Caray, Caray!

Great retelling Hellashelle, thank you

"her twisted, pleading, crazy-lady love"

"he was like a brother to her…honestly, even I’m tired of hearing it"

"It’s like a twisted red carpet walk"

Thank you Clara, though no one believes you about Isela you got it partly wrong. MD is not in your league

Wow, I'm pleased MD didn't make a deal with Dan but wonder if the result would be the same had he made his pitch in person

This is weird to me. Max doesn't even call his client nor she him for days. Perhaps MD should get another attorney since she will not tell the one she has Dan has unfettered access.

So Jacinto in one day finds out the owner of the bank Marta worked for is a buddy of Claudio's. Hey MD hire the guy Jacinto found for Usurla

I wish Susana would shut up I started to see crazy Ivana in them eyes and that's all MD needs.

 

Gracias, Hellashelle. I had a little difficulty following some of the dialogue in this episode.

When is anyone going to go to the police about Danny-Boy having killed his father? I realize that the revelation was yesterday relative to the characters, but nobody should let this sit for any length of time. He needs to be taken out of action NOW and his egg donor along with him.

What is Nayeli in for? I don't remember.

I can't believe there are only 17 episodes left and so much to still resolve.

Obviously Danny-Boy's lawyer knows nothing about him having killed his father and it's more than time for MD to tell Max what's been going on.
 

Nayeli took the rap for her kids father who received stolen goods. When she agreed to cover for him she didn't realize the consequences
 

Now THAT is disgusting. At least her only crime was foolishness.
 

Great recap, Hellashelle! I knew MD wouldn't accept Dan's deal. She's been done with him a long time, and no Tofie, I don't think him being there in person would have changed her mind. It just would have resulted in him getting slapped instead of Victor.

Let's hope during this visit with Max she tells him all that's happened in the past two days.

It pisses me off that what Clod did will put a bigger target on MD's back. Ugh!

Susana is both good at turning up Ivana's crazy or calming it down (like when Ivana was going to allow Max's murder). I noticed her calling MD's baby Ivana's baby, while she discouraged her from forming a family with Gerry. I notice Ivana still hasn't gone down to make her police statement. MD's baby is still an option in her mind, obviously.

Glad Ari shared all he knew and made peace with Doris and Orly before leaving. Hope he finds his lovely, curvy, rich Gringa. :)
 

I am starting to believe that Susanna is looking to gaslight Ivana just as Ursula gaslit Maleny. Since they have no other relatives who gets Vera Duval Designs if Ivana dies?

She does have a point about how things would look if Ivana married Gerry. If he is known in the design community to be gay, they could look like beards for each other and that could lead people to think Ivana is a lesbian. I don't know how that is viewed in Mexico but lesbians aren't getting a good rep in this story.

Now, based on what Jacinto seems to have found out, it's obvious that some evidence could have been suppressed during the investigation into the alleged theft. Was the bank manager a friend, acquaintance, or client of Claudio's? If not, did he have a really clever lawyer? Was that Arango or the sleazeball that now represents Danny-Boy?

Tofie, I don't think Max can call MD. Even if he could, I'm sure the warden could figure out a way to prevent her getting the call.

BTW, I find it ironic that prisoners have to call out when they can't afford it while their families and lawyers can't call in. Must be because it upsets the routine.
 

My point is that Max seems no more anxious to be in contact with MD as she is him. He is a Bustamante so why doesn't he use the name? It said it all as the warden and grandma spoke that Dan could come and go as if it were his own home. Attorney Max is clueless and I don't lay all the blame on MD.
 

Tofie- Dan is willing and eager to bribe and blackmail. Max is not. He's also not willing to trade on his father's name, especially not right now when he hates him. But like MD before him, he needs to wake up and learn that everyone around him (including his father) is playing dirty and stacking the decks against him and MD.
 

I thought MD did a good job winning points with La Abuela last night and actually making her think about her own hypocrisy, when she pointed out that La Abuela is so eager to harm and condemn the children of rapists, but is willing to give those rapists, like Dan, a free pass and make deals with them.
 

What Max needs to be spending his time doing is keeping the pressure on Ivana to make her statement-- drive her down to the damn police station if he has to and hover over her shoulder. He hasn't learned by now that Ivana is not a reliable ally. She's their ONLY witness. Time to put her to good use.
 

Hi guys. I've been totally out of the conversation loop for the past couple of weeks and I'll probably only be able to pop in for the rest of the show.

