Tuesday, February 09, 2016
Pasion y Poder #83 20160208 Julia Shriver Learns the Truth!
- Connie and Miguel are on the phone whispering sweet nothings to one another. Connie asks Miguel what TMZ had to say about her. Miggie won't tell. He tells her that he loves her and kisses to the baby.
- After they hang up, Connie is visited by Dani. Dani asks to be the godmother. Connie says hell no in a nice way. Her kid's will be sober and have morals. Anyway, Connie was thinking of asking Gina. Dani says that Connie should reconsider because Art would never allow Dave to be the godfather.
- Speaking of no morals, Dave and Gina enter the hospital room and announce that they have decided to live together in sin in Monterrey. They have a heavy groping session in front of the new mother and Dani. I surprised that they didn't ask Connie to move over in the hospital bed so that they could really get it on. Geez. Connie tells the couple that she is considering who should be the godparents. Gina tells her to make sure that godparents will put the child first or something like that. Dani leaves.
- Out in the hallway, Ashmore finds Dani crying because Connie won't let her corrupt the baby. Ashmore hugs her and asks if she would like to go out drinking. Dani says yes and later, that night, they pop some pills together at the Rave.
- Julia Shriver asks Eladio Schwarzenegger if he is Franco's father. He admits it after she tells him to take a Deny Natal Accusations test. Anyways, she slaps him around a bit. Surprisingly, he resists the urge to punch her back. When Gaby and Franco come in, Eladio tells Julia that Gaby and Franco didn't know anything about this. Franco pretends that this is the first time that he's ever heard that Eladio is his father. He grabs Eladio's suit and asks why Eladio kept it a secret.
- · Franco pulls Gaby out of the room with him as Julia continues to smack Eladio around. Eladio begs her not to tell Dave or at least give him a few days to come up with a good lie. Eladio defends himself by saying he cheated on her because at the time he thought she was a big cheatin’ hooah that was preggers by another man. Julia is all upset because this revelation comes at a bad time for her. She really does love Eladio. Eladio is shocked.· In the bedroom, Gaby wants to tell the ENTIRE truth. Franco tells her that they should continue acting like they knew nothing, heard nothing and saw nothing about his conception. Eladio has managed to escape from Julia and comes into the room. Everyone must keep the lie going. He is doing this to protect them. If Julia finds out that they knew, she will hate them as well. That will mean slaps and punches for everyone. After Eladio leaves Franco reinforces what Eladio just said. Gaby tells Franco that she would like him to hold off on impregnating her. Her aunt is upset and she needs to be with her at this time. Franco wants to impregnate her immediately. Gaby tells Franco that she could never forgive him if he had a kid with someone else. Franco agrees.· Back at the hospital, Julia and Dave have taken the groping show on the road. Art spots them in the receptionist area and almost vomits. Dave tells Art that he and Gina have decided to live in sin. They will be moving in together. Art tells Gina that Dave doesn’t love or respect her. Otherwise, he would marry her. Art tells Gina to pick today between him and Dave. This is a hard choice…..pick your rich dad who can disinherit you, but cannot boink with you or you can pick your rich boyfriend who you can boink with, but he’s probably going to knock you up and leave you for a younger version twenty years from now. Hmmmmmm. She chooses to boink.· Gina and Dave and he tries to cheer her up. Julia calls, but Dave cannot hear the sorrow in her voice. He says that he will stop by in the morning.· Gaby goes into to Julia’s room and asks her to talk to Franco. Julia says no can do. She finds his very presence revolting. Gaby tells Julia that it’s not Franco’s fault that he was born. Julia’s not trying to hear all that.· Out in the hallway, Eladio confesses to Humberto that Franco is his spawn. Humberto pretends to be shocked. He tells Eladio that he will speak to Julia and ask her to stay with Eladio because he is a good man.· Art tells Augie that the Schwarzeneggers will be getting a divorce soon. Franco is actually Eladio’s spawn. Augie is concerned for Gaby, but yet he doesn’t take off his shirt. Hmmmmm.· And now….for the bestest ever part of the show. Humberto rolls into Julia’s room on his hover chair. Julia tells him that he was right. Humberto tells her that he suspected that Franco was Eladio’s kid, but he had not proof. No one would listen to him. He will now support her in whatever decision that she makes. He encourages her to leave that bum who has deceived and manipulated her for the past twenty-five years. He would like for her to make the decision quickly because the grand opening of his casino cannot be delayed any longer. He hugs her and I think he manages a fake tear or two. Humberto tells Julia to find out about more about Franco's mother. If Eladio says that she dead, he's probably lying because his lips are moving. Oh yes, and he reminds her that Franco is a loser. Finally, Julia asks to be alone so she can cry.I may have missed some stuff because I did this from memory. Let me know with a gentle reminder and I will add some stuff in. Peace.
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Cynderella, looking forward to your recap. Hummy is awesome indeed, the smoothest liar of all the baddies. Experience does mean a lot.
Thanks Cynderella. Great title.
Yeah, Hummy was good last night. Telling Eladio he'd do one thing, then doing the opposite. He's so despicable.
Whar?! Daniela and Assmore?!
Yeah, Hummy was good last night. Telling Eladio he'd do one thing, then doing the opposite. He's so despicable.
Whar?! Daniela and Assmore?!
Who wants to bet me that Humberto will live just long enough to leech off of Julia herself while trying to get dinero out of Arturo at the same time? I'm sure that will be his next plan.
Assmore is turning out to be a dirty old man. I'me sure that Daniela is younger than his own daughter. He may also try to use her to spy on GLA (not that she's smart enough). However, this is the contract violation we've been waiting for. Something bad will happen as a result of the drugs or maybe the gutter press will follow them back to Assmore's hotel for some dirty pictures. If that happens, Arturo will go on the warpath and the resulting scandal will cost him big.
Assmore is turning out to be a dirty old man. I'me sure that Daniela is younger than his own daughter. He may also try to use her to spy on GLA (not that she's smart enough). However, this is the contract violation we've been waiting for. Something bad will happen as a result of the drugs or maybe the gutter press will follow them back to Assmore's hotel for some dirty pictures. If that happens, Arturo will go on the warpath and the resulting scandal will cost him big.
Looking forward to it, Cyn!
Hooking up with Assmore is Daniela's most desperate cry for attention yet (worse than the near dead guy in the hotel). Blech! She WANTS to be caught by daddy, so that some of his attention will be directed towards her. And won't Arturo feel like a fool for wasting all this hot air and effort trying to get Gina to break up with her respectable and age-appropriate boyfriend, when Dani may be having a fling with his slimy and decrepit business partner.
The scenes between Julia and Eladio were painful and excellent. Humberto playing both Julia and Eladio was masterful.
Hooking up with Assmore is Daniela's most desperate cry for attention yet (worse than the near dead guy in the hotel). Blech! She WANTS to be caught by daddy, so that some of his attention will be directed towards her. And won't Arturo feel like a fool for wasting all this hot air and effort trying to get Gina to break up with her respectable and age-appropriate boyfriend, when Dani may be having a fling with his slimy and decrepit business partner.
The scenes between Julia and Eladio were painful and excellent. Humberto playing both Julia and Eladio was masterful.
What an episode! Can't wait for your take on the action, Cynderella! As for Humberto, I'm such a big fan, I changed my avatar in honor of that vile conniving SOB!
FC is working hard for that Oscar! I see you, baby! Caray what a performance! He and SG stole the show last night and delivered a truly heart-wrenching episode! I had a lump in my throat the whole time they were onscreen... By the time Eladio started pleading with Julia to give him a few days to find a way of telling David and she left him there crying his eyes out, I felt emotionally exhausted and almost as devastated as they were!
I can’t believe Eladio covered for Franco and Gabi... with yet another lie! Whaaaat? Dude, don’t you learn? If I were him, I wouldn’t have covered for anybody. Screw them, mooching leeching pretenders! If I’m going down, I’m taking everybody down with me! :D
On a lighter note, it looks like Daniela’s first anvil has been delivered and it’s disguised as a middle-aged Spanglish-speaking crooked businessman: Ashmorrrrrre! Ha! Seeing the odd couple shake their moneymakers at the club brought to mind this party anthem from my uni days: “Take Me Out” by “Franz Ferdinand” (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GhCXAiNz9Jo). “Take Your Mama” by "Scissor Sisters" (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=od7-fyGa9DQ) was another hit from that academic year 2004/2005. Qué recuerdos tan lindos! We worked hard and played harder, without the need for any of those pills Daniela can’t seem to stop popping!
Arturo was being an insufferable arse as usual, nothing new there, so I’ll spare you the rant.
Catch you guys later! Que tengan un buen día!
