Monday, February 01, 2016
El Hotel de los Secretos #6, 2/1/16 Monday: All that glitters is trouble
Isabel runs through the woods in her white dress and white shoes, which is what all the fashionable sleuths wear to chase bagmen through the woods. She slips and falls, and the bagman runs away. Julio arrives and momentarily seems to weigh chasing the bagman vs. helping Isabel, but Isabel wins. "I don't think we can be friends," it sounds like he murmurs to her unconscious face. She comes around a moment later, and they update one another as to why she didn't wait for him.
Isabel says the blackmailer was wearing a cloak from the hotel. Julio says the piano man wasn't even around the night of the "light party," so Diego is lying. Testily, Isa says Diego might be lying, but that doesn't mean he's a criminal.
Meanwhile, in the low-tech crime lab, Ayala tells Dagoberto that Cristina's uniform appears to have been soaked in water. (That reminds me - how come no one ever smells the ashes from the stove that Diego tried to burn it in?) If it was soaked in hot water, that means they tried to wash it. Soaking in cold water could mean someone fell into a pond.
Ayala breaks it down further for Dogbert: There's no halo like you'd see if the blood had already set in. That means the blood was fresh and the cold water washed away most of it.
Ayala has Dogbert dim the lights. Blood is easier to see by candlelight, Ayala explains. The stain is fairly round, which means the wound dripped slowly and didn't spray like you'd get from an arterial wound. This blood isn't from a stab wound. So we've got two kinds of weapons, which maybe means two different murderers. Ayala may be around for a while.
Genaro, the guy from the cantina, tells Ayala and Dogbert, "I can tell you who she was with the night she died."
Julio is making snotty, resentful remarks to Isabel about "you people" (as in, "you people think you can do no wrong"). Isabel reminds him that she's on his side. And, hey, it was a while before Diego started lying to her, but Julio started lying right away.
Stricken, Julio apologizes for involving Isabel in his problems and promises not to do it again.
Teresa is giving motherly advice to Sofia about Alfredo's mother's visit. Are you giving him "everything" he needs, Tere asks. Well... not during the... pregnancy... Sofia says. (Sofia can barely say the word... I don't see how she's going to fake a full-term pregnancy if she can't even say it.) Tere: You know, there are other "things" you can do for your husband. He's got too much energy. If he's happy, you won't have to worry about your MIL.
Sofi is worried her MIL will ask questions and trip her up. Tere says a woman's life is worthless without a man by her side, so she'd better get good at lying.
Garrido the goon has bad news for Diego: he didn't get the blackmailer, and he didn't get the money. Diego is really, really mad.
Julio asks Pascual about the button. Yes, Pascual admits to losing a button, but it was quite a while ago. Craftily, Julio says he heard the pond is very dangerous, and something happened to a maid at the pond the night of the light party. Pascual says he doesn't know anything about it and Julio should mind his own business.
Ayala informs Teresa he'll be staying at the hotel. "Oh, I doubt you can afford it on your salary." "You're right about that," he laughs. Anyway, Felipe is the prime suspect. Witnesses saw them together. Tere protests. Ayala says he's open to better information if she has any to share. He explains about the gold knife and the bloody uniform. Also, Felipe spends a lot of time at the cantina.
"That's all you've got?" Tere scoffs. "The cantina guy's word is better than my son's?" Sorry, Ayala says, but lately Felipe's word isn't worth much. In fact, did Tere know that last year he was arrested for "aggression"? (Felipe says he was defending a lady's honor. "Yeah, guess what kind of lady," Ayala says.) The witness at the bar might be miserable, but he's never been in jail, so his word is actually better than Felipe's. So Felipe's going downtown. Or is he? Felipe says he has a witness of his own.
Ayala asks Julio about the night Jimena was killed. They were together for a while. Felipe got in a fight, Julio helped him out and they left together and went straight to the hotel. Julio says Felipe was in no condition to harm anyone. Julio doesn't know where Jimena was after that.
Isabel confronts Diego over his lie about the piano man. That note wasn't for the maestro. Diego says he didn't want her to get involved. Reluctantly, then, he says the note was actually for Felipe. No, really. He's in deep trouble and someone wants to make him suffer. Diego wants Isabel to go to the arroyo crossing with him to look for clues.
Ayala asks Julio if Felipe mentioned anything to him about Cristina Olmedo's disappearance. Julio says he doesn't know who that is!
Privately, Felipe swears on his father's memory (which earns him a slap from his mother) that he doesn't know anything. Good thing Romulo didn't live long enough to see what his son has become, Tere says. And she's going to have someone clean his stinky pigpen of a room.
Andres warns Julio that Diego and Isabel just went to the stream crossing with Garrido. Julio hurries down to see.
Meanwhile, Natalia the maid is making Felipe's bed when she finds a broken gold knife under the mattress. She gives the knife to Angela. Angela tells her to forget she ever saw it, and tell no one, or she'll be fired.
At the arroyo, Isabel says she's sure the bagman was a man. They find a piece of cloth - and Isa finds a cufflink, which she hurriedly conceals without showing it to Diego.
Angela takes the knife to Tere. Angela assures her that no one else will find out about it. "Thank you for your discretion to the hotel and the family," Teresa says formally. Angela replies, there's no need to thank me. I don't do this for your benefit!
Natalia has already told Andres about the knife, and Andres is trying to cheer her up. Andres thinks she should tell the detective. Julio, freshly arrived, says don't tell anyone until he talks to Isabel first. She'll know what to do.
Later, Isabel is looking at the cufflink when she hears a very loud harmonica echoing up from the forest outside her window. She finds Julio in the woods. (No one else heard it?)
Julio and Isabel make up for their earlier spat. He says he followed her today to protect her from Diego. "Do you see the same thing in his eyes that you see in mine?" he asks. "Your soul." It gets a little warm there for a second. She changes the subject, giving him the cufflink. He recognizes it right away - it was their father's. One of the few fancy things they had. Mother gave it to Cristina in case she needed to sell it. Why did the blackmailer have it? Speaking of which, Isabel says, Diego is lying to protect Felipe. Julio tells her about the gold knife found in her bro's mattress.
