Thursday, December 24, 2015
Yo No Creo en los Hombres #114, Wednesday 12/23/15: Josefa Tries to Pull the Plug on Isela, But Pulls the Trigger on Alma Instead
Happy Holidays,
Amigos! I’m sure most of you are gearing up for festivities or traveling right
now, so I’m not going to put a lot of time in the recap. It will be done from
memory. Enjoy the next few days with family and friends!
In the hospital, Josefa tells Clod that Isela threw herself
from the 2nd floor balcony after she found out what a lying liar who
lies he is. In the background, Honoria looks like she wants to sing a rousing
verse of liar liar pants on fire. But Clod isn’t fooled by Josefa. He knows
Isela was more determined than ever to live her life, to move on from him AND
Josefa, and start her life with her baby. He suspects it was Josefa herself who
threw Isela off that balcony, and if he finds out that’s true, he will
personally see that she rots in jail!
The doctor comes out and tells them all it’s bad news.
First, it was a bad idea to move Isela. (Ooops!) Isela is in a coma and she
will likely not come out of it. The next few hours are crucial to determine if
the pregnancy can be sustained. Josefa shoots an accusatory look at Orlando and
calls him an idiot. He’s devastated and rushes out of the waiting room, with
Doris hot on his heels. He cries and is obviously eaten up with guilt. Doris
looks on and cries as well—but she’s crying because she sees the depth of Orlando’s
feelings for Isela.
Later, Doris goes home and finds the surprise Orly had left
for her before Isela’s fall—a romantic setting with champagne, chocolate
covered strawberries, candles, a bed full of red and pink balloons, a teddy bear, and a note telling Doris how
much he loves (amar) her. Doris is beyond excited and calls Chelito to tell her
about it. Chelito explains that Orly had told her about the surprise, but then
the Isela tragedy happened. She assures Doris that Orly loves her.
Clod insists on paying for Isela’s medical care, but Josefa
refuses, so Ivana steps in to pay for it. Then Ivana runs off to have a good cry.
She tells Gerry that here she is- free, healthy, wealthy (but not so wise), and
yet she can’t have what she most wants- a baby. Meanwhile, MD is in jail, and
Isela is in a coma, and neither can care for their children, while Ivana would
be able to. Gerry’s look screams, “It’s not about you, Ivana!”
Max tells Leo about Isela and their baby sister. Leo puts
aside his anger at Isela and goes to visit her in the hospital. He bumps into
Clara there, who is there for the same reason. Isela was like a sister to her,
and the last few times they spoke, she spoke to her with contempt. They go in
together and speak to Isela who is hooked up to a ventilator and machines. They
express their regret for how they treated her. As they leave, Leo offers Clara
a ride home. She turns him down. She isn’t headed home. She’s going to work her
first event.
MD has a dream/nightmare where she tells Abuela that Max,
not Dan, is the father of her baby, and that she should leave her daughter
alone. Abuela just laughs in her face, and threatens to cut off her baby’s
nose. The next morning, MD tells Nayeli about her nightmare, and her fear that
if the baby comes to live with her in prison, Abuela will hurt the baby (as she
threatened to do last episode). Nayeli says that the prisoners may let Abuela
have her way amongst themselves, and force abortions, but they will NOT allow
her or anyone to hurt a child. The children are sacred. If Abuela dared try it,
sh*t would go down (Troy would burn/ arde Troya), and La Abuela would be thrown
off her throne.
Dan gets his blood drawn for the DNA test. Just as Ursula is
trying to bribe the lab tech to show HER the results first, the court appointed
observer arrives to watch the whole process. Ursula is foiled (for now).
Max visits MD in jail and speaks to her and Nayeli. He’s
just come from visiting the baby and has printed and brought pictures for MD.
He assures her that they aren’t leaving the baby alone for a minute, and that
Dan, Ursula and Ivana will not be allowed in. Max then tells MD that her
hearing proceedings begin today, thanks to Clod trying to rescue his reputation
with his family. This is just the beginning of the battle to win her freedom,
but he’s certain they will succeed. They discuss the shady crap going on in the
prison, and Max is surprised MD knows about Marta being killed there back when
current warden Marcia was head guard in Marta’s section. MD says Isela told
her, and she’s also interested in getting to the bottom of it. Max tells her to
stay out of it and keep her head down, so as not to put herself in more danger.
Max then breaks it to MD about Isela and her condition. MD
cries and recounts how she and Isela were like sisters. The three of them,
she, Isela and Clara, considered themselves sisters since they were little. She
remembers Josefa threatening that she would kill Isela if she really fell in
love with Clod, and then she asks Max if he’s sure it was an accident. Josefa
threatened to kill Isela! Max is shocked but says he will investigate. MD
kisses him and thanks him for everything he does for her and everyone else.