FC is working hard for that Oscar! I see you, baby! Caray what a performance! He and SG stole the show last night and delivered a truly heart-wrenching episode! I had a lump in my throat the whole time they were onscreen... By the time Eladio started pleading with Julia to give him a few days to find a way of telling David and she left him there crying his eyes out, I felt emotionally exhausted and almost as devastated as they were!
I can’t believe Eladio covered for Franco and Gabi... with yet another lie! Whaaaat? Dude, don’t you learn? If I were him, I wouldn’t have covered for anybody. Screw them, mooching leeching pretenders! If I’m going down, I’m taking everybody down with me! :D
On a lighter note, it looks like Daniela’s first anvil has been delivered and it’s disguised as a middle-aged Spanglish-speaking crooked businessman: Ashmorrrrrre! Ha! Seeing the odd couple shake their moneymakers at the club brought to mind this party anthem from my uni days: “Take Me Out” by “Franz Ferdinand” (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GhCXAiNz9Jo). “Take Your Mama” by "Scissor Sisters" (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=od7-fyGa9DQ) was another hit from that academic year 2004/2005. Qué recuerdos tan lindos! We worked hard and played harder, without the need for any of those pills Daniela can’t seem to stop popping!
Arturo was being an insufferable arse as usual, nothing new there, so I’ll spare you the rant.
Catch you guys later! Que tengan un buen día!
-- A quote from the capítulo --
“¿Y con esa desfachatez me lo dices? ¡Es el colmo del cinismo, Eladio!” *
An exhausted and all cried-out Eladio tells Humberto that Franco is his son, so Mr. Plague-On-Wheels acts all offended and starts berating him: “And you’re saying it to me with such shamelessness? It’s the height of chutzpah, Eladio!” It’s in moments like this one, confronted with jerks like this one, that my favorite Scottish expression comes in handy. “Awa’ an’ bile yer heid!” is Scots for “Get lost!” and it literally means “Go away and boil your head!” :D
Desfachatez = shamelessness, effrontery, impertinence, chutzpah.
Ser el colmo de... = to be the height of..., to be the epitome of..., to take the cake for...
Cinismo = in this context, it has the same meaning as desfachatez. Other synonyms are : desvergüenza, descaro, insolencia, caradura
“¿Y con esa desfachatez me lo dices? ¡Es el colmo del cinismo, Eladio!” *
An exhausted and all cried-out Eladio tells Humberto that Franco is his son, so Mr. Plague-On-Wheels acts all offended and starts berating him: “And you’re saying it to me with such shamelessness? It’s the height of chutzpah, Eladio!” It’s in moments like this one, confronted with jerks like this one, that my favorite Scottish expression comes in handy. “Awa’ an’ bile yer heid!” is Scots for “Get lost!” and it literally means “Go away and boil your head!” :D
Desfachatez = shamelessness, effrontery, impertinence, chutzpah.
Ser el colmo de... = to be the height of..., to be the epitome of..., to take the cake for...
Cinismo = in this context, it has the same meaning as desfachatez. Other synonyms are : desvergüenza, descaro, insolencia, caradura
One of the worst things about this is that Regina, David, and Augustin are going to regret not having told Arturo about the hotel incident. It's possible that Daniela's plea to keep mum about this was faux because of her certainty that they would rat her out.
I have to say that if there was ever a good time for Daniela (from her perspective) to be caught and "rescued" by Daddy, it's now. He's peeved with Regina for sleeping with the enemy's son (whom he had previously approved of) and has lost his perspective on Erick/Consuelo/Miguel. We don't know the peso figure in her contract's liability clause, but it has to be several times her annual salary. I doubt that's normal in the real world, but Eladio doesn't play by the rest of the world's rules. Arturo may pay that figure so as to not make the scandal any worse, but he will be livid after that.
How is he going to find out about the gossip rag's story about the family triangle? Right now the only way I can see him finding out is to pass an open door in the mansion and hear Nina and her Mini-Me gloating about it.
Julia reacted to this revelation exactly as I predicted. What I didn't see coming was how Eladio created yet another lie about when the "kids" knew. That Franco picked up on his vibe so quickly was no surprise because these two are the same inside. The question from here is whether Gabriela will change her mind and come clean to Julia.
BTW, I disagree about Gabriela being a freeloader. She was emotionally valuable to Julia all these years in ways that Simona couldn't be. Without her Julia might have leaped off the balcony.
Finally, kudos to SG and LB's performances in this episode.
I have to say that if there was ever a good time for Daniela (from her perspective) to be caught and "rescued" by Daddy, it's now. He's peeved with Regina for sleeping with the enemy's son (whom he had previously approved of) and has lost his perspective on Erick/Consuelo/Miguel. We don't know the peso figure in her contract's liability clause, but it has to be several times her annual salary. I doubt that's normal in the real world, but Eladio doesn't play by the rest of the world's rules. Arturo may pay that figure so as to not make the scandal any worse, but he will be livid after that.
How is he going to find out about the gossip rag's story about the family triangle? Right now the only way I can see him finding out is to pass an open door in the mansion and hear Nina and her Mini-Me gloating about it.
Julia reacted to this revelation exactly as I predicted. What I didn't see coming was how Eladio created yet another lie about when the "kids" knew. That Franco picked up on his vibe so quickly was no surprise because these two are the same inside. The question from here is whether Gabriela will change her mind and come clean to Julia.
BTW, I disagree about Gabriela being a freeloader. She was emotionally valuable to Julia all these years in ways that Simona couldn't be. Without her Julia might have leaped off the balcony.
Finally, kudos to SG and LB's performances in this episode.
Dani needs to realize that it's not all about her. She's pouty because Consuelo wants to ask Regina to be the godmother when she & Nina discussed earlier about how Consuelo would probably ask Regina to be the godmother, and it's logical because of the Montenegro women, Consuelo's been closest to Regina.
Also, Consuelo DID say that perhaps Dani could ALSO be a godmother, too. Consuelo didn't close the door on Dani being a godmother to Erick Jr.
Did Assmore give Dani the pills or did Dani give Assmore the pills? Who had the pills first?
If Assmore screws over Arturo through Daniela, I can't feel sorry for Arturo. He knew Assmore was shady from the git go. But I'm sure Arturo will blame any fallout on Eladio. But Eladio didn't make Arturo do shady deals with Assmore or put secret money in Assmore's account.
Assmore is playing games and Daniela will be the loser...but this is what happens when you're Scrappy Doo trying to play with a pack of pit bulls.
I should NOT be rooting for the villain but I'm rooting for Eladio. And he DIDN'T have to cover for Gabriela & Franco...so I'm wondering why he did that.
Looks like Julia is going to open a can of whoop ass on Caridad tonight.
Also, Consuelo DID say that perhaps Dani could ALSO be a godmother, too. Consuelo didn't close the door on Dani being a godmother to Erick Jr.
Did Assmore give Dani the pills or did Dani give Assmore the pills? Who had the pills first?
If Assmore screws over Arturo through Daniela, I can't feel sorry for Arturo. He knew Assmore was shady from the git go. But I'm sure Arturo will blame any fallout on Eladio. But Eladio didn't make Arturo do shady deals with Assmore or put secret money in Assmore's account.
Assmore is playing games and Daniela will be the loser...but this is what happens when you're Scrappy Doo trying to play with a pack of pit bulls.
I should NOT be rooting for the villain but I'm rooting for Eladio. And he DIDN'T have to cover for Gabriela & Franco...so I'm wondering why he did that.
Looks like Julia is going to open a can of whoop ass on Caridad tonight.
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: Tuesday, February 9, 2016 at 10:52:00 AM EST
: Tuesday, February 9, 2016 at 10:52:00 AM EST
Looking forward to the recap!
Julia was basically bringing up Franco for all those years but she seems to care little, or have little love for him. If she did, she wouldn't have kept harping on the fact that Franco, and not David, was always by Eladio's side. Fact is, Franco is more like Eladio and David has no interest in the business. She kept going on and on about what David wasn't getting. I understand her pain of Eladio questioning the paternity all of these years and now to know that he was lying to her. The thing is, she chose to stay with Eladio because of David and all he could give him. So she basically has been using Eladio for years, to pay her daddy's debts and for David to get the business. I guess her arguments seemed off to me. If Franco was a decent guy I would feel sorry for him because the woman who brought him up only sees him as a competitor with her own child.
Looking forward to seeing the Caridad and Julia fight tonight. Thing is, Caridad doesn't know that Eladio lied to Julia about Franco knowing the truth. Unless Eladio gives her the heads up, she may reveal that Franco knew earlier and that he knows she is his Mom.
I was glad what's his name made Arturo confess that he was breaking up Regina and David for his own selfish motive to get with Julia.
Wow Hummy deserves a huge anvil. Selling his daughter to the highest bidder and acting like the doting father while his daughter suffers over his actions...Wow he really is the worst of them all.