From a distance, Benjamin sees Julio touching Isabel's arm. "She's very nice but don't let that confuse you," the older man counsels Julio. "We are servants, don't forget it."
Felipe meets again with Teresa. He swears up and down he doesn't know anything. "I know it looks bad, but I would never kill someone in cold blood!" He begs her on his knees. She coldly tells him to get off the floor, and slaps him a couple of times. She tries to give him a hint: As long as the knife isn't found, the case stays open, and someone will try to do this to him again. She hands him the knife and tells him to think.
Felipe's a little slow, so she gives him another hint: Let's give the police a suspect. Who? You figure it out. Next hint: Hide it in the servants room and get the police to search it. Relieved, he falls into her arms in gratitude. She half-hugs him for a second, then pushes him away impatiently.
Felipe sneaks into the room that Julio shares with Andres. He sees in Andres' Bible and smirks, hiding the knife under the mattress.
Belen and Julio are polishing silver. Julio shows her the cufflink. Says he finds it near her door. She doesn't seem to recognize it. Then he says it's gold and pearl. That seems to pique her interest. Oh yes, now she recognizes it. Yeah, right, Julio says. But seriously, if she can find the owner, find the other cufflink, they can sell them. Oh, now Belen remembers: they belonged to the girl she used to share her room with. She was supposed to sell them, but instead she gave them to her sweetie. Maybe he has the other one? Oh, and the sweetie, who was that? It was Pascual!
Isabel walks with Felipe outside. "I know about the knife." "I swear I didn't do anything!" He doesn't know who is blackmailing him. He is confused when Isabel mentions Cristina: he doesn't know any Cristina Olmedo. And unless Isabel has money, she can't help him.
Ayala and Dogbert want to search the servants' rooms. Tere has authorized it. Room by room, bed by bed. Ayala personally searches under Julio's bed. (Didn't they just search this room on Friday?) Then he looks under Andres bed, and there's the knife, wrapped in a napkin. He looks at the Bible and smirks.
Andres is arrested at breakfast for Jimena's murder and Cristina's disappearance. Lupe excitedly informs Angela. Julio tries to vouch for Andres. Ayala explains that he found the knife in Andres' room. Angela is beyond mortified.
Next time: Angela threatens Tere: I'm going to tell the truth!
Isabel says the blackmailer was wearing a cloak from the hotel. Julio says the piano man wasn't even around the night of the "light party," so Diego is lying. Testily, Isa says Diego might be lying, but that doesn't mean he's a criminal.
Meanwhile, in the low-tech crime lab, Ayala tells Dagoberto that Cristina's uniform appears to have been soaked in water. (That reminds me - how come no one ever smells the ashes from the stove that Diego tried to burn it in?) If it was soaked in hot water, that means they tried to wash it. Soaking in cold water could mean someone fell into a pond.
Ayala breaks it down further for Dogbert: There's no halo like you'd see if the blood had already set in. That means the blood was fresh and the cold water washed away most of it.
Ayala has Dogbert dim the lights. Blood is easier to see by candlelight, Ayala explains. The stain is fairly round, which means the wound dripped slowly and didn't spray like you'd get from an arterial wound. This blood isn't from a stab wound. So we've got two kinds of weapons, which maybe means two different murderers. Ayala may be around for a while.
Genaro, the guy from the cantina, tells Ayala and Dogbert, "I can tell you who she was with the night she died."
Julio is making snotty, resentful remarks to Isabel about "you people" (as in, "you people think you can do no wrong"). Isabel reminds him that she's on his side. And, hey, it was a while before Diego started lying to her, but Julio started lying right away.
Stricken, Julio apologizes for involving Isabel in his problems and promises not to do it again.
Teresa is giving motherly advice to Sofia about Alfredo's mother's visit. Are you giving him "everything" he needs, Tere asks. Well... not during the... pregnancy... Sofia says. (Sofia can barely say the word... I don't see how she's going to fake a full-term pregnancy if she can't even say it.) Tere: You know, there are other "things" you can do for your husband. He's got too much energy. If he's happy, you won't have to worry about your MIL.
Sofi is worried her MIL will ask questions and trip her up. Tere says a woman's life is worthless without a man by her side, so she'd better get good at lying.
Garrido the goon has bad news for Diego: he didn't get the blackmailer, and he didn't get the money. Diego is really, really mad.
Julio asks Pascual about the button. Yes, Pascual admits to losing a button, but it was quite a while ago. Craftily, Julio says he heard the pond is very dangerous, and something happened to a maid at the pond the night of the light party. Pascual says he doesn't know anything about it and Julio should mind his own business.
Ayala informs Teresa he'll be staying at the hotel. "Oh, I doubt you can afford it on your salary." "You're right about that," he laughs. Anyway, Felipe is the prime suspect. Witnesses saw them together. Tere protests. Ayala says he's open to better information if she has any to share. He explains about the gold knife and the bloody uniform. Also, Felipe spends a lot of time at the cantina.
"That's all you've got?" Tere scoffs. "The cantina guy's word is better than my son's?" Sorry, Ayala says, but lately Felipe's word isn't worth much. In fact, did Tere know that last year he was arrested for "aggression"? (Felipe says he was defending a lady's honor. "Yeah, guess what kind of lady," Ayala says.) The witness at the bar might be miserable, but he's never been in jail, so his word is actually better than Felipe's. So Felipe's going downtown. Or is he? Felipe says he has a witness of his own.
Ayala asks Julio about the night Jimena was killed. They were together for a while. Felipe got in a fight, Julio helped him out and they left together and went straight to the hotel. Julio says Felipe was in no condition to harm anyone. Julio doesn't know where Jimena was after that.
Isabel confronts Diego over his lie about the piano man. That note wasn't for the maestro. Diego says he didn't want her to get involved. Reluctantly, then, he says the note was actually for Felipe. No, really. He's in deep trouble and someone wants to make him suffer. Diego wants Isabel to go to the arroyo crossing with him to look for clues.
Ayala asks Julio if Felipe mentioned anything to him about Cristina Olmedo's disappearance. Julio says he doesn't know who that is!