Marcia looks at the newspaper stories about Monterubio’s new
scandal involving a dead girl, and Josefa’s accusations about Marta. She calls
Monterubio and tells him he better get his sh*t together and control this
story. If the press digs, and Josefa and Clod push, BOTH of them could go down
for what happened to Marta, and Marcia has too much to lose now (being the “public
servant” that she is). Monterubio is arrogant and seems unconcerned. He thinks
Jo is insignificant, and Clod won’t go against him.
Corina tries to help Nayeli get info on her kids by getting
in contact with Nayeli’s ex and pretending to be in the market for some stolen
car merchandise. She drops the names of the two Barrio Boys when he gets
suspicious. Corina then enlists the Barrio Boys to help her. They aren’t eager
to be associated with stolen goods anymore, since they want to stay out of
jail, but agree to help when they learn it’s to help out a fellow jail bird,
who is innocent to boot. Nayeli’s ex’s current wife isn’t pleased that some
chick came looking for him. “Her name? Oh, let me find her calling card…”
*middle finger!* He calms her down with some tonsil hockey and bed gymnastics.
Padre Juan visits the baby, and christens her through the
incubator, per MD’s request. The nurse records it all with her phone.
Victor meets with Josefa and Honoria to come up with their
testimony for MD’s hearing. The story he wants them to tell is that MD and
Julian were in a relationship, with the goal of showing that MD was a bed
hopping slut. Hon is not on board with linking her son romantically to that
damned Maria Dolores. Esperanza busts in with Fermin and drops some truth on
Honoria. Hon is taking her anger out on MD because she doesn’t want to admit
her own guilt over giving MD the gun in the first place! She knows this was all
an unfortunate accident. The fact that Hon provided the gun is news to Victor,
and he doesn’t like this complication. Espy and Fermin leave, and Josefa makes
a crack about Hon watching out for Espy and making sure she doesn’t steal her
man. (Oh, please!)
Josefa gets a call from the hospital. There’s been no
improvement and they want to know what Josefa wants to do next. Josefa coldly
tells them to pull the plug on both Isela and the baby! Honoria looks on
horrified. Once they are alone, Honoria threatens to blow Josefa’s lie about
Isela trying to commit suicide out of the water, if she pulls the plug on her
and that baby. Hon admits that when Isela was a girl and she saw how Jo was
abusing her, she should have taken Isela from her (knowing she wasn’t Jo’s
child). But she was so consumed with taking care of sick Julian, that she just
couldn’t handle anything else. But now, Julian is gone, and she can protect
Isela from Josefa! Josefa pushes back. If Hon goes against her, then she will
testify in MD’s favor!
Clod hears from the doctor that Josefa told him to pull the
plug—something he cannot just do. Clod tells the doctor that he needs to speak
to HIM from now on about Isela’s (and the baby’s) care. Clod finds that Orlando
is already at Isela’s bedside, pledging that he will care for her and her baby.
He confronts Orlando. Orlando tells him that Honoria called him and told him
that Isela’s dying wish was that HE take care of her baby, and that the baby
not be allowed to be with Clod or Josefa. Orlando claims that he, not Clod, is the man who most loved Isela. Poor
Doris is just around the corner and hears all of this. Clod insists HIS baby
will carry the Bustamante last name. Isela starts to have a seizure and her
monitors go crazy.
Meanwhile, Josefa busts into casa Bustamante, barrels past
the ineffectual maid, and finds Alma in the nursery and locks them in. Josefa
then tells Alma about Isela’s condition (Max and Leo kept it from her) and says
that Isela attempted to commit suicide because of Alma! Because Alma made her
beg for forgiveness on her knees, when it should have been the other way around,
for what the Bustamantes did to Marta and their family. Poor Alma is sent into
a tailspin of both emotional pain over Isela and extreme physical pain from her
advanced cancer. She cries, desperately tries to catch her breath, sinks to her
knees clutching the baby crib, and then collapses completely, seemingly on the
brink of death.
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Whew, though we are close to ending this everything is still in play, thanks Vivi you cleared up for me the threat counter threat of Josefa and Honoria and MD's dream/nightmare.
"she is- free, healthy, wealthy (but not so wise)"
"Troy would burn/ arde Troya"
Awesome work by Adriana, fear, filth, hope, longing, exhaustion all rolled in one.
Why didn't the maid call the cops, surely they'll have Josefa picked up for busting in on Alma
Corina becomes a street wise justice seeker & righter of wrongs, hmmmm.
Doubtful Isela had a Living Will or Claudio as healthcare proxy so Josefa would be consulted and Claudio have no say in the matter. If there is a law in Mexico intended to protect unborn children, like in some US states, the hospital may refuse to withdraw life support contrary to directives of a living will or healthcare proxy.