Dani is so stupid and taking drugs with that old geezer. Glad Connie didn't give in to making her godmother, especially after the way she has treated Connie. I think it would be funny if she ended up in a hospital bed next to Erick. Let Arturo and Nina see the fruits of their parenting.
Julia was basically bringing up Franco for all those years but she seems to care little, or have little love for him. If she did, she wouldn't have kept harping on the fact that Franco, and not David, was always by Eladio's side. Fact is, Franco is more like Eladio and David has no interest in the business. She kept going on and on about what David wasn't getting. I understand her pain of Eladio questioning the paternity all of these years and now to know that he was lying to her. The thing is, she chose to stay with Eladio because of David and all he could give him. So she basically has been using Eladio for years, to pay her daddy's debts and for David to get the business. I guess her arguments seemed off to me. If Franco was a decent guy I would feel sorry for him because the woman who brought him up only sees him as a competitor with her own child.
Looking forward to seeing the Caridad and Julia fight tonight. Thing is, Caridad doesn't know that Eladio lied to Julia about Franco knowing the truth. Unless Eladio gives her the heads up, she may reveal that Franco knew earlier and that he knows she is his Mom.
I was glad what's his name made Arturo confess that he was breaking up Regina and David for his own selfish motive to get with Julia.
Wow Hummy deserves a huge anvil. Selling his daughter to the highest bidder and acting like the doting father while his daughter suffers over his actions...Wow he really is the worst of them all.
Dani is so stupid and taking drugs with that old geezer. Glad Connie didn't give in to making her godmother, especially after the way she has treated Connie. I think it would be funny if she ended up in a hospital bed next to Erick. Let Arturo and Nina see the fruits of their parenting.
Carvivlie- It's not just that Eladio took Franco under his wing in the business. His whole life, until recently, Eladio actually showed David no love or attention, while showing all his attention to Franco. Not only did he question David's paternity all those years, he made David feel unwanted and unloved by his father. I'd be ticked off too, if I were Julia (and if I were David when he finds out). Plus, the hypocrisy of shoving his taunts and rages about David's paternity ALL those years, while having HIS love child in their home.
The only thing I would have liked to see is Julia comforting Franco (although we know he's a total fake and a manipulator).
The only thing I would have liked to see is Julia comforting Franco (although we know he's a total fake and a manipulator).
Guessing the reasons why Eladio covered for Gaby and Franco. (1) He wanted Julia (and David) to feel less duped. If Franco already knew, Julia could interpret that to mean Eladio truly cares for Franco more than he does David. (2) He wanted Gaby and Julia not to have a rift, so Gaby (he hopes) can plead for him with Julia. (3) Julia has felt inadequate and stupid in the past. If everybody in the house knew the truth except her, despite the progress she's made with getting a cellphone, freedom to leave the house, and getting a job and making her own money, she'd feel stupid again. Eladio is no dummy.
I love Gaby's facial expression when Franco acted surprised at the news that he was the love child. I think she is beginning to realize how easily Franco spins his many lies.
I see your point Vivi but something still hit me wrong with her argument. Franco may have been by his side but he wasn't shown love or affection either. Julia could have left Eladio but she wanted David to have Eladio's business and money. In some ways I feel she is complicit. She never got a dna test using Eladio and David's dna. She didn't need Arturo's. And her complete disregard for Franco's feelings and the momentum of finding out who his true father is...it just tells me she wasn't a good mother to Franco and was completely focused on David. Maybe she has a little of Nina in her.
Dirty old man, is right. Oh Daniela, is she THAT desperate?
Love your new avatar, Nandicta!
Anon207- Daniela was the one who gave Assmore the pills. She's the one that had them.
When Assmore coughed after taking the pill, I thought perhaps he was coughing out the pill. I looked closely to see if that is what he did, but couldn't tell.
Love your new avatar, Nandicta!
Anon207- Daniela was the one who gave Assmore the pills. She's the one that had them.
When Assmore coughed after taking the pill, I thought perhaps he was coughing out the pill. I looked closely to see if that is what he did, but couldn't tell.
I'm thinking Julia did the best she could with Franco, but when she saw he was becoming like Eladio, she and Franco became distant. I think Julia understandably wound up becoming more like a good aunt, as opposed to a mother, to Franco. After all, if Eladio had tried to make David like him in the bad old days, Julia would've fought tooth and nail to keep David out of Eladio's clutches. She didn't do that with Franco.
Yes, that was GREAT acting from FC and SG. Also from LB. Those scenes were very well done.
I was surprised that Eladio didn't throw Gaby and Franco under the bus. Tonight should be good, judging from the previews.
I hope Gaby is starting to see the real Franco. She was surprised to see how easily it was for him to put on an act.
I was surprised that Eladio didn't throw Gaby and Franco under the bus. Tonight should be good, judging from the previews.
I hope Gaby is starting to see the real Franco. She was surprised to see how easily it was for him to put on an act.
What hasn't been completely clear to me in all this is when Eladio paid Humberto's megadebts. Were they talking over that deal already while Julia and Arturo were still engaged? Did it happen immediately after the breakup or after the marriage? I'm not sure how much difference this makes to Julia's situation, but it would say a lot about Humberto.
Considering that Julia was abused her entire youth by Humberto, we have to expect that her ability to deal with basic human situations would have been severely impaired. As for what she has felt for Franco, I think she did/does love him. He was presented to her as an orphan who had just lost his parents. Considering that Julia runs a foundation for orphaned children she would feel for him. If Eladio's statement to the shrink on this was true, she was unable to have more children after David was born.
However, she should have wondered why a man as cruel as Eladio would bring home an orphaned child, especially when he showed no love to his own son. This would have happened around the time that DNA testing would have been available and she would have been demanding that he get the test.
Now to Assmore....
Considering his age (I'm guessing he's meant to be older than Arturo) I wonder whether he knows what he's doing with those drugs. What if he's found dead in his hotel room after having been seen leaving the antro with Daniela?
When we think of his deal with Arturo he gains nothing from fooling around with Daniela other than Arturo's wrath. If he plotted this in advance, Assmore could use this to blackmail Arturo into something worse that could either lose him money or prestige. This also would enrage Nina who doesn't have the objectivity or the will to see Dani's role in all this. If anything about this becomes public and Arturo ends up having to pay the liability in Dani's contract, how does she expect that this would bring her closer to him? If anything it would distance them even more.
This character completely disgusts me because it is an indictment of corruption and perversity against all gringos in suits.
Considering that Julia was abused her entire youth by Humberto, we have to expect that her ability to deal with basic human situations would have been severely impaired. As for what she has felt for Franco, I think she did/does love him. He was presented to her as an orphan who had just lost his parents. Considering that Julia runs a foundation for orphaned children she would feel for him. If Eladio's statement to the shrink on this was true, she was unable to have more children after David was born.
However, she should have wondered why a man as cruel as Eladio would bring home an orphaned child, especially when he showed no love to his own son. This would have happened around the time that DNA testing would have been available and she would have been demanding that he get the test.
Now to Assmore....
Considering his age (I'm guessing he's meant to be older than Arturo) I wonder whether he knows what he's doing with those drugs. What if he's found dead in his hotel room after having been seen leaving the antro with Daniela?
When we think of his deal with Arturo he gains nothing from fooling around with Daniela other than Arturo's wrath. If he plotted this in advance, Assmore could use this to blackmail Arturo into something worse that could either lose him money or prestige. This also would enrage Nina who doesn't have the objectivity or the will to see Dani's role in all this. If anything about this becomes public and Arturo ends up having to pay the liability in Dani's contract, how does she expect that this would bring her closer to him? If anything it would distance them even more.
This character completely disgusts me because it is an indictment of corruption and perversity against all gringos in suits.
"If Franco was a decent guy I would feel sorry for him because the woman who brought him up only sees him as a competitor with her own child"
IMO Julia's true feelings about Franco were revealed when Eladio gave Franco the shares. This is a kid, that you've raised since he was a toddler but you're pissed that he got shares of the family business. Ok. This tells me Julia never really regarded Franco as part of the family and IMO never really cared for him, as part of the family. I think she cared about Franco as she would care about one of the children of her foundation but nothing more.
The snippets of conversation she had with Amanda tells me she & Amanda regarded Franco as a smarmy little asshole, something to be tolerated.
Gabriela is putting her Fallopian tubes on lockdown because she is finally realizing what a scum Franco is & she's not trying to be tied to that. Wonder when she'll find out Marintia is with child?
IMO Julia's true feelings about Franco were revealed when Eladio gave Franco the shares. This is a kid, that you've raised since he was a toddler but you're pissed that he got shares of the family business. Ok. This tells me Julia never really regarded Franco as part of the family and IMO never really cared for him, as part of the family. I think she cared about Franco as she would care about one of the children of her foundation but nothing more.