Privately, Felipe swears on his father's memory (which earns him a slap from his mother) that he doesn't know anything. Good thing Romulo didn't live long enough to see what his son has become, Tere says. And she's going to have someone clean his stinky pigpen of a room.
Andres warns Julio that Diego and Isabel just went to the stream crossing with Garrido. Julio hurries down to see.
Meanwhile, Natalia the maid is making Felipe's bed when she finds a broken gold knife under the mattress. She gives the knife to Angela. Angela tells her to forget she ever saw it, and tell no one, or she'll be fired.
At the arroyo, Isabel says she's sure the bagman was a man. They find a piece of cloth - and Isa finds a cufflink, which she hurriedly conceals without showing it to Diego.
Angela takes the knife to Tere. Angela assures her that no one else will find out about it. "Thank you for your discretion to the hotel and the family," Teresa says formally. Angela replies, there's no need to thank me. I don't do this for your benefit!
Natalia has already told Andres about the knife, and Andres is trying to cheer her up. Andres thinks she should tell the detective. Julio, freshly arrived, says don't tell anyone until he talks to Isabel first. She'll know what to do.
Later, Isabel is looking at the cufflink when she hears a very loud harmonica echoing up from the forest outside her window. She finds Julio in the woods. (No one else heard it?)
Julio and Isabel make up for their earlier spat. He says he followed her today to protect her from Diego. "Do you see the same thing in his eyes that you see in mine?" he asks. "Your soul." It gets a little warm there for a second. She changes the subject, giving him the cufflink. He recognizes it right away - it was their father's. One of the few fancy things they had. Mother gave it to Cristina in case she needed to sell it. Why did the blackmailer have it? Speaking of which, Isabel says, Diego is lying to protect Felipe. Julio tells her about the gold knife found in her bro's mattress.
From a distance, Benjamin sees Julio touching Isabel's arm. "She's very nice but don't let that confuse you," the older man counsels Julio. "We are servants, don't forget it."
Felipe meets again with Teresa. He swears up and down he doesn't know anything. "I know it looks bad, but I would never kill someone in cold blood!" He begs her on his knees. She coldly tells him to get off the floor, and slaps him a couple of times. She tries to give him a hint: As long as the knife isn't found, the case stays open, and someone will try to do this to him again. She hands him the knife and tells him to think.
Felipe's a little slow, so she gives him another hint: Let's give the police a suspect. Who? You figure it out. Next hint: Hide it in the servants room and get the police to search it. Relieved, he falls into her arms in gratitude. She half-hugs him for a second, then pushes him away impatiently.
Felipe sneaks into the room that Julio shares with Andres. He sees in Andres' Bible and smirks, hiding the knife under the mattress.
Belen and Julio are polishing silver. Julio shows her the cufflink. Says he finds it near her door. She doesn't seem to recognize it. Then he says it's gold and pearl. That seems to pique her interest. Oh yes, now she recognizes it. Yeah, right, Julio says. But seriously, if she can find the owner, find the other cufflink, they can sell them. Oh, now Belen remembers: they belonged to the girl she used to share her room with. She was supposed to sell them, but instead she gave them to her sweetie. Maybe he has the other one? Oh, and the sweetie, who was that? It was Pascual!
Isabel walks with Felipe outside. "I know about the knife." "I swear I didn't do anything!" He doesn't know who is blackmailing him. He is confused when Isabel mentions Cristina: he doesn't know any Cristina Olmedo. And unless Isabel has money, she can't help him.
Ayala and Dogbert want to search the servants' rooms. Tere has authorized it. Room by room, bed by bed. Ayala personally searches under Julio's bed. (Didn't they just search this room on Friday?) Then he looks under Andres bed, and there's the knife, wrapped in a napkin. He looks at the Bible and smirks.
Andres is arrested at breakfast for Jimena's murder and Cristina's disappearance. Lupe excitedly informs Angela. Julio tries to vouch for Andres. Ayala explains that he found the knife in Andres' room. Angela is beyond mortified.
Next time: Angela threatens Tere: I'm going to tell the truth!
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Whoo!! That was another busy one. The pace never seems to slow down on this thing. My fingertips are smoking!!
Whoo, is right! That was a packed episode, Julie, and you got all the facts, and quickly too! Fabulous job!
Just want to point out that Diego knew Isabel would follow his henchie, and henchie reported it to him. I knew he heard/saw her!
Pascual is looking more guilty all the time. First the button in the swimhole, then blackmail, and now the cufflink and rumor that he was Cristina's novio.
Can't say I feel sorry for Felipe being framed, when he was so willing to frame Andres without batting an eye (and even with some glee). I'm glad that Tere slapped him around a few times.
Just want to point out that Diego knew Isabel would follow his henchie, and henchie reported it to him. I knew he heard/saw her!
Pascual is looking more guilty all the time. First the button in the swimhole, then blackmail, and now the cufflink and rumor that he was Cristina's novio.
Can't say I feel sorry for Felipe being framed, when he was so willing to frame Andres without batting an eye (and even with some glee). I'm glad that Tere slapped him around a few times.
Thanks, Julie. Your recap was so good!
I am still enjoying Detective Ayala with his explanations for sidekick Dagoberto and us as well as his little rhyme tonight: "Caras vemos, corazones no sabemos." (We see their faces, we don't know about their hearts). I hope there are more little gems like this.
Teresa is so burdened by the useless blubbering Felipe. Vivi, I join you being happy she slapped him a couple of times. There have been a lot of slaps so far in the first 6 episodes with most being pretty wimpy.
Yes, that harmonica playing by Julio was indeed a "siren song" of sorts for Isabel. Cute.
I wonder how long it will be before Diego loses track of all the crappola he is spouting.
I am still enjoying Detective Ayala with his explanations for sidekick Dagoberto and us as well as his little rhyme tonight: "Caras vemos, corazones no sabemos." (We see their faces, we don't know about their hearts). I hope there are more little gems like this.
Teresa is so burdened by the useless blubbering Felipe. Vivi, I join you being happy she slapped him a couple of times. There have been a lot of slaps so far in the first 6 episodes with most being pretty wimpy.
Yes, that harmonica playing by Julio was indeed a "siren song" of sorts for Isabel. Cute.
