always a pleasure to read your recaps.
Just one thought to throw out. Ivana goes to work every day. I am aware that heavy women don't show their pregnancies until late, but wouldn't you think Ivana would start wearing a baby bump if she were serious about taking MD's baby (or Isela's the way she was looking at her)? I think she's keeping her options open for a Gerry-baby-daddy deal and for that she'd need a whole nine months or more. I also think the writers have been deliberately avoiding mentioning Ivana NOT going to give her statement. If she had--MD would probably have been closer to being released. I don't understand why Max's frustration with the delay didn't include that--Ivana's testimony. The writers may tell us later that she did, but it had no effect, since Claudio's request held more weight. Can't wait to see what happens next...jail delivery...
If MD was stupid enough to go back to Danny-Boy she'd be dead to me. What I think, though, is that she will be delivered into the hands of that nest of vipers and they will take away the baby and try to kill her.
I think she'll take the deal under duress because she has no other options. Max will be on the outside looking in as usual when things could have been very different but Dan and Ursula have competing ideas for happily ever after. Dan wants the woman he loves and their child and Ursula wants cash.
Danny-Boy does not love MD. He really wants to eat her alive because he does not care that she does not want him. He raped her and never mind that she was unconscious at the time. She can never trust him no matter what. And now he's a drug addict. That opens him up to major relapses.
Let's also not forget Mama Bear. She is responsible for who he is and for her own daughter's death. A daughter-in-law is garbage to her.
Let's also not forget Mama Bear. She is responsible for who he is and for her own daughter's death. A daughter-in-law is garbage to her.
Anon207--"Because Clara said (while waiting in line) that Esperanza told her that she could come with her to visit Maria Dolores the next time Esperanza visits.." I think Clara was being sarcastic. Agree with Tofi that Espy has been trying to keep them apart for her own reasons--keep it on the high note, no depressing news for MD--but really not wanting Clara to let something slip that was not meant to. Poor MD is just hungry for ANY news she can ponder and think about to keep her sane in solitary.
Victoria--I'm with you and UA on keeping MD in prison. Why, Claudio? This is months of pre-trial detention. Surely he knows, at least second-hand, what prison is like in overcrowded conditions. Did he *want* MD to lose the baby? Or did he want to keep it safe? We've speculated here. Yeah, what is going to be?
Kelly & Vivi--In the Max-Isela convo, to be perfectly clear, Max told her *he,* meaning Clod would step up to financially support her baby. That was a powerful statement for Ise to make to him, though, as Kelly said, was not on the same level.
UA--I did notice the Mini-Hosefa. I also noticed the same filth on the floor of the cell in solitary for months on end and the dirty sweater--yet MD's hair always looks good on visiting day. Poor Esp & Doris, they don't know that MD doesn't get the bananas and oranges nor the other food they bring her.
Romy--Pray hard it doesn't happen, for Max's sake, but Dan looked pretty good post-rehab in his chest-fitting leather jacket and neatly trimmed beard. (Not good enough for us to swoon over, but...there's always MD.) I think that after the shooting, MD is not interested in giving Dan any favors. But, might she accept just to get out jail, if she's faced with losing the baby while still in prison and being convicted and sentenced to years? Of course with El Fin looming, it can't happen. Pray for that, too, Romy.
Vivi--Was it really on Santibanez orders that she's being kept in solitairy confinement? It's begging the question, I guess, but Ursula merely warned the warden that nothing should happen to MD during her pregnancy. The warden could have protected her from Abue by sending her to another facility--which she had considered.
Victoria--I'm with you and UA on keeping MD in prison. Why, Claudio? This is months of pre-trial detention. Surely he knows, at least second-hand, what prison is like in overcrowded conditions. Did he *want* MD to lose the baby? Or did he want to keep it safe? We've speculated here. Yeah, what is going to be?
Kelly & Vivi--In the Max-Isela convo, to be perfectly clear, Max told her *he,* meaning Clod would step up to financially support her baby. That was a powerful statement for Ise to make to him, though, as Kelly said, was not on the same level.