1) Clara - I'm with her on this. She's totally right. If MD had taken her advice from the beginning, half of the crazy could have been avoided. The best way, though, might have been to give other people - like Alma and/or Max - a heads up about it so they could break the news to him in the least painful way possible.

2) Leo - His reaction seemed reasonable enough to me. I do hope that he cuts Clara some slack though. Yes, she should have told him. She wanted to and didn't, but he should also realize that there were a lot of other factors in place like Claudio and Isela denying it, plausibility, proof, whether or not that potential problem was the priority right then, plus the fact that she did in fact tell him eventually. I mean, geez, give the girl some time to think!

3) So is the Abuela directly tied to any family, or did she go after Marta because of another rape issue?

4) Back to Clara's rant: In addition to YES!!!! is there actually a possibility that Isela and Claudio just live happily ever after?! Really?! After all this?! Wow.

5) Also I wasn't expecting Orlando's background either. Wow.
 

Thanks, Hellashelle. Terrific recap. My favorite lines: her twisted, pleading, crazy-lady love and After Fermin leaves, we see hopelessness cross her face – this fight doesn't stop the pain.

After Isela tells Clara she’s leaving, Isela actually just stands there with that hangdog victim thing she does, waiting for Clara to say something sweet and kind like “don’t go, poor pitiful you.” But, yay!, Clara didn’t take her sad and angry eyes off her cupcakes, which to me said “Don't let the door hit you on the way out!” You go, Clara!

Ivana has the money and prestige to adopt without marriage. Surely, there's an amante in the future for both she and Gerry. They should be able to figure out adopting without marrying each other.

I like how Ari operates – apologize and go to Acapulco. Why hang around that sad and depressing hood.

Interesting to see if MD can get Abuela to change. MD was right, Abuela should be busting rapists, rather than doing unwanted abortions.
 

Thank you Hellashelle, I'm sorry that you can't comment more, I like your analyses.

What is Claudio's reason for wanting to keep MD in jail longer? I can't see any reason for it. And speaking of Claudio, he is in deeper in the Marta mess that we previously knew. Now we find out that he was the banker's lawyer, and the judge on the case too? How is that even possible? Conflict of interest anyone?

I applaud Clara too. Good for her to tell it like it is. Leo needs to do some deep thinking about Clara's role in all this. But that probably won't come with some more maturity.

Vivi, yes, what is wrong with Max not putting pressure on Ivana to make her statement? What is he waiting for?
 

Agree Vivi and Niecie. Along with Clara's I ain't falling for your pity routine speech to Isela that well timed point MD made were highlights of the night for me. MD gained some credibility in my book in how she is handling Abuela. It's a shame because after all MD has suffered she is now astute enough to see a crack and willing to exploit it but before could not see the scum trail Dan left behind him.
 

Isela was making those faux innocent big doe eyes at Orlando too, when he dropped her off in Ari's apartment. It was almost like she was waiting for him to make a declaration of love. But he was just like, ok, you're settled, call me if anything needs fixing, oh, here's your baby-daddy, see ya.
 

Orlando and Doris should have talked Ari into testifying since he was in the columbarium and heard the whole thing about Danny-Boy being his father's murderer. That would force Ivana into telling the right people that she was the one who yelled "J'accuse!" Max could also be a witness.

Of course, we would also need to worry now whether Claudio would deny it all and reset this back to Zero.
 

uh yeah. Isela I think believes she could have Orlando back in a flash but I kinda get why she thinks that. He's going way out of his way to help her even after everything she and her sugardaddy have done to him, I don't understand.
 

Yeah it's very true to life. Orlando's trying to be a stand up guy and help someone out who clearly doesn't have their life together. He's making a special effort to be selfless, but it's odd to see when so many people have ulterior motives.
 

It's in character for Orlando, but considering how Isela burned him earlier I am surprised as I type this. When MD finds out about her betrayal I'd like her to tell Isela to take a long walk off a short pier.
 

Hellashelle--Before it gets any later, thank you for the recap and glad to see one of your Clara-fying comments. Clara has been the single character who has remained most grounded. She doesn't waffle, she's not moody or self-pitying. She meets her challenges with fortitude. In these last scenes, her torment was very real and finally the dam broke.
 

Good recap. Thank you hellashelle. The episode was as always, miserable. The actors are good. I'll be glad when its over. Ok. Bye.