The chats yesterday about moving Isela were astute.
Orlando shouldn't apologize for whom he loves but he should have been completely honest with Doris, though the tell-tale signs always there. Doris knows the depth of his love for Isela now and if she is alright with having Orlando by default, fine, but she deserves more than that.
I hope MD's dream isn't a dream
"she is- free, healthy, wealthy (but not so wise)"
"Troy would burn/ arde Troya"
Awesome work by Adriana, fear, filth, hope, longing, exhaustion all rolled in one.
Why didn't the maid call the cops, surely they'll have Josefa picked up for busting in on Alma
Corina becomes a street wise justice seeker & righter of wrongs, hmmmm.
Doubtful Isela had a Living Will or Claudio as healthcare proxy so Josefa would be consulted and Claudio have no say in the matter. If there is a law in Mexico intended to protect unborn children, like in some US states, the hospital may refuse to withdraw life support contrary to directives of a living will or healthcare proxy.
The chats yesterday about moving Isela were astute.
Orlando shouldn't apologize for whom he loves but he should have been completely honest with Doris, though the tell-tale signs always there. Doris knows the depth of his love for Isela now and if she is alright with having Orlando by default, fine, but she deserves more than that.
I hope MD's dream isn't a dream
Gracias, Vivi.
Hosefa will certainly burn in Hell for this although we may not have the satisfaction of seeing it. I also question why the maid didn't call the police over Hosefa barging in. Hell will have no fury like Max and Leo when they find Alma either suffering or dead after that nasty scene.
Considering that Isela's pregnancy is past three months and is likely to be at six months now I doubt the hospital would turn off the machines if the pregnancy is sustainable.
MD better be out of that prison before the baby can be released from the hospital. That crazy Abuela would definitely try to harm the baby if she ended up with MD in the prison.
More later; I have a medical appointment.
Hosefa will certainly burn in Hell for this although we may not have the satisfaction of seeing it. I also question why the maid didn't call the police over Hosefa barging in. Hell will have no fury like Max and Leo when they find Alma either suffering or dead after that nasty scene.
Considering that Isela's pregnancy is past three months and is likely to be at six months now I doubt the hospital would turn off the machines if the pregnancy is sustainable.
MD better be out of that prison before the baby can be released from the hospital. That crazy Abuela would definitely try to harm the baby if she ended up with MD in the prison.
More later; I have a medical appointment.
Morning Urban and Tofie.
During that whole nasty scene between Josefa and Alma I kept wondering why the maid wasn't trying to bust in, and thinking that maid better be calling the cops. Ack!
Josefa telling the doc coldly to pull the plug shows that she only cares about Isela as an instrument for vengeance and a convenient punching bag, nothing more. Her only use now is to stick it to Clod as a "suicide" that's his fault, and to kill his baby. I can't believe Hon is still aligning herself with this vile creature. And lying to Orly that Isela wanted HIM to take care of her baby doesn't count as doing something to protect Isela. It's just causing more problems.
I think Corina's meddling is just going to land the Barrio Boys back in jail.
During that whole nasty scene between Josefa and Alma I kept wondering why the maid wasn't trying to bust in, and thinking that maid better be calling the cops. Ack!
Josefa telling the doc coldly to pull the plug shows that she only cares about Isela as an instrument for vengeance and a convenient punching bag, nothing more. Her only use now is to stick it to Clod as a "suicide" that's his fault, and to kill his baby. I can't believe Hon is still aligning herself with this vile creature. And lying to Orly that Isela wanted HIM to take care of her baby doesn't count as doing something to protect Isela. It's just causing more problems.
I think Corina's meddling is just going to land the Barrio Boys back in jail.
Tofie- Can you believe we have less than ten episodes to go, and no one's fate is certain? I love it. This tn is so unpredictable, but also so damned painful.
Vivi, I cannot nor do I want to acknowledge there are so few episodes remaining. Gimme more, I love being very wrong and/or clueless. Hate em or love em I feel I know these people, not necessarily what they'll do, but know them and hate the looming first day not musing why he or she did or did not do this instead of that. What would I have done, what I hope they'll do, how long the disappointment last when they don't, and the lies I gave up on tracking long ago?
I'll miss all you guys pounding out recap after recap and the deep dive nuance and discussion that leaves me with more questions than answers.
I'll miss all you guys pounding out recap after recap and the deep dive nuance and discussion that leaves me with more questions than answers.
Another funny moment: Max entering the prison yard, like a male model going down the runway, and getting catcalls and whistles from the appreciative female prisoners the whole way. It was pretty obvious to MD that it was her man who had entered the building.