The snippets of conversation she had with Amanda tells me she & Amanda regarded Franco as a smarmy little asshole, something to be tolerated.
Gabriela is putting her Fallopian tubes on lockdown because she is finally realizing what a scum Franco is & she's not trying to be tied to that. Wonder when she'll find out Marintia is with child?
Permalink posted by : Tuesday, February 9, 2016 at 12:05:00 PM EST
: Tuesday, February 9, 2016 at 12:05:00 PM EST
I think the thing that makes some of us wish for a reconciliation between Julia and Eladio is that both spouses have made huge relationship mistakes, both are very much to blame for the current situation. We don’t have evil versus good in the Gomez Luna home. Then they bartered their early mistakes into bigger mistakes. We could spend a lot of time going over what each person did (and I’m sure we will) but neither partner is even slightly innocent in the marriage. Julia’s physical coldness and love for Arturo drove Eladio to make some very serious, truly reprehensible mistakes. The chill in that house was numbing from the start and Eladio didn’t have the emotional skills to turn things around and he retaliated and lied in a disgraceful way. But......as I watched them in their big quarrel, I saw people who love each other, they were actually wiping each other’s tears. They've come a long way, maybe they can push themselves even further toward peace and happiness. Ok, I'm corny and a hopeless romantic too!!!
Eladio shouldn’t have lied about Gabi and Franco, but Julia has a bomb too, she got the Franco information from hated enemy, Arturo.
Eladio shouldn’t have lied about Gabi and Franco, but Julia has a bomb too, she got the Franco information from hated enemy, Arturo.
The thing is, when they both decided to go the therapy route, they both decided to come clean about all their past mistakes so that they could make a real fresh start. Julia lived up to her end of the bargain. Eladio did not.
What an excellent Part 1. Thanks Cynderella. You have me laughing out loud.
I loved "sweet nothings", "tells her hell no in a nice way" (about Daniela being Erick Jr's godmother), and "surprised that they didn't ask Connie to move over in the hospital bed so that they could really get it on" (so true!).
Miguel and Consuelo scenes are becoming tiring. It's all about them having to keep their distance. Yeah, we know THAT, we don't have to see them telling each other the same thing over and over.
I can't blame Consuelo for not wanting Daniela as the godmother of her child. I wouldn't want her as a godmother either. She's NOT a good role model, at all. Regina or Clara should be named the godmother.
I loved "sweet nothings", "tells her hell no in a nice way" (about Daniela being Erick Jr's godmother), and "surprised that they didn't ask Connie to move over in the hospital bed so that they could really get it on" (so true!).
Miguel and Consuelo scenes are becoming tiring. It's all about them having to keep their distance. Yeah, we know THAT, we don't have to see them telling each other the same thing over and over.
I can't blame Consuelo for not wanting Daniela as the godmother of her child. I wouldn't want her as a godmother either. She's NOT a good role model, at all. Regina or Clara should be named the godmother.
Vivi, I agree that there have been lost opportunities for Eladio to tell the truth, he's mumbled around it, but never just came out with it. But remember, Eladio has always known that he could lose Julia, she is much more secure in his love. I've never been able to wrap my head around marrying someone for money then having difficulty completing the bargain on the wedding night. This mistake started the downward spiral, I think. Eladio's transgressions have been much more serious, but he's not alone.
Cynderella, you had me at the title! LOL Julia Shriver! You are killing me with this little snippet of your recap. I can't wait to read the rest!
I'm enjoying the comments very much, Niecie in MD, I think you are 100% correct on Eladio's reasoning for covering Gaby and Franco. That cleared things up for me perfectly, it makes sense. Eladio is not going to let Julia go that easily, he will use anything he can to keep her.
I'm enjoying the comments very much, Niecie in MD, I think you are 100% correct on Eladio's reasoning for covering Gaby and Franco. That cleared things up for me perfectly, it makes sense. Eladio is not going to let Julia go that easily, he will use anything he can to keep her.
Cynderella, what can one comment regarding "Deny Natal Accusations test"? Fabulous.
Your recap was excellent.
I thought the acting last night was superior. From everyone.
The comments today were very insightful and thought provoking.
Now, I love Julia but find I agree with you Carvivlie in that Julia seemed to keep Franco at arms length. Her smiles were few and perfunctory. I never saw her face light up when she saw him. I think she really tried to be happy for Gaby but her face never mirrored that emotion. Niecie, we haven't seen the backstory but it is likely that seeing her "godson" grew up, acquiring many of her not so adored husband's nastier qualities, likely turned her off further.
Perhaps Eladio assuming total blame and keeping Gaby and Franco from the fire are part of his redemptive rehab.
I think there is a special place in hell for Humberto. I hope he finds his way there soon. Beyond contemptible.
It appears Caridad is in for some whooping tonight!
Thank you Cynderella.
Diana
Your recap was excellent.
I thought the acting last night was superior. From everyone.
The comments today were very insightful and thought provoking.
Now, I love Julia but find I agree with you Carvivlie in that Julia seemed to keep Franco at arms length. Her smiles were few and perfunctory. I never saw her face light up when she saw him. I think she really tried to be happy for Gaby but her face never mirrored that emotion. Niecie, we haven't seen the backstory but it is likely that seeing her "godson" grew up, acquiring many of her not so adored husband's nastier qualities, likely turned her off further.
Perhaps Eladio assuming total blame and keeping Gaby and Franco from the fire are part of his redemptive rehab.
I think there is a special place in hell for Humberto. I hope he finds his way there soon. Beyond contemptible.
It appears Caridad is in for some whooping tonight!
Thank you Cynderella.
Diana
Permalink posted by : Tuesday, February 9, 2016 at 1:17:00 PM EST
: Tuesday, February 9, 2016 at 1:17:00 PM EST
Julia's objection to Franco getting the shares was all about him getting shares before David was acknowledged by Eladio. This after Eladio was showing blatant favoritism to Franco. At that time this was a legitimate reason.
I think Eladio had already acknowledged David by the time he gave the shares to Franco, but it doesn't matter. Julia wouldn't have wanted Franco to have any of the shares under any circumstances* because she wanted it all for David.
And going forth, with the truth about Franco's paternity out in the open, IMO Julia is going to object to Franco being on equal standing with David, Eladio-wise.
I am wondering if Caridad will spill the beans about Franco Jr. to Julia when they face off tonight. Caridad is very impulsive --that's what keeps getting her in trouble. She can't think with a cold mind.
*The only way Julia would've not been angry at Franco getting shares is if Eladio gave them to him as a wedding present for his marriage to Gabriela.
And going forth, with the truth about Franco's paternity out in the open, IMO Julia is going to object to Franco being on equal standing with David, Eladio-wise.
I am wondering if Caridad will spill the beans about Franco Jr. to Julia when they face off tonight. Caridad is very impulsive --that's what keeps getting her in trouble. She can't think with a cold mind.
*The only way Julia would've not been angry at Franco getting shares is if Eladio gave them to him as a wedding present for his marriage to Gabriela.
Permalink posted by : Tuesday, February 9, 2016 at 2:26:00 PM EST
: Tuesday, February 9, 2016 at 2:26:00 PM EST
Think I meant "whupping".
Guess it's obvious I don't know my "whooping" from my "whupping".
Diana :)
Guess it's obvious I don't know my "whooping" from my "whupping".
Diana :)
Permalink posted by : Tuesday, February 9, 2016 at 2:37:00 PM EST
: Tuesday, February 9, 2016 at 2:37:00 PM EST
Diana: The approved expression is "Beat her like a rented mule." (Her or him)..
It is preferred because it is so wrong in so many ways.
kj
It is preferred because it is so wrong in so many ways.
kj
Cynderella--It just isn't a Tuesday without a Recap from you. Thank you for the first part. Am anxious for part 2.
Oh, Diana--whooping is just fine. I think we will be doing the whooping and Julia will do the whupping.
Oh, Diana--whooping is just fine. I think we will be doing the whooping and Julia will do the whupping.
Wow what a painful episode. But you managed to give us some laughs, Cynderella.Esoecially loved the "hell, no but in a nice way." Yes, sweet, yielding Consuelo was nevertheless very firm about not handing over the madrina role to Daniela. Plus as I understand these things, you don't ASK or WHEEDLE to be the godmother. You are chosen by the parents and can either accept or refuse.
Icky scene with the Ashmore Dani hookup. I know nothing about recreational drugs but those orange pills looked enormous!
As for the rest, the suffering was well-played by both actors. Sandy in TN...did they both wipe each other's tears?! I didn't see that, but wow, that was a marvelous touch if it happened.
When we open our hearts to love another human being, we are also open to the deepest hurt imaginable. And when we find out someone lied to her, it not only changes the present and future...it also changes the past. You look back and re-write all your memories, seeing nothing but sham and ugliness in what once seemed beautiful.