UA--I did notice the Mini-Hosefa. I also noticed the same filth on the floor of the cell in solitary for months on end and the dirty sweater--yet MD's hair always looks good on visiting day. Poor Esp & Doris, they don't know that MD doesn't get the bananas and oranges nor the other food they bring her.
Romy--Pray hard it doesn't happen, for Max's sake, but Dan looked pretty good post-rehab in his chest-fitting leather jacket and neatly trimmed beard. (Not good enough for us to swoon over, but...there's always MD.) I think that after the shooting, MD is not interested in giving Dan any favors. But, might she accept just to get out jail, if she's faced with losing the baby while still in prison and being convicted and sentenced to years? Of course with El Fin looming, it can't happen. Pray for that, too, Romy.
Vivi--Was it really on Santibanez orders that she's being kept in solitairy confinement? It's begging the question, I guess, but Ursula merely warned the warden that nothing should happen to MD during her pregnancy. The warden could have protected her from Abue by sending her to another facility--which she had considered.
A lot of this could've been prevented if Max & Maria Dolores had just done a civil wedding at the Bustamante mansion and THEN got married in the church, just as Maria Dolores & Dan "did" and Dan & Ivana did.
I really need to know what Clod has been up to and why he's keeping Maria Dolores locked up in jail. Also, what is his "revenge" on the Santibanez?
I think Clod's motive for keeping Maria Dolores in jail is revenge. Maria Dolores opening her mouth is the reason why he doesn't have his family anymore (actually him boinking Isela & lying is why but Clod doesn't see it that way). Since Maria Dolores took him away from his family, he will take her away from hers...including her baby. And because he has investigated abuse at that prison before, he knows full well inmates could either encounter a forced abortion or death. So that's what he's hoping for Maria Dolores. We shall see what his motives are soon.
I really need to know what Clod has been up to and why he's keeping Maria Dolores locked up in jail. Also, what is his "revenge" on the Santibanez?
I think Clod's motive for keeping Maria Dolores in jail is revenge. Maria Dolores opening her mouth is the reason why he doesn't have his family anymore (actually him boinking Isela & lying is why but Clod doesn't see it that way). Since Maria Dolores took him away from his family, he will take her away from hers...including her baby. And because he has investigated abuse at that prison before, he knows full well inmates could either encounter a forced abortion or death. So that's what he's hoping for Maria Dolores. We shall see what his motives are soon.
Permalink posted by : Wednesday, December 16, 2015 at 4:25:00 PM EST
: Wednesday, December 16, 2015 at 4:25:00 PM EST
Anon207, Cont'd--I still remember that horrific phone call he made to his pal, right after he'd promised Alma to get MD out of jail so she could know her grandchild before she passed on. That was quite a shock.
The warden wanted Maria Dolores out of her jail because she was connected to Bustamante and she didn't want any more problems with Claudio. She had even considered transferring Maria Dolores to another jail. But when the word came down that Claudio was washing his hands of Maria Dolores, Granny & Warden felt it was open season on Maria Dolores.
Ursula comes to the jail wanting information and offers to pay Warden to keep Maria Dolores safe while pregnant.
That's when Maria Dolores was thrown into solitary. Ursula didn't tell Warden to throw Maria Dolores in solitary but that was the only way to make sure Granny & the other inmates didn't hurt/kill Maria Dolores while pregnant.
After MD has the baby she'll be thrown back into general population where the inmates can beat, rape & kill Maria Dolores without punishment because they know Claudio Bustamante will not protect Maria Dolores.
Ursula comes to the jail wanting information and offers to pay Warden to keep Maria Dolores safe while pregnant.
That's when Maria Dolores was thrown into solitary. Ursula didn't tell Warden to throw Maria Dolores in solitary but that was the only way to make sure Granny & the other inmates didn't hurt/kill Maria Dolores while pregnant.
After MD has the baby she'll be thrown back into general population where the inmates can beat, rape & kill Maria Dolores without punishment because they know Claudio Bustamante will not protect Maria Dolores.