I wonder how long it will be before Diego loses track of all the crappola he is spouting.
Julie- And to answer your question, yes, others can hear the harmonica. Just before we see Isa in her room, a young girl is seen walking along the hotel's exterior and she asks one of the passing staff what's that music and where's it coming from. But no one is bothered/intrigued enough by it to go searching for the source, I suppose.
Gracias, Julie. That was one action-packed episode.
The more I watch Diana Bracho and Daniela Romo in this one the more I'm seeing Bernarda Alba and La Poncia in their characters. There could come a day when Angela will turn on Dona Teresa and really let her have it and that day is coming fast.
What entitled #%&^$#s these people are to conveniently frame Andres for this disgusting crime.
Don't you just love watching Detective Ayala and his sidekick? Jesus Ochoa must be loving this role after playing the perverted banker in YNCELH. I can see the little grey cells working as Hercule Poirot tries to train a future Inspector Clouseau.
More later.
The more I watch Diana Bracho and Daniela Romo in this one the more I'm seeing Bernarda Alba and La Poncia in their characters. There could come a day when Angela will turn on Dona Teresa and really let her have it and that day is coming fast.
What entitled #%&^$#s these people are to conveniently frame Andres for this disgusting crime.
Don't you just love watching Detective Ayala and his sidekick? Jesus Ochoa must be loving this role after playing the perverted banker in YNCELH. I can see the little grey cells working as Hercule Poirot tries to train a future Inspector Clouseau.
More later.
Great recap Julie! Every episode is just jammed packed and you captured it all. I find myself staring at every facial expression and detail trying to figure this one out. Have to say, this one is keeping me awake!
I know there is a love story lurking with Jul-Bel, but right now I love the play between Ayala and his wide-eyed side kick. The music is always perfect with them and the CSI explanations are such fun--how they would analyze at those times. They remind me of the old cartoon with the big bruiser dog followed by the little terrier-type puppy that nervously keeps hopping along wanting to know what they will do. Those two are wonderful!
So Felipe is a tough one to figure out. He's a total loser, spoiled and aimless, but something seems to be lurking underneath that maybe he wasn't always that way and has some possible redemptive qualities. With a mother like he has, I can see why he was possibly messed up.
Poor Andres - he had scapegoat written all over him from day one. But don't mess with his momma!! Had a feeling there was some long held secret between these two formidable women. In a war between these two, definitely put my money on Angela.
Daisynjay
I know there is a love story lurking with Jul-Bel, but right now I love the play between Ayala and his wide-eyed side kick. The music is always perfect with them and the CSI explanations are such fun--how they would analyze at those times. They remind me of the old cartoon with the big bruiser dog followed by the little terrier-type puppy that nervously keeps hopping along wanting to know what they will do. Those two are wonderful!
So Felipe is a tough one to figure out. He's a total loser, spoiled and aimless, but something seems to be lurking underneath that maybe he wasn't always that way and has some possible redemptive qualities. With a mother like he has, I can see why he was possibly messed up.
Poor Andres - he had scapegoat written all over him from day one. But don't mess with his momma!! Had a feeling there was some long held secret between these two formidable women. In a war between these two, definitely put my money on Angela.
Daisynjay
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: Tuesday, February 2, 2016 at 8:52:00 AM EST
: Tuesday, February 2, 2016 at 8:52:00 AM EST
Does anyone else wish that Julio played something else other than a harmonica? I know it's correct to the period, cheap, and portable but I've never liked their sound.
I was astonished by the conversation between Teresa and Sonia. This was a period in which women of that world were not expected to enjoy sex. I can't imagine that Sonia will be able to keep up the pretense long enough to not be found out.
I was astonished by the conversation between Teresa and Sonia. This was a period in which women of that world were not expected to enjoy sex. I can't imagine that Sonia will be able to keep up the pretense long enough to not be found out.
I don't mind the harmonica. It has the same reedy sound as an accordion, which I like.
I didn't find the sex talk especially astonishing. Tere wasn't telling Sofia to enjoy sex; she was telling her to make sure he didn't search elsewhere for it. Whether Sofia enjoys it or not is irrelevant in Tere's mind. But I agree that if Sofi can't even say the word "pregnancy" around her mother, this is going to be an uphill battle.
On the other hand, with the buildup that Sofi's MIL is getting, and how wimpy Sofi and her husband are, I won't be surprised if she turns out to be the sweetest, nicest MIL the world has ever seen. (It is interesting, however, that Tere seems so desperate for her SIL to inherit. They must really be short on cash.)
I am also loving the detective. Everything about him cracks me up. It seems to me that he's really enjoying himself, sharing his wisdom with Dagoberto hanging onto every word, and getting under Teresa's skin. And of course, processing the evidence.
Seriously, though, didn't they already search Julio's room on Friday? I could have sworn they did. Why would they search it a second time? Or were they searching some other room last week?
Also, interesting that although Andres was looking very guilty last week staring at that cupboard where he'd hidden the stained uniform, there was no scene in which Ayala asked him if he knew anything about it (or did I miss it). I felt like something was missing there.
I don't know what to think about Felipe. I really don't think he's the killer, and Diego is looking better and better as our prime suspect.
But I'm still puzzled about the knife. It's not the kind of knife you'd carry if you were planning to murder someone. So it's as if someone swiped it just to have it, and then it was convenient to stab Jimena with. We know now that Belen likes gold - but she's worked at the hotel for years and she'd have been sacked by now if she were the stealing type. (Plus, sounds like she doesn't have access to the gold knives.)
I guess the bigger question is, what reason would anyone have for killing Jimena? And how do you tie that motive to any person who could have had the knife?
These rambling thoughts were brought to you by too much coffee and not enough sleep.
I didn't find the sex talk especially astonishing. Tere wasn't telling Sofia to enjoy sex; she was telling her to make sure he didn't search elsewhere for it. Whether Sofia enjoys it or not is irrelevant in Tere's mind. But I agree that if Sofi can't even say the word "pregnancy" around her mother, this is going to be an uphill battle.