Wow Vivi, I'm convinced that you have a photographic memory. It's the only explanation of how you could recap it by memory. You didn't leave anything out, great job.
Josefa can not be more vile. She just wants to kill everyone in her path.
I thought that Isela did ask Honoria to only allow Orlando or Esperanza to care for the baby, when she was laying on the wreath.
Josefa can not be more vile. She just wants to kill everyone in her path.
I thought that Isela did ask Honoria to only allow Orlando or Esperanza to care for the baby, when she was laying on the wreath.
Thanks, Cathyx! I had heard her say Espy, but she said Orlando too? Thanks for that info. I thought Hon was just lying to Orly to get him to fight the battle she's too much of a coward to fight against Josefa. I still think she should have left Orly out. He's in no position to really help Isela. She should have told the baby's brothers, Max and Leo, who actually have some money and a genetic link to fight Josefa. Orlando has nothing backing up his claim as protector of the baby.
Vivi, I agree about involving Orlando. Even Esperanza has no legal claim to the baby either. Claudio has the legal right and the legal might to fight it anyway, so Orlando will be fighting a losing battle.
Poor Doris. I wonder what will happen there. Can Orlando convince her that he does really love her? Or will Orlando admit that it's not going to ever happen with Doris?
I hope that Ursula can't mess with the DNA results. This close to the end makes me think that she won't be able to.
Poor Doris. I wonder what will happen there. Can Orlando convince her that he does really love her? Or will Orlando admit that it's not going to ever happen with Doris?
I hope that Ursula can't mess with the DNA results. This close to the end makes me think that she won't be able to.
Tofie- Are you asking why the writers are making the drama, or why the characters are making the drama? Max and MD are just trying to stall Dan and Ursula in their take the baby plans. The DNA test just one way of slowing them down. The writers are totally unpredictable and I have no idea how they will make this turn out.
No question about paternity on Isela's baby. It's just that everyone knows Isela didn't want her baby to have anything to do with Clod, and NOBODY wants the baby in the hands of Josefa (so that she can go for round three of destroying a child's life), but those are precisely the two people who would have any legal say over the fate of Isela and her baby.
No a facetious question about MD's child because I have money on Max. Please, please, please.
The drama of who's the daddy is trumped by who knows the truth first and I assume that will be Dan and his mother despite the attention paid to the test procedure. I don't think Ursula cares but she has to know to flip to plan B. Damn MD and fool Max long enough to gain custody. Dan however has a lot riding on this and his plans for a happy family with lady love MD.
The drama of who's the daddy is trumped by who knows the truth first and I assume that will be Dan and his mother despite the attention paid to the test procedure. I don't think Ursula cares but she has to know to flip to plan B. Damn MD and fool Max long enough to gain custody. Dan however has a lot riding on this and his plans for a happy family with lady love MD.
Tofie- From your finger tips to the writers' ears...but I'm not betting on them giving us the happy end of Max being the father. These are the writers who killed off Julian at MD's hand, made pregnant Isela brain dead, and struck Alma down with cancer. They don't give a damn about our desire for a happy ending. Their only concern is weaving a gripping story.
If anyone wants a happy ending, watch any other TN. That's another thing I love about this one. It's completely unpredictable.
I didn't want to hear that, really I didn't, happy thought, happy, happy, happy.
Outside my big bubble I also consider more folk dying including Max, something really bad happening to Clara, Jenny not able to conceive and subsequent downward spiral, or left with Alma dying with that look of terror and defeat in her eyes with Josefa standing over her with smug satisfaction of a job well done and skipping home.
Outside my big bubble I also consider more folk dying including Max, something really bad happening to Clara, Jenny not able to conceive and subsequent downward spiral, or left with Alma dying with that look of terror and defeat in her eyes with Josefa standing over her with smug satisfaction of a job well done and skipping home.
Happy holidays to all of you wonderful people. I have enjoyed this show through your hard work. I decided not to watch because I look forward to your gripping retelling of each episode. Be safe and well and may G-d bless all.
Romy
Romy
I hope Alma is found alive and that she lives long enough to curse Hosefa. If Isela is taken out by death or brain damage I'd want to see Hosefa in that very prison at the mercy of the other prisoners who would definitely know what to do with a bruja who pimped out her own granddaughter. How much more vile could anyone get (I'd rather not know)?
Vivi – Thanks for taking time from your festivities to gift us this recap. I haven’t watch this episode yet, but your recap makes it so vivid. My favorites:
Gerry’s look screams, “It’s not about you, Ivana!”
“Her name? Oh, let me find her calling card…” *middle finger!* He calms her down with some tonsil hockey and bed gymnastics.
And I can't wait to watch Max getting catcalls in the women's prison.