Permalink posted by : Wednesday, December 16, 2015 at 4:33:00 PM EST
: Wednesday, December 16, 2015 at 4:33:00 PM EST
MD still hasn't seen a doctor so you're right and bet little Dan likely will pop out with a scruffy beard too
Does Claudio know about Ursula's plan to get MD baby? If so, he said he was going to get Ursula where it would hurt the worst. Danny_boy,the baby, her fortune.
Anita,
I am fearful Alma will find out about this before she dies, and will have to take to her grave the knowledge that Claudio purposely threw Maria Dolores to the wolves & denied her the chance to see her son married & happy. I hope Alma dies before this revelation comes to light.
I am fearful Alma will find out about this before she dies, and will have to take to her grave the knowledge that Claudio purposely threw Maria Dolores to the wolves & denied her the chance to see her son married & happy. I hope Alma dies before this revelation comes to light.
Permalink posted by : Wednesday, December 16, 2015 at 4:41:00 PM EST
: Wednesday, December 16, 2015 at 4:41:00 PM EST
I don't think Claudio knows about the Santibanez' plan to snatch Maria Dolores' baby in jail. He does know Dan wants to exercise his parental rights over MD's baby...that's part of why Max & Maria Dolores was getting married so quickly (Alma's sickness just sped it up).
If Claudio wanted to keep the baby away from the Santibanez' he could've used his pull to have Maria Dolores released on bail & kept at the Bustamante mansion or he could've used his pull to have Maria Dolores transferred to another jail (I'm sure he knows exactly what prison Maria Dolores is in from his judicial pals).
But he's using his influence to keep her in jail, and he knows exactly how bad that jail is. He has never liked Maria Dolores and likely sees her as the reason why he's lost everything so if she gets shanked/aborts/killed in prison, oh well. She won't be a problem anymore and Alma's dying soon anyway, so.....
If Claudio wanted to keep the baby away from the Santibanez' he could've used his pull to have Maria Dolores released on bail & kept at the Bustamante mansion or he could've used his pull to have Maria Dolores transferred to another jail (I'm sure he knows exactly what prison Maria Dolores is in from his judicial pals).
But he's using his influence to keep her in jail, and he knows exactly how bad that jail is. He has never liked Maria Dolores and likely sees her as the reason why he's lost everything so if she gets shanked/aborts/killed in prison, oh well. She won't be a problem anymore and Alma's dying soon anyway, so.....
Permalink posted by : Wednesday, December 16, 2015 at 4:47:00 PM EST
: Wednesday, December 16, 2015 at 4:47:00 PM EST
Anon207- It's like Clod is purposely trying to goad Alma into haunting his sorry a** from the great beyond.
Now there's a show I would watch! Alma as poltergeist going after Clod and Isela.
Kelly
Kelly
Permalink posted by : Wednesday, December 16, 2015 at 4:51:00 PM EST
: Wednesday, December 16, 2015 at 4:51:00 PM EST
That's a good question, does Claudio know the plan to take the baby? Does he know the plan for Ivana to have the baby? So much has happened, some secrets revealed, others not, so I'm not sure what he knows.
Thanks for the recap jardinera654. This show is kinda hard for yall to recap, but you do a good job under harsh conditions. This is just a sad story. And it shows what happens
When the wrong people are trusted, and also when the wrong choices are made. And it doesn't do any good to have something over somebody when you go and to join them and continue to do dirty things to other people. (Arango). And what the hell is Jenny's problem? why is she blaming maria Dolores for something somebody else did? If
MD wasn't around for these people to blame for their Problems they have, what would they do? At This point.....whatever.
Ivana, she's obsessed with other people's babies. if she could have grabbed that baby out of Isela's belly she would have.
Poor, poor max.
What a sad state these people are in.
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When the wrong people are trusted, and also when the wrong choices are made. And it doesn't do any good to have something over somebody when you go and to join them and continue to do dirty things to other people. (Arango). And what the hell is Jenny's problem? why is she blaming maria Dolores for something somebody else did? If
MD wasn't around for these people to blame for their Problems they have, what would they do? At This point.....whatever.
Ivana, she's obsessed with other people's babies. if she could have grabbed that baby out of Isela's belly she would have.
Poor, poor max.
What a sad state these people are in.
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