On the other hand, with the buildup that Sofi's MIL is getting, and how wimpy Sofi and her husband are, I won't be surprised if she turns out to be the sweetest, nicest MIL the world has ever seen. (It is interesting, however, that Tere seems so desperate for her SIL to inherit. They must really be short on cash.)
I am also loving the detective. Everything about him cracks me up. It seems to me that he's really enjoying himself, sharing his wisdom with Dagoberto hanging onto every word, and getting under Teresa's skin. And of course, processing the evidence.
Seriously, though, didn't they already search Julio's room on Friday? I could have sworn they did. Why would they search it a second time? Or were they searching some other room last week?
Also, interesting that although Andres was looking very guilty last week staring at that cupboard where he'd hidden the stained uniform, there was no scene in which Ayala asked him if he knew anything about it (or did I miss it). I felt like something was missing there.
I don't know what to think about Felipe. I really don't think he's the killer, and Diego is looking better and better as our prime suspect.
But I'm still puzzled about the knife. It's not the kind of knife you'd carry if you were planning to murder someone. So it's as if someone swiped it just to have it, and then it was convenient to stab Jimena with. We know now that Belen likes gold - but she's worked at the hotel for years and she'd have been sacked by now if she were the stealing type. (Plus, sounds like she doesn't have access to the gold knives.)
I guess the bigger question is, what reason would anyone have for killing Jimena? And how do you tie that motive to any person who could have had the knife?
These rambling thoughts were brought to you by too much coffee and not enough sleep.
D'oh, I forgot the motive that came up last week: Jimena kind of looked like Cristina, especially in the dark. There's the motive, and it points directly to the person who harmed (didn't stab, according to Ayala) Cristina in the first place. And that brings us back to the hotel.
I don't know if that makes Pascual look worse, but I'm not sure if I buy Belen's story that he was Cristina's sweetie. (Remember, Belen was also convinced that Cristina got her promotion by fooling around with Diego, so Belen's idea of the truth might be a little warped.) You'd think Cristina would have mentioned a boyfriend in her letter to Julio, right?
I don't know if that makes Pascual look worse, but I'm not sure if I buy Belen's story that he was Cristina's sweetie. (Remember, Belen was also convinced that Cristina got her promotion by fooling around with Diego, so Belen's idea of the truth might be a little warped.) You'd think Cristina would have mentioned a boyfriend in her letter to Julio, right?
Honestly I can't imagine it would be easy to have a romantic relationship under those conditions. The hotel staff are paid a pittance, their supervision is only slightly more lenient than in a concentration camp, and they live in the building (That makes sense only because of the isolation). This reminds me of a statement in Upstairs Downstairs where Lady Marjorie said that they don't normally permit such relationships among their staff. The butler and the cook talked about the possibility of getting married after they retired from service. Gives me a headache.
Julie- Just because they searched the room before, doesn't mean the killer couldn't have been hiding the knife some other place the first time the police came, and then afterwards hid it in their room. I any case, I'm not sure Ayala is convinced Andres is the killer either. He seemed to believe in Andres' earnestness the first time he interviewed him. But the knife was under his bed, and the correct thing to do is to arrest him. But I also think Ayala is hoping/counting on some truth to shake out after he arrests Andres.
Thank you, Julie. It was certainly fast-paced. Hope your fingers are ok now. They did a fine job.
Isabel already knew Julio played the harmonica. Didn't he play it on the train and then again the night of the engagement. So she kinda knew he was calling her.
More later.
Isabel already knew Julio played the harmonica. Didn't he play it on the train and then again the night of the engagement. So she kinda knew he was calling her.
More later.
UA--I wondered if Felipe actually knew who slept in that room. I'm glad he chose Andres' bed (when he saw the Bible) rather than Julio's to hide the knife. Was he really thinking it through? Probably not. Andres has the powerful Angela behind him and Julio has no one, but Julio has helped Felipe out of a tight spot before and earned him some money.
I thought perhaps Felipe was happy to pick on Andres out of jealousy. Angela can be a bit stiff, but she's still a much better mother than Tere. And Andres did grow up at this hotel. In that way, he and Felipe are like brothers - or at at least like cousins who had ample opportunity to observe the contrasts in their upbringing. Andres may be a humble servant, but he also has a sense of family and belonging for which Felipe has very little frame of reference.
Wow Enoch--what splendid conjectures. I especially like the idea of Felipe being Angela's child. Sure would explain that comment and the fact that Teresa can't even bring herself to hug the poor guy. During that age, it was EVERYTHING to have a son versus daughters, yet she is cold to him. heck she shows more affection to Diego. You'll need a major CONGRATS! if that one works out.
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Permalink posted by : Tuesday, February 2, 2016 at 1:18:00 PM EST
: Tuesday, February 2, 2016 at 1:18:00 PM EST
Andres is also gorgeous. If there is any upward mobility in this era he has the looks and intelligence to do it.
Felipe is a lazy sot.
Felipe is a lazy sot.
Enoch, I'm not sure if I agree with all of your conclusions, but you're right that there seems to be no way these three siblings can be full-blooded siblings. Sofia and Felipe are both kind of helpless and clingy. With the fond way people speak of Romulo, I doubt that they take after him. They don't seem to take after their mother either.
On the other hand, Tere does take care of them in her own cold-blooded way, which I don't think she'd have the stomach for if they weren't her own. So perhaps their father was someone else... but... how could Tere bear to be around such a passive man (assuming he was clingy and helpless like Sofi and Felipe) long enough to produce two children with him?
On the other hand, Tere does take care of them in her own cold-blooded way, which I don't think she'd have the stomach for if they weren't her own. So perhaps their father was someone else... but... how could Tere bear to be around such a passive man (assuming he was clingy and helpless like Sofi and Felipe) long enough to produce two children with him?
Enoch--I think it's still a little early to be speculating on blood-ties. Your cross-breeding sounds very complicated. I'm sure it will come up en su debido tiempo.
From the one flashback we have seen of Don Romulo when he spoke with Isabel in the study, he seemed like stand-up guy-- strongly supportive of his daughter's education and ambitions to be a doctor, and didn't look like a weakling at all.