To Orlando's credit, if Doris were lying there dying, he'd be just as sorrowful. Isela is his lost love, Doris is his found one.
Tofie - I'm betting the baby is Max's too. That Max could possibly be the father got little or no attention on the show in the past, but now I'm seeing a little foreshadowing (of course I could be delusional).
Gerry’s look screams, “It’s not about you, Ivana!”
“Her name? Oh, let me find her calling card…” *middle finger!* He calms her down with some tonsil hockey and bed gymnastics.
And I can't wait to watch Max getting catcalls in the women's prison.
To Orlando's credit, if Doris were lying there dying, he'd be just as sorrowful. Isela is his lost love, Doris is his found one.
Tofie - I'm betting the baby is Max's too. That Max could possibly be the father got little or no attention on the show in the past, but now I'm seeing a little foreshadowing (of course I could be delusional).
Vivi--Add my voice to the gratitude shown above for handing us this lovely Christmas Eve delicacy (your recap, not the tn). Amazed at your memory? No. I've been privy to it many times, lucky for all of us. Just totally envious, in a nice way.
About MD's dream. I couldn't believe they would introduce this tantalizing tidbit so late in the show unless it was to remind us that she and Max had made love--one time--so long ago--before the rape. Now it will be on all our minds and not be taken by surprise IF it turns out that Dan-Dan is not the father. If for no other reason, I want to see the look on Ursula's and Dan's faces if they get that news. (I think Arango will be secretly pleased by the news, too.) [P.S. Vivi--Ursula was the one who stated that this would be her third opportunity to raise a child. Granted the numbers serve for Hosefa as well, as you pointed out. Interesting, this would be the third time for Clod, third time for Espy, but not for Honoria--she's only at two.]
I've been thinking of Orlando's statement to Clod about being the only one who truly *loved* Isela. Note he used the past tense. For me it was a true statement, but not one that excludes Doris. (Even MD abandoned her in the end.) It doesn't mean he does *not* love Doris. I choose not to think she's Orlando's 2nd choice. I think Orlando gave Isela up as a life partner a long time ago. In current parlance, she's what we would call a high-maintenance chick. Remember also what Vivi said yesterday, "The issue is that it's Isela- a woman who likes to, and often, puts on a show of being fragile and helpless in order to manipulate others, and Orly has never caught on to this." This is also a true statement, although I personally believe Orlando caught on to her particular neediness, but ignored how it was affecting Doris when he dropped everything to run to her aid. He was just being himself, a white knight, good Samaritan, whatever.
Vivi and cathyx--Isela was conscious when she told Honoria to give her baby either to Espy or Orlando. She didn't want her in Clod or Hosefa's hands. I noted that she didn't want (unspoken) Honoria either. By the time Orlando was there, Isela was unconscious and she hasn't spoken since. There was so much going on that Honoria probably delayed some time before telling Orlando. But I agree with everyone here that Clod and Hosefa are in a better position to decide both Isela's and the baby's fates. It seems to me there would still be some legal protocol established before determining who decides--and the hospital also has a voice in the matter.
So much to say, so little time before it's over. Tofie, I so agree this telenovela could have gone on for another 50 episodes and I wouldn't have tired of it. Too many characters with so many stories to follow. (OTOH--I'm looking forward to Hotel de los Secretos).
About MD's dream. I couldn't believe they would introduce this tantalizing tidbit so late in the show unless it was to remind us that she and Max had made love--one time--so long ago--before the rape. Now it will be on all our minds and not be taken by surprise IF it turns out that Dan-Dan is not the father. If for no other reason, I want to see the look on Ursula's and Dan's faces if they get that news. (I think Arango will be secretly pleased by the news, too.) [P.S. Vivi--Ursula was the one who stated that this would be her third opportunity to raise a child. Granted the numbers serve for Hosefa as well, as you pointed out. Interesting, this would be the third time for Clod, third time for Espy, but not for Honoria--she's only at two.]
I've been thinking of Orlando's statement to Clod about being the only one who truly *loved* Isela. Note he used the past tense. For me it was a true statement, but not one that excludes Doris. (Even MD abandoned her in the end.) It doesn't mean he does *not* love Doris. I choose not to think she's Orlando's 2nd choice. I think Orlando gave Isela up as a life partner a long time ago. In current parlance, she's what we would call a high-maintenance chick. Remember also what Vivi said yesterday, "The issue is that it's Isela- a woman who likes to, and often, puts on a show of being fragile and helpless in order to manipulate others, and Orly has never caught on to this." This is also a true statement, although I personally believe Orlando caught on to her particular neediness, but ignored how it was affecting Doris when he dropped everything to run to her aid. He was just being himself, a white knight, good Samaritan, whatever.