Icky scene with the Ashmore Dani hookup. I know nothing about recreational drugs but those orange pills looked enormous!
As for the rest, the suffering was well-played by both actors. Sandy in TN...did they both wipe each other's tears?! I didn't see that, but wow, that was a marvelous touch if it happened.
When we open our hearts to love another human being, we are also open to the deepest hurt imaginable. And when we find out someone lied to her, it not only changes the present and future...it also changes the past. You look back and re-write all your memories, seeing nothing but sham and ugliness in what once seemed beautiful.
I guess I don't see the shares thing as being that big a deal. Since David is Eladio's son if something happened to Eladio his shares would go to Julia and David. Franco is the one that works there but has no right to any of it if Eladio died. Giving Franco shares seemed logical.
The recap is up. I was so jealous because Novela Maven got the cool episodes, but I really liked this one.
I thought Consuelo was fair. She didn't outright say that Dani couldn't be the godmother, that perhaps she could share the duties. If Dani can't accept that, that's her problem. Dani knew there was a chance she would be sharing godmother duties with Regina because she told Nina so.
I think I'm rooting for Eladio to win Julia (even though he's a rapist) because I've seen a level of affection for Julia that I haven't yet seen Arturo display. And while Eladio simply may not be capable of showing true love, I'm not sure Arturo is either.
I would love it if Julia pulled a Kelly Taylor and said that she chooses JULIA, not either one of them.
I think I'm rooting for Eladio to win Julia (even though he's a rapist) because I've seen a level of affection for Julia that I haven't yet seen Arturo display. And while Eladio simply may not be capable of showing true love, I'm not sure Arturo is either.
I would love it if Julia pulled a Kelly Taylor and said that she chooses JULIA, not either one of them.
Permalink posted by : Tuesday, February 9, 2016 at 3:37:00 PM EST
: Tuesday, February 9, 2016 at 3:37:00 PM EST
Anon207- That is my wish for Julia too. Neither one of these guys is a good bet.
Thanks Cyn! Great bullet point recap. You got the humor and all the main points.
Since the scene with Gabi and Julia actually came at the end, we don't yet know if she will actually speak to Franco. Since we ended on that scene, I'm inclined to think she will speak to Franco. I hope she does-- even though the little fink will just be lying and faking the whole time.
Thanks Cyn! Great bullet point recap. You got the humor and all the main points.
Since the scene with Gabi and Julia actually came at the end, we don't yet know if she will actually speak to Franco. Since we ended on that scene, I'm inclined to think she will speak to Franco. I hope she does-- even though the little fink will just be lying and faking the whole time.
Thanks, Cynderella. Great job from memory.
I actually like Dani. She's a mess but she hurts herself more than anyone. Why she craves attention so much is a mystery -- I don't think it's especially bad parenting; some folks are just troubled. Picking up a man old enough to be her granddad and doing Ecstasy with him is a cry for help. I hope Arturo beats the crap out of Ashmore.
Gaby has seen glimpses of the real Franco before but still made excuses in her mind and kissed and made up. What will she do this time?
Now that all three (Eladio, Franco, and Gaby) have lied, how can Eladio keep Caridad in line. And there's also tell-it-like-it-is Clara, who also knows the truth.
As others have said, based on the body language between Eladio and Julia in the argument, I think they'll stay together. At least I hope so, to thwart awesome Hummy's plan. He was pitch perfect in his lies. Franco was a bit overblown in his, but I guess that's in keeping with his still wet-behind-the-ears evil.
I actually like Dani. She's a mess but she hurts herself more than anyone. Why she craves attention so much is a mystery -- I don't think it's especially bad parenting; some folks are just troubled. Picking up a man old enough to be her granddad and doing Ecstasy with him is a cry for help. I hope Arturo beats the crap out of Ashmore.
Gaby has seen glimpses of the real Franco before but still made excuses in her mind and kissed and made up. What will she do this time?
Now that all three (Eladio, Franco, and Gaby) have lied, how can Eladio keep Caridad in line. And there's also tell-it-like-it-is Clara, who also knows the truth.
As others have said, based on the body language between Eladio and Julia in the argument, I think they'll stay together. At least I hope so, to thwart awesome Hummy's plan. He was pitch perfect in his lies. Franco was a bit overblown in his, but I guess that's in keeping with his still wet-behind-the-ears evil.
Thank you Cynderella---I always love your snarky recaps.
Wow! What a story. So many things going on and about to go on. This novela alone would be enough to keep the Academy Awards busy for sure. Oscars all around. Yes, even for despicable Humberto. That old geezer cracks me up. I mean this old bird has one foot in the grave already. He has gambled away a fortune, is beyond capable of really enjoying what little he has left of his disgusting life. And yet, he's still going for the gold, a touchdown. or a bases loaded homerun. What's with this guy?
Super great weekend comments as well as today. Damn you guys are good.
Nandicta---The men in Monterrey like P y P---A ball game and P y P, what could be better?
You asked if us guys would wear the Eladio necktie knot? I would be willing to give it a try maybe one time but probably not more than that. I don't take easily to change. The simple tried and true Windsor or Half Windsor is just fine with me. And Besides, I don't think that it looks all that good--different yes but not great. The distinctive big shot look? Let Eladio have it, I don't need that.
Change or being different? I worked for a company for several years. The President's
administrative assistant was a nice lady but she used to have her office rearranged about twice a year. Desk over here, table over there, lights moved to a different corner etc. When I settle in, I'm happy but after seeing this lady having her office rearranged many times over, one day I just blurted out and said wow, you must be a very unhappy person. She was shocked and answered NO! I'm very happy, why would you ever say something like that? I replied that I thought that she was NEVER
satisfied and as a result had to keep changing things to improve on something that she didn't think was very good. Her answer to me was that when her office was changed around, to her it looked new and exciting. Ok, I get it. New tie knots? They're ok I guess but I really don't need them. Let someone else have the new and exciting, I'll stick with the traditional.
The Caridad, Julia showdown tonight---I'm counting the hours and minutes. Can't wait
must see tv
the gringo
Wow! What a story. So many things going on and about to go on. This novela alone would be enough to keep the Academy Awards busy for sure. Oscars all around. Yes, even for despicable Humberto. That old geezer cracks me up. I mean this old bird has one foot in the grave already. He has gambled away a fortune, is beyond capable of really enjoying what little he has left of his disgusting life. And yet, he's still going for the gold, a touchdown. or a bases loaded homerun. What's with this guy?
Super great weekend comments as well as today. Damn you guys are good.
Nandicta---The men in Monterrey like P y P---A ball game and P y P, what could be better?
You asked if us guys would wear the Eladio necktie knot? I would be willing to give it a try maybe one time but probably not more than that. I don't take easily to change. The simple tried and true Windsor or Half Windsor is just fine with me. And Besides, I don't think that it looks all that good--different yes but not great. The distinctive big shot look? Let Eladio have it, I don't need that.
Change or being different? I worked for a company for several years. The President's
administrative assistant was a nice lady but she used to have her office rearranged about twice a year. Desk over here, table over there, lights moved to a different corner etc. When I settle in, I'm happy but after seeing this lady having her office rearranged many times over, one day I just blurted out and said wow, you must be a very unhappy person. She was shocked and answered NO! I'm very happy, why would you ever say something like that? I replied that I thought that she was NEVER
satisfied and as a result had to keep changing things to improve on something that she didn't think was very good. Her answer to me was that when her office was changed around, to her it looked new and exciting. Ok, I get it. New tie knots? They're ok I guess but I really don't need them. Let someone else have the new and exciting, I'll stick with the traditional.
The Caridad, Julia showdown tonight---I'm counting the hours and minutes. Can't wait
must see tv
the gringo
Permalink posted by : Tuesday, February 9, 2016 at 3:57:00 PM EST
: Tuesday, February 9, 2016 at 3:57:00 PM EST
I think Dani's damage is about equal. She chases the men who fall for Regina in order to vex and insult her. She puts up things on social media that hurt others (Miguel and Consuelo), and she goes to work for the enemy, which hurts Arturo.
Most of you don't seem to approve of Miguel/Consuelo, but that's not Daniela's business. She was the one who rejected David in favor of a guy who bought her something inappropriately expensive for the nature of their relationship and then has the nerve to chase David because he's with her older sister. That's sick. Although it hasn't happened yet working for the enemy could hurt her family's company.
Nina is her enabler. While there have been occasions when Nina tried to prevent her doing something destructive, she has been inconsistent in this. I'm not a parent but I've heard many times that parental discipline requires consistency not just from each parent but that they must agree with each other. I can't see that the latter has ever happened.
We have yet to see Daniela hospitalized because of her antics, so that could be the next thing on the writers' agenda once Ape Child wakes up.