Isabel mentioned to Felipe how they and Andres used to play in the pond as children. The fact that he has known Andres that long, and was friends with him as a child, yet has no remorse about framing him for murder, is quite disturbing.
Isabel mentioned to Felipe how they and Andres used to play in the pond as children. The fact that he has known Andres that long, and was friends with him as a child, yet has no remorse about framing him for murder, is quite disturbing.
Julie--it was a different era. Tere probably had to submit to the same advice she was giving Sofia. We do know, anecdotally, that in times past (including Victorian) men AND women in the upper classes, preferred liaisons with the woman being married, in case there was a "slip up."
Here's the High Points/Low Points list for the premiere week (can't believe it's only been on a week and a day--so much has happened already!).
High Points:
Good period accuracy production.
Likeable leads.
The train ride (I’ve always wanted to do that).
Unusual character names.
Julio playing the harmonica.
Cristina running as the new lights light up one-by-one (the situ is a low point, but the visuals are stunning).
Andres to help Julio.
Isabel’s reception.
Julio finds Cristina’s letters, diary and a key.
Isabel/Julio train conversation on the balcony.
Felipe’s entrance.
Alberto calls Sofia “mi amore”—so he does love her.
Angela and Julio to the rescue.
Angela and Lupe bicker (so cute).
Isa and Julio clear the air.
Julio tells Isa about his sister.
Detective Ayala introduction.
Isa gets a clue—pond scum.
Lots ‘o dogs.
Isa “not” peeking at a shirtless Julio.
Julio finds a button from a hotel uniform in the pond.
Belen/Andres scene with the dogs (if she’s sincere).
Pascual blackmails Diego.
Bro hug between Andres and Julio (Julio actually seems happy for a few seconds).
Isa/Julio almost kiss.
Andres tells Diego he brought Isa to doctor Julio.
Dogs in the bedroom.
Isa stands up to Diego.
Diego going in for a kiss and Isa lowering her head so he has to kiss her forehead.
Ayala is empathetic.
Sofia/Felipe fighting.
Ayala not cowed by Teresa—or anybody, for that matter.
Violeta and Jacinto’s near misses.
Julio walking in on a half-dressed Isa.
Isa offers her friendship and help.
Isa finds out Pascual was promoted after Cristina left.
Andres hides the bloody clothes.
One suspect is eliminated-Maestro.
Low Points:
Cristina knows a secret.
Cristina is missing/dead.
Cristina is threatened by a knife (flashback).
Diego and Belen.
Diego is a skunk.
Teresa is a bitch to Sofia.
Isabel’s mother guilts her into accepting the skunk’s proposal.
Alfredo gets bad news.
Pregnant Violeta forced into prostitution by her slut mother.
Bloody Cristina blouse.
Isa finds out Julio is not a registered guest (ruh roh).
Sofia take a header down the stairs.
Doctor is dismissive of Isa.
Julio finds his sister’s blood stained clothes.
Sofia has lost her baby and can’t have another.
Sofia’s mother tells her to lie about it to keep Alberto from leaving (we find out later he needs a child to get his inheritance).
Julio loses his sister’s picture.
Belen is pregnant.
Andres says he’s the father of Belen’s baby.
Ximena is found dead.
Genaro blackmails Felipe.
Isa confronts Julio for being an inposter.
Teresa offers Belen a job in exchange for her baby.
Felipe forces Julio to fight by firing employees each time he refuses.
Felipe wants Julio to take a dive (Andres has bet all his engagement ring money on Julio).
Julio throws the fight.
Diego snows Isa.
Belen/Andres display in the kitchen (we’re eating here!)
Sofia’s suegra is coming for a visit.
As noted above, we learn that Alfredo won’t get his inheritance until he fathers a child (I’m surprised the old geezer didn’t stipulate MALE child).
Andres/Belen engaged (this would be high point if I could be sure she’s sincere).
Andres makes it obvious he’s hiding something.
Isa knocks herself out (doofus).
High Points:
Good period accuracy production.
Likeable leads.
The train ride (I’ve always wanted to do that).
Unusual character names.
Julio playing the harmonica.
Cristina running as the new lights light up one-by-one (the situ is a low point, but the visuals are stunning).
Andres to help Julio.
Isabel’s reception.
Julio finds Cristina’s letters, diary and a key.
Isabel/Julio train conversation on the balcony.
Felipe’s entrance.
Alberto calls Sofia “mi amore”—so he does love her.
Angela and Julio to the rescue.
Angela and Lupe bicker (so cute).
Isa and Julio clear the air.
Julio tells Isa about his sister.
Detective Ayala introduction.
Isa gets a clue—pond scum.
Lots ‘o dogs.
Isa “not” peeking at a shirtless Julio.
Julio finds a button from a hotel uniform in the pond.
Belen/Andres scene with the dogs (if she’s sincere).
Pascual blackmails Diego.
Bro hug between Andres and Julio (Julio actually seems happy for a few seconds).
Isa/Julio almost kiss.
Andres tells Diego he brought Isa to doctor Julio.
Dogs in the bedroom.
Isa stands up to Diego.
Diego going in for a kiss and Isa lowering her head so he has to kiss her forehead.
Ayala is empathetic.
Sofia/Felipe fighting.
Ayala not cowed by Teresa—or anybody, for that matter.
Violeta and Jacinto’s near misses.
Julio walking in on a half-dressed Isa.
Isa offers her friendship and help.
Isa finds out Pascual was promoted after Cristina left.
Andres hides the bloody clothes.
One suspect is eliminated-Maestro.
Low Points:
Cristina knows a secret.
Cristina is missing/dead.
Cristina is threatened by a knife (flashback).
Diego and Belen.
Diego is a skunk.
Teresa is a bitch to Sofia.
Isabel’s mother guilts her into accepting the skunk’s proposal.
Alfredo gets bad news.
Pregnant Violeta forced into prostitution by her slut mother.
Bloody Cristina blouse.
Isa finds out Julio is not a registered guest (ruh roh).
Sofia take a header down the stairs.
Doctor is dismissive of Isa.
Julio finds his sister’s blood stained clothes.
Sofia has lost her baby and can’t have another.
Sofia’s mother tells her to lie about it to keep Alberto from leaving (we find out later he needs a child to get his inheritance).