Vivi and cathyx--Isela was conscious when she told Honoria to give her baby either to Espy or Orlando. She didn't want her in Clod or Hosefa's hands. I noted that she didn't want (unspoken) Honoria either. By the time Orlando was there, Isela was unconscious and she hasn't spoken since. There was so much going on that Honoria probably delayed some time before telling Orlando. But I agree with everyone here that Clod and Hosefa are in a better position to decide both Isela's and the baby's fates. It seems to me there would still be some legal protocol established before determining who decides--and the hospital also has a voice in the matter.
So much to say, so little time before it's over. Tofie, I so agree this telenovela could have gone on for another 50 episodes and I wouldn't have tired of it. Too many characters with so many stories to follow. (OTOH--I'm looking forward to Hotel de los Secretos).
Thanks, Anita. Hope you're having a great start to the holiday. Oh yes, I know it has been stated before that Ursula would be messing up a third kid if she got her hands on MD's baby. But it equally applies to Josefa if she gets her hands on Isela's baby.
Honoria actually did well with Julian, and so did Espy with her kids, so I wouldn't worry about how they would do raising their grandchildren.
Honoria actually did well with Julian, and so did Espy with her kids, so I wouldn't worry about how they would do raising their grandchildren.
Anita- And you're right that it's notable that Orlando used the past tense when speaking of his love for Isela to Clod.
Vivi, thank you for this wonderful telling recap.
Ok josefa is a nasty cold blooded and black hearted evil creature. I can understand her
Being hurt because of her daughters death, I
Think now she loves being hateful and evil.
Isela wants nothing more to do with her so
She tells the dr. to pull the plug, and then goes and cause more pain to a womam who
Had nothing to do with her daughters death.
Shes just a nasty heartless ( Im gonna spell it out) B*I*T*C*H. This goes beyond hurtin for Her daughter. She just don't give a damn of whats right or wrong. I was hoping leo would have come home and drug her mean ass out of there by her smelly hair, but nobody came To protect this dying women from this thing Thats already dead Inside. Alright, rant over.
"Josefa makes a crack to hon about watching out for espy, making sure she don't
Steal her man. (Oh please)!!! ITA Vivi, that
Would not be a theft he'd walk away gladly.
But he's not like that he loves honora. Maybe
Assefa need to consider her own situation back in the day. I hope isela wakes up.
I liked gerry's look "its not about you ivanna".
Maybe one day she'll get that.
Ok josefa is a nasty cold blooded and black hearted evil creature. I can understand her
Being hurt because of her daughters death, I
Think now she loves being hateful and evil.
Isela wants nothing more to do with her so
She tells the dr. to pull the plug, and then goes and cause more pain to a womam who
Had nothing to do with her daughters death.
Shes just a nasty heartless ( Im gonna spell it out) B*I*T*C*H. This goes beyond hurtin for Her daughter. She just don't give a damn of whats right or wrong. I was hoping leo would have come home and drug her mean ass out of there by her smelly hair, but nobody came To protect this dying women from this thing Thats already dead Inside. Alright, rant over.
"Josefa makes a crack to hon about watching out for espy, making sure she don't
Steal her man. (Oh please)!!! ITA Vivi, that
Would not be a theft he'd walk away gladly.
But he's not like that he loves honora. Maybe
Assefa need to consider her own situation back in the day. I hope isela wakes up.
I liked gerry's look "its not about you ivanna".
Maybe one day she'll get that.
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: Thursday, December 24, 2015 at 5:35:00 PM EST
: Thursday, December 24, 2015 at 5:35:00 PM EST
2 of of these mothers that should not attempt
To raise a child again, that would be the two
Granmas from hell, ursula & josefa. Even tho
Claudio is a lying liar, he was a good papa. He raised two honorable sons with the help of a Good wife and mother. Too bad he didn't go public with that kind of integrity.
To raise a child again, that would be the two
Granmas from hell, ursula & josefa. Even tho
Claudio is a lying liar, he was a good papa. He raised two honorable sons with the help of a Good wife and mother. Too bad he didn't go public with that kind of integrity.
Permalink posted by : Thursday, December 24, 2015 at 5:44:00 PM EST
: Thursday, December 24, 2015 at 5:44:00 PM EST
Nina- Thanks so much for dropping in with your saucy comments, amiga. Just about to drive over to my parents' house, but I'll be on my tablet keeping an eye on comments. Happy Christmas Eve for those who celebrate!
Hi all! Whew! I feel like I haven't really been on the Patio in months! As it is, I'm only popping in.
Thank you for the fantastic recap Vivi! I must go back and check out Catwalk Max (sounds delish!) I caught most of the episode, but really missed Isela's dying wishes, so that's to you all for clarifying (I thought she just said NOT Clod/Josefa, not that she wanted Orly/Espy to raise her daughter).