Most of you don't seem to approve of Miguel/Consuelo, but that's not Daniela's business. She was the one who rejected David in favor of a guy who bought her something inappropriately expensive for the nature of their relationship and then has the nerve to chase David because he's with her older sister. That's sick. Although it hasn't happened yet working for the enemy could hurt her family's company.
Nina is her enabler. While there have been occasions when Nina tried to prevent her doing something destructive, she has been inconsistent in this. I'm not a parent but I've heard many times that parental discipline requires consistency not just from each parent but that they must agree with each other. I can't see that the latter has ever happened.
We have yet to see Daniela hospitalized because of her antics, so that could be the next thing on the writers' agenda once Ape Child wakes up.
I always love your recaps, Cyndy. I'm dying to see part 2 and I think I must have dozed off (drat it!) and can't remember beyond part 1. But I don't recall Julia ever asking who was the mother of Franco....did she? Two commenters seemed to imply that Julia knows.
I also think that if Eladio didn't immediately say that Franco and Gaby didn't know, I think Gaby would have confessed knowing.
I was very disappointed with Julia giving Arturo so much satisfaction when she showed him how upset she was finding out Franco was Eladio's son. I would have liked her to say that someone gave him the wrong info and laugh it off but give Eladio all she did.
Ann-NYC
I also think that if Eladio didn't immediately say that Franco and Gaby didn't know, I think Gaby would have confessed knowing.
I was very disappointed with Julia giving Arturo so much satisfaction when she showed him how upset she was finding out Franco was Eladio's son. I would have liked her to say that someone gave him the wrong info and laugh it off but give Eladio all she did.
Ann-NYC
Permalink posted by : Tuesday, February 9, 2016 at 4:05:00 PM EST
: Tuesday, February 9, 2016 at 4:05:00 PM EST
Cynderella--Second Verse, Good as the First. You pack a wallop better than Julia does. Thank you so much.
Ann-NYC--Short and sweet: Julia did ask Eladio who the mother was and not in a very calm voice. He, however doesn't answer before the end of the episode. She has NO clue. That's for tonight's Must See TV.
I noticed Eladio giving Franco a couple of long hard looks as and after he said Gaby didn't know and neither did Franco. Julia was turned toward the kids and didn't see his almost imperceptible signal.
Ann-NYC--Short and sweet: Julia did ask Eladio who the mother was and not in a very calm voice. He, however doesn't answer before the end of the episode. She has NO clue. That's for tonight's Must See TV.
I noticed Eladio giving Franco a couple of long hard looks as and after he said Gaby didn't know and neither did Franco. Julia was turned toward the kids and didn't see his almost imperceptible signal.
Ann-NYC--Well, now I'm doubting myself. That could have come with the avances. Most of the time I try not to watch them, but last night PyP ran over 2 minutes into Hotel, so I watched. We'll see soon enough, though.
UA--I do approve of the Miguel/Consuelo link up. They are NOT related by blood, only by marriage and convention. (Remember Cousin Cousine?) If Arturo would only see that he is sentencing Connie to raise her child alone, with no loving hand there for her OR the boy with his father in jail and his mother unhappy. Miguel would be a wonderful presence in the boy's life--wow--a two-parent family that loves each other and the child. But--they *would* have to move away from the rest of the family and something has to happen to Chimp-Boy, preferably jail. What I don't understand, is if the justice systems wants him so much, why don't they go ahead and take him and put him in the prison hospital. (Remember Dr. Alvaro in CME?)
Thanks Cynderella for a snappy succinct recap .. "hover chair", good name. I am told there are only multicolored hover bar stools on the patio. Maybe we can order up some wheeled hover chairs for the patio peeps at the Humberto table.
Back at the storyline, I realize this is TN morality, psychology and impulsive reactivity, so, I predict the TN future to unfold with one hero and heroine. However, my fantasy is that Eladio continue with his therapy and be redeemed as a more decent human being than his past behavior has suggested. He has been a physically and psychologically abusive man - from a childhood that gave him less of a chance to be otherwise. I give him puntos for having the courage to show up to therapy for more than one session and admit he is flawed in front of more than one person. His effort is more effort than the rest of the PyP crowd has done to grow a little personal insight. If Julia was willing to sign up for therapy, one would hope she not immediately bail upon hearing the uncomfortable truth and consequences of both of their very flawed behavior. She claims she wronged Eladio - treated him with disdain, and deceived him ALL these years and never loved him. The affairs he had (she claims she knew about) are all okay, except, this one?!? Hard to believe in the real world there hasn't been the possible consideration of other ninos from these affairs as other peeps have commented.
Eladio is showing up for therapy far too late in the game - too many skeletons and lies to keep reinforcing his bad boyness. Ah well!
IMO, Arturo is unconvincing as the hapless victim of a superficial scheming wife. He would have been more convincing to me if he had stood up for his "outcast son" even if it meant putting Nina on notice, honored Julia's boundaries and not taken on the very self-serving role as her confessor, and not claimed the hurt of his affair before marrying Julia "was less bad". Furthermore, making lots of money to support the family doesn't absolve him of his moral duty as a parent. He is arriving a little late in the game to be concerned about the failings of his adult kids. Maybe Eladio can refer him to the neighborhood Psyd?
Writers must be very busy writing a convincing galan character from the selection above!
My two pesos worth while thoroughly enjoying the PyP ride into the hands of our TN storytelling future.
Mena
Back at the storyline, I realize this is TN morality, psychology and impulsive reactivity, so, I predict the TN future to unfold with one hero and heroine. However, my fantasy is that Eladio continue with his therapy and be redeemed as a more decent human being than his past behavior has suggested. He has been a physically and psychologically abusive man - from a childhood that gave him less of a chance to be otherwise. I give him puntos for having the courage to show up to therapy for more than one session and admit he is flawed in front of more than one person. His effort is more effort than the rest of the PyP crowd has done to grow a little personal insight. If Julia was willing to sign up for therapy, one would hope she not immediately bail upon hearing the uncomfortable truth and consequences of both of their very flawed behavior. She claims she wronged Eladio - treated him with disdain, and deceived him ALL these years and never loved him. The affairs he had (she claims she knew about) are all okay, except, this one?!? Hard to believe in the real world there hasn't been the possible consideration of other ninos from these affairs as other peeps have commented.
Eladio is showing up for therapy far too late in the game - too many skeletons and lies to keep reinforcing his bad boyness. Ah well!
IMO, Arturo is unconvincing as the hapless victim of a superficial scheming wife. He would have been more convincing to me if he had stood up for his "outcast son" even if it meant putting Nina on notice, honored Julia's boundaries and not taken on the very self-serving role as her confessor, and not claimed the hurt of his affair before marrying Julia "was less bad". Furthermore, making lots of money to support the family doesn't absolve him of his moral duty as a parent. He is arriving a little late in the game to be concerned about the failings of his adult kids. Maybe Eladio can refer him to the neighborhood Psyd?
Writers must be very busy writing a convincing galan character from the selection above!
My two pesos worth while thoroughly enjoying the PyP ride into the hands of our TN storytelling future.
Mena
Thank you Cynderella, not enough time in a day to get to it all cept your recap.
I get Julia feels a fool but she really didn't care about Elaido, but for his checkbook, for 25 years and now she does. What's a doormat to do?
I get Julia feels a fool but she really didn't care about Elaido, but for his checkbook, for 25 years and now she does. What's a doormat to do?
Cynderella...She shoots; she scores. Thanks for yet another excellent , sassy recap.
Judyb...You are the resident wisewoman of Caraycaray. I learn so much from you as you give us little gems of wisdom that I can apply to my own life. I appreciate your bon mots!
Nandicta...I love you Scottish sayings. The one that I keep reading is "Don't fash." ..meaning "dont worry."
I just read these wise words " Good people aren't perfect; they just regret it when they aren't." The good folks are not in great abundance in this novela .
Judyb...You are the resident wisewoman of Caraycaray. I learn so much from you as you give us little gems of wisdom that I can apply to my own life. I appreciate your bon mots!
Nandicta...I love you Scottish sayings. The one that I keep reading is "Don't fash." ..meaning "dont worry."
I just read these wise words " Good people aren't perfect; they just regret it when they aren't." The good folks are not in great abundance in this novela .
Permalink posted by : Tuesday, February 9, 2016 at 4:54:00 PM EST
: Tuesday, February 9, 2016 at 4:54:00 PM EST
Thank You much Cynderella. Another favorite: "the grand opening of his casino cannot be delayed any longer."
AssMore and Dani: Is there an off chance that Ass More is simply living up to his patio nickname and has zero ulterior motive? He probably does not know yet that she has seen more ceilings than Michelangelo and may not even care given the age difference.
AssMore and Dani: Is there an off chance that Ass More is simply living up to his patio nickname and has zero ulterior motive? He probably does not know yet that she has seen more ceilings than Michelangelo and may not even care given the age difference.