Julio loses his sister’s picture.
Belen is pregnant.
Andres says he’s the father of Belen’s baby.
Ximena is found dead.
Genaro blackmails Felipe.
Isa confronts Julio for being an inposter.
Teresa offers Belen a job in exchange for her baby.
Felipe forces Julio to fight by firing employees each time he refuses.
Felipe wants Julio to take a dive (Andres has bet all his engagement ring money on Julio).
Julio throws the fight.
Diego snows Isa.
Belen/Andres display in the kitchen (we’re eating here!)
Sofia’s suegra is coming for a visit.
As noted above, we learn that Alfredo won’t get his inheritance until he fathers a child (I’m surprised the old geezer didn’t stipulate MALE child).
Andres/Belen engaged (this would be high point if I could be sure she’s sincere).
Andres makes it obvious he’s hiding something.
Isa knocks herself out (doofus).
As our friend Cynderella over on P&P said-- "Mama's baby, daddy's maybe." First time I've ever heard that, but up till the invention of paternity tests, I'm sure there are plenty of cases, in many family trees, where a married woman passed off a lover's child as their husband's (she herself probably didn't know for sure).
Nanette- Thank you SO much, amiga! Good reminder of everything that's happened, and I think we'll need it for this tn. For example, we still have no idea what the key among Cristina's hidden things opens. And has Julio actually taken the time to read her diary, or is he not reading it so as not to be intrusive?
This is only sort of OT. I just listened to an Public Radio piece on Touch (the Diane Rhem Show). The author (David Linden: Touch: The Science of Hand, Heart, and Mind) that was being interviewed mentioned that in a not so long ago era, there was a philosophy of not coddling your children. Parents were told to refrain from showing affection physically and if a reward was merited, a pat on the head was sufficient. Just take note of the Downton Abbey children, who spend most of their days with nannies and "visit" their parents once a day--maybe. Well, their case is very unusual since all three children are missing one parent a piece.
I see Dona Teresa coming from that school, or just being an uptight woman.
I also heard another piece recently about how different children are even in the same family. We've all heard about birth order, but this had a slightly different twist. It's not just the birth order, but the stage of the parents. Each child is actually born into a "different" family.
The example used was a first-born whose parents were immigrants, lived in a tenement, worked hard to establish themselves and give their children a better life, to the last-born child whose parents by this time had a successful business that afforded them a house in a low-density neighborhood and other privileges. The first-borns went to the local colleges and lived at home, the last-born got to go away to college.
Same parents, different children. I could apply that to the adult children over on Pasion y Poder (where I'm going next....)
I see Dona Teresa coming from that school, or just being an uptight woman.
I also heard another piece recently about how different children are even in the same family. We've all heard about birth order, but this had a slightly different twist. It's not just the birth order, but the stage of the parents. Each child is actually born into a "different" family.
The example used was a first-born whose parents were immigrants, lived in a tenement, worked hard to establish themselves and give their children a better life, to the last-born child whose parents by this time had a successful business that afforded them a house in a low-density neighborhood and other privileges. The first-borns went to the local colleges and lived at home, the last-born got to go away to college.
Same parents, different children. I could apply that to the adult children over on Pasion y Poder (where I'm going next....)
Jeez. It's only been a week, and I'd already forgotten about the key and the diary. I sure hope Julio hasn't forgotten! (He probably hasn't had much time to read lately, what with all his hobbies.)
Is the birth order here Sofia-Felipe-Isabel?
Anita- I agree that each child, even born to the same parents, is born into a different family. A child born first, to financially struggling parents in their early 20s, is going to have a different experience than the third child born to those same parents when they are in their 30s and more established financially. It’s a totally different family—more mature parents, other kids, different family issues/worries, probably even a different house.
Anita- I agree that each child, even born to the same parents, is born into a different family. A child born first, to financially struggling parents in their early 20s, is going to have a different experience than the third child born to those same parents when they are in their 30s and more established financially. It’s a totally different family—more mature parents, other kids, different family issues/worries, probably even a different house.
I'm not sure that the parental lifestage thing applies to the "children" of PyP. They're too close in age and the parents were already wealthy for the firstborns.
As to Sonia and Felipe being weak and clingy, that often happens with critical, control-freak mothers like Teresa. They criticize every little thing, question their kids' strength, confidence, etc., until they begin to doubt themselves and screw up.
As to Sonia and Felipe being weak and clingy, that often happens with critical, control-freak mothers like Teresa. They criticize every little thing, question their kids' strength, confidence, etc., until they begin to doubt themselves and screw up.
This novela is very interesting. Thank you Julie for being so detailed with the recap. I often don't understand the wisdom that comes from Jesus Ochoa's tongue so your help is appreciated. Now for some venting and judging just like every ordinary day.
Felipe: I am pissed that he avoids responsibility by putting it on others and that he is a liar . I know that Teresa pretty much made everyone's life an gazing inferno but atleast Isabel got over it but this happened mainly because of her dad. He could get redeemed but he is pretty much a wildcard just like Dimitrio ( Osvaldo Bonavides from Lo Que La Vida Me Robo) or Fofito ( Fernando Valencia , LQVMR) . He is one of the few reasons why I am watching the novela everyday.
Sofia: Sofia just has no backbone at all and Teresa the SheDevil isn't much of a help. She is pretty much powerless in position but in the end it is always better to tell the hurtful truth than hide behind thousand faked smiles . I know this well from personal experiences... Sofia and Alfredo are pretty much in freefall as of now. As a fan I am kind of dissapointed in Dominika's character because she often kicks heavy butt in her other roles . I suppose the others who watched her role as the protagonist in Maniana Es Para Siempre as Liliana know better than me because the role was equally depressing as it is now as "Sofia" .
Angela: Angela pretty much serves the SheDevil for reasons that are in speculation but are as of now completely unknown to us. I wonder how long it will take until she cracks under this massive air of pressure in Gran Manicomio. Atleast she is a better mother than Shedevil that's for sure. I was wondering if Daniela Romo again plays a Christian in this show, is that her real religion? You can just never unsee Daniela Romo praying to the choir wishing hellfire on her enemies can you?