Count me among those that think Max is the father. So much bad stuff has gone down, this seems like a thin silver lining that could help wrap things up. Of course, this is YNCELH, so anything could go down.
Oh! I just knew someone was going over that dark railing! Ever since Hon yelled at Josefa for shaking it, I had an image in my head that someone was going to die that way. First I thought it was Marta, then Josefa. Never thought it would be Isela! Totally wasn't expecting her to die at all! In a perfect world, she and Alma would be perfect matches and the doctors would somehow harvest a bunch of Isela's organs for Alma who would then be magically cured and able to see her (biological) granddaughter raised and the Santibanez foiled...but again, this is YNCELH, so that's wildly impossible. Sigh.
Did they christen the baby "Alma"? Adorable. I totally thought that was going to be the way Isela went, but if they're going with dying grandparents, I guess it'll be Marta?
Leo's totally regretting breaking up with Clara - sweet. He'll prob be the one to save her from the clients that will inevitably sexually assault her after her new boss's comment yesterday? Day before? I don't know, I just watched the last four episodes while cooking for tomorrow, so I'm not sure. (So glad it's preempted tonight!)
Anyway, I love y'all! Happy Holidays! See you next week!
Thank you for the fantastic recap Vivi! I must go back and check out Catwalk Max (sounds delish!) I caught most of the episode, but really missed Isela's dying wishes, so that's to you all for clarifying (I thought she just said NOT Clod/Josefa, not that she wanted Orly/Espy to raise her daughter).
Count me among those that think Max is the father. So much bad stuff has gone down, this seems like a thin silver lining that could help wrap things up. Of course, this is YNCELH, so anything could go down.
Oh! I just knew someone was going over that dark railing! Ever since Hon yelled at Josefa for shaking it, I had an image in my head that someone was going to die that way. First I thought it was Marta, then Josefa. Never thought it would be Isela! Totally wasn't expecting her to die at all! In a perfect world, she and Alma would be perfect matches and the doctors would somehow harvest a bunch of Isela's organs for Alma who would then be magically cured and able to see her (biological) granddaughter raised and the Santibanez foiled...but again, this is YNCELH, so that's wildly impossible. Sigh.
Did they christen the baby "Alma"? Adorable. I totally thought that was going to be the way Isela went, but if they're going with dying grandparents, I guess it'll be Marta?
Leo's totally regretting breaking up with Clara - sweet. He'll prob be the one to save her from the clients that will inevitably sexually assault her after her new boss's comment yesterday? Day before? I don't know, I just watched the last four episodes while cooking for tomorrow, so I'm not sure. (So glad it's preempted tonight!)
Anyway, I love y'all! Happy Holidays! See you next week!
So few of these people are capable of taking on a newborn. But maybe Honoria can take Isela if she survives. She already has Julian's wheelchair and ramps, and this will be a way for her to make up her previous failure to help Isela as a child. Besides, she likes babying people and Isela likes being taken care of. They're perfect for each other. But the baby needs to go with Max or Espy.
Happy holidays a todos!
Kelly
Happy holidays a todos!
Kelly
Permalink posted by : Thursday, December 24, 2015 at 7:53:00 PM EST
: Thursday, December 24, 2015 at 7:53:00 PM EST
MERRY CHRISTMAS AND HAPPY HOLIDAYS
TO ALL WHO CELEBRATE!!!
TO ALL WHO CELEBRATE!!!
Permalink posted by : Thursday, December 24, 2015 at 9:07:00 PM EST
: Thursday, December 24, 2015 at 9:07:00 PM EST
Happy holidays to a wonderful group of people!
I've so thoroughly enjoyed reliving this marvelous experience with you all. Thanks for the all the laughs, the poignant conversations, and the good times. Merry Christmas to everybody!
I've so thoroughly enjoyed reliving this marvelous experience with you all. Thanks for the all the laughs, the poignant conversations, and the good times. Merry Christmas to everybody!
Permalink posted by : Thursday, December 24, 2015 at 9:10:00 PM EST
: Thursday, December 24, 2015 at 9:10:00 PM EST
I echo many of you/us saying a huge thank you to our hardworking bloggers! These translations give the pictures meaningm and all the comments that follow are as entertaining as the script and acting!
Here is a salute to Hellashelle - I remember when you predicted someone would dive over the iron railing in the courtyard - the first time that Josefa gave it a good shake.
Tofie, you said it right: "I love being very wrong and/or clueless. Hate em or love em I feel I know these people, not necessarily what they'll do, but know them and hate the looming first day not musing why he or she did or did not do this instead of that. What would I have done, what I hope they'll do, how long the disappointment last when they don't, and the lies I gave up on tracking long ago?"