Cynderella, loved every minute of your fantastic recap. For some reason, this just jumped off the page, “They (David and Regina) have a heavy groping session in front of the new mother and Dani. I surprised that they didn't ask Connie to move over in the hospital bed so that they could really get it on. Geez.” Really David? Really Regina?
As others have mentioned, “Deny Natal Accusations.” was so very clever. Thank you so very much for the fun snark on a hard episode, your talents do not go unnoticed here on the patio.
Susanlynn, I agree with you on this, "Judyb...You are the resident wisewoman of Caraycaray. I learn so much from you as you give us little gems of wisdom that I can apply to my own life. I appreciate your bon mots!" So do I!!
As others have mentioned, “Deny Natal Accusations.” was so very clever. Thank you so very much for the fun snark on a hard episode, your talents do not go unnoticed here on the patio.
Susanlynn, I agree with you on this, "Judyb...You are the resident wisewoman of Caraycaray. I learn so much from you as you give us little gems of wisdom that I can apply to my own life. I appreciate your bon mots!" So do I!!
Thanks so much for this, Cynderella. Your unique way of putting things often has a way of giving us an unvarnished straight-forward view of the essential nuggets of truth. These made me smile:
Julia is all upset because this revelation comes at a bad time for her."
"Franco wants to impregnate her immediately."
"Hmmmmmm. She chooses to boink."
So simply put yet so rich in truth.
Mena,
"He would have been more convincing to me if he had stood up for his "outcast son" even if it meant putting Nina on notice..."
I've suggested here before that perhaps Nina's way of relating to Miguel is a direct reflection of Arturo's own attitude toward his unwanted son whose inconvenient presence sent the happy train of his life careening off its track. I think it might also be possible that he was simply one of those insufferable, unlikable children.
UA,
I'm intrigued that you made chili for the Super Bowl party. Since you went out to get cumin it sounds like you were making it from scratch. Sandy indicated interest and I'm also curious... what goes into a New Yorker's chili?
Carlos
Julia is all upset because this revelation comes at a bad time for her."
"Franco wants to impregnate her immediately."
"Hmmmmmm. She chooses to boink."
So simply put yet so rich in truth.
Mena,
"He would have been more convincing to me if he had stood up for his "outcast son" even if it meant putting Nina on notice..."
I've suggested here before that perhaps Nina's way of relating to Miguel is a direct reflection of Arturo's own attitude toward his unwanted son whose inconvenient presence sent the happy train of his life careening off its track. I think it might also be possible that he was simply one of those insufferable, unlikable children.
UA,
I'm intrigued that you made chili for the Super Bowl party. Since you went out to get cumin it sounds like you were making it from scratch. Sandy indicated interest and I'm also curious... what goes into a New Yorker's chili?
Carlos
Mena: Eladio is the Bad Boy of Telenovelas, who just can't help themselves!
Purple Lips is the Bad Girl considering her horrible motherly instincts such as treating Regina like garbage & constantly blasting her stepson, Miguel!
Purple Lips is the Bad Girl considering her horrible motherly instincts such as treating Regina like garbage & constantly blasting her stepson, Miguel!
Thanks for the fabulous Cynderella! You never disappoint and neither do the beautiful patio peeps! Great comments all around!
-- Carvivlie: "I think it would be funny if she [Dani] ended up in a hospital bed next to Erick. Let Arturo and Nina see the fruits of their parenting." Thank for that visual image of the Montenegro idiot children sharing a hospital room! I also agree with yours, Diana's and Anon207's assessment that Julia considered Franco as an orphan they took care of rather than a full-fledged member of the family.
-- Niecie: Your explanation about why Eladio covered for Franco and Gabi is spot on but the meanie in me would've ratted them out anyway. Within the Gómez Luna household, everybody and their mother knew that Franco is Eladio's son, with the exception of Julia, David and Efraín. Simona seems like a wise lady, I would (wildly) speculate here that she may have had her own doubts about the subject.
-- Mauricio: Cheers mate, a friend sent me that Humberto meme. Glad to see you out and about in the Patio! We missed you on Friday! :)
-- Vivi: You're right in that the therapy route meant borrón y cuenta nueva (clean slate and new start) for the Gómez Luna couple, but has Julia really lived up to that? I remember that when Julia came clean about her encounter with Arturo in Vallarta, she conveniently left the kissing, the "let's run away together", the unzipped dress on the beach and the "I wanna make you my woman"! I don't think Eladio knows about her secret rendez-vous with Arturo, including their encounter at the hospital, the I-love-you's, the "take care of David as if he were your son" and the slobbering over each other at church. As much as I dislike Arturo, I gotta admit that his annoying persistence with Julia is due to her getting his hormones worked up and his hopes high. This doesn't excuse Eladio's lies or Arturo's obsessiveness but Julia is no blanca paloma. Seeing her pain yesterday broke my heart but she is not totally blameless in the situation she's now finding herself in.
-- Sandy: "as I watched them in their big quarrel, I saw people who love each other, they were actually wiping each other’s tears. They've come a long way, maybe they can push themselves even further toward peace and happiness. Ok, I'm corny and a hopeless romantic too!" They both made mistakes and they both hurt each other a great deal and just as they were learning to be happy, it all came crumbling down! However, I'm glad this happened because a happiness built on lies is ephemeral. Now they've got a clean slate, they're paying for their mistakes and they can move towards healing their wounds and building a happy life either together or separately. Part of me wants them to work things out and stay together purely to spite Humberto and Arturo. On the other hand, I kind of like the idea of them going their separate ways but finding some kind of closure and maintaining a cordial relationship for the sake of their child. Still, I have this nagging feeling that Eladio will die by the end of this TN. Ever since that episode where he explained the significance of his tattoo and was talking about eternal love, finding Julia in the afterlife etc. I got the sensation this dude won't make it to the finish line.
-- Carvivlie: "I think it would be funny if she [Dani] ended up in a hospital bed next to Erick. Let Arturo and Nina see the fruits of their parenting." Thank for that visual image of the Montenegro idiot children sharing a hospital room! I also agree with yours, Diana's and Anon207's assessment that Julia considered Franco as an orphan they took care of rather than a full-fledged member of the family.
-- Niecie: Your explanation about why Eladio covered for Franco and Gabi is spot on but the meanie in me would've ratted them out anyway. Within the Gómez Luna household, everybody and their mother knew that Franco is Eladio's son, with the exception of Julia, David and Efraín. Simona seems like a wise lady, I would (wildly) speculate here that she may have had her own doubts about the subject.
-- Mauricio: Cheers mate, a friend sent me that Humberto meme. Glad to see you out and about in the Patio! We missed you on Friday! :)
-- Vivi: You're right in that the therapy route meant borrón y cuenta nueva (clean slate and new start) for the Gómez Luna couple, but has Julia really lived up to that? I remember that when Julia came clean about her encounter with Arturo in Vallarta, she conveniently left the kissing, the "let's run away together", the unzipped dress on the beach and the "I wanna make you my woman"! I don't think Eladio knows about her secret rendez-vous with Arturo, including their encounter at the hospital, the I-love-you's, the "take care of David as if he were your son" and the slobbering over each other at church. As much as I dislike Arturo, I gotta admit that his annoying persistence with Julia is due to her getting his hormones worked up and his hopes high. This doesn't excuse Eladio's lies or Arturo's obsessiveness but Julia is no blanca paloma. Seeing her pain yesterday broke my heart but she is not totally blameless in the situation she's now finding herself in.
-- Sandy: "as I watched them in their big quarrel, I saw people who love each other, they were actually wiping each other’s tears. They've come a long way, maybe they can push themselves even further toward peace and happiness. Ok, I'm corny and a hopeless romantic too!" They both made mistakes and they both hurt each other a great deal and just as they were learning to be happy, it all came crumbling down! However, I'm glad this happened because a happiness built on lies is ephemeral. Now they've got a clean slate, they're paying for their mistakes and they can move towards healing their wounds and building a happy life either together or separately. Part of me wants them to work things out and stay together purely to spite Humberto and Arturo. On the other hand, I kind of like the idea of them going their separate ways but finding some kind of closure and maintaining a cordial relationship for the sake of their child. Still, I have this nagging feeling that Eladio will die by the end of this TN. Ever since that episode where he explained the significance of his tattoo and was talking about eternal love, finding Julia in the afterlife etc. I got the sensation this dude won't make it to the finish line.
-- Lily: Welcome (or welcome back) to the PyP Patio! :)
-- JudyB: "When we open our hearts to love another human being, we are also open to the deepest hurt imaginable." That is so beautiful! Thank you! :) And yes, Sandy is right, there was hugging, face touching, hand holding and tear wiping in the midst of all the pushing, shoving, yelling, crying and reproaching. I watched the scenes several times and the little touches are just superb! Masterful acting by both!