Diego : Diego is pretty much a confirmed pathological liar but Isabel is impulsive and will most likely dig out the truth either way. Honestly Diego is suspect number one for me because of his various attempts to void the investigation because normally the ones who try to hide stuff to no end have the most to do with it.
Julio : I don't know what to say about Julio really. I thought that he was more clever and astute instead of picking enemies that he cannot win against . He is just arousing more and more suspicion around himself . To save himself from it he needs to get clean with Ayala y punto mainly because the detective has high acute working braincells. The bloody damn Julio has now even got Teresa's unwanted attention . I would not hire Julio as an FBI Agent in my lifetime. He would blow the cover Day One on a teaparty!
Felipe: I am pissed that he avoids responsibility by putting it on others and that he is a liar . I know that Teresa pretty much made everyone's life an gazing inferno but atleast Isabel got over it but this happened mainly because of her dad. He could get redeemed but he is pretty much a wildcard just like Dimitrio ( Osvaldo Bonavides from Lo Que La Vida Me Robo) or Fofito ( Fernando Valencia , LQVMR) . He is one of the few reasons why I am watching the novela everyday.
Sofia: Sofia just has no backbone at all and Teresa the SheDevil isn't much of a help. She is pretty much powerless in position but in the end it is always better to tell the hurtful truth than hide behind thousand faked smiles . I know this well from personal experiences... Sofia and Alfredo are pretty much in freefall as of now. As a fan I am kind of dissapointed in Dominika's character because she often kicks heavy butt in her other roles . I suppose the others who watched her role as the protagonist in Maniana Es Para Siempre as Liliana know better than me because the role was equally depressing as it is now as "Sofia" .
Angela: Angela pretty much serves the SheDevil for reasons that are in speculation but are as of now completely unknown to us. I wonder how long it will take until she cracks under this massive air of pressure in Gran Manicomio. Atleast she is a better mother than Shedevil that's for sure. I was wondering if Daniela Romo again plays a Christian in this show, is that her real religion? You can just never unsee Daniela Romo praying to the choir wishing hellfire on her enemies can you?
Diego : Diego is pretty much a confirmed pathological liar but Isabel is impulsive and will most likely dig out the truth either way. Honestly Diego is suspect number one for me because of his various attempts to void the investigation because normally the ones who try to hide stuff to no end have the most to do with it.
Julio : I don't know what to say about Julio really. I thought that he was more clever and astute instead of picking enemies that he cannot win against . He is just arousing more and more suspicion around himself . To save himself from it he needs to get clean with Ayala y punto mainly because the detective has high acute working braincells. The bloody damn Julio has now even got Teresa's unwanted attention . I would not hire Julio as an FBI Agent in my lifetime. He would blow the cover Day One on a teaparty!
As for Isabel , she is pretty much the same as Julio. Digging after things on her own is going to smash her. Diego is too obsessed to kill Isabel over her meddling in his games but he definetly has the killer intent to go after the people she loves and cares about. Both Julio and Isabel need serious spying lessons .
I like Julio, but when it comes to sleuthing, he has no subtlety whatsoever. He's worse than Isabel, because Isabel knows better than to try to be subtle with Diego. Julio's clumsy questioning of Pascual and Belen should be raising all kinds of alarm bells.
Julie: thanks for the great recap. I rely heavily on the recaps/comments to make my lists.
Vivi: so glad you like the lists.
Anita: hope you enjoy.
Count: good to be watching the same TN again. It's been awhile.
Remember, the lists were originally conceived for discussion: please feel free to mention things you'd like to have seen on the lists or disagree with items that are there. I'm glad it's also useful as a review of the past week.
Nanette
Vivi: so glad you like the lists.
Anita: hope you enjoy.
Count: good to be watching the same TN again. It's been awhile.
Remember, the lists were originally conceived for discussion: please feel free to mention things you'd like to have seen on the lists or disagree with items that are there. I'm glad it's also useful as a review of the past week.
Nanette
Thank you Julie, great job. I thought the sex talk was sort of funny. I don't see how Sofia is going to carry this off. She's much too nervous. And I don't know how she will continue to have sex with Alfredo and keep the lack of pregnancy a secret for very long.
I don't think Filipe did it. I think he's being framed. We know that Pascual put the letter in Diego's office. He may have put the knife under Filipe's bed too, but I'm guessing that did it and that Diego is the main killer, or hired a killer, and Pascual knows what Diego did and decided to make a few dollars off of his knowledge. But why? Perhaps Filipe is in line to inherit the hotel, but if Filipe were in jail, then Diego would be the inheritor being the new SIL and the one who got the job over Alfonso.
I don't think Filipe did it. I think he's being framed. We know that Pascual put the letter in Diego's office. He may have put the knife under Filipe's bed too, but I'm guessing that did it and that Diego is the main killer, or hired a killer, and Pascual knows what Diego did and decided to make a few dollars off of his knowledge. But why? Perhaps Filipe is in line to inherit the hotel, but if Filipe were in jail, then Diego would be the inheritor being the new SIL and the one who got the job over Alfonso.
Nanette--I did. Just finished. Thank you. Good to have your Hi-Lo's as a quick reference guide each week. Lord knows we need it with all that goes on in this novela at such a fast pace.
That was indeed a very loud música de boca (harmonica). It has been muy molesta (annoying) since day one, but this time all the way from Isabel's bedroom to the middle of el bosque (the woods), I was expecting to see the altavoces (speakers).
Also, I am no expert, but being the ''rules'' so strict in this hotel, I refuse to believe that Julio can keep his designer beard, because for me, that makes him look unclean. No rings, no jewelry, yes 5 o'clock shadow? C'mon!
Also, I am no expert, but being the ''rules'' so strict in this hotel, I refuse to believe that Julio can keep his designer beard, because for me, that makes him look unclean. No rings, no jewelry, yes 5 o'clock shadow? C'mon!
Permalink posted by : Tuesday, February 2, 2016 at 7:33:00 PM EST
: Tuesday, February 2, 2016 at 7:33:00 PM EST
Pablo, you're right. Julio needs to be completely clean-shaven for this job during this historical period.
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