It is looking very good for Hotel! I hope everyone will stick around as we take up a new set of characters in a different time and place and carry them with us in that special place in our heads for a while. (I have to admit, they do stick around in my head even after the series if finished.)
Merry Christmas or Happy Holidays to all of you,
Marcia
Here is a salute to Hellashelle - I remember when you predicted someone would dive over the iron railing in the courtyard - the first time that Josefa gave it a good shake.
Tofie, you said it right: "I love being very wrong and/or clueless. Hate em or love em I feel I know these people, not necessarily what they'll do, but know them and hate the looming first day not musing why he or she did or did not do this instead of that. What would I have done, what I hope they'll do, how long the disappointment last when they don't, and the lies I gave up on tracking long ago?"
It is looking very good for Hotel! I hope everyone will stick around as we take up a new set of characters in a different time and place and carry them with us in that special place in our heads for a while. (I have to admit, they do stick around in my head even after the series if finished.)
Merry Christmas or Happy Holidays to all of you,
Marcia
Niece
I love what you said, brought tears to my eyes and coherence to my brain.
Isela is joys lost love but Doris is his found one👸👸!!)()()()
I love what you said, brought tears to my eyes and coherence to my brain.
Isela is joys lost love but Doris is his found one👸👸!!)()()()
Looks like they gave us a repeat on the 25th, no? I did not want to see Alma having to suffer twice in two days.
Anita- Really? I haven't looked at my recording yet. Well that explains how they will stretch this all the way to the week of Jan 11-15. Another preempted day and perhaps another rerun, and they'll be able to do it. That gives them just one week to fill with something before hotel starts 1/25.
Anita, I was under the impression that there were no episodes on Thursday or Friday. Did they just repeat it then? I think it's the same next week with New Years.
Cathyx- All the others shows had fresh episodes on Friday. It's odd that they reran Yo No. But again, I think it's to get them as far into Jan as possible.
Yep, I was all ready and last night was a rerun and saw Alma suffer again. Kept trying to turn away but couldn't. Weird because the other shows had new content.
I bet that's why too Vivi. And we will still have almost a month with no TN before the new one starts.
There are 121 episodes, really 122 because the finale is 2 hours. I'm guessing they'll give us three episodes next week (115-117), no episode Thurs, repeat of 117 on Friday. That would leave 5 hours/one week of episodes after that (118-121 and 121 part 2).
Maybe they'll surprise us and give us a wedding for md & max. These people need some happiness, they're so miserable. I just want to really see the bad guys get theirs. I
Hope you guys a good christmas. Lookin to the New Year, 016.
So that means there's six more episodes left. 5 more, the last is 2 hours, so thats 6. So that
Means a lot of crazy goings on. A lot of insanity.
HAPPY NEW YEAR YA'LL!!!!!!!
Hope you guys a good christmas. Lookin to the New Year, 016.
So that means there's six more episodes left. 5 more, the last is 2 hours, so thats 6. So that
Means a lot of crazy goings on. A lot of insanity.
HAPPY NEW YEAR YA'LL!!!!!!!
Permalink posted by : Sunday, December 27, 2015 at 10:54:00 AM EST
: Sunday, December 27, 2015 at 10:54:00 AM EST
Merry Christmas and happy holidays to all in the patio!
I hope you all spent a wonderful time.
Vivi this was a great recap, you trully have a wonderful memory!
I read that YNCELH has been doing great in the US and even gets the number 1 spot sometimes above Pasión y Poder (which seems to be doing better in the US than Mexico). That's great. I think Univision really wants to keep the momentum and start the new telenovela away from holiday celebrations because people tend to not watch much tv during these times.
Jarocha
I hope you all spent a wonderful time.
Vivi this was a great recap, you trully have a wonderful memory!
I read that YNCELH has been doing great in the US and even gets the number 1 spot sometimes above Pasión y Poder (which seems to be doing better in the US than Mexico). That's great. I think Univision really wants to keep the momentum and start the new telenovela away from holiday celebrations because people tend to not watch much tv during these times.
Jarocha
Permalink posted by : Sunday, December 27, 2015 at 11:26:00 AM EST
: Sunday, December 27, 2015 at 11:26:00 AM EST
Happy New Year, Nina! There are 8 hours/episodes left. 2 weeks to go.
Jarocha- Yes, I saw that Yo No is pulling in bigger numbers than the other shows on Uni (and Telemundo) which is unusual for the 10pm show. I'm glad. It deserves it. I makes sense to start the new show well away from the holidays.
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Jarocha- Yes, I saw that Yo No is pulling in bigger numbers than the other shows on Uni (and Telemundo) which is unusual for the 10pm show. I'm glad. It deserves it. I makes sense to start the new show well away from the holidays.
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