-- Gringo: Cheers for getting back to me on the tie knot question and for sharing that anecdote about change as a quest for excitement vs. custom as a mark of comfort. I'm very intrepid and like to try new things when I'm traveling but at home, I'm a creature of habit. The questions you raised about Humberto are very valid. What does he want to do with all this money he's trying to squeeze out of these people he's playing against each other? As you rightly pointed out, "this old bird has one foot in the grave already." So why all the greed? Shouldn't repent before he meets his maker in, like, 72 hours? I think his addiction to gambling may play a part in his disgusting behavior.
-- Mena: I think your two pesos were fabulous and I wholeheatedly agree with your assessment.
-- Susanlynn: Good one! "Dinnae fash yersel!" I personally prefer "Dinnae worry" (with a good roll of the "r"). :)
-- Kirbo: I don't know whether Ashmore has ulterior motives. Personally, I see an older guy who was presented with an opportunity to hook up with a young pretty thing and he took it.
-- JudyB: "When we open our hearts to love another human being, we are also open to the deepest hurt imaginable." That is so beautiful! Thank you! :) And yes, Sandy is right, there was hugging, face touching, hand holding and tear wiping in the midst of all the pushing, shoving, yelling, crying and reproaching. I watched the scenes several times and the little touches are just superb! Masterful acting by both!
-- Gringo: Cheers for getting back to me on the tie knot question and for sharing that anecdote about change as a quest for excitement vs. custom as a mark of comfort. I'm very intrepid and like to try new things when I'm traveling but at home, I'm a creature of habit. The questions you raised about Humberto are very valid. What does he want to do with all this money he's trying to squeeze out of these people he's playing against each other? As you rightly pointed out, "this old bird has one foot in the grave already." So why all the greed? Shouldn't repent before he meets his maker in, like, 72 hours? I think his addiction to gambling may play a part in his disgusting behavior.
-- Mena: I think your two pesos were fabulous and I wholeheatedly agree with your assessment.
-- Susanlynn: Good one! "Dinnae fash yersel!" I personally prefer "Dinnae worry" (with a good roll of the "r"). :)
-- Kirbo: I don't know whether Ashmore has ulterior motives. Personally, I see an older guy who was presented with an opportunity to hook up with a young pretty thing and he took it.
With all of the yelling, fighting and throwing accusations back and forth and let's not leave out all of the tears, I mean that there was so much action going on last night that I nearly forgot that there was no bruja last night. Thank God for that. We had enough going on without her adding in more. I guess tough that two nights in a row would be too much to ask for and so I'm afraid that we will have to endure a double dose tonight. Oh well.
Still, it's must see tv
the gringo
Still, it's must see tv
the gringo
Permalink posted by : Tuesday, February 9, 2016 at 7:41:00 PM EST
: Tuesday, February 9, 2016 at 7:41:00 PM EST
Eladio looked so hurt and repentant. Truly his worst nightmare came true at a time when he had begun to truly love life and others for the first time. What was so disappointing was to see him fall back on his old standby. LIE, LIE LIE. Oh Eladio, what have you not learned, son.
If there was ever a time when the whole absolute truth would not have done measurably more damage, it was now. If you have dropped an atom bomb on Julia, a couple more hand grenades will not make or break it. Scary as it is, just tell the truth.
If there was ever a time when the whole absolute truth would not have done measurably more damage, it was now. If you have dropped an atom bomb on Julia, a couple more hand grenades will not make or break it. Scary as it is, just tell the truth.
Carlos,
Yes, I would agree that Nina was likely given (por lo menos) unspoken permission to dismiss Miguel. I dislike it when either parent gives permission to the other to disregard and / or mistreat a child in the family. Alternatively, in my experience, insufferable children typically are raised, not born that way. ... Neither likelyhood reflects stellar parenting.
"I've suggested here before that perhaps Nina's way of relating to Miguel is a direct reflection of Arturo's own attitude toward his unwanted son whose inconvenient presence sent the happy train of his life careening off its track. I think it might also be possible that he was simply one of those insufferable, unlikable children."
Yes, I would agree that Nina was likely given (por lo menos) unspoken permission to dismiss Miguel. I dislike it when either parent gives permission to the other to disregard and / or mistreat a child in the family. Alternatively, in my experience, insufferable children typically are raised, not born that way. ... Neither likelyhood reflects stellar parenting.
"I've suggested here before that perhaps Nina's way of relating to Miguel is a direct reflection of Arturo's own attitude toward his unwanted son whose inconvenient presence sent the happy train of his life careening off its track. I think it might also be possible that he was simply one of those insufferable, unlikable children."
Cinderella, you pretty much hit everything.
Thanks for short and to every lying point.
Eladio wants to keep the lie going to protect
All of them. From what praytell? the lies have no purpose but to cover his ass. Franco is
Truly his spawn. And gaby is truly her aunts
Neice. History repeating itself in this family
Of lies.
Thanks for short and to every lying point.
Eladio wants to keep the lie going to protect
All of them. From what praytell? the lies have no purpose but to cover his ass. Franco is
Truly his spawn. And gaby is truly her aunts
Neice. History repeating itself in this family
Of lies.
Permalink posted by : Tuesday, February 9, 2016 at 10:23:00 PM EST
: Tuesday, February 9, 2016 at 10:23:00 PM EST
Carlos, here it is:
Super Bowl Chili
2 lbs ground beef
1 lb ground pork
1.5 lb chopped onions
4-5 garlic cloves peeled and sliced
2 28 oz cans crushed tomatoes
3 tbsp paprika
3 tbsp ground cumin
1 tbsp brown gravy mix
4-6 bay leaves
3 cans Goya beans, drained and rinsed in cold water
Brown first four ingredients in fry pan, drain off excess fat. Transfer to stock pot, add remaining ingredients, cook covered over medium flame, stirring to prevent burning. Cook until almost boiling. Serve with the usual toppings. Add cayenne pepper for heat.
Super Bowl Chili
2 lbs ground beef
1 lb ground pork
1.5 lb chopped onions
4-5 garlic cloves peeled and sliced
2 28 oz cans crushed tomatoes
3 tbsp paprika
3 tbsp ground cumin
1 tbsp brown gravy mix
4-6 bay leaves
3 cans Goya beans, drained and rinsed in cold water
Brown first four ingredients in fry pan, drain off excess fat. Transfer to stock pot, add remaining ingredients, cook covered over medium flame, stirring to prevent burning. Cook until almost boiling. Serve with the usual toppings. Add cayenne pepper for heat.
Assmore knew that Daniela is Arturo's daughter and he wasn't drunk when they met on the way to getting wasted. What they did can't be blamed on not knowing what they were doing.
Hi UA,
Regarding the chil recipe, do you not use any chili powder? I dont know if you forgot to mention that ingrediant or if you purposely not use.
Interesting how chili can vary from state to state. I use all the same ingrediants but use chili powder instead of brown gravy mix.
Thanks for sharing with us at the patio. Remember cowboy commercial and someones asks where hot sauce was made and someone says New York. And everbody yells w Texas twang, "NEW YORK???????"
Leticia
Regarding the chil recipe, do you not use any chili powder? I dont know if you forgot to mention that ingrediant or if you purposely not use.
Interesting how chili can vary from state to state. I use all the same ingrediants but use chili powder instead of brown gravy mix.
Thanks for sharing with us at the patio. Remember cowboy commercial and someones asks where hot sauce was made and someone says New York. And everbody yells w Texas twang, "NEW YORK???????"
Leticia
Permalink posted by : Wednesday, February 10, 2016 at 1:49:00 AM EST
: Wednesday, February 10, 2016 at 1:49:00 AM EST
Thank you Cynderella,
Loved your hilarious recap. Everyone has already mentioned so many of the great lines, you are right that Daniela wants to be madrina to corrupt her nephew. Boy, those were huge huge pills Dani shared with Ashmore, with no water!!!! That gal sure is Montse's replacement for sure in more ways than one. Art is so stressed out already, when he finds out about Ashmore and Dani I hope he doesn't have heart attack. I wouldnt want to be in his shoes for nothing!
Leticia
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Loved your hilarious recap. Everyone has already mentioned so many of the great lines, you are right that Daniela wants to be madrina to corrupt her nephew. Boy, those were huge huge pills Dani shared with Ashmore, with no water!!!! That gal sure is Montse's replacement for sure in more ways than one. Art is so stressed out already, when he finds out about Ashmore and Dani I hope he doesn't have heart attack. I wouldnt want to be in his shoes for nothing!
Leticia
Permalink posted by : Wednesday, February 10, 2016 at 2:03:00 AM EST
: Wednesday, February 10, 2016 at 2:03:00 AM